"Hotage negotiation? Haha no, I do parking tickets and shoplifters. One sec, lemme make a call though, I'll get you the right people. I don't get paid enough for that crazy garbage. Hey, cool gun!"
If I was sitting in jail for years and the police came in and told me “hey bud get up you’re free to leave here and go rob a bank with your buddy or something, that cool with you?” I would have no other questions
No, you fools. Can't you see that you have potential upper hand in this? You need to bargain, cops are asking you to do favor for them. It's not a treat they are offering for you, it's help they are asking from you. You need to make them know your time is expensive, even if you're in prison. So what are you gonna ask from them as return?
@@williamlindstrom9870 Yeah stockholm syndrome isn't a real syndrome because this basically never happened anywhere else. This is a truly freak occurrence, every other hostage situation they are almost always traumatized and are at least indifferent to the terrorists. The concept of "stockholm syndrome" wasn't invented by any doctor but by the lawyers representing Patty Hearst who had to excuse her actions supposedly in support of weird terrorist group.
I love the calm conversation at the start Police comes in: “Uuhh hello?” Erik: “You the negotiator?” Police: “Uhh no. I can call them tho.” Erik: “Okay you do that”
honestly as someone who is still very new at customer service and still learning how to actually speak to people professionally this is just how i sound whenever i pick up the phone at work
probably also asked for a school work for the whole class (then also used the free no work card), then reminded the teacher of the homework that the teacher gave. Probably also asked the teacher long rambling questions, she probably also borrowed other kids' homework only to return them full of piss and drawing
I think it was part of the era, back then the community feeling was very strong there is Sweden. We didn't want to hurt our people unless absolutely necessary.
@@CWINDOWSsystem32 not really, no. If that happened today and the police had fired, that would have been a disaster. I mean except in america maybe where they think that discharging your gun is regular routine when faced with opponents, but everywhere else in the world where police actually gets de escalation training, noone would have fired a shot in that situation. I doubt that was the officers intend in the first place
Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated? I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else. Gets me frustrated. Just admit that you love the videos I make, my dear qc
pulling out an inmate to go participate in a bank robbery is about the funniest thing i've heard in awhile. So, after the cops pulled him out of prison and took him to the bank were they just like "okay bro were here, go on in and start doing bank robbery stuff. We'll see ya in a while when we face off against you. Bye now!"
Not realy what happened irl, Clark was called to help negotiate but when he saw an opening he ran in to the bank an joined Olsson. Not planned by the police.
@@chillbro1010 there is zero chance the cops expected him to go in there and try to convince him to stand down. They most likely knew he would be used to facilitate the robbery but wanted to ensure safety for the hostages at that point, not knowing how if they were likely to kill them.
@@PsychotropicThundermaybe they sent him with the condition to try and free the hostages and he would get a reduced sentence. I'm sure that would entice him into helping. And maybe they weren't happy with how he acted so they tried to charge him for the robbery too. It's hard to tell from this video what the specifics with clark were
Well, you joke, but in Russia, this is how they do things FOR REAL. (look up Budyonnovsk (three times they tried to storm it shooting), the Moscow theatre (using toxic gas), Beslan (firing with tanks).
I understand your confusion, OP. I had to look it up myself. Turns out there's this whole place, like halfway around the planet, where the people are white and speak English, but they have accents and also speak Foreigner. I had no idea, why don't they tell us about these things when we're kids at school?
The bank robbing game Payday 2 letting you have hostages revive you, convert guards to fight for you, and exchange a hostage for a 'downed' bank robber starts to make sense when you realize the game developers are based in Sweden.
I knew a guy who robbed the bank with a pocket knife. They gave him 50 dollar and he ran away to his bicycle which he had standby outside to flee the scene. But he had put locks on the bicycle because he was scared someone would steal it. It was then the police arrived and arrested him :)
@@bastiananuss1727 but we usually only give money and a means of escape which is usually bugged or tapped we would never give them more weapons or another criminal to help
Ten years? After taking hostages in an armed robbery...ten years? Even in the UK, where sentencing is a joke he'd have received a lot more than ten years. Do the same thing in the USA and you could expect a sentence running into three figures.
Brendan Abbott from Australia has been in solitary since 1998 for the same thing plus escaping jail twice. I wish someone would do a video on him because he needs more attention bought to his unjust imprisonment. Murderers get less.
In finland life cententence lasts on avarge 14 years and longest life cententence served in finland was 25 years. Also you can get only one life cententence and its the longest possible cententence you can get.
Yeah, what's worse is when people get only like 2-3 years for rape. Like, even if our prison system is super good, two years isn't gonna change or stop anyone
As an American I will say we don't have the word "Hostage" in our dictionary. The real translation into American-ish is "Acceptable Casualty". Thank you for understanding.
Dodge Stoic? Are you out of your mind? ICTV Stoic and 2/9 Stoic are the way to go for that perk deck And Yakuza basically only works for stealth, even though it was designed as an armor build. Running it with dodge is suicide
love that game. also love the perk where you can turn hostile police officers into allies. i don’t know why it’s so funny to me but seeing full uniform cops fire on their coworkers is the epitome of “i don’t get paid enough for this shit”
Jesus, the last two minutes of this made me laugh until I was nearly sick. Proper honing your craft man, huge props to ya, been here since about 32k, glad to see you blowing up in numbers, hugely deserved.
Fun fact: There is actually a swedish series that was released 5th May 2022. It's based on Clark Olofsson and the whole thing was actually pretty on point.
Swedish hostage tactics: give them everything they want. Russian hostage tactics: meth gas. American tactics: rush their asses, they ain’t getting out of this
Cops: Hey, there's a guy robbing a bank and he wants you to join him, so we're making you do it. Cops: Yeah, you know that bank we made you rob, yeah uhmm, we're charging you with robbing a bank. Guy: Hello, Entrapment!
the brain does amazingly counter intuitive things to stay in control of a persons little bubble of a world, if you've ever met a person who always refuses to admit their wrong about anything ever, that's the brain at work protecting their fragile ego.
