Seeing you without your coat feels like seeing you naked. But now the question is... What does it feel like seeing you actually naked? Is your skin just a regenerative layer of stylish winter coats?
Billy Zambidis What's this obsession with his coat or scarf in every god damn video. It's so old. Are you surprised every single time after seeing it a thousand times?
Wayne Lim The Prestige is the quintessential Nolan movie. It's by far his best and also very self-reflective on Nolan's part. He sums up all of his movies in it - "You want to be fooled". All of his movies are really in your face, with a heap of "cool" ideas that aren't fully explored or articulated very well and insane visual effects that try to hide it. But the viewers want to think that these movies are more than they are, because they want to be fooled, they want to witness something genius. Many movies could be made more of than they are, if someone put their mind to it. Nolan for some unknown reason gets the benefit of the doubt. "Maybe there's more to this film than i thought" Most overrated are Interstellar and Inception. Both films are a huge mess plot-wise. They start from these insanely huge ideas, but in the end turn out to just be family dramas. Nolan is forgiven way more often than he should be for all this mud in his films. He doesn't know himself what he's trying to say in half of his films. He comes up with random ideas and drops them around as quotables, but leaves it up to the viewer to make more of them than they are in his own mind.
When you were talking movies unfolding and being just as good in subsequent watchings, I immediately thought of The Prestige (and also Inception). And then you mentioned The Prestige. Awesome.
The Prestige is my all time favourite film. The reveals are perfect because it's not really until you watch it a second time that you realise what was infront of you the whole time.
hey thoorin i really enjoy your videos, the way you analyze things, your analogies, your outlook on players, teams strats and especially the historic knowledge behind all your videos. With that said, I really wish you would convert your videos into soundcloud podcasts, hope you read this, great video.
That is actually a big problem for me as a viewer. I watched almost every game of league for NA EU and Korea for like 1 1/2 years now and I feel like I can't remember shit about games I watched. At first I thought I'm not watching it from the correct perspective but then I looked at how I view regular sports and there is no difference. Yet I can remember like a rediculous number of NBA, Soccer, Football... whatever.. games. The difference beeing I remember those games because they had a greater context. One example beeing Dirk Nowitzkis playoff-run to winning his first NBA title. There was an ongoing story about the mavericks not beeing able to perform in playoffs dispite Nowitzki hardcarrying the team. Nevertheless in those playoffs he just turned absolutely godlike and his team overcame the problems they had before. And guess what I remember every game, every tale of every game like it was yesterday. That's mostly because there was a storyline leading up to this. A repeating pattern (which was a topic among experts every time the playoffs came up) and this pattern got broken in a way, which makes this very memorable. In League I don't feel like there are any ongoing storylines presented, at least not in a meaningful way. I feel like I'm just watching the game, because there is a winner and a loser at the end but it has no real implications, no story, no developments, which is pretty sad, especially when I'm seeing how it's done on a day to day basis in "real" sports.
It isn't just the storyline, a number of factors make the mojo of a sport. The format, quality of the teams, personalities, entertainment value, people who cover it, the list goes on. These factors put together can make a huge difference in your perspective and approach of how you watch the games in the big picture, if there are holes in most of them you will start to lose the enthusiam to watch it frequently. I'm thinking ways to expand these thoughts but honestly this isn't the plataform to talk about it :P.
Im going to be working on a few videos going over some EU times and some flaws I see with their teams. So I guess team analytical work. I'd like to know what recording software you use.
the prestige is a great movie, I will continue to support that idea, I hope one day people talk about it as much as they talk about movies such as Citizen Kane, Check out Kiss Kiss Bang Bang too Thorin, , its one of Robert Downey Jrs earlier roles with Val Kilmer but its great.
thorin i heard you read the comments. i have one question for you: if the object of making lists is for other people to understand your criteria, why do the lists matter at all? if you have the same criteria, and the same weight on every single one, everybody has the same list. shouldn't the debate be more focused on your ideas of "what makes a good team / player", than actually creating lists? and if you read this, a thing i never fully worked out is: how would you define support player? i understand the concept, but i have big difficulties designing a definition that would fit every support player in every game.
I really hope this challenge actually yields results and we get more top 10 "x" players. The scene would benefit greatly from a more in-depth thinking and the arguments that would sprout.
Great job Thoorin i really love your videos,and i really like the way you think.I would love to see a top 20 players of all time in CS like you did in League of Legends,please make it happens... :D
I dream of being an analyst, I want to get better at it and I think I have atleast some talent for it.. I would love to have some kind of mentor for it. I have a real passion for learning the game and having knowledge for it.
Could you make a piece about TSM vs CLG rivlary up to the playoffs? It would be interesting to see how it changed the rankings of each team and the NA league itself.
JOSHYY BOII Clearly not a clue from what hes talking ... Dendi is clearly no personality lol Has so few personalities that even Valve made an Movie ... right .... Get out and hate elsewhere !
In the DotA scene, Hot_Bid comes to mind when I want an article with a rich story line from the scene. His 2 articles that he wrote for TheScore on NA vs. EU was really well written and he set it up in a way that someone like me who skims through news a lot, stops and invest in his stories. Here are the articles he wrote: www.thescoreesports.com/news/153 www.thescoreesports.com/news/200
This makes me want to write an article on top 10 skilled cs:go players or top 10 cs:go players with the highest skill ceiling because there are a lot of players with insane aim (scream,shroud,forest) that are better aim wise and movement wise than other players but those other players are more successful with more game impact etc and why that is or at least my theory's on each of these. I think it would be interesting. Sorry if this is messy Af I'm really tired right now and writing this out on my phone.
am i the only person that thinks thoorin sounds really different in this vid.. like watch this then watch his cheater which hunt.. his voice is so much deeper and stretched in this video
The eSports scene is lucky to have you, Thorin. Thanks for sharing your passion with the world.
Seeing you without your coat feels like seeing you naked.
But now the question is... What does it feel like seeing you actually naked? Is your skin just a regenerative layer of stylish winter coats?
Where is Thorin and what have you done with his coat
Pretty sure he's in a hotel in London for the GFinity event
yam s What would the coat be doing over there?
easily best comment of today
Billy Zambidis What's this obsession with his coat or scarf in every god damn video. It's so old. Are you surprised every single time after seeing it a thousand times?
muk as Its the joke because he wears the coat every video but when he does not have one on its strange.
I'm glad we have ppl like Thorin in out scene!
Holy shit, your favorite movie is The Prestige. Good lord. What a man.
because that's a crazy good movie
I love that movie too, but I never hear anyone talk about it.
Wayne Lim The Prestige is the quintessential Nolan movie. It's by far his best and also very self-reflective on Nolan's part. He sums up all of his movies in it - "You want to be fooled". All of his movies are really in your face, with a heap of "cool" ideas that aren't fully explored or articulated very well and insane visual effects that try to hide it. But the viewers want to think that these movies are more than they are, because they want to be fooled, they want to witness something genius. Many movies could be made more of than they are, if someone put their mind to it. Nolan for some unknown reason gets the benefit of the doubt. "Maybe there's more to this film than i thought"
Most overrated are Interstellar and Inception. Both films are a huge mess plot-wise. They start from these insanely huge ideas, but in the end turn out to just be family dramas. Nolan is forgiven way more often than he should be for all this mud in his films. He doesn't know himself what he's trying to say in half of his films. He comes up with random ideas and drops them around as quotables, but leaves it up to the viewer to make more of them than they are in his own mind.
muk as There is a reason why I watch The Prestige as least once a year for the past decade.
The moment you mentioned great movies the first movie I thought of was The Prestige. Christopher Nolan what a guy.
When you were talking movies unfolding and being just as good in subsequent watchings, I immediately thought of The Prestige (and also Inception). And then you mentioned The Prestige. Awesome.
