Can New Zealand crack the Springbok code? | The Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- The Breakdown discusses the All Blacks' impressive victory over Argentinaand analyses the upcoming challenges the All Blacks will face against South Africa. #breakdown
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Masive respect for the Boks. Has been since our first encounter. There is no bigger challenge in World Rugby. Hope to play on dry ground. Love from NZ.
Why does everyone say the boks are so big when all the teams they play against have bigger scrums?
Should be dry in joburg, but Capetown is a roll of the dice.
@@ianfrost8425 4 world cups pal😉 There's a very good reason why world rugby respects South Africa. Oh & the UFC middleweight champ is a South African too😃 He beat up a 'kiwi' this past week.
@@JohnDoe-iq9bz How did you go at the Olympics?
@@user-eq9jv5uf7dmate the Saffa govt doesn’t have much cash left over to feed into sport like in other countries didnt u know that !
But here in Queensland we won 12 gold and only have a population of 5 million ! How many did NZ get ? 😮😂
Rassie never said that the side he's putting out against the Aussies is a B side. Mils is the only one on this panel who actually gives level-headed, calculated comments.
Wilson and JK are tools
Better to listen to Parsons on Sky Sports NZ. You learn way more
Skills Mils says 'sort of' or 'kind of' in every sentence. not that it matters to be fair.
But it was clearly a b side
More like a c team
JK just hates paying the Bols any compliment. As a Bok supporter, the ABs are always the biggest challenge. They always have at least a 50/50 shot to beat anybody. No SA supporter will ever write off an AB team.
no one stands bok fans, you're the bane of our existence, just be quiet
@@antoneverbright100% agreed.. literally the worst fans 😂
Not worse than the English surely!For me the New Zealand and Australian pundits are almost as bad as English rugby fans 😮
Saying that boks fans can be over confident.
No doubt the All Blacks are the best rugby of all time. They can take the boks any day but we can also take them when we are at our best.
Looking forward to the game!
@@LeMerch first day on the internet? The French fans are one level above an amoeba. Almost useless and vile as ****.
try watching the so-called money man or Mark Keohane as a kiwi and you will understand.
Kirstie and Mills deserve to be canonized as saints for dealing with these two walking head injuries week to week.
JW seems to be on a redemption arc though
JK "I reckon Rassie put it out in the media that is was the B Team", actually in a press conference, Rassie categorically stated the opposite...JK is just a dick.
Exactly. But let's be honest, it was the B team.
As an Irish fan I look forward to this! We are always trying to catch these great two teams with bags of great players
...NZ, know that the new and dynamic SA game is now both brute force coupled with skilled base. Teams now just don't know when we are going to turn which one on or off and that makes this new South African powerhouse a totally unpredictable tsunami.
All Blacks is a quality team. Not as dominant as in the past, but still a quality side. As a Bok, this is still my favorite fixture on the rugby calendar
And history says the ABs are most likely to beat the Boks….😂
Nothing beats this fixture. Like Rassie said, Boks don't wanna loose to 3 teams. NZ, ENG, FRANCE. IRELAND HAS REPLACED AUSTRALIA
@@davidwalker2402Does It? I must have gotten my past 2 Tests wrong then.
@@davidwalker2402Who chocked in the world cup final again?😂
All blacks have 50 players who are all A plus just some have more game time
I've never seen this much depth in SA rugby than in the last couple of years. They are incredible. Having said that the Irish are pretty formidable too. In fact, they are very good. That is the beauty of rugby. Like a wheel. One day you are up and the next day down. As a Springbok supporter, I always hold my breath when playing against the AB. You'll be bloody stupid if you don't.
Net so
As a English supporter, watching these two big beast going at each other will be awesome. SA must start favourites, they look physically strong up front and use that rolling maul to such devastating effect but they also have clinical backs that can finish from anywhere on the park. NZ need to be at 110% to beat SA on home turf but if they can get behind this SA defensive line they stand a chance. Set piece will be crucial for NZ they must hold the scrum and win their lineouts. The ruck will be the deciding factor as SA give a lot of penalties away in this area NZ could use this factor to help pin SA back in their own half. Can't wait to watch the Game good luck to both sides.