I mean the first part was right, but “fragile ego” is a bit of a weird way to put it. See, our brains have a limited amount of power to think about things. In a regular situation, people have time and power to think about rights and wrongs, and to improve their self. But, sometimes the brain has too much stress on it, so it can’t allocate as much power to that kind of thinking. That’s probably why Stockholm Syndrome happens, because the brain doesn’t have enough power to think critically about anything other than its own survival, and if their captors are semi-nice to them, then the brain just takes that as their captor liking them. Also why some people refuse to admit they’re wrong about stuff, because of unnatural amounts of stress, caused by maybe home life, toxic relationships, financial situation, etc.
@@portman3950 While those are very much possibilities, you must admit that 'fragile ego' is up there, too. Not particularly uncommon, either. Regardless of circumstance, there's very few excuses for lack of self awareness. Sure, one may lapse from time to time. Maybe even for an extended period, who knows. But if someone has a constant problem of admitting fault, over many months, or even years, then those few excuses run down to just about zero. All of those situations you mentioned should only count as excuses for so long before it is less of an effect of stress, and more of an intrinsic trait that is simply being ignored or, god forbid, accepted by the one bearing it.
@@portman3950 everybody to some degree has a level of self reflective tolerance, some can take a joke, other's can't and when they can't what do they do? they get defensive, its what the brain does to protect its self from introspective harm and self doubt, its part of what the ID does since it controls the baser wants of the mind, and when those wants are threatened on a psychological level, the brain will pretzel whatever way it can to stay in the right. I have this one friend who is such a horrible person, but if you bring up anything he's done in the past, his defense mechanism is to blank it out and not remember it, he even did that when I had a picture of him ripping up some of my old game magazines, his brain was utterly in denial even though he had facts staring him in the face, the brain just does that if your that kind of person, and it does that on some degree even for normal people.
@@dt99022 I know people in real life who will twist their own moral code upside down just to not be proven wrong in an argument, i'm not saying everyones minds do that, put on some level everybody lies to themselves to a degree to protect their ego, it's apart of basic psychology if you get the the part about the ID
One fun fact to add is that the person the police originally thought the bank robber was phoned in from abroad after a successful bank robbery to complain to the police that he was not the person in the bank doing that particular robbery. The police promptly phoned the authorities of said country and then went there on a plane to pick him up.
Hmmm. You're buried deep in a comments section with a boilerplate statement... but my coffee is right next to me, rich, warm and comforting. I think I know who cares more about my well-being.
I know it’s a lot of effort creating the animations in tales from the bottle but it is by far your best content mate. Love your narration as well. All the best from Aus 🇦🇺
I guess the old adage is true, truth is stranger than fiction. Keep up the great story telling Qxir. Don't know how you do it but they keep getting better.
1:33 haha this isn't constructed as normal-storg, "norr" means north, malm means ore(?) and "torg" means something like public square/market, so the translation is "north ore square" (the s is part of malm as in "malms" the same way we'd say ore's in english)
Nah that’s Russia, the US usually saves most of the hostages. Meanwhile Russia gasses and kills them or storms a school rigged with explosives which then explode killing most of the hostages.
@@jerrell1169 I never said America doesn't save hostages, however compare to Western European countries America Swat teams are more likely to shoot 1 or 2 hostages.
As enjoyable as these are to watch already, this one thus far takes the cake as my favorite due to how insane the story is and how well delivered it was (especially factoring in your own disbelief at some of the events in the story)
It’s a little weird that the original Stockholm Syndrome hostages don’t follow one the traits we associate with it now, at least in pop culture it’s deemed that Stockholm syndrome only effects people while they’re under duress as they try and make sense of the situation, but if these people visited the bank robbers after and became friends, it probably just means they became friends after spending a week together. If it was just a means of calming themselves in the moment they wouldn’t have done that.
They also were acting rationally when they believed the police posed the biggest threat to them, for all the robbers might have threatened to kill them they knew it would only come to that if the police escalated the situation, the robbers would never have killed the hostages for no reason and lost their only negotiating factor.
@@harveyholmes9533 And it didn't help when Sweden's Prime Minister went totally nuts when he was talking to a hostage on the phone. The *actual hostage* kept her cool a hell of a lot better than the dude running her country.
It also really kicks in with the refusal to get in the car. It's not hard to put yourself in the shoes of the hostage, and work out that if this person who has not yet actually harmed you - only the bank - loses their leverage, they could die. When the robber says "if you get in the car I'll drop you off and once I'm safe you're safe, but if you don't get in the car I'll be killed in a chase or a shootout" it's easy to see that as an attractive way for everyone to go home to their families. You may not want to help the bank robber, but you don't want to feel any reasponsibility for his death.
@@johnladuke6475 >Man does something stupid, forces you to get involved and potentiality put you in harms way >Should already understand what he's doing is incredibly stupid and dangerous >Does it anyway >Dies >Oh no I feel responsible for his death! I envy Americans sometimes. Americans can at least understand someone elses idiocy is their own fault.
@@deltan6212 It's easy to make the call as a moral abstract. Spend a week with that guy not hurting you. Then he looks you in the face and says "if you don't get in the car, I'm a dead man." His predicament may be of his own making, but if you can look in someone's eyes and end their life without remorse, you're among only about 2% of the human species... we call those people "psychopaths" and "sociopaths" and they usually end up in either an asylum or a prison.
Nah, it's a symbiotic relationship. We provide steady food without hunting and lots of ear scratches, and they keep the wolves away. I don't see any wolves around here, so it must be working.
There is also a helicotper bank heist that happened in Sweden. Though i'm not sure if that story is just as worth sharing. You could however make a tales from the bottle episode of the SS bank heist in 1945, the story exists on Mark Feltons channel.
