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2017 Ducati Supersport S Review
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2017
- 2017 Ducati Supersport S Review
I'm thrilled to say that at last I get to ride the Ducati Supersport S. The bike was released around a year ago but I've not yet had the chance to ride it, so huge thanks to the guys at Blade Ducati in Abingdon for letting me ride and review the bike. As a Panigale 899 owner I was very keen to see how this compared as a sporty road bike, stay tuned to find out what I thought!
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I notice a lot of the bikes you ride have a problem with the speedometer, which blurs every now and again. lol
Yeah isn't that strange.
The courts must hate it!
If only he recorded this in a ”closed course in Mexico”…
I am sure it's the camera
I test rode both the Supersport S and the Panigale 959. I opted for the Supersport- I don't intend to use it on the track so for general use, it suits me better than the Panigale. I love the looks too. It has all the power you need for street use and, in fact, the power is more accessible (at lower RPM), than the Panigale. Add the greater comfort and reduced heating, and you have a winner. I love the bike. I don't see it as having any meaningful compromises over the Panigale for street use. I agree that the mirrors are very disappointing- they are not useless, but above 50 mph, the image is very blurred.
Well said. 👍
You've got to hand it to the Italians, when it comes to styling they've nailed it. It's a beauty.
Yes lovely machine
I love everything about it except the failure of the windscreen: they should've brought the fairing up framing out the screen. This screen looks like an aftermarket screwed-on a naked bike. That beauty and riding position is awesome still.
Yes but they suck at longevity
Honestly I was not sold on the looks of this version, but now the 2021 version is out it it looks great.
Form over function....
Great review Mr Flyer, didn’t realise this bike existed, blimey learn something new everyday even at my age cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
Finally got the chance to watch this, cracking review as always and a beautiful summary of this awesome bike!
Thanks for the kind comments - much appreciated! All the best - TMF
Another excellent review. I am seriously considering this bike.
great review, had this bike for 3 months now and love it,
Im getting this one next week, trading in my monster for it, competition werkes exhaust
"This engine is lumpy" as you bog it down to 2k rpm in 3rd gear. LOL.
Seems like a very good package. Couple mods as you mentioned tail tidy good exhaust maybe bar end mirrors? It looks like it could work for commute or touring or even for a track day.
Wouldn’t mind seeing some comparisons with pillions. Really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
Great to see you have got your hands on a dealers Ducati, a dealer has seen sense !!! Nice review, looks good, and even better once that tail tidy has been ripped off !!!, and replaced by an R&G.... looks a nice ride, a sensible amount of usable power...love your reviews, must be the best Vlogger on the Tube, good quality honest reviews and detail, not like the many 4-10 mins rushed reviews that are around !!!!... thanks for you dedication and hard work !!!!
Very kind of you Glenn - appreciate your support!
I have to agree, you are my favourite Bike reviewer 👍🏻 I hope you can still get your helmet on after all these nice comments lol
Now you have started reviewing Kawasaki, can you review the s1000sx touring model if you get a chance please
Great review, safe riding buddy
Another great video as always. I love your balanced views on all the bikes you manage to ride. Really hoping to see you do a review of the VFR800F.
Stay tuned!
Excellent as Always :)
...After missing the 899, and delaying my decision on the 959...
this maybe the new kit for me in 2018,
Have a great Holiday season &
RSMF
Cheers, same to you DD, and great to hear from you again - it's been a while!
Great review, liked this model since introduced. That exhaust design appeals slightly more than the 959 offering
Just recently purchased a 2019 SuperSport, and I absolutely love the SuperSport series. Haven’t rode in six years, and that bike made me feel right at home after that time. Always wanted a Ducati as well, and I can’t recommend it enough, either of the years.
Great review... Nice, direct and a bit shorter than the others. Top work!
Enjoyed this I have a 1200 monster s but gonna look at these next year. Well done TMF
Brilliant lovely looking bike love the front lights, great review Flyer as usual 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
A great video/vlog TMF. You continue to produce high quality work. As for the bike I wouldn't touch it with the proverbial barge pole. Keep up the brilliant work Sir. Ride well & respect to you.
