Ok but I hate that “Friendship is the answer to all problems” because they do it in sooo many movies and shows. In the first Hocus Pocus they outsmarted the witches and personally that’s more entertaining
What I found unusual is that she tells him to be nicer but she literally pretends to cast a spell on him earlier in the movie by listing vegan food. You cannot convince me that she didn’t know what she was doing there.
Winifred felt so out of character in the sequel. What made her so compelling in the first film was that she was unabashedly evil. She didn't care for her sisters. She only cared for how she can use her sisters in order to obtain the children's youth (by using Mary's hightened sense of smell & Sarah's singing voice). In the sequel, she all of a sudden makes the realization that her sisters were the most important thing to her, but in reality she couldn't care less what happens to them if it means achieving her own ambition. For example, in the first film, Max drinks the life potion and thus, sacrifices himself for his sister. Winifred takes him and tells him, "what a fool to give thy life for thy sister." Winifred can't comprehend why someone would be willing to sacrifice themselves for their sister. She would never make such a decision.
Lmao the sheep liking yiur comment. I hated that random patriarchal line. But Winifred loved her sisters first one. If yiu gonna critique, please critique that makes sense
Anyone else questioned the whole “Winnie loves her sisters” angle? She even calls Max a fool for sacrificing his life for his sister. But In this one she’s suddenly all about family.
That one old woman that leaves her house, sees child Winnie stomp past her, and just turns around saying, "I have seen enough today," is the most relatable character I've ever seen on screen before.
I must say, they picked younger versions of the Sanderson Sisters flawlessly. The younger version of Winnie especially looked a lot like Bette Midler. I wish that Hannah Waddingham had been given more to do.
Sounds really stupid but umm I didn’t know they were different, I didn’t really think that the first was 20 years old so the actors would be also 20 years older. So I’m stupid
The beginning of the movie gave me so much hope. Those kid actors for the sisters were so good. Apart from that, the only part of the movie I liked was when they went inside the Walgreens.
The first Hocus Pocus had the base premise of a horror story (witches wanted to effectively kill all the children in salem to extend their lives) painted as family movie with dash of comedy. The sequel was a $5 kids special in the same category as the spooky buddies.
There's little originality anymore. The only soul they have is the original name. They use it to make quick money and inject their dumb ideologies into it. Actual important things like the quality of the writing take a back seat. I refuse to watch any modern remakes or sequels.
Would have been a good sequel if they had made the witches come back to get revenge on the children of the teenage guy and girl (max and Alison I think) who killed them in the first movie and continued on the storyline. They didn’t even have to use the actors, just people who looked similar to play them as older characters.
Yup, this movie tried to undo the fact that they were REAL witches. As in Witchcraft, as in trying to summon power from Satan. In the first one they literally say they got the spell book from Satan. In this movie they almost tried to spin it as witches are the good people… but then they realized it was already established in the first one that the witches were bad and ate people… so the whole plot was contradicting
Felt like they tried to go the sympathetic route with the witches in this movie and couldn't decide if they wanted to make them fun classic villains, or make them redeemable babies who were simply misunderstood. What made them so fun in the first movie was how evil they were. They sold their souls, worshipped satan, and even at the end Winnie mocks Max for sacrificing his own life for his sister's, content to be the only one to eat his soul while her sisters were preoccupied with the others. The caring sister route they went with in the second film felt like they were trying too hard to "defang" her. Couple that with the continuity errors like them not knowing salt is their weakness in the sequel, and I'd rate 3 or 4/10
Fun fact: the black flame candle is made from the fat of a hangman, so does that mean the dude hung a guy and used his fat to bring back 3 random witches he didn't even know?
As a kid in the 90s, Hocus Pocus was the halloween movie that really stuck with me growing up. It's one of my all time favorite movies and I still watch it every year, almost 30 years later. And I was ECSTATIC when I first found out they were finally making another with the original cast (Bette, Kathy, SJP). After watching Hocus Pocus 2, I was rather disappointed. I disliked how disney cranked up the kiddy-ness - the book was given Winnie by the devil himself, not some random-no-name-1-scene-only witch in the woods. It's literally bound in human skin. And the book having moral objections to a spell in its OWN pages? What?! Why?! I also disliked how it was turned into a borderline musical. There was one(1) song in the original and that was only when it was plot appropriate, as the song was really a spell to distract all the adults. And lastly, the whole "the real magic was friendship all along" thing was... ughh... Anyways, sorry for the rant. Good video, Alex. lmaooo
Thank you! Honestly, youre the only person I've seen so far talk about how the book was given by the Devil himself. I say -HIMSELF- because he clearly presented himself to the Sisters in the form of a man, otherwise, why would they mistake the older man as their "Master" in the Original. This movie was an absolute cringe fest of bad writing and poor characters. Unforgivable
@@Tfffueant Agreed. In the original, it did have a connection to Winifred. Almost like a Pet to its owner. That didn't bother me. She did sell her soul for the book. But, in this movie they went and gave the book a consciences, like it knew right from wrong. Bruh, wut? It's a fuckin book made outta human skin. Damn thing has no duty trying to "do the right thing".
And then none of it was even creepy! The first had legitimate creepy moments. The hanging, trying to eat kids souls, turning a kid into a cat, being burned alive.
Here’s my breakdown Pros: - The young girls who played the Sanderson Sisters did a great job, I liked the whole beginning with them. I probably would have liked a prequel more. - It’s just great to see the Sanderson Sisters and Billy Butcherson back - I enjoyed Tony Hale as the mayor, he just has a great comedic presence - The Walgreens scene was pretty damn funny Cons: - The new characters were so boring! I didn’t see any kind of good backstory or develop any bond with them. In the original, we see Max is a fish out of water moving to a new town, trying to act cocky and it backfiring with him giving his number to Allison, getting his shoes stolen by the bullies, learning to be a better big brother, and then sacrificing himself for his sister…and getting his shoes back. That is GROWTH. I didn’t feel any of that from the new cast. We know three girls used to be friends, but one they pretty much ghost because she got a boyfriend…super deep. - I didn’t like that the Sanderson Sisters weren’t really evil at all anymore. The original movie, they literally killed a girl in the first ten minutes, talked about killing/eating children, were ecstatic to hang out with the guy they thought was Satan (they literally call him Master), Sarah screams when that little angel says “bless you”, they put a curse on the parents to make them dance until they literally die (not just dance to find a guy like in the sequel), Billy says “go to Hell” and Winifred says “I’ve been there and I found it quite lovely”, and the end where there’s some sympathy for losing her sisters (in the first movie Winifred tell Max he’s a fool for giving up his life for his sisters). They were fun but actually evil and wouldn’t stop at anything to kill those children of Salem. - Why were the sisters surprised at the salt?? That was already established in the first movie. - I honestly felt like there was no urgency or risk in this movie. The first one, the witches kept repeating how they only had until sunrise, and the kids were trying different ways to kill them or stall for time. This one they just put a circle of salt around them and peaced out. The first movie they kill Emily so we saw that they meant business. This movie just felt like funny bits and nothing on the line.
I feel the same way about the sisters not being as evil as the first movie! The Winifred from the first movie would have definitely sacrificed her sisters to become all powerful and live forever! The whole “oh I don’t want this power if that means I have to live without my sisters” thing really blew it for me. I hated the ending.
@@BelladonnaJojo The way I always heard the line “what a fool to give up thy life, for thy sisters” really sounded like “I would never give up my life for my sisters”. She always came across as selfish and only caring about herself and using her sisters when she needed something from them. Even at the end of the first movie, her sisters blow up in the sky and she doesn’t care, she is trying the suck Maxs life out and the last thing she yells when she realizes she’s going to die is “book”. So the sequel seemed off brand for her character
@@megaearthlover Yeah honestly I did like the sequel overall, but that ending with little risk and the sympathy grab just felt wrong and soured the ending
I'm so tired of Disney ruining their villains. For ten years they won't let their villains be villains. Villains make the heroes. If heroes didn't have a villain to overcome they'd be useless.
But they are villains; they still would have sucked the lives out of the children's lives if they didn't believe the all-power spell wouldn't save them time. They still wanted to take over Salem and possibly more.
I recommend you read the hocus pocus 2 book! It’s nothing like this movie- it’s told from the perspective of Allison and Max’s daughter, and our “mean girl not a part of the friend group” character is actually the daughter of one of the bullies from the original Hocus Pocus! 10/10 recommend 😊
I hated the whole "bullying" thing because if anything the girls were the bullies trying terrorize the Guy by mocking Him and pretending to cast spells when they KNOW it disturbs him. And the guy seems really slow, and it felt like they were making of Him because He's slow and doesn't like witch Craft, they didn't even give the guy a chance they were like "No Cassie you can't have other friends."
I thought the exact same thing! Becca was my least favorite character in the entire movie because she seems like she denies the fact that she does/likes witchcraft the entire movie up until her friend sees her powers. Like girl you go to a magic shop on a regular basis, do a ritual every Halloween but deny it every time someone asks you if you practice witchcraft? Like it just doesn’t make sense to me. I’m a beginner witch myself I like going to magic stores and I practice light rituals and if someone asks about I don’t deny and nobody calls me weird or anything. You would think for a girl like Becca that lives in a town that embraces witchcraft she would too
Honestly, I'd rather see a Hocus Pocus prequel with the three young Sanderson Sisters from the beginning of the film coming into their own with witch magic than a Hocus Pocus 3 where the three girls from this film start using Book in their own lives. I thought the young girls at the start of the movie did a pretty solid job capturing their adult counterparts' quirks and whatnot. Sure, there is the Black Candle Number 3 back at the magic shop/the sisters' old home which hints at them returning AGAIN. Also, my guess is Billy and Sarah started 'messing around' when they were older because Billy seems to have been killed as a grown adult as opposed to his teen self at the start of this film considering his corpse/zombie form is seemingly that of an adult man.
I'd love that too, though with better actors/directing than the girls in this movie. Sadly, though, we'll never get that because to show the young Sanderson sisters, you'd eventually have to show them kidnapping children and killing them to suck their life force out, and Disney would never. Plus, not sure how much activity they'd have in the sleepy town of Salem in the 1650s. They were kind of banished so other than them terrorizing here and there, not sure what the plot of such a movie or series would be. Also, it's kind of implied that Mary and Sarah didn't have much power in this latest movie until the very end. I never got that impression in the first movie. We might not see them using force lightning like Winnie does, but I always thought they were meant to be equally powerful in their own right. If we're following along with this latest movie, though, the only power that Mary ever came into is her ability to smell out children and all Sarah can do is lure said children to their doom. What we'd need is for the sister's powers to be reinterpreted. While Winnie would definitely have the most active powers, Mary could have the power to find things or know things about others. I don't know if resourcefulness is a power, but it's something to go off of. Sarah would be much more interesting to reinterpret as her power to lure children could be considered the power of persuasion. But of course to stay true to the characters, Sarah's power would be contained within a ditzy vessel that doesn't wield it for anything other than Winnie's bidding - aside from maybe seducing Billy Butcherson.
Would have been a good sequel if they had made the witches come back to get revenge on the children of the teenage guy and girl (max and Alison I think) who killed them in the first movie and continued on the storyline. They didn’t even have to use the actors, just people who looked similar to play them as older characters.
@@azura-moonstar So the movie opens up in 1653. We don't have exact population data for Salem at this time, but it's important to note that there are two distinct entities that comprised "Salem", those being Salem Village and Salem Town, and they were about 7 miles apart from each other, so not an easy walk. The village was a parish of the town, though, and the events that kick off the witch trials started in the village which only had about 500 people in 1692 compared to the 1400 in the town. This would have been even less 40 years prior when the opening of the movie takes place. Looking at the opening scene's setup, it's clear that the more rural village is being represented rather than the much more organized port town. The town and the village were noted to be quarrelsome with each other, but it was mostly in regards to land boundaries, grazing rights and church politics, not something that would be terribly interesting to see 3 young banished witches getting involved in, especially since they can't enter sacred spaces such as a church. If we wanted to look at their messing with the trials, they'd have to be played by the original 3 actors, presumably similar to how they appeared in the opening act of the first movie (old and greying) because the trials happened in 1692 and they were put to death on Halloween in 1693 according to the original movie. So other than land disputes, farming and church politics, not much happened in Salem until the reverend Parris' daughter and niece started acting out in February 1692. Shoot, Billy Butcherson didn't even get poisoned until May 1693 according to his headstone in the movie, which would have made him in his 50s if he was a teen in 1653. I'd always assumed that his murder had happened when Sarah appeared younger and had attracted a younger guy. Now that I think of it, it's really strange to have included young Billy in the opening of the new movie because that makes him really old (for the time) and he would've known something was up if young looking Sarah Sanderson starting hitting him up when they're both supposed to be old.
I think the joke with Winnifred calling Billy her lover (but he is actually Sarah's lover) is that when Winnifred and Billy were teenagers, they kissed once, and later when the Sanderson Sisters and Billy were adults (and Sisters were already feared witches), Sarah and Billy had a serious romantic relationship, which was likely secret given the fact that the Sisters were exiled witches. Winnifred was still in love with Billy (presumably, that kiss being the closest she ever came to romance in her life), and she still had him "claimed" in her mind. She found out about Sarah and Billy, and killed him out of jealousy. So it is even pettier than she was mad that her sister was with a guy she kissed a few months ago. She was mad that her sister was with a guy she kissed 10+ years ago. Seems very in-character, to me.
Same, they should have their home in the woods where they are fearsome witches, but sadly everyone thinks about Salem Witch Trials more today sure there was innocent women and few men did died in those trials, but they literally sold their souls to the Devil like seriously, where the original cast, there would make the movie 10 times better, helping the new cast out to defeat the Sanderson Sisters.
