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  • What If Vegeta became immortal on Namek and never turned good?
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    On Namek, many characters collided paths as they were all hunting for the Namekian Dragon Balls. The Earthlings sought to revive their friends who perished in the Saiyan Arc. The maniacal emperor Freeza sought to gain immortality. Finally, Vegeta sought to thwart Freeza’s plans, and in the process get immortality for himself. This leads to the game of cat and mouse that dominates most of the Namek Arc until every party mentioned is finally facing each other down when Porunga is summoned. What if Vegeta got his wish? What if Vegeta became immortal?
    After watching the video feel free to leave any and all counter points in the comments below - I love a good discussion.
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  • @CarthusDojo
    @CarthusDojo  4 роки тому +167

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    • @pantiogames
      @pantiogames 4 роки тому +1

      Vegeta even imortal, can´t survive Hakai, in the manga, Goku almost kill Imortal Zamusu with that , and in that context is the Super Dragon Balls Imortal Wish, the Hakai destroys the Soul, so this mean that in the best case scenario, a imortal , been hit with the hakai, would just be a indestruble body, lifeless without a soul.

    • @zombathinlostleghackercat5233
      @zombathinlostleghackercat5233 4 роки тому +2

      My top 3 favorite "What if" Dragon Ball UA-camrs:
      #1.) SaladSaiyan
      #2.) Carthu's Dojo
      #3.) MasikoX

    • @thatpart5085
      @thatpart5085 4 роки тому

      Carthu’s Dojo wouldn’t future Gohan go to earth instead of Trunks then? Or do you think he dies because Vegeta wasn’t there to fight the Androids at all?

    • @notdom7049
      @notdom7049 4 роки тому +1

      Goku wouldn't get the heart virus if he died on namek because he only caught the virus from being in the toxic planet of yardrat

    • @abhinavchowdarymakkena9550
      @abhinavchowdarymakkena9550 4 роки тому +1

      The heart Virus is not an issue right, as Goku never went to that planet?

  • @lucariol7989
    @lucariol7989 Рік тому +581

    "have you considered the implications?"
    -Gohan

    • @RatstoMen
      @RatstoMen Рік тому +85

      "Have you considered the implications?"
      -Krillin

    • @furchad3574
      @furchad3574 Рік тому +86

      “Have you considered the implications?”
      -Frieza

    • @brayden9358
      @brayden9358 Рік тому +77

      "have you considered the implications?'"
      -Goku

    • @interestingchannelname
      @interestingchannelname Рік тому +16

      ​@@brayden9358 have you considered the implications? -android 18

    • @brayden9358
      @brayden9358 Рік тому +20

      @@interestingchannelname lol I'm pretty sure everyone else is quoting the video "Vegeta's big wish" which android 18 is not in, unless I am missing something here.

  • @theultimatememelord5494
    @theultimatememelord5494 3 роки тому +1222

    "Vegeta would forever float through space, begging for a death that would never come. Eventually, Vegeta stopped thinking."

    • @dolphinloverjotaro5718
      @dolphinloverjotaro5718 3 роки тому +113

      My grandpa told me the same thing as you but instead of vegeta it was a vampire named kars

    • @theultimatememelord5494
      @theultimatememelord5494 3 роки тому +21

      @@dolphinloverjotaro5718 That's the point. They had the same fate.

    • @dolphinloverjotaro5718
      @dolphinloverjotaro5718 3 роки тому +13

      @@theultimatememelord5494 so what will vegeta think when they meet each other will kars return to earth with the help of vegeta?

    • @theultimatememelord5494
      @theultimatememelord5494 3 роки тому +8

      @@dolphinloverjotaro5718 For the sake of the planet, let's hope not.

    • @Listlesseye
      @Listlesseye 3 роки тому +18

      jojo reference is hot, but also vegeta would be able to generate ki to heat his body and would just have to beccome used to the pain plus the infinite zenki boost = a monster

  • @TxCoby
    @TxCoby 4 роки тому +2281

    Dam, imagine dying and reviving constantly in the vacuum of space, seems like hell

    • @IndigoStorm27
      @IndigoStorm27 4 роки тому +449

      Vegeta: "Work... through... the... Pain..."

    • @AGooeyMass
      @AGooeyMass 4 роки тому +265

      Imagine if he somehow became stronger than the void of space? :P

    • @GaldenX
      @GaldenX 4 роки тому +161

      Hey Kars from Jojo did it and he turned out terribly.

    • @IndigoStorm27
      @IndigoStorm27 4 роки тому +186

      @@GaldenX Eventually, Vegeta stopped thinking.

    • @bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368
      @bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368 4 роки тому +86

      * gets to earth * UNDO THIS SHIT RIGHT NOW

  • @papiaundreay9313
    @papiaundreay9313 4 роки тому +1283

    Vegeta is the definition of what doesn't kill me makes me stronger

    • @BRONZETOAST
      @BRONZETOAST 4 роки тому +4

      You got that profile picture from they don't want to see me fall amv

    • @papiaundreay9313
      @papiaundreay9313 4 роки тому +18

      @@BRONZETOAST I got it off google images...

    • @BRONZETOAST
      @BRONZETOAST 4 роки тому +10

      @@papiaundreay9313 who pit that scar on your back kakarot, was it chi chi

    • @deez2037
      @deez2037 4 роки тому +2

      LOL FR! xD

    • @HornetsNinja
      @HornetsNinja 4 роки тому +6

      No saiyans

  • @nathanchao-lam8849
    @nathanchao-lam8849 4 роки тому +593

    UA-cam: How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 4 роки тому +1647

    Zenkai boost plus immortality would be op up until the battle of gods arc.