+Gabriel Johannson Not your cup of tea then eh? Thanks for the kind words - TMF
Great review as always, I like similar motorcycles as you do and I have to say that one bike i fell in love is Multistrada 950s - what a surprise for me :)
950s rather than 1260 then... would be interested to know why? Am currently deciding...1260 in low power seems nicer than 950 if need be
@@benjamincs1 you are totally right - thanks to higher torque of 1260 it is smoother in low revs, but from my experience, Ducati bikes love to run in higher revs :) at 950s I can use even 5th on normal roads gear and not drive like a lunatic. 1260 is build for much higher speed. If you love driving really fast, ten go for 1260. If you want to enjoy more potencial of the bike, ten 950s - my experience :)
I just bought a 2019 939 Supersport non S model, with only 2159 km on it. and it has the back seat cover, I bought it after only looking at pictures and seeing a video of it running. I made an offer online and had it delivered the next day, when they pulled it out of the van my first reaction was wow this is a beautiful looking machine. it looked like new like it just came off the showroom floor. and when I road it for the first time my first impression was that it was even better than I was hoping for. and the second time I road it I fell in love with it. I love the seat hight. I love the stable confident inspiring handling. the way it holds lines around the sweeping turns. the sound of the stock pipes, the power delivery. the only negative is the shaking mirrors, and the engine heat. and I live in a very hot place. but I have tested many bikes. and owned a few in my life. and this is my favorite bike I have every owned. it is so sweet, every time I look at it I drool. I bought the gps tracker with the link on your channel. but I haven't received it yet. I hope when I get it that it works as good as I'm expecting it too.
Great Review! i do like your videos. i'm still undecided between this and the 959 panigale as my next bike when i want to trade in my street triple!
Panigale is the way to go!
Looks like a beautiful and comfortable bike. Thanks again for the informative review
You’re welcome!
Great balanced review, I have this same S bike in red too and love it, it has everything I need, looks, power, acceleration is awesome and is very comfortable indeed.
+ChuckNinja Kawasaki Glad we concur! Thanks for watching - TMF
How reliable has the bike been
@@ajmotovideos6779 I’ve had mine coming up to 4 years and it’s been a 2nd bike only as I also ride an 850GS so the mileage is still low around 7k. Just had the one issue whereby the fuel sender failed, it was replaced by Ducati Manchester. My bike has FDSH too and looks the biz in Ducati red, I love riding it in warm sunny weather.
@@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214 thanks for the reply. I'm looking at getting one soon just worried about reliability but from what I've read and heard in forums they seem for the most part rather reliable, nothing like the old Ducatis
You're not the only one to complain about the mirrors, in fact just about every video I've watched on this bike says they vibrate/buzzs quite badly at almost all speeds. (perhaps they buzz so much they loosen the bolts off a bit?)
As mentioned by many, this needed a few things to really hit the mark, namely cruise control, heated grips and a lower price.
Great video as always.
Try injecting spray foam into the mirror housing. When it expands & dries, trim off the excess.
So many great bikes out. I want them all. Good review
+Paul Jones Me too!
Always a nice review, had a 1990 900 SS once so I am really interested in this bike. But I will put a coin that they will come out with a bigger Supersport soon. Hopefully with XDiavel engine in it, they can´t miss that niche.
+kenneth61 :0)
Great bike great review, I always enjoy your reviews, they are very informative, remind me of the old style TopGear reviews, in a good way.
Have you considered reviewing older bikes, classics and Icon bikes, bikes possibly we consider as second bikes.
I was thinking of the old Ducati SS750/900, Yamaha 850TRX or Suzuki TL1000.
Keep up the great work.
Ah, William Woollard....my hero!
Cracking video as always TMD, I can’t decide if she’s for me or not, its nice but not stunning, like your Ducati, the sort of add on screen, low spec engine, dash, mmm, makes me think 7/10 not wow, I want to seek my two bikes and a kidney to get one, as it’s beautiful.
TMZ you have sold it to me found a stunner with lots of carbon and ackrapovic exhausts and in red get mine on Monday appreciate your informative videos all done from a average riders perspective thanks again
Congratulations!
Hi Andy. Based on your review of this bike, I ordered the Ducati SuperSport S. I get it in a few weeks. Great review.
Congratulations! Enjoy the bike....
I actually test rode this bike right before my superduke and really liked it. The mirrors still vibrate a fair bit even when done up properly though. A little too leaned over for me but if you were used to a sports bike very comfy.
+Lukeyd77 Sure is! Thanks for watching - TMF
As always
An awesome review mr
Thank you...