But the thing is they don't even explain this in the movie lmao, if you haven't seen the first one in a long time like me, you literally have no idea what's going on there. Also in the first movie it's implied that Billy cheated on Winnie with Sarah, and since none of them ever deny that one would assume it's actually what happened
The first Hocus Pocus came out the year I was born, so I've literally seen at least once a year since I can remember and it still holds up. I think one of the reasons its so rewatchable is because it's not really a kid movie, it's kid friendly with adult themes kids don't catch until we get older. This second one is definitely a Disney generation sensitive production that is made for kids. It was alright but it just didn't hit the same.
I agree! Especially with the lack of actual tension or scary stuff in this new one. It was like they were too afraid to put anything scary in the movie smh
Yeah, I agree, made for kids and very coded in nostalgia. It's too sensitive to really put scary stuff in it. I could hardly even remember any character's name in this that wasn't from the original.
Ending was a mess but I still had fun regardless LOL. Things I wish they did: 1. Turn one of the teens into a cat or dog to save us from their acting 2. Use an actual halloween song for the main act on stage 3. Dani (from the first film) should've been the owner of the magic store and she helps them beat the witches at the end. 4. Give the mayor his damn apple he deserves it.
The actress who played Dani wasn't available during filming but totally was down to do the sequel they should of made an exception and filmed her scenes later.
disagree with 2. i think it's such a fun concept to cover classic hits in a spooky halloween style, in turn giving the lyrics a different vibe. i could go for an album of sanderson sister covers tbh.
@@mushlii Dani would've been weird to run the shop. The girl was almost killed by them, I'd think she'd want to distance herself from any thought about them. If anyone would've ran it, it would've been Allison since her mom ran the museum on them, and she was already familiar with them beforehand. But honestly, I can't picture any of the characters staying in Salem as adults, this is a town that openly celebrates the Sandersons as legends. I think Max, Dani, and Allison would all get immediate ptsd if they even saw the costume contest.
Honestly, I was mostly frustrated that the dad never got his apple. I thought for sure they'd use magic in the end to make one or something, but ah well.
@@realdavidjones1623 Oh, so because they do it it was fine. But when the jock does it, that's bad. Even though he was stating FACTS and they just had fun spooking him?
@@realdavidjones1623 Yes it was. Him calling them weird and pointing out their differences is NOT making fun of them. It's doing exactly what he said he was doing. They're just immature crybabies, as evidenced by them allowing a life-long friendship be disrupted because their other friend had more than TWO friends, and the two girls were being total c|_| /\/ Ts about it.
@@a.mp.m7340 Actually, even worse, he's coded as "mentally different" (or whatever people are saying, these days) and they take advantage of his differences.
The first one seemed way darker. Like it opens with a child being murdered and another child being turned into a cat forever. The book is evil and nothing good can come from it and it was given to her by the Devil himself and they explicitly serve Satan. Pretty dark. Now the book is...nice and was given to them by a mother witch and also Billy wasn't anyone's lover I guess because no sex. The original stood out because like it had a bunch of stuff in it that wasn't kid friendly while still being a movie kids would love (I loved it at 4 years old, loved it, it was scary and good). This just seems very - just for tweens and um hope nostalgia makes adults watch it.
Ok, so I know the store owner Gilbert claims he saw the sisters in the graveyard, but how tf would he? All the children in Salem were under the spell at the time, going toward the graveyard in a trance as the witches fought their fate. All while the parents of the kids were ALSO under a spell so they could party all night til they died. The Sisters hadn't lost til sunrise...Gilbert would have never been able to be walking around freely like this unless he had earplugs while trick or treating. Sarah said it was literally her ONE job, and yet she was unable to capture this random boy? This whole movie wouldnt have happened. It's just a wierd insert that took me out of it due to continuity ig.
Gilbert said his candy was stolen so I'd like to think he probably was shaken up and went back to his house while the spell was going on so he didn't hear it. Then decided to go and try trick or treating once more. Either way though, they should've clarified.
The whole movie ruins the origin story first off they became witches by selling their soul to stay young so..how are they witches as kids. They were supposed to be ordinary women who happened to become witches to live forever
You're right! I literally watched the first movie last night and saw the second movie for the first time this very morning and for whatever reason that never once actually dawned on me! Thanks! :)
@@lelelew2735 not once did the original movie confirm they sold their souls? That was only said by Dani to make her "you're evil that makes you ugly" comment sting more. Yes they call the devil master but that can be attributed to them spending 300 years in hell
@@justaperson4656 in order to be a witch and be immortal you would have to its already inclined. If you want to be technical if you end up in hell you sold your soul lol
I’m so annoyed at Disney making literally EVERY plot the same. It’s always about a girl being “quirky and different” and then be so amazing at the end. It’s like the hated child in Gacha life💀
Dost thou not knowest? T’is the Year of Our Lord 2022. It is thy moral imperative to judge all past people and societies through the fickle lens of modernity.
That's not actually true, only Royal people actually got married as children and they never had any kind of relations until they were both adults. It wasn't "normal" back then and it's not normal now.
Apparently, there's a book about the Hocus Pocus Sequel but with Max's and Allison's daughter accidentally freeing the Sanderson sisters like what Max did the in first movie and she, along with her family and friends try to stop them before they resurrect every dead witch in town order to gain immortality. But this sounds like a better story than what we got.
Not only that, but they introduce to us a *4th* Sanderson Sister named Elizabeth, that went down the path of white magic unlike her sisters that devoted themselves to satanism. And, on the plus side for Disney. (knowing them now and days.), there's even some LGBTQ+ representation in there too, with the protag Poppy falling in love with the popular girl at High-school, and we know how Disney wants to represent LGBTQ+ (Not that it's a bad thing ofc.), so not only would they have a good story, but a good story with the thing they want to represent in their movies! Missed opportunity, Disney!
so the family "dates back to the witch trials" but... literally every family that has ever existed after the witch trials dates back at the very least that far
Well, it's more about tracing genealogy, and particularly the establishment of family dynasties and regions where they settled. "Well, we can trace our roots back 300 years, starting with a cobbler in Salem that established his shop, and his wife knitted matching socks. It was popular enough that they were able to grow the business into something that employed a number of extended family members, and one that lasted until the Great Depression, after which the business fell to ruin. My great great grandfather had taken over at that time, but when it was ruined in the Great Depression he resorted to being a shoe shine, and my great great grandmother started the family's traditional dish of bread soaked in celery broth." I don't know why I started inventing a fake family history (and depression styled dish) to that extent, it kind of got away from me. Anyway, that's usually what people mean when they say their family 'dates back to so and so' time.
She meant that her family was present in Salem when the witch trials were happening, it was about a time and location, here´s a funfact: Sarah Jessica Parker´s family actually dates back to the Salem witch trials, another funfact she is married with Matthew Broderick the one who played Ferris Bueller
I remember crying my eyes out at the end of the first one when I was little! Thackery lost his human life trying to save his sister, then loses his cat life trying to save Dani. When he is reunited with his sister at the end, it's an emotional moment. This movie does not have the emotional ark of the first one by any stretch. It tries to shoehorn in a theme of "togetherness" without any of the characters experiencing any real stakes until the last five minutes of the movie! The movie was really missing that storyline of loss that it had with Thackery Binx in the first one.
Hocus Pocus is one of the greatest movies ever made. It was simplistic but yet had a very engaging story! The second was decent, though the main characters were quite boring. The sanderson sisters were brilliant as always!
The main character of the both movies are boring, except the cat, the rest more than being individuals are a combination of what you think a teenager in that time would be
I personally found the protagonists more interesting in the new movie, because they were much more active in driving the story along and were WAY LESS BORING than the original protagonists
I can remember, as a child getting a free sucker whenever we got him pointing to the star on the wrapper of our tootsie pops back then...maybe it was just a local store thing :). Crazy to hear you even mention it!
As someone who's watched friendship is magic I can say that I've never seen anyone else do that message right. In My Little Pony Friendship is magic they pretty much spend every episode SHOWING the friendships between the characters with a lot of complex story telling. Showing their struggles and tough times and how they help each other through it so by the end they really EARN the right to say friendship is magic. It's not just something tagged on at the end like an after thought. In a movie like hocus pocus 2 it feels really cheep because the friendships don't feel real or worth anything.
Sure, FiM did an *okay* job, I say ‘okay’ because they’d spend an episode learning the lesson only for it to be completely forgotten a few episodes later, like Rainbow Dash with the “28 Pranks Later” thing or they could be downright hypocritical: again Rainbow Dash was chastised and humiliated for bragging (rightfully) about her accomplishments while the likes of Applejack and Rarity got off Scot-free for being Lex Luthor-Level Braggarts sometimes 😒😒😒
@@HPFan4Life81 I hope you're talking to that bot, not the person who wrote this comment. Because they literally did/said nothing pathetic at all, and calling them names like that says more about you than it does about them.
Because thats not how it works. People are not evil because they are just evil. Clearly in Hokus Pokus 2 They give them some "sad" bacstrory, while they was more naturally evil/weird and the "sad" bacstory gived the purpose get them they reall evilnes OUT. I don´t think the sisters saw they own bacstory like sad. Winnie was clearli just pissed of they wanted take her sister. Clearly, self centered girl with some ...little morals. In psychological site, it was realistick and well done. You will never see someone who did something just because: Hey it sound like nice idea! There is always some backround. Nice feeling, revenge, despice, anger... Clearly you can just ENJOI making peoples live miserable. Thats a thing to. Bud be Evil just because you are evil. DON´T exist.
@@edgelord143 Jeffrey Dahmer would like to have a word with you, so would many other serial killers with normal upbringings.... And yeah I completely agree, it's a lot more interesting since nearly every half-baked villain ends up with a "redemption arc" nowadays. I don't need a sad backstory to understand why someone's evil, some people are genuinely just evil for no reason.
@@satapon4129 Have you not ever read up into Jeffrey dahmers life? He did NOT have a normal upbringing 🤣 Most serial killers don't which is partly what makes them emotionless to the evil shit they do. People forget that despite these people lacking emotions, they gain in knowledge. Especially how to take the lives of stupid people. Lol
@@satapon4129 Yeah, you can have normal chilhood to be evil. You don´t need sometimes nothing bad. Its sad that all villians in movies etc are without parents and the word was cruel. While, yes, there is in histori peoples like them. Bud we have the other side. How you sayid, you don´t need have sad bacstory, bud you need have a PUSH. And it can be anything. Most of time, the enjoimend of torturing. I think in movies, we need more villias what is sucesful, with nothing wrong then they own taste for blood.
@@thtswutshesaid Bro had a similar childhood to like 10 people I know, I dont think they're all serial killers. On the scale of messed up childhood's that serial killers have had (the most common ones coming from households of horrific abuse) he's very low down. And no, I don't think any serial killer is emotionless to what they do. They take a sadistic and often sexual pleasure in the act of killing, what are you on about?
I think the girl like "having magic" was what took me out of the movie. It felt a little out of left field but sharing the magic with her friends made sense. Like the charmed ones said, power of 3 will set us free.
1.) Sharing power? Cringe subtly annoying feminist messaging. Implying as if men (especially today) have ANY power to share to begin with lol. Do women really just love pretending their oppressed because they're lonely or can't keep a man? That's all it is at this point. All feminist talking point have either been debunked endlessly or non-excuse like merely people's attitudes now. Because women might be criticized (same with men, but we've managed to put up with A LOT of your BS as well, NOT ANYMORE! We're in a new era of gender dynamics, we have no incentives or reason you treat you with any level of kindness or curiosity lol), that magically means women have not rights for some reason even though you can't name me one right a man has that isn't afford to a woman lol. 2.) Don't you DARE ever compare this trash to Charmed!
I recently binge watched the HalloweenTown movies right before watching the Hocus Pocus movies back to back and I kept on feeling like I was watching HalloweenTown again! XD
I fell in LOVE with the first Hocus Pocus. I absolutely LOVED the brother sister duo! But the second one is just a few friends- and one of them is this pretty mayors daughter. I also have this weird obsession with lower old quality movies, I love em:)
The only part I cared for was the end; billy got to rest and book was shown some development. I felt really bad for book and adored his story- despite the fact they left out he was made of human flesh and cursed. This would have been the time to tell us more but no, just let him cry and break my heart. Better than nothing I guess
It's a shame that they threw away the book's backstory. "Crafted of human skin and presented to Winifred by Satan himself" is so much more interesting than "Hannah What's-her-Tits does a cameo after going to the mall for a makeover at Claire's."
@@RussianKitty I could forgive that given people are more open to their practices and it’s still Disney; plus stories get twisted after a time (which they joke about with billy being a lover instead of just a kiss)
Some of it was great and brought me back to the spark of the original and then some of it was just cringy and trying too hard to connect to a younger generation
Well, they didn't seem to emphasize killing young children in this movie very much, which is good. I never liked the original movie for a number of reasons, the main one being that the plot to suck out all the children's youth really disturbed me. I don't mind the animated Disney films being dark, because...well, the "actors" aren't real. But I thought the original HOCUS POCUS was inappropriate for children, or even young teenagers (which I was at the time).
@@SeasideDetective2 And you're part of the problem, that's some snowflakey ass comment you just made. The movie came out when I was born and watched it a couple years later. I never had ANY problem with it when I watched it as a kid. I grew up watching horror and watched FAR worse things than Hocus Pocus; many people agree that that was the best part about the movie, the creepy vibe it had to it. Now because of people like you who complain, shows and movies have gotten soft, and honestly its truly disappointing that these companies bend the knee and listen to you snowflakes.
I mean that is the point of the sequel bring the experience to the CURRENT younger generstion of course itll look different than the first its been 30 years
Y'all, the video ending in that random music was really jarring. I really enjoy him just taking about his personal thought of the shows/movies at the end.
I loved the fact that the child actress for Mary Sanderson got her mannerisms down so perfectly. I was honestly impressed. I thoroughly enjoyed this sequel overall, i think the only complaint i have is that the last 10-15 minutes felt rushed, I feel that Winnie's realisation regarding her sisters just sort of...happened? And she was totally fine with it??? But yeah I friggin loved this, it was entertaining in a typical disney movie fashion.