Fair comment.
Nothing better than ABs vs Boks.
NZ v Arg is a far better rivalry
I think the ABs or Boks vs England or Ireland is up there too
@@BazBoksYou must be new here.
@@BazBoks lol did you start watching rugby last weekend?
5:27 ……. guys guys
Anyones game lovely to watch because it always is a pinnacle.Sure the whole world will be watching from all four corners.🇿🇦🇿🇦👍😊
Ireland will be number 1 should SA lose just 1 test
@BazBoks we don't care about number 1😂 Ireland can have it. World Cups is what it's all about.
@@BazBokswho cares. Ireland can have that title …until the next WC QF
As a Bok supporter, AB is our biggest rival still. Ireland has come to the party and become the other beast. But AB remains our biggest rival. It will always be unless the AB can't get their MOJO back. In that case Ireland will be the new greatest rival for us. Either way it's an honor to be part of this Springbok era. It always will.
History says ABs will beat the Boks and they played like a team that are capable of beating the Boks…
It is always an honour and a challenge to face the World Champions. Love from NZ.
@@davidwalker2402you are saying the same thing on every comment. Your silly comments won't change the outcome of what will be two awesome tests between two awesome teams.
@@timproome4296 i agree and as they almost always do the ABs will win 🤣 get over yourself …
@@davidwalker2402, that's History , this is a new era , a new beginning, never get ahead of yourself , I think the ABs are still finding their feet , and not enough games under our belt to face the springbok this year , we have to win 4 from 4 just to win the championship , we are not ready for the boks , Faith, I have not , HOPE I HAVE TONS OF , SO GO THE ALL BLACKS .
New Zealand will be in the Boks faces. This promises to be a fantastic game of rugby. Game on!
What's funny is that Klown Kirwan thinks he has South African friends ...
😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Give that man a Bell’s !! 😂😂
Give that man a Bell’s !! 😂😂
The best for me was when Victor Matfield told JK that he will put a photo of him on his punching bag. That was pure gold.
As A South African, I Love The AB's vs Boks. It's An Even Better Well Poised Contested Championship. The AB's Got To Bring Their (A-Game).
❤❤❤
From a Bok supporter point of view, we are never favourites against the ABs and history proves this. As Naas Botha always said, the only thing that matters is what happens in the 80 minutes of the game. All bets, rankings and predictions are off between the 2 when the whistle goes, and it doesn't even matter if it's a home ground advantage or not for the Boks as NZ has the best record in SA.
Like the saying goes, a good team can win consecutive games but a great team can come back from a big loss and that definately sums up the ABs.
Will it be any different under Razor we just don't know yet but experiments are now over, the Boks will put their strongest squad together to face NZ, huge rivalvry and that's not going to change any time soon, the ABs are the Boks biggest rivals.
Well said
Don’t think the ABs will think about it so much history says they will win easily .
@davidwalker2402 It's just that the ABs might still be finding their feet under Razor while the Boks have been able to shuffle players, give new ones game time and adapt to Tony Browns' style while still getting the maximum points in Aus, it's been 33 years since the Boks have won back to back in Australia and at the moment the Boks have lost 3 games in their last 21 or something, 1 to NZ and 2 to Ireland and given some were tier 2 teams the Boks on paper on stats aren't looking too shaby and could give NZ a hard time.
Realistically though when was the last time the Boks had such a chance at winning the championships, the next 2 tests are going to be the real decider because I'm more confident the Boks will put Argentina away and even if they got 1 win each from NZ and Arg, and Aus got a win against Arg, and NZ beat Aus twice, the Boks could still potentially be ahead of NZ and win depending on BPs.
It could all go pear-shaped but let's see.
@@groenrizla2513 Well said
You're right
The WIlson-Kirwan relationship is pretty hard to watch and hear. Time for a change. I'd have someone else than Kirwan he's unnecessarily confrontation without insight
Bok supporter here and always excited for Boks v ABs, always great to chat to Kiwis about our beautiful game as we will always respect each other 👌🇿🇦🇳🇿
AB's were next level in the wet weather. Well done boys. Hoping for 2 dry games here in South Africa😅
It will be bone dry in SA this time
@gomokgabo7028 not in Cape Town though
We offer much more pressure than Los Pumas. We all know Argies are hit and miss at best.