I'm looking to get a sports tourer and obviously have considerd the Ninja 1000SX but my thoughts are turning more and more towards the Ducati. Your review is very useful, as always. Thanks
Glad to help - thanks for watching!
Interesting (but good as always) review TMF,not sure if this bike is a Sports Tourer as such,to me its an everyday Sports Bike for those that find Panigales etc a tad too extreme.Agreed on it being priced a bit too much imo but as you say that's what comes with the brand.As a VFR owner I admit I'm wavering a bit,maybe next year as more come on the second hand market I might see if I can save a few ££££'s,look forward to your forthcoming video's thanks.
Your review and salesmen, pitch did the job, I have now decided I want one , Mr Flyer ,,, how you fixed for a loan ? Of around 12795 , cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
Nice. Like it. Seen pics with the semi rigid panniers. Looks daft. 10inches of snow here bikes hibernating till April. Getting the skis waxed.
+hudsonrilke Oh dear - I hate the idea of having my bikes hibernating....
Bravo! Ducati back in the mix. Good man and great review... as per usual. Have you ridden a Monster?
Thank you - and no I've not ridden a monster (yet!)....
Top notch, as always sir....
+tom peabody Cheers Tom
I'l glad you liked It. It's an awesome bike!
Nice review and never considered the Supersport since I'm leaving the sportbike scene after many years and many Ducatis and some Hondas later. However, I have great memories of my 01 900 Supersport and certainly, the new Supersport is a vast upgrade and I like what I see. I really like the modified riding position, but yet the bike has sportbike features and suspension, which is important. As I got older, the harder it was to stay on a sportbike more than 2 to 3 hours without feeling pain here and there, now I'm thinking the new Supersport should have much better comfort range. It might even be possible to slap on some panniers and do a decent overnight road trip. Your review now has me thinking the Supersport just might be the best real world option of staying connected to sportbike performance with some riding creature comforts.
Give one a try!
I own this bike and it’s even better with the Ackro system at the back - blue flames and everything! Sounds like a burbling twin then, much better 🤩 - plus no space for a pillion, win!
Laramoto but it cost $3000. Wish it was cheaper
Stunning looking bike.
At 50 years old, I asked the wife if she fancies learning to ridw motorcycles with me. I was expecting a big NO ... instead, she said, "I want a Ducati."
I think this is definitely my future bike when we get round to learning.
Do it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer you're talking me into it.
Nice look’n bike and another good review
+Norrie Masson Cheers as ever Norrie...
I've done about 600 miles or so on the SuperSportS and loved it. The mirrors are rubbish, not sure tightening them would help. I did find you needed to be pretty positive with the quick shifter when really on it especially when changing up beyond 4th, quite a few neutrals which I never got on the 959. In fact if you ride this and the 959 back to back you do notice why the 959 is more money but I guess they are two propositions. Mighty comfy as you say and you can do a good 200 miles in a day no problem on the twisties.
Totally agree if you've only got one bike it's a great option, looks good and the down blipper sounds great in the lower gears, pop pop!
Nice one Toby - cheers....
Hi MrF. Great start to a Monday morning and what a lovely bike. I’m quite taken by this one and will definitely get down to Toulouse for a test ride. Speedo vibrates violently at +4000rpm though 😉. Have a great week.
Nothing´s perfect is it Steve ,0) ....and you too....
I noticed the 'issue' with the Speedo too. I have seen a couple of your other videos with speedos that were obviously over-reading 😉
First time in 7years seeing my old neighborhood, just made me wanna come back home. Definitely visiting that shop for my bike.
SO where are you now Malcolm?
NY...Never had UK license but I have a full US LICENCE and moving back home next summer, looking at what bike to get in the UK and how to smoothly change my license to the UK. Been watching your videos at least twice a day...love it!!!
A man of great taste clearly!
Great review 👍
+Adam Bainbridge Great comment :0)
Top review as always TMF! I think the price tag is too high compared with the competition.....VFR800, Z1000s etc. Lovely bike though!
+Rick Deckard Yeah maybe, this is a premium brand though and you’re paying to get into that I guess....
Could u possibly get lower clipons as I would be interested in purchasing this bike however I sat on it and for me it's too upright. Nothing stupidly low but just a bit lower
Ahhhh the review I've been waiting for from you. So the engine heat isn't an issue like has been purported by so many other reviewers?
+kiwi-on-a-bike 660 Well I didn’t notice it but then I’m used to my Panigale!