I had vague memories of this - I was about 7 at the time, so I never really learned all the details, just that there was a long hostage-taking bank robbery in Stockholm. I knew what Stockholm Syndrome meant, and that it had clearly come from _a_ hostage situation, but I had assumed (much later on when I was an adult and really learned what it meant) that it had been a much longer hostage situation than it actually was. It would be an interesting comparison to see if there is any case which is similar (not the bringing of the guy from prison, I can't see that happening! But then again...) in a different country, and if the outcome was similar. Assuming everyone got out alive, of course. Yet again, a fascinating story. Thank you :)
Only a few of his videos I hadn't watched due to topics I personally wasn't interested in. I must now watch them all because this was one of my favorites. Had me rolling at how ridiculous this whole event was.
When I learned about the origin of the term Stockholm Syndrome, I was surprised it came from an actual case. After learning about this case, it was clear the hostages weren't under some psychological effect or coping mechanism, it was the press, acadmemics and the gov't that used the "stockholm syndrome" explanation to downlplay the and cope with reality. The fact was that the bankrobbers involved were very friendly, curteous, and ensured their hostages they were not going to hurt them. The hostages were frightened at first, but after spending so much time with them, they knew the robbers were just trying to gain freedom, and had no intention of putting the hostages in harms way. They were extremely friendly and got to know each of the hostages, and talked / joked around with them, always in a relatively cheery mood. They only displayed hostility to the police. Despite the police caving into most of the demands from the start, the began to get very brazen and reckless. Especially knowing that the police didn't know the robbers weren't serious about hurting the hostages, they risked the hostages lives on several occasions. They had sharpshooters constantly aiming inside, right through the hostages, and police fired errant shots on a couple occasions that could have killed any of them. Of course, the Police risked a hostage's life right off the bat by giving them marked bills. They also refused to let the robbers take hostages in a get-away vehicle, the last demand they had. The hostages knew that if the police let the robbers take the hostages, they would be unharmed and the entire ordeal would be done within a couple hours. By refusing the final demand, the hostages chances of being executed rose statistically, EVEN if they personally felt these robbers wouldn't, the fact the cops did not allow it not only sent the message to the hostages that catching the prisoners and money meant more than the hostages lives to the police involved, but the police also ensured this ordeal would last much, MUCH longer. On top of all this, the police acted rude and sketchy during the whole thing, which AGAIN, sent the message that the hostages weren't important, and that they wanted to just end it in a violent shootout which would absolutely endanger EVERYONE's lives. With how the cops were behaving, the robbers in comparison really did treat the hostages well. They promised to each of them that they weren't going to harm them, and that "they were only doing this to gain their freedom". They even thanked them for being understanding. By all accounts, these guys actually meant it, and it really did put the hostages at ease. By comparison, the police were actually a bigger threat at this point. The police only had to let the hostages go with the robbers for an hour unfollowed to end it, but instead dragged out the process and kept inching closer to a wild shootout. A normal person would have likely felt more kinship with the robbers at this point than the police. All of this was pretty much confirmed when the police locked the hostages inside with the robbers, and then began to pump gas inside the safe. Again, the police did not know how serious these guys really were, but had they been as serious as they claimed, they could have executed all the hostages and took their own lives for this - sending the message to the hostages that the money and prisoners were more important than the hostages lives. This gas made the hostages very ill, with one even injuring themselves falling over. The police handled this whole mess absolutely horribly, and it's no wonder the hostages were behind the robbers after everything, no stockholm syndrome needed. The police seemingly gave in too much and too easily right away, the overcompensated by playing hardball and gambling recklessly with the hostage's lives afterwards. Many of the hostages believed the police sharpshooters would shoot through their own throat just to get a chance to hit one of the bankrobbers - that's how bad the cops were. Afterwards, when the hostages defended the robbers and claimed they were nice, while simultaneously condemning the police and accusing them of risking their lives on multiple occasions, it was not received well. Even though it was factually true, the police needed a explanation for such a reaction, so they got theoretical psychologists to mock up a propagandistic explanation for the hostages' comments, and used the press to publicize this new "Stockholm Syndrome" condition as a explanation. Many of the details surrounding this event weren't public at the time, so this psychological phenomenon was accepted at face value by the public. Pretty much every case of "Stockholm Syndrome" is similar. Just because a criminal is committing crime, it doesn't mean they are unlikable, uncaring, selfish, violent, terrifying, unsympathetic or antisocial, even if the odds are they are more likely to be. Just like how a hero or humanitarian is not necessarily friendly, selfless, kind, giving, empathetic, or likable, even if many of them are. Police can be great, kind, efficient, courageous and careful as well as egotistical, cocky, stupid, cowardly, selfish and trigger-happy scumbags. Sometimes you will get a mix of a very likable and kind hostage taker going up against selfish, shitty police. Hostages can, and have, sided with their own hostage takers in that situation, and the term "Stockholm-Syndrome" is the applied. There may be a psychological phenomenon that has hostages begin to identify with their captors, but that often occurs over very long periods of time, in addition to social isolation and fear. In cases of child abuse, abusive relationships, coach-athlete abuse, sex-trafficking and other cases, this effect is a measurable coping mechanism. As for these temporary bank-heist ordeals, Stockholm syndrome is likely just a make-believe theory of an imaginary psychological condition used to explain the instances when hostages develop some sort of kinship their captors (because all hostage-takers MUST be evil and hated), and/or when the police are criticized by hostages (because all police have to be commended as amazing, professional heroes after a hostage stand-off, no matter who gets hurt or how poorly the police handled it). That's just the truth of the matter.
THANK you for posting the actual story!! Don't forget the misogyny angle either with these police and psychologist men being angry that the women didn't like them, concluded it had to be some kind of new disorder! Really disappointed Qxir didn't cover the real (and much more interesting) story.
Yeah I remember the last time someone put a noose around my neck the first thing I thought was "wow these guys are really friendly".The bank was robbed at gunpoint, your take on the situation is really dumb.
