And as usual, this dude completely ignored every response, explanation, and argument for the hosts position. Every time an assertion was refuted, he just moved on to the next assertion.
@@NotAPacifist825 That's all theist HAVE. Endless claims and assertions, with absolutely nothing to substantiate them, that they think is evidence because they don't understand what evidence actually is.
The Christian caller routine: ask smug question and when given an answer, do not respond to the answer just ask another smug question. No real dialogue. No open mindedness. No ability to listen and learn.
Indeed, it's the prototypical, Christian Theist tactic, especially among laypeople 😂. I'm expressing that assessment as a recent deconvert, following 45 years of being in the faith and having a Master's degree in Biblical Studies from a fundamentalist, theologically orthodox institution. Religious faith, including Christianity, is essentially aspirational, wishful thinking, ultimately rooted in fickle, unreliable intuition and personal experience, rather than empirical evidence and demonstrable facts. That realization is initially saddening, but eventually liberating. Reality doesn't give a rip about my feelings, it's just what it is 😊.
It baffles me that Xians can’t fathom someone not believing in god-magic, as if belief in the supernatural is the default human position. Yet they dismiss the supernatural claims of all other religion without a second thought.
I’m a Christian and I belief theirs truth to “supernatural” in other religions, as to what extent of course I can’t be certain, but the Bible does support this, such as Moses’s staff turning to a snake and the Egyptians, God slaying Aaron’s kids for playing with “strange fire.” The witch of Endor. Sure that might not be mainstream but I’ve met many others that do too. But throughout antiquity it certainly seems like it was the default, almost like the Bible was eluding to that in chapters such as Psalms 82
@@DarkishLink PROVE IT THEN. beliving people was smart 2000 years ago with no educations is a strech by anybody imagenation. the bible ws written by GOATHURDERS. 😂😂😂 most 8 years olds now know better than adults did back then. besides the fact that NOTHING supernaturel had ever been proven true. and when we did learn more along the way it was ALWAYS a naturel explanation
@@DarkishLink and there are snakes today that will turn stiff if u push them a special way behind the head. and when u let go they can move normally again. so u couldnt br more WRONG evrn if u tryed.... and again a purely naturel explantion
@@DarkishLink Define 'supernatural'. Of course other people in other religions believe 'supernatural' things. We've been using the 'supernatural' to describe things that we don't understand or yet have answers to for thousands of years, and people still do that today. It's called the Argument from Ignorance fallacy. Ever seen magic tricks where people make things apparently 'disappear' or turn into other things? They're all over UA-cam. The number of people who believe something has no bearing on whether or not that thing is true.
It's ironic that these guys talk about objective morality. They can commit as many horrible things that a human can do and in the afterlife, they get the same reward as someone who didn't commit any sin. All that's needed is to believe the story that a few day of suffering of a designated scape goat.
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs And all of that does nothing for those who’ve been harmed, which is what gets me. The idea of Christian salvation is very selfish.
@@diogeneslamp8004 When asked whether Hitler and many other nazis at the time went to heaven while Anne Frank did not, the response I've gotten is that it's true. And when asked whether this is right, the response was that Anne had the choice to turn to Jesus. This is the corrupt mindset of these Christians. They don't care how absurd their belief is.
Do you believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation, without God ? If so prove it provide evidence to why you believe that. If you don't believe that just respond to me by telling me you don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God. If that's your position you should have no problem saying that unless you have a bias. PS it's disingenuous for any atheist to ask for evidence for God because atheism is a disbelief in God which means it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God. Even lack of belief equates to unwilling to accept. But even more important than to find meaning of atheism proving that it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God there's an argument based in physical evidence that proves atheism is an unwillingness or inability to accept God. No quality of evidence even if something is proven by the scientific method can convince someone of something they have a disbelief in
Indeed. It’s an unfalsifiable claim. It’s as if they’re asking us to prove unicorns don’t exist. The burden of proof doesn’t lie with the person that’s merely unconvinced, it lies with the claimant. They claim gods exist, so they need to present evidence to that claim.
@@Kimjong-Atheism You must be a bot with a name like that, but, I’ll humor you. You’re redefining terms to more easily argue against a strawman. Atheism is not an “unwillingness” to believe or “accept”, as you put it. It’s merely “not theism”, nothing more, nothing less. I, as an atheist, would love there to be a blissful afterlife and a benevolent god to exist, I would absolutely be willing to accept such a concept, if only it was proven to exist first. It doesn’t even have to be through the scientific method. If this god is omniscient and omnipotent, it should know exactly what it would take to convince me of its existence, but it hasn’t. Without proper evidence, I will remain unconvinced. Belief is not a choice. You’re either convinced of something, or you’re not. We don’t choose “willingly” to not “accept” your specific god, we are merely still waiting for _any_ deity to be proven. Anecdotal testimonies and archaic texts written by bronze age desert folk in a time of little scientific knowledge about the world around them just isn’t enough.
EVERY time one of caller's points is rebutted and knocked down, he moves smoothly to his next bullsh1t point. SAME old talking points for TWENTY YEARS. . LOLZ
Be like NEPy. He claims to have beaten ALL atheists in debates for FIFTY years! His secret? Run away as soon as an atheist says they challenge him. He thinks the first one to run away crying is the winner.😂
He keeps saying "thousands of manuscripts" as if they're complete texts. These are fragments, tons and tons of tiny pieces, not complete works. Most of them are less than half a page. I'm pretty much convinced the caller does not understand this.
Manuscripts are nothing but stories, there being is not proof of what they claim, not one is sourced, verified and corroborated by any known to have existed persons by that same criteria.
Also, they're not originals and they're copies, meaning that they did a good job of copying another manuscript, hence we don't know if they correlate with the original at all.
They should have asked for the dates of these manuscripts. Even 1,000,000 scriptural manuscripts copied by say 10th century monks does not increase the reliability of the scriptures one iota.
Theists can't seem to conceive that someone one doesn't believe in something. They can't conceive in not believing. Always keep in mind the bible was written by people that thought the world was flat.
And somewhere they very easy forget that more than 80% of the current world population doesn't give a damn about their god and yet they can have a very moral life.
@@MrCanis4 . Theists are not just Christians. All theists hate non theists more than other they hate other religions . Why? Because no theists are more threatening to their faith in their belief in their religious story.
Matthew 13:15_ “For the hearts of these people are hardened, and their ears cannot hear, and they have closed their eyes- so their eyes cannot see, and their ears cannot hear, and their hearts cannot understand, and they cannot turn to me and let me heal them.“
@@photographyenthusiast9941 WTH does that mean? If you are not gullible to have faith in the belief of the bible story. You're bad? How many versions of the 10 commandments are there in the bible? How about. Numbers 31:17 That's a harden heart if you ask me. Can't see the 2.0 version of the commandments?
Jim Castleberry spams his assertions without thinking. Not only is not thinking easier for Mad Jim, it’s safer. Thinking too much about the issues is something Mad Jim prefers to avoid!
I don't know what's the deal with the inability of these Christians for basic coherent thinking. I had just posted this: Here's how weak and lazy JEdith's thinking is. He doesn't consider that belief and disbelief presupposes cognition. It's not clear if he's just incapable of higher thought or incapable of being honest. His fallacious thinking would lead you to think that a rock is a virgin. Or that a mountain is a virgin. I am assuming that JEdith doesn't have sex with inanimate objects. For example, his body pillow of his waifu character would not be a virgin. But let's see how long he keeps up this idiocy.
@@Mr_Rouge A female author would certainly have written the stories different. Starting with Adam being created after Eve. In the eternal question of who came first, the chicken or the egg, no one ever answers - the rooster!
@@photographyenthusiast9941 Have you demonstrated, with empirical evidence and objectively verifiable facts, the existence of your "Holy Spirit" and it's purpose as you define it??
The pattern is always the same... get cornered, do one of two things: Start talking over every answer given, and/or completely dodge the topic and ask "where do you get your morals from?" Holy hell, even in 20 years, nothing has changed.
@@tonyclements1147 I'm not whining, you're the one who's whining, lol. Why are you wasting your time wah wah. I'm on here exposing atheism and its humanism proving to people that it's both intellectually and morally repulsive.
@@metatronblack Brother, you’re so right. God does exist. Undoubtedly, under the roof of your skull where he resides and should be protected by all means because once he ascends from these extremely narrow surroundings he’s bound to dissolve in thin air :)
@@InterestsMayVary2234 You’re lucky I have the XL version for dimwits at hand :) If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence because he would be perceived or at the very least be experienced by believers and non believers alike and since that’s clearly not the case it’s safe to say that gods are man made and not the other way around.
Non-Sequitur Hour with the Spamtacular Florida BJ: "Science hasn't fully explained the origin of life, therefore Jesus is the Son of God who rose from the dead in order to rescue believers from Hell and whoever doesn't accept the validity of this inference just wants to sin!"
The atheistic humanist rainbow community wants so badly for the idea of having a brain of a different gender in their body to be true. Do they know anything other than gender faith, I don't think so. Christians created the greatest civilization in the history of mankind which is modern Western civilization. We gave the world almost everything we see in the modern world today from modern science to modern technology to the cell phone to the computer, plain trains automobiles , modern technology, modern science modern medicine . What did atheistic humanism give the world North Korea and the LGBT community
@@Kimjong-Atheism Christians didn’t do as much as you mistakenly believe they did, *every* faith, every civilization has contributed to history. You just want to feel special.
So his god made us with the inability to follow the rules that he made up, and then withholds salvation from the punishment he came up with unless we love him? This is abuser language.