I’m not South African or a kiwi. Completely neutral here. NZ are going to get walked in my opinion. Boks as strong as ever, rush defense, every player makes their 1-1 tackle and hit like a truck. NZ won’t find space in broken play when they have fantastic defense
As a south African I have no such confidence. Most of us are calling 1 test win each in the next 2 matches. Either way… Epic battle ahead!
Yip. 👍 Agreed.
@@JeremydeTolly I say the Boks will win all 4 remaining tests, unless Rassie plays an experimental team against the AB's. Unfortunately he has a knack of doing it, let's hope he doesn't this time around. I was livid when they changed the team after the Mbombela test in 2022. They really dropped the ball there, very disappointing from a Springbok supporter's perspective. Marx should start every big game if fit.
Bet all your money on a Springbok victory. They couldn't possibly lose.
As a rugby fan we can all agree this is the biggest game of season. Looking forward to it!
NZ vs SA the pinnacle of rugby. The games can go either way. from my South African perspective I will clearly support my boys for a win, but the Kiwis have every right to feel confident too. Neither side will be taking this test lightly. It is going to be absolutely brilliant rugby rugby no matter the result. Cannot wait.
Kia Ora from Mexico. A friendly reminder, the ALL BLACKS have won the last 4 out of the last 5 encounters with the Boks in Johannesburg. The game the Boks won in 2014 was by a margin of 2 pts. As the great man Nelson Mandela once said ¨ A winner is a dreamer who never gives up ¨
'Boks win the ones that count. Since the AB have been losing I haven't seen any vids from you
In the wise words of another famous South African “Let’s f@£< them up physically”
R. Erasmus
By same token, we shouldve lost the first game against Aussies then, but wait, we didnt, did we?
hold up the Boks won the last two out of two matches they played against the all blacks I think we'll be alright.
Thats a fair statement mate, the ABs have a few over us in our backyard. May the best team win!
South African here, super nervous about this test match. The ABs will be out for blood since the WC.
Tight five is absolutely crucial. Scott Barrett and hopefully Tuipulotu returning with Tamaiti Williams starting may give the All Blacks parity physically which will make an epic game.
The All Blacks front row are much bigger and heavier than the Boks' front row, so you def have an advantage there. That said, go Bokke!
Ireland fan here ..I like that kick over the top and chase...you should use that in SA against the rush defence..it worked against us in the semis.
Haha teaming up to defeat the Boks.
The Boks are a great side with humility pity the fans aren't the same.
@@brianmurray6287 As if the Irish are so humble... 🙄
@@Alias-gy3tz I know we are better than everyone else...just kidding.
Atleast the all blacks will have a chance to play to a full Stadium . Say what you want about South africa. WE support our team .
Full stadium or not don't matter! We still support our team too bro! With little or alot! AB's up!🖤💪🤪
Crowds give energy. The facto that your stadiums aren't jam packed says a lot about your belief in ABs ability
Crowds also don't determine how the players play. You can win or lose if it's jam packed. Stop trying to compare crowds. It don't mean shit!
'Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.' - Mike Tyson.
'Everybody has a plan until they get tackled by a Springbok.' - Myself
@@mthabitX This is no time to be humble....!! Remember the AB when they were favoured by the IRB. Not that the Springboks are favoured
They weren’t very impressive in the second test against Ireland in the first 20 minutes it was the Irish who absolutely flattened the boks…😂
Everyone has a plan until you get tackled by PSDT
@@mthabitX My point was made to the OP not you.
Bro comparing himself to Tyson. Must be a saffa.
🦌🦓🦁🦬🦒As a South African and long time Bok fan - Rugby exists at the level it does today because of NZ v Boks - Nothing compares
Well done Argentina 🇦🇷 for a great performance in New Zealand.
Since the start of the SH season, both sides have shown us that they can play some incredible rugby, but they also have shown that they can be beaten.
