It-s a funny thing, but I can't bare the thought of people killing horses. Even though we have the Idea of possible threats, I know,. But when I read the death toll of Horses in war, it freaked me out.
Could the pilot select all eight guns firing or could he select between 2-4-6-8 guns to conserve ammo? Depending on the target he may not need all eight? Just wondering.
Two questions: 1st: Why did some shots look like tadpoles and therefore deviate from the target as if the bullets created a life of their own? 2nd: Why shoot the horses?? Poor animals. 😢😢
1) the pyro charge that makes a round a tracer can fall off the back of the round, and you're watching that pyro charge spiral out of control, which will ultimately fizzle up in a few seconds. 2) almost always, the invading forces would confiscate the local animals for food and logistics. if you saw a horse towing a wagon of hay, you could assure yourself it was an enemy logistics run.
Question 1 is ricochet of of the ground building w.e obstacle in the way. Questions 2 is yes I do get why the horses they were used for military purposes can't not destroy enemies' belongings just because of a horse
Sadly horses were very much used to transport troops , food, weaponry and other good . Basically an extension of the war machine. The horses didn't deserve to be put into that situation I guess💁♂️
The German Army entered World War II with 514,000 horses,[14] and over the course of the war employed, in total, 2.75 million horses and mules;[17] the average number of horses in the Army reached 1.1 million
The German Army entered World War II with 514,000 horses,[14] and over the course of the war employed, in total, 2.75 million horses and mules;[17] the average number of horses in the Army reached 1.1 million
France+Germany 1944-1945 were not full of civilians hanging out in towns during the war to all the idiots crying “war crimes!”. The entire continent was a war zone and civilians were evacuated days or weeks before frontlines got to them. Towns behind the frontlines were almost always occupied by militaries. To the uneducated commenters here, these idyllic countryside villages were all strategic military targets occupied by the Wehrmacht. They aren’t strafing random civilians. The horse carts you see are German military supply transports. Germany used millions of work horses especially nearing the end of the war. All those trains are carrying German war effort materials and weapons, all those buildings are empty or occupied by Wehrmacht. A lot of you have no clue what is going on so stop commenting as if you know everything.
Also this footage is from the planes that didn’t get blown out of the sky by flak, which was a huge amount of them. This is footage of the lucky sorties that didn’t end with them burning to death while plummeting to the ground. Calling Americans “cowards” for doing the same thing everybody else did in a war 80 years ago for the sake of shitting on America is hilarious to me. As if this P-47 gun cam footage is any different than British Hawker Typhoon gun cam footage. Same exact war, same exact combat air patrols. Same exact results. Yet I never see the British or any other Allied powers being called cowards for using air superiority in the same exact way.
You are right about the strategic targets, but you contradict your own statement by saying first civilians were evacuated away from the front lines and second that targets behind the front lines were "all strategic military targets". Those towns behind the front lines were full of fleeing civilians. So a horse cart could be military or civilian. A strafing pilot surely could not know that beforehand. Every strafing attack or bombing run had the potential for civilian casualties, even if not intended.
@@Wolfgang-Schnaufer Those men gave their lives so we can be free. I'm not romanticizing war. Those men saved the world. I've talked to the men that did that. I've told them the same thing. They have never said I'm romanticizing war. So shut the heck up
Copyright W. Churchill (comment on the battle of Britain and in this case its true. It does not apply to these Cowboys shooting on everything and everybody that moved as there were farmers on the field, school children ....)
Some of those targest are questionable. Horse & Carts carrying hay, and a housing estate. Some pilots were assholes and shot at anything and everything.
All these comments about shooting horses, shooting civilians, pilots missing targets…. ridiculous. With all due respect, please learn a little more about history and about the nature of war.
you are just WRONG... what, were they NZAI horses? have you been to war? you dont shoot the bloody animals unless they are a threat and thats when you are fighting on the ground, this is a pilot and probably thinking it funny to shoot two horses.. it was wrong back then, as it is still wrong today. you dont know crap.
Horses have always been targets in war. I’m not saying it’s right, but it’s reality. Prior to the mid-1800’s and railroads all military transportation was by animals. America mechanized her military for WWII, but Germany did not. They didn’t have enough oil or rubber so everything was transported by train or horse. So, to defeat Germany in WW2, just as in every war in history before that, you had to kill a lot of horses.
