Looking at alot of those hall of famers that are already in the Hall they didn't do much more than he did in three great healthy years all NBA a few times NBA finals second year alot of players in the Hall never made first team or went to the finals so why isn't he in there🤷🏿♂️
Pip was my guy and Penny used to scare the shiiiit out of me. That guy was SCARY, everywhere. His post game he'd dance around a helpless Pippen. Mind you Pippen is considered one of the greatest defenders of all time. Too bad Penny got injured.
Penny was the truth. Had he not had the injuries he did, he would of easily been a top 10 player of all time. One of my favorites players of all time after A.I.
@@tracymcgrady902 Kobe never played the ripe hardaway by time he was near top himself. Tmac was more himself and therefore would give kobe more challenge. If penny not get injured and injured with like five surgeries, and kept getting better and stayed healthy, hardaway would be tougher for Kobe to deal with. And remember, penny was Kobe/lebron before there was Kobe/lebron
The funny thing that Shaq even said that he was Kobe before Kobe. And people on that podcast STILL doubted Shaq saying “nah, no way”, Wow…a guy who played with Both. Crazy!!
If you are from that era, you will know how scary Penny was. For those who knows his game, everytime he is brought into conversation, guys would just take a pause because everybody there knows how great of a players he would become, if not having injury.
@@LOL-ro9ef wow... that's a hot take. LOL I'll entertain a little that ELITE guys like Kobe, Penny, GHILL, can get off on him. But they can get off on anyone...
A healthy Penny would be a top 5 NBA player all time...yes it would put him over Kobe & LeBron...Just think of the 97 playoffs against the heat...he almost willed them to win by himself
Kenny Dupree Absence of Penny and Hill led to a vacuum of selfless leadership filled by many players misapplying MJ's example as a me first dunk first win second lesson, and not understanding the game. Hence you had the Starburies. Had Penny and Hill been healthy, it would have been a more fluid transition, and arguably, LBJ and today's players (a great generation of talent, good dudes, and talent) might be even better having seen more of those two, and not having experienced their premature injury shortened careers.
+Domini478 Jordan had problems guard Penny that's why Phil threw Pippen in to defend him, it took two different guys to guard Penny, plus the point guard.
+Domini478 Go back and watch those Bulls-Magic series, if Penny wasn't a threat why did the Bulls defend him with Pippen and not Brown or Kerr? The ECF Bulls guarded Penny with Jordan, Pippen, and a point guard at the end of each quarter and first half.
Grant Hill, Penny, Glen Rice, Glen Robinson, Jamal Mashburn etc.. alot of real cats cooked Pippen's overrated ahh defense.. he never stopped anyone elite, MJ was always the better 1 on 1 defender if he wasn't carrying the entire load on offense.
Penny was making the Bulls team look crazy ! Lol if only he stayed healthy smh.... So many great players that don't have rings ! Rings don't define how great you are !
their wasnt alot of players you can compare magic and jordan game to since i been alive. Lebron is the second but a long time ago penny made you learn the Hardaway 407 all day
Dude, iRemember watching this game when iWas 10 & seeing him make that half-court shot at the buzzer. Prior to that, iHad never seen it done before & plus iThought making a basket from that distance were more worth than 3pts.
I don't understand how people hate LeBron but didn't hate Shaq?? Anyways this should have been the rivalry of the decade. I wish Shaq would've stayed in Orlando. Penny was getting better year by year and who knows how that would've affected Penny's career, Shaq's career, and even Jordan's career
i saw them series live i swear back in the day those were the finals part 1 i was kissing my canal + cable box it went off but then bulls crushed them it was good man
Kobe and Lebron are no match to a healthy Penny. This is the era when real defense is played. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, this trio could make it to 1st team defensive team all time.
"I don't care what anyone has to say about it...Penny Hardaway not only held his own weight playing against the Bulls & Jordan but was a threat to Jordan himself. Look @ the way he owns Pippen (Prince Of The Court Dubbed by Jordan) & look @ what he does to Jordan in one-on-one combat. Too bad injuries got to him cause he would've been a champion multiple times over right now...straight up. Penny's the man"
If only Pennys' legs wouldn't had given out on him he would have become one of the best players of his generation. He was on his way to finally developing a 3 point shot and improving his back to the basket game. He single handedly vrought the big point guard into the league(6-6+).