I had a try on one of these a few months back, loved it, very east to ride, but still great fun & fast enough for me. Only thing that put me off was the heat cumming from the left side of the engine, noticeably when stopped at traffic lights. Not sure I can live with this as an "all rounder"
If you think this is warm, try a Panigale!! :0) Actually the heat is a positive boon in the UK climate!
Sounds like an old cg125 lol.
Great looking bike.
Good work TMF
Thanks for this video, on another review I saw they mentioned vibrating from the engine in low revs, did you experience this?
Do t recall….sorry!
Nice bike, read somewhere that PCP deals on the S model are only around 20-30 a month more for all that suspension lovelyness! Worth spending more if you can. Are you off to the NEC?
Ohhh, I like the pointed nose, looks like a nurse shark and like the front mud guard (if that's what they are called) and the way the side panels blend into the tank. What a Beauty. Very stylish indeed. Cheers TMF.
+Gregory Peck Cheers for watching Greg...
Fantastic looking bike! And a great review, as usual. Thank you sir! A quick suggestion: Consider changing up your image stabilization settings for your walk around part a bit. Premiere tends to create this constant stutter-y zoom in - zoom out effect that can be distracting. Not a criticism, just a suggestion.
+garphield If only I used Premiere! (Sadly my editing suite is not that sophisticated)....
In that case I'd highly recommend upgrading - you can get Premiere off adobe for a very reasonable monthly fee. With the amount of video content you're creating I reckon you'd be getting more than your money worth in expanded options and ease of use. Maybe worth trying it for a month to see if you like it? I work in film and TV postproduction, an intuitive and good editing suite is invaluable.
First class review Sir. How do you think it would be regarding pillion comfort?
Hmm, good question, my guess is not the best pillion perch......but I don´t actually know....
Thanks for the review
No problem 👍
Oh no another bike I'm lusting over!!!
Sorry!
A bit late to notice, but the screws holding the fearing together are not visible.
My mate has recently picked up an S with a full Akrapovic system. It sounds incredible....
smoother too
Sometimes you ref to metric system and sometimes you ref to imperial.
Please mention both
Lovely looking bike. I sat on a Ducati for the first time a few weeks back, on a monster 797, and that’s definitely on my short list for a first big bike after passing my test. Hope you test that one and the new (updated) 821 monster which was released last week.
+Richard Collins I’m hoping so too! You sure it makes sense for a first bike??
TheMissendenFlyer it’s the entry level Ducati apparently. The dealer said it would be good first big bike, though the Corsa line would be too much for a beginner.
Great review MSF, lovely looking bike . I think Ducati haven't got it quite right calling it a sports tourer mind . Small petrol tank , no pannier or top box mounting points , compared to the opposition ( Honda VFR Kawasaki Z 1000 etc )
What are the service intervals on the bike ?
Thanks BOB
Bob Atwell he said, every 9k
Ducati actually call it a sport-road bike and it`s not a placement to the old ST line so you are right it`s not a proper sport tourer and even with the available semi rigid panniers it`s leaning more toward the sporty side of touring.Basic oil service is at 15,000 km or 12 months and valve clearance at 30.000 km
Not really a tourer - but I think it looks like a genuine "GT" in the sense of fast longer distance express. Hotel at every night stop of your journey rather than campsite, and not much luggage, it'd be fun and relatively comfortable (noted exhaust heat issue aside) even if you needed frequent fuel stops.
Ducati sports tourer - you keep your hair-gel, sunglasses and condoms beneath the seat....
Exactly my thoughts Bob. I mean they named it Supersport and that's definitely not what she is and sportstourer.. I also think that's not what it is.
I loved the old ST3s and that was a sportstourer. But now, no cruise control, no heated grips and all the other things u mentioned.
Bought my SSS in March 2019. Best first big bike in my opinion. 60hp in urban mode. 112hp in sport mode. Beautifully balanced and great around town. I ride it 7 days, rain or shine. Mirrors you can replace as a recall from the dealer. I’ve done 3500 miles in 4 months, commuting around London and small trips out of town. If you’re a big boy and act responsibly, this will be a great first big, new bike. The screen at the front is adjustable. Suspension front and back is adjustable. 16 litre tank, riding in town, gives you 170 miles of range.
does this bike has the same heating issue like ducatis ... because i havent bought ducati for this specific reason only... but if you havent come acrooss any reason.. then i might just go and buy it !!