I feel the same way. I liked the idea of them reacting to the modern world and being surprised. I didn't really like the ending, but for the most part it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
They spend way too much time in Wallgreens and should have left more time for Winnie's character growth. Oh well, product placements very important lol
Honestly wish the movie was more of the younger sisters (Like the present "witches, are learning more and more of what happen to the sisters) would of probably helped with the "I love my sisters" ending if the Sisters backstory would of been more fleshed out
Bette Middler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Najimi saved this movie from being a total bomb (also the three girls they got to play Young Winifred, Sarah and Mary, their acting was spot on). But a good 65% of it was dedicated to the main character (whose name I honestly forgot), her sidekick and their teen drama with the other girl (I only remember her as Mayor’s Daughter). So much of this movie was dedicated to “Friendship is the Real Magic” I thought I’d stumbled across a human-version of FiM! Ultimately if you’re stuck for something to do watch it for Bette Middler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Najimi, just be sure to bring headphones to drown out the repetitive teen drama crap. Thanks for a fun review Alex and go hug your animal friends all 💙🐱💙
Yeah. Literally the only reason anyone saw this was for the sisters. If they had just gone full prequel, spending a bit longer with the kids and then showing us how they became more sinister as they grew to adults, I would have totally been here for that. I feel like that idea was probably on the table at some point and literally just got vetoed because they couldn't come up with a 17th-century song for Bette Midler to sing. But considering they couldn't decide whether they wanted to make the sisters sympathetic or give us the villains we love, having them start a little more sympathetic and showing their spiral into chaos would've been a more logical choice.
Okay but honestly I legitimately cried when Winnifred’s sisters died at the end and then my entire family made fun of me for feeling sympathy for people who ate children.
No bc same, but only bc I feel like the other two sisters could've been genuinely good people if Winnie wasn't a satan worshiping, immoral, b*tch. If they were raised better they probably could've been nice.
Can we take a moment to talk about Gilbert and how the whole story kickstarted? Dude literally wanted to bring back the witches because he thought they would be better people in a different era, even though he was well aware of the lore and how they effectively murdered children.
His story is also a plot hole because at that time all the children of the town would have been under Sarahs spell/trance, thus he should of also been under her spell....
I found it to actually be enjoyable because the sisters still acted how they did back then, so it just really hit that mark perfectly for me. Obviously not the greatest thing, but it’s worth a watch if you just want to relax I guess.
Sarah yeah for sure. Mary seemed extra murdery in this one, though, and that ending where apparently Winnie has some kind of remorse or conscious? Nah. That kind of ruined her character. I honestly thought they were going to go somewhere with the sister's relationship as a whole when Sarah stood up to Winnie and said she's not just an idiot. That honestly would have been a better path for the ending, the sisters turning on each other when they become power hungry, or just Mary and Sarah turning on Winnie for constantly looking down on them... but it went nowhere. Sarah's moment of empowerment and self-respect just got brushed aside in the next line. In the original, i never felt like Mary & Sarah were just sidekicks to Winnie. Sure, Winnie was definitely the lead, but I felt like they were all equal in the whole witch game. This movie really implied that the sisters were nothing without Winnie and that just felt off. I guess they were really trying to sell the ending when Winnie feels like she's nothing without her sisters.
@@blueneptune146 I don't think it's out of character. She's cared for her sister since they were young (shown with the beginning) I just think she didn't want to reveal she cared because she was the leader and oldest of the group and usually they have to be the more mature ones in the family.
I personally think that Hocus Pocus 2 felt rushed. Like they were trying to fit the whole plot and character arc into a 2 hour time frame. At the end I think Winnie turned soft a little too easily, like she went from power crazed lunatic to sweet grandma in 5 minutes.
I thought the same thing watching it. Didn't the first have a moment near the end where she pushed her sisters away when dawn was approaching so she could have Max's sister's soul all to herself?
I mean that's meant to be the point It's a you don't miss it till it's gone kind of thing. She treated her sisters like crap because she knew they'd always be there. When they weren't she realised what it's like to lose them it's meant to mirror the line from the original film.
Since Disney gave up on trying to do anything interesting or aesthetically valuable, and started relying on the same trite moral every time while continuing to pretend that it's still a twist.
I actually thought Billy was a great character in the first movie. It's really nice to see a friendly zombie in a live-action film and I like that he does what he can to protect the kids.
I play young Mary and I’m literally crying at all the compliments. I really don’t mind the rest of the movie but I’m so happy that people enjoy our first half. All love 💞💞
17:14 Also those 2 kids had a scene when one of them said "do you want to look through windows and see girls undress?" And the other guy replied "It's 3 am the girls are already undressed" WTF?
The beginning of the movie feels like something my high school english teacher would have us act out. Mainly since it feels like some weird stage play and she was also the drama teacher. Especially since we read the Crucible and also read most of our books where each of us would be a character.
It was cute and campy like the OG, I just wish they would have added some genuinely scary moments. As a 6 year old watching the first one, I was HAUNTED by the image of Emily hanging her head after getting her soul sucked out. The stakes were higher because people died, we even thought binx died part way through. People weren't in any real peril in HP2 :/
@@kaitlynlindsay4143 agreed, I do blame Disney. To think that Disney also produced the first movie. That was bone chilling 19 years ago, still holds up today.
Mary's roombas are one of the few bits of this movie I remember that I genuinely liked. That and, "Spread out!" and Sarah literally spreads herself out.
A lot of people say the characters of the first movie should have been included, but I think it was ok not to have them. I mean, Max gives me the vibe of someone who would like to move to a big city. Especially if he and Dany (and possibly Alison) wanted to get away from anything that had to do with the memory of the Sanderson sisters
Would have been a good sequel if they had made the witches come back to get revenge on the children of the teenage guy and girl (max and Alison I think) who killed them in the first movie and continued on the storyline. They didn’t even have to use the actors, just people who looked similar to play them as older characters.
I honestly don’t care they didn’t bring them back because it makes sense why they wouldn’t be there anymore. I personally just really didn’t like the new kids they casted. They were so boring, had 0 character development and were overall unlikable imo but that could be mostly because of poor writing I mean giving them magic was a joke.
Also in the second movie we are told that the book was given to the sisters by another witch. In the first movie there is an entire sub-plot about how the book was given to the sisters by the devil. Also, shoutout to the kid who asked what a virgin was💀
I mean u could say it was twisted over the past 300 years to make the Sanderson Sisters seem more evil, cuz clearly the town despised them. So that personally didn't bug me.
I give that one some leeway since it's meant to play up the legendary status of the Sanderson Sisters as these dark and evil characters. It's the same way someone would say "Vlad the Impaler was actually a vampire. Which is why he was so evil."
@@jongon0848 that ruins the whole story the whole plot of the first movie is to show them as witches who were once human but sold their soul to escape sexism and be young forever. Also she was married to billy in the first one then the blonde sister cheated with him which is why she hates her
@@lelelew2735 they never said Winifred and Billy were married in the first film. The most Binx says is "Billy Butcherson was Winifred's lover, but she saw him sporting with her sister, Sarah."
If I had to write the movie, i would make it like this: Becca and Izzy are very worried about their friend Cassie. For months now she has been acting off to the point of becoming unrecognizable: She just looked so gone, like if her mind was constantly out of her body. Recently, out of the blue, Cassie broke up with her two year boyfriend Mike and simply stopped talking them becoming more and more reclusive. They were genuinely surprised though, when Mike told them that Cassie will be going to his annual Halloween party, so maybe this will be the perfect chance to talk to her and see what is going on. The party was going to be extra creepy this year, being celebrated in the middle of the forest. They both can't wait. While Becca and Izzy were going costume-shopping for the big party, they decided to go and look around the Sanderson Sisters's house, now transformed into a museum and gift shop. When snooping around to see if there was anything they could add to their costumes, they encounter Gilbert, the excentric owner of the shop, who in conversation, tells them how Cassie has been going to the shop several times a week. Gilbert simply doesn't give them the chance to tell them that they haven't talked to Cassie in weeks, even when he shoves them a package saying to please give it Cassie, that is her "special order" The order is nothing more than a weird ass candle that is so badly done that they don't understand why Cassie ordered something like that. They were late for the party anyway, so they arrived with candle on toe. The party goes on and Cassie simply doesn't appear, until she does. Appearing in front of Becca demanding her the candle, that it was important. The minute Becca gives it to her, Cassie tries to leave, but neither Becca or Izzy are having it. They follow her until they reached the deep of the woods, the echoes of the party sounds so distant now but at least Cassie isn't running anymore. Then She is the one that confronts them, saying how this woods used to be a sacred place, a place of mourning were hundreds of women were unjustly killed for being themselves, for being more powerful than permitted. Becca and Izzie are just confused , they knew that Cassie was good at history, but they never though her was this obsessed about it. Cassie continued by saying that the town continued to profit from their suffering, with stupid parties or the "celebrations" and contests. She said all this while lighting up the candle, whose flame turns black. The earth moves They are back (to be continued....?)
The “power of friendship” arc with teenage girls just seems so bland nowadays and overused, and I say that as one. What was great about the first movie was the emphasis of sibling relationships, especially the way an older brother loves his little sister.
I liked it up right until that very first musical number singing "the witches are back." The number just seemed so out of place, and so did some of the other musical numbers. It was kinda like someone said " Ya know what would be a good idea? Broadway. Lets go in that direction with it." I loved the back story and wished we could have gotten more of that. I also wish they could have incorporated more of the original actors because that would have just made perfect total sense for it to be a continuation....this feels more like a reboot with a Broadway twist. I kinda felt like Disney gave all the die hard fans a slap in the face honestly.
What's sad is the song isn't bad at all, but I agree it's really out of place. When the one girl asks "Who are they performing for?", i had been asking the same question myself, like why is this in here? Who (in the audience) is this for? I get that all three of them have been singers in some way. SJP carried the show and played Annie for a year with the original Broadway cast in 1979, Najimi played one of the many singing nuns in Sister Act, and Midler is of course an acclaimed musical artist, but yeah there was no need have extra singing for no apparent reason. I was very worried at that moment that the entire thing was going to be a musical. I love musicals, but that would have been terrible.
@@blueneptune146 I don’t disagree with anything you said. I felt that the whole thing just had a really weak plot. And that ending? OMG, no! That was the weakest piece of crap out of any movie that I had seen in years. Not to mention that they didn’t give the sisters a real strong goal past trying to “pull a Jafar” from Aladdin and try to gain ultimate cosmic power. And when she lost her sisters Winnie went from being a lioness with claws to being no more harmful than a declawed pussy cat in a blink of an eye. They could have done so much better.
@@kimberlyhurlbut4819 I feel like they had two different ideas in mind. One for a sequel centered around the Sanderson sisters and one for a reboot centered around those kids. Neither plot line gets enough screentime for us to care about the girl power/sisterhood power. I mean I just thought the one girl was a closet lesbian for most of the movie, turns out she was iced out by her friends because she got a boyfriend? That was very unclear and weak as hell. Why should I care about them reuniting?
@@4everbuffylover Gosh, yes!!! I didn’t care about the three girls at all. There was nothing there to hold onto except Becca who is somehow and out of nowhere a witch. I didn’t care one bit about their rift because there was no time dedicated to it and it was predictable, WAY too predictable. It’s almost like there was an original script about the three friends and one finding out she’s a witch, but then someone went “hey, let’s make this Hocus Pocus 2, cut some of the friend stuff, and smash two different ideas together!”
Also I remember that in the first movie it says Winifred selled her soul to the devil and in exchange they gave her the book and constantly the main cast says that she selled her soul so... the devil is a hot witch according to hocus pocus lore
The hot witch ain't even supposed to *be* Satan, she was retconned into the story to make the child eaters who are the Sanderson Sisters less evil and more sympathetic.
This is one of your funniest videos 😂 Between the “Lord I’ve seen what you’ve done for others” line and the reason the shop owner not being able to light the candle I was hollering
I found the sequel to be rather enjoyable for what it was. I wasn't going in expecting it to be amazing by any means. It delivered what it wanted and that was bringing the sisters back. Quite honestly, I was more impressed they somewhat recreated that 90's feel to it
How could they do that? How could this new batch of teenagers be Gen-X jerks? (I didn't like the "heroes" of the first movie, as you can probably tell.)
Ya it's a cheap movie made for a streaming service capitalizing on old viewers while trying to appease a new audience and it does it.. fine its good for what it is
You forgot about the post credit scene where it shows that Gilbert had another Black Flame Candle in his shop which opens the opportunity to a 3rd movie that will probably be way worse than this one
@@4everbuffyloverwe don’t want those card board cut out girls back for part three. Get max and Allison back as parents to their own kid who lights the black flame xnadle
The movie was SOO bad! Who thought giving the literal child murders a sympathetic backstory and redemption was a good idea? I get that the Sisters are the draw, so I understand why they're the main characters. But man, watching this right after Hocus Pocus, there are some really weird decisions they go with. Also, the book bound in human flesh having moral qualms about any of its spells seemed bizarre.
They had a lot of “main characters” and so nothing worked. Hocus Pocus works because it’s a simple story about kids running away from witches on Halloween night. Obviously there’s more details to that story, but it’s all centered around the kids. In this movie, we’ve got the SUPER IRRITATING shopkeeper, the mildly irritating girl who obviously has witch powers and her friend, and the witches. Then on top of that they have that super unnecessary bit with the Mayor and his caramel apple that wasn’t connected to anything or amusing.
@@4everbuffylover I was reading this and thought I wrote it for a minute! Haha these are my exact criticisms. The shopkeeper and the mayor were both filler plots because they didn't have enough to fill a movie run time with just the 2-3 teenage girls and the witches. There was just no real sense of danger in this movie. Sure, they're goofy which makes it hard to take their threat too seriously, but in the original, they have killed and are absolutely ready to do so again. Even being goofy in the original, you still get a sense of danger from them. Not at all in this go around. And to anybody over the age of 7 that was surprised that main teen girl was a witch the whole time - really? Were we watching the same movie? There wasn't foreshadowing, no. There was forelighting. We could see that from a mile away.