They did make a movie about this, haven't seen it but the trailer was in the recommended vidoes, wonder if they omit the part where they let the guy out of prison🤔
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Oklahoma bombing video when?
4:38 is a training scenario.
You can tell because they dont have magazines.
You know the guys from cyanide and happiness came up with a whole web series about this
Still waiting on one on Eddie Chapman
That 1st officer was probably like "Not my problem, I'm not dying today."
"Hotage negotiation? Haha no, I do parking tickets and shoplifters. One sec, lemme make a call though, I'll get you the right people. I don't get paid enough for that crazy garbage. Hey, cool gun!"
I got a Lego shit to build
If I was sitting in jail for years and the police came in and told me “hey bud get up you’re free to leave here and go rob a bank with your buddy or something, that cool with you?” I would have no other questions
I might have a couple....
@@johngalt2506 Me too, but I'm still thinking I can just ask them on the way to the bank.
Chad move.
No, you fools. Can't you see that you have potential upper hand in this? You need to bargain, cops are asking you to do favor for them. It's not a treat they are offering for you, it's help they are asking from you. You need to make them know your time is expensive, even if you're in prison. So what are you gonna ask from them as return?
I'll just be like, “ok, cool, see you soon probably,” then go about destroying my life.
"don't shoot!" either stockholm syndrome set in REAL quick or these hostages were fucked up from the start.
Ahhhahah true im swedish and always wodered about that
@@williamlindstrom9870 Yeah stockholm syndrome isn't a real syndrome because this basically never happened anywhere else. This is a truly freak occurrence, every other hostage situation they are almost always traumatized and are at least indifferent to the terrorists.
The concept of "stockholm syndrome" wasn't invented by any doctor but by the lawyers representing Patty Hearst who had to excuse her actions supposedly in support of weird terrorist group.
@@Treblaine its happened quite a bit with kidnapping
i don't see a problem with the thought of the stockholm syndrome setting in way quicker for some people.
@@Treblaine thanks for the info. When you think about it, it really was a fucked situation
I love the calm conversation at the start
Police comes in: “Uuhh hello?”
Erik: “You the negotiator?”
Police: “Uhh no. I can call them tho.”
Erik: “Okay you do that”
I totally missed any crustacean conversation in the story.
I sure do love clams
sorry but i’m allergic to seafood
Sorry, there were no clams in the story, you lied
honestly as someone who is still very new at customer service and still learning how to actually speak to people professionally this is just how i sound whenever i pick up the phone at work
The girl that yelled "don't shoot" was definitely the person in school to remind the teacher they forgot to give homework
probably also asked for a school work for the whole class (then also used the free no work card), then reminded the teacher of the homework that the teacher gave. Probably also asked the teacher long rambling questions, she probably also borrowed other kids' homework only to return them full of piss and drawing
Hahahahaha!!😂😂
Yeah, and she doesn't fair too well at lunch time either -- I eat alone.
I think it was part of the era, back then the community feeling was very strong there is Sweden. We didn't want to hurt our people unless absolutely necessary.
@@informitas0117 This situation didn't constitute absolute necessity?
@@CWINDOWSsystem32 not really, no. If that happened today and the police had fired, that would have been a disaster. I mean except in america maybe where they think that discharging your gun is regular routine when faced with opponents, but everywhere else in the world where police actually gets de escalation training, noone would have fired a shot in that situation. I doubt that was the officers intend in the first place
They got him the mustang knowing that Americans crash them so much.
Only when they're a Marine
@@monkeyboy600 i mad, sad, and quite possibly offended 🤣
@@christiantaylor7883 pfp checks out. at least it wasn't the camaro you were promised though given your picture is in black and white, the corvette.
so true!
That's probably why they didn't want the hostages to go with him. So they wouldn't get hurt when the "American" crashed the mustang.
Trust on the Police: weak
Trust on robber kidnaping me: STRONG
Why'd you have to go and make things so complicated? I see the way you're acting like you're somebody else. Gets me frustrated. Just admit that you love the videos I make, my dear qc
When AxxL starts coming in, you know Qxir has made it
In*. It’s “trust in” not “trust on” .
@@crakkbone im gona "trust in" your dad
You dyslexic?
I’m dying that they tried to charge him. That’s so so brutal
Poor clark
its insane the poor guy
if anyone should be charge it should be the police for giving in to ridiculous demands
Typical Sweden
Well like he said, noone got killed this way, if this happened in America I'm sure half the hostages would have died
pulling out an inmate to go participate in a bank robbery is about the funniest thing i've heard in awhile. So, after the cops pulled him out of prison and took him to the bank were they just like "okay bro were here, go on in and start doing bank robbery stuff. We'll see ya in a while when we face off against you. Bye now!"
Not realy what happened irl, Clark was called to help negotiate but when he saw an opening he ran in to the bank an joined Olsson. Not planned by the police.
I couldn’t stop laughing at the fact they charged Clark with the robbery... that seriously sent me 😂
@@chillbro1010 there is zero chance the cops expected him to go in there and try to convince him to stand down. They most likely knew he would be used to facilitate the robbery but wanted to ensure safety for the hostages at that point, not knowing how if they were likely to kill them.
@@PsychotropicThundermaybe they sent him with the condition to try and free the hostages and he would get a reduced sentence. I'm sure that would entice him into helping. And maybe they weren't happy with how he acted so they tried to charge him for the robbery too. It's hard to tell from this video what the specifics with clark were
That was one of the funniest things I've heard in forever 😂
This needs more Stock photos to feel more at holm
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As an american... I approve of the way you phrase American hostage rescue tactics
I know right.😂😂
"FUCK the hostages and FUCK everyone else; we're goin' in, Johnson"
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IT WORKS
what are you going to do now? Shoot the hostages? Too late, bucko
USA USA USA
Well, you joke, but in Russia, this is how they do things FOR REAL. (look up Budyonnovsk (three times they tried to storm it shooting), the Moscow theatre (using toxic gas), Beslan (firing with tanks).