The Boks probably has the edge when quality of opposition is taken into account. However, that adds to the pressure - they are expected to win both tests and that is always a huge ask against the All Blacks.
I think the Boks are going to be too strong at altitude, but the test in Cape Town is going to be dicey. Expect carnage.
Hulle weet nie wat ons weet nie 🐐 🏆🇿🇦
JK is a poor reflection on New Zealand, I'd be ashamed if he represented my country
Always loved the style of play of the ABs for years, I think the best chance they will have is to capitalise of broken play and running rugby, The boks are on a different level at the moment to be honest
One of the best games of Rugby is coming!!
It's tough for New Zealanders to be in second maybe third spot, with Ireland and South Africa seemingly stronger. Of course any of the top teams can beat the other on any given day. What would concern me, if I was a Kiwi is that rugby in NZ is declining due to Mothers not wanting their little precious hurt. Growth in rugby is doing fine in Ireland and exploding in South Africa. Always strong in the Afrikaans community but going APE in the Cape Coloured and Black community. The only long term future hope for NZ is that more of the Māori and Islander immigrants/descendants keep playing rugby. They are still a tough people.
As South African supporters, we never underestimate or disrespect the All Blacks.
Springboks vs All Black's always amazing to witness. Real rugby.
JK thinking that the Boks under pressure is a bad thing. There is a reason they lose games they should win and then Win in World Cups when it matters the most and the pressure is at its highest. My worry is the Boks don't feel enough pressure to really put out their best performance. Their biggest issue has been complacency.
Very true! They need to sort that out.
0:58 In South Africa whe will call you " lekker groot bek". You don't know, what we know.
I think doos would fit as well lol
@@alistairclifton1286lol😂
I'd give SA a 4 out of 10, didnt put 50 on Aus even once. NZ would have, that's for sure. We're still not as good as these pundits say
We never played this style of Rugby, NZ has always been up as the scoring machine, we play to dominate physically and crush the opposition not score points as much as we can, sure it looks good to see so many points on the board, but a W either way is a W. what is needed is to win when it matters, who cares if it's by 1 point like the world cup or 30 points.
It's all about who's the toughest. Always has been, always will be. AB legacy 💪🏾. Both teams have talent. Just the size of the Mongrel in the kuri. What a reputation to defend 🇳🇿
can't get any better than the boks and all blacks clash big respect to the spring Boks
If you want to show respect, get the name right, it is the SPRINGBOKS, one word, surely you know that by now? I'm also looking forward to the games against the All BlaNks.
Springboks are the best, give credit where it's due. All Blacks unfortunately no longer has that Xfactor
Dream on boy we will show you
@@Charlie-it1kk Like you did in the last two tests?
@@Alias-gy3tzon shit!😂
JK must stop the cap. super interested in the upcoming match up
JK is living proof of how head injuries were not checked during his playing career 🤣🤣🤣
I blame the Bomb Squad 😂😂
Watching Boks/ Wellabies Brisbane game. Boks played a warmup match as it appeared .ABa / Argies Wgton game was far below the potential . It sent wrong signals . Then Eden Park totally different . However ABs must watch out the Boks . Raisi s formation plan is very much fwd focused . So to counter them ABs must b watchful . More numbers in front means extreme pressure on opposite Team. . That also means holding territory in a positive way . ABs have clustering problem. ABs must play open field game by putting numbers in front which gives huge leverage IF they play with accuracy offloads attack hard ie don't let Boks possession . When U look at Boks games they r focused planned fast n above all passion ..ABs don't have these .at comparative level . U don't play Mohammed Ali stylu BUT Tyson style . Boks try drop kicks they r good at distance penalty kicks n with accuracy . A BB s must not forget they r playing for Championship n not any Charity So discipline breakdowns throws scrum time accurate offloads all matter a lot . ABs must maintain speed as their weapon of mass destruction . It takes ABs a while to wakeup in this Supersonic age . That's concerning .
Boks r a very good side but no one can say they will always win only if ABs can keep their wits together n take every opportunity to add points on the board n simply not ONLY relying n hoping for TRY .