Sorry people but in war things die horses being shot, cows from not getting milked , chickens for the pot and so on. Humans die in horrific situations and numbers. The only humane way to stop the killing is to bring the end of war quickly. Which is what these pilots are trying to accomplish by risking their lives. Plato said “ Only the dead have seen the end of war “
Show me the videos of what was "Being done to innocent jews", AS IT WAS BEING DONE, like here, and then we'll talk. And to be clear, you agree that the strafing of civilians is ok? You must be american, you people are still doing EXACTLY the same to this VERY day. Disgusting.
@@Sidneyyoungblood75 I understand that it bothers you to hear the truth about your brothers but... the truth... doesn't change just because it bothers you...
Armies do worse than this they shoot and kill people. They destroy shelters, hospitals, schools. There is nothing about modern warfare that is not criminal.
The German Army entered World War II with 514,000 horses,[14] and over the course of the war employed, in total, 2.75 million horses and mules;[17] the average number of horses in the Army reached 1.1 million
yeah, can only hope he paid for it.... what, were they NAZI horses? no excuse for that, what a sh1t human, they are clearly horses and nothing to do with germans...
They probably did have to shoot the horses, unfortunately. Fun fact, but no so fun: though WW2 saw more use of mechanized troops, the horse was still extensively used for transportation, especially by the Nazis and the Soviets. It's estimated that the Nazis used up to 2.75 million horses over the course of the war. It isn't something they liked to show on their propaganda reals, but they hadn't the manufacturing capacity or the fuel to supply enough trucks for their needs. So, unfortunately, the poor horses were legitimate targets, killing them to disrupt their supply lines.
@@alabamared2568 no it wasn’t. That was war. They had to area bomb because they couldn’t be accurate enough back then. These idiots can clearly see what they’re shooting at. Typical cowboy Americans.
P47 ..known as the "JUG " was one of the only warbirds with 8 50 caliber browning machine guns and rockets as well. Unfortunately it was a awful head to head fighter. Just to slow for the bf109 and fockwulf fighters of Germany..i could be totally wrong..but I'm a dancing fool fool fool.
No, it was actually one of the best fighters in WWII, especially after they started putting better propellers on them to improve their climb rate. It was outstanding at high altitudes and had tremendous firepower. It was fast, with a top speed of over 400 mph, and could out dive all other WWII fighters. It was able to take more damage than any other fighter and still get home. Later in the war, when the smaller and much less expensive Mustang replaced it as a bomber escort, the P47 excelled in other roles- ground support, bombing, and, as seen in this video, strafing.
@xzy89c p47s made outnumbered p51s by a ratio of 5 to 1 . So the fact that p47 didn't have many many times the kills of any of the other fighters shows what a slow cumbersome jug it actually was. It had its purpose. But dog fighting was the last thing a p47 pilot wanted. Even coming out of the clouds at high altitude.
No, the Thunderbolt was actually one of the best fighters of the war. The narrative we see these days is very inaccurate. While the P-51 did have some advantages over the P-47, the main reasons it replaced the P-47 were cost and size. The Mustangs were a third of the price, more could fit on a ship and they used less fuel.
@@FrankM-w7k WRONG !!!! The P47 was USA's most produced fighter right at 16,000 of them P51 second most at 15,000 and yes the P40 was the third most produced at 14,000, facts of history IF you do the research!!!
Americans have always had the habit of shooting at civilians, in my country (northern Italy) several of my relatives died or were injured by bombs or machine guns between 1943 and 1945 and, none of them were military, many at era they were women and children...
Sorry to break it to you but collateral damage came in droves at a time where there weren’t laser guided munitions and satellite/drone surveillance to avoid all civilian casualties. You’re just trying to hate on America for no particular reason. Let’s also not mention Italy rolling into North Africa to kill a bunch of civilians on purpose or anything.
It-s a funny thing, but I can't bare the thought of people killing horses. Even though we have the Idea of possible threats, I know,. But when I read the death toll of Horses in war, it freaked me out.
Thanks for the clip, first time I have seen that particular footage
At @4:38 a horse drawn wagon is straffed, you can see poor horses galloping down the road...
Weeee!!! 😆🤣😁
Could the pilot select all eight guns firing or could he select between 2-4-6-8 guns to conserve ammo? Depending on the target he may not need all eight? Just wondering.
Some WW2 aircraft had a selector switch but I'm pretty sure they all fired at once here.
They had selectors limited only to guns and bombs. 2
Two questions:
1st: Why did some shots look like tadpoles and therefore deviate from the target as if the bullets created a life of their own?
2nd: Why shoot the horses?? Poor animals. 😢😢
1) the pyro charge that makes a round a tracer can fall off the back of the round, and you're watching that pyro charge spiral out of control, which will ultimately fizzle up in a few seconds.