Aniket Rana evevry bike is toasty between the legs once it heats up. This one , the heat is very well managed. Two fans try to keep the temperature down and kick in at 100+ to bring back down below 100. This is ONLY in standing traffic. On the road you do not notice any heat. I managed to keep the temperature down to as low as 77-78 degrees going 70mph on a motorway.
@@gambarinho tysm for taking out the time to reply sir
Highly appreciate it.. guess i know what am gonna buy as a supersport
aniket rana give me a shout when you are around Ace Cafe, I live close. If I won’t be looking after my boy, I’ll be able to swing by in a minute
I want one lol. Only thing that worries me is dropping it. Ducati body work is extremely expensive lol
Thank you for the informative review. Please don't kid yourself about the shaking mirrors being specific to the sample you rode. The one I rode did the same thing, and I've watched many UA-cam videos of people riding and reviewing the new Supersport and the mirrors are blurring the images in every case. Ducati has, IMHO, always considered mirrors to be a necessary evil in order to meet safety laws as reflected in the lack of usability in so many of Ducati's sports models historically. The unfortunate thing with this model is that you can't get rid of the factory mirrors in favor of bar-end mirrors or something else because they also house the turn signals. I'm hoping they will address this issue in the new model year, but somehow I doubt they will. Great bike otherwise. Thanks again, and ride safe!
Cheers Dean
I can only afford one bike so need tonise for commuting. Going to trade tiger in and really like the look of this. Am I insane? Or could this work as a do it all machine? (Only been riding 2 years so be kind in replies 😆)
Hey, great vid as usual. What would you say this bike competes with? Seems sportier than the VFRs of this world but softer than an R6 etc. Seems to be its own niche?
Yeah agreed....
An R6 is not a sports tourer....
Great review, I noticed your speedo seems to get blurred every so often hehe.
+Andrew James Photography :0)
How is it compare to Z1000SX? Many thanks.
I prefer the Kawasaki....
I am on an A2 license at the mo' and the fact I want to go through the stress of Mod 1 and Mod 2 again to get one means it's probably the right decision! 😊
Great bike with all the good and not so good Italian points. The sport road tag fits well. They do require more servicing, is it still every 2 years for the belts? Love the videos, stay safe use a lay-by!
+Trevor Ford Hehe, that road wasn’t as busy as I made it sound....
Only takes one idiot on the phone.
First ? Wow you are back with Ducati reviews, good to see !
Yep, took me a while but thanks to those nice people in Abingdon (and now Ducati themselves) I have Access to Ducati bikes to review - stand by for lots more to come!
TheMissendenFlyer Awesome, eagerly awaiting you to get a leg over one of the V4's :-)
That would be nice - but something tells me there will be a long queue for that one before they let a lowly you tube vlogger like me loose on one!
Crazy question. Would this SS 950 S 'scratch the itch' of say a Streetfighter V2? Does the lower power/torque make it feel less?
No not really - ample power for the road…
Great Review MSF. Love the looks of that and all Ducati's for that matter, but its not the bike for me. I'm looking for a Sports Tourer to commute on year round and tour once or twice in summer. One year after passing DAS, Question is do I go Ducati's accessible sports tourer the Multistrada 950 or old school with the VFR800F. How about a back to back test old school ST vrs Modern Adventure Tourer. it would be Interesting to know why VFR's et al have gone out of fashion nowadays.
I have a MTS 950 in the garage at the moment :0) ....I've never ridden a VFR, but love the looks of them....one day!
Sounds good, looking forward to your review of the MTS950 already. :-) I'll stick around while you get on with it.
Good man!
I just came across one of these second hand with very low miles I'm not sure if its the S but it does have the painted plastic cover over the back seat. so I had to check out a review because I know nothing about it. can you upgrade the mirrors ? how is the dependability ? did you buy one ? I also came across a BMW S1000R for a similar price just a little more, with really low miles. do you know about the BMW and how they compare ? thanks
The BMW is the one I’d go for - much more aggressive than the Ducati
Nice bike other than the balloon on a string offside mirror.
I had an old 750SS with gold frame and wheels, this one's lovely but the gold would make it.
I was a tad disappointed with the Supersport, same engine as the Hyper which I used to own and no cruise control or LED headlight option.
Any plans on reviewing or trying out the new one? I just bought a new 950S to go alongside my Speed Twin; quite impressed. The new TFT is fantastic, and the IMU with cornering ABS is great peace of mind... I also think the new fairings and Panigale-esque features are appropriate. They seem to have moved away from the 'sport touring' angle (the words aren't in the motorcycle's description on the Ducati site). I plan to ride the 950s all year, provided there isn't snow or ice on the ground - the extra safety features over the Speed Twin make it likely the safer choice for the wet stuff!
No plans Daniel but I’d certainly like a go….hopefully at some point I will.
I would like to see your review of the 950S SS! That would be well worth watching! Thanks for this review and all of your hard work.
I really like the looks and if I was after an all-around sportbike, that'd be on the list to check out. The mirrors were almost laughable though watching them quiver. Maybe you scared them? lol.
Maybe - they were in need of a tighten for some reason - it was just this bike (that's not a general issue, at least not to that extent)....
Great review 😍🏍😍🏍😍🏍😍🏍😍🏍😍🏍😍🏍😍🏍😍🏍😍
Walk round on a clear way ?
Kinda reminds me of the Ninja 650 . But that just over 6k! Wonder how it compares apart from obvious BHP difference.
Indeed.....
I have a euro size 43 shoe and i bumped up against the pillion pegs quite ofen when i was riding just me ? Also yes i agree , the mirrors are horrible . Allthough it was very nice low and midrange torque i miss a bit of a boost up top , this would have been an epic machine of they got it to 130-140 BHP
Trouble is it would then be knocking on the door of the 959 I suspect....
Nice and neutral review. If you could own one bike only, and you had to choose between this, the 899 and the 959, which of the three would you choose?
899 no question.....
899 no question.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Have you tried the 959?
never said nothing about wind protection...
was hoping to hear how much do you get on your body and is there any head buffeting
You sure? I normally mention it...
For a first rider with potential of having intermediary skills, which out of the two would you choose as a good first bike (Ducati Supersport S or BMW R Nine T Rac) and would that one be compatible be with the Harley Davidson Roadster as a second bike that not only harbors cruiser qualities, but it's definitely a reliable bike that's toned down for the "Mondays" that you need a bike, while you have something just as fun as one of the two first bikes, but more of a deeper, old-school torquier way?
Personally I wouldn’t choose any of those as a first bike - my advice would be buy a second hand 600cc and learn your craft for 6 months, then move on to the expensive exotic stuff...sorry that’s not what you wanted to hear!
I greatly appreciate your honesty, sir. Ok, then what about the Ducati Scrambler cafe racer which is 803cc, 75 hp, and 50 lbs ft; would that be a pretty good bike to l\earn on while also having the hD Roadster on the side (I feel that I have to get tht one too.)?
Will there be a HP4 Race review? I heard there is only 1 that exist in my country.
I doubt it very much!
Looks like a decent bike albeit poor mirrors would be enough for me to genuinely spend my money elsewhere.
Inexcusable at this price point.
Thanks for another great review.
Thabk you for watching!
Was it as hot as the panigale under the seat and leg area
great review once again. I have my eye on one of these. I doo ride a multi 950 and would like the tmf to do a review on one of those
+Darsey no 1 It so happens I have one in my garage at the moment! Stay tuned!
Great review,can you review a Kawasaki z900 sir?
I hope too Sudeep......
Borrowed one when my 1299 was in for service. Did nearly 200 miles before I took it back. On twisty B roads , miles more fun than the pani. No aches or pains either. 1 80 mile tank on the 1299 and my shoulders where killing . Quick phone call. Deal done in 15 minutes. Love it. As much fun without without the pain. Honestly don't miss the old bike at all. Really enjoyed the video aswell.
Sounds like a good move!
I love v twins & have always fancied a duke but I'm sure ktm will be the next route I take .
+MrTrek164 Fair enough!
I was gob smacked that the super sport was more comfortable than my z1000sx really comfy and handled well. Needs 160bhp and I’d buy it. Mirrors were atrocious - had to pull clutch in to use them, should fix that
Rubbish!! It is nowhere near as comfy as the Kawi!!!
Those bars are driving me nuts. It looks as if the left grip is about to fall off. Either that or the bar is longer than the right bar. Or it's a Chinese illusion.
I'd like it a lot better in yellow. Not a fan of frames painted the color of the fairing. Black is sufficient.
Did you see the new liter Duc Scramblers? Very very nice. Demo time!
...actually I missed those - will check 'em out!
Simply a great bike..