@@4everbuffylover I blame Road Chip for why Tony Hale, the actor playing the mayor, has been in really crummy kids movies lately. Clifford the Big Red Dog, Toy Story 4, The Angry Birds Movies, ect.
I was pretty excited to watch it, watched it the day it dropped. It was just okay to me, sadly. It definitely had its moments which I liked. It feels like it could've been a lot better. One of the things that I liked for example was their little song spell didn't seem so useless. In the original they used it to just keep all the parents in the building dancing, but in the sequel they actually USED it to USE the parents to try to hunt down and find her dad so that they could complete the spell. Another thing - the items which they rode on. In the original it was just a joke haha she has a vacuum because there's only one broom. And while yes they did do that again this time, one of them got two roombas. BUT those actually became useful and served a purpose in getting rid of the salt that they used to trap them with.
But both of this instances makes no sense. First the song spell: In the first movie, all of them kept their conscience, in fact, the spell seemed to just force them to WANT to keep partying, in the end the parents even comment on how they liked to party and how similar it was to LA. So they were still awake, they just really wanted to party. Secondly the items: I liked that they got new ones, but the roombas helping them doesn't really make sense as well, the roombas were controlled by magic, so they should have been affected by the salt barrier, if the problem was just things that were literally magic, no physical, then the sisters themselves could've just... Brushed the salt aside? The first movie makes sense all throughout, the second movie looks amazing and feels amazing in the Sanderson sisters parts, but the rest? It looks ok, but it feels like a low budget Disney movie from the 2000s...
@@SonicluNerdGamer They couldn't just have brushed the salt away. Because in that scene, they can't even get past the barrier, it's like an it's forcing them in. So they can't even touch it. It's like a wall blocking them. Even in the first movie they knew they couldn't do anything about a salt barrier. In the first movie the spell was just to make them all want to keep dancing. So there wasn't really a purpose for it other than "lol keep dancing forever". In the second movie the spell actually served purpose because it made the parents actively hunt (while dancing) for the guy they needed in order to cast the spell, not only that but it WORKED because they found him.
@@roll3886 yeah the song might have worked, but it lead to nothing. The people under influence of the spell found him, but nothing came out of it. They didn't catch him and turn him over to the witches. They made this whole thing about the mayor being their enemy because of what his ancestor did (played by the same actor to make a point) and in the end it just fizzled out. Taking his daughter instead didn't have the same feel to me. That's what I found lacking about this entire movie, nothing lead to anything. The whole maxima power thing didn't even give a big confrontation after having a big part of the movie about that, again it just fizzled out. My sister and I were stunned when we saw that part, we were like "That's it??"
@@EmilysStar They didn't have the confrontation because they got interrupted and then it was the three girls against the three sisters, after which the detriment of the spell went into effect with Winifred's sisters. I don't disagree with a lot of the critique because like I said in my original post, they definitely could've done a lot more and they left a lot to be desired here. And they never did explain how the sisters even came back to begin with since at the end of the first movie they turned to stone and then dust completely, all three of them. Yet somehow lighting the candle again with the spell somehow....un-dusted them? Even though at the end of the second they were all dust again....which means turning to dust doesn't really mean anything and is not as a defeating thing as we once thought it was. It just means they're temporarily gone until another spell/candle comes along which is just kind of dumb.
Yes!! I was like wtf? The product placement of Walgreens, maybelline, the bath salts, swifter and those vacuums. It had its cute moments but this movie wasn’t for me at all.
As another fellow Iowan (I'm from Des Moines), I always love whenever you mention Iowa in any of your videos. Even if it's to point out there's nothing to do here and that people are far too eager to get married and start families before they can legally buy a beer😂
Oh wow I’m planning to move over there from Texas! I thought Iowa was super beautiful and had plenty to do! Lol but then again I’m from an oil field town that only has the movies as entertainment (plus a mall)
@@whyamidoingthisjustsaying Oh yeah, you'll still love it here! I feel like as Iowans we love to joke about how much it "sucks" but I still love it here😂 Personally I love Des Moines and how nice people are (also not to mention the super cheap cost of living). Can't beat Iowa Nice!
Disney exec: Hey, remember that Hocus-pocus movie? Director: Yeah? DE: Let's do a sequel. D: OK DE: Also remember the Sanderson sisters? D: The devil worshipping, child murdering sisters who make candles from dead men and have a human skin book that appears to be possessed by an evil force who condemned a young boy to live forever as a cat, almost made most of a town dance until they died and tried to bang a dude they thought was the devil? DE: Yeah, them. So lets make them sympathetic this time around.
The only appeal this movie had for me was watching the Sanderson sisters do more goofy shit across town while trying to complete their scheme. It succeeded in that so I enjoyed this movie. Plus I did like how many small details would go over someone's head if they hadn't watched the original recently. (Not the obvious ones like the singing scene, but more like the small ones like the fact that some guy was literally watching the original movie in his house while the sanderson sisters flew by.)
Hocus Pocus was my favorite Halloween movie growing up, I enjoyed the dark humor of it and how it’s timeline related to the Salem witch trial’s, And the beginning when the witch gave Winifred the book didn’t match the original, because Winifred said The devil himself gave her the book and she had been to hell and found it lovely. Which just keeps driving me crazy
They made a book version of this with a sequel, and I liked that sequel a lot. That one followes Max and Allison's daughter, and I don't know, I just like it a lot better. I think it would have been interesting if this movie went in that direction. It feels more true to the original. Plus, one of the characters has lightning powers.
I think the og actors (at least one of them) didn’t want to come back so if they went that direction they would have to recast (which could be really criticized) or do something else (like they did).
@Jasmine N. Hocus Pocus and the all New Sequel. The first half is pretty much the original movie, and from my understanding a little more back ground information involving " mother" the second half is the sequel, following Max and Allison's daughter. I haven't read it yet, because of the mixed reviews on the sequel part of it.
3:49 😂 that should not have made me laugh this hard, my little sister actually reacts “interesting” stuff of sonic and tails and I’m just like whyyyyyyyyy. God help her. Also great vid loved this always find your jokes and animation awesome.
There is no way this sequel would have been received well at all. The original is too iconic. BUT, it could have been worse and ruin the first one like many sequels love to do.
trueeee i rlly don’t think a lot of people will love it, personally i liked it because of gilbert and billy and obvi the sisters but when she became a witch too i thought it was odd
I liked the main girls, they seemed relatable and weren't annoying. I wished that the jock boyfriend had more screentime, he had the funniest lines, but randomly disappeared towards the end.
Ok but I hate that “Friendship is the answer to all problems” because they do it in sooo many movies and shows. In the first Hocus Pocus they outsmarted the witches and personally that’s more entertaining
For real like it felt so dumbed down. They made a plan and excecuted it. They literally burned them alive at first.
What I found unusual is that she tells him to be nicer but she literally pretends to cast a spell on him earlier in the movie by listing vegan food. You cannot convince me that she didn’t know what she was doing there.
@@devilovesdevil Dumbed down not dumber down.
Yeah. The movie was well made, but it was weird. Will Disney stop with that corny "I didn't realize it but my friends and sisters were my power"
Personally, I do find it interesting that they have made some rules for the witches like you have to use the power in a group to be more efficient
Winifred felt so out of character in the sequel. What made her so compelling in the first film was that she was unabashedly evil. She didn't care for her sisters. She only cared for how she can use her sisters in order to obtain the children's youth (by using Mary's hightened sense of smell & Sarah's singing voice). In the sequel, she all of a sudden makes the realization that her sisters were the most important thing to her, but in reality she couldn't care less what happens to them if it means achieving her own ambition. For example, in the first film, Max drinks the life potion and thus, sacrifices himself for his sister. Winifred takes him and tells him, "what a fool to give thy life for thy sister." Winifred can't comprehend why someone would be willing to sacrifice themselves for their sister. She would never make such a decision.
nah in the first one you could see she cared for them
I loved her character growth.
The first movie was boring the sequel was fun to watch.
Lmao the sheep liking yiur comment. I hated that random patriarchal line. But Winifred loved her sisters first one. If yiu gonna critique, please critique that makes sense
@@muslim_first You have bad taste.
Anyone else questioned the whole “Winnie loves her sisters” angle? She even calls Max a fool for sacrificing his life for his sister. But In this one she’s suddenly all about family.
Gosh, yes!!!! That really took me out of the movie.
But how are they gonna make literal child murderers sympathetic and relatable? Female villains being just evil to be evil is saxisms!!!
@@nightmarefanatic1819 that was my other problem. Didn’t know MASS child murderers were in need of empathy.
The Sanderson Sisters are like The Three Stooges of Halloween
I hated that too!!!!
That one old woman that leaves her house, sees child Winnie stomp past her, and just turns around saying, "I have seen enough today," is the most relatable character I've ever seen on screen before.
I must say, they picked younger versions of the Sanderson Sisters flawlessly. The younger version of Winnie especially looked a lot like Bette Midler. I wish that Hannah Waddingham had been given more to do.
Sounds really stupid but umm I didn’t know they were different, I didn’t really think that the first was 20 years old so the actors would be also 20 years older. So I’m stupid
I had no idea
@@Nopedy-nope LOL me too
@@Nopedy-nope they don’t look like different actors at all so I see your point
The beginning of the movie gave me so much hope. Those kid actors for the sisters were so good. Apart from that, the only part of the movie I liked was when they went inside the Walgreens.
The first Hocus Pocus had the base premise of a horror story (witches wanted to effectively kill all the children in salem to extend their lives) painted as family movie with dash of comedy. The sequel was a $5 kids special in the same category as the spooky buddies.
There's little originality anymore. The only soul they have is the original name. They use it to make quick money and inject their dumb ideologies into it. Actual important things like the quality of the writing take a back seat. I refuse to watch any modern remakes or sequels.
Would have been a good sequel if they had made the witches come back to get revenge on the children of the teenage guy and girl (max and Alison I think) who killed them in the first movie and continued on the storyline. They didn’t even have to use the actors, just people who looked similar to play them as older characters.
Exactly!
Yup, this movie tried to undo the fact that they were REAL witches. As in Witchcraft, as in trying to summon power from Satan.
In the first one they literally say they got the spell book from Satan. In this movie they almost tried to spin it as witches are the good people… but then they realized it was already established in the first one that the witches were bad and ate people… so the whole plot was contradicting
Alr yep time for the hate train of people on this video lol
Felt like they tried to go the sympathetic route with the witches in this movie and couldn't decide if they wanted to make them fun classic villains, or make them redeemable babies who were simply misunderstood.
What made them so fun in the first movie was how evil they were. They sold their souls, worshipped satan, and even at the end Winnie mocks Max for sacrificing his own life for his sister's, content to be the only one to eat his soul while her sisters were preoccupied with the others. The caring sister route they went with in the second film felt like they were trying too hard to "defang" her.
Couple that with the continuity errors like them not knowing salt is their weakness in the sequel, and I'd rate 3 or 4/10
First movie: Omg, witches bad! Second movie: Witches not that bad, just misunderstood.
@@dougsmith6262 I feel like I could write a better pre-quel without even watching it knowing ths
thats the current writing for all villans in most movies but especially disney. its TIRED.
Who else saw this and said I'm never goin to read this
"the barracuda who ate nemo's mom isn't bad, he's just misunderstood"
Fun fact: the black flame candle is made from the fat of a hangman, so does that mean the dude hung a guy and used his fat to bring back 3 random witches he didn't even know?
'HOL UP-
Nope, I think he just reused the old black candle. Candles can be remade by just melting the excess.
fun fact: here’s a question?
the fact was what it was made out of the rest was a question @@franze4
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As a kid in the 90s, Hocus Pocus was the halloween movie that really stuck with me growing up. It's one of my all time favorite movies and I still watch it every year, almost 30 years later. And I was ECSTATIC when I first found out they were finally making another with the original cast (Bette, Kathy, SJP). After watching Hocus Pocus 2, I was rather disappointed. I disliked how disney cranked up the kiddy-ness - the book was given Winnie by the devil himself, not some random-no-name-1-scene-only witch in the woods. It's literally bound in human skin. And the book having moral objections to a spell in its OWN pages? What?! Why?! I also disliked how it was turned into a borderline musical. There was one(1) song in the original and that was only when it was plot appropriate, as the song was really a spell to distract all the adults. And lastly, the whole "the real magic was friendship all along" thing was... ughh... Anyways, sorry for the rant. Good video, Alex. lmaooo
Same. Honestly I really did not like how the protagonist was the chosen one and was a witch all along... Don't worry. I was also disappointed.
Thank you! Honestly, youre the only person I've seen so far talk about how the book was given by the Devil himself. I say -HIMSELF- because he clearly presented himself to the Sisters in the form of a man, otherwise, why would they mistake the older man as their "Master" in the Original. This movie was an absolute cringe fest of bad writing and poor characters. Unforgivable
@@Ravenboss91 I really did not like how the book ended up having feelings. It's um... Weird.
@@Tfffueant Agreed. In the original, it did have a connection to Winifred. Almost like a Pet to its owner. That didn't bother me. She did sell her soul for the book.
But, in this movie they went and gave the book a consciences, like it knew right from wrong. Bruh, wut? It's a fuckin book made outta human skin. Damn thing has no duty trying to "do the right thing".
@@Ravenboss91 Honestly. Like, it's just a literal damn book.
Probably would have been better as just a prequel about the young sisters, honestly.
bring those child actors from the beginning back and give them a check for a show- it would be campy but it would also be amazing
I think I'd have liked a prequel movie/show better honestly
Ironically, I would have actually give THAT a chance.