2) almost always, the invading forces would confiscate the local animals for food and logistics. if you saw a horse towing a wagon of hay, you could assure yourself it was an enemy logistics run.
Question 1 is ricochet of of the ground building w.e obstacle in the way. Questions 2 is yes I do get why the horses they were used for military purposes can't not destroy enemies' belongings just because of a horse
They were Nazi horses so it's ok. Most of the horse population at that time subscribed to Nazi ideology even if they were not party members.
Sadly horses were very much used to transport troops , food, weaponry and other good . Basically an extension of the war machine. The horses didn't deserve to be put into that situation I guess💁♂️
Tens of thousands of horses were used by the Germans for transport as petrol (gasoline) was in very short supply.
watched the whole video in silence... only to get a heartattack when you suddenly spoke xD
That part startles me on his silent films, usually!
3:41 Flak burst
I think it's not a flak. You can see how something (likely bullet) went down after what. Its a bullet collision.
Plus, you can see 2 different bullets come towards the plane, also!
I take it a lot of people were injured during the making of this film?
And horses! 🐎
@ 5:02 Horse and carriage...could have been a farmer or other civilian, no bonus points there
Google ww2 german army use of horses. They used horses for transport extensively.
The German Army entered World War II with 514,000 horses,[14] and over the course of the war employed, in total, 2.75 million horses and mules;[17] the average number of horses in the Army reached 1.1 million
@@xzy89c And that makes an animal a legal target? Like the horse had a choice? Smart answer buddy. 🙄
@@Slaktrax think a bit harder. A horse pulling supplies for the army is what?
@@xzy89c Your level of ignorance is about the same as your ridiculous reasoning. You are a complete waste of space, son.
Wow ! Fire power -
I'd love to geolocate a lot of this footage, the countryside in I'm guessing France is beautiful.
It's west germany as this are very late war reels
@@LookinThePastWarArchives I agree. They would not be strafing civilian targets in France.
@@Nick-bp7jf Oh really? Tens of thousands of French civilians were killed during and just after the 'd-day" invasion by allied airplanes.
@@Nick-bp7jf Funny...
4:34
Why shoot a horse carriage from a plane?
Late in the war the Germans carried weapons and equipment on the back of horse drawn carts trying to discuses their use.
@@braxxian ("...disguise...")
The German Army entered World War II with 514,000 horses,[14] and over the course of the war employed, in total, 2.75 million horses and mules;[17] the average number of horses in the Army reached 1.1 million
Yanks didn't have a reputation for being hooligans for nothing.
@@Slaktrax your ignorance is exceeded only by your ignorance
Far more US pilots died in ground attack missions than in dogfights in WWII. Flak is no joke.
Not hard to believe at all. Flak fire significantly saturated the sky with death vs a few mounted machine guns.
Yes, getting assigned to ground attack missions hurt pilot morale
I see that Harry 'the horse killer' is at it again.
It seems that the fighters attack in favorite the gas/ Benzin Waggons of the trains
I can hear a troll a calling 😂
My grandfather was shot at from an airplane while he was plowing a field in April 1945.He missed
France+Germany 1944-1945 were not full of civilians hanging out in towns during the war to all the idiots crying “war crimes!”. The entire continent was a war zone and civilians were evacuated days or weeks before frontlines got to them. Towns behind the frontlines were almost always occupied by militaries. To the uneducated commenters here, these idyllic countryside villages were all strategic military targets occupied by the Wehrmacht. They aren’t strafing random civilians. The horse carts you see are German military supply transports. Germany used millions of work horses especially nearing the end of the war. All those trains are carrying German war effort materials and weapons, all those buildings are empty or occupied by Wehrmacht. A lot of you have no clue what is going on so stop commenting as if you know everything.
Also this footage is from the planes that didn’t get blown out of the sky by flak, which was a huge amount of them. This is footage of the lucky sorties that didn’t end with them burning to death while plummeting to the ground. Calling Americans “cowards” for doing the same thing everybody else did in a war 80 years ago for the sake of shitting on America is hilarious to me. As if this P-47 gun cam footage is any different than British Hawker Typhoon gun cam footage. Same exact war, same exact combat air patrols. Same exact results. Yet I never see the British or any other Allied powers being called cowards for using air superiority in the same exact way.
What nonsense.
@@Geekman333Your username is perfectly fitting.
Not true...
