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What Did This Vision REVEAL About Daemon & Aemond?
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- The Daemon visions in House of The Dragon reveal a lot thematically.
I think most audiences and book readers have been able to draw the comparisons between Daemon and Aemond pretty easily. And even though these two characters are not seen directly interacting with each other outside of one scene in episode 8 of season one, House of The Dragon has put plenty on display for the audience to recognize these similarities.
But that still doesn’t truly explain why Daemon sees himself disguised as Aemond when he has his visions in Episode 4 of Season 2. Obviously Harrenhal is drawing out a lot of thoughts and emotions from Daemon, and it’s playing into the curse or the haunting legends attached to the castle itself. Many of these visions seem to play on Daemon inner conflicts, subconscious, and even some of his guilt. We can identify mostly why these visions have attached themselves to Daemon. However, this moment where Daemon sees himself disguised as Aemond, really doesn’t fall into these other categories, and there seems to be no true connection between Daemon and his nephew, at least plotwise. So it does come across as just strange and just a way for the showrunners for House of The Dragon to just play with their audience’s expectations and hit us with a little bit of shock value. But this is just a very surface level way of viewing this. I think there’s tremendous connections between Daemon and Aemond, and while it’s not exactly plot driven, these two characters are being driven by very similar conflicts, and they are very much attached thematically.
#houseofthedragon #daemontargaryen #aemondtargaryen
Remember in the very first episode of the series when Aemma told Viserys that Rhaenyra wanted her sister to be called Visenya and Viserys answered "we already have a Visenya in the family" referring to Daemon. Somehow, both Daemon and Aemond seem to be reincarnations of Visenya. I don't mean it literally, but symbolically, both seem to possess that savagery, brutality and ambition Visenya had. From what we can read from Fire and Blood, Visenya was ruthless and commanding just as her two descendants. She was most likely jealous of how Aegon I preferred Rhaenys over her and she ultimately put her son on the throne in part because she saw Rhaeny's line as weak, but also because she wanted that crown herself and her bloodline all along. Daemon has Visenya's sword (Dark Sister) and Aemond has Visenya's dragon (Vhagar).
And let's not forget, Vhagar was Visenya's dragon, but it was also Laena's, which is yet another connection between them, and one that might play a role in the details of their duel
This makes me want to see aegons conquest so bad. I can see Aegon being a very noble Jon Snow type. Rhaenys likely being more alike to Daenyrys. Would be so fun seeing Visenya holding back her jealousy and ruthlessness from her siblings. All while being a complete badass
The writers are conveying a deeper introspection within Daemon as he reflects on his influence over the unfolding events. He subconsciously wonders if Aemond would have become the person he is now if Daemon hadn't been so openly ruthless. Aemond's idolization of Daemon from a young age is evident, suggesting that Daemon's actions and demeanor significantly shaped Aemond's character and choices. This raises the question of how much of Aemond's behavior is a reflection of Daemon's own ruthlessness and whether things might have been different had Daemon been a different kind of role model.
He never seemed to care that a young man was following his footsteps.
@@hayatudeenohize8148 not til now
I believe you are summarizing the whole point of this video. That being said, I agree.
I thought he looked kinda goofy when he turned 😅
same... like Daemon in an Aemond halloween costume
It turned out Daemon secretly wanted to cosplay as Aemond.
Not the other way around.
Yup the costume was not doing him favors wth.
He did look weird 😂😂😂
He looked goofy with the helmet when he first went into Harrenhall😭😭
The son Daemon never knew he had
I love the fact that the actor copied Aemonds duck face when he turned around.
Daemon
AemonD
The difference is in the 'D'
You guys read too much into it. He is obviously Damon's illegitimate child.
I love the irony in your comment. :D
I first thought of Ayl's prediction that Daemon will die at Harrenhal . When I saw Aemond in the dream, to me he saw his killer.
Anything i say will be a spoiler so, i'll let you be
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER.
He is his killer. As Daemon is his.
