What Fails on a 6.4 Powerstroke

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  • @skwerlee
    @skwerlee 3 роки тому +6

    my friend's dad has a 2010 6.4 with 330,000 on it. He deleted the DPF years ago, when the high pressure fuel pump failed several years ago he added Sinister EGR coolers while the cab was off the frame, no issues since.

  • @richardjeun
    @richardjeun Рік тому +2

    I did everything to my truck you mentioned, except I did not delete anything since I live in California. Every 30-40 thousand miles, I get my DPF baked and cleaned. I also get all three EGT sensors replaced each time I get my DPF cleaned. It’s also very important to run Archoil fuel and oil treatment for many reasons. Also, cetane is not regulated for diesel fuels in the US so it’s important to add cetane booster to your fuel, every time you fill up. Modifications and aftermarket parts can damage your truck since you will change the engineering parameters, but I did had to replace my EGR coolers to Bulletproof brand coolers when the stock ones failed. Finally, the last thing I would like to add to your recipe is a water misting system. I came up with an idea, after learning about an old military technology, of incorporating a RV water pump and a 5 gallon water bucket in my trunk, with a switch to control it from the cab, and ran a 1/4” irrigation line to my engine bay. This line would distribute pressured water to multiple water mist fittings (purchased at Home Depot) to ALL my heat exchangers, on demand, when climbing a hill, when regenerating, and when towing in extreme conditions and/or weather conditions. My ultimate plan is to sell my truck whenever I don’t need it anymore or make this thing last as long as possible while I own it. If I were you, I would change your oil every 5k miles and purchase the engine oil cooler by Bulletproof Diesel. I think they call it a Half Cooler. Any other ideas or comment?

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  Рік тому +1

      No that's is a good list. The water spray system is interesting idea. How well does it work for you?

    • @richardjeun
      @richardjeun Рік тому +2

      I decided to try it because I had a spare water pump lying around. This concept is used on the condenser of residential air conditioner units to save electricity. It works, but I don’t know how much of an impact it makes because I don’t have temperature monitor sensors, but I do know that these trucks suffer a lot from heat. My water tank for this system is just a 5 gallon bucket with a lid, a hose barb fitting at the bottom of the bucket; it will last me enough water for one regen. I thought about branching off to a misting nozzle for my turbo, but I don’t think that’s a good idea because the sudden temperature drop can crack metal. Make sure you buy any aftermarket cab isolators and replace the original, factory isolators because they don’t last; they’re too soft. Pretty sure they absorb well, but don’t last. I’ve seen videos when they tried lifting one side of the truck wheel with a forklift, and it puts a twist on the front end, enough to twist/compress the radiator.
      I’m all for creating a clever way to make these trucks last, without changing the original design. These 6.4L trucks generate a lot of heat. Heat is the #1 killer of many components. When you hear your fan kick in, it’s wise to slow down, roll down your windows, turn the cab heater to full blast, turn your misting system on, and pray to God. Ill do whatever it takes because I now see how expensive the repair bills can get for these trucks.
      Before fueling, make cocktails ahead of time. For me, I purchase cetane booster, by the gallon, at ford dealership. I also buy the largest bottle of Archoil fuel additive. My third ingredient is Lucas fuel treatment. I use empty 16 ounce bottles with graduated lines on them (original small cetane booster bottles from the dealer) to fill 15 ml of Archoil, 12 ounces of cetane booster, and then fill the rest up with Lucas. I am using Lucas as the carrier to my other ingredients; just like drinking water to wash down NyQuil. There is a UA-cam video about Archoil hosted by Jay Leno. Watch that one because they talk about all the great benefits of Archoil. The key to make these trucks last is providing lubricity, efficient combustion, and heat management.

    • @KevinCorapi
      @KevinCorapi 9 місяців тому

      ​@@richardjeun
      If you're misting with distilled water then yes absolutely. Water absorbs so much heat when it evaporates, I even set a sprinkler on my roof in the summer time.
      The issue you WILL run into if you're not using distilled, is calcium buildup. It will fill clog your radiator fins.

    • @richardjeun
      @richardjeun 9 місяців тому

      I agree. I use water that has gone through my water softener system at my house. My water softener gets rid of magnesium and calcium. Good point though!

  • @lowandslow24
    @lowandslow24 4 роки тому +31

    Everything. The answer is everything.