BEST OF LUCK I against BOKS . May God Give Guidance .
Cant wait for you chaps to get to RSA and play our boks. No better game in sport than an ABs boks game.
I said it after the AB's shock loss, and I'll say it again : never write off an AB team. BUT. I'm a great believer in Rassie and the systems he's build.
The AB's are not prepared for what the Boks are gonna bring... In your head!!! In your heaaaaaad!!! 👍😎
Dink weer arrogance
Incredible that none of them actually answered the opening question. Just recited generic comments on the last AB game. Lots of rugby media people do this. I don’t know why.
As an All Black fan,springboks have the edge over us !
I love how the Boks backline is always either ignored or discredited. Have you seen our backline at the moment? 😂 The All Blacks can’t just rock up and think they have a superior skill set and backline personal. Don’t be delusional.
As a "veteran" Bok supporter we all know that on the day a match between the AB's vs Boks could go either way.
Much respect to the All Blacks from South Africa
World Cup Final Rematch!!!
Can’t wait!!!!
Nope, there is no such thing as a "World Cup Final Rematch" unless it is a world cup final. Sorry to burst your bubble. In order for that to happen, both teams need to make it to the next World Cup Final. The AB's had their "World Cup Final Rematch" against the Springboks, in 2023, they lost, again.
Mils is the only not biased one on the panel...so good to hear the other 2 clowns holding on to their pride rather than complimenting the boks
We don't need their compliments.
Okay i heard you guys, but Springboks has just won the first test match 🎉🎉🎉🇿🇦🇿🇦❤❤😅
Boks apply a different type of pressure, including scoreboard, and they won't miss kicks for goal for fun or fold in any area of the game. AB's first phase platform and error rate too high to stop boks. ABs defence is also not tight enough.
It’s awesome to watch pundits. I usually watch my pundits as a Bok fan. Gotta say, NZ are soooo serious.
Yes, and soooooo boring.
That admission by Sir John Kirwan.😂 Why does it feel like he's subliminally jinxing it, crossing fingers and hoping that we lose against their 'work in progress ' side?
Blah blah, what a bunch of biased presenters. They never give credit to anyone else!
It’s a positive propaganda show for the casual New Zealander, not really intended for an international audience ,
The more educated rugby fan in nz doesn’t really rate this show either.
Good to know, Mils is a gent, those other 2 old farts are painful @camwells9726
These guys don’t do any research on any teams really. JKs constantly getting facts wrong.
Your views & comments help the algorithm & keep this show alive, if you dont enjoy it, the sensible think would be to not watch it.
Mils is algood but the other 2 🤦
John Kirwan how you played for the All Blacks in 1985/87 was old style stuff compared today. Plus I for one am flipping glad that Scott Robertson is the coach and not you. Keep your criticism to yourself.
As a Crusaders Fan I would have Will Jordan at fullback, here's my AB's Team 1st Test v Springboks.
15 Will Jordan
14 Rieko Iaone
13 Anton Linert-Brown
12 Jordie Barrett
11 Mark Telea
10 Beaudy Barrett
9 Cortez Ratima
8 Ardie Savea
7 Sam Cane
6 Ethan Blackadder
5 Sam Darry
4 Scott Barrett C
3 Tyrone Lomax
2 Codie Taylor
1 Williams
16 Amo Aumua
17 Fletcher Newell
18 Tu'ungafasi
19 Tupou Vai 'I
20 Dalton Papa'ili
21 Perenara
22 David Havili/Billy Proctor
23 Damien Mckenzie
South Africa could absolutely handle us. Don’t see us winning two in a row. If we can win won and be close that’d be ok for a new teams but I’d take two competitive losses tbh.
All I can say is im excited. Go All Blacks
No way in hell would we in South Africa 🇿🇦 ever disrespect the AB, EVER!! I don't care how many losses the AB's could be coming from,we will always,always show respect to the great AB's Team.
Next 2 weeks I expect real fireworks from the AB's coz they're gonna bring it on hard unto the BOKS.
It sure promises to be a killer and brutal 2 games of Rugby.