"Stockholm... the Capital of Sweden... a country in Europe."
Me: "Your Up?"
He's talking to us Americans lmao. Even though I knew that..
I understand your confusion, OP. I had to look it up myself. Turns out there's this whole place, like halfway around the planet, where the people are white and speak English, but they have accents and also speak Foreigner. I had no idea, why don't they tell us about these things when we're kids at school?
Europe? What state is that?
@@James-mi5qt I think that's a moon orbiting Jupiter...
@@kurtisgonzales37 Does it have oil?
The bank robbing game Payday 2 letting you have hostages revive you, convert guards to fight for you, and exchange a hostage for a 'downed' bank robber starts to make sense when you realize the game developers are based in Sweden.
AAAAAAAAAHHH I NEED A MEDIC BAG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
I heard of Stockholm syndrome for the first time in Payday 2.
I knew a guy who robbed the bank with a pocket knife. They gave him 50 dollar and he ran away to his bicycle which he had standby outside to flee the scene. But he had put locks on the bicycle because he was scared someone would steal it. It was then the police arrived and arrested him :)
lmao
American "never give hostage takers anything"
Sweeds "Car, Money, Fellow prisoner, Guns"
haha really liked that although its not true at all. american police regularly makes deals with criminals in order to free 'important' people
Rope, oil, bombs you want it? It's yours my friend
@@Matt-vh2ci "Oil, cars, guns, you want it? It's yours my friend, as long as you have enough hostages!"
@@bastiananuss1727 but we usually only give money and a means of escape which is usually bugged or tapped we would never give them more weapons or another criminal to help
@@QuackerHead-j Sorry link, i cant give these things. Come back when you have enough _mmmmmmm_ people!
Ten years?
After taking hostages in an armed robbery...ten years?
Even in the UK, where sentencing is a joke he'd have received a lot more than ten years.
Do the same thing in the USA and you could expect a sentence running into three figures.
Brendan Abbott from Australia has been in solitary since 1998 for the same thing plus escaping jail twice.
I wish someone would do a video on him because he needs more attention bought to his unjust imprisonment. Murderers get less.
Touche. One must remember to research the laws of an area before committing any crimes. What is or is not illegal differs across every areas lines.
In finland life cententence lasts on avarge 14 years and longest life cententence served in finland was 25 years. Also you can get only one life cententence and its the longest possible cententence you can get.
Yeah, what's worse is when people get only like 2-3 years for rape. Like, even if our prison system is super good, two years isn't gonna change or stop anyone
Haha its so much worse now
This is literally just an average heist in payday
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Nah no one's running dodge
Love the fact that Clark was charged when the police put him in that situation 😂
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3:02 love the implication that the officer’s thought process was “shit, a song? He’s an American, right? What do Americans like? Uhhhh cowboys!”
As an American I will say we don't have the word "Hostage" in our dictionary. The real translation into American-ish is "Acceptable Casualty". Thank you for understanding.
Collateral damage.
American police do a good job of resolving most hostage situations peacefully or with few dead hostages, now russia otoh....
There is no hostage situation in Russia, cowardice makes them accomplices
“We don’t negotiate with terrorists and we sure don’t negotiate with their hostages” FPS Russia
@@LTPottenger exactly
Stockholm Syndrome is what my therapist calls my relationship with Qxir.
I agree
So… who’s the kidnapper?
@@enshen2190 you didn’t know about the 300 people Qxir has in his basement?
@@FrankFrancis can confirm, im one of em
Little known fact is that this is the first heist orchestrated by the Payday gang where they first ran Stoic and Yakuza dodge builds.
The dude just had joker skills
Dodge Stoic? Are you out of your mind? ICTV Stoic and 2/9 Stoic are the way to go for that perk deck
And Yakuza basically only works for stealth, even though it was designed as an armor build. Running it with dodge is suicide
@John Jones Never, I always play Co-Op :Cool_Early_2000_Emoji_with_Sun_Glasses:
Rogue build
love that game. also love the perk where you can turn hostile police officers into allies. i don’t know why it’s so funny to me but seeing full uniform cops fire on their coworkers is the epitome of “i don’t get paid enough for this shit”
Jesus, the last two minutes of this made me laugh until I was nearly sick. Proper honing your craft man, huge props to ya, been here since about 32k, glad to see you blowing up in numbers, hugely deserved.
Fun fact: There is actually a swedish series that was released 5th May 2022. It's based on Clark Olofsson and the whole thing was actually pretty on point.
This show goes hard
Jan-Erik Olsson has a car company just 3 kilometers from my house
Please tell me there's a gimmick.
@@Iknowtoomuchable Don't really know but i think he gives away his book about the event or something
I hope he sells mustangs 🤣
Probably stolen cars or all the calls he has ever gathered from robbing the banks
@@SO-Negative such a lame comment.
Police: Rob this bank
Clark: OK
Police: *wait. that's illegal*
Oh boy I’m in time for this
facts
Sameee :)
Honestly yeah.
1:50 always cracks me up about the jacket ‘ahh that’s not so bad BUT UNDERNEATH THE JACKET WAS A SUBMACHINE GUN’
Swedish hostage tactics: give them everything they want.
Russian hostage tactics: meth gas.
American tactics: rush their asses, they ain’t getting out of this
Im swedish and i really wanted to know more about the syndrome and what better way then the best youtuber on the platform. Keep the series going
The origin of the syndrome is more interesting than the the syndrome itself. Now that's awesome.
This isnt the origin of it. Far from the first example of this kind of thing. Merely, this is the origin of how it became noticed
Largely because it's not a real phenomenon.