    • @ScamBender
      @ScamBender 4 роки тому +12

      @Irfan Alddin yes omg yes

    • @Rapid98k
      @Rapid98k 4 роки тому +89

      Zenkai boost won't work I assume. He is immortal so he can't be near death, or can he?

    • @SaiyanGamer14
      @SaiyanGamer14 4 роки тому +6

      @Irfan Alddin tf is this weird fanfiction shit youre speaking

    • @maxplays9187
      @maxplays9187 4 роки тому +14

      @@Rapid98k He will still get stronger

    • @c.k-da-kxnghere
      @c.k-da-kxnghere 4 роки тому +62

      Irfan Alddin even if he’s continuously getting hurt, healing be healing and getting stronger as frieza loses power from exertion. It would soon be over for frieza like a day later

  • @general_pepito
    @general_pepito Рік тому +122

    *vegeta gains immortality*
    "But did you consider the implications..."

  • @Taylon1408
    @Taylon1408 Рік тому +81

    Vegeta should have thought of the implications of becoming immortal

  • @TheJts1234
    @TheJts1234 4 роки тому +473

    ​I'd have thought gohan would have been careful if there was no trunks as a back up hope

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  4 роки тому +66

      Maybe but I doubt it. He was trying too hard to be Goku

    • @TheJts1234
      @TheJts1234 4 роки тому +26

      @@CarthusDojo I do wonder what a time traveling gohan would mean for this scenario, say it worked, would it just end with beerus destroying earth because they couldnt make a super saiyan god, or would broly be brought into the fold?

    • @ojpickle5923
      @ojpickle5923 4 роки тому +5

      @@VarietySeth thats all assuming paragus wants to live on earth. Its verry possible but also remember Paragus is an old fassion sayain he might WANT to go in space and go planet to planet doing sayain things, maby even volunteering to join the Frieza Force since bro he would give him a very high position wich is also very possible with Paragus old fashioned way of thinking how a sayain should act

    • @stephgames4036
      @stephgames4036 4 роки тому

      @@CarthusDojo Goku wouldn't get the heart virus

    • @redhunter8731
      @redhunter8731 4 роки тому

      @@stephgames4036 why not? It's an Earth virus.

  • @clover9336
    @clover9336 4 роки тому +752

    Imagine vegeta got zenkais from lack of oxygen he would be so op!!!!!!!!

    • @joeldoxtator9804
      @joeldoxtator9804 4 роки тому +160

      I'm imagining him gaining so much power that it eventually collapses in upon itself like a black hole. Vegeta literally becoming his own galaxy.

    • @phrog7974
      @phrog7974 4 роки тому +71

      Good thing that’s not how zenkais work lmao

    • @CydonianKnights11
      @CydonianKnights11 4 роки тому +98

      Eventually he would evolve to breath in space.

    • @theonlychickensama8353
      @theonlychickensama8353 4 роки тому +34

      @@CydonianKnights11 but that would take soo long lol

    • @theonlychickensama8353
      @theonlychickensama8353 4 роки тому

      @Nathan Terrelonge-Tillery Raaaaa!!!

  • @Spadeaswell
    @Spadeaswell 4 роки тому +222

    “While Vegeta is floating in space, for, what he thinks, till the end of time, he spots a weird statue float by him. He gives it no attention and goes about his infinite loop of suffocating in space.”

  • @TheJadeFist
    @TheJadeFist 4 роки тому +40

    I kinda imagine Frieza to be a bit smarter. He would stop and simply tank the hits as Vegeta wails on him to no avail. Maybe experiment with dismemberment and immortality. He can't die but he still doesn't have infinite stamina. Maybe even toss Vegeta into deep space.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 3 роки тому +8

      Frieza wasn't that smart at that point in time plus I'm pretty sure he was enraged which would've clouded his judgment anyway.

  • @dbzfan-og3qx
    @dbzfan-og3qx Рік тому +23

    "Ok, but did you consider the implications?"

  • @saalim5098
    @saalim5098 4 роки тому +216

    If immortality in DB is basically extremely fast healing, wouldnt that mean that Vegeta can't heal without oxygen?

    • @makotonaegi4419
      @makotonaegi4419 4 роки тому +39

      Well if your entire body gets erasesd is there really any oxygen.

    • @illbadger2076
      @illbadger2076 4 роки тому +7

      Luis Suazo has anyone ever tried that. I’ve always thought that maybe you could kill Deadpool by drowning him. You can kill wolverine by drowning him though

    • @bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368
      @bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368 4 роки тому +7

      @@illbadger2076 you can?! How does that work

    • @Spingerex
      @Spingerex 4 роки тому

      @@bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368 The same way it works on any other normal Joe

    • @alexramos7708
      @alexramos7708 2 роки тому +6

      @@av8r195 encasing wolverine in adamantium killed him. Cells need Oxygen to function, if his cells can't function then he can't regenerate.

  • @snirambaya9587
    @snirambaya9587 4 роки тому +277

    Imagine the amount of zenkais Vegeta gets every minute in space.

    • @deez2037
      @deez2037 4 роки тому +2

      LMFAO fr! xD

    • @deez2037
      @deez2037 4 роки тому +17

      @Luis Suazo True tho. Zenkais only work for near death experiences, not death.

    • @deez2037
      @deez2037 4 роки тому +7

      Unfortunately for him, however, zenkais ONLY work for NEAR death experiences, and NOT death.

    • @syn3475
      @syn3475 4 роки тому +5

      ZeroCold Gg the floor is made of floor but not really

    • @decimation9780
      @decimation9780 4 роки тому +19

      《反抗的な心火》 As far as immortal beings are concerned, any normally fatal blow only brings them to near death, so anything that would normally end their life soon, or instantly, instead brings them to near death. And because they’re immortal, they immediately regenerate their wounds and are brought back from the brink of death. There’s a reason Toriyama decided against giving Vegeta immortality and had Guru die before Vegeta could make his wish, as even he realized just how dangerous a Saiyan with immortality could become.

  • @bundleization
    @bundleization 4 роки тому +350

    They didnt wish his immortality away?

    • @shaft2139
      @shaft2139 4 роки тому +151

      They couldn't because vegeta was stronger than shenron and porunga and they didn't know about the super dragon balls. The only way vegeta could lose his immortality is by wishing himself

    • @AGooeyMass
      @AGooeyMass 4 роки тому +20

      ​@@shaft2139 Couldn't they just wish that a vacuum zone would surround Vegeta at all times?
      Then it wouldn't matter if he made it to a breathable atmosphere.

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 4 роки тому +60

      @@AGooeyMass the Z-Fighters aren't exactly the smartest. They could have used the Dragon Balls to wipe the Saiyans memories when they were coming in the Saiyan Saga.

    • @TheGotreck
      @TheGotreck 4 роки тому +8

      @@davidlarkin1040 they couldn't the sayans where stronger than shenron so he couldn't mess with them

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 4 роки тому +12

      @@TheGotreck makes sense... but the Saiyans aren't the smartest mentally, couldn't Shenron manipulate their minds, just not their bodies?

  • @chaosfire321
    @chaosfire321 2 роки тому +39

    If he was floating in space for months/years on end, constantly suffocating and reviving, Vegeta would skyrocket in power...but go utterly insane. It's like an even more unhinged Broly.

    • @michaelasnicar6684
      @michaelasnicar6684 Рік тому +5

      he can definitely make it to another planet cuz hes immortal and can still use ki while suffocating

    • @souptikchakraborty2004
      @souptikchakraborty2004 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@michaelasnicar6684exactly what i was thinking of

  • @RobertoBlake
    @RobertoBlake 4 роки тому +246

    Congrats on 100K!

  • @The_Dying_Jokester
    @The_Dying_Jokester 4 роки тому +219

    I was thinking it would be vegeta kills everyone and becomes ruler of the universe

    • @triforceofcourage100
      @triforceofcourage100 4 роки тому +2

      Nah that’s kinda Masako’s take on the story of if Vegeta stayed evil

    • @Hello-sy7eu
      @Hello-sy7eu 4 роки тому +1

      Anikan Ketchum then Zeno erases him in the end

    • @Pusfilth
      @Pusfilth 4 роки тому

      Insertnamehere wtf are you talking about? At all ends after the buu saga..

    • @gmanbozdo457
      @gmanbozdo457 4 роки тому +1

      @@Pusfilth oh yeah buu could just absirb vegeta and get imortal hinself

    • @1-2519
      @1-2519 3 роки тому +1

      I think whis would have done something tho. Even though it not his duty and he is a guide he would be concerned that someone could be as strong as him over hundreds of billions of years. If not whis then Zeno would do something like he did in the goku black arc and wipe the universe out. Yes Vegeta can’t die but Zeno doesn’t kill anyone, he just erases them and unless the immortality in dB is weird I see Vegeta eventually dying/erased.

  • @griffinhoffman6746
    @griffinhoffman6746 3 роки тому +54

    Feels like after years of dieing every few minutes he should have been more of a challenge for the destroyer. I know it's only base form but it's a really, really stong base form at that point.

  • @cracknut28
    @cracknut28 4 роки тому +238

    I decided to calculate what Vegeta's power level would be by the time Beerus arrived, and here's what I got:
    Vegeta's power level against Goku was between 200 mil and 250 mil. Carthu said he was only a little stronger that Frieza,
    so let's put him at 220 mil. Vegeta was left to die over and over in space for 16 years until Beerus found him. There's no evidence to suggest that zenkais have diminishing returns, or that they ever stop happening. I'm already giving Carthu the whole "Frieza's true power was 200 mil" thing, so let's just go with constant zenkais for 16 years.
    It takes one minute to die in space. Vegeta's body is strong enough that the only thing he would have to regenerate would be his "boiling" blood. Seeing as how it took Zamasu just a few second to completely heal from getting stabbed with a sword, the amount of time it would take Vegeta to regenerate blood would be so small that I can just omit it from my calculations.
    So this means Vegeta would be getting 1 zenkai every 1 minute for 16 years. That's cool and all, but how large of a boost would he get from each zenkai? Well, I decided to use 4 different tiers of boosts. The smallest tier is a 1.3x boost, like when when Vegeta went from 18,000 to 24,000 after the saiyan saga. The middle tier is an 8x boost, like when Vegeta went from 30,000 to 250,000 after fighting Recoome. The large tier is a 33x boost, like when Goku went from 90,000 to 3 mil after fighting Ginyu. I also decided to do an extra tier just for fun. This one takes takes the zenkai that bardock got between his special and the Chilled movie. He was 10,000 in the special, then he was strong enough to go super saiyan in the Chilled movie, so probably about 3 mil. This is an absurd 300 times multiplier.
    This gives us:
    Before 16 years: 220,000,000
    Tier 1: 2,405,260,000,000,000
    Tier 2: 14,801,600,000,000,000
    Tier 3: 61,056,600,000,000,000‬
    Tier 4: 555,060,000,000,000,000
    To try and put this into perspective, the number I consider to be Super Vegito's power level in the Buu arc is 25 trillion.
    I got this after doing my own calculations which happened to line up with power scaling in the show, then finding other people online that got around that same number. Considering how overwhelming powerful Vegito was, I'd say that's a fair number. So, let's add Vegito to that chart.
    Before 16 years: 220,000,000
    Tier 1: 2,405,260,000,000,000
    Tier 2: 14,801,600,000,000,000
    Tier 3: 61,056,600,000,000,000‬
    Tier 4: 555,060,000,000,000,000
    S Vegito: 25,000,000,000,000
    SS3V: 200,000,000,000,000
    (If Gotenks can go SS3, so can Vegito)
    When Goku first fought Beerus, he said that he didn't think that even Vegito could beat him. Then, when Goku went SSG, he was confident enough to fight Beerus. This obviously puts SSG Goku(BoG) above Vegito(Buu arc), everyone already knows that.
    This means that after 16 years, Vegeta was potentially as strong or even stronger that Battle of Gods Goku. If this were to be the case, then perhaps Beerus and Whis would have kept Vegeta around, seeing how strong he was.
    Sources: science.howstuffworks.com/question540.htm
    ua-cam.com/video/KIk6aPdEWHg/v-deo.html 2:15
    dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Power_Levels
    I couldn't find the Vegito power levels online, and my PL scale isn't finished yet, but when it is and I find the scales I was talking about, I'll put them in here.

    • @Sinestro78
      @Sinestro78 4 роки тому +27

      This needs more likes how long did it take to calculate all of this information

    • @dacacar2850
      @dacacar2850 3 роки тому +7

      Man that took a while surely, Thank you for this my good guy

    • @chromedgoldenbug3097
      @chromedgoldenbug3097 3 роки тому +10

      So basically vegeta would steal the role of protagonist from goku?
      Dayum just....dayum...

    • @sideways_chip_eater6420
      @sideways_chip_eater6420 3 роки тому +8

      your that one student that the math teacher would fear when giving you a test

    • @thadon5360
      @thadon5360 3 роки тому

      @@chromedgoldenbug3097 ?

  • @ChargedJolteon2
    @ChargedJolteon2 Рік тому +16

    Ok but did you consider the implications?

  • @collinmack4752
    @collinmack4752 4 роки тому +58

    Frieza said it best “not being able to die would likely result in un ending misery”

  • @luislazotheoof
    @luislazotheoof 4 роки тому +213

    Immortality just got nerfed so much.
    Vegeta: I... I AM FINALLY IMMO-
    Z fighters: *MaFUba!!1!11!*

  • @noobshateme644
    @noobshateme644 Рік тому +11

    “But have you thought of the implications”

    • @nimbvsalex2635
      @nimbvsalex2635 Рік тому +5

      Vegeta: ALRIGHT ALREADY DRAGON TAKE IT ALL BAAAAACCKKK!!!

    • @noobshateme644
      @noobshateme644 Рік тому +2

      @@nimbvsalex2635 Yes! Finally someone who got the reference!

    • @nimbvsalex2635
      @nimbvsalex2635 Рік тому

      @@noobshateme644 😭😭

  • @khumokwezimashapa2245
    @khumokwezimashapa2245 4 роки тому +121

    1:15
    Vegeta: AYE!!!! WHAT'S UP GUYS?!!!
    Krillen: I'm never gonna get my hogie
    Vegeta: So what are you doin?
    Gohan: What am I doin?
    Vegeta: What are ya doin?
    Gohan: Nothing much
    Vegeta: Thwartin my plans?
    Gohan: Thwartin your plans?
    Vegeta: ARE YOU!!!!?

    • @Apaira
      @Apaira 4 роки тому +5

      Yes

    • @kingofrage3935
      @kingofrage3935 4 роки тому +6

      Gohan: yes

    • @neonshiji3595
      @neonshiji3595 4 роки тому +6

      Vegeta: I’M GONNA F***ING KILL YOU!!!

    • @neonshiji3595
      @neonshiji3595 4 роки тому +3

      Vegeta: But first I am going to get my wish of immortality, or I will BREAK. HIS. NECK.

    • @sebastiancaris
      @sebastiancaris 4 роки тому +2

      Krillin: And for our last wish...
      Vegeta: You'll give me immortality, *OR I'LL MURDER HIS PARENTS!*
      Little Green: Joke is on you...

  • @mehdiouabas9587
    @mehdiouabas9587 4 роки тому +31

    Vegeta gets to earth:
    Vegeta: YESSS NO ONE CAN STOP ME!!!
    Piccolo:are you seeing this bottle ?
    Vegeta:Yes,so?
    Piccolo:Great!MAFUBA?

    • @RaymanPotatoes
      @RaymanPotatoes 2 роки тому +3

      I'm placing it on the ground, You see it ?
      Yes

  • @General_Grievance
    @General_Grievance Рік тому +11

    "But did you consider the implications?"

  • @succubastard1019
    @succubastard1019 4 роки тому +162

    3:37 I believe this is actually not the case: Zenkai Boosts only work when the user is *near death*
    For starters, Cell, despite being blasted apart several times, regenerating only made him consume more and more energy, thus weakening him. Cell was only able to get a Zenkai when he self-destructed, leaving only the smallest part of his body from which he could possibly regenerate.
    The scene with Goku black in the anime (which even contradicts how Zenkais work in the first place) actually implies the opposite of what you said, that Black wouldn't wish to be immortal because with an indestructible body, he wouldn't be able to get stronger.
    Same deal with the DBS manga: because Fusion Zamasu was immortal, despite his incredible resilience and regeneration, he couldn't get stronger since it was impossible for his body to reach a state close to death.

    • @MisterSouji
      @MisterSouji 4 роки тому +13

      Yeah this kind of makes more sense. I havent watched the goku black ark, but Zamasu was immortal not goku black, and merged zamasu was half immortal. That and yeah, the wounds would need to be pretty severe.

    • @deadheroz
      @deadheroz Рік тому

      My thoughts exactly.

  • @Wilmar10
    @Wilmar10 4 роки тому +141

    Since Vegeta has been dying on repeat and getting Zenkais for around 16 years straight, shouldn’t he at least pose a challenge to Beerus?

    • @ojpickle5923
      @ojpickle5923 4 роки тому +44

      He still only has base form.... Plus his body would probably get used to it and the zenkais would either get really small or just flat out stop

    • @freewyvern707
      @freewyvern707 4 роки тому +40

      Presuming it takes an hour for Vegeta to die, he would of had 140,160 Zenkais
      As he is dying, his Zenkais should be similar to that of Goku's before his fight against Frieza which was was 33x each time
      Vegeta would of got 4,625,280x stronger
      He had a power level of around 220 million
      By the end of the 16 years, Vegeta would have a powerlevel of 1,017,561,600,000,000. (1 Quintillion)

    • @godemperorofmankind3.091
      @godemperorofmankind3.091 4 роки тому +5

      he hasnt been dying. thats what the wish was for

    • @freewyvern707
      @freewyvern707 4 роки тому +35

      i messed up my maths. As Vegeta would get a new powerlevel each death, his power would increase even faster
      If Vegeta has a PL of 100, after one zenkai he would have a PL 3300(33x100). His second Zenkai would then be 108,900(3300x33). Now imagine this 140 thousand times starting at 220 million
      220,000,000x33^140,160
      (7.26 Billion x 10^140,160)
      (7.26x10^140,169)
      Um, Vegeta has a powerlevel so huge it can barely be written. It has 140,169 zero's at the end, like wow, its big

    • @Justadudewithahondacivic
      @Justadudewithahondacivic 4 роки тому +11

      @@freewyvern707 wow, you're smart.

  • @jamesleveridge407
    @jamesleveridge407 Рік тому +10

    But have you considered the implications-

  • @yo-kaikid1925
    @yo-kaikid1925 Рік тому +9

    what about the implications?

    • @owenburks406
      @owenburks406 5 місяців тому +1

      Like, what if you were a head or something?

  • @StanTheBland
    @StanTheBland 4 роки тому +39

    I feel like there's still other realistic scenarios that could've happened, but it seems the what if community wants to switch things up and make things different

  • @nimbvsalex2635
    @nimbvsalex2635 Рік тому +9

    Have you thought of the implications Vegeta?

  • @voraciousrunner580
    @voraciousrunner580 4 роки тому +17

    Bro when I just wanna chill, eat some chips and pop a soda I'll just watch some carthus dojo thanks man I absolutely loved this video🔥🔥🔥

  • @matthewteo3111
    @matthewteo3111 Рік тому +11

    But have you considered the implications?

  • @uwofy7762
    @uwofy7762 Рік тому +9

    What about the implications ?

  • @zachg5856
    @zachg5856 4 роки тому +44

    What if Goku was made immortal so dende thought that instead of Vegeta being immortal a better thing would be for Goku to be immortal

    • @godemperorofmankind3.091
      @godemperorofmankind3.091 4 роки тому +11

      i always thought it made no sense not to wish for goku's immortality instead of wishing for piccolo to come to Namek

    • @theopulentone1573
      @theopulentone1573 4 роки тому +2

      This is Golden

    • @elides1437
      @elides1437 4 роки тому +2

      @@theopulentone1573 This is Golden Frieza*

    • @ojpickle5923
      @ojpickle5923 4 роки тому +11

      He would beat frieza without going super sayain and then he would wish to remove the immortality once he gets to earth... But if you say for some reason shenron cant undo the wish then goku would pretty much beat everybody and vegeta would probably give up on ever surpassing goku. Goku would probably let buu out just out of boredom since he can die. But then goku would be turned into candy and the rest of earth would be in trouble. Because of gokus immortality gohan never trained, vegeta lost the majority of his motivation to train, piccolo never fused with kami, and nobody went in the time chamber during the cell saga so without goku earth would be in serious trouble. Although you could say that with goku out of the picture vegeta would take the opportunity to step up and make him self immortal as well. He would know to avoid the candy beam and he would kill majin buu. Goku would be turned to normal and vegeta would finally regain his motivation to surpass goku since the playing field is even because they are both immortal. When Beerus comes to earth he would have a much darker view of the super sayain god. Because the vision beerus had was of a future rival someone that could match him in power and so if that person is immortal then that is a huge threat to him and beerus would consider this when fighting them. He would not give them any zenkais amd would be hesitant when they come on his planet to train. But we know Beerus can seal them in the z sword so he would be too afraid. When frieza learns of goku being immortal he sends his troops to gather shenron another time to make himself immortal aswell so that it can be am even fight. During the one year it takes to summon shenron frieza would be training and goku and vegeta would win the tournament against universe 6 with no problem. However an immortal goku black would be a problem and the mafuba or zeno would be the only option to deal with him. Frieza would attack earth and would get mad since the fight would never end so he would either blow up earth or get sealed away by mafuba or z sword. With an immortal body goku could push his. Super sayain blue kaioken so far that he would surpass every one in the tournament of power including jiren meaning universe 7 wins regardless of who is on the team assumimg jiren doesnt hold on to goku and take them both off stage. Even if he does Universe 7 would probably win amd everything would be fine. Goku or vegeta would live forever and one of them would become god of destruction. While the other lives on earth. Eventually both goku amd vegeta would out live every one of their friemds and family amd they might use super shenron to undo the immortality so that they can die amd be with their families once again.