How can a god be strong if it needs my faith for its own existence? Does that not show that gods only exist within your mind? If you are ruled by fear, is that not coercion? Is your faith not vanity? Do you ask "how can it be if not for superstition"? The mystery itself is the doorway to all understanding. When superstition closes the door, then truth and understanding can never be found. We live in a natural world. Not a supernatural one. The existence of something is not evidence of anything other than its existence. The natural world existed long before man created the superstitions. I do not follow gods as I have no need for them. I believe in those things that I am able to observe. I have knowledge of them. How can superstition be knowledge? Is it not a source of contention?
These Theists actually believe that this ‘God’ spoke light into existence by magic. ‘He’ then separated the light from the darkness by speaking it into existence by magic. If they believe that they will believe any ludicrous ridiculous bizarre unbelievable story in their Religious book and they do. 😂🤣😂 BRAINWASHING! is a very powerful thing.
_"These Theists actually believe that this ‘God’ spoke light into existence by magic."_ I know, right?... When everyone knows it's actually Lisa the Rainbow Girage, _leaf be upon her,_ who farted the universe into existence after swallowing all the false gods.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 And ANOTHER assertion/claim with absolutely zero evidence and facts to substantiate it🤣 Like it or not, I think the cause of the universe is UNKNOWN fantasies that do "fit the bill"🤣🤣
@kelvintonblortsmon2457so you admit the bible is false. Humans didnt originate from one woman and man spawned from dirt or ribs. There was no global flood. Additional humans did not continue from 6 people, 4 of whom were immediate blood relatives & one of whom was over 900yrs old. Moses never existed. There were no plagues, hebrew slaves, or mass exodus from Egypt. These alone disprove the entirety of the substance of abrahamic cult lore. There are thousands of years of evidence that disproves biblical claims and proof that many stories were from stolen myths, altered from previously matriarchal religions and cultures. Join reality or keep your fantasy based delusions.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Currently, the evidence for the “beginning” is a singularity. Therefore, the beginner is hot dense mass of…stuff. Thank you, stuff.
Our local troll JEdith, currently using the @JimCastleberry alt brings up the Wistar symposiuhm to claim that PhD mathematicians proved that "natural abiogenesis" is impossible. Of course, he's woefully and ignorantly wrong, and all he's doing is parroting what he's read on some creationist site. The Symposium which was titled, “Mathematical Challenges to the NeoDarwinian Interpretation of Evolution,” but contrary to what creationists think, it did NOT overturn "NeoDarwinian" evolution. The evolution critics were physicists and engineers presenting mathematical models that suggested that random mutation and natural selection doesn't account for the observed complexity of life. And the biologists at the symposium argued that the models presented were too simplistic. And after the symposium, it DID cause scientists to further research population genetics, developmental biology, and the role of neutral mutations in evolution. And there has been MUCH development on the evolutionary model, such as the neutral theory of molecular evolution. In the meanwhile, creationists keep referring to objections presented in 1966 and can't come up with any research that build on the Symposium presentations. These creationists basically think all science stopped at the moment that they have found some objection. Many of them think evolution is just what Darwin laid out in his Origin of Species. The creationists STILL use the same arguments. For example, that the chance of forming a protein 150 amino acids long of a SPECIFIC sequence would be needed to get life going and it forming randomly would be improbabilistic. But this view is completely simplistic and doesn't take into account any selection, AND the assumptions that a SPECIFIC amino acid sequence was NECESSARY to start life is just wrong on its face. Yet, creationists keep mentioning this, ignoring the CONSTANT corrections that scientist provide.
The chance that a infinitive being (god) exists, is infinitely unlikely. If it has no beginning and no end, if it is eternal, than that god, could never created the universe, earth or us, because there would be an infinitive amount of time, BEFORE the creation and as such, it couldn't happen! 😂
What is this "NeoDarwinian Interpretation"? is that something to do with the Matrix? Man, that agent Smith will stop at nothing in the furtherance of Matrixism.
@@amtlpaul It would be nice if these guys had references from this century. This symposium is "only" six decades old. It's like when Damonkey claimed that Goethe's morphology is real science and I asked him to cite ANY research being done on it. And he cited publications from the 1700's. THREE HUNDRED years old???
These throwback calls are incredibly cringeworthy. Before the days of call screeners and the mute button, the early episodes of AXP were flooded with weak arguments and "gotcha" moments. The sheer volume of flawed reasoning and misguided attempts at debate was staggering.
@@dwightfitch3120 Yes, unfortunately. While the nostalgic callers are rare these days, philosophical debaters and presuppositionalists have become a staple on every show. Despite their sophisticated language, their arguments remain just as unfounded and absurd as those from the past.
AXP has been on over 27 Seasons Waiting for Anyone to Present Any Convincing Evidence of Any god or goddess. Yet after 27 Seasons still the same old refuted claims
@@Caphiasas-sf6ct Really? The simplistic reasoning of the kindergarten Christian callers is unbearable. Their arguments are so basic and repetitive-"the book says this, so I believe it, prove me wrong"-that they offer no entertainment value. On the other hand, I find immense satisfaction in listening to callers who regurgitate apologist talking points or use convoluted language. When challenged, they crumble like pie crust. Watching them enter confidently with their prepared script and then scramble when things go off-script is my favorite part.
For me, the worst thing about Christianity is what the caller said Christianity is all about, having all our sins forgiven if we accept Jesus as our savior. What this means is that if Hitler had truly accepted Jesus as his savior, Hitler and I could end up in the same place for all eternity assuming I do the same. Not that I think there’s an afterlife, heaven is real, or Jesus was the son of god, but I can’t be part of any system that would provide a loophole for someone like Hitler to potentially end up in the same place as me. It’s a totally screwed up system that I want no part of and needs to be forgotten as time goes on.
@jaflenbond7854 nothing in your lying screed changes the fact that jesus didn't sacrifice his life if he is an immortal god. He merely had an inconvenient weekend. He's a useless schmuck.
Twist and bend as much as you want, it is impossible to establish one timeline if you consider all four gospels in regards to the resurrection, even if you consider different perspectives. You guys should not have let him move from this topic in the first place
FloJob has made a bunch of posts asking about the origins of the "natural processes",trying to argue that something must have created them. It's the, "look, natural processes, therefore god." The mistake guys like him make is that he thinks that "natural processes" is some force or something tangible that brings order to our universe. He thinks natural processes is prescriptive. No. What we call natural processes are just descriptions that we give to what we see happening. It's not some thing that some deity created.
People who have NO understanding of science will say flat out wrong information that they have NO backing to say. For example, one VERY ignorant theist here constantly posts pseudoscience and wrong science such as: "99% of an organisms phenotypes cannot be accounted for by a fully mapped genome. The missing heritability problem." This is absolutely wrong. And no one can provide a scientific citation to back this up.
An ironic attempt at a taunt from @@damonkenny3444 We all heard the nonsense Spewing out of Damon Kenny Don't ask him for evidence 'Cos he hasn't any!
Such a lack of critical thinking and creativity with this caller and many others like him. And the sad part is that he’s probably a kind person, but his (religious) beliefs keep him from engaging in a conversation or even answering a question honestly. Moreover he and other religious people, subscribe to a system that allows horrendous behavior and even promotes it. Some people will say religion creates togetherness and does good things like charity, but it also supports discrimination, hate and gets rid of responsibility and consequences for actions.
Its a pity the hosts didnt ask the caller if he 'Thou shalt not kill' was a moral absolute. My guess he would say it is but if asked then should the Death Penalty be outlawed, Gun ownership outlawed and the US military disbanded he would change his tune.
The BATTLE to the DEATH on planet EARTH is still ATHEISTS and CHRISTIANS versus The CREATOR, the MOST HIGH and SOVEREIGN GOD Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who unitedly trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false claims that - 1. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales 2. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign GOD will definitely bring themselves and their own families and neighbors nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame and ETERNAL DEATHS while lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and honor Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@joshsheridan9511 Who are the HATERS and MOCKERS of the CREATOR and the BIBLE on earth? ANSWER - Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who unitedly trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false claims that - 1. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales 2. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD are clearly the LIARS and cruel, merciless, and deceitful HATERS and MOCKERS of the Creator and the Bible who obviously don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings.... unbothered and just don't care even if their arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" offend, hurt, insult, dishonor, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS.
@@jaflenbond7854 nothing in your lying screed changes the fact that jesus didn't sacrifice his life if he is an immortal god. He merely had an inconvenient weekend. He's a useless schmuck.
"I have the moral high ground because my invisible friend says so". Isn't that SO much easier than finding our way through the messy nature of some moral dilemmas and quandaries?
Basing your entire view of existence on 1st/2nd century accounts, written decades (at least,) after the events they're writing about, by authors who we're not altogether sure of, is not rational. Even more so, to arbitrarily break it all up into verses, and then pluck those verses when it's convenient to make some theological point, based on "the word of God," is even more irrational. They'd be better off to say they don't care if the accounts are accurate or not, they're going to consider it the word of a god anyway.
superstition - noun 1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition 2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary Merriam-Webster
Great job guys. Right on the money. The caller was full of hard assertions that all had gaping holes. He is what i call a premature concluder in his willingness to believe things while ignoring further logic that concludes more accurately. Being correct is less important to him than stubbornly claiming to be correct.
Why does the Spamtacular Florida BJ insist that there has to be a 'very first thing', other than that he is simply accustomed to thinking that way and never thought to question it?
What's puzzling is that so many WANT it to be true far more than most seem to care IF it is. The benefit people derive from their religion does NOT rely on the claims to be demonstrably true, but their level of perceived benefit is directly proportional to their level of acceptance THAT it is true...therefore the apologist (and regular required reinforcement). This seems to hold for every religion - each claiming the other is wrong, each with their own handy set of justifications. Obvious result: MOST (and easily ALL) that are totally convinced - are in fact WRONG.
“Manuscripts are 98 % accurate” Ummmm... not sure who that guy had been listening to, that is utter BS. There are literally hundreds of thousands of discrepancies between the thousands of different manuscripts that they have. He was either lying his butt off or parroting lies from someone else.
@@DJ-Synth "The Story of Jesus IS His-Story!" If my story was as far fetched as Jesus' - I would not exist. The whole Jesus schtick is based on a special pleading fallacy. He is fictional. Get over it.
"The manuscripts 100% non-contradictory.... except for a very few differences" How can a person manage to say something like this out loud and not IMMEDIATELY see the contradiction. Do they even understand what a contradiction is??😂
One of FloJob's nonsensical argument for god is that only X can produce X. And to show that absurdity, i said only evil can produce evil, so god must be evil. And to mock mocking HIM, he said: ""Hmmm, I thought God didn’t exist, so how can He be evil????" So he's saying that god doesn't exist. And because he got caught admitting that his god doesn't exist, he deleted that comment!😂😂😂 Womp, womp.
@@Tuna_Man2323He was SO proud of his argument about how I could say god is evil if God didn't exist.😂 Because he couldn't grasp the concept that we can call fictional things evil all the time. If I say that Thanos is evil, I'm not saying Thanos exists.😂
@mariomiceli9663 What's wrong with respecting people and addressing them as the gender that they present? Or do you go and check and make sure that their gender matches their biological sex? If so, are you a registered SA in all US states?
@mariomiceli9663 So if someone wants you to address them as a woman, you will. So what's your problem? If they want you to refer to them as she/her when talking about them in the 3rd person, you agree that you will. If you are not obsessed with making sure that their biological sex matches their gender, then there are no issues.
"how do you figure out what is right and wrong" - First off, there is no such thing. People DECIDE that based on what makes society work better, even if sometimes it takes them a long time to figure things out, like slavery, since they were horribly confused by YOUR BIBLE in the first place; If you don't want "other people doing bad things to you", then logically "you don't do bad things to other people", and if you are too stupid or your brain is not in line with that, then OTHER PEOPLE will deal with you when they realize that your behavior of "I should just be able to do what I want to anyone else" means that eventually they will be the target of harm. If you need a "holy book" to figure this out for you, then you are probably one of the people the rest of us need protection from.
Cutting someones arm off, is generally seen as wrong. Cutting somes arm off, because an infection in it would surely kill that person, is seen as right. Cutting somes arm of, because an infection will kill them, while there is access to a medicine that will cure the infection, is seen as wrong. Morality is situational. It just is. Even if you believe that your god knows best, you would need access to that gods thought about every specific situation. Without that, you are just making stuff up, like everyone else. The difference is, we know it and take the responsibility, we aren't claiming that "god" commands it.
The BATTLE to the DEATH on planet EARTH is still ATHEISTS and CHRISTIANS versus The CREATOR, the MOST HIGH and SOVEREIGN GOD Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who unitedly trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false claims that - 1. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales 2. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign GOD will definitely bring themselves and their own families and neighbors nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame and ETERNAL DEATHS while lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and honor Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@jaflenbond7854 nothing in your lying screed changes the fact that jesus didn't sacrifice his life if he is an immortal god. He merely had an inconvenient weekend. He's a useless schmuck.
What's the liklihood that Damonkey will show up to my stream, despite saying that he would come on and wipe the floor with me? I have a new poll on that question on my Community page.😂
Great conversation! And it shouldn't be surprising that the main topics are the same because Christianity has not changed in terms of the basic beliefs of the various denominations and sects.
@@tpseeker3367sure anybody can claim to be a Christian and say whatever they want. For example you can get members of the lgbtq community who are atheistic humanist and claim to be Christians maybe even become priests and homosexuality rape little boys that doesn't mean it has anything to do with Christianity. Christianity calls that an abomination. Speaking of which you think you can keep the members of your community out of the church. Tell them to leave little boys alone. I know humanism teaches that this is an objectively immoral but it is
@@tonyclements1147 You're just triggered by the truth. Talk about not getting offline you've been on these threads for atheist experience for years, year after year you're here, I could leave for 6 months or a year and come back and you'll still be online. What's the matter are you triggered that I proven what atheism actually is . And you prefer being in your echo chamber
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 “You either have a good argument/explanation or you don't and you don't. Prove me wrong?" It's telling that you don't mention evidence. Given that you have neither the evidence nor the logic it's no wonder you keep using logical fallacies. By your standard you are a purple space penguin. This is proven because all purple space penguins lie about what they know and are incapable of being logical. Since you always lie about what you know and are incapable of being logical, you therefore are a Purple Space Penguin unless and until you prove otherwise because both my argument and explanation are irrefutable.
@@albaniahenry-franklin2829 He has this imaginary atheist living in his head. It's made completely out of straw. And that strawman says that humans came from soup, from mud puddles, maybe even out of his backside. And NEPy can always beat that strawman in his head. And then he tells himself that he beat the bad ol' atheists for FIFTY years straight! In the meanwhile, he's still running from talking to real atheists that don't live rent-free in his head.
The problem is there are very obvious discrepancies in the accounts of the resurrection. I've seen people try to explain that away by saying it's different viewpoints/timelines, but that's like saying the Chiefs didn't win Superbowl 57 because I didn't watch the last 10 minutes so I have a different viewpoint.
Hey ya’ll check this out… Look at what FloJob posted: "Hmmm, I thought God didn’t exist, so how can He be evil????" That's right! He solved the problem of evil that's been plaguing theists. It turns out the answer was simple! God doesn't exist! According to FloJob. That'll do FloJob, that'll do.🤣
Must be something in the water Florida drinks. You can see it in every post he's had. Must be something in the water he drinks. Cause why else would a woman want to treat his gh0d so bad?
How much research has he done in Muhammad riding to heaven on a winged horse? I would guess the he is fine with not believing it really happened without researching it extensively as he wants the hosts to do on his favorite story.
How long will theists ask the same things, claim the same things and argue the same arguments, before they realize they are repeating themselves.. when can we move on?
Another local troll, this time A pot currently using a day old alt @Kimjong-Atheism, believes that it's supernatural to believe that "the origins of Life popped into existence because of a non intelligent occurrence." To him, NOT involving his god is "supernatural". 😂 It makes me wonder if he has to pray everytime he has a bowel movement so that he doesn't create a supernatural 💩.
Tried to respond to your comment on Jim yet all the sudden 🗯 gone (edit) This one: Queue Cee replied: "TP Seeker He seems to know a lot. But he also says that the speed of light squared is always 5. So knowing a LOT of wrong things isn't the best.😂😂"
How do I know my atheism is true? If you meet the definition of atheism, your atheism is true. Might as well ask how do you know not collecting stamps is true? Just another ridiculous attempt at a Tu Quoque fallacy. It is not even wrong.
@@damonkenny3444 Hey, it's the "man" of the hour, the absent Aussie from down under. Much further down under. Parts unknown. Where they speak differently and have different time zones. Yeah, that part of down under. Psych.
Easy! There are no God's because I've never seen any 😎 Oh, and atheism gets me out of doing boring AF God ritual activities like worship and prayer 😊 And a good Sunday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️
@@RickLambert963 Found the Spirit of Truth rune stone in the far southwest corner of the Dragon's Grove. Loc: neg 588.27, pos 142.57, neg 12.29 Dawgar = The Known Earth.[1] Gorgog = King Gog.[2] Goria = Throne of the King.[2] The EverQuest Team
@@RickLambert963 Boasting global markets of over US$150 billion for video games [1] and over US$7 billion for board games [2], the game industry represents a major entertainment market. Indeed, the video and board game industries offer a wide range of games that are usable in various domains. The growing popularity of games markets has led to an increasing amount of research on how game practice affects human behavior and cognitive functions. A common method of carrying out such research is to compare players’ and nonplayers’ abilities. Therefore, recent studies have mainly shown that players demonstrate better cognitive performance than non-players do [3, 4]. Until now, players have generally been defined according to an overall minimum play time or to a minimum game genre-specific play time. However, player profiles are numerous and represent a wide diversity of playing practices. Moreover, a primary limitation of such research involves the lack of consideration of variability in the players’ play time and the type of game they play. Therefore, it remains unclear whether the cognitive benefits of play are due to overall play time or to specific game types. 💪
Anyone answer this question for me. Why is it that because science can't answer a question about the cosmos RIGHT NOW that means science is wrong and God is the answer? Why do you believe that science and learning and discovery are not on going and that we are not answering questions continually? You KNOW we are learning constantly. How do you not see how pathetically small it is to ask a cosmological question and scream God is the answer when we simply haven't gotten far enough to answer it? That isn't an argument.
Who are the HATERS and MOCKERS of the CREATOR and the BIBLE on earth? ANSWER - Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions who unitedly trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false claims that - 1. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales 2. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD are clearly the LIARS and cruel, merciless, and deceitful HATERS and MOCKERS of the Creator and the Bible who obviously don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings.... unbothered and just don't care even if their arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, LIES and false teachings and doctrines about "hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" offend, hurt, insult, dishonor, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS . What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST to human beings? ANSWER - The BIBLE is the "WORD of GOD" and source of the TRUTHS that - 1. lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father in obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3 and honor Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18 will definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. 2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26 are the guarantee that loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@jaflenbond7854 nothing in your lying screed changes the fact that jesus didn't sacrifice his life if he is an immortal god. He merely had an inconvenient weekend. He's a useless schmuck.