Actually it was Magic who brought the oversized PG into the NBA. Penny was just sort of the culmination of the trend through the 80s and into the 90s. In many ways he was a version of Pippen without the rebounding or defensive lockdown ability, but with more offense generally.
he was the best defender in the 90s what small forward in the 90s offense was good as carmelo anthony,kevin durant,lebron james,rudy gay,paul pierce,rudy gay,? nobody my point axactly and ron artest made all them struggle at least once, scottie got carried by penny hardaway his offense was good not near none of them i just named
@@ChrisM07 Isn't that how the team normally played? Brian Hill was a dumb ass coach, he should have been fired after losing Orlando lost to the Rockets.
While I respect your opinion,Penny would've had a hard time with the '84-'93 Jordan.Now,the '95-'98 Jordan,one on one would lose to Penny,but not by a mile.
I'm a bulls fan! But I tell ya I admired Penny during this era. Loved his play, character, and his heart for the game. Plus he wasn't a thug like most of the NBA players today covered in tatoos! I miss the 90's NBA!
Penny was awesome! The only guy I could think of that made Pippen look like a poor defender. Big loss for the NBA when Penny and G.Hill had those injuries. I think they would both be in the top 10-15 of all-time.And yeah,i miss the NBA of the 90's.Watching less and less NBA as time goes on.
Hardaway was a great offensive talent and when players like that get hot it doesn't matter who is on them, yes I am saying it wouldnt even matter if Jordan was on Penny this game. Have you watched the video? Pippen wasn't playing bad defense.
Jordans the goat,but this game makes u say "what if"? Sad knee injuries and surgeries robbed penny of his atheletism.he was gonna be a perrenial all star,possible MVP, and maybe a ring or two prior to that.same with grant hill,Webber and Larry Johnson.
silvester dorsey well if mj is the goat! show did let penny get the best of him, every time they played. but another goat came a lone, and his name was Kobe bryant, and he killed penny hardaway_.
Penny was better Lj. Grant was cool and Web but Penny was special he cross you or spin on outside. On the inside he dream Shake you in fade away or spin inside and dunk. He way more special
had the Magic not gotten swept Shaq likely would've stayed and him and Penny would''ve gotten at least one ring..but then again, had they beat the Rockets and won the championship the year before the probably wouldn't have minded losing this series
Hardaway was a bad boy. Not a big scorer, but he could put up numbers when needed. He could've rivaled Magic, but Hardaway was a bad boy during his time. Magic IMO is the greatest Laker ever. And the greatest PG of all time.
@Domini478 you act like MJ was perfect. jordan was a human and still had trouble guarding other superstars. read his autobiography. he talks about guarding guys like charles barkley and reggie miller. and yes he did admit penny hardaway was the hardest to guard. penny had the height advantage on MJ so phil jackson usually had pippen guard penny and let MJ hound nick anderson. nobody's lying. your just a young cat and you don't know your history
Penny Hardaway will always be remembered !! No injuries and we're talking penny to the hall of fame.
Facts
Looking at alot of those hall of famers that are already in the Hall they didn't do much more than he did in three great healthy years all NBA a few times NBA finals second year alot of players in the Hall never made first team or went to the finals so why isn't he in there🤷🏿♂️
if you can drop 38 points on one of the best defensive team and defensive player ever! then you are a legend!
Pip was my guy and Penny used to scare the shiiiit out of me. That guy was SCARY, everywhere. His post game he'd dance around a helpless Pippen. Mind you Pippen is considered one of the greatest defenders of all time. Too bad Penny got injured.
same
Right! That's the killer. ...Pippen a top-tier defender & Penny still cookin him. Penny was a beast!
If I had the power to give any player their career back injury free after having it ruined by injuries, Penny Hardaway is easily my first choice
Matt Campbell I'ma go with d.rose
Man he was so good! I’d love to see what he could’ve done with an injury free career!
Love Penny. But I gotta go with Grant Hill.
@@balbin0329 tmac would be better than them. he was compared to kobe.
I would choose him or Grant Hill
Young Penny was unstoppable
these kids today don't know how great Penny was
Yup.. it was a damn shame he had to get injured. I always thought he had the potential to be one of the greatest ever.
Ryan Storm exactly
desertdetroiter Too far
I'd say top 10. I can't think of a point guard like Penny. If Tracy played point and pass more than shoot.
Agree
Penny had some of the best handles I ever saw. Injuries ruined a hall of fame career. And he was unselfish as a scoring point guard.
He's the reason why I love the game, childhood hero here
Penny was the greatest player ever from memphis.and there have been some great ones..
