Pressing the Limits of a Ford 557 by Adding Nitrous - Engine Power S2, E22
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2019
- Pat and Mike button up their 557" Ford stroker and add a healthy dose of nitrous on the dyno.
PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Accel: Spark Plug Wires, Extreme 9000 Ceramic, Spiral Core, 8mm, Black, 45 Degree Boots, Ford, Mercury, V8, Set
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ARP: Assembly Lubricant, for Engine Assembly and Fastener Installation, Ultra Torque, 1 Pint, Each
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ARP: Cylinder Head Studs, Pro Series, 12-Point Head, Ford, 429-460, with Aftermarket/Stock Heads, Kit
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Cometic Gasket, Inc.: Head Gasket, MLS, 4.500 in. Bore, .027 in. Compressed Thickness, Ford, 429, 460, Each
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Comp Cams: Lifters, Mechanical Roller, Vertical Link Bar, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, Set of 16
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Dupli-Color: Duplicolor Tire Paint is designed to spray on freshly cleaned tires. The coating chemically binds itself to the tires to maintain shine longer and prevent fading
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Dupli-Color: Paint, Metalcast, Anodized Color, Enamel, Gloss, Blue Anodized, 11 oz., Aerosol, Each
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Holley: Carburetor, 4 Barrel, Holley Gen 3 Ultra Dominator, Gasoline - Dual Inlet, 1,150 CFM, Tumble Polished, Each
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Meziere Enterprises,Inc.: Water Pump, Electric, 55 gpm, Billet Aluminum, Black Anodized, Ford, Lincoln, Mercury, 429/460, V8, Each
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MSD Ignition: Distributor, Pro-Billet, Small Base, Magnetic Trigger, Mechanical Advance, Ford, 351C, 351M, 400, 429, 460
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NOS: Nitrous Oxide System, Big Shot, Wet, 190-300 hp, 10 lb. Bottle, Blue, Dominator 4500, 4-Barrel, Kit
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Trick Flow Specialties: Cylinder Head, PowerPort 325, CNC Comp Ported, Assy, 78cc CNC Chambers, Ford 429/460, Each
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Trick Flow Specialties: Intake Manifold, R-Series, Aluminum, Single Quad, High Rise, Dominator Flange, Fits Ford 429/460 Heads, Each
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Trick Flow Specialties: Rocker Arms, 1.73 Ratio, 7/16 in. Stud, Full Roller Design, Aluminum, Ford 351C, 351M/400, and 429/460, Set 16
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Trick Flow Specialties: Valve Covers, Tall Height, Cast Aluminum, Natural Finish, Ford 429/460, Pair
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National Muscle Car Association: NMCA Drag Racing Series
Pace Performance: FITECH - 4 Injector System for up to 600HP
Pennzoil: Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, Full Synthetic Motor Oil with PurePlus Technology, 10-30, 5qt
School of Automotive Machinists: School of Automotive Machinists in Houston, TX
The Industrial Depot: Fasteners, Hardware, Shop Supplies - Авто та транспорт
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@Justin Henry Yeah I totally agree.
hell yeah thanks guys! would love to see more fords also!
Or 400M
@@jorjorbinks89 😂😂😂
Ford guys r so whiny😭😭😭
I'm 55 and it blows me away that over 1000 hp is achieved with relatively no exotic parts. That would only have been a dream when I was young.
Don’t hate, soon it will be the internal combustion guys vs EV guys. The k24 is a killer engine but you know you’re stirring up a hornets nest saying it casually in the comments section of a big block build with nitrous. Everybody has their preferences, don’t create reasons to exclude/hate. Be stoked that there are people motivated to continue pushing this awesome hobby further everyday. Get out there and work on that project!
@@datraktorman69 but it only last a few passes at the track before "BOOM"🤣
@@datraktorman69 facts! I would never build a engine with cheap Ebay parts. I've known way too many people that engine went BOOM with that Chinese junk. You'll get your 1,000 rwhp but it won't last long🤣
@@datraktorman69 yeah, I had someone build a reliable Rat that will give me many years of fun. So go ahead and save your pennies for a Ebay turbo.