Respect to the AB's indeed but BOKKE BEFOK FOR LIFE🇿🇦🙌🏿
I have a feeling this razor guy gona be New Zealand's "Rassie"
Guys you are over thinking this , just go play your best game plan , the boks are waiting for you - Game on , 2 great close games on the way !
I think the All Blacks will win by 20+ in game 2 against the boks.
First game might be close though.
As a Bok supporter I am concerned about how SA's ex players and others are talking as if the Boks cannot be won! Sorry, any team can loose. They lost against Ireland who were better on the day. n The AB's never lie down. They were bomb shocked by Argentina who anyway can win any team when they want. Therefore the Boks must be humble and make sure they stay focused.
Can not be "beaten". That is not true, they do not claim that.
How times have changed , JK actually conceded that the Boks are favourites to win , don't think I've heard that from him before !
What a test match coming up.
As a SAFFA, AB’s always enter next level when they play us. Boks to win the 1st, AB to win in Cape Town
Boks to win both.
All Black Team: Hey Bokke!!!! 👹😡👹😡
Springboks: You could not live with your own failure, where did that bring you..back to me.😂
😂😂😂😂😂 yes man
Im so sorry, i didn't even know that jon kirwan was nearly blind, that poor man has the hubble telescope on his face just to even see.
All the pleasure is on us yes sir, we respect that
Havent a chance against those giants, when they maul near our line they will score everytime
JK cannot help himself. No matter how much he ‘trys’ to compliment the Boks, he throws in a backhand somewhere.
Why no comment on the last 38 min of no scoring from the AB’s. Actually tied the second half 7/7.
It doesnt matter how good or bad nz or sa are
This rivalry is the greatest and both team's are capably of winning
It's not the coach now its the player's who make decisions
3 point kicks are important but i hope tries reign in this contest
JK must have loved the eyesore that was the spectacle of uncontested scrums in the SA-Aus game.
Lekker JK, challenge accepted 😂🍻
That's normal for South Africans, we are born with pressure.
ABs struggle when put under pressure, SA will definitely put them under pressure so let’s see but Boks should take this 2 games
as a bok fan i think nzl will take this. i think Boks are currently a little better, but psychologically, ABs will be fired after the final loss. Boks are favourites, and IMO this one one of the biggest predictors for our success.
His comment, the all blacks game plan is skill based 🤣🤣
I'm a proud South African.. proud of the Bokke!! Aphelele Fasi, Makazole Mampipi, Lukhanyo Am, Siya Kolisi, Ox Nche, Bongi Mbonambi, Sacha Mngomezulu, etc !!! Go Bokke!
Lol as a South African the only team we don't assume we will win against is the AB! ❤
I can sense the trepidation in touring Sourh Africa in all three men around the table 😂.
OG Schoolboy player here from Sydney. We both as Intl Teams need to go back to the broken play style. Get the backs doing more skills not for set plays but random or capitalizing plays.
ABs more skilled than the Bokke? Yes 20 years ago, but not currently. But keep dreaming.
Who’s the Beastie boy sitting to the right?
Now for,some real rugby 🇿🇦
Anyone else wanna see Beauden at 10, and Jordan at 15?
JK is a proper toss. I love watching him cope ❤
Rassie never called it a B side.
so we dont have ball skills? Springbok on another level.. John is smoking something here.
Well said Sam Kane!!
I respect the All Blacks. I witnessed what they did the last time they were here. They ruined a lot of After Parties, Concerts and post match festivities. 😅😅😅 South Africans who disregard the All Blacks don't know anything about that team.
'Can NZ crack the Springbok code?'
More than anyone else
sorry, the code is encrypted. 😉
JK is clearly struggling to keep it together.
Can’t see us beating SA in SA at the moment. Really need to find a big,hard nosed,dominant blindside ASAP.
The various coaches seem to have lost faith in Finau,even though the confused game-plan against England was probably the main reason for his quiet games. Needs more time
I think it’s going to be closer than you think , we are doing new things and playing with a different approach and we are doing it well, but not perfected at all, you can put pressure on us and capitalize on our mistakes