WHEN things are the same on all 4 gospel stories: MUST have happened; four different people say the same thing. WHEN things are conflicting in the 4 stories: the are 4 different PERSPECTIVES; you can't expect them to say the same thing over and over. . Meanwhile, Matthew and Luke COPIED from Mark. They all copied. LOLZ
It would not be the case that Matthew copied from Luke AND Luke copied from Matthew. The prevailing thought is that both Matthew and Luke had access to Mark and copied from it independently. The other hypothesis is that there's an alternate source, Q, that both Matthew and Luke copied from.
"Manuscripts" as evidence of accuracy is identical to claiming the more Xerox copies, the truer what is written becomes. Instead, all it does is possibly establish that what we have is as originally written; nothing about the validity of what was originally written.
2 Timothy 2:23-26 As a servant of the Lord, you must not argue. You must be kind to everyone. You must be a good teacher, and you must be patient. You must gently teach those who don't agree with you.🤐🤣
2 Timothy is pseudepigraphical. It wasn't actually written by Paul, who was an idiot anyway, but by one of the other idiots in the early church, after Paul had died, attempting to use Paul's authority to strengthen their edicts.
The moment I hear that from someone who can explain how they manage, as a matter of principle, to believe everything they haven't disproved, I will take it seriously.
Religion is only about money and power: Christians say: “Believe in my God, listen to what I say, do what I tell you to do, never question me, love who I tell you to love and hate who I tell you to hate. Give me your money."
@jonclark8252 He posted on the comments, of the video where he failed to show up to confront me, that I am terrified of HIM. How does that make sense? In Damonkey land, where he's an "astutely well read and educated" person it apparently makes sense. In that fantasy land, he showed up to the live stream and and mopped the floor with me by referring to a 1944 book by Schroedinger as a citation to a genetic problem that was reported in 2008. And in that fantasy land, everything he posts makes sense.😂
The caller ended and concluded with the statement that nobody can be or remain sinless, therefore God made a way for us to be forgiven and saved from our inevitable and ongoing sins. Okay, that may be good and fine, but what we need an answer for now is WHY did God create evil in the first place (sin) and then give "free will" to man and woman so that they would have to choose between the two - good and evil (sin). Seems to me that it was pre-planned that way so humans would be forced to ask for forgiveness from the sinful nature God had created us with in the beginning - that or else be cast into hell. WOW. Am I getting this right? And finally, WHY would have an omnipotent and all powerful God NEEDED to arrange this kind of set up? I'm shaking my head over here.
Wait, the Spamming Florida BJ just said, "I thought God didnt exist"! Did you, Spamming Florida BJ? Well, thanks for confessing that! Busted by his own words!
"What has atheism ever done for you?" "Well, it's nice to not have to fear going to hell." "You're just using atheism as an excuse to not live under gods rules!"
Xtians: Just ADD THE SH1T up in all the 4 gospels and then CLAIM they were only giving partial accounts. IF one says 1 man and the second says 2 man 3 women and the third says 3 men 2 angels and the fourth says 3 men 4 guards ... Just ADD THAT SH1T up and claim there were 3 men 2 women 2 angels and 4 guards. LOLZ
Stealing is absolutely wrong, but I got to decide what is qualified as stealing. God's words is abosolute, but I got to decide what God said. Classic Christian reasoning
what amazes me is this clip is maybe 20 years old and we are still hearing such nonsense claims about the bible today
As long as man fears death religion will persist
And as usual, this dude completely ignored every response, explanation, and argument for the hosts position. Every time an assertion was refuted, he just moved on to the next assertion.
Because religion never evolves. It's a dead closed system supported by dead closed minds.
@@tbass94
Religion causes that fear and then pretends to cure it.
@@NotAPacifist825 That's all theist HAVE. Endless claims and assertions, with absolutely nothing to substantiate them, that they think is evidence because they don't understand what evidence actually is.
The Christian caller routine: ask smug question and when given an answer, do not respond to the answer just ask another smug question. No real dialogue. No open mindedness. No ability to listen and learn.
Indeed, it's the prototypical, Christian Theist tactic, especially among laypeople 😂. I'm expressing that assessment as a recent deconvert, following 45 years of being in the faith and having a Master's degree in Biblical Studies from a fundamentalist, theologically orthodox institution. Religious faith, including Christianity, is essentially aspirational, wishful thinking, ultimately rooted in fickle, unreliable intuition and personal experience, rather than empirical evidence and demonstrable facts. That realization is initially saddening, but eventually liberating. Reality doesn't give a rip about my feelings, it's just what it is 😊.
they don't learn
It baffles me that Xians can’t fathom someone not believing in god-magic, as if belief in the supernatural is the default human position. Yet they dismiss the supernatural claims of all other religion without a second thought.
Brainwashing at its finest
I’m a Christian and I belief theirs truth to “supernatural” in other religions, as to what extent of course I can’t be certain, but the Bible does support this, such as Moses’s staff turning to a snake and the Egyptians, God slaying Aaron’s kids for playing with “strange fire.” The witch of Endor.
Sure that might not be mainstream but I’ve met many others that do too. But throughout antiquity it certainly seems like it was the default, almost like the Bible was eluding to that in chapters such as Psalms 82
@@DarkishLink PROVE IT THEN.
beliving people was smart 2000 years ago with no educations is a strech by anybody imagenation.
the bible ws written by GOATHURDERS.
😂😂😂
most 8 years olds now know better than adults did back then.
besides the fact that NOTHING supernaturel had ever been proven true.
and when we did learn more along the way it was ALWAYS a naturel explanation
@@DarkishLink and there are snakes today that will turn stiff if u push them a special way behind the head.
and when u let go they can move normally again.
so u couldnt br more WRONG evrn if u tryed....
and again a purely naturel explantion
@@DarkishLink
Define 'supernatural'.
Of course other people in other religions believe 'supernatural' things.
We've been using the 'supernatural' to describe things that we don't understand or yet have answers to for thousands of years, and people still do that today. It's called the Argument from Ignorance fallacy.
Ever seen magic tricks where people make things apparently 'disappear' or turn into other things? They're all over UA-cam.
The number of people who believe something has no bearing on whether or not that thing is true.
So according to the caller, Christianity is an excuse to do what you like because you have a get out of hell free card.
That, and he's unable to think about morality on his own and needs everything spoonfed to him like a little baby
Not real Christianity if it's true but it's probably not
@@kelseykjarsgaard5774 not real Christianity, and which of the 45,000 denominations would be the real Christianity?
I don't believe in YOUR god just as you don't believe in that OTHER god.
@@georgeaguilar6996
I don't believe you.
@@suffist I don't believe neither of you. 🤣
@@MrCanis4
Well, one of us has to be telling the truth. I agree with the OP.
@@georgeaguilar6996and that doesn't make sense. Do better.
I don't believe it's not butter!
He just wanted to preach the gospel. They should have shut that crap down instantly.
That and kept trying to shift the burden of proof.
Whole callers idea of morality is a “get out of jail free” card. As long as he believes in Jesus he can do anything without any accountability.
And that faith does absolutely nothing for the sinned against. Christianity is incredibly selfish.
It's ironic that these guys talk about objective morality. They can commit as many horrible things that a human can do and in the afterlife, they get the same reward as someone who didn't commit any sin. All that's needed is to believe the story that a few day of suffering of a designated scape goat.
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs
And all of that does nothing for those who’ve been harmed, which is what gets me. The idea of Christian salvation is very selfish.
@@diogeneslamp8004 When asked whether Hitler and many other nazis at the time went to heaven while Anne Frank did not, the response I've gotten is that it's true. And when asked whether this is right, the response was that Anne had the choice to turn to Jesus.
This is the corrupt mindset of these Christians. They don't care how absurd their belief is.
That's all christianity has ever been, a cop out for the morally corrupt.
The account of Pauls death states that milk spurts from his neck instead of blood and this man's conclusion is yep 100 % historical truth.
Are you okay??? He was Beheaded!!!!
"Prove there is no god" No!
The fact that I have to prove it's not there says it all, really! I can no more prove the invisible man doesn't exist.
Do you believe the origins of Life came into existence without creation, without God ? If so prove it provide evidence to why you believe that.
If you don't believe that just respond to me by telling me you don't believe the origins of Life came into existence without God. If that's your position you should have no problem saying that unless you have a bias.
PS it's disingenuous for any atheist to ask for evidence for God because atheism is a disbelief in God which means it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God. Even lack of belief equates to unwilling to accept.
But even more important than to find meaning of atheism proving that it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God there's an argument based in physical evidence that proves atheism is an unwillingness or inability to accept God.
No quality of evidence even if something is proven by the scientific method can convince someone of something they have a disbelief in
Go look up “abiogenesis” and read through that, _then_ come back here. The topic is too difficult to explain in a UA-cam message thread.
Indeed. It’s an unfalsifiable claim. It’s as if they’re asking us to prove unicorns don’t exist. The burden of proof doesn’t lie with the person that’s merely unconvinced, it lies with the claimant. They claim gods exist, so they need to present evidence to that claim.
@@Kimjong-Atheism You must be a bot with a name like that, but, I’ll humor you. You’re redefining terms to more easily argue against a strawman. Atheism is not an “unwillingness” to believe or “accept”, as you put it. It’s merely “not theism”, nothing more, nothing less. I, as an atheist, would love there to be a blissful afterlife and a benevolent god to exist, I would absolutely be willing to accept such a concept, if only it was proven to exist first. It doesn’t even have to be through the scientific method. If this god is omniscient and omnipotent, it should know exactly what it would take to convince me of its existence, but it hasn’t. Without proper evidence, I will remain unconvinced. Belief is not a choice. You’re either convinced of something, or you’re not. We don’t choose “willingly” to not “accept” your specific god, we are merely still waiting for _any_ deity to be proven. Anecdotal testimonies and archaic texts written by bronze age desert folk in a time of little scientific knowledge about the world around them just isn’t enough.
@@Kimjong-Atheism
What a load of nonsense.
EVERY time one of caller's points is rebutted and knocked down, he moves smoothly to his next bullsh1t point.
SAME old talking points for TWENTY YEARS.
.
LOLZ
Be like NEPy. He claims to have beaten ALL atheists in debates for FIFTY years!
His secret? Run away as soon as an atheist says they challenge him. He thinks the first one to run away crying is the winner.😂
Same talking points for two thousand years.
Always with the fallacies, these theists. It never fails.
He keeps saying "thousands of manuscripts" as if they're complete texts. These are fragments, tons and tons of tiny pieces, not complete works. Most of them are less than half a page. I'm pretty much convinced the caller does not understand this.
Manuscripts are nothing but stories, there being is not proof of what they claim, not one is sourced, verified and corroborated by any known to have existed persons by that same criteria.
Also, they're not originals and they're copies, meaning that they did a good job of copying another manuscript, hence we don't know if they correlate with the original at all.
They should have asked for the dates of these manuscripts. Even 1,000,000 scriptural manuscripts copied by say 10th century monks does not increase the reliability of the scriptures one iota.
Parroting inane slogans betrays a lack of understanding.
This dude calling in doesn't just move the goalposts, he's got them mounted on the back of a Ferrari!
The goal post is strapped to a fkn rocket hurtling away at mach 10
Theists can't seem to conceive that someone one doesn't believe in something. They can't conceive in not believing. Always keep in mind the bible was written by people that thought the world was flat.
And somewhere they very easy forget that more than 80% of the current world population doesn't give a damn about their god and yet they can have a very moral life.
@@MrCanis4 . Theists are not just Christians. All theists hate non theists more than other they hate other religions . Why? Because no theists are more threatening to their faith in their belief in their religious story.
Matthew 13:15_
“For the hearts of these people are hardened,
and their ears cannot hear,
and they have closed their eyes- so their eyes cannot see,
and their ears cannot hear, and their hearts cannot understand, and they cannot turn to me and let me heal them.“
@@photographyenthusiast9941 meh
@@photographyenthusiast9941 WTH does that mean? If you are not gullible to have faith in the belief of the bible story. You're bad? How many versions of the 10 commandments are there in the bible? How about. Numbers 31:17 That's a harden heart if you ask me. Can't see the 2.0 version of the commandments?
Jim Castleberry spams his assertions without thinking. Not only is not thinking easier for Mad Jim, it’s safer. Thinking too much about the issues is something Mad Jim prefers to avoid!
I don't know what's the deal with the inability of these Christians for basic coherent thinking. I had just posted this:
Here's how weak and lazy JEdith's thinking is. He doesn't consider that belief and disbelief presupposes cognition. It's not clear if he's just incapable of higher thought or incapable of being honest.
His fallacious thinking would lead you to think that a rock is a virgin. Or that a mountain is a virgin. I am assuming that JEdith doesn't have sex with inanimate objects. For example, his body pillow of his waifu character would not be a virgin.
But let's see how long he keeps up this idiocy.
Man wrote the Bible
👌
And if women wrote the bible, it probably wouldn't be so full of bs. 😜
@@Mr_RougeThat depends on a myriad of factors that have accumulated over the millenia.
@@Mr_Rouge A female author would certainly have written the stories different. Starting with Adam being created after Eve. In the eternal question of who came first, the chicken or the egg, no one ever answers - the rooster!
Apparently you are unaware of the existence and purpose of the Holy Spirit,
or of prophetic, divine revelation.
@@photographyenthusiast9941 Have you demonstrated, with empirical evidence and objectively verifiable facts, the existence of your "Holy Spirit" and it's purpose as you define it??
The pattern is always the same... get cornered, do one of two things: Start talking over every answer given, and/or completely dodge the topic and ask "where do you get your morals from?" Holy hell, even in 20 years, nothing has changed.
"Well the bible says..."
And I don't care what it says.
Well, the atheist humanist rainbow community says.
And I don't care what it says
@@Kimjong-Atheism
Then why are you wasting your time then, you obviously do care or you wouldn’t be whining.
@@tonyclements1147 I'm not whining, you're the one who's whining, lol.
Why are you wasting your time wah wah.
I'm on here exposing atheism and its humanism proving to people that it's both intellectually and morally repulsive.
@@georgeaguilar6996
Yet you’re still here..🙄
@@georgeaguilar6996
You’re here to whine, lie, post verses, make ridiculous comments and argue.
If god existed, there would be no need to prove his existence
Sure there is , because you claim it , and try to change laws to those views of that god.
@@metatronblack Brother, you’re so right. God does exist. Undoubtedly, under the roof of your skull where he resides and should be protected by all means because once he ascends from these extremely narrow surroundings he’s bound to dissolve in thin air :)
@@walterdaems57Prove it.
@@InterestsMayVary2234 You’re lucky I have the XL version for dimwits at hand :)
If god existed there would be no need to prove his existence because he would be perceived or at the very least be experienced by believers and non believers alike and since that’s clearly not the case it’s safe to say that gods are man made and not the other way around.
Non-Sequitur Hour with the Spamtacular Florida BJ: "Science hasn't fully explained the origin of life, therefore Jesus is the Son of God who rose from the dead in order to rescue believers from Hell and whoever doesn't accept the validity of this inference just wants to sin!"
Well duh!
Poor logic.
This caller as soon as he didn’t have an answer to good questions he went on the attack and that’s what ignorant people do
The caller wants so badly to be true and therefore the bibel is true. Do the caller know anything else than the bible? I don't think so.
The atheistic humanist rainbow community wants so badly for the idea of having a brain of a different gender in their body to be true. Do they know anything other than gender faith, I don't think so.
Christians created the greatest civilization in the history of mankind which is modern Western civilization. We gave the world almost everything we see in the modern world today from modern science to modern technology to the cell phone to the computer, plain trains automobiles , modern technology, modern science modern medicine .
What did atheistic humanism give the world North Korea and the LGBT community
@@Kimjong-Atheism
Christians didn’t do as much as you mistakenly believe they did, *every* faith, every civilization has contributed to history. You just want to feel special.
@@georgeaguilar6996
The Bible is no more factual than the Lord of the Rings, those books at least entertain people.
@@georgeaguilar6996
🙄
@@tonyclements1147 the idea atheist humanist Rachel Levine is a woman is as real as Lord of the rings
Of the thousands of gods, his is the one, true god. He knows this because Mommy and Daddy told him.
So his god made us with the inability to follow the rules that he made up, and then withholds salvation from the punishment he came up with unless we love him? This is abuser language.
How can a god be strong if it needs my faith for its own existence?
Does that not show that gods only exist within your mind?
If you are ruled by fear, is that not coercion? Is your faith not vanity?
Do you ask "how can it be if not for superstition"?
The mystery itself is the doorway to all understanding. When superstition closes the door, then truth and understanding can never be found.
We live in a natural world. Not a supernatural one. The existence of something is not evidence of anything other than its existence. The natural world existed long before man created the superstitions.
I do not follow gods as I have no need for them. I believe in those things that I am able to observe. I have knowledge of them. How can superstition be knowledge? Is it not a source of contention?
@@georgeaguilar6996 it is a faith based belief.
@@georgeaguilar6996god doesn't exist no matter how hard you believe it to
"Perfect" copies of bullshit is still bullshit
FACTS🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Smartest person that holds the highest sincere degree of reality
You turned that guy into a pretzel.
These Theists actually believe that this ‘God’ spoke light into existence by magic. ‘He’ then separated the light from the darkness by speaking it into existence by magic. If they believe that they will believe any ludicrous ridiculous bizarre unbelievable story in their Religious book and they do. 😂🤣😂 BRAINWASHING! is a very powerful thing.
_"These Theists actually believe that this ‘God’ spoke light into existence by magic."_
I know, right?... When everyone knows it's actually Lisa the Rainbow Girage, _leaf be upon her,_ who farted the universe into existence after swallowing all the false gods.
How do I know there's no tooth fairy, Easter bunny, leprechauns or Santa Claus?
Hold on....f*cking leprechauns ain't REAL!? "Father Christmas" too??😭
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 And ANOTHER assertion/claim with absolutely zero evidence and facts to substantiate it🤣
Like it or not, I think the cause of the universe is UNKNOWN fantasies that do "fit the bill"🤣🤣
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 no there isn't and you've got no excuse to not know that. Grow up.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457so you admit the bible is false. Humans didnt originate from one woman and man spawned from dirt or ribs. There was no global flood. Additional humans did not continue from 6 people, 4 of whom were immediate blood relatives & one of whom was over 900yrs old. Moses never existed. There were no plagues, hebrew slaves, or mass exodus from Egypt. These alone disprove the entirety of the substance of abrahamic cult lore. There are thousands of years of evidence that disproves biblical claims and proof that many stories were from stolen myths, altered from previously matriarchal religions and cultures. Join reality or keep your fantasy based delusions.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 Currently, the evidence for the “beginning” is a singularity. Therefore, the beginner is hot dense mass of…stuff. Thank you, stuff.
Our local troll JEdith, currently using the @JimCastleberry alt brings up the Wistar symposiuhm to claim that PhD mathematicians proved that "natural abiogenesis" is impossible. Of course, he's woefully and ignorantly wrong, and all he's doing is parroting what he's read on some creationist site.
The Symposium which was titled, “Mathematical Challenges to the NeoDarwinian Interpretation of Evolution,” but contrary to what creationists think, it did NOT overturn "NeoDarwinian" evolution.
The evolution critics were physicists and engineers presenting mathematical models that suggested that random mutation and natural selection doesn't account for the observed complexity of life. And the biologists at the symposium argued that the models presented were too simplistic. And after the symposium, it DID cause scientists to further research population genetics, developmental biology, and the role of neutral mutations in evolution.
And there has been MUCH development on the evolutionary model, such as the neutral theory of molecular evolution. In the meanwhile, creationists keep referring to objections presented in 1966 and can't come up with any research that build on the Symposium presentations. These creationists basically think all science stopped at the moment that they have found some objection. Many of them think evolution is just what Darwin laid out in his Origin of Species.
The creationists STILL use the same arguments. For example, that the chance of forming a protein 150 amino acids long of a SPECIFIC sequence would be needed to get life going and it forming randomly would be improbabilistic. But this view is completely simplistic and doesn't take into account any selection, AND the assumptions that a SPECIFIC amino acid sequence was NECESSARY to start life is just wrong on its face. Yet, creationists keep mentioning this, ignoring the CONSTANT corrections that scientist provide.
Regurgitating old talking points may be silly, but it is easier than thinking!
The chance that a infinitive being (god) exists, is infinitely unlikely.
If it has no beginning and no end, if it is eternal, than that god, could never created the universe, earth or us, because there would be an infinitive amount of time, BEFORE the creation and as such, it couldn't happen!
😂
What is this "NeoDarwinian Interpretation"? is that something to do with the Matrix? Man, that agent Smith will stop at nothing in the furtherance of Matrixism.
@@amtlpaul It would be nice if these guys had references from this century. This symposium is "only" six decades old.
It's like when Damonkey claimed that Goethe's morphology is real science and I asked him to cite ANY research being done on it. And he cited publications from the 1700's. THREE HUNDRED years old???
A Creationist misrepresenting old data? Surely not 😮😮
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much prefer these old show clips
These throwback calls are incredibly cringeworthy. Before the days of call screeners and the mute button, the early episodes of AXP were flooded with weak arguments and "gotcha" moments. The sheer volume of flawed reasoning and misguided attempts at debate was staggering.
i prefer them , much more entertaining than current shows
And of course that continues today
@@dwightfitch3120 Yes, unfortunately. While the nostalgic callers are rare these days, philosophical debaters and presuppositionalists have become a staple on every show. Despite their sophisticated language, their arguments remain just as unfounded and absurd as those from the past.
AXP has been on over 27 Seasons Waiting for Anyone to Present Any Convincing Evidence of Any god or goddess. Yet after 27 Seasons still the same old refuted claims
@@Caphiasas-sf6ct Really? The simplistic reasoning of the kindergarten Christian callers is unbearable. Their arguments are so basic and repetitive-"the book says this, so I believe it, prove me wrong"-that they offer no entertainment value. On the other hand, I find immense satisfaction in listening to callers who regurgitate apologist talking points or use convoluted language. When challenged, they crumble like pie crust. Watching them enter confidently with their prepared script and then scramble when things go off-script is my favorite part.
What a man. Wouldn't even protect his wife 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah, but my book says not to.
They absolutely roasted him with the moral absolute argument
For me, the worst thing about Christianity is what the caller said Christianity is all about, having all our sins forgiven if we accept Jesus as our savior. What this means is that if Hitler had truly accepted Jesus as his savior, Hitler and I could end up in the same place for all eternity assuming I do the same. Not that I think there’s an afterlife, heaven is real, or Jesus was the son of god, but I can’t be part of any system that would provide a loophole for someone like Hitler to potentially end up in the same place as me. It’s a totally screwed up system that I want no part of and needs to be forgotten as time goes on.
@jaflenbond7854 nothing in your lying screed changes the fact that jesus didn't sacrifice his life if he is an immortal god. He merely had an inconvenient weekend. He's a useless schmuck.
@@jaflenbond7854 Megalania😇
@@jaflenbond7854 P L E A S E take your foolishness elsewhere! Thank you kindly!
King Leopold was a Christian
Twist and bend as much as you want, it is impossible to establish one timeline if you consider all four gospels in regards to the resurrection, even if you consider different perspectives. You guys should not have let him move from this topic in the first place
The “manuscripts” arguments is so weird to me. We’re saying if a document is copied then it becomes more correct as more copies are produced?
This is an incredible clip for being so old as it is. Cooperation is a competitive behavior!
FloJob has made a bunch of posts asking about the origins of the "natural processes",trying to argue that something must have created them.
It's the, "look, natural processes, therefore god."
The mistake guys like him make is that he thinks that "natural processes" is some force or something tangible that brings order to our universe. He thinks natural processes is prescriptive.
No. What we call natural processes are just descriptions that we give to what we see happening. It's not some thing that some deity created.
I'm still alive 🤧 can you send me link for 2days chat🤧
People who have NO understanding of science will say flat out wrong information that they have NO backing to say. For example, one VERY ignorant theist here constantly posts pseudoscience and wrong science such as:
"99% of an organisms phenotypes cannot be accounted for by a fully mapped genome. The missing heritability problem."
This is absolutely wrong. And no one can provide a scientific citation to back this up.
Go ahead, and show it’s wrong science denier.
You twiggered? Got any “evidence” to suppport your “debunking”?
@@damonkenny3444
The wonderful thing about Twiggers
Is that I'm the only one!
@@amtlpaul Got that scientific “evidence” yet to “debunk”?
An ironic attempt at a taunt from @@damonkenny3444
We all heard the nonsense
Spewing out of Damon Kenny
Don't ask him for evidence
'Cos he hasn't any!
All he wanted to do was preach which is why he wanted to push past the stealing moral question
He was preaching like he was Madonna's papa.
[Edit: It's possible that Cyndi Lauper's papa also preached at her.]😅
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs Did you mean Madonna's papa?...
@@Mr_Rouge
Perhaps he just wanted to have fun?
@@Mr_RougeOops. I got it wrong. 😅 Please don't preach.
Thousands of copies backing up the thing they're copying? You don't fuckin say.
Such a lack of critical thinking and creativity with this caller and many others like him. And the sad part is that he’s probably a kind person, but his (religious) beliefs keep him from engaging in a conversation or even answering a question honestly. Moreover he and other religious people, subscribe to a system that allows horrendous behavior and even promotes it. Some people will say religion creates togetherness and does good things like charity, but it also supports discrimination, hate and gets rid of responsibility and consequences for actions.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 You don’t know what I think, but way to go for attacking a straw man argument.
Its a pity the hosts didnt ask the caller if he 'Thou shalt not kill' was a moral absolute. My guess he would say it is but if asked then should the Death Penalty be outlawed, Gun ownership outlawed and the US military disbanded he would change his tune.
First time I've seen this host. He was really good!
We literally have no contemporary historical evidence or documents for Jesus from the reign of Augustus and Tiberius! The gospels are stories
The BATTLE to the DEATH on planet EARTH
is still
ATHEISTS and CHRISTIANS
versus
The CREATOR, the MOST HIGH and SOVEREIGN GOD
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
unitedly trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false claims that -
1. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign GOD
will
definitely bring themselves and their own families and neighbors nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame and ETERNAL DEATHS
while
lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father
in obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and honor Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth
in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
will
definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are the guarantee
that
loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@@jaflenbond7854drama queen
@@joshsheridan9511 Who are the HATERS and MOCKERS of the CREATOR and the BIBLE on earth?
ANSWER -
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
unitedly trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false claims that -
1. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
are
clearly the LIARS and cruel, merciless, and deceitful HATERS and MOCKERS of the Creator and the Bible
who
obviously don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings.... unbothered and just don't care even if their arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, LIES and false teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
offend,
hurt, insult, dishonor, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors
and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS.
@@DJ-Synthnone of those arrested contemporary sources. Not one. You failed.
@@jaflenbond7854 nothing in your lying screed changes the fact that jesus didn't sacrifice his life if he is an immortal god. He merely had an inconvenient weekend. He's a useless schmuck.
"I have the moral high ground because my invisible friend says so".
Isn't that SO much easier than finding our way through the messy nature of some moral dilemmas and quandaries?
Basing your entire view of existence on 1st/2nd century accounts, written decades (at least,) after the events they're writing about, by authors who we're not altogether sure of, is not rational. Even more so, to arbitrarily break it all up into verses, and then pluck those verses when it's convenient to make some theological point, based on "the word of God," is even more irrational. They'd be better off to say they don't care if the accounts are accurate or not, they're going to consider it the word of a god anyway.
Such knowledgeable, kind, open minded and patient gentlemen! Why do religious people fear and hate us so much?
"God is incapable" statements repudiate the notion of divine omnipotence.
Almost as if the Omnifans don’t read their own press releases.
As soon as he was backed into a corner, he started passing judgment without solving the actual issue. I wish he wasn't left off the hook.
superstition - noun
1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation
b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition
2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary
Merriam-Webster
Great job guys. Right on the money.
The caller was full of hard assertions that all had gaping holes. He is what i call a premature concluder in his willingness to believe things while ignoring further logic that concludes more accurately.
Being correct is less important to him than stubbornly claiming to be correct.
He’s just preaching and jumping around. He won’t answer questions.
Why does the Spamtacular Florida BJ insist that there has to be a 'very first thing', other than that he is simply accustomed to thinking that way and never thought to question it?
People have died over the belief in slender man sadly enough
Rumor has it, this guy is still preaching on the phone.
What's puzzling is that so many WANT it to be true far more than most seem to care IF it is.
The benefit people derive from their religion does NOT rely on the claims to be demonstrably true, but their level of perceived benefit is directly proportional to their level of acceptance THAT it is true...therefore the apologist (and regular required reinforcement).
This seems to hold for every religion - each claiming the other is wrong, each with their own handy set of justifications.
Obvious result: MOST (and easily ALL) that are totally convinced - are in fact WRONG.
“Manuscripts are 98 % accurate”
Ummmm... not sure who that guy had been listening to, that is utter BS. There are literally hundreds of thousands of discrepancies between the thousands of different manuscripts that they have. He was either lying his butt off or parroting lies from someone else.
Man I miss these old shows where they weren't yelling at people and getting all mad and angry
The story of Jesus is not history.
@@DJ-Synth P L E A S E take your foolishness elsewhere! Thank you kindly!
@@DJ-Synth the story of Robin Hood is HIS-story. See how that doesn't matter? Fool.
Hell it's not even a good story.
@@DJ-Synth No, that's the story of Michael Jackson.
@@DJ-Synth "The Story of Jesus IS His-Story!"
If my story was as far fetched as Jesus' - I would not exist. The whole Jesus schtick is based on a special pleading fallacy. He is fictional. Get over it.
"The manuscripts 100% non-contradictory.... except for a very few differences"
How can a person manage to say something like this out loud and not IMMEDIATELY see the contradiction. Do they even understand what a contradiction is??😂
---- Evil produces Evil ----
Tell me what part of the evil of God DON'T you understand?😈😈😈
I really appreciate Martin's patience and knowledge.
One of FloJob's nonsensical argument for god is that only X can produce X. And to show that absurdity, i said only evil can produce evil, so god must be evil.
And to mock mocking HIM, he said:
""Hmmm, I thought God didn’t exist, so how can He be evil????"
So he's saying that god doesn't exist. And because he got caught admitting that his god doesn't exist, he deleted that comment!😂😂😂
Womp, womp.
That's funny. Florida hurt itself in it's confusion.
@@RickLambert963 Reported
@@Tuna_Man2323He was SO proud of his argument about how I could say god is evil if God didn't exist.😂 Because he couldn't grasp the concept that we can call fictional things evil all the time. If I say that Thanos is evil, I'm not saying Thanos exists.😂
@mariomiceli9663 What's wrong with respecting people and addressing them as the gender that they present?
Or do you go and check and make sure that their gender matches their biological sex? If so, are you a registered SA in all US states?
@mariomiceli9663 So if someone wants you to address them as a woman, you will. So what's your problem? If they want you to refer to them as she/her when talking about them in the 3rd person, you agree that you will.
If you are not obsessed with making sure that their biological sex matches their gender, then there are no issues.
10:00 "they found these manuscripts all over the world..."
So, in India, South America, North America, Australia? No.
"how do you figure out what is right and wrong" - First off, there is no such thing. People DECIDE that based on what makes society work better, even if sometimes it takes them a long time to figure things out, like slavery, since they were horribly confused by YOUR BIBLE in the first place; If you don't want "other people doing bad things to you", then logically "you don't do bad things to other people", and if you are too stupid or your brain is not in line with that, then OTHER PEOPLE will deal with you when they realize that your behavior of "I should just be able to do what I want to anyone else" means that eventually they will be the target of harm. If you need a "holy book" to figure this out for you, then you are probably one of the people the rest of us need protection from.
Cutting someones arm off, is generally seen as wrong.
Cutting somes arm off, because an infection in it would surely kill that person, is seen as right.
Cutting somes arm of, because an infection will kill them, while there is access to a medicine that will cure the infection, is seen as wrong.
Morality is situational. It just is.
Even if you believe that your god knows best, you would need access to that gods thought about every specific situation.
Without that, you are just making stuff up, like everyone else.
The difference is, we know it and take the responsibility, we aren't claiming that "god" commands it.
The BATTLE to the DEATH on planet EARTH
is still
ATHEISTS and CHRISTIANS
versus
The CREATOR, the MOST HIGH and SOVEREIGN GOD
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
unitedly trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false claims that -
1. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign GOD
will
definitely bring themselves and their own families and neighbors nothing but dishonor, disgrace, shame and ETERNAL DEATHS
while
lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father
in obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and honor Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth
in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
will
definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are the guarantee
that
loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@jaflenbond7854 nothing in your lying screed changes the fact that jesus didn't sacrifice his life if he is an immortal god. He merely had an inconvenient weekend. He's a useless schmuck.
@@jaflenbond7854 Pavlova🙏
@@jaflenbond7854 P L E A S E take your foolishness elsewhere! Thank you kindly!
He accused them of jumping all over the place, but he did the same thing dodging their questions.
What's the liklihood that Damonkey will show up to my stream, despite saying that he would come on and wipe the floor with me?
I have a new poll on that question on my Community page.😂
Lohooser. Have fun at your “big party” about me.
@@damonkenny3444Did you vote? I guess you are voting that you are too busy running away?
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs Are you trying to dishonestly trick your own audience? Why am I required to “show up” anywhere? Total bull!
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs What vote? Why am I required to “show up” anywhere? Total bull!
Poor old DonKey is dyslectic
With a rhetorical script eclectic
Too cowardly to debate
lest his ego suddenly deflate
This week it's Hegel's Dialectic.
He may as well ask « how do you know that not believing in alien abduction or leprecahauns is true » . The question makes no sense.
Great conversation! And it shouldn't be surprising that the main topics are the same because Christianity has not changed in terms of the basic beliefs of the various denominations and sects.
"""Various Denominations and Sects""" shows that christianity Has Changed.
@@tpseeker3367sure anybody can claim to be a Christian and say whatever they want. For example you can get members of the lgbtq community who are atheistic humanist and claim to be Christians maybe even become priests and homosexuality rape little boys that doesn't mean it has anything to do with Christianity. Christianity calls that an abomination.
Speaking of which you think you can keep the members of your community out of the church. Tell them to leave little boys alone. I know humanism teaches that this is an objectively immoral but it is
@@Kimjong-Atheism
You’ll say any dumb thing for the attention you don’t get offline.
@@tonyclements1147
You're just triggered by the truth. Talk about not getting offline you've been on these threads for atheist experience for years, year after year you're here, I could leave for 6 months or a year and come back and you'll still be online.
What's the matter are you triggered that I proven what atheism actually is . And you prefer being in your echo chamber
@@Kimjong-Atheism
Still whining about people being triggered when we’re actually all amused by your childish comments.
The hosts did a great job on this call
You can't reason with the unreasonable.
FACTS
@kelvintonblortsmon2457Who said that exactly? Hans Christian Andersen or the Brothers Grimm??
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 “You either have a good argument/explanation or you don't and you don't. Prove me wrong?" It's telling that you don't mention evidence. Given that you have neither the evidence nor the logic it's no wonder you keep using logical fallacies. By your standard you are a purple space penguin. This is proven because all purple space penguins lie about what they know and are incapable of being logical. Since you always lie about what you know and are incapable of being logical, you therefore are a Purple Space Penguin unless and until you prove otherwise because both my argument and explanation are irrefutable.
@@albaniahenry-franklin2829 He has this imaginary atheist living in his head. It's made completely out of straw. And that strawman says that humans came from soup, from mud puddles, maybe even out of his backside.
And NEPy can always beat that strawman in his head. And then he tells himself that he beat the bad ol' atheists for FIFTY years straight!
In the meanwhile, he's still running from talking to real atheists that don't live rent-free in his head.
@kelvintonblortsmon2457 your bed time story says they came from dirt, smartass
The problem is there are very obvious discrepancies in the accounts of the resurrection.
I've seen people try to explain that away by saying it's different viewpoints/timelines, but that's like saying the Chiefs didn't win Superbowl 57 because I didn't watch the last 10 minutes so I have a different viewpoint.
Hey ya’ll check this out…
Look at what FloJob posted:
"Hmmm, I thought God didn’t exist, so how can He be evil????"
That's right! He solved the problem of evil that's been plaguing theists. It turns out the answer was simple! God doesn't exist! According to FloJob.
That'll do FloJob, that'll do.🤣
Must be something in the water Florida drinks. You can see it in every post he's had. Must be something in the water he drinks. Cause why else would a woman want to treat his gh0d so bad?
JAILED TROLL: Dirt + Air = ADAM.
.
They really FRIED his brain in JAIL.
LOLZ
How much research has he done in Muhammad riding to heaven on a winged horse? I would guess the he is fine with not believing it really happened without researching it extensively as he wants the hosts to do on his favorite story.
How many times do we need to explain a simple concept of atheism before people understand it?
How long will theists ask the same things, claim the same things and argue the same arguments, before they realize they are repeating themselves.. when can we move on?
Another local troll, this time A pot currently using a day old alt @Kimjong-Atheism, believes that it's supernatural to believe that "the origins of Life popped into existence because of a non intelligent occurrence." To him, NOT involving his god is "supernatural". 😂
It makes me wonder if he has to pray everytime he has a bowel movement so that he doesn't create a supernatural 💩.