That's a no 💩er. It used to be a real job getting just over one horse per cube. Now that's about where you start if you're going to build a real hot rod. This is the stuff that only dreams and science fiction were made of.
Ford all the way babay!
LMAO you don't any better Chevrolet Muscle is where it's at
@@jeremystrickland7767 always a hater from Chevrolet. Never with facts. You need to watch more unbiased shows. There is a reason you see more old Ford's running. And listen to the 1st part of this build.
Hell yeah! Blue oval all the way.The factory 385 BBF can be maxed out all the way to 598ci, BBC stops at 572. Or Look at the modern V8s, Ford makes more hp with the 5.0 coyote than GM does with a 6.2 ls3.
I like ford and Chevy the same but mopar is my favirote
@@bigboreracing356 hey man whatever you gotta tell yourself to make you feel better so you do you beu
The sound of a cammed big-block, be it Ford, Mopar or GM, has a magic all its own!!
Something a ricer will never understand...
rod928s4 at the end of the day they're all just air pumps. Rarely do they sound different. Unless you have a wacky firing order.
Bill Chaput lmao 😂
No matter that make! Their is no replacement for displacement!!!!!
Truth be told !
I’m not a ford person put this engine is a straight up MONSTER for being straight pump gas love it
Ford "385" family engines can be absolute track terrors.. hell, Bigfoot ran on of these behemoths on alcohol since it's construction..
I’m a Chevy guy myself, but I’m not going to deny these numbers. That’s one helluva engine.
Straight pump gas. ....with a ton of nitrous 😂
ACPHOTO you’re right. I’m a balls before steroids guy, but that’s still impressive.
1100hp made with 93 octane is insane regardless. Always a hater. Acphoto is an idiot
The 12 down votes are teary eyed bowtie and Mopar fans 😂
Probably, realizing that you can get that power from something that isn't a BBC.
Hahaha. Nah man. Downvotes aren't from Mopar fans like me. I just love all things go fast and gas powered.
@@dirtymax6.649 right😂notice how afraid they were to even do pulls on the dyno😂😂😂
@@bigboreracing356 quit ya crying .🤣
@@dirtymax6.649 Right on
"Don't worry, your mopar build is coming soon".
We just need for the second mortgage on the shop to clear, and to sell some tools.
If you've seen Andy f & his 470 ci mopar, over 750 hp n/a for less than 13k
Yeah, no kidding
Mopar has some monsters in the engine department, but by God they're not cheap
30k later
I'd like to see a 400 Cleveland build. You don't see those much anymore but can make big torque
I'll go out on a limb and say that I'd be willing to throw this in my 65 fastback... for science of course😀
Damn I love that Ford big block! 1,000+ Horsepower on pump gas is freaking awesome!
@@bigboreracing356 how sad, another fool blinded by brand loyalty. Doesn't matter in the end, a boosted LS, coyote, or new hemi is far more efficient than any big block from decades past.
Hey guys do you know street racer has a 468 Chevy? It'll out run all the fords ever made. He will tell you if you don't believe me. Jon Kasse is apparently afraid of street racers 468 too. Here I thought Kasse made some bad ass bbf's but they are no match for street racer. The guy is a legend just ask him about his 468.
Nope this one is good enough. You think you can remind everyone how much better your 468 is than this or any other BBF?
STREET RACER “you’re”
STREET RACER swing and a miss, just like with the rest of your comments ;-)
Thank you for the BB Ford build. Talk about low RPM torque and HP this is a simple and effective combo. Great work.
Chevy 572, dual quads, tunnel ram, 750 h.p., ford 557, single quad, 750 h.p., how about the same tunnel ram and carbs as the chevy?, oh yea, they didn't have one " laying around the shop".
STREET RACER it’s been proven by David friburger that single carbs are far superior to dual
chevy has always needed bigger engines to compare to ford.
@@thomasdavis3998 This build seems to suggest otherwise, the BBC made 4 less HP with only 15 more cubic inches. Its a solid comparable build.