I don’t think Daemon wanted the throne for himself as much as Aemond. I think Daemon wanted to protect his brother’s throne from people like Otto Hightower who seemed bent on getting closer to the king. Daemon went so far as to wed his niece and even got fealty oaths for her after his brother’s death. Aemond really wants the throne because he sees his brother Aegon not really interested in his birthright as well as his bride. Outside of that, uncle and nephew are similar as warriors and dragon riders. They also know how to inspire loyalty from their men.
He literally said it should be he who sits the throne
D in the front. D in the back.
That’s why they are the two sides of the same coin.
That’s why Alys Rivers wanted both of their Ds (but Daemon probably rejected her).
That’s why the show is called “HoT D”.
FUCKIN GENIUS MATE GENIUS
😂😂😂😂😂
Pure genius
The TV show seems to indicate Alys has roofied Daemon.
(so Daemon did not reject her, as he was forced into sex)
When Alys gave a Jojen paste to Daemon, it put him into an acid trip and became even more unhinged.
Makes me wonder if her sexual encounter with Aemond was actually consensual or was it like when Lysa SA’d Littlefinger when he’s drunk? Aemond could be under the great influence of Jojen paste and Alys’ dark magic big time. That’s why he spared her life while executing her whole family (or maybe she’s just that hot) and suddenly became so obsessed with her when he’s at Harrenhal. And what happened to their kid inside her womb? What became of their child now?
I admire her resourcefulness! If some dragon lord attacked MY home and did all that, I would use whatever tools I had at my disposal to mete out VENGEANCE.
I love how you're calling it 'a Jojen Paste', like every weirwood paste needs Jojen's blood in particular, even long before he was born.
@@MattJDave Best. Comment. Ever. :D
I've been saying this since last season, knowing there are rumors in the book that Daemon slept with Alicent, and in season 1 when Rhaenyra toasts Alicent for being a "faithful wife" to Viserys... they cut to Daemon who looks awfully guilty the way his eyes shift. Also would make sense that he would sleep with Alicent to get back at Viserys for exiling him. Plus Alicent gets all jealous and bent out of shape when she finds out Rhaenyra was spotted in a pleasure house with Daemon "coupling"... the hair, the demeanor etc etc. long story short I think Aemond is Daemon's son.
Iiiinteresting...
Idk man they really played up the girls relationship early in the story. The actresses thought they were supposed to be in love so I think you might be a little off on the theory. Change some names and it suddenly makes more sense alicent was jealous
Interesting 🧐 indeed.
Aemond is Daemon letters in name switched around.
that whole scene was showing us how daemon will die they even played caraxes sound at the end
What do you mean?
That was my theory as well but I think the theory in this video makes sense
How both Aemond and Daemon both die...
Huh?
Aegon threw a feast for Aemond and built a statue for him in F&B though, I guess this is just the show going it's own way, interesting choice though.
Damn, it’s a good thing you pointed out! I didn’t even notice that 😳!
he is him he will continue to be him
I think perhaps Aemond is who he may be becoming with his jealous towards Viserys and Rhaenyra, and the Weirwoods and his psyche are warning him that he may become Aemond if he doesn’t realize his love and loyalty for Rhaenyra is greater than his yearning for power and the Iron Throne.
Dude it's the other way around, Daemon has always been jealous towards his brother and niece
@@AnakinGozie77 Reread. That’s exactly what I said. The weirwood is showing him who he’ll become if he feeds this jealousy, and it’s basically Aemond. Daemon won’t like being compared to a kin slayer, especially in tangent to Rhaenyra in particular. The Rhaenyra beheading illusion supports this, imho. It’s a fear he has. He’ll be the death of her.