    • @luislazotheoof
      @luislazotheoof 4 роки тому

      @@elides1437 *This Is Golden Frieza, the last you will ever see!!

  • @klaasvanstrien989
    @klaasvanstrien989 3 роки тому +10

    I thought that being in this endless loop of dying and reviving for many years would have made Vegeta Monstrously Strong, being able to go head to head with Beerus. That's where I thought you were going with this..

  • @xavgmng
    @xavgmng Рік тому +4

    have you thought about the implications?

  • @q3_dc2
    @q3_dc2 Рік тому +6

    He didn't think about the implications

  • @Rymatty
    @Rymatty 4 роки тому +64

    It's just hilarious thinking of Vegeta just dieing and reviving constantly it's pretty sad to say the least 🤷🏿‍♂️😭

  • @sixtovz6214
    @sixtovz6214 4 роки тому +4

    WONDERFUL! WONDERFUL! Outstanding job my guy! Keep them coming! Now I wanna make my own comic book according to your imagination!

  • @Ch1l1C0nCarnag3
    @Ch1l1C0nCarnag3 Рік тому +9

    If Vegeta spent years upon years continuously reviving and dying in space, you'd have to imagine that his Zenkai would have been stacking over and over again. Those aren't small boosts either. While each one might seem small in comparison to whatever his base would have become after that time, it would still be making him stronger and stronger. I can't imagine Vegeta wouldn't have somehow had enough rage build up inside him that he wouldn't be able to become Super Saiyan the instant it was possible.
    Now you take a Super Saiyan Vegeta who has been getting zenkai boosts continously for... what? Almost 16 years? The man would probably strong enough to make Beerus think he is "The Super Saiyan God" as is.

  • @wolfjacket551
    @wolfjacket551 4 роки тому +74

    I love how vegeta’s immortality backfired when he ended up in space

    • @businessproyects2615
      @businessproyects2615 4 роки тому +15

      He could just flew off to some star, then to another one, and given how many aliens there's in dragon ball he would had found someone.

    • @abdulmoid267
      @abdulmoid267 2 роки тому +2

      @@businessproyects2615 wow, I never thought about it but stars would work as really great beacons for Vegeta to find planets so he wouldn't need to be floating in space all these years

  • @Pacster650
    @Pacster650 Рік тому +8

    But what about the implications?

  • @Zevente
    @Zevente 4 роки тому +34

    Finally a time line where vegeta is the strong one

    • @meez3947
      @meez3947 3 роки тому +5

      and the dead one :D

  • @jamainegardner4193
    @jamainegardner4193 3 роки тому +8

    I'm pretty sure with how Vegeta would just keep getting Zenkais in space, he'd become like a growing beacon of power that Babidi would find and enslave.

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 4 роки тому +67

    If vegetables were imortal farmers will be in a heap of trouble.

    • @StanTheBland
      @StanTheBland 4 роки тому +1

      Whoever makes the farmer with a shotgun joke is gay

    • @StanTheBland
      @StanTheBland 4 роки тому +1

      All, clear bomb has been defused, no farmer with shutgun jokes insight

    • @Solesteam
      @Solesteam 4 роки тому

      @@StanTheBland what's the farmer with a shotgun joke?

    • @Solesteam
      @Solesteam 4 роки тому

      Wait I'd be better off not knowing

    • @saxdimegjivezi1361
      @saxdimegjivezi1361 4 роки тому +1

      @@Solesteam It's this meme in the DB community where Farmer With A Shotgun, the guy Raditz ran into when he landed on Earth, is secretly the strongest character in the series.

  • @rickysewell3948
    @rickysewell3948 3 роки тому +4

    These are awesome. You do a great job with them!

  • @ayashinightcore8282
    @ayashinightcore8282 4 роки тому +10

    Carthu out here building a better universe than the mcu

  • @masterscoobis2782
    @masterscoobis2782 Рік тому +4

    “Ok but did you consider the implications?”

  • @-MinuGoji
    @-MinuGoji Рік тому +6

    *_but have you thought about the implications-_*

  • @brocktonbishop5874
    @brocktonbishop5874 Рік тому +2

    It’s quite perfect! I’ve always wondered what it would be like if saiyans were immortal and they could constantly get stronger as they’re able to heal themselves, and never die.

  • @Bible-camp-victim0
    @Bible-camp-victim0 Рік тому +6

    Nice video but did vegeta consider the implications

  • @RakuraiNetwork
    @RakuraiNetwork 4 роки тому +3

    Very clean edits and great video! Can't wait for you to hit 100K!

  • @rickstoffels8326
    @rickstoffels8326 Рік тому +7

    But did Vegeta think about the implications does he regenerate and what if his head is cut of does he become a head you really need to think about the implications

  • @ashborn7343
    @ashborn7343 Рік тому +5

    Did he consider the implications

  • @robloxsufian1923
    @robloxsufian1923 4 роки тому +11

    You're content is underrated and when im bored i just go to ur channel and enjoy the stories :D

  • @dreadrath
    @dreadrath 2 роки тому +7

    Frieza would probably make his suffer for quite awhile before he got strong enough to fight back and start winning . . . though yeah, the blowing up the planet thing, Vegeta would probably regret having immortality at that point with no air to breathe, lol.

  • @bujin5455
    @bujin5455 2 роки тому +1

    That's a pretty solid analysis!

  • @jgoofy8233
    @jgoofy8233 4 роки тому

    This is a what-if I've requested alot on MasakoX's channel, but now you've done it! Thanks!

  • @ojpickle5923
    @ojpickle5923 4 роки тому +4

    How do you know Frieza had a true powelevel of 200,000,000? Where does ot say frieza is anything more than 120,000,000

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  4 роки тому +3

      I forgot to put the scan in the video, but a guide says that the Genki Dama weakened freeza from his original power level

    • @ojpickle5923
      @ojpickle5923 4 роки тому +2

      @@CarthusDojo oh okay

  • @ssjsal2159
    @ssjsal2159 4 роки тому +32

    That’s crazy just dying and reviving

  • @frozarburst6350
    @frozarburst6350 8 місяців тому +1

    "But what if you really wanted to die, monkey? I mean, what if you were just...a head or something?"
    - Lord Frieza

  • @ToxicNoxic
    @ToxicNoxic 4 роки тому +2

    aye 91K congrats! not to long from 100K!

  • @ewrjoe4822
    @ewrjoe4822 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video. Dark ending.

  • @SuperImmortal
    @SuperImmortal 4 роки тому +39

    - Goku should've escaped to Yardrat
    - Vegeta should've crash landed on another planet after Namek (not Yardrat or Vampa)
    - future Gohan should've went back in the time machine

    • @ojpickle5923
      @ojpickle5923 4 роки тому +1

      Goku blew himself up, he died he couldn't escape... As for the others your right

    • @kris7115
      @kris7115 4 роки тому +4

      @@ojpickle5923 he meant the story should have played out differently

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 4 роки тому

      @@VarietySeth in Gohan's timeline he could have just not lost his arm or be crippled from the Androids.

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 4 роки тому

      @@VarietySeth just make it a universe where Gohan survives. Just make that universe a what if. In canon he doesn't survive, but there are videos about what if Gohan survived. Why not include that in this what if as well?

    • @gcortez459
      @gcortez459 4 роки тому

      But gohan would still die from the fight on the future resulting from only f bulma going back, but that will just give them to live 1 arc

  • @squad1009
    @squad1009 4 роки тому +2

    Carthu I’m a huge fan I love your what ifs

  • @neonshiji3595
    @neonshiji3595 4 роки тому

    T h a n k y o u. IVE ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE THIS FOR OVER A DECADE NOW, THANK YOUUU

  • @martinmontanez868
    @martinmontanez868 4 роки тому +3

    This is too good!

  • @1toolaj
    @1toolaj 4 роки тому +3

    Masakox: Immortal vegeta rendition is too long
    Carthy dojo: this rendition sounds cooler

  • @killagorilla0257
    @killagorilla0257 4 роки тому

    I really enjoyed this what if, please continue it.

  • @pIayingwithmahwii
    @pIayingwithmahwii 4 роки тому

    that freeza impression was *awesome* LOL

  • @Lucario_Amiibo
    @Lucario_Amiibo Рік тому +6

    Implicate these nuts

  • @darkfang797
    @darkfang797 4 роки тому +17

    What if Potars fusion was permanent, even the dragon balls can’t undo them, maybe the super dragon balls but for the purposes of the story potara fusion is never undone

    • @ojpickle5923
      @ojpickle5923 4 роки тому +2

      Unles they can get tarble for the super sayain god ritual then they will be one sayain short and earth will be destroyed so no dragon ball

    • @jruler93
      @jruler93 4 роки тому +1

      Well, the Super Dragon Balls, in so far as we currently know, have literally no limitations on the wishes that they can grant, except that the wish must be stated in the language of the angels.

    • @str9306
      @str9306 4 роки тому +1

      Insertnamehere what in the fuck man, who in the hell is gonna read that

    • @darkfang797
      @darkfang797 4 роки тому +1

      Insertnamehere I absolutely love your comment, I think it’s a treat as I’m usually the sort of person who replies to other people’s comments with a lengthy explanation of a what if. So thank you very much for taking the time out of your day to write this, I really appreciate it. I’ll be writing my own version of this scenario on google docs (I’m afraid I’ll accidently delete the comment part way through typing it) and copy paste it as my own reply

    • @darkfang797
      @darkfang797 4 роки тому +1

      Supreme Crappy I read it!

  • @father_yusuke
    @father_yusuke 2 роки тому

    This is one of my favorite theories from u

  • @itunesrap8381
    @itunesrap8381 4 роки тому

    Continue on this is great

  • @Gaster_Undertale1337
    @Gaster_Undertale1337 Рік тому +3

    Did he consider the implications?

  • @bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368
    @bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368 4 роки тому +13

    I wonder if goku would wish for immortality himself, so he'll forever fight vegeta to protect the earth. I mean he'd probably love it, an eternal battle against a constantly improving opponent, he can go all out and vegeta can do the same

  • @JoesAnimationHub
    @JoesAnimationHub 4 роки тому +1

    Sleeping Vegeta: *snore* first the immortality... *snore* ...then the bitches.

  • @hamzanoory3993
    @hamzanoory3993 4 роки тому

    Nice video are gonna you gonna continue part 2 of broly in Beerus planet

  • @BrianAwesome
    @BrianAwesome 4 роки тому +8

    I guess present Vegeta will be released, once they realize that they need him for the Saiyan God ritual.

    • @davidlarkin1040
      @davidlarkin1040 4 роки тому

      But he still wouldn't be pure of heart.

    • @theonlychickensama8353
      @theonlychickensama8353 4 роки тому

      @@davidlarkin1040 this ^

    • @frost8945
      @frost8945 4 роки тому

      David Larkin pure of heart is literally part of the legend it went along with the idea that super saiyans need to be pure of heart it’s likely it’s another part of a legend that was more than likely meant to scare evil saiyans from even trying to do it

  • @xxasapbunsxx
    @xxasapbunsxx 4 роки тому +8

    What if gohan was the LSS?