Quite the tale, portrayed seriously with a side of comic relief. And fun little animations to help enforce what's being said as always great video
this entire story could be titled, "I shit you not"
4:16 the most payday 2 logic for 1 hostage for 1 robber back into the fight
Your videos always bring me a smile, and I can’t stop watching the ‘tales from the bottle’ it’s becoming a problematic addiction
There actually is a pretty good movie about this, its just called Stockholm. Definitely worth a watch
Betttt thx
Another movie is coming out called "Clark", about the second bank robber mentioned in this video
And money heist on Netflix they added Alot to the story for drama in that tho
@@christophermanley1340 Money Heist has nothing to do with this.
@@DeadManSinging1 Literally one of the main plots is the stockholm syndrome that the 3 people get
Cops: Hey, there's a guy robbing a bank and he wants you to join him, so we're making you do it.
Cops: Yeah, you know that bank we made you rob, yeah uhmm, we're charging you with robbing a bank.
Guy: Hello, Entrapment!
Qxir's narration of his video's keeps getting better and better; he's really got a knack for this!
2:11 I haven't heard the word "kerfuffle" used unironically in _ages._
the brain does amazingly counter intuitive things to stay in control of a persons little bubble of a world, if you've ever met a person who always refuses to admit their wrong about anything ever, that's the brain at work protecting their fragile ego.
I mean the first part was right, but “fragile ego” is a bit of a weird way to put it. See, our brains have a limited amount of power to think about things. In a regular situation, people have time and power to think about rights and wrongs, and to improve their self. But, sometimes the brain has too much stress on it, so it can’t allocate as much power to that kind of thinking. That’s probably why Stockholm Syndrome happens, because the brain doesn’t have enough power to think critically about anything other than its own survival, and if their captors are semi-nice to them, then the brain just takes that as their captor liking them.
Also why some people refuse to admit they’re wrong about stuff, because of unnatural amounts of stress, caused by maybe home life, toxic relationships, financial situation, etc.
@@portman3950 While those are very much possibilities, you must admit that 'fragile ego' is up there, too. Not particularly uncommon, either. Regardless of circumstance, there's very few excuses for lack of self awareness. Sure, one may lapse from time to time. Maybe even for an extended period, who knows. But if someone has a constant problem of admitting fault, over many months, or even years, then those few excuses run down to just about zero. All of those situations you mentioned should only count as excuses for so long before it is less of an effect of stress, and more of an intrinsic trait that is simply being ignored or, god forbid, accepted by the one bearing it.
@@portman3950 everybody to some degree has a level of self reflective tolerance, some can take a joke, other's can't and when they can't what do they do? they get defensive, its what the brain does to protect its self from introspective harm and self doubt, its part of what the ID does since it controls the baser wants of the mind, and when those wants are threatened on a psychological level, the brain will pretzel whatever way it can to stay in the right. I have this one friend who is such a horrible person, but if you bring up anything he's done in the past, his defense mechanism is to blank it out and not remember it, he even did that when I had a picture of him ripping up some of my old game magazines, his brain was utterly in denial even though he had facts staring him in the face, the brain just does that if your that kind of person, and it does that on some degree even for normal people.
@@dt99022 I know people in real life who will twist their own moral code upside down just to not be proven wrong in an argument, i'm not saying everyones minds do that, put on some level everybody lies to themselves to a degree to protect their ego, it's apart of basic psychology if you get the the part about the ID
Its a narcissist that refuses to admit their wrong about anything ever.
I love how much he bullies the Swedish government at the end so happily
Jan-Erik is quite a GENERIC name IF YKNOW WHAT IM SAYING
Take your like and get away from me.
@@johnladuke6475 much appreciated 😂😂😂
…I hate u
One fun fact to add is that the person the police originally thought the bank robber was phoned in from abroad after a successful bank robbery to complain to the police that he was not the person in the bank doing that particular robbery. The police promptly phoned the authorities of said country and then went there on a plane to pick him up.
To say u deserve all the subs is a large understatement if I’ve ever heard one. Keep doing what ur doing mate u make amazing videos.
You honestly have the best sense of humor out of any of these other youtubers doing similar stuff that I've seen
I guess if someone has complete control over you with malicious intentions, their sympathy has a higher value especially in such a distressed state
Remember to stay hydrated today everyone!
Hmmm. You're buried deep in a comments section with a boilerplate statement... but my coffee is right next to me, rich, warm and comforting. I think I know who cares more about my well-being.
Shut the fuck up
I legit had to look at the screen to figure out what place you meant when you pronounced ”Norrmalmstorg” in such a godly manner.
i really wanna say this is the best channel for crime stories (just dark enough to not be creeped)
Educational too
I know it’s a lot of effort creating the animations in tales from the bottle but it is by far your best content mate. Love your narration as well. All the best from Aus 🇦🇺
I guess the old adage is true, truth is stranger than fiction. Keep up the great story telling Qxir. Don't know how you do it but they keep getting better.
"...to help convince themselves their situation is not as bad as it seems"
*BANG*
I laughed harder than I should have at that ._.
I have watched this video probably about 10 times and only now noticed that Stockholm pun in the beginning. Absolutely magnificent.
1:33 haha this isn't constructed as normal-storg, "norr" means north, malm means ore(?) and "torg" means something like public square/market, so the translation is "north ore square" (the s is part of malm as in "malms" the same way we'd say ore's in english)
He wasn't lying about America and hostages.
Nah that’s Russia, the US usually saves most of the hostages. Meanwhile Russia gasses and kills them or storms a school rigged with explosives which then explode killing most of the hostages.
@@jerrell1169 I never said America doesn't save hostages, however compare to Western European countries America Swat teams are more likely to shoot 1 or 2 hostages.
@@tiredox3788 But they always get their man, the Americans.
@@lsudx479 Again I never said they don't.😂😂
@@tiredox3788 Hahahaha you covered your bases well.
Not gonna lie, this story was epic 😂😂
The way you tell stories is so entertaining! I'm glad I randomly found your channel. I guess the UA-cam algorithms are good for something after all!