Pause in the beggining.That sensual thorin look XD
Loved this talk. Can really live through your passions even though I don't care much for sports in general.
The Prestige is my all time favourite film. The reveals are perfect because it's not really until you watch it a second time that you realise what was infront of you the whole time.
hey thoorin i really enjoy your videos, the way you analyze things, your analogies, your outlook on players, teams strats and especially the historic knowledge behind all your videos. With that said, I really wish you would convert your videos into soundcloud podcasts, hope you read this, great video.
Did you get a space heater?
He seems to be in a hotel room... otherwise i can't explain the absence of his coat and scarf...
Skyfox94 Yeah, he's in London, being analysist on Gfinity
tubewoodycool
Makes sense, thanks for the info
No worries. He will wear it even at the summer
The only time Thorin is allowed a heater, is when he stays in a hotel room for an event.
That is actually a big problem for me as a viewer. I watched almost every game of league for NA EU and Korea for like 1 1/2 years now and I feel like I can't remember shit about games I watched. At first I thought I'm not watching it from the correct perspective but then I looked at how I view regular sports and there is no difference. Yet I can remember like a rediculous number of NBA, Soccer, Football... whatever.. games. The difference beeing I remember those games because they had a greater context. One example beeing Dirk Nowitzkis playoff-run to winning his first NBA title. There was an ongoing story about the mavericks not beeing able to perform in playoffs dispite Nowitzki hardcarrying the team. Nevertheless in those playoffs he just turned absolutely godlike and his team overcame the problems they had before. And guess what I remember every game, every tale of every game like it was yesterday. That's mostly because there was a storyline leading up to this. A repeating pattern (which was a topic among experts every time the playoffs came up) and this pattern got broken in a way, which makes this very memorable.
In League I don't feel like there are any ongoing storylines presented, at least not in a meaningful way. I feel like I'm just watching the game, because there is a winner and a loser at the end but it has no real implications, no story, no developments, which is pretty sad, especially when I'm seeing how it's done on a day to day basis in "real" sports.
It isn't just the storyline, a number of factors make the mojo of a sport. The format, quality of the teams, personalities, entertainment value, people who cover it, the list goes on. These factors put together can make a huge difference in your perspective and approach of how you watch the games in the big picture, if there are holes in most of them you will start to lose the enthusiam to watch it frequently. I'm thinking ways to expand these thoughts but honestly this isn't the plataform to talk about it :P.
Ryan Mont Serrat Yeah exactly that's why I just focused on one point :P
i am expert challenjour for legend of leaguer communist, can you hire me since im stuck in unemployment hell, gg
well it would appear that I'm the first. so uh... what's up vvvortic?
***** By spamming bullshit in every LoL video. "For the better" - yep, sure......
Doing great at Gfinity, my man! You and Scoots sure have some interesting conversations.
Im going to be working on a few videos going over some EU times and some flaws I see with their teams. So I guess team analytical work. I'd like to know what recording software you use.
OBS
If you are going to write notes on your screen or use MS paint in your videos.
Kind of what Lastshadow9 does then OBS is good choice.
Wait, how/when did you record/upload this? To my knowledge you're presently at the Gfinity LAN event =P
You can schedule your uploads. So youtube publishes them when you want.
8Sephirot8 Yeah, I kinda figured, after I posed the question
Thorin is illuminati. He is all. He does all.
8Sephirot8 Except he clearly recorded this at the hotel room during the LAN event.
still the upload went live when he was not present ;) thats what I was refering to
Watched Trainspotting and Snatch like 3 or 4 times. Still some of the best independent movies ever.
the prestige is a great movie, I will continue to support that idea, I hope one day people talk about it as much as they talk about movies such as Citizen Kane, Check out Kiss Kiss Bang Bang too Thorin, , its one of Robert Downey Jrs earlier roles with Val Kilmer but its great.