That would be amazing. I would definitely watch it.
I agree. I enjoyed the original witches and I enjoyed them as children. The new good kids bored me to tears.
And then none of it was even creepy! The first had legitimate creepy moments. The hanging, trying to eat kids souls, turning a kid into a cat, being burned alive.
True. I refused to watch the first one fully until a few years ago because the bit that I did see as a child freaked me out
Exactly! Like I want to watch this around Halloween! There are episodes of goosebumps that are spookier than this 🤦🏻♀️
Just wanted any level of spook
Disney is to soft now back in the 90s they were edgy I miss that.
ya but we didn't really have soccer mom Karen's back then to complain about it.
@@PrincessCelestia19 Oh you sweet summer child...
“How bad could it possibly be?”
Wrong movie Alex, this is Hocus Pocus, not the Lorax
Here’s my breakdown
Pros:
- The young girls who played the Sanderson Sisters did a great job, I liked the whole beginning with them. I probably would have liked a prequel more.
- It’s just great to see the Sanderson Sisters and Billy Butcherson back
- I enjoyed Tony Hale as the mayor, he just has a great comedic presence
- The Walgreens scene was pretty damn funny
Cons:
- The new characters were so boring! I didn’t see any kind of good backstory or develop any bond with them. In the original, we see Max is a fish out of water moving to a new town, trying to act cocky and it backfiring with him giving his number to Allison, getting his shoes stolen by the bullies, learning to be a better big brother, and then sacrificing himself for his sister…and getting his shoes back. That is GROWTH. I didn’t feel any of that from the new cast. We know three girls used to be friends, but one they pretty much ghost because she got a boyfriend…super deep.
- I didn’t like that the Sanderson Sisters weren’t really evil at all anymore. The original movie, they literally killed a girl in the first ten minutes, talked about killing/eating children, were ecstatic to hang out with the guy they thought was Satan (they literally call him Master), Sarah screams when that little angel says “bless you”, they put a curse on the parents to make them dance until they literally die (not just dance to find a guy like in the sequel), Billy says “go to Hell” and Winifred says “I’ve been there and I found it quite lovely”, and the end where there’s some sympathy for losing her sisters (in the first movie Winifred tell Max he’s a fool for giving up his life for his sisters). They were fun but actually evil and wouldn’t stop at anything to kill those children of Salem.
- Why were the sisters surprised at the salt?? That was already established in the first movie.
- I honestly felt like there was no urgency or risk in this movie. The first one, the witches kept repeating how they only had until sunrise, and the kids were trying different ways to kill them or stall for time. This one they just put a circle of salt around them and peaced out. The first movie they kill Emily so we saw that they meant business. This movie just felt like funny bits and nothing on the line.
I feel the same way about the sisters not being as evil as the first movie! The Winifred from the first movie would have definitely sacrificed her sisters to become all powerful and live forever! The whole “oh I don’t want this power if that means I have to live without my sisters” thing really blew it for me. I hated the ending.
I mean honestly, she probably doesn't care about any family EXCEPT her own. She's evil, she can be a hypocrite.
@@BelladonnaJojo The way I always heard the line “what a fool to give up thy life, for thy sisters” really sounded like “I would never give up my life for my sisters”. She always came across as selfish and only caring about herself and using her sisters when she needed something from them. Even at the end of the first movie, her sisters blow up in the sky and she doesn’t care, she is trying the suck Maxs life out and the last thing she yells when she realizes she’s going to die is “book”. So the sequel seemed off brand for her character
@@megaearthlover Yeah honestly I did like the sequel overall, but that ending with little risk and the sympathy grab just felt wrong and soured the ending
Yeah I agree with all of this, it's almost like Disney went the super safe route and ended up producing a pretty boring movie
I'm so tired of Disney ruining their villains. For ten years they won't let their villains be villains. Villains make the heroes. If heroes didn't have a villain to overcome they'd be useless.
But they are villains; they still would have sucked the lives out of the children's lives if they didn't believe the all-power spell wouldn't save them time. They still wanted to take over Salem and possibly more.
@@TrelliessRose they got redeemed which means they're no longer villains.
@@patrickmcgavin2245 No... they didn’t. They got reduced to begging teenagers for help. That's not redemption. It's just desperation.
@@TrelliessRose that's even worse.
@@patrickmcgavin2245 Even Cersei Lannister goes out just like that.
They had nearly three whole decades to craft a good sequel and yet they cherry-picked every Netflix cliche they could find.
Yeah ya know why. Bc they just wanna make a quick buck for a new Halloween movie idea 😃😃
I recommend you read the hocus pocus 2 book! It’s nothing like this movie- it’s told from the perspective of Allison and Max’s daughter, and our “mean girl not a part of the friend group” character is actually the daughter of one of the bullies from the original Hocus Pocus! 10/10 recommend 😊
I hated the whole "bullying" thing because if anything the girls were the bullies trying terrorize the Guy by mocking Him and pretending to cast spells when they KNOW it disturbs him. And the guy seems really slow, and it felt like they were making of Him because He's slow and doesn't like witch Craft, they didn't even give the guy a chance they were like "No Cassie you can't have other friends."
Honestly I didn't know he was purposely dumbed down to make the main characters look smarter, I thought he was autistic on the first watch
I thought the exact same thing! Becca was my least favorite character in the entire movie because she seems like she denies the fact that she does/likes witchcraft the entire movie up until her friend sees her powers. Like girl you go to a magic shop on a regular basis, do a ritual every Halloween but deny it every time someone asks you if you practice witchcraft? Like it just doesn’t make sense to me. I’m a beginner witch myself I like going to magic stores and I practice light rituals and if someone asks about I don’t deny and nobody calls me weird or anything. You would think for a girl like Becca that lives in a town that embraces witchcraft she would too
@@amandaarlt4948 for real though, Becca was seriously full of It
@@amandaarlt4948 fr
wait what
Honestly, I'd rather see a Hocus Pocus prequel with the three young Sanderson Sisters from the beginning of the film coming into their own with witch magic than a Hocus Pocus 3 where the three girls from this film start using Book in their own lives. I thought the young girls at the start of the movie did a pretty solid job capturing their adult counterparts' quirks and whatnot.
Sure, there is the Black Candle Number 3 back at the magic shop/the sisters' old home which hints at them returning AGAIN.
Also, my guess is Billy and Sarah started 'messing around' when they were older because Billy seems to have been killed as a grown adult as opposed to his teen self at the start of this film considering his corpse/zombie form is seemingly that of an adult man.
I'd love that too, though with better actors/directing than the girls in this movie. Sadly, though, we'll never get that because to show the young Sanderson sisters, you'd eventually have to show them kidnapping children and killing them to suck their life force out, and Disney would never. Plus, not sure how much activity they'd have in the sleepy town of Salem in the 1650s. They were kind of banished so other than them terrorizing here and there, not sure what the plot of such a movie or series would be.
Also, it's kind of implied that Mary and Sarah didn't have much power in this latest movie until the very end. I never got that impression in the first movie. We might not see them using force lightning like Winnie does, but I always thought they were meant to be equally powerful in their own right. If we're following along with this latest movie, though, the only power that Mary ever came into is her ability to smell out children and all Sarah can do is lure said children to their doom. What we'd need is for the sister's powers to be reinterpreted. While Winnie would definitely have the most active powers, Mary could have the power to find things or know things about others. I don't know if resourcefulness is a power, but it's something to go off of. Sarah would be much more interesting to reinterpret as her power to lure children could be considered the power of persuasion. But of course to stay true to the characters, Sarah's power would be contained within a ditzy vessel that doesn't wield it for anything other than Winnie's bidding - aside from maybe seducing Billy Butcherson.
@@blueneptune146 >.>;; salem was far from a sleepy town plus they could have the girls mess around with the witch trials.
Would have been a good sequel if they had made the witches come back to get revenge on the children of the teenage guy and girl (max and Alison I think) who killed them in the first movie and continued on the storyline. They didn’t even have to use the actors, just people who looked similar to play them as older characters.
@@azura-moonstar So the movie opens up in 1653. We don't have exact population data for Salem at this time, but it's important to note that there are two distinct entities that comprised "Salem", those being Salem Village and Salem Town, and they were about 7 miles apart from each other, so not an easy walk. The village was a parish of the town, though, and the events that kick off the witch trials started in the village which only had about 500 people in 1692 compared to the 1400 in the town. This would have been even less 40 years prior when the opening of the movie takes place. Looking at the opening scene's setup, it's clear that the more rural village is being represented rather than the much more organized port town. The town and the village were noted to be quarrelsome with each other, but it was mostly in regards to land boundaries, grazing rights and church politics, not something that would be terribly interesting to see 3 young banished witches getting involved in, especially since they can't enter sacred spaces such as a church.
If we wanted to look at their messing with the trials, they'd have to be played by the original 3 actors, presumably similar to how they appeared in the opening act of the first movie (old and greying) because the trials happened in 1692 and they were put to death on Halloween in 1693 according to the original movie. So other than land disputes, farming and church politics, not much happened in Salem until the reverend Parris' daughter and niece started acting out in February 1692. Shoot, Billy Butcherson didn't even get poisoned until May 1693 according to his headstone in the movie, which would have made him in his 50s if he was a teen in 1653. I'd always assumed that his murder had happened when Sarah appeared younger and had attracted a younger guy. Now that I think of it, it's really strange to have included young Billy in the opening of the new movie because that makes him really old (for the time) and he would've known something was up if young looking Sarah Sanderson starting hitting him up when they're both supposed to be old.
I think the joke with Winnifred calling Billy her lover (but he is actually Sarah's lover) is that when Winnifred and Billy were teenagers, they kissed once, and later when the Sanderson Sisters and Billy were adults (and Sisters were already feared witches), Sarah and Billy had a serious romantic relationship, which was likely secret given the fact that the Sisters were exiled witches. Winnifred was still in love with Billy (presumably, that kiss being the closest she ever came to romance in her life), and she still had him "claimed" in her mind. She found out about Sarah and Billy, and killed him out of jealousy.
So it is even pettier than she was mad that her sister was with a guy she kissed a few months ago. She was mad that her sister was with a guy she kissed 10+ years ago. Seems very in-character, to me.
Same, they should have their home in the woods where they are fearsome witches, but sadly everyone thinks about Salem Witch Trials more today sure there was innocent women and few men did died in those trials, but they literally sold their souls to the Devil like seriously, where the original cast, there would make the movie 10 times better, helping the new cast out to defeat the Sanderson Sisters.
But the thing is they don't even explain this in the movie lmao, if you haven't seen the first one in a long time like me, you literally have no idea what's going on there. Also in the first movie it's implied that Billy cheated on Winnie with Sarah, and since none of them ever deny that one would assume it's actually what happened
@@nahicorua To be fair, Billy couldn't talk, in Winnie's eyes that IS what happened, and Sarah... well Sarah is Sarah...
Yes! I was thinking the same thing.
@@officialbrucewayne Which character is a pedophile? Must've missed that part of the movies.
The first Hocus Pocus came out the year I was born, so I've literally seen at least once a year since I can remember and it still holds up. I think one of the reasons its so rewatchable is because it's not really a kid movie, it's kid friendly with adult themes kids don't catch until we get older. This second one is definitely a Disney generation sensitive production that is made for kids. It was alright but it just didn't hit the same.
I agree! Especially with the lack of actual tension or scary stuff in this new one. It was like they were too afraid to put anything scary in the movie smh
So a famaly movie, thats a famaly movie.
And irs true kids ply likely over the messed up stuff and get the vibe but, goofy too.
my video just broke UA-cam
My birthday was the same year, too!
Yeah, I agree, made for kids and very coded in nostalgia. It's too sensitive to really put scary stuff in it. I could hardly even remember any character's name in this that wasn't from the original.
"We march at dawn" is pure gold
At least Billy got mentioned here. And I still think he's the best character in both movies. 👍
Billy is the best I’m so happy he got the montage of being bros and chilling
even though he got stabbed in the back by Gilbert
Absolutely agree!!!
Ending was a mess but I still had fun regardless LOL. Things I wish they did: 1. Turn one of the teens into a cat or dog to save us from their acting 2. Use an actual halloween song for the main act on stage 3. Dani (from the first film) should've been the owner of the magic store and she helps them beat the witches at the end. 4. Give the mayor his damn apple he deserves it.
Him not getting his apple crushed me because I would have had the exact same reaction
@@mushlii same lol
The actress who played Dani wasn't available during filming but totally was down to do the sequel they should of made an exception and filmed her scenes later.
disagree with 2. i think it's such a fun concept to cover classic hits in a spooky halloween style, in turn giving the lyrics a different vibe. i could go for an album of sanderson sister covers tbh.
@@mushlii Dani would've been weird to run the shop. The girl was almost killed by them, I'd think she'd want to distance herself from any thought about them. If anyone would've ran it, it would've been Allison since her mom ran the museum on them, and she was already familiar with them beforehand.
But honestly, I can't picture any of the characters staying in Salem as adults, this is a town that openly celebrates the Sandersons as legends. I think Max, Dani, and Allison would all get immediate ptsd if they even saw the costume contest.
Honestly, I was mostly frustrated that the dad never got his apple. I thought for sure they'd use magic in the end to make one or something, but ah well.
I know, I felt so bad. 😣
@@Trees... Right? He was a good guy and a good dad, he deserved that damn apple!
Those apples looked really good.
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I was also upset by this--I thought the little clip at the end of the film would be that but instead it's a setup for a possible third film
Alex out here providing a public service. I was really hesitant about staining my love of the original. Now I've seen all I need to see
No
I like how they are like "Calling people names is mean!", when they literally gave him detention for making fun of him.
It wasn't unprovoked though
@@realdavidjones1623 exactly
@@realdavidjones1623 Oh, so because they do it it was fine. But when the jock does it, that's bad. Even though he was stating FACTS and they just had fun spooking him?