Penny was killin in this entire series.
born 92, but Penny will always be (alongside Tim Duncan) my favourite player. I love your style. Penny could have been # 1 :(
Penny was the truth. Had he not had the injuries he did, he would of easily been a top 10 player of all time. One of my favorites players of all time after A.I.
+King 27 ask kobe who is the toughest player he ever played against and that is T-MAC
@@tracymcgrady902 Kobe never played the ripe hardaway by time he was near top himself. Tmac was more himself and therefore would give kobe more challenge. If penny not get injured and injured with like five surgeries, and kept getting better and stayed healthy, hardaway would be tougher for Kobe to deal with. And remember, penny was Kobe/lebron before there was Kobe/lebron
The most graceful player for sure !!!!
Never thought of him as graceful. Freaking explosive as fork.
@@practicaldriverfacts
Penny is his prime was an amazing talent
in term of pure talent,skills and level..he is one of the best ever...even if he doesn't have a lot of achievements...
My favorite player of all time
Penny my all time fav player
loved to watch him play this takes me back
The only pg in history who loves posting up inside. He can post up 1,2,3 and 4 position.
Absolutely 💯
Uhhhh Magic needs to have a word with you !
miss his play so much!
The funny thing that Shaq even said that he was Kobe before Kobe. And people on that podcast STILL doubted Shaq saying “nah, no way”, Wow…a guy who played with Both. Crazy!!
He's a champion in my eyes.
If you are from that era, you will know how scary Penny was. For those who knows his game, everytime he is brought into conversation, guys would just take a pause because everybody there knows how great of a players he would become, if not having injury.
Yeah he is my favorite player in 90, and I believe he is the best one on one player in history
Penny was giving them boys that work! I forgot how great he was. Damn injuries ruined a certain hall of fame career.
So right! Penny wasn't just good, the man was a great player.
Penny used to scare the crap out of me. He did this to PIP man!
Pip was not an elite 1 on 1 defender
@@LOL-ro9ef wow... that's a hot take. LOL
I'll entertain a little that ELITE guys like Kobe, Penny, GHILL, can get off on him. But they can get off on anyone...
If there was no injury, penny would be a legend like MJ
And he did it against Scottie Pippen.
What a player.
My Childhood Idol💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Back then there was only one way to do it; the Hardway!!! RIP 90s basketball.
1:03 embarrassed Pippen lol
Abigail Weller Anfernee is one of the greatest ever.
man...he got all the tools to be one of the greatest....range, killer instinct, handle, iQ, athletic, defense, poise....damn those injuries...
Watched a lot of these games live, the Magic lost this series but Penny use to cook Scottie Pippen on one on one match ups like stir fried. lol
Yes and Scottie Pippen one of greatest defenders ever but Penny Hardaway was lighting him up
Penny's so good they had to put Pippen on him most of the time, to save Jordan (the old days' version of minutes and game management).
A healthy Penny would be a top 5 NBA player all time...yes it would put him over Kobe & LeBron...Just think of the 97 playoffs against the heat...he almost willed them to win by himself
Greatest at flopping
Kenny Dupree Absence of Penny and Hill led to a vacuum of selfless leadership filled by many players misapplying MJ's example as a me first dunk first win second lesson, and not understanding the game. Hence you had the Starburies. Had Penny and Hill been healthy, it would have been a more fluid transition, and arguably, LBJ and today's players (a great generation of talent, good dudes, and talent) might be even better having seen more of those two, and not having experienced their premature injury shortened careers.
Agreed
kobe is not top 10
Kenny Dupree ..... That Masterful 40 piece (41-8-8) he hung on them in the OG Foamposites💯💪🏾🔥🔥🔥
Penny was putting in serious work!!!
Penny already has that left knee bandaged here, I think it was in the first round verse Detroit where he says he first damaged the knee :(
Maaaaaaan, he was unstoppable!!!
Perhaps the player Jordan had the most trouble guarding.
+Domini478 Jordan had problems guard Penny that's why Phil threw Pippen in to defend him, it took two different guys to guard Penny, plus the point guard.
+Domini478 Meaning as an older player you can't guard younger guys.
+Domini478 Go back and watch those Bulls-Magic series, if Penny wasn't a threat why did the Bulls defend him with Pippen and not Brown or Kerr? The ECF Bulls guarded Penny with Jordan, Pippen, and a point guard at the end of each quarter and first half.
Domini478 You don't think age comes in to play?
+Domini478 u buggin
Penny was ranked number 130 in Slam's top 500 players of all-time magazine!!!!
Penny was so damn sick!
Only guy to give pippen fits on the court, ever!!!
Grant hill used to cook Pippen too. But penny use to cook Pippen like barbecue chicken.
@@MackP414😂😂😂
Grant Hill, Penny, Glen Rice, Glen Robinson, Jamal Mashburn etc.. alot of real cats cooked Pippen's overrated ahh defense.. he never stopped anyone elite, MJ was always the better 1 on 1 defender if he wasn't carrying the entire load on offense.
Penny was making the Bulls team look crazy ! Lol if only he stayed healthy smh.... So many great players that don't have rings ! Rings don't define how great you are !
penny without the injuries is top 5 all time, how many players can you say played with shaq in his prime and was better than shaq, only one hardaway
their wasnt alot of players you can compare magic and jordan game to since i been alive. Lebron is the second but a long time ago penny made you learn the Hardaway 407 all day
Penny did it ALL!
Dude, iRemember watching this game when iWas 10 & seeing him make that half-court shot at the buzzer. Prior to that, iHad never seen it done before & plus iThought making a basket from that distance were more worth than 3pts.
I actually remember watching this game in real time
I don't understand how people hate LeBron but didn't hate Shaq?? Anyways this should have been the rivalry of the decade. I wish Shaq would've stayed in Orlando. Penny was getting better year by year and who knows how that would've affected Penny's career, Shaq's career, and even Jordan's career
My twin brother and i's FAVORITE player!
Penny is the one can beat mj
I always point to this game with bulls fans anytime they say that Pippen would be able to slow down Kevin Durant. lol
if it wasn't for the injuires, penny could have been an all-time great
MJ always killed Penny like he did every body else.
Next head coach for university of memphis!!!
Pippen/ Hardaway/ Hill all day
Mark Mante . . .& Iverson
Penny was unguardable in this game.
MJ, as great as he was, never gave anybody props. That's one of the major difference between him and other great players.
penny hardaway and grant hill getting injured was the best thing to happen to kobe's career
i saw them series live i swear back in the day those were the finals part 1 i was kissing my canal + cable box it went off but then bulls crushed them it was good man
Whats with the 'Penny' dunk at 0:45 and then show Nick Anderson at 0:47 running away like he did it?
uhhh, cause anderson made the assist.
stonedcold I always thought they showed the scorer first regardless. No big deal
Kobe and Lebron are no match to a healthy Penny. This is the era when real defense is played. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, this trio could make it to 1st team defensive team all time.
"I don't care what anyone has to say about it...Penny Hardaway not only held his own weight playing against the Bulls & Jordan but was a threat to Jordan himself. Look @ the way he owns Pippen (Prince Of The Court Dubbed by Jordan) & look @ what he does to Jordan in one-on-one combat. Too bad injuries got to him cause he would've been a champion multiple times over right now...straight up. Penny's the man"
If only Pennys' legs wouldn't had given out on him he would have become one of the best players of his generation. He was on his way to finally developing a 3 point shot and improving his back to the basket game. He single handedly vrought the big point guard into the league(6-6+).
Reminds me of Magic and DWade. Style of play wise.
Dwyane Wade wouldn't do shit to Clyde? Please man. Wade is too athletic for CLyde. CLyde would need major help to guard Wade in his prime.
Actually it was Magic who brought the oversized PG into the NBA. Penny was just sort of the culmination of the trend through the 80s and into the 90s. In many ways he was a version of Pippen without the rebounding or defensive lockdown ability, but with more offense generally.
Whether he has to guard them isn't the point. The point is MJ couldn't stop everybody.
(Insert childish insult)
My second greatest player of all time!
he was the best defender in the 90s what small forward in the 90s offense was good as carmelo anthony,kevin durant,lebron james,rudy gay,paul pierce,rudy gay,? nobody my point axactly and ron artest made all them struggle at least once, scottie got carried by penny hardaway his offense was good not near none of them i just named
Some of y'all be forgettin to put Mr. Iverson along with Penny & Grant. . .Three of 'em are in that same damn category & how their careers ended too.
There is NO player like him today.
Shaq was so checked out in this series
@Domini478 Sorry I mess up but Jordan did gave him props google it you will find it
Man . He was taking on mj and scottie .
why they dont have the highlights from 95 season when penny in shaq knock the bulls out. when jordan was wearing 45.
If you don't know how great was Penny after watching this video, go and watch how Pippen played against Magic Johnson in the past
The 3 dislikes were Pippen Jordan and Rodman.
Penny was getting all the rolls that game, not hating, just an observation
was it in iverson's rookie season when jordan dropped 31 but iverson dropped 32??
Top 5 most talented ever
Penny scored 38, and they still got blown out by 38. That's how great the 96 Bulls were
The rest of the team was standing around on the perimeter waiting for an open look Shaq and Penny were the only ones scoring.
@@ChrisM07 Isn't that how the team normally played? Brian Hill was a dumb ass coach, he should have been fired after losing Orlando lost to the Rockets.
Penny giving Scottie that work!
While I respect your opinion,Penny would've had a hard time with the '84-'93 Jordan.Now,the '95-'98 Jordan,one on one would lose to Penny,but not by a mile.
What was the final score?
I'm a bulls fan! But I tell ya I admired Penny during this era. Loved his play, character, and his heart for the game. Plus he wasn't a thug like most of the NBA players today covered in tatoos! I miss the 90's NBA!
That NBA on NBC music still instantly cheers me up
Penny was awesome! The only guy I could think of that made Pippen look like a poor defender. Big loss for the NBA when Penny and G.Hill had those injuries. I think they would both be in the top 10-15 of all-time.And yeah,i miss the NBA of the 90's.Watching less and less NBA as time goes on.
NEBLEEKS Same happened to T Mac
+ricorob100 So tattoos=thug by default
I know this comment has to be a white guy. Tattoos equal thug smh
Hardaway was a great offensive talent and when players like that get hot it doesn't matter who is on them, yes I am saying it wouldnt even matter if Jordan was on Penny this game. Have you watched the video? Pippen wasn't playing bad defense.
I Agree... I always told people LeBron is a combination of Penny & Grant Hill.
Ok guy, you got it. Jordan won every year he played a full season until the day he retired. You're absolutely 100% right
33 is early 30s no excuses bruh penny is just a beast bruh
Jordans the goat,but this game makes u say "what if"? Sad knee injuries and surgeries robbed penny of his atheletism.he was gonna be a perrenial all star,possible MVP, and maybe a ring or two prior to that.same with grant hill,Webber and Larry Johnson.
silvester dorsey well if mj is the goat! show did let penny get the best of him, every time they played. but another goat came a lone, and his name was Kobe bryant, and he killed penny hardaway_.
Penny was better Lj. Grant was cool and Web but Penny was special he cross you or spin on outside. On the inside he dream Shake you in fade away or spin inside and dunk. He way more special
Happy Birthday!
had the Magic not gotten swept Shaq likely would've stayed and him and Penny would''ve gotten at least one ring..but then again, had they beat the Rockets and won the championship the year before the probably wouldn't have minded losing this series
Nick Anderson bricking 4 free throws when only 1 of them would've won Game 1 probably would've seen Orlando win in 95.
The first 3 years Shaq was in LA the playoff results were the same, he needed a defensive minded coach like Phil Jackson.
Shaqs ego and him demanding a bigger contract..smh. that's why he left. They could have really grown together.
@@hsvsv8 I still can't believe that..4 straight!
That is a misconception. Phil Jackson assign MJ or Pip defend the best player depending on the best matchup.
Penny COOKIN Pippen! 🔥
Hardaway was a bad boy. Not a big scorer, but he could put up numbers when needed. He could've rivaled Magic, but Hardaway was a bad boy during his time. Magic IMO is the greatest Laker ever. And the greatest PG of all time.
My points is facts. MJ was a shut down defender. He was on 9 All NBA Defensive 1st teams and Defensive Player Of the Year in 1988.
penny hardaway would dominate jordan in my opinion too beast
@Domini478 you act like MJ was perfect. jordan was a human and still had trouble guarding other superstars. read his autobiography. he talks about guarding guys like charles barkley and reggie miller. and yes he did admit penny hardaway was the hardest to guard. penny had the height advantage on MJ so phil jackson usually had pippen guard penny and let MJ hound nick anderson. nobody's lying. your just a young cat and you don't know your history
Okay. But didnt the Bulls win this game and didn't they sweep the Magic in the series? It kind of makes this whole video ring kind of hollow.
The video is about Penny not the Magic.
@@AB1B1 - No shit, Sherlock.
Well why u...never fucking mind.