You are right about the strategic targets, but you contradict your own statement by saying first civilians were evacuated away from the front lines and second that targets behind the front lines were "all strategic military targets". Those towns behind the front lines were full of fleeing civilians. So a horse cart could be military or civilian. A strafing pilot surely could not know that beforehand. Every strafing attack or bombing run had the potential for civilian casualties, even if not intended.
P47 was an engine with a plane attached.
"..oh, George...not the livestock..."
Plane vs Horse 😢
Poor horses
On wings of history, they saved the world! To live eternally, skybound the roam! In all of history, never before, was more owed to so few
How you people like to romanticize war criminals is disgusting.
@@Wolfgang-Schnaufer Those men gave their lives so we can be free. I'm not romanticizing war. Those men saved the world. I've talked to the men that did that. I've told them the same thing. They have never said I'm romanticizing war. So shut the heck up
Copyright W. Churchill (comment on the battle of Britain and in this case its true. It does not apply to these Cowboys shooting on everything and everybody that moved as there were farmers on the field, school children ....)
Стрелять по упряжным лошадям последнее дело.
Some of those targest are questionable. Horse & Carts carrying hay, and a housing estate. Some pilots were assholes and shot at anything and everything.
The German army in World War II was predominantly horse drawn, you clearly know nothing about the subject
@@CaspianWint Ah yes, strategic hay, of course. My bad.
Senseless
Wow, these guys were poor shots.....
Yeah terrible, flying low at 200+ mph, trying to pull out of a dive and not get taken down by fire.
Bloody awful shooting
@@Sidneyyoungblood75 Yes. The horses shoot first. You can see it clearly.
They love firing at pretty villages on a Sunday morning.
"Trigger-happy"
Lol, tell me you know nothing about ww2 without saying it.
Those people were cheering on Hitler and Benito Mussolini, so ya, it was the enemy.
Villages look pretty ugly when they’re full of Gestapo and SS.
Villages that supported throwing babies in gas chambers at Auschwitz. F*** 'em.
Some of these pilots don't seem to be able to hit anything...
It’s not easy to hit anything flying a plane at over 200 mph
All these comments about shooting horses, shooting civilians, pilots missing targets…. ridiculous. With all due respect, please learn a little more about history and about the nature of war.
you are just WRONG... what, were they NZAI horses? have you been to war? you dont shoot the bloody animals unless they are a threat and thats when you are fighting on the ground, this is a pilot and probably thinking it funny to shoot two horses.. it was wrong back then, as it is still wrong today. you dont know crap.
Horses have always been targets in war. I’m not saying it’s right, but it’s reality. Prior to the mid-1800’s and railroads all military transportation was by animals. America mechanized her military for WWII, but Germany did not. They didn’t have enough oil or rubber so everything was transported by train or horse. So, to defeat Germany in WW2, just as in every war in history before that, you had to kill a lot of horses.
Sorry people but in war things die horses being shot, cows from not getting milked , chickens for the pot and so on. Humans die in horrific situations and numbers. The only humane way to stop the killing is to bring the end of war quickly. Which is what these pilots are trying to accomplish by risking their lives. Plato said “ Only the dead have seen the end of war “
I'm sorry War Crimes ...ohh ok so what they did to those innocent Jews of millions was ok then??????
Show me the videos of what was "Being done to innocent jews", AS IT WAS BEING DONE, like here, and then we'll talk. And to be clear, you agree that the strafing of civilians is ok? You must be american, you people are still doing EXACTLY the same to this VERY day. Disgusting.
90% of the targets are civilians and 95% of the shots end up off target...typically "Yankee"...
100% of what you wrote is utter rubbish.
@@Sidneyyoungblood75 I understand that it bothers you to hear the truth about your brothers but... the truth... doesn't change just because it bothers you...
Don’t know where you got your invented facts but would enjoy seeing the documentation. I suppose you made most of it up.
Lets see the verification of your claims. You'd think a firearms enthusiast would have some common fuckin sense.
I'll be honest, some of the pilots look like they were committing war crimes.
How would you know, this is war, war is hell.
War itself is a war crime.
You don't know anything about history or the war. You're niave and live a privelaged life
How the hell would.you know. Were you there? Thank God candy assess like you weren't fighting back then.
shooting at horse and wagons? wtf
Armies do worse than this they shoot and kill people. They destroy shelters, hospitals, schools. There is nothing about modern warfare that is not criminal.
Soldiers used horses and wagons to move supplies when the war came to Germany.
The German army was almost entirely horse drawn, despite what their propaganda said
@@suasponte8363 Nonsense. You can see hay wagons.
5:02 another horse carriage got shot
😮War crimes
Nah nah nah...