@@realdavidjones1623 Yes it was. Him calling them weird and pointing out their differences is NOT making fun of them. It's doing exactly what he said he was doing. They're just immature crybabies, as evidenced by them allowing a life-long friendship be disrupted because their other friend had more than TWO friends, and the two girls were being total c|_| /\/ Ts about it.
@@a.mp.m7340 Actually, even worse, he's coded as "mentally different" (or whatever people are saying, these days) and they take advantage of his differences.
The first one seemed way darker. Like it opens with a child being murdered and another child being turned into a cat forever. The book is evil and nothing good can come from it and it was given to her by the Devil himself and they explicitly serve Satan. Pretty dark. Now the book is...nice and was given to them by a mother witch and also Billy wasn't anyone's lover I guess because no sex. The original stood out because like it had a bunch of stuff in it that wasn't kid friendly while still being a movie kids would love (I loved it at 4 years old, loved it, it was scary and good). This just seems very - just for tweens and um hope nostalgia makes adults watch it.
Facts !!
Ok, so I know the store owner Gilbert claims he saw the sisters in the graveyard, but how tf would he? All the children in Salem were under the spell at the time, going toward the graveyard in a trance as the witches fought their fate. All while the parents of the kids were ALSO under a spell so they could party all night til they died.
The Sisters hadn't lost til sunrise...Gilbert would have never been able to be walking around freely like this unless he had earplugs while trick or treating. Sarah said it was literally her ONE job, and yet she was unable to capture this random boy? This whole movie wouldnt have happened. It's just a wierd insert that took me out of it due to continuity ig.
Gilbert said his candy was stolen so I'd like to think he probably was shaken up and went back to his house while the spell was going on so he didn't hear it. Then decided to go and try trick or treating once more. Either way though, they should've clarified.
The whole movie ruins the origin story first off they became witches by selling their soul to stay young so..how are they witches as kids. They were supposed to be ordinary women who happened to become witches to live forever
You're right!
I literally watched the first movie last night and saw the second movie for the first time this very morning and for whatever reason that never once actually dawned on me! Thanks! :)
@@lelelew2735 not once did the original movie confirm they sold their souls? That was only said by Dani to make her "you're evil that makes you ugly" comment sting more. Yes they call the devil master but that can be attributed to them spending 300 years in hell
@@justaperson4656 in order to be a witch and be immortal you would have to its already inclined.
If you want to be technical if you end up in hell you sold your soul lol
I’m so annoyed at Disney making literally EVERY plot the same. It’s always about a girl being “quirky and different” and then be so amazing at the end. It’s like the hated child in Gacha life💀
Why did Winnie being engaged at 16 weird him out? That was NORMAL back then. In fact, it would have been normal if she was ALREADY married with a KID
Dost thou not knowest? T’is the Year of Our Lord 2022. It is thy moral imperative to judge all past people and societies through the fickle lens of modernity.
@@ValhallaXYZ I commend thee on thine imitation dialect
That's not actually true, only Royal people actually got married as children and they never had any kind of relations until they were both adults. It wasn't "normal" back then and it's not normal now.
More like 3 kids
@@Jadzebra You need to do more research
Apparently, there's a book about the Hocus Pocus Sequel but with Max's and Allison's daughter accidentally freeing the Sanderson sisters like what Max did the in first movie and she, along with her family and friends try to stop them before they resurrect every dead witch in town order to gain immortality. But this sounds like a better story than what we got.
Come on Disney you’ve could’ve done a sequel like that,and give us this downer
Not only that, but they introduce to us a *4th* Sanderson Sister named Elizabeth, that went down the path of white magic unlike her sisters that devoted themselves to satanism.
And, on the plus side for Disney. (knowing them now and days.), there's even some LGBTQ+ representation in there too, with the protag Poppy falling in love with the popular girl at High-school, and we know how Disney wants to represent LGBTQ+ (Not that it's a bad thing ofc.), so not only would they have a good story, but a good story with the thing they want to represent in their movies!
Missed opportunity, Disney!
I suspected it was they couldn't get everyone to cameo (or be in) the sequel movie, so they just did whatever.
I'd be happier watching this than what we got.
A little cliche but if done right it could have been a good time
so the family "dates back to the witch trials"
but... literally every family that has ever existed after the witch trials dates back at the very least that far
Didn't you know? Some families just pop into existence? Like sims?
@@TeruteruBozusama
Shh! You're not supposed to just say that! If you do you might get deleted by the Play-
Yea but most families were not from Salem during the witch trials
Well, it's more about tracing genealogy, and particularly the establishment of family dynasties and regions where they settled. "Well, we can trace our roots back 300 years, starting with a cobbler in Salem that established his shop, and his wife knitted matching socks. It was popular enough that they were able to grow the business into something that employed a number of extended family members, and one that lasted until the Great Depression, after which the business fell to ruin. My great great grandfather had taken over at that time, but when it was ruined in the Great Depression he resorted to being a shoe shine, and my great great grandmother started the family's traditional dish of bread soaked in celery broth."
I don't know why I started inventing a fake family history (and depression styled dish) to that extent, it kind of got away from me. Anyway, that's usually what people mean when they say their family 'dates back to so and so' time.
She meant that her family was present in Salem when the witch trials were happening, it was about a time and location, here´s a funfact: Sarah Jessica Parker´s family actually dates back to the Salem witch trials, another funfact she is married with Matthew Broderick the one who played Ferris Bueller
I remember crying my eyes out at the end of the first one when I was little! Thackery lost his human life trying to save his sister, then loses his cat life trying to save Dani. When he is reunited with his sister at the end, it's an emotional moment.
This movie does not have the emotional ark of the first one by any stretch. It tries to shoehorn in a theme of "togetherness" without any of the characters experiencing any real stakes until the last five minutes of the movie! The movie was really missing that storyline of loss that it had with Thackery Binx in the first one.
Disney made Hocus Pocus 2 more kid friendly... Disney used to be more hard-core.
It's 2022 people get woke
@@0._-kirby_the_gamer-_.0 what “woke“ person is saying that there shouldn't be dark themes in kids movies? You sound like a literal boomer right now
@@0._-kirby_the_gamer-_.0 Agreed. This is just another piece of woke intersectional feminist garbage.
I don’t think that Disney realizes that kids aren’t stupid though. They made it so dumbed down and idiotic.
@@rvt_h3d How was Hocus Pocus 2 feminist?
This movie was ok, wasn’t the worst thing I’ve seen. The only thing I vividly remember is that one kid asking what a virgin was 💀
This was my brother 💀 to be fair it was also me when I was 9 soooo lol
Same
I was trying to keep a straight face bc my parents were watching near me 😞
@@Seals_arecuties I was watching with my mom and brother, my brother is 7. I was trying to hold back laughter.
Precisely, a nice nod to the original movie, and pointing out that most of the target audience probably wouldn't even know what a virgin was either.
Hocus Pocus is one of the greatest movies ever made. It was simplistic but yet had a very engaging story! The second was decent, though the main characters were quite boring. The sanderson sisters were brilliant as always!
nah, the bazinga's were what made it great.
Of all the references they never said “Yabos” or however ya spell it-
The main character of the both movies are boring, except the cat, the rest more than being individuals are a combination of what you think a teenager in that time would be
Lmao,"Greatest Movies Ever Made".
I personally found the protagonists more interesting in the new movie, because they were much more active in driving the story along and were WAY LESS BORING than the original protagonists
I can remember, as a child getting a free sucker whenever we got him pointing to the star on the wrapper of our tootsie pops back then...maybe it was just a local store thing :). Crazy to hear you even mention it!
As someone who's watched friendship is magic I can say that I've never seen anyone else do that message right. In My Little Pony Friendship is magic they pretty much spend every episode SHOWING the friendships between the characters with a lot of complex story telling. Showing their struggles and tough times and how they help each other through it so by the end they really EARN the right to say friendship is magic. It's not just something tagged on at the end like an after thought. In a movie like hocus pocus 2 it feels really cheep because the friendships don't feel real or worth anything.
Congrats your a pathetic person
Sure, FiM did an *okay* job, I say ‘okay’ because they’d spend an episode learning the lesson only for it to be completely forgotten a few episodes later, like Rainbow Dash with the “28 Pranks Later” thing or they could be downright hypocritical: again Rainbow Dash was chastised and humiliated for bragging (rightfully) about her accomplishments while the likes of Applejack and Rarity got off Scot-free for being Lex Luthor-Level Braggarts sometimes 😒😒😒
@@HPFan4Life81 I hope you're talking to that bot, not the person who wrote this comment. Because they literally did/said nothing pathetic at all, and calling them names like that says more about you than it does about them.
We get it, you're a Brony. Do you have to tell that to everyone?
Eh I feel Kamen Rider Fourze did the whole friendship is power/magic trope a bit better than FiM
why do all Disney remakes gotta give a villain a sad backstory like why can’t a villain just be evil.
Because thats not how it works. People are not evil because they are just evil.
Clearly in Hokus Pokus 2 They give them some "sad" bacstrory, while they was more naturally evil/weird and the "sad" bacstory gived the purpose get them they reall evilnes OUT.
I don´t think the sisters saw they own bacstory like sad. Winnie was clearli just pissed of they wanted take her sister. Clearly, self centered girl with some ...little morals.
In psychological site, it was realistick and well done.
You will never see someone who did something just because: Hey it sound like nice idea!
There is always some backround. Nice feeling, revenge, despice, anger... Clearly you can just ENJOI making peoples live miserable. Thats a thing to.
Bud be Evil just because you are evil. DON´T exist.
@@edgelord143 Jeffrey Dahmer would like to have a word with you, so would many other serial killers with normal upbringings.... And yeah I completely agree, it's a lot more interesting since nearly every half-baked villain ends up with a "redemption arc" nowadays. I don't need a sad backstory to understand why someone's evil, some people are genuinely just evil for no reason.
@@satapon4129 Have you not ever read up into Jeffrey dahmers life? He did NOT have a normal upbringing 🤣 Most serial killers don't which is partly what makes them emotionless to the evil shit they do. People forget that despite these people lacking emotions, they gain in knowledge. Especially how to take the lives of stupid people. Lol
@@satapon4129 Yeah, you can have normal chilhood to be evil. You don´t need sometimes nothing bad.
Its sad that all villians in movies etc are without parents and the word was cruel.
While, yes, there is in histori peoples like them. Bud we have the other side.
How you sayid, you don´t need have sad bacstory, bud you need have a PUSH.
And it can be anything. Most of time, the enjoimend of torturing.
I think in movies, we need more villias what is sucesful, with nothing wrong then they own taste for blood.
@@thtswutshesaid Bro had a similar childhood to like 10 people I know, I dont think they're all serial killers. On the scale of messed up childhood's that serial killers have had (the most common ones coming from households of horrific abuse) he's very low down.
And no, I don't think any serial killer is emotionless to what they do. They take a sadistic and often sexual pleasure in the act of killing, what are you on about?
I think the girl like "having magic" was what took me out of the movie. It felt a little out of left field but sharing the magic with her friends made sense. Like the charmed ones said, power of 3 will set us free.
And also like Charmed, some things should be left alone lol.
*hork*
1.) Sharing power? Cringe subtly annoying feminist messaging. Implying as if men (especially today) have ANY power to share to begin with lol. Do women really just love pretending their oppressed because they're lonely or can't keep a man? That's all it is at this point. All feminist talking point have either been debunked endlessly or non-excuse like merely people's attitudes now. Because women might be criticized (same with men, but we've managed to put up with A LOT of your BS as well, NOT ANYMORE! We're in a new era of gender dynamics, we have no incentives or reason you treat you with any level of kindness or curiosity lol), that magically means women have not rights for some reason even though you can't name me one right a man has that isn't afford to a woman lol.
2.) Don't you DARE ever compare this trash to Charmed!
I recently binge watched the HalloweenTown movies right before watching the Hocus Pocus movies back to back and I kept on feeling like I was watching HalloweenTown again! XD
No what took me out was when they're in the shop and they're eating fkn skin products like wtf mate 😂😂 who approved this
I fell in LOVE with the first Hocus Pocus. I absolutely LOVED the brother sister duo! But the second one is just a few friends- and one of them is this pretty mayors daughter. I also have this weird obsession with lower old quality movies, I love em:)
You thought the mayor was pretty? O.k. if you say so.
The only part I cared for was the end; billy got to rest and book was shown some development. I felt really bad for book and adored his story- despite the fact they left out he was made of human flesh and cursed. This would have been the time to tell us more but no, just let him cry and break my heart. Better than nothing I guess
It's a shame that they threw away the book's backstory. "Crafted of human skin and presented to Winifred by Satan himself" is so much more interesting than "Hannah What's-her-Tits does a cameo after going to the mall for a makeover at Claire's."
And they changed the fact that they got it from the devil and not from some random witch
I don’t understand why Billy was awake in the first place. Binx was able to rest after they disappeared, why wasn’t Billy also allowed to rest?
Now Book has a new Mistress
@@RussianKitty I could forgive that given people are more open to their practices and it’s still Disney; plus stories get twisted after a time (which they joke about with billy being a lover instead of just a kiss)
billy was literally the best character in the first hocus focus movie, he decided to help the kids in the end
Some of it was great and brought me back to the spark of the original and then some of it was just cringy and trying too hard to connect to a younger generation
Well, they didn't seem to emphasize killing young children in this movie very much, which is good. I never liked the original movie for a number of reasons, the main one being that the plot to suck out all the children's youth really disturbed me. I don't mind the animated Disney films being dark, because...well, the "actors" aren't real. But I thought the original HOCUS POCUS was inappropriate for children, or even young teenagers (which I was at the time).
I get the impression thats what ALL the remakes are about.