As enjoyable as these are to watch already, this one thus far takes the cake as my favorite due to how insane the story is and how well delivered it was (especially factoring in your own disbelief at some of the events in the story)
1:06
It was a surprising offense since most people would call him a “Jan-Erik” guy
Blessing us with a 10+ minute video just in time for the weekend, you madlad
Don’t ever change your humour, brilliant
It’s a little weird that the original Stockholm Syndrome hostages don’t follow one the traits we associate with it now, at least in pop culture it’s deemed that Stockholm syndrome only effects people while they’re under duress as they try and make sense of the situation, but if these people visited the bank robbers after and became friends, it probably just means they became friends after spending a week together. If it was just a means of calming themselves in the moment they wouldn’t have done that.
They also were acting rationally when they believed the police posed the biggest threat to them, for all the robbers might have threatened to kill them they knew it would only come to that if the police escalated the situation, the robbers would never have killed the hostages for no reason and lost their only negotiating factor.
@@harveyholmes9533 And it didn't help when Sweden's Prime Minister went totally nuts when he was talking to a hostage on the phone. The *actual hostage* kept her cool a hell of a lot better than the dude running her country.
It also really kicks in with the refusal to get in the car. It's not hard to put yourself in the shoes of the hostage, and work out that if this person who has not yet actually harmed you - only the bank - loses their leverage, they could die. When the robber says "if you get in the car I'll drop you off and once I'm safe you're safe, but if you don't get in the car I'll be killed in a chase or a shootout" it's easy to see that as an attractive way for everyone to go home to their families. You may not want to help the bank robber, but you don't want to feel any reasponsibility for his death.
@@johnladuke6475 >Man does something stupid, forces you to get involved and potentiality put you in harms way
>Should already understand what he's doing is incredibly stupid and dangerous
>Does it anyway
>Dies
>Oh no I feel responsible for his death!
I envy Americans sometimes. Americans can at least understand someone elses idiocy is their own fault.
@@deltan6212 It's easy to make the call as a moral abstract. Spend a week with that guy not hurting you. Then he looks you in the face and says "if you don't get in the car, I'm a dead man." His predicament may be of his own making, but if you can look in someone's eyes and end their life without remorse, you're among only about 2% of the human species... we call those people "psychopaths" and "sociopaths" and they usually end up in either an asylum or a prison.
I love your deadpan humor and delivery. Subscribed!
I'm 50% Swedish so I've known about Stockholm Syndrome for a very long time but this was the funniest version I have ever heard 😂😂😂😂😂 Thanks!
I think this tale amused Qxir the most out of them all thus far.
Always love how purely entertaining your storytelling style is! I find myself rewinding a lot to enjoy those quips again. So good lol
The things that make these stories so good are the drawings XD
4:20 payday's custody mechanic actually worked irl holy fuck
Hoxton is out of custody!
I absolutely love how you tell these stories
Mate, these are brilliant and brilliantly presented. Thank you.
would a dog be the "victim" of stockholm syndrome? since they were technically kidnapped and kept captive with you. haha
Nah, it's a symbiotic relationship. We provide steady food without hunting and lots of ear scratches, and they keep the wolves away. I don't see any wolves around here, so it must be working.
@@johnladuke6475 The dog protection racket
@@LTPottenger "Say, that's a real nice carpet you've got in the living room. Sure would be a shame if somebody... peed all over it."
Perfect timing, I just started to do homework.
Commenting because this is the most underrated, hidden gem of a channel in its category. Here's to a million subscribers
This is far funnier than I expected. I expected some shit to make me paranoid but this is relieving
There is also a helicotper bank heist that happened in Sweden. Though i'm not sure if that story is just as worth sharing.
You could however make a tales from the bottle episode of the SS bank heist in 1945, the story exists on Mark Feltons channel.
Don't forget about The Swedish International Museum Heist in Stockholm.
Or militärligan
keep up the good work
YEEEEEES! new Qxir video!
Yet again, AWESOME timing for new content from my absolute favorite UA-camr!
I have heard the term but never researched. Cool video. Don't stop.
The hilarious ending about Clarke almost getting charged with robbery is what made me a subscriber.
I had vague memories of this - I was about 7 at the time, so I never really learned all the details, just that there was a long hostage-taking bank robbery in Stockholm. I knew what Stockholm Syndrome meant, and that it had clearly come from _a_ hostage situation, but I had assumed (much later on when I was an adult and really learned what it meant) that it had been a much longer hostage situation than it actually was.
It would be an interesting comparison to see if there is any case which is similar (not the bringing of the guy from prison, I can't see that happening! But then again...) in a different country, and if the outcome was similar. Assuming everyone got out alive, of course.
Yet again, a fascinating story. Thank you :)
Im Swedish and I live in Stockholm and I can confirm that the police here is ummm... trying
At least tell me that they aren't corrupt like every south american police, right?
@@elroma7712 yeah Swedish police is incompetent as all hell but not corrupt
They sure love to cover up for those "migrants" tho.
Remember your Ghost Rider. He is an absolute legend. Nothing supernatural but definitely livin to the name.
@@coldhands2802 they sure do
I'm only half-way through and this is already the best narration I've ever heard! LMAO! PRICELESS!!
EDIT: Subscribed!
Amusing commentary, great graphics!! With a face for radio!! Good work!!
Only a few of his videos I hadn't watched due to topics I personally wasn't interested in. I must now watch them all because this was one of my favorites. Had me rolling at how ridiculous this whole event was.
Don't know what I like best, the story or your accent. Fucking killer , great job, great channel.
love all your videos but this one had me laughing the most. keep up the great work!
Noti gang can’t wait for this video
I've watched this video several times since it premiered and just caught the "As well as Stock, it was also holm to..." joke. Laughed aloud
Another outstanding video. Highly recommended. You are one of best UA-cam creators.
This was the inspiration for The Stockholm’s, wasn’t it?