  • @ziggy8013
    @ziggy8013 4 роки тому +10

    I’ve had my 08 6.4 King Ranch since 2010. Bought it off my father in law who had the DPF delete on it basically the day after he bought it. It’s been programmed with a SCT programmer for economy and I’m about to turn 170k on it. The only issues I’ve had were the EGR valve and two belt pulleys. Maintenance regularly and I throw some SeaFoam in her every 6 months or so. She might die soon or she might not but all I know is that the DPF and shitty maintenance is a major cause of these engines dying on owners. And great video 👍

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому

      That’s awesome, you made it pass the 150k mark haha. But the dpf and poor maintenance is the main killer for these engines

    • @americanenclosures
      @americanenclosures 3 роки тому

      How much does a dpf delete run?

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  3 роки тому +1

      Depends on parts you can find but anywhere from $1,000 to $2,000 that's you doing the labor. The minimum you will need is a turner and a DPF delete pipe.

  • @jlev505
    @jlev505 3 роки тому +4

    I’ve got a 09 CC 4x4 King ranch. 201,xxx on the original engine. DPF, EGR and EGR coolers deleted at 94000. Spartan tuner, now patriot tuners. 4” turbo back exhaust with stock can and tips. AFE intake. Never went above the 150HP tune. Only issue I had was the transmission went at 194,000 and a shitty up pipe cracked. Relocated and tapped block off plate for EBP sensor. Alternator went at 192000. Replaced tensioners and belts every 100K. Also replace body mount bushings and lift pump at 190,000, it didn’t fail just put a new one in. Runs great with no blow by. Going to check rockers soon. Better safe than sorry. Oil always changed at 5k and both fuel filters at 10k. I love the truck and don’t plan on getting anything different. It gave me as many issues as my 99.5 7.3L. I should have never sold the 7.3L w/ 140k. Don’t be afraid of the 6.4l. Good trucks if maintained and deleted.

  • @nathananderson7392
    @nathananderson7392 3 роки тому +8

    I bought a 6.4 knowing the problems it will have but also knowing what power they can put down. I've put 30.000.00 in to my 6.4 not including the purchase price and it's still my favorite truck. (You gotta pay to play) I get 20 mpg unloaded

  • @tylerhercula5278
    @tylerhercula5278 4 роки тому +6

    Nice video!! I’d like to add that Rocker failure is a big thing because of lack of lubrication

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому

      yes very good point!!

  • @lucab69
    @lucab69 4 роки тому +5

    From what I’ve read, one of the main reasons the radiator cracks is due to the front cab mounts wearing out! The mishimoto ones are actually known to leak as well lol

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому

      Hmm that’s good to know, I have not heard of that, I will look into that. Thanks for the info!!

    • @lucab69
      @lucab69 4 роки тому +1

      LSRW course. I believe bill Hewitt made a video about it on powerstrokehelp!

  • @stevemesser9197
    @stevemesser9197 4 роки тому +22

    Emmisions kills this motor,delete and proper maintenance done like its supposed to,and no ridiculous tune on a stock motor and they're won't be issues,I'll put my 6.4 against any cummins or duramax anyday

    • @margaritaviveros8017
      @margaritaviveros8017 3 роки тому

      @The-Metal-Life nice 👍🏽 💪

    • @bunb7145
      @bunb7145 3 роки тому +1

      😆 my Lb7 makes around 800hp an double that in torque your hilarious

    • @nathananderson7392
      @nathananderson7392 3 роки тому +3

      @@bunb7145 my 6.4 makes 1000 hp and has a stage 3 engine and trans fully built and I haven't lost to a d-max or a Cummins yet?
      But everyone on the internet has the fastest truck right?

    • @bunb7145
      @bunb7145 3 роки тому +2

      Good for you lol 6.4 ain't my thing dont care

    • @nicholasjansen5601
      @nicholasjansen5601 3 роки тому +2

      @@bunb7145 Hate to tell you but the Lb7 is honestly just as bad as the 6.4’s for reliability.

  • @kevinoneill41
    @kevinoneill41 11 місяців тому +2

    Just like to say the piston rings in 7&8 are fitted a little loose as well to accommodate the high heat for expansion this is a nother reason that the 6.4 powerstrock has excessive blowby that goes directly through your turbocharger. You you know those highly machined instruments that spin at what 60K or so think of how balance is crucial in there performance and longevity. I have installed a catch can system with baffling, must use 1"tube no kinks I vent to atmosphere with a filtered breather like the veh of 50's and 60's there doesn't seem to be any oil drippings but I can fill up a wisky shot glass of drippings every 5K Serviceing these servings are a must if you want to assure any kind of long life. The next week spot is the rocker arm assembly it just breaks down the plastic parts and wears out the moving parts as there doesn't seem to be enough oil getting in there. But I would have thought someone would have come up with a better after market rocker arm assembly by now. Bill Hewitt rest his sole swore by Arch Oil additives for fuel and oil. But I love my 6.4 Powerstroke. This video has been around for sometime now. Now is Dec.23/2023. My truck has 140K miles on her runs like a fraight train. Stay safe out there. Good video thanks for the info

  • @niceguy4928
    @niceguy4928 4 роки тому +4

    A lot of folks buy a diesel truck with a 10 ton plus towing capacity to daily drive to work or go get groceries and pull a small lawnmower around . At our shop we see the least problems and the highest mileage from trucks that pull a big trailer around every day. No to many problems compared to the daily commuters with no load.