Tried to respond to your comment on Jim yet all the sudden 🗯 gone
(edit) This one: Queue Cee replied: "TP Seeker He seems to know a lot. But he also says that the speed of light squared is always 5. So knowing a LOT of wrong things isn't the best.😂😂"
@@tpseeker3367 If you mean a response to Ricky, yeah, he'll keep deleting and reposting the same thing, so I don't usually reply in his threads.
Oh well not like we'll be missing anything important @@ChallengeYourBeliefs
I often wonder how many of these "x number of manuscripts" people realize most of them are like one sentence long.
How do I know my atheism is true? If you meet the definition of atheism, your atheism is true. Might as well ask how do you know not collecting stamps is true? Just another ridiculous attempt at a Tu Quoque fallacy. It is not even wrong.
Defining atheism to be true! A fallacy!
@@damonkenny3444 Hey, it's the "man" of the hour, the absent Aussie from down under. Much further down under. Parts unknown. Where they speak differently and have different time zones. Yeah, that part of down under. Psych.
@@Tuna_Man2323 Can I get a refund
Easy!
There are no God's because I've never seen any 😎
Oh, and atheism gets me out of doing boring AF God ritual activities like worship and prayer 😊
And a good Sunday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤
Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️
There is no god. It's really that easy.
@@RickLambert963 There is no god. It's that easy.
@@RickLambert963 Found the Spirit of Truth rune stone in the far southwest corner of the Dragon's Grove. Loc: neg 588.27, pos 142.57, neg 12.29
Dawgar = The Known Earth.[1]
Gorgog = King Gog.[2]
Goria = Throne of the King.[2]
The EverQuest Team
@@RickLambert963 Boasting global markets of over US$150 billion for video games [1] and over US$7 billion for board games [2], the game industry represents a major entertainment market. Indeed, the video and board game industries offer a wide range of games that are usable in various domains. The growing popularity of games markets has led to an increasing amount of research on how game practice affects human behavior and cognitive functions. A common method of carrying out such research is to compare players’ and nonplayers’ abilities. Therefore, recent studies have mainly shown that players demonstrate better cognitive performance than non-players do [3, 4]. Until now, players have generally been defined according to an overall minimum play time or to a minimum game genre-specific play time. However, player profiles are numerous and represent a wide diversity of playing practices. Moreover, a primary limitation of such research involves the lack of consideration of variability in the players’ play time and the type of game they play. Therefore, it remains unclear whether the cognitive benefits of play are due to overall play time or to specific game types. 💪
@@RickLambert963 there is no evidence. That's why it's easy.
Anyone answer this question for me. Why is it that because science can't answer a question about the cosmos RIGHT NOW that means science is wrong and God is the answer?
Why do you believe that science and learning and discovery are not on going and that we are not answering questions continually? You KNOW we are learning constantly. How do you not see how pathetically small it is to ask a cosmological question and scream God is the answer when we simply haven't gotten far enough to answer it? That isn't an argument.
Who are the HATERS and MOCKERS of the CREATOR and the BIBLE on earth?
ANSWER -
Atheists, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
unitedly trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to believe their LIES and false claims that -
1. the Bible is just a worthless book of lies, myths, fictions, fantasies, and fairy tales
2. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign GOD
are
clearly the LIARS and cruel, merciless, and deceitful HATERS and MOCKERS of the Creator and the Bible
who
obviously don't respect and value the lives, dignities, and existence of human beings.... unbothered and just don't care even if their arrogance, treacheries, cruelties, hypocrisies, deceits, LIES and false teachings and doctrines about
"hellfire", "afterlife", "immortality of the souls", "Armageddon", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
offend,
hurt, insult, dishonor, humiliate, and degrade the lives and dignities of all human beings including that of their own families and neighbors
and cause their humiliations, degradations, sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and DEATHS .
What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLE, the CREATOR, and JESUS CHRIST to human beings?
ANSWER -
The BIBLE is the "WORD of GOD" and source of the TRUTHS that -
1. lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey the Creator as their loving, kind, and merciful GOD and Heavenly Father
in obedience to what were written in Matthew 22: 37 and John 17: 3
and honor Jesus Christ too as the One given by the Creator all authority in heaven and on earth
in obedience to what's written in Matthew 28: 18
will
definitely bring themselves honor and the Creator's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4.
2. The teachings of Jesus Christ about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" written in Luke 4: 43 and John 11: 25, 26
are the guarantee
that
loving, kind, considerate, and respectful persons on earth
who
died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will
all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@jaflenbond7854 nothing in your lying screed changes the fact that jesus didn't sacrifice his life if he is an immortal god. He merely had an inconvenient weekend. He's a useless schmuck.
@@jaflenbond7854 Lamingtons😇
@@jaflenbond7854 P L E A S E take your foolishness elsewhere! Thank you kindly!
@@holgerlubotzki3469 going to assume he said something crazy stupid since UA-cam already filtered it out :p
this isn't about proving god this is about morality
WHEN things are the same on all 4 gospel stories: MUST have happened; four different people say the same thing.
WHEN things are conflicting in the 4 stories: the are 4 different PERSPECTIVES; you can't expect them to say the same thing over and over.
.
Meanwhile, Matthew and Luke COPIED from Mark. They all copied.
LOLZ
It would not be the case that Matthew copied from Luke AND Luke copied from Matthew.
The prevailing thought is that both Matthew and Luke had access to Mark and copied from it independently. The other hypothesis is that there's an alternate source, Q, that both Matthew and Luke copied from.
"Manuscripts" as evidence of accuracy is identical to claiming the more Xerox copies, the truer what is written becomes. Instead, all it does is possibly establish that what we have is as originally written; nothing about the validity of what was originally written.
2 Timothy 2:23-26
As a servant of the Lord, you must not argue. You must be kind to everyone. You must be a good teacher, and you must be patient. You must gently teach those who don't agree with you.🤐🤣
Looks like all the claimed Christians here have failed that!
@@jaflenbond7854Stop arguing. Be kind and a good teacher. Be patient and gentle.😂
Matthew 11:20-24 says otherwise.
2 Timothy is pseudepigraphical. It wasn't actually written by Paul, who was an idiot anyway, but by one of the other idiots in the early church, after Paul had died, attempting to use Paul's authority to strengthen their edicts.
Try telling that to Karen of the Comments Jim Castleberry!
Why did these men have Western names ? Peter,John,Mathew Luke etc....
Church tradition, the gospels are anonymous.
The old days of AXP were a dark age, back before they had hosts who told callers to shut the f*ck up and stay on topic.
My brother's Bible is exactly the same as mine.
Therefore they are both true
The moment I hear that from someone who can explain how they manage, as a matter of principle, to believe everything they haven't disproved, I will take it seriously.
@@georgeaguilar6996 No, but thanks for your no doubt sincere concern for my well-being, George!
@@georgeaguilar6996thank you for not pretending to know how to respond to that 😂
Religion is only about money and power: Christians say: “Believe in my God, listen to what I say, do what I tell you to do, never question me, love who I tell you to love and hate who I tell you to hate. Give me your money."
🏃♂How embarrassing for DamonKenny that he chickened out of his live debate with Quecee... again! 🤦♂
If the sun comes up tomorrow I'll be equally surprised
@@RickLambert963copy paste hate speech troll.
What's even more pathetic is that after they chickened out, they came to the comment section to throw petty insults.
@jonclark8252 He posted on the comments, of the video where he failed to show up to confront me, that I am terrified of HIM.
How does that make sense? In Damonkey land, where he's an "astutely well read and educated" person it apparently makes sense.
In that fantasy land, he showed up to the live stream and and mopped the floor with me by referring to a 1944 book by Schroedinger as a citation to a genetic problem that was reported in 2008.
And in that fantasy land, everything he posts makes sense.😂
Christofascists never know a thing about their own writings. This guy is delusional.
The caller ended and concluded with the statement that nobody can be or remain sinless, therefore God made a way for us to be forgiven and saved from our inevitable and ongoing sins. Okay, that may be good and fine, but what we need an answer for now is WHY did God create evil in the first place (sin) and then give "free will" to man and woman so that they would have to choose between the two - good and evil (sin). Seems to me that it was pre-planned that way so humans would be forced to ask for forgiveness from the sinful nature God had created us with in the beginning - that or else be cast into hell. WOW. Am I getting this right? And finally, WHY would have an omnipotent and all powerful God NEEDED to arrange this kind of set up? I'm shaking my head over here.
Wait, the Spamming Florida BJ just said, "I thought God didnt exist"!
Did you, Spamming Florida BJ? Well, thanks for confessing that!
Busted by his own words!
Meanwhile, Ricky Lamebot's been saying he's never claimed there's a god! 🙃
He accidentally said the quiet part aloud.
"What has atheism ever done for you?"
"Well, it's nice to not have to fear going to hell."
"You're just using atheism as an excuse to not live under gods rules!"
Secular laws ended slavery in the west , when Christianity failed to for 1800 years.
Xtians: Just ADD THE SH1T up in all the 4 gospels and then CLAIM they were only giving partial accounts.
IF one says 1 man and the second says 2 man 3 women and the third says 3 men 2 angels and the fourth says 3 men 4 guards ...
Just ADD THAT SH1T up and claim there were 3 men 2 women 2 angels and 4 guards.
LOLZ
Stealing is absolutely wrong, but I got to decide what is qualified as stealing.
God's words is abosolute, but I got to decide what God said.
Classic Christian reasoning