They both make good engines, and are both capable of the same power levels.
STREET RACER call up Jon Kaase and tell him that.
@@bigboreracing356 oh yeah theres only two kinds of junkolets the ones that's been out run by a FORD and the ones that's gonna get out run by a FORD .
Do Not bottom your head studs in the block like these guys did with a impact tool. It states in the ARP instructions to put them in hand tight only. With heat expansion you can damage your block or stud threads.
On the engines I build I measure the thread depth then ensure that my studs go in far enough and aren’t being held up by a tight thread burr.
I personally leave them a 1/4 loose and have had no issues with that in 30 plus years of building the specific engines I build.
I love this. 1K hp and 5500 rpm. That is crazy.
The hug makes me know they care!!!!🤘🏻
Love to see what that would do with the John Kaase Boss Nine heads.
Add 100HP at a minimum & prolly 150-200 TBH
Whenever you see the words, "nitros & BIG block" in the same sentence, you know you're fix'n to be entertained!
This is a great combination that can be built for under 10k and could be in a daily driver.
That's just what my Blue oval BLOOD pressure needed 👍👍❤it
Man that 1100 HP 557 Ford Big Block is ready to move that 4,000 pound 72 Mercury Marquis.
Or a 73 Gran Torino Sport..🤔
@@otsenres1636 Right or even move an old school F100 with ease or can easily move a Ranchero.
Stop buying heavy cars.
@@dj4monie LOL!!!!!!!!! Put that engine into a Foxbody Mustang or a Foxbody Fairmont or even swap it into old Fairlane or Comet and it'll demolish anything you drive mate.
@@CJColvin I've got a 521 in a 89 coupe now. Ripped the trailing arms out of the mounts on the rearend. Had to back half it.
Such a great channel!!! Really love everything you all put out. Especially when it's something I could dream of putting in my 68' Cougar.
Off the chart. Love it
Amazing build! Congrats Pat and Mike. Thanks for sharing! Cheers from Motown.
Those head studs look like telephone poles.
14O ft lbs yikes🤯💪That's more torque than most old telephone poles can handle lol
Even though I'm a GM fanboi I enjoyed this build the most from all of the ones I have watched.
Love those big block Ford's!
FE next please
Any car guy/women will cherish all old, classic motors!
gets my blue blood flowing, awesome motor
If that school offered a summer course I would love to go. Even if it’s just one subject like engine building or blue printing.
Me as well
I don't think you'd get that far , maybe the basics first.
Brah. Thats y theres UA-cam. I learned how to build my engine on UA-cam.
@@boosted_2j how if it takes years of experience. So how did you build a engine from watching UA-cam.
@@boosted_2j it's like saying I'm a doctor now because I watched UA-cam. Ok sheep
Those horsepower and torque numbers were awesome, loved it.
You guys certainly filled the whole left by Engine Masters, nice work
1119 Ft. Lbs. of Torque!! What's gonna beat that!
Spark bolts, I just love this! Never to old to hear new things....
This is awesome. Been a Ford fan for years
Very impressive Ford 460 build. Same fuel I use in my Pontiac build, soon to install 340 CFM ported heads
About time we see some Ford engines. Great job guys. I have a couple friends who run BBF's and they do very well at the track. To many people ask if they are the other brand. These video's are clear on the potential of these amazing motors. Do you see a Godzilla in your future?
That's impressive you guys get some serious HP out of your engine builds. 👍👌
Great episode guys, keep it up🙂
That big block is getting into powerstroke territory. Get- R -Done
Very VERY IMPRESSIVE #s Guy's from a originally a 460 BBF! That's nice to see especially holding that levels of power on pump gas! Very nice build!
Oh very nice set up,,you guys really know ur stuff//respect for that..
Mikes reaction is awesome!
Those are some gnarly looking runners
That video actually gave me goosebumps!!! What a build guys..
great job guys looks like a good combo
That thing has me drooling. I can see this thing in a 69 mustang.