    • @notkagura7049
      @notkagura7049 4 роки тому

      That's a good what if

    • @ojpickle5923
      @ojpickle5923 4 роки тому

      With such a massive power chi chi would be forced to lwt goku teach his son how to at least control it. Gohan kills raditz out of rage and vegeta tries to get him to fight frieza but gohan isnt a fighter so that could go many ways. But the main cast besides gohan would be much weaker amd cell would also be the legendary super sayain on top of everything else so he would kill gohan and probably be stronger than beerus if he can control his power so he would go around doing anything he wanted until the mortal level got so low that zeno destroys the universe

  • @0xyden484
    @0xyden484 11 місяців тому +1

    1. Get 2 saiyans with immortality 2. Get 1 namekian who can refresh their energy 3. Get hyperbolic timechamber 4. Put all there and make 2 saiyans fight forever againts each other 5. Take them out always when there is a threat.

  • @ZenKrio
    @ZenKrio 4 роки тому +1

    3:43 Realizing now that Goku just blew Zamasu's head clean off without hesitation.

  • @frgrangel
    @frgrangel 4 роки тому +3

    Tbh goku could have gotten a small zenkai before he became a super saiyan
    He arguably took more damage in that entire fight than frieza took from the spirit bomb, he was beaten around by frieza when he had no energy to fight anymore and he pushed his body to x20 kaioken so it's very possible that just like 120 million frieza wasn't likely at full power, 150 million goku wasn't at full power either

  • @SvarogAristaeusAllen
    @SvarogAristaeusAllen 4 роки тому +17

    "After being enemies just weeks before, Goku and Vegeta fight for the Saiyan Race"
    Hahahahaha not likely. Vegeta at this point in the series is still arrogant and brash beyond reason and likes to wave his dick around the first chance he gets so the moment he became immortal he would tell Goku to fuck off and want to fight Freeza himself.
    And rather than self-destruct, knowing Goku, he'd pull out all of his power, all the stops, for one last move: A Kamehameha, meant not to kill Vegeta, but do exactly what he did to him on Earth: Send him flying. A kamehameha meant to send him off the planet, out the solar system, hurtling into the depths of space to where he couldn't even see the planet Namek anymore so that he couldn't hurt anyone ever again. At this current power, Immortal or not, he doesn't have the strength to overpower the Kamehameha so by the time it peters out or he escapes from it he's lost in the depths of space, not knowing where he is or where he's going, being forced to wander until hopefully, he finds something.
    Goku's not an idiot and Namek doesn't need to blow up for no reason: Goku learns from his fights, and he'd use his experience here again to remove Vegeta as a threat while simultaneously staying alive.

    • @mingleboi9184
      @mingleboi9184 3 роки тому

      “Goku learns from his fights” *gives Moro a senzu bean after devouring many planets and letting Meerus die in the latest arc of super* .... yeah he really learned

  • @desiderata974
    @desiderata974 4 роки тому

    2:42 okay so ive been wondering this for a while but if you look at the piccilo art on the right youll notice that his arm- things are yellow, but in the background piccilos arms are red. Is that just a design inconsistency or is there a pourpose?

  • @clearcontentment3695
    @clearcontentment3695 4 роки тому +1

    “Kakerot do you think a dye job and hair gel
    is gonna stop me !”

  • @TheGuyVince
    @TheGuyVince 4 роки тому +4

    Eyyy you got it done while UA-cam was messing with copyright. It was a very good what if my man!

  • @jruler93
    @jruler93 4 роки тому +31

    Wait, what? If immortality is basically rapid regeneration from any would-be fatal injury, then how exactly would that protect Vegeta from w GoD's Hakai, which completely destroys both the body and soul of the target?

    • @hanging4176
      @hanging4176 4 роки тому

      jruler93 It wouldn’t.

    • @CarthusDojo
      @CarthusDojo  4 роки тому +23

      jruler93 Beerus stated he can’t kill an immortal so regardless of if it makes sense to you or not, the series said an immortal cannot be killed by the Hakai.

    • @jruler93
      @jruler93 4 роки тому +1

      Carthu's Dojo Oh okay. Thanks for explaining it to me. I haven't watched Super, and while I've been spoiled to HFIL and back on most of the major details of the series, I'm not aware of a lot of the more minor details like that.

    • @Android-dg5ri
      @Android-dg5ri 4 роки тому +1

      @Luis Suazo whis can seal immortal being in a pocket dimension

    • @kristianschuff1723
      @kristianschuff1723 4 роки тому

      @@CarthusDojo he did when can you provide a link

  • @gleo7324
    @gleo7324 4 роки тому

    Get this man to 100k

  • @theeblackroyal
    @theeblackroyal 4 роки тому +1

    "Now hit, *MY* music"

  • @astolfo2305
    @astolfo2305 4 роки тому +6

    bulma would go past and tell goku + others about androids

  • @ace.mp4827
    @ace.mp4827 4 роки тому +6

    If vegetable kept experiencing death over and over wouldn’t he get a lot of zenkai boosts and make him really strong

  • @eugenekrabs2403
    @eugenekrabs2403 4 роки тому

    Beerus using a sword, now that's some fan art I would kill to see

  • @hecray514
    @hecray514 3 роки тому +2

    IF Every time vegeta got angry his power level when up by 1 he would been stronger than both zenos

  • @teosk-firesteam655
    @teosk-firesteam655 4 роки тому +5

    I think that beerus would still like to fight vegeta, with his immortality, he would eventualy catch up to beerus