Money tight, wallets light. Wishin you had somethin more
It literally says so in the video...
1:28 "On the twenty turd of August nineteen seventy 🌳"
When I learned about the origin of the term Stockholm Syndrome, I was surprised it came from an actual case. After learning about this case, it was clear the hostages weren't under some psychological effect or coping mechanism, it was the press, acadmemics and the gov't that used the "stockholm syndrome" explanation to downlplay the and cope with reality.
The fact was that the bankrobbers involved were very friendly, curteous, and ensured their hostages they were not going to hurt them. The hostages were frightened at first, but after spending so much time with them, they knew the robbers were just trying to gain freedom, and had no intention of putting the hostages in harms way. They were extremely friendly and got to know each of the hostages, and talked / joked around with them, always in a relatively cheery mood. They only displayed hostility to the police. Despite the police caving into most of the demands from the start, the began to get very brazen and reckless.
Especially knowing that the police didn't know the robbers weren't serious about hurting the hostages, they risked the hostages lives on several occasions. They had sharpshooters constantly aiming inside, right through the hostages, and police fired errant shots on a couple occasions that could have killed any of them. Of course, the Police risked a hostage's life right off the bat by giving them marked bills. They also refused to let the robbers take hostages in a get-away vehicle, the last demand they had. The hostages knew that if the police let the robbers take the hostages, they would be unharmed and the entire ordeal would be done within a couple hours. By refusing the final demand, the hostages chances of being executed rose statistically, EVEN if they personally felt these robbers wouldn't, the fact the cops did not allow it not only sent the message to the hostages that catching the prisoners and money meant more than the hostages lives to the police involved, but the police also ensured this ordeal would last much, MUCH longer. On top of all this, the police acted rude and sketchy during the whole thing, which AGAIN, sent the message that the hostages weren't important, and that they wanted to just end it in a violent shootout which would absolutely endanger EVERYONE's lives.
With how the cops were behaving, the robbers in comparison really did treat the hostages well. They promised to each of them that they weren't going to harm them, and that "they were only doing this to gain their freedom". They even thanked them for being understanding. By all accounts, these guys actually meant it, and it really did put the hostages at ease. By comparison, the police were actually a bigger threat at this point. The police only had to let the hostages go with the robbers for an hour unfollowed to end it, but instead dragged out the process and kept inching closer to a wild shootout. A normal person would have likely felt more kinship with the robbers at this point than the police.
All of this was pretty much confirmed when the police locked the hostages inside with the robbers, and then began to pump gas inside the safe. Again, the police did not know how serious these guys really were, but had they been as serious as they claimed, they could have executed all the hostages and took their own lives for this - sending the message to the hostages that the money and prisoners were more important than the hostages lives. This gas made the hostages very ill, with one even injuring themselves falling over. The police handled this whole mess absolutely horribly, and it's no wonder the hostages were behind the robbers after everything, no stockholm syndrome needed. The police seemingly gave in too much and too easily right away, the overcompensated by playing hardball and gambling recklessly with the hostage's lives afterwards. Many of the hostages believed the police sharpshooters would shoot through their own throat just to get a chance to hit one of the bankrobbers - that's how bad the cops were.
Afterwards, when the hostages defended the robbers and claimed they were nice, while simultaneously condemning the police and accusing them of risking their lives on multiple occasions, it was not received well. Even though it was factually true, the police needed a explanation for such a reaction, so they got theoretical psychologists to mock up a propagandistic explanation for the hostages' comments, and used the press to publicize this new "Stockholm Syndrome" condition as a explanation. Many of the details surrounding this event weren't public at the time, so this psychological phenomenon was accepted at face value by the public.
Pretty much every case of "Stockholm Syndrome" is similar. Just because a criminal is committing crime, it doesn't mean they are unlikable, uncaring, selfish, violent, terrifying, unsympathetic or antisocial, even if the odds are they are more likely to be. Just like how a hero or humanitarian is not necessarily friendly, selfless, kind, giving, empathetic, or likable, even if many of them are. Police can be great, kind, efficient, courageous and careful as well as egotistical, cocky, stupid, cowardly, selfish and trigger-happy scumbags. Sometimes you will get a mix of a very likable and kind hostage taker going up against selfish, shitty police. Hostages can, and have, sided with their own hostage takers in that situation, and the term "Stockholm-Syndrome" is the applied.
There may be a psychological phenomenon that has hostages begin to identify with their captors, but that often occurs over very long periods of time, in addition to social isolation and fear. In cases of child abuse, abusive relationships, coach-athlete abuse, sex-trafficking and other cases, this effect is a measurable coping mechanism. As for these temporary bank-heist ordeals, Stockholm syndrome is likely just a make-believe theory of an imaginary psychological condition used to explain the instances when hostages develop some sort of kinship their captors (because all hostage-takers MUST be evil and hated), and/or when the police are criticized by hostages (because all police have to be commended as amazing, professional heroes after a hostage stand-off, no matter who gets hurt or how poorly the police handled it). That's just the truth of the matter.
THANK you for posting the actual story!! Don't forget the misogyny angle either with these police and psychologist men being angry that the women didn't like them, concluded it had to be some kind of new disorder! Really disappointed Qxir didn't cover the real (and much more interesting) story.
Blud wrote an ENTIRE essay
I ain’t reading allat
Dude really posted his PhD dissertation into a YT comment. Nice.
Yeah I remember the last time someone put a noose around my neck the first thing I thought was "wow these guys are really friendly".The bank was robbed at gunpoint, your take on the situation is really dumb.
Great video, nicely narrated.
the best history lesson, ever!! and what a story!! thank you!! ❤️👩🏽✈️💰
Luv frm jamaica brother 🇯🇲🇯🇲🖤🖤
They did make a movie about this, haven't seen it but the trailer was in the recommended vidoes, wonder if they omit the part where they let the guy out of prison🤔
finally on time for school
Becoming one of my all time favorites channels.