Trains, airfields and trucks were legitimate targets, some of the others weren't...
Traveling on roads was very unsafe then.
Curious what you think was not legitimate target. To take away the horse idea
The German Army entered World War II with 514,000 horses,[14] and over the course of the war employed, in total, 2.75 million horses and mules;[17] the average number of horses in the Army reached 1.1 million
U donkey go play in traffic
Yeah...like the gas chambers at consentration camps???
at 4:38 is he really shooting at a horse buggy? that's probably just a civilian
yeah, can only hope he paid for it.... what, were they NAZI horses? no excuse for that, what a sh1t human, they are clearly horses and nothing to do with germans...
its really sad 😔
Military Transport. Germans used them a lot, especially late in the war when vehicles were running low.
Didn’t have to shoot the horses
They probably did have to shoot the horses, unfortunately.
Fun fact, but no so fun: though WW2 saw more use of mechanized troops, the horse was still extensively used for transportation, especially by the Nazis and the Soviets. It's estimated that the Nazis used up to 2.75 million horses over the course of the war. It isn't something they liked to show on their propaganda reals, but they hadn't the manufacturing capacity or the fuel to supply enough trucks for their needs. So, unfortunately, the poor horses were legitimate targets, killing them to disrupt their supply lines.
Just to let you know, German Shepherd's were shot by allied soldiers as well. It's called total war, which has allowed you to be stupid about it.
I could not shoot horses, they are innocent.
Shooting up horses and carts. Pathetic.
So was the killing of thousands of innocent women and children.....that was pathetic 🤬
@@alabamared2568 no it wasn’t. That was war. They had to area bomb because they couldn’t be accurate enough back then. These idiots can clearly see what they’re shooting at. Typical cowboy Americans.
R u on the nazis side?
@@pug9662 not all Germans were Nazis. A horse and cart is not a military threat. Typical Yank. Great at shooting easy targets.
@@raftonpounder6696Typical idiot that knows nothing about history. Germany used millions of work horses for military supply transportation.
War crimes
These scumbags shoot horses and cows too...
P47 ..known as the "JUG " was one of the only warbirds with 8 50 caliber browning machine guns and rockets as well. Unfortunately it was a awful head to head fighter. Just to slow for the bf109 and fockwulf fighters of Germany..i could be totally wrong..but I'm a dancing fool fool fool.
No, it was actually one of the best fighters in WWII, especially after they started putting better propellers on them to improve their climb rate. It was outstanding at high altitudes and had tremendous firepower. It was fast, with a top speed of over 400 mph, and could out dive all other WWII fighters. It was able to take more damage than any other fighter and still get home. Later in the war, when the smaller and much less expensive Mustang replaced it as a bomber escort, the P47 excelled in other roles- ground support, bombing, and, as seen in this video, strafing.
P47 had more air to air kills than mustang...
@xzy89c p47s made outnumbered p51s by a ratio of 5 to 1 . So the fact that p47 didn't have many many times the kills of any of the other fighters shows what a slow cumbersome jug it actually was. It had its purpose. But dog fighting was the last thing a p47 pilot wanted. Even coming out of the clouds at high altitude.
No, the Thunderbolt was actually one of the best fighters of the war. The narrative we see these days is very inaccurate. While the P-51 did have some advantages over the P-47, the main reasons it replaced the P-47 were cost and size. The Mustangs were a third of the price, more could fit on a ship and they used less fuel.
@@FrankM-w7k WRONG !!!! The P47 was USA's most produced fighter right at 16,000 of them P51 second most at 15,000 and yes the P40 was the third most produced at 14,000, facts of history IF you do the research!!!
STRAFING IS STUPID WASTE OF AMMO
Not really, it's a general term used for attacking ground targets
Americans have always had the habit of shooting at civilians, in my country (northern Italy) several of my relatives died or were injured by bombs or machine guns between 1943 and 1945 and, none of them were military, many at era they were women and children...
Lol, what a dumb thing to write. Living in a war zone is dangerous.
Yeah, too bad your country and other countries like yours start the phucking wars.
Sorry to break it to you but collateral damage came in droves at a time where there weren’t laser guided munitions and satellite/drone surveillance to avoid all civilian casualties. You’re just trying to hate on America for no particular reason. Let’s also not mention Italy rolling into North Africa to kill a bunch of civilians on purpose or anything.
Those people were cheering on Hitler and Benito Mussolini, so ya, it was the enemy.
War is hell, guess you're ancestors should have evacuation the war zone. If I recall Italy and Germany were allies and Germany started the War.