I just wished they wouldn’t done the “spell on you” song at the festival that would’ve been perfect 😩😩
@@SeasideDetective2 And you're part of the problem, that's some snowflakey ass comment you just made. The movie came out when I was born and watched it a couple years later. I never had ANY problem with it when I watched it as a kid. I grew up watching horror and watched FAR worse things than Hocus Pocus; many people agree that that was the best part about the movie, the creepy vibe it had to it. Now because of people like you who complain, shows and movies have gotten soft, and honestly its truly disappointing that these companies bend the knee and listen to you snowflakes.
I mean that is the point of the sequel bring the experience to the CURRENT younger generstion of course itll look different than the first its been 30 years
Y'all, the video ending in that random music was really jarring. I really enjoy him just taking about his personal thought of the shows/movies at the end.
I loved the fact that the child actress for Mary Sanderson got her mannerisms down so perfectly. I was honestly impressed. I thoroughly enjoyed this sequel overall, i think the only complaint i have is that the last 10-15 minutes felt rushed, I feel that Winnie's realisation regarding her sisters just sort of...happened? And she was totally fine with it???
But yeah I friggin loved this, it was entertaining in a typical disney movie fashion.
Same:
I feel the same way. I liked the idea of them reacting to the modern world and being surprised. I didn't really like the ending, but for the most part it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
They spend way too much time in Wallgreens and should have left more time for Winnie's character growth. Oh well, product placements very important lol
Honestly wish the movie was more of the younger sisters (Like the present "witches, are learning more and more of what happen to the sisters) would of probably helped with the "I love my sisters" ending if the Sisters backstory would of been more fleshed out
Bette Middler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Najimi saved this movie from being a total bomb (also the three girls they got to play Young Winifred, Sarah and Mary, their acting was spot on). But a good 65% of it was dedicated to the main character (whose name I honestly forgot), her sidekick and their teen drama with the other girl (I only remember her as Mayor’s Daughter). So much of this movie was dedicated to “Friendship is the Real Magic” I thought I’d stumbled across a human-version of FiM!
Ultimately if you’re stuck for something to do watch it for Bette Middler, Sarah Jessica Parker and Kathy Najimi, just be sure to bring headphones to drown out the repetitive teen drama crap.
Thanks for a fun review Alex and go hug your animal friends all 💙🐱💙
Yep.
Why do you feel the need to say SARAH JESSICA PARKER and everyone else , 1st name only.🧐
I thought that's the only reason why people even care is because the OG actresses came back. 😆
@@giovannicambranes229 she used everyone’s first and last names though 😭
Yeah. Literally the only reason anyone saw this was for the sisters. If they had just gone full prequel, spending a bit longer with the kids and then showing us how they became more sinister as they grew to adults, I would have totally been here for that. I feel like that idea was probably on the table at some point and literally just got vetoed because they couldn't come up with a 17th-century song for Bette Midler to sing. But considering they couldn't decide whether they wanted to make the sisters sympathetic or give us the villains we love, having them start a little more sympathetic and showing their spiral into chaos would've been a more logical choice.
Okay but honestly I legitimately cried when Winnifred’s sisters died at the end and then my entire family made fun of me for feeling sympathy for people who ate children.
@Ronald Nygma They deleted one of mine, too. I hadn't said anything wrong. I hate bots.
Me too.
Same I almost cried and the people I was watching the movie with were like 😐
Good on them, shame on you
No bc same, but only bc I feel like the other two sisters could've been genuinely good people if Winnie wasn't a satan worshiping, immoral, b*tch. If they were raised better they probably could've been nice.
The original black flame candle was made from the fat of a hangman...where'd Gilbert get his hands on that?
Can we take a moment to talk about Gilbert and how the whole story kickstarted?
Dude literally wanted to bring back the witches because he thought they would be better people in a different era, even though he was well aware of the lore and how they effectively murdered children.
Or how we are supposed to believe he was just casually out trick or treating at 5am in 1993
His story is also a plot hole because at that time all the children of the town would have been under Sarahs spell/trance, thus he should of also been under her spell....
They're really milking the Cruella card with this whole "villain becomes sympathetic"
I found it to actually be enjoyable because the sisters still acted how they did back then, so it just really hit that mark perfectly for me. Obviously not the greatest thing, but it’s worth a watch if you just want to relax I guess.
I enjoyed the supermarket section, watching them greatly misunderstand modern products never gets old.
Sarah yeah for sure. Mary seemed extra murdery in this one, though, and that ending where apparently Winnie has some kind of remorse or conscious? Nah. That kind of ruined her character. I honestly thought they were going to go somewhere with the sister's relationship as a whole when Sarah stood up to Winnie and said she's not just an idiot. That honestly would have been a better path for the ending, the sisters turning on each other when they become power hungry, or just Mary and Sarah turning on Winnie for constantly looking down on them... but it went nowhere. Sarah's moment of empowerment and self-respect just got brushed aside in the next line.
In the original, i never felt like Mary & Sarah were just sidekicks to Winnie. Sure, Winnie was definitely the lead, but I felt like they were all equal in the whole witch game. This movie really implied that the sisters were nothing without Winnie and that just felt off. I guess they were really trying to sell the ending when Winnie feels like she's nothing without her sisters.
@@blueneptune146 I don't think it's out of character. She's cared for her sister since they were young (shown with the beginning) I just think she didn't want to reveal she cared because she was the leader and oldest of the group and usually they have to be the more mature ones in the family.
I personally think that Hocus Pocus 2 felt rushed. Like they were trying to fit the whole plot and character arc into a 2 hour time frame. At the end I think Winnie turned soft a little too easily, like she went from power crazed lunatic to sweet grandma in 5 minutes.
But since when does Winnie care about her sisters? She mocked max and Binx for trying to save theirs.
Well that's *their* families....not hers XD
retcon
I thought the same thing watching it. Didn't the first have a moment near the end where she pushed her sisters away when dawn was approaching so she could have Max's sister's soul all to herself?
I mean that's meant to be the point
It's a you don't miss it till it's gone kind of thing.
She treated her sisters like crap because she knew they'd always be there.
When they weren't she realised what it's like to lose them it's meant to mirror the line from the original film.
Since Disney gave up on trying to do anything interesting or aesthetically valuable, and started relying on the same trite moral every time while continuing to pretend that it's still a twist.
I actually thought Billy was a great character in the first movie. It's really nice to see a friendly zombie in a live-action film and I like that he does what he can to protect the kids.
I play young Mary and I’m literally crying at all the compliments. I really don’t mind the rest of the movie but I’m so happy that people enjoy our first half. All love 💞💞
You were great ♥️♥️♥️.
You guys did so well.
OMG! You were awesome. All I've heard from my friends is how good the young witches are.
@@Cacjams thank you so much 💞💞
You were amazing!!! I hope to see you in the role again!
17:14 Also those 2 kids had a scene when one of them said "do you want to look through windows and see girls undress?" And the other guy replied "It's 3 am the girls are already undressed" WTF?
The beginning of the movie feels like something my high school english teacher would have us act out. Mainly since it feels like some weird stage play and she was also the drama teacher.
Especially since we read the Crucible and also read most of our books where each of us would be a character.
It was cute and campy like the OG, I just wish they would have added some genuinely scary moments. As a 6 year old watching the first one, I was HAUNTED by the image of Emily hanging her head after getting her soul sucked out. The stakes were higher because people died, we even thought binx died part way through. People weren't in any real peril in HP2 :/
Real peril = cancellation. Wouldn't want lawsuits of the youth of 2022 shedding a tear at a traumatic spell in a fictional movie.
@@stevendalloesingh1214 it's not the youth who are to blame, just Disney who is too afraid to take risks anymore
@@stevendalloesingh1214 I'm Gen Z and this movie was garbage.
@@kaitlynlindsay4143 agreed, I do blame Disney. To think that Disney also produced the first movie. That was bone chilling 19 years ago, still holds up today.
@@apocalypsebricksstopmotion6193 I'm 35 (milli) and I agree with you, first one is still a little bit creepy if you have smoked enough Kush.
I just gotta say, I absolutely love the roombas used to fly. They're just so cute, especially when they cleaned up the salt circle lol
Mary's roombas are one of the few bits of this movie I remember that I genuinely liked. That and, "Spread out!" and Sarah literally spreads herself out.
Waaaaaait… Wasn’t the black flame candle made from the flesh of a hangman? Now where did Gilbert…
A lot of people say the characters of the first movie should have been included, but I think it was ok not to have them. I mean, Max gives me the vibe of someone who would like to move to a big city. Especially if he and Dany (and possibly Alison) wanted to get away from anything that had to do with the memory of the Sanderson sisters
You can bring then back for the third movie, that's totally what they're gonna do for maximum nostalgia.
Revenge on max and Alison’s kids would have been a good movie.
Would have been a good sequel if they had made the witches come back to get revenge on the children of the teenage guy and girl (max and Alison I think) who killed them in the first movie and continued on the storyline. They didn’t even have to use the actors, just people who looked similar to play them as older characters.
@@pa4o93ir49 Omg that’s true, it would’ve been interesting
I honestly don’t care they didn’t bring them back because it makes sense why they wouldn’t be there anymore. I personally just really didn’t like the new kids they casted. They were so boring, had 0 character development and were overall unlikable imo but that could be mostly because of poor writing I mean giving them magic was a joke.
Sarah: "Winnie we don't feel so good....."
**Gets dusted**
Also in the second movie we are told that the book was given to the sisters by another witch. In the first movie there is an entire sub-plot about how the book was given to the sisters by the devil. Also, shoutout to the kid who asked what a virgin was💀
I mean u could say it was twisted over the past 300 years to make the Sanderson Sisters seem more evil, cuz clearly the town despised them. So that personally didn't bug me.
I give that one some leeway since it's meant to play up the legendary status of the Sanderson Sisters as these dark and evil characters. It's the same way someone would say "Vlad the Impaler was actually a vampire. Which is why he was so evil."
@@jongon0848 yea thats true but it still kinda bothers me lol
@@jongon0848 that ruins the whole story the whole plot of the first movie is to show them as witches who were once human but sold their soul to escape sexism and be young forever. Also she was married to billy in the first one then the blonde sister cheated with him which is why she hates her
@@lelelew2735 they never said Winifred and Billy were married in the first film. The most Binx says is "Billy Butcherson was Winifred's lover, but she saw him sporting with her sister, Sarah."
9:01 'BWAAAAAAAAAAA!" That made me laugh...
I watched it I swear I got mad bc they didn’t steal any kids souls this time :(
Same
Cringe Af
Indeed, it seemed a bit tamer compared to the original movie, but was still watchable.
Boring movie
Same
If I had to write the movie, i would make it like this:
Becca and Izzy are very worried about their friend Cassie. For months now she has been acting off to the point of becoming unrecognizable: She just looked so gone, like if her mind was constantly out of her body. Recently, out of the blue, Cassie broke up with her two year boyfriend Mike and simply stopped talking them becoming more and more reclusive. They were genuinely surprised though, when Mike told them that Cassie will be going to his annual Halloween party, so maybe this will be the perfect chance to talk to her and see what is going on.
The party was going to be extra creepy this year, being celebrated in the middle of the forest. They both can't wait.
While Becca and Izzy were going costume-shopping for the big party, they decided to go and look around the Sanderson Sisters's house, now transformed into a museum and gift shop. When snooping around to see if there was anything they could add to their costumes, they encounter Gilbert, the excentric owner of the shop, who in conversation, tells them how Cassie has been going to the shop several times a week. Gilbert simply doesn't give them the chance to tell them that they haven't talked to Cassie in weeks, even when he shoves them a package saying to please give it Cassie, that is her "special order"
The order is nothing more than a weird ass candle that is so badly done that they don't understand why Cassie ordered something like that. They were late for the party anyway, so they arrived with candle on toe. The party goes on and Cassie simply doesn't appear, until she does. Appearing in front of Becca demanding her the candle, that it was important.
The minute Becca gives it to her, Cassie tries to leave, but neither Becca or Izzy are having it. They follow her until they reached the deep of the woods, the echoes of the party sounds so distant now but at least Cassie isn't running anymore.
Then She is the one that confronts them, saying how this woods used to be a sacred place, a place of mourning were hundreds of women were unjustly killed for being themselves, for being more powerful than permitted. Becca and Izzie are just confused , they knew that Cassie was good at history, but they never though her was this obsessed about it. Cassie continued by saying that the town continued to profit from their suffering, with stupid parties or the "celebrations" and contests.
She said all this while lighting up the candle, whose flame turns black.
The earth moves
They are back
(to be continued....?)
Continue!!
Continue!
Well it’s still all about the friendship thing but I like your version better than the films. I really wish the witches had been evil.
Oh wow.
THIS IS AMAZING
please continue!
Your version😍
The “power of friendship” arc with teenage girls just seems so bland nowadays and overused, and I say that as one. What was great about the first movie was the emphasis of sibling relationships, especially the way an older brother loves his little sister.
They will never bring the 90s back.
Wouldn’t Gilbert be hypnotized like all of the other kids when Sarah lured them to their house?
I liked it up right until that very first musical number singing "the witches are back." The number just seemed so out of place, and so did some of the other musical numbers. It was kinda like someone said " Ya know what would be a good idea? Broadway. Lets go in that direction with it." I loved the back story and wished we could have gotten more of that. I also wish they could have incorporated more of the original actors because that would have just made perfect total sense for it to be a continuation....this feels more like a reboot with a Broadway twist. I kinda felt like Disney gave all the die hard fans a slap in the face honestly.
What's sad is the song isn't bad at all, but I agree it's really out of place. When the one girl asks "Who are they performing for?", i had been asking the same question myself, like why is this in here? Who (in the audience) is this for? I get that all three of them have been singers in some way. SJP carried the show and played Annie for a year with the original Broadway cast in 1979, Najimi played one of the many singing nuns in Sister Act, and Midler is of course an acclaimed musical artist, but yeah there was no need have extra singing for no apparent reason. I was very worried at that moment that the entire thing was going to be a musical. I love musicals, but that would have been terrible.