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому

      i can see that, diesels need to be worked. when they are not work they seem to start having issues.

  • @craiggravem1468
    @craiggravem1468 3 роки тому +2

    You’re the real deal. I truly appreciate your knowledge as well as your simplicity of honest explanation.

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you, a good amount of research whet into it

    • @craiggravem1468
      @craiggravem1468 3 роки тому

      Looking to buy a 6.4. Must say I have reservations. Would love to discuss.

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  3 роки тому

      What are some other questions, I might be able to help

  • @claytondonnel8719
    @claytondonnel8719 4 роки тому +5

    Damn, I just went and test drove a 08 450 King Ranch, beautiful truck , and the interior was amazing,was going to replace my 01 cummins 3500 Laramie work truck with 300k on her,but after I read all the reviews and videos I'm afraid to buy one , especially being here in California I won't be able to delete it. But I love the looks and interior of the f450s.

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому

      Yeah they are nice looking trucks and ride great but being in CA that’s tricky. Best to luck with that!!

    • @truckerbj
      @truckerbj 4 роки тому +2

      Same here, I love the body style of the 08 to 10 body style of the f450. But seen at the negative and now afraid to get one. But since there's a few parts to swap out i think I'll go for it. Just to pull a 9600 travel trailer a few times a year.

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому +2

      @@truckerbj They doo sell upgraded DFP that are cheaper than the OEM and with good maintenance it could play out for you. best of luck!

    • @truckerbj
      @truckerbj 4 роки тому +1

      @@LSRWvlog definitely have been doing deep research, seems like the ones who have the most problems max the tuners and always run it wide open. I'm looking into the ones with 4.88 gear ratio.

    • @truckerbj
      @truckerbj 4 роки тому +1

      @THE SALTY RANT ok thanks for great advice and information. I've found a few with less than 75k miles.

  • @jonandkariwalter2074
    @jonandkariwalter2074 4 роки тому +5

    Also get a oil bypass filter and coolant filter combo from sinister the oil bypass strains particulates down to 1 micron oil stays clean and ware happens at 4 microns and above the stock filter only strains at 20 microns 6.4 motors need all the help they can get or they will cost you

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому +3

      That’s good to know, I was looking into a coolant filter but I will look into the sinister diesel system, thanks!

  • @michaelbenoit248
    @michaelbenoit248 3 роки тому +4

    My 1993 7.3 idi gets 16-20mpg 20 highway & 16 city that might improve if I change my injectors by maybe +1-2mpg. the idi will run on almost anything as long as it isn't like water and has some form of lubrication.

    • @grndiesel
      @grndiesel 2 роки тому

      IDIs run forever with basic maintenance. And they're so simple that the maintenance really is very basic on them. Love my turbo 6.9IDI.

  • @chrisd5986
    @chrisd5986 4 роки тому +5

    Man it’s unfortunate that the 6.4 has had such a bad wrap, I bought my ‘08 in February and so far I’m extremely happy with it, I fortunately got very lucky and the engine was replaced 20,000 miles ago by the original owner, tuned and deleted so hoping I can avoid most of these issues as time goes on! Like your stuff man, been following u for a few months, keep it up! 👍

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому +1

      thanks for feed back! and yes it is a shame that these trucks have such a bad rap, they do have their problems and they can be expensive. But with the right maintenance and up keep they can be great trucks with good power.

    • @carter.coleman
      @carter.coleman Рік тому

      Where do you get replacement motors

    • @chrisd5986
      @chrisd5986 Рік тому

      @@carter.coleman just depends on the diesel mechanic, they are normally crate engines they order.

    • @carter.coleman
      @carter.coleman Рік тому

      @@chrisd5986 so they are brand new and not pulled from something else?

    • @chrisd5986
      @chrisd5986 Рік тому

      @@carter.coleman yessir…not cheap so make sure you absolutely need it, sometimes, depending on the truck it’s cheaper to sell the truck with a blown engine and buy something new 😬. Just depends of course tho

  • @kevinoneill41
    @kevinoneill41 Рік тому +2

    The emission controls on these trucks are a huge fail and considered an embarrassment
    To air quality control engineering.

  • @Kirsch6.7
    @Kirsch6.7 3 роки тому +2

    Found a 6.4 for a great price! Guy told me the water pump replaced and drain and fill on coolant, both fuel filters replaced and the fuel water separator bowl took apart cleaned, and reinstalled. The truck is all stock and has 248k miles. The truck is nice except for a ding here and a scratch there and a hole in the driver's seat. It's a lariat to. Really uncertain. Any advice

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  3 роки тому +1

      Keep and eye on the blow by, change the oil every 3k if not deleted, if deleted every 5k, use motor craft parts and oil, arch oil to help the fuel system and injectors. Don’t floor it everywhere (even though it’s awesome). And if you did the coolant, make sure you put the additive so it does not cause cavitation. Dining these few things should help, best of luck!!

    • @Kirsch6.7
      @Kirsch6.7 3 роки тому +2

      @@LSRWvlog Thanks, let you know if I have any more q's

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  3 роки тому +1

      Also change the fuel filters every 10k with motorcraft parts

  • @tedshaw4567
    @tedshaw4567 Рік тому +1

    You might want to start looking for a Cummins 59 mechanical

  • @cesargarduno7999
    @cesargarduno7999 2 роки тому +1

    I have 2009 FX4 all blacked out/hard leather interior with 11,000 original miles.

  • @marksrepairj623
    @marksrepairj623 Рік тому +1

    Good video man

  • @favorednation34
    @favorednation34 3 роки тому +3

    my 6.7 gets great mileage and I've had it for 7yrs .....

  • @rfc1626
    @rfc1626 Рік тому

    What is your opinion on a deleted 6.4 with a 100hp tune in terms of reliability

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  Рік тому +1

      If your towing a lot 100hp is a little much, yes the truck will tow "better". With my trucks I run the lowest tune to keep stock parts at low stress. Somethings I see that are pushed when running a higher hp tune is that the fuel system is maxed out. Also biggest thing is keeping the heat down, egt, coolest, etc.

    • @rfc1626
      @rfc1626 Рік тому

      @@LSRWvlog what are your recommendations on keeping the heat down

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  Рік тому +1

      @rfc1626 keep the coolent clean, change every 60k-80k. Make sure to add the ford additive to prevent cavitation. Watch your egts, edge cts3 or other monitors can do that. May require to drill a prob in. Not pushing the truck to climb the hill to keep up with traffic. Also after a long day or towing or heavy towing, let the truck cool down at idle for 5 mins or so.

  • @Zag000n
    @Zag000n 4 роки тому +1

    What’d you do with the blow by hose when you did the delete?

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому

      I have not done the delete

  • @lakotamatt4533
    @lakotamatt4533 Рік тому

    Here’s my take owning 3 of em but my girl I have now has delipped pistons and aftermarket heads, upgraded cam and headstuds fully deleted and single turbo swap, and aluminum radiator it’s been as reliable as they get but I am a maintenance freak I change oil every 3k with Rotella T6 and 1 quart of Lucas and only use Motorcraft fuel and oil filters

  • @trainfanboy2000
    @trainfanboy2000 4 роки тому +4

    The 7.3 Powerstroke is considered by many the best Diesel that Ford has ever made.

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому +4

      It is one of the best engines Powerstroke made, the emissions control is what killed them

    • @trainfanboy2000
      @trainfanboy2000 4 роки тому +2

      LSRW true screw California i don’t blame Ford though.

    • @kyleranderson1948
      @kyleranderson1948 4 роки тому +6

      Ford didn't make the 7.3, international did, as well as the 6.0 and 6.4. So props go to international for that one

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому +1

      @@kyleranderson1948 and that is why ford now make the powerstroke in house

    • @kyleranderson1948
      @kyleranderson1948 4 роки тому +1

      @@LSRWvlog indeed

  • @kevinoneill41
    @kevinoneill41 11 місяців тому

    PS on fuel economy just with the DPF and EGR deletes plus getting rid of the stock Cold air filter that just chokes the air to these engines. Get a nice K&R or S&B Cold Air kit will give you noticeable preformce improvements
    With the deletes and new cold air filter change I improved the MPG by 1/3 that was like better than 5 MPG better and over all performances was like day and night. Also keeep your tunes down I run my tune at stock which is like 30 to 40% mor HP but a I tow a 30ft 5th wheel so I will tap it to tow haul. I know people that will take their tunes to street, but thats just to show off I cant aford to show off. And kicking the tune up to performances mode is just asking for trouble. And trouble on these things is just way😅😅❤

  • @mrj4864
    @mrj4864 4 роки тому +2

    Can I barrow a pencil and paper??