Sometimes I put on Thorin's videos merely to hear his voice.
really digging the new layout! nice picture above your bed ;^)
MaggotJoko he's at gfinity
It's a hotel room
Thooorin Is that why you are only in a shirt?
Thooorin a hotel that can pay their heating bill apparently
Thooorin its a nice hotel room then :D
thorin i heard you read the comments.
i have one question for you: if the object of making lists is for other people to understand your criteria, why do the lists matter at all?
if you have the same criteria, and the same weight on every single one, everybody has the same list. shouldn't the debate be more focused on your ideas of "what makes a good team / player", than actually creating lists?
and if you read this, a thing i never fully worked out is: how would you define support player? i understand the concept, but i have big difficulties designing a definition that would fit every support player in every game.
I really hope this challenge actually yields results and we get more top 10 "x" players. The scene would benefit greatly from a more in-depth thinking and the arguments that would sprout.
Great job Thoorin i really love your videos,and i really like the way you think.I would love to see a top 20 players of all time in CS like you did in League of Legends,please make it happens... :D
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I dream of being an analyst, I want to get better at it and I think I have atleast some talent for it.. I would love to have some kind of mentor for it. I have a real passion for learning the game and having knowledge for it.
Could you make a piece about TSM vs CLG rivlary up to the playoffs? It would be interesting to see how it changed the rankings of each team and the NA league itself.
I sure hope ppl take thorin up on this
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i rlly want to get more involved in csgo but im in australia so internet is shithouse
i don't play dota2 or lol, but there is any reason for you not covering the dota scene?
shit game shit Esports no personality's
JOSHYY BOII Clearly not a clue from what hes talking ... Dendi is clearly no personality lol
Has so few personalities that even Valve made an Movie ... right ....
Get out and hate elsewhere !
not hate Dota is dead lol dont be salty
It's so weird watching him talk without a cough drop lol
Love how all anyone cares about is that hes not wearing a jacket.
In the DotA scene, Hot_Bid comes to mind when I want an article with a rich story line from the scene. His 2 articles that he wrote for TheScore on NA vs. EU was really well written and he set it up in a way that someone like me who skims through news a lot, stops and invest in his stories.
Here are the articles he wrote:
www.thescoreesports.com/news/153
www.thescoreesports.com/news/200
This makes me want to write an article on top 10 skilled cs:go players or top 10 cs:go players with the highest skill ceiling because there are a lot of players with insane aim (scream,shroud,forest) that are better aim wise and movement wise than other players but those other players are more successful with more game impact etc and why that is or at least my theory's on each of these. I think it would be interesting. Sorry if this is messy Af I'm really tired right now and writing this out on my phone.
Thorin, is your work on e-sports currently enough for you to live or do you have sidejobs?
i guess you could say it pays the bills... well, except for the heating bill
I love the prestige too, are we bffs now?
ayyy the prestige what a film
Should they do top 10 cutest boys too?
finally! you saved üp some money to pay your gas bills :) so nice to see you not freezing :D
yesss the prestige is so good
he fixed his radiator !
you fixed your heating
hotel
am i the only person that thinks thoorin sounds really different in this vid.. like watch this then watch his cheater which hunt.. his voice is so much deeper and stretched in this video
It feels so strange not to see him without his coat, why does he normally wear it all the time? Is it just like.. his "thang" or whatever?
Thorin seems like a real meat n potatas kind of guy u know what i mean chief
No coat no Throrin? xD
hello
Pls where is your coat
Not a huge fan with the added base that the mic adds.
Bass*
Pretty funny how the speed of his talking escalates the longer his videos goes... lol ;)
He's clearly in a hotel room
what payed his heating bill...
Let's be honest. You are just pissed off coz they didn't invited you to Katowice. Nobody is irreplaceable. :D
How can I take an e-sports historian seriously if he's not even wearing a jacket?
well this is adding a new movie on my list of things i need to illegally download eventually
Coat or riot
So basically you're promoting retrospective thought? Great.
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