@@blueneptune146 I don’t disagree with anything you said. I felt that the whole thing just had a really weak plot. And that ending? OMG, no! That was the weakest piece of crap out of any movie that I had seen in years. Not to mention that they didn’t give the sisters a real strong goal past trying to “pull a Jafar” from Aladdin and try to gain ultimate cosmic power. And when she lost her sisters Winnie went from being a lioness with claws to being no more harmful than a declawed pussy cat in a blink of an eye. They could have done so much better.
@@kimberlyhurlbut4819 I feel like they had two different ideas in mind. One for a sequel centered around the Sanderson sisters and one for a reboot centered around those kids. Neither plot line gets enough screentime for us to care about the girl power/sisterhood power. I mean I just thought the one girl was a closet lesbian for most of the movie, turns out she was iced out by her friends because she got a boyfriend? That was very unclear and weak as hell. Why should I care about them reuniting?
@@4everbuffylover Gosh, yes!!! I didn’t care about the three girls at all. There was nothing there to hold onto except Becca who is somehow and out of nowhere a witch. I didn’t care one bit about their rift because there was no time dedicated to it and it was predictable, WAY too predictable. It’s almost like there was an original script about the three friends and one finding out she’s a witch, but then someone went “hey, let’s make this Hocus Pocus 2, cut some of the friend stuff, and smash two different ideas together!”
"So you're telling me Billy makes out with Winny and then dates her ten year old sister?"
Well I suddenly understand why Winny was so angry.
Billy probably dated Sarah later on in 1693 or a bit earlier. He was killed a few months before Winnie cast that spell on Binx.
Also I remember that in the first movie it says Winifred selled her soul to the devil and in exchange they gave her the book and constantly the main cast says that she selled her soul so... the devil is a hot witch according to hocus pocus lore
The hot witch ain't even supposed to *be* Satan, she was retconned into the story to make the child eaters who are the Sanderson Sisters less evil and more sympathetic.
This is one of your funniest videos 😂 Between the “Lord I’ve seen what you’ve done for others” line and the reason the shop owner not being able to light the candle I was hollering
I found the sequel to be rather enjoyable for what it was. I wasn't going in expecting it to be amazing by any means. It delivered what it wanted and that was bringing the sisters back. Quite honestly, I was more impressed they somewhat recreated that 90's feel to it
How could they do that? How could this new batch of teenagers be Gen-X jerks? (I didn't like the "heroes" of the first movie, as you can probably tell.)
idk what you’re talking about recreating the 90’s feel, but yeah i liked the sequel too.
Yes, same here and I liked everything except for the ending, that was just bad
Ya it's a cheap movie made for a streaming service capitalizing on old viewers while trying to appease a new audience and it does it.. fine its good for what it is
I agree! My fav part was when they were in Walgreens lol
My heart dies a little knowing how indifferent he is to Billy's existence. At least he was mentioned this time I guess...
You forgot about the post credit scene where it shows that Gilbert had another Black Flame Candle in his shop which opens the opportunity to a 3rd movie that will probably be way worse than this one
I wonder where they got the hanged man's fat to make more candles.
Lol it was obvious they were planning a sequel as soon as the gave the girls the book at the end
cue Scooby-Doo catphrase in 3...2...
@@4everbuffyloverwe don’t want those card board cut out girls back for part three. Get max and Allison back as parents to their own kid who lights the black flame xnadle
When I was a kid, I was scared of the Sanderson sisters. But in the new movie… they room away the slight fear factor and childrenized it…
I watched this last night and it’s basically fanfiction.
Literally
Truly terrible
Pretty bad fan fic, doesn't even have a pregnant Sonic
True
The kids who played the young Sanderson sisters did a great job with the mannerisms. I enjoyed this the same way I enjoyed the first one. Cheesy fun.
The movie was SOO bad! Who thought giving the literal child murders a sympathetic backstory and redemption was a good idea? I get that the Sisters are the draw, so I understand why they're the main characters. But man, watching this right after Hocus Pocus, there are some really weird decisions they go with. Also, the book bound in human flesh having moral qualms about any of its spells seemed bizarre.
It's not the first time Disney made a movie that gave sad backstories to reprehensible women. Looking at you two Maleficent and Cruella.
@@dime-a-thousand8002 And turned them from evil to good and misunderstood
They had a lot of “main characters” and so nothing worked. Hocus Pocus works because it’s a simple story about kids running away from witches on Halloween night. Obviously there’s more details to that story, but it’s all centered around the kids. In this movie, we’ve got the SUPER IRRITATING shopkeeper, the mildly irritating girl who obviously has witch powers and her friend, and the witches. Then on top of that they have that super unnecessary bit with the Mayor and his caramel apple that wasn’t connected to anything or amusing.
@@4everbuffylover I was reading this and thought I wrote it for a minute! Haha these are my exact criticisms. The shopkeeper and the mayor were both filler plots because they didn't have enough to fill a movie run time with just the 2-3 teenage girls and the witches. There was just no real sense of danger in this movie. Sure, they're goofy which makes it hard to take their threat too seriously, but in the original, they have killed and are absolutely ready to do so again. Even being goofy in the original, you still get a sense of danger from them. Not at all in this go around. And to anybody over the age of 7 that was surprised that main teen girl was a witch the whole time - really? Were we watching the same movie? There wasn't foreshadowing, no. There was forelighting. We could see that from a mile away.
@@4everbuffylover I blame Road Chip for why Tony Hale, the actor playing the mayor, has been in really crummy kids movies lately. Clifford the Big Red Dog, Toy Story 4, The Angry Birds Movies, ect.
"WE MARCH AT DAWN!"
Why did this make me nearly cackle at the office??
I was pretty excited to watch it, watched it the day it dropped. It was just okay to me, sadly. It definitely had its moments which I liked. It feels like it could've been a lot better. One of the things that I liked for example was their little song spell didn't seem so useless. In the original they used it to just keep all the parents in the building dancing, but in the sequel they actually USED it to USE the parents to try to hunt down and find her dad so that they could complete the spell. Another thing - the items which they rode on. In the original it was just a joke haha she has a vacuum because there's only one broom. And while yes they did do that again this time, one of them got two roombas. BUT those actually became useful and served a purpose in getting rid of the salt that they used to trap them with.
But both of this instances makes no sense.
First the song spell: In the first movie, all of them kept their conscience, in fact, the spell seemed to just force them to WANT to keep partying, in the end the parents even comment on how they liked to party and how similar it was to LA. So they were still awake, they just really wanted to party.
Secondly the items: I liked that they got new ones, but the roombas helping them doesn't really make sense as well, the roombas were controlled by magic, so they should have been affected by the salt barrier, if the problem was just things that were literally magic, no physical, then the sisters themselves could've just... Brushed the salt aside?
The first movie makes sense all throughout, the second movie looks amazing and feels amazing in the Sanderson sisters parts, but the rest? It looks ok, but it feels like a low budget Disney movie from the 2000s...
@@SonicluNerdGamer They couldn't just have brushed the salt away. Because in that scene, they can't even get past the barrier, it's like an it's forcing them in. So they can't even touch it. It's like a wall blocking them. Even in the first movie they knew they couldn't do anything about a salt barrier.
In the first movie the spell was just to make them all want to keep dancing. So there wasn't really a purpose for it other than "lol keep dancing forever". In the second movie the spell actually served purpose because it made the parents actively hunt (while dancing) for the guy they needed in order to cast the spell, not only that but it WORKED because they found him.
@@roll3886 yeah the song might have worked, but it lead to nothing. The people under influence of the spell found him, but nothing came out of it. They didn't catch him and turn him over to the witches. They made this whole thing about the mayor being their enemy because of what his ancestor did (played by the same actor to make a point) and in the end it just fizzled out. Taking his daughter instead didn't have the same feel to me. That's what I found lacking about this entire movie, nothing lead to anything. The whole maxima power thing didn't even give a big confrontation after having a big part of the movie about that, again it just fizzled out. My sister and I were stunned when we saw that part, we were like "That's it??"
@@EmilysStar They didn't have the confrontation because they got interrupted and then it was the three girls against the three sisters, after which the detriment of the spell went into effect with Winifred's sisters. I don't disagree with a lot of the critique because like I said in my original post, they definitely could've done a lot more and they left a lot to be desired here. And they never did explain how the sisters even came back to begin with since at the end of the first movie they turned to stone and then dust completely, all three of them. Yet somehow lighting the candle again with the spell somehow....un-dusted them? Even though at the end of the second they were all dust again....which means turning to dust doesn't really mean anything and is not as a defeating thing as we once thought it was. It just means they're temporarily gone until another spell/candle comes along which is just kind of dumb.
Why must everything be turned into a basic Netflix teen movie
bc woke people are insane evil, and need to destroy everything pure thats why
You haven't even seen the Forrest Gump reboot where instead of being stupid, he's misunderstood and is a pouty and whining little bitch
the whole Walgreens scene was a great big product placement. 😂 them drinking the beauty products was funny to me I'm surprised u didn't mention that.
It was funny
Also that they discovered their fandom
OOOH YOURE RIGHT!!! I DID JOT NOTICE THAT
Yes!! I was like wtf? The product placement of Walgreens, maybelline, the bath salts, swifter and those vacuums.
It had its cute moments but this movie wasn’t for me at all.
8:50 that was the best line in the whole movie…. ”nooope” lmao
My wife summed it up as more of a Disney Channel movie than a proper Disney movie.
It just didn't feel like a movie, this was definitely a Halloween special ft The Sanderon Sisters
Good way to put that !
As another fellow Iowan (I'm from Des Moines), I always love whenever you mention Iowa in any of your videos. Even if it's to point out there's nothing to do here and that people are far too eager to get married and start families before they can legally buy a beer😂
Iowans unite lol
It's a little frightening to hear there are people my age out there with _GRANDKIDS_ .
Iowa gang! (Does it count if I just lived there for a few years?)
Oh wow I’m planning to move over there from Texas! I thought Iowa was super beautiful and had plenty to do! Lol but then again I’m from an oil field town that only has the movies as entertainment (plus a mall)
@@whyamidoingthisjustsaying Oh yeah, you'll still love it here! I feel like as Iowans we love to joke about how much it "sucks" but I still love it here😂 Personally I love Des Moines and how nice people are (also not to mention the super cheap cost of living). Can't beat Iowa Nice!
Disney exec: Hey, remember that Hocus-pocus movie?
Director: Yeah?
DE: Let's do a sequel.
D: OK
DE: Also remember the Sanderson sisters?
D: The devil worshipping, child murdering sisters who make candles from dead men and have a human skin book that appears to be possessed by an evil force who condemned a young boy to live forever as a cat, almost made most of a town dance until they died and tried to bang a dude they thought was the devil?
DE: Yeah, them. So lets make them sympathetic this time around.
Im super surprised you didn’t mention how at Gilbert’s shop a little kid asked Gilbert what a virgin was. The whole scene honestly mad me laugh 😂
“A virgin is someone who has never lit a candle” 😂
Honestly Gilbert and the jock were the best parts of the movie
Yeah I was pretty sure he was gonna say something about it then he didn’t. 😢
I was laughing so hard! I was shocked that he didn't actually mention that either I was waiting for it. Lol
Gilbert's response was priceless 😅. Other than that the only good parts were with the original characters.
The only appeal this movie had for me was watching the Sanderson sisters do more goofy shit across town while trying to complete their scheme. It succeeded in that so I enjoyed this movie. Plus I did like how many small details would go over someone's head if they hadn't watched the original recently. (Not the obvious ones like the singing scene, but more like the small ones like the fact that some guy was literally watching the original movie in his house while the sanderson sisters flew by.)
Same. I expected it to be predictable, but as long as there were witch sister hijinks, I chalked it up to a win.
I watched that atrocity and was immediately looking forward to this video.
I didn't watch it as I knew it would be an atrocity but was looking forward to this video
“How bad can I possibly be? Let’s see”
Hocus Pocus was my favorite Halloween movie growing up, I enjoyed the dark humor of it and how it’s timeline related to the Salem witch trial’s, And the beginning when the witch gave Winifred the book didn’t match the original, because Winifred said The devil himself gave her the book and she had been to hell and found it lovely. Which just keeps driving me crazy
At least Billy didn’t lose his head this time!🤣
I mostly just thought it was fun to watch just because of how much fun it looks like the Sanderson sisters were having returning to these characters.
They made a book version of this with a sequel, and I liked that sequel a lot. That one followes Max and Allison's daughter, and I don't know, I just like it a lot better. I think it would have been interesting if this movie went in that direction. It feels more true to the original. Plus, one of the characters has lightning powers.
I think the og actors (at least one of them) didn’t want to come back so if they went that direction they would have to recast (which could be really criticized) or do something else (like they did).
@Jasmine N. Hocus Pocus and the all New Sequel. The first half is pretty much the original movie, and from my understanding a little more back ground information involving " mother" the second half is the sequel, following Max and Allison's daughter. I haven't read it yet, because of the mixed reviews on the sequel part of it.
3:49 😂 that should not have made me laugh this hard, my little sister actually reacts “interesting” stuff of sonic and tails and I’m just like whyyyyyyyyy. God help her. Also great vid loved this always find your jokes and animation awesome.
There is no way this sequel would have been received well at all.
The original is too iconic.
BUT, it could have been worse and ruin the first one like many sequels love to do.
trueeee i rlly don’t think a lot of people will love it, personally i liked it because of gilbert and billy and obvi the sisters but when she became a witch too i thought it was odd
anytime alex starts with a video saying "how bad could it be" i just know it's going to be a great video
I liked the main girls, they seemed relatable and weren't annoying. I wished that the jock boyfriend had more screentime, he had the funniest lines, but randomly disappeared towards the end.
Because he's dead
Ik
Well it’s technically a chicky flicky so their gonna write off the lead man as quickly as possible
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@@Jinaria101 why?
"Why do I do this to myself?"-Alex Meyers. This is the greatest quote ever said.