  • @MrYaxalot
    @MrYaxalot 3 роки тому

    my 2500 ram with the 5.9 gets 17 to 19 city and almost 28 mpg unloaded on the freeway. Towing my 20ft flatbed and my turbo s i get 22 mpg. I did buy a diesel for fuel mileage.

  • @-ouv
    @-ouv 3 роки тому

    But is it possible to do a rebuild with a delete and these be a simple reliable engine that I don't have to worry about, can hot rod if need be?

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  3 роки тому

      Fixing the major design issues will increase the reliability. If you hot rod, I would not expect it to last long like a diesel can.

  • @matthewmorrison2970
    @matthewmorrison2970 4 роки тому +2

    If he is deleted it would be way higher

  • @gabrielmartinez3171
    @gabrielmartinez3171 4 роки тому +2

    Buy and idi 6.9 put that diluted fueled oil and use it as fuel there XD filter if before hand.

  • @watupchief5889
    @watupchief5889 4 роки тому +2

    With these mods how’s your 6.4 engine life now?? Heard how horrible these motors were but I feel with mods you have it can significantly improve the motor and reduce the problems they are prone to

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому +2

      doing those mods will help the life of the engine. The engine is running strong and I had no issues with it. There are more and more people getting over 200k with no issues with this engine.

    • @watupchief5889
      @watupchief5889 4 роки тому +1

      LSRW thanks for the input man I was in the market for the 6.4 until all the problems previous owners said they had scared me off but now I realize once you do preventative maintenance like yourself with your truck , they can be very good trucks after all only issue I have was the speed with a load is only allowing you to go 60 mph that grinded my gear lol

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому +1

      They are maintance heavy engines and that’s what people need to know before buying and my 450 was configured to be max towing and to do that they use the 4.88 gearing. Other 450s come with 4.30 witch will allow you to go faster than 60, but beat of luck with your search!

    • @watupchief5889
      @watupchief5889 4 роки тому +2

      LSRW thank you and great 6.4 content as well 👍🏽

  • @terrygriffith7907
    @terrygriffith7907 2 роки тому

    this makes me like my old 7.3 idi even more lol

  • @lovedcups1999
    @lovedcups1999 4 роки тому +3

    I DELETED MINE AN HAVE NONE OF THOSE PROBLEMS AND 14.8 FUEL MILES.

  • @davidfulkerson1187
    @davidfulkerson1187 2 роки тому +1

    Is doing an EGR delete legal?

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  2 роки тому

      No, removing the EGR and DPF is illegal

    • @MightyThunderbolt
      @MightyThunderbolt Рік тому +1

      @@LSRWvlog this truck should be excluded since navistar dropped the ball, theres still alot on the road down here including mine with 240k

  • @steves9955
    @steves9955 3 роки тому

    One word: everything

  • @IbanezBlakeb
    @IbanezBlakeb 3 роки тому +1

    Ita insane how diesel engines are going backwards lol. My 01 24 valve empty on the highway will get 24mpg

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  3 роки тому

      Yep it sucks, diesel engines are more efficient than gasoline but with the emissions, you are burning fuel to clean the exhaust. Doesn't make logical sense.

  • @bookerschwartz9009
    @bookerschwartz9009 2 роки тому

    I wish my truck had a peacock.

  • @kalebsmith2349
    @kalebsmith2349 4 роки тому

    Gosh it sounds like you be better off just to fully delete the truck

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому

      One of the best things to do to a 6.4

  • @joluta1
    @joluta1 2 роки тому

    7.3 will rise again!!!!!

  • @tommyavant7515
    @tommyavant7515 4 роки тому +1

    Your selling that truck and your in my area

    • @LSRWvlog
      @LSRWvlog  4 роки тому

      Yeah it sold and I’ll post a video for what I sold it for

  • @phillipjgustafson9792
    @phillipjgustafson9792 3 роки тому

    Run a way from a 6.4 don't buy bad motor or get it bullet proof🤬😡

  • @mikeflanders1292
    @mikeflanders1292 Рік тому

    Peacock... lmfao. It's a petcock

  • @DoctorRickSanchez
    @DoctorRickSanchez 4 роки тому

    It's a 6.4 nuff sed.

  • @codythomas1499
    @codythomas1499 3 роки тому

    The answer is don’t buy one of them piece of shits

  • @johnbolt665
    @johnbolt665 3 роки тому

    It would be easier to say the things that are unlikely to fail like the muffler!

  • @atx-cvpi_99
    @atx-cvpi_99 3 роки тому

    Those engines are junk.