Nice drag times, but in my opinion I prefer all aluminum low sitting small block v8s or even a twin turbo v6. a lower geared final drive stiff roll bars and fat tires
I want this thing in my f350
I was just thinking “what would I put this in, would it fit in my Falcon”.
@@falconpowerful2362 it would fit in your falcon but you would need a stiffer suspension all around and the car would need lowered, much of that powe could be wasted as the falcon on very light and would have a heck of a time transferring power to the ground, the wheels would constantly spin, and the massively offset weight distribution would make the car very unstable and unsafe, it's like putting a putting a rocket engine on a tree leaf.
Happy to see them happy
Why was the timing like tucked in his waist. Y’all are hilarious😂😂😂
Nice build for sure!
That's great power on a budget.
I'm still blown away on the Kaase 1100hp na bbf. I'll put that in my unicorn.
Wow! Thats Insane. Let me just bring you my Whole Car.
I was wondering if you could see how much power you can get from a 300 straight 6 Ford just gas and blower
Go compare this to that 572 Chevy they built... You'll find the Ford more than held it's own.
Them junkolet crybabies are like liberals they are terrified of of the All Mighty Ford .
My Chevy is so fast and strong it'll out run and out pull anything. My Chevy helps me pick up so many cousins st family reunions. I hate fords cause my uncle dad said they are junk.
Yeah street racer I mean my uncle and your uncle are the same guy that's why we hate fords and chevys are the best. I can't wait to see you at the family reunion this summer we are gonna pick up so many cousins. With are big block chevys. They are so much better than anything. I say we go watch every Ford video on you tube. And then comment how much better chevys are. That'll show them. After that we will swap sisters and Copenhagen. Oh man it's gonna be a epic Christmas. Just make sure everyone knows that our chevys are faster than fords in the meantime.
Fords suck so bad. Just ask street racer if you don't believe me. I mean jeez it had lees cubic inches than the 572 Chevy and only made 4 more hp. What a junket right street racer. Let's get are chevys out and show these Ford guys how it's done.
street racer you have a 468 too? Man my 468 Chevy makes 1700hp on 91 octane. It's all motor no nitruous or turbos. Fords are such garbage though right. I mean my 572 big block Chevy makes 3000hp on 93 octane and has all stock internals. I'd like to see a ford do that. Man I can wait till our family reunion cuz. We are gonna tear up our cousins like Chevys tear up Fords.
Kinda wild how 700hp used to take a big block with lots of cam and heads but now we have LS and Coyote motors making that with bolt on parts and cams and maybe head work.
Even more interesting is how much power you can get from the OE's these days. I remember watching an interview Jay Leno did where he mentioned buying his Viper. Dealer assured him you'll never see a car with this much HP from the factory again. Yeah times have changed, and I like it!
@@sparkplug1018 Totally agreeing. Makes me wonder how long big thumping cams in a large displacement V8 will stick around. I love them, don't get me wrong but I feel like carbed engines are coming to an end now that we have standalone engine management that's more efficient and equally priced to a good carb nowadays. Heck, even 5-6 cylinders are making north of 500 now.
Bob Sagget I think when EFI gets to be on even grounds with a carb setup for the entire package it will happen. And we’re getting there.
@@sparkplug1018 more or less I agree. I've seen large cfm carbs going for 3-900 bucks and most don't really understand tuning them and don't want to risk spending 5 hours changing jets, adjusting timing and then blowing it up because it's wrong. With things like megasquirt you can run efi off of basically any engine from 4 to 8 cylinders for about 3-400 bucks and have someone data log and tune remotely.
@@alpha2gproject783 If the person can learn the system MS is a great deal. Im thinking more of an out of the box system though. Figure a 1000+ cfm carb, single plain intake and distributor will set you back 1000-1200 or so. I think thats the mark to hit, when an out of the box system (intake, TB, ECU, dist, wiring and fuel pump, etc) can match or beat that, then yeah carbs are done for good.
Figure with how popular LS swaps have become people are becoming much more comfortable with it, so its probably not to far off id imagine.
Fins helping with aero. I got a good chuckle outta that
The Trick Flow 325 Power Port heads are very nice pieces, but for this size of displacement, I think they are a bit on the small side. This combo with some P-51 heads will pull over 800 horses on motor alone, and very likely be over 1100 on the bottle.
And with the new SR-71 heads, I think power would be substantially more still.
Very impressive numbers!!!!
Look at those HEAD STUDS!!! HOLY HELL
Sweet build
Ford 460 jazzed up makes a hell of a lot of power. Similar head design/layout to its little brother Cleveland
Loviong your videos your my new Engine-masters! 😁👍
Wow what a great build
LOL, I recall watching that twin turbo GTO run at Famoso 10+ years ago. It was actually the first twin turbo V8 race car I had ever seen race in person.
I had a 69 Lincoln mk lll and it had a 460 and it was a good highway speeder. But nothing like that!
And a magic carpet ride. Better than many. Newer cars.
God damnnnnn that out performed my expectations and I'm a big ford guy that's the most power I think you guys ever made in the dyno room! Nice freakin work
Damn the gearhead academy is close, I need to get on that
AWESOME NUMBERS!!! That would be a perfect engine for my Mustang!! ;D Like they say, "There's no RE-placement for DIS-placement"!!
Oh sounds bit will,but I really like the blue valve covers ,,looks great next to the nice silver heads ,,yea great set up ,,oh love nos too
Love to have this engine in my ford xa coupe, even without the nitrous
It would be nice to get the parts list for this.
Pat without pens, a milestone!
Nice job!
This thing is a monster. I just want this in a rusty old fairmont so bad lol.
Best big block Ford ever made
Those heads intake and exhaust ports was same as a 351 Cleveland 4V. Canted like Cleveland's too.
Nothing beats that design.
would be nice to see an engine that big run thru 2 1/4" headers
That is an absolute unit!!!
looks extremely similar to my 460 build
Ford Engines are so awesome 😎
good thick walls between cylinders!
I need to swop out the 300 IL in my pickup for something like that big monster and make a monster truck out of my F150 4X4 😉👍
Jerry Hayden I have big plans on swapping my 302 in my 85 for a 460 :))
Awesome...... Hell yeah buddy......... Greetings from india🇮🇳🤠🤠🤩🤩🤘🏻🙌
Dammit boy! 754 NA fresh off the stand...wow! I would LOVE to drop that thing into an early 90s Ford Lightning with a 6 speed manual. It'd be even better in a mid 90s Ranger. You'd have to cut the firewall and lose the inner fenders, but it can happen with enough determination. I've seen people dropping LSs into Rangers.
Great job, what was the fuel pressure & nitrous pressure on the nitrous system?
i regret having overlooked this engine platform for all these years.
Should see what forged and turbo mega squirt will do.. whoo.. 2k hp
@@bigboreracing356 it was a truck engine.. built to pull and move heavy trucks.. albeit not very fast
Only thing I would use for toeing is a 468 Chevy right street racer. They are so much more powerful and reliable than a ford. Let's post it all over Facebook so everyone can be impressed with the 468 Chevy
Is that distributor locked at one timing setting? Moving the whole distributor moves the entire graph. When they move it to 19 base, is it all 19?
spark bolts, bump sticks, what next pistons getting changed to flame actuators?
I like how they made the build with somewhat of an actual home builders budget. Not punching MAJOR name brands for oil, ignition, filters, etc. with a price point. The MAJOR guys I’m sure make great products, but people that have already spent a ton for their toy don’t necessarily need to spend a ton right off the bat for everything.
Hey Mike and Pat, did either of you know that the foot in foot pounds never changes? It should be foot pounds because of how torque is measured. At the time it was first used, which was possibly in the late 1800, the dominant beast of burden was the horse. They had a contraption that allowed an animal or engine to lift a weight. At one end of a thick rod was another one rod that was a foot in length. This was elevated from the ground. At the end of that was possibly a chain that would be attached to the weight. Do either of you know what a yoke is for an animal? It's what goes around the neck of the animal. It would be a different arrangement for an engine or an electric motor. That horizontal bar possibly had two or more bearing, which could be placed in what could be a framing for a swing. When that horse was attached to those straps and started moving forward, it would twist the horizontal tube and will additionally twist the one foot rod at the other end of it. This would allow the weight to come off the ground. That weight will determine how much twist or torque that animal had. How would they be doing that with an engine? Most of them had standard transmissions. They wouldn't use it, though. They would use the clutch instead. What would it be attached to? A flange that would act as the friction disk of the clutch. That flange would be bolted to the other flange, which would be at one end of the horizontal tube, which would have tge one foot rod at the other end of it, with the chain attached to it for the weight. That's how they, at that time, determine how much torque or twist that engine had. As you exceedingly well know, people use a dynamometer to test for horsepower and torque. Don't ask me, don't know that answer. Perhaps you could ask Google that question. It would possibly have an answer for that question. That's the reason why it should be called foot pounds of torque instead of pounds feet. No, that foot will never change.
These are way better motors than my old FE.
This makes me want to be a auto mechanic so badd this my dream job
This has me itching to build a bbf my question is what bottle pressure was maintained during the pulls
Keep that set-up and add twin turbo
Wow.. big numbers baby!! Wooo
Just noticed you put carb spacer on upside down. Lol thanks
I would love to see what you can make with pump gas on this motor if you give it some boost like a supercharger, or even better, twin turbos
I'm running a 460 BBF in my 65 Comet. Bored only 30 over. 1000 cfm Holley, pump gas. cam, Cobra Jet Alum heads. Never dyno's but estimate about 575 hp. What would you estimate the hp would be with Nitros, which I have no experience with. Thanks, really like your work.
wow guys, this is a killer!
Insanely clever!
Looks good. But compared to S6 E5 when you went to JKR a little low on power. John made 1100hp with no power adders. But still love the video
My favorite part is where he talked over the engine noise when the nitrous hit. Such an awesome sound he talked about, and then wouldn’t shut up.
750 h.p. with a single carb, pump gas and a streetable cam and cylinder heads - a number race engines made not so many years ago. 1000 h.p. still just as streetable, still on pump gas puts it amongst some strong street engines - no matter how common the magazines make it sound, how many do you actually see?
More cylinder head, more camshaft, more carburetor and 1300 to 1400 (on the bottle) isn't out of the question.
Now THAT'S one wicked street package.
I wouldn't call it a reliable street package but definately a street package. Only thing that I would change is run a hydraulic roller cam to make it more maitence free.
@@sandchar
This particular build - I say it's reliable - you could drive a car with this engine in it every day without a breakdown, in fact rollers don't have failure issues when they don't sit - the roller axles stay lubricated - and they would be the weak point, that's as reliable as any high output engine gets. You don't get stock engine reliability once you start making modifications.
If setting valve lash occasionally is what you're getting at, both flat tappet and roller solids go a lot more miles without adjustment than most people realize.
I ran flat tappet solids in my street/weekend race cars (at that time it was one car for everything) for about two decades and it was unusual for one to need lash adjustment more than once every 10,000 miles even with seriously wild cams.
As engine man for a race team (NASCAR truck series) engine maintenance was my responsibility, part of that was monitoring the valvetrain, watching for failure (solid rollers). We'd run 2-1/2 hrs, 500 race miles - wide open throttle with the exception of yellow flags, with engine speeds between 7800 and 8100rpm - and never had any lifter failures. Valvetrain inspection was checking valve lash, if it varied it was the first sign of one of several possible failures. The only time lash varied more than a couple thousandths the issue was valve stretch, titanium valves have a finite service life before they'll stretch then fail in tension. You probably know what dropping a valve does to an engine.
Valve springs on this particular engine - and any engine that runs high rpm - would be high maintenance, and going to a hydraulic roller would make that worse. Hydraulic roller lifters are heavier that solids so the springs need to be stiffer to run the same rpm as solids.
These kind of builds require inspection which is maintenance just the same - nothing with this kind of output is maintenance free.
The maintenance would be the same or worse depending on how often it's wound up high.