And as usual, one more TB member is portrayed as still-redeemable in-show, while TG member as "extreme/lost cause", but yeah, makes sense, even more considering how the guards return to KL saying that Aegon was the one to defeat Meleys, when it was actually Aemond to deliver the fatal blow (but iirc in the books Aegon was the one to give the idea, so it ended up as a joint effort, unlike the show). And here I thought his name was Aemond because Martin isn't creative with names, so he used the name of his favorite character and anagram'ed it just because XDD Like, for someone that literally names a charater as "gene pool/Jeyne Poole", he was running out of ideas, so Anagrams were his salvation. Coming to think of it now, impressive how he's always connected with old women: madam (show), vhagar (book/show), Alys (book says she's actually waay older than she looks), but I'm more interested in Alys now, I love her connection with magic and it's a chance to bring this element back!
Ryan Condal hates the Greens and wants to flatten out the story by creating this false manichaeist dichotomy. It is obvious by now. That being said, it is interesting how he unwittingly depicted Daemon fangirling Aemond in his dreams despite the common perception being the other way around.
PS: Hill's Alive has a great video comparing both characters: the Rogue Prince who likes Young Girls and the Dutiful Son who prefers Older Ladies.
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Cant spell Aemond without Daemon
I get what you are trying to say , but that's not the right way to put it
Seeing these comparisons makes me want to see the ending of both these characters. If you know, you know. 😉👍
Daemond
Seriously you have no idea how irritating it is to edit my audio countless times for saying the wrong name over and over.
@@DCharles I understand did you actually say daemond because that was not what I was referencing, me saying Daemond is more a reference to how they are similar
No. Your comment just triggered my frustrations editing.
I followed your comment just fine. Sorry, just venting at your expense I suppose.
@@DCharles no worries Glad you let that frustration out It is never good to hold It in
Aemond was named after Daemon that's the Targaryen he wants to be like the most
well then he would be named Daemon lol
It rhymes for a reason I won't explain it any further for ignorant people seeking attention
It’s An Anagram
While that seemed to be true until yesterday, it turned out - in the end - Daemon was the one fantasizing about being Aemond.
@@marceloyoneshima Aemond's number one fan boy ... in every coment
What if Aemond is son of Daemon
1:00 season 2 showing us its not only the valyrian Daemon is high on !
“Why you trolling deamon aint you tired.
Trying to strick a chord and its probably a minor(nettles).”- Aemond
HBO - We could take 15 mins more in this Episode to further the story but how would we fit in 15 mins of 2 random dudes blowing each other.
It's just me maybe.
But in the first 5 sec of this Daemon's vision, I thought It was Viserys. Then Aemond and finally himself.
Aemond has love for his brother as his brother has love for him. Displayed in the scene where Aemond starts trouble with the strong boys and Aegon gets involved without hesitation. The off cam scene where Aegon influences Aemond to join in with his whoring might be a way he attempts to connect with his younger brother. When Aemond names Aegon during the whole eye loss situation he doesn't deflect immediately and say I don't know what he's talking about he covers for his younger brother. They do have love for eachother or at least if not a sense of duty towards one another. As a result the conclusion your take reaches when it speaks of the lack of love between the brothers as a premise is incorrect. The latest episode might be warping your opinion so I'll ask this question:
If you were Aemond how else would you seperate Aegon and Sunfyre from Meleys who was ravaging the dragon. What other way would you think of? Get in close? and risk Vhagar possibly destroying and attacking both dragons ending your own brothers life?. Focus the dracarys blast solely on meleys allowing meleys to still have ahold of the king possibly giving Rhaenys the option of chomping and finishing your brother and king with ease? Or would you take Aemonds route and fire at the region of Meleys mouth that holds Sunfyre to set the dragon free?
I think Aemond fired on Aegons dragon in an attempt to seperate the two dragons. and then finish of meleys. He was already making the gesture of sheating his blade when Criston walked in on him. He did not intend to kill Aegon. If he did. Aegon would already be dead.
Disagree
@DCharles fair enough it was a great video though I thoroughly enjoyed it
It reveals that they are going to fight
Did anyone notice that we didnt get any or barely any scens with Daemon and his children? Does he even careabout them?
I think this is intentional for something later in his character arc.
He doesn't he never aegon is better than him in that way
Otherwise daemon and aemond are the most interesting characters of the show
Him not caring about his daughters is a SHOW creation. In the book he cared for them, and very much cared for Laena. It irks me no end that the show presents a cold, or no relationship with his daughters.
There was a scene in season 1 where he hugs his daughters after Laena's death and they cut it, instead showing him walking away while they cry. The show is going out of its way to depict him as a ruthless monster and I can't understand the reason, he is already a grey and morally ambiguous character to say the least.
Daemon wants and is willing to kill Alice, plus all her children. So yeah, I don’t think Daemon has a problem with kin slaying.
Who are we to judge you know. If I had a Dragon I might be tempted to attack my brother with it as well. Shit happens. Brothers will be Brothers.
This is so ridiculous. We can understand A BIT how Aemond can kinda feel interested about Daemon, but Daemon NEVER cared about Aemond. The ONLY scene Aemond turned significant to Daemon in a minuscule way was in the dinner scene conflict, but that was nothing really. And lets not even start about Lucerys. Daemon dont care about the Strong Boys, neither his own daughters. There is barely any rivality between Daemon and Aemond and the fans gaslight everyone imagining things.
If you take the last letter out of Aemond name and put it first, you have Deamon
Einstein reincarnated over here
@@stephenlynch6389 your mom over here. Sorry I mean over me. I mean ontop of me. FU
@@stephenlynch6389 your too cool. I just watch the show but you prob yank it to pics of Aemond in the actual book after cos-playing HOTD with your fellow tool buddies 😂😂
@@stephenlynch6389 how do you say f-ggot in “High Valeryian”? I believe it is stephenlynchballlicker
@RobertSklar2013 you liked you're own comments 😂😂😂 sad sad man
Aemond ... forever Daemon wanna be .
Aemond is the upgraded version of Daemon.
@@kylemma33 keep dreaming
As we saw in the last episode, it is Daemon who dreams about himself dressed as Aemond.
@@marceloyoneshima those visions have way deeper meaning ...Geez
@@palomavr1676
Yes, they may have deeper meaning. I do not disagree with that statement.
They also show that Daemon is the one who dreams about being Aemond.
Nah they are different
Daemon was loyal to his brother
Hopefully the showrunners understand that their encounter is perhaps the most iconic scene in the book. And that they'd be wise to put it off as long as possible. Ending it in season 2 would be a big mistake.
On a more trivial note. Aemond definitely looks better than Daemon with the eye patch.
There’s no reason to expect Daemon and Aemond face off before much more occurs. Going off of the book, I’d expect it toward the end of season 3
there is a book?
They're not the same at all..The visions in Harrenhall he had of himself looking like Aemond was just a dream state foreshadowing events further in the timeline where they will confront each other above the God's Eye. Alys Rivers already knows this and she is hinting at it by playing mind games with Daemon.
How about a spoiler warning for show only viewers please?
There is a spoiler warning before I say anything that hasn’t occurred yet in the show. What are you referring to?
You just ruined the series.
What?
Spoiler warning…ffs
What are you referring to? When I discuss the book I do make a spoiler warning.
@@DCharles Damon and Aemond fight.
No worries, man. My own fault 😆
Well you’re not the first person to comment about spoilers, so I didn’t know if there’s a mistake in the first half of the video that I missed before the spoiler section.
@@DCharles appreciate the reply! It was just a quick comment about Damon and Aegon’s fight. There may or may not have been a spoiler warning. I was multitasking and then I was like “DOH.” Sorry for snarky comment!
It’s the internet. I’ve experienced far more harsh comments. No worries
No rival, but they are both the Joker, they are both so unpredictable , are the ACE in their sides team so to speak
no no no , he don't want the throne at all, he not bothered at all
did they show Deamon dressed as Alomond ???? when that happen ?
And yet he won't past the age of 21, eyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee