Appreciate the wealth of knowledge in this panel. Despite their conflicting stand points, I love that they all brought a new perspective to this conversation.
Gogo westhembu's advice delulu, one moment lobola was about culture next thing its about women feeling like the prize - confusion of the highest order.
Yoh listening to gogo westhembu i hear so much chaos in her words. And she sounds like she is all about projecting something that was forced on her. Yoh.
Dineo is extremely smart and she articulates herself so well. And so is Priddy. Utata is so wise. How he explains and breaks down things is so on point. This was supposed to be a 2 hour conversation
I enjoyed this panel because it was quite diverse. Society was encompassed as a whole. There is Dineo, Baba, Gogo Westhembu, Priddy in our community and I believe that we should engage each other more because everyone is coming with their experience. Throughly enjoyed this one. Had a cracking up here and there.
I love love what Priddy said about men controlling their sexual appetite. Hayi amagents they want to get into everything. Look we got stronger libidos however if only we could channel that drive into constructive things. I mean angeke uba'cede anyway
@@sibongisenikhumalo8198 yeah but what she said is not a rule so how can women who don't want lobola be an exception have u asked majority of women about it in order to make a generalizing statement like "every woman wants a lobola" 🤨
A combination of Bhut' Ndabe Myeza and Dineo Ranaka! 🙌🏽👌🏽😘 Great minds!!❤❤❤ I feel Gogo weSthembu is very much on her defence mode ngama choices akhe!! 🫣🤔
thank you again for such a wonderful conversation, i get so excited when i see us as a people breakdown and discect ourselves because it means that we are noticing that there is a disconnect. i am so sad to hear what gogo westhembu had to say about women wanting to be the prize and that you can never get in between the relationship between women and money...this is the main problem for me when it comes to lobola as I have seen us women use it for status and not for the duty of it. Please continue to converse guys, maybe there is hope after all. what a great community!!!
Dineo was fixed to be who she is and never open to listen to other ppl. Ppl want to subscribe to culture but only when it suits them. This conversation for me was flat. It was all over the show, they didn’t really discuss black love.
My 2 cents worth - can we not confuse lobola with bringing families together. Families can be brought together culturally by slaughtering (whichever animal of choice) and it can even go as far as the family of the groom being the one requested to by the animal to be slaughtered including food to be prepared and have a celebration between families (introducing the union to the ancestors - which what it should be about) and throwing in the gifting part if agreed upon without having the one family PAYING a LUMP SUM that is nowadays used to extort families. I agree with uMkhulu that we kinda need to go back to the drawing board in as far as the purpose of lobola especially now v then. I read a comment that said signing at home affairs/magistrate court is not marriage and i ask "How many couples out there have done the lobola process and are currently separated (did not proceed with getting married)? With this question i can also losely say lobola IS NOT marriage. 🤷🏽♀️
I would never adjust for a man... Men basically trick women, and the same women don't think they can do better, so they settle...I'd rather die alone with 10 cats!
She is..! She has such an interesting mindset, I love her way of thinking but she’s not for everyone. She’s very self aware and not afraid to go against the grain.
Actually, ilobolo is a trade price hidden under cultural practices. The fact tha it has to be negotiated; it means we are selling each other "something". Ilobolo should be whateva he can afford or willing to give. Once we start negotiating and arguing on the price, just know that someone is being sold.
Losing a daughter to another man's household, either through vat-en-sit or marriage is an economic loss to a father who spent time and money in developing their daughter - all economic benefits derived from his investment in the child will be transferred to the household of the groom, even if the only thing his daughter knows is how to clean the house - it is still an economic loss to his father's household.
If a sport club can negotiate a price for a player they want to sell to another team, what is wrong with selling your child for a fee commensurate with the value they contributed to your family?
@@thatomolefe5966 Raising your children is not an investment, but your responsibility. Your children don’t owe you anything for raising them… but the way you raised them will show on how they appreciate you for raising them well. So, ilobolo should never be a price, should never be negotiated cuz we a not in business here “like in sport” but we are building relationships. Ilobolo is not meant to enrich her in laws or to pay back every cent used to raise her. Raising your children is your responsibility, not investment.
@@Facts_Only_SA In western culture a child is seen as a responsibility/burden, but in Africa a child is seen as an asset or even an employee or servant of the family - that is why the man is responsible for paying Magadi or iLobolo because they will benefit from the introduction of a new member in their household. Ilobolo is not just an African principle but a human principle. Read the bible it speaks of a negotiation between Saul and David for the bride-price for Saul's daughter.
According to my perspective and how I was raised: some people forget that this is Africa and not America, there is nothing like divorcing your parents never!! especially here in Africa never, as a man I would never marry a woman when I don't know her parents. No matter how much u hate or don't get along with family but make that one day for me to meet them and tell them that u is getting married to me. Lobola is not about me giving your parents money but also building a relationship and knowing them. Hypothetically... we both divorce our parents we then get married, unfortunately we both die, what is going to happen with our children? As an African STOP living an American fantasy, we are spiritually beings, believe in cultures, we believe in collectivism we are collectivism not Individualism. Everything she said in 2:20 is opposite of what she uttered during the conversation.
This actually depends on the toxicity of the family you are coming from. Y'all are speaking from a place of your own experience as well as Dineo. Families are dynamic and you should learn to understand and hear where a person is coming from when unpacking something.
Its a real insult bringing Dineo and uBaba in the same space as uGogo wes'thembu. Felt like Dineo was engaging with an insect. Its one thing to hold divergent views, quite another to be narrow and myopic in a public platform like this.
I love how Dineo quickly called out gogo for that "in a rush for marriage comment." It was very ignorant. This Gogo woman is a very ignorant individual and she is very confused
In Lesotho re amohela makoti even if lobola is not paid. There is slaughtering of a goat as a sign of uniting the two families and welcoming the makoti to the new family. Yes lobola is important mar we should also look at whether the man can afford or not. Lets also remember that lobola is not marriage 🙏🙏
I get that Gogo Westhembu is passionate, but she should read the room next time.....everyone is responding with calm energy and she's up there ekare wa lwana with someone who advices different from her views
What if this topic does this to her? I think she should just be let be, you don't want to have someone's "fire" die down because we don't like how they present.
Gogo Westhembu keeps saying you cant exist alone. This is her theory yet there are many South Africans who are LIVING this REALITY. She needs to forget this theory and focus on giving the best advice based of people's lived experiences. That's the part Dineo understands!
I personally love Dineo, a girl like her and me can last in love. Many people don't get her because she is selfish with herself but selfless in sharing her truth
Can you please engage in this topic without fear ,people need to talk about the trauma that comes after the Lobola and financial burden that comes after marrige.We are loosing the intrest of the lobola culture as black people because our marria ges dont last
This conversation was just showing me how far lost we are , I wish they invited people who Embrace ancestry, elders and African. Dineo is okay, but I'd never allow my kids to listen to her, coz we are Africans and what she teach is not okay at all...Gogo And Baba Atleast still consider the respect to African spiritual n ancestry...Gogo I Respect you...
They needed to invite ppl who can add value to the conversation not ppl who come with preconceived ideas about what black love is. This conversation was very flat for me.
UGogo'westhembu knows a lot about nothing, she reminds me of that one kasi aunt who thinks she knows everything and has decided that things should be a certain way kodwa ubheda umhlolo😭no man her reasoning is primitive
In conversation where's there's panel people are allowed to use generalizations and not rely on anecdotal evidence which is why Dineo's tone and response is off.It's like she said "I'm not gonna participate in a positive manner I'll just oppose everything everyone says"
A lot of black young people are raising a flag on the toxicity that we've normalized in our black homes. So not wanting to have lobola paid for you because of family drama is a very good reason to ditch the whole lobola thing. And honestly, i believe that the lobola thing is a control issue. Black parents wanting to dictate your life...ai guys. Hence ma 2000 are are here parenting themselves.
Angizwanga nokuthi kuvunyelwane ngani, nokuthi into yelobolo iphelephi? That is way too much editing. Can we get the raw (unedited) footage version for us living on UA-cam please?
If you understand African custom you would know that a daughter, in principle, ceases to be your child once they are married, they become the child and responsibility of the tribe they are married into, this is signified by the change of surname. The unity of two families may be useful but is arbitrary. Marriage is in essence a business transaction that leads to losses and gains, one family gains a new member to their tribe, the father of the bride essentially loses a member of his family(their daughter) - who's expertise, contributions and help will now belong to another household in spite of all that he spent to raise the child. Only a man who never paid compensation for taking another man's daughter to be their wife would be open to giving their daughter away for free.
You nailed it concerning what lobola is at it's core! Truly it's not in the favour of the woman being lobola'd because one is literally being sold off to a new family. To such an extent that, even your ancestors will somehow "step down" on how they show for you in your matrimonial home. The man's ancestors become the main dictators on what goes or not. It has never been about uniting two families. Because if it's unity, both parties should be equally observed
I'm not skipping anything with Dineo in it 🥰
Same here😊
Same Sis' 🥰🥰🥰
Same Sis' 🥰🥰🥰
☺️🥰🥰I am with you.
Me too 😊
I love it when Ntate breaks down the meaning of words!!!!
Absolutely love it
I love him so much. ❤
everytime I hear Dineo speak I just imagine that TikTok guy😭🤣🤣🤣
The existing "alone" is trully a reality for many & honestly there is peace ✌️
Appreciate the wealth of knowledge in this panel. Despite their conflicting stand points, I love that they all brought a new perspective to this conversation.
True about cohabitation, vat n sat is the reason we have so many people co parenting🤧🤞🏾
Yeer ausi Dineo came as "me" to this conversation!!! love her stance.💗
Best episode ever watched on this show. Tata uMyeza is the best
Gogo westhembu's advice delulu, one moment lobola was about culture next thing its about women feeling like the prize - confusion of the highest order.
SHE IS NOT SUPOSSED TO BE THERE
I agree she is out of order
@@SandilePhakathi-p7l WE DONT NEED SUCH PEOPLE IN THESE KIND OF SHOWS
She's so imposing her personal beliefs into other people, and she really personalises alot of topics
@@sandisiwemanxusa4872my thoughts exactly 🤚🏾🤦🏾♀️
Yoh listening to gogo westhembu i hear so much chaos in her words. And she sounds like she is all about projecting something that was forced on her. Yoh.
i hear alot of broken and regretful life choices that ended being embraced to hide the scars. and again not open minded.
She’s projecting shame. There so much regret in her
She’s really contradicting herself because she doesn’t want to listen
This show should be called honest conversations because yei ...shots are fired everywhere 😂
Dineo is extremely smart and she articulates herself so well. And so is Priddy. Utata is so wise. How he explains and breaks down things is so on point. This was supposed to be a 2 hour conversation
I agree with you on Priddy and utata, but Dineo being smart is a stretch.. She just speaks English very well.
Gogo Westhembu is not listening and she needs to stop contradicting herself
Dineo 😂nywere nywere 😂
I enjoyed this panel because it was quite diverse. Society was encompassed as a whole. There is Dineo, Baba, Gogo Westhembu, Priddy in our community and I believe that we should engage each other more because everyone is coming with their experience. Throughly enjoyed this one. Had a cracking up here and there.
uBaba uyajikijela today... I'm with him 100% on all his points 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Please bring him on the penuel show bra Pen siyacela
Panzo we know that you and tebego don't believe in marriage.
Truth all the way.
lobola will never be my pride. Marrying a man who loves and cares for me is all the pride I need
I love love what Priddy said about men controlling their sexual appetite. Hayi amagents they want to get into everything. Look we got stronger libidos however if only we could channel that drive into constructive things. I mean angeke uba'cede anyway
What Dineo knows 😮noone else does...and she is so respectful 😊
Only a few understands her, I just love the way she thinks❤ my kinda type of friend.
Well, I must say.. ugogo westhembu's mentality and mindset baffles me. There's absolutely no way she thinks that way everyday????😭😭😭
This episode was so informative ❤🎉
This is nothing but a master class, repeating it will I be doing over and over again..
What a triggering topic... one of the topics that I'm so passionate about.
Yerr... ilobolo exposes most of the brokenness of the Black family.
Gogo westhembu please don't speak for us, we are a different generation we want different things you can't just say sonke sifuna ILobola
There is always an exception miss obvious
@@sibongisenikhumalo8198 yeah but what she said is not a rule so how can women who don't want lobola be an exception have u asked majority of women about it in order to make a generalizing statement like "every woman wants a lobola" 🤨
@@jabulilemondlane9992 the fact is we don't know if she did the survey to support her statement so yeah it goes without saying that it's not all women
@@sibongisenikhumalo8198 she was speaking her opinion same as everyone in the panel and yes it's not every women
@@jabulilemondlane9992 yes it's her opinion but is it far fetched
A combination of Bhut' Ndabe Myeza and Dineo Ranaka! 🙌🏽👌🏽😘 Great minds!!❤❤❤
I feel Gogo weSthembu is very much on her defence mode ngama choices akhe!! 🫣🤔
Pweety Ugly is raised well yho!
He is a breath of fresh air. ❤
Right !!! 🫶🏾
l liked how Gogo Westhembu defended her points........ Dineo and uGogo are 2 different worlds and it made the show interesting
Lemi forgot his other name😂😂😂 "homework! Do you have a money?"
thank you again for such a wonderful conversation, i get so excited when i see us as a people breakdown and discect ourselves because it means that we are noticing that there is a disconnect. i am so sad to hear what gogo westhembu had to say about women wanting to be the prize and that you can never get in between the relationship between women and money...this is the main problem for me when it comes to lobola as I have seen us women use it for status and not for the duty of it. Please continue to converse guys, maybe there is hope after all. what a great community!!!
Dineo must understand that ngesintu we do not marry to an individual but a family. Secondly home affairs or magistrate signing its not a marriage
Mmmmhhh, nice one..love this comment, the more I grow the better I get the understanding of our African culture
Dineo was fixed to be who she is and never open to listen to other ppl. Ppl want to subscribe to culture but only when it suits them. This conversation for me was flat. It was all over the show, they didn’t really discuss black love.
@fezilephungwayo343 And no one can do anything about it... she's hard core like that!!! And that's dangerous.
@@fezilephungwayo343 True they were all over the place
@@Mthomilk All she knows is sex
You can't exist alone that gogo is right,words might be failing her to put it right but she is right
Dineo yena mon ke tsibinki ye kgolo
She doesn't like if she's not dominating
Dineo “Yoh bo mbhora gore” and proceeded with an annoyed facial expression 😂
I love this conversation.❤
My 2 cents worth - can we not confuse lobola with bringing families together.
Families can be brought together culturally by slaughtering (whichever animal of choice) and it can even go as far as the family of the groom being the one requested to by the animal to be slaughtered including food to be prepared and have a celebration between families (introducing the union to the ancestors - which what it should be about) and throwing in the gifting part if agreed upon without having the one family PAYING a LUMP SUM that is nowadays used to extort families.
I agree with uMkhulu that we kinda need to go back to the drawing board in as far as the purpose of lobola especially now v then.
I read a comment that said signing at home affairs/magistrate court is not marriage and i ask "How many couples out there have done the lobola process and are currently separated (did not proceed with getting married)? With this question i can also losely say lobola IS NOT marriage. 🤷🏽♀️
your first Sentence is underrated ❣
Lobola can stay without the money, just the exchange of gifts. Money has become a demon
I would never adjust for a man... Men basically trick women, and the same women don't think they can do better, so they settle...I'd rather die alone with 10 cats!
Just discovered this channel today
Great insightful topic 😊
ubab'uMyeza is such an intelligent man
Dineo Ranaka a GENIUS
She is..! She has such an interesting mindset, I love her way of thinking but she’s not for everyone. She’s very self aware and not afraid to go against the grain.
Yess❤😭Her and Ntate Ndabe have such a great mindset, it's refreshing.
Actually, ilobolo is a trade price hidden under cultural practices. The fact tha it has to be negotiated; it means we are selling each other "something". Ilobolo should be whateva he can afford or willing to give. Once we start negotiating and arguing on the price, just know that someone is being sold.
Yes there is nothing wrong in paying a trade price for a woman, if that woman is valuable to their father
Losing a daughter to another man's household, either through vat-en-sit or marriage is an economic loss to a father who spent time and money in developing their daughter - all economic benefits derived from his investment in the child will be transferred to the household of the groom, even if the only thing his daughter knows is how to clean the house - it is still an economic loss to his father's household.
If a sport club can negotiate a price for a player they want to sell to another team, what is wrong with selling your child for a fee commensurate with the value they contributed to your family?
@@thatomolefe5966 Raising your children is not an investment, but your responsibility. Your children don’t owe you anything for raising them… but the way you raised them will show on how they appreciate you for raising them well. So, ilobolo should never be a price, should never be negotiated cuz we a not in business here “like in sport” but we are building relationships. Ilobolo is not meant to enrich her in laws or to pay back every cent used to raise her. Raising your children is your responsibility, not investment.
@@Facts_Only_SA In western culture a child is seen as a responsibility/burden, but in Africa a child is seen as an asset or even an employee or servant of the family - that is why the man is responsible for paying Magadi or iLobolo because they will benefit from the introduction of a new member in their household. Ilobolo is not just an African principle but a human principle. Read the bible it speaks of a negotiation between Saul and David for the bride-price for Saul's daughter.
Gogo is a Realist and doesn't shy away from the facts of reality.
Dineo roasting Gogo wesithembu😭😭🤣🤣
Aphinde agoduke 😂😂lobola must be insured 😢
According to my perspective and how I was raised: some people forget that this is Africa and not America, there is nothing like divorcing your parents never!! especially here in Africa never, as a man I would never marry a woman when I don't know her parents. No matter how much u hate or don't get along with family but make that one day for me to meet them and tell them that u is getting married to me. Lobola is not about me giving your parents money but also building a relationship and knowing them. Hypothetically... we both divorce our parents we then get married, unfortunately we both die, what is going to happen with our children? As an African STOP living an American fantasy, we are spiritually beings, believe in cultures, we believe in collectivism we are collectivism not Individualism.
Everything she said in 2:20 is opposite of what she uttered during the conversation.
I agree with you there’s no such thing as divorcing your parents and lobola it’s about bringing two families
I fully concur. Dineo needs a reality check on this particular topic
This actually depends on the toxicity of the family you are coming from. Y'all are speaking from a place of your own experience as well as Dineo. Families are dynamic and you should learn to understand and hear where a person is coming from when unpacking something.
Denoe. Now I get u. Nasi joe losisi has a stable mind
Bab' uMyeza is a human library
YA Dineo is something else, powerhouse ❤
It would help if views were fully expressed. Feels like too much gets cut, however, I'm new here. Very positive!!!
shout out to Castle Milk Stout.
I feel Gogo westhembu needs to listen to understand not to defend.
Gogo,please. I'm doing well, raised my kids financially alone. ❤
there is a difference between believe and the true way of living
Definitely. On the belief, it is individualistic. Don't force it on others as universal
Its a real insult bringing Dineo and uBaba in the same space as uGogo wes'thembu. Felt like Dineo was engaging with an insect. Its one thing to hold divergent views, quite another to be narrow and myopic in a public platform like this.
Now That am listening to our beautiful sister Dineo Ranaka, reminds me of the tiktoker who impersonate her 😊
I love how Dineo quickly called out gogo for that "in a rush for marriage comment." It was very ignorant.
This Gogo woman is a very ignorant individual and she is very confused
Just came here straight from Tiktok 😅😂
I enjoyed this conversation
Yey muhn Dinny and Ntate moo imparting knowledge.
In Lesotho re amohela makoti even if lobola is not paid. There is slaughtering of a goat as a sign of uniting the two families and welcoming the makoti to the new family. Yes lobola is important mar we should also look at whether the man can afford or not.
Lets also remember that lobola is not marriage 🙏🙏
Please invite Unathi Nkayi ❤🎉
Gogo Westhembu and Dineo 😂😂🙈
Bathong Dineo o strict goreeeeee😅😂😂😂❤ ba re as long as o tlhobola panti o ska ntena 😂😂😂
I get that Gogo Westhembu is passionate, but she should read the room next time.....everyone is responding with calm energy and she's up there ekare wa lwana with someone who advices different from her views
She's the my way or the high way type 😴 thinks her opinion is gospel truth
What if this topic does this to her? I think she should just be let be, you don't want to have someone's "fire" die down because we don't like how they present.
@@noluthandomaseti3257 you're right, she is passionate about her stance. I respect that.
Gogo Westhembu keeps saying you cant exist alone. This is her theory yet there are many South Africans who are LIVING this REALITY. She needs to forget this theory and focus on giving the best advice based of people's lived experiences. That's the part Dineo understands!
I just lo🎉ve anything by Dineo❤ she is articulate❤ 3:11
Gogo westembu my dear aowa bafana ah eh
Gogo westhembu is her!!!!!
Goat 🐐
I personally love Dineo, a girl like her and me can last in love. Many people don't get her because she is selfish with herself but selfless in sharing her truth
There was no need for Gogo Westhembu in this conversation.
I will have to disagree with you on that one😊
I need my own Dineo😊
Here for Dineo❤
Can you please engage in this topic without fear ,people need to talk about the trauma that comes after the Lobola and financial burden that comes after marrige.We are loosing the intrest of the lobola culture as black people because our marria
ges dont last
thank you Dineo
If lobola is not important why do some women go as far as paying it for themselves....???
Listen to Dineo claiming that she's doing well as a single mother with different baby daddies 😅... she's miserable,angry and lonely
Dineo just speaks good English besides that she's empty
This conversation was just showing me how far lost we are
, I wish they invited people who Embrace ancestry, elders and African.
Dineo is okay, but I'd never allow my kids to listen to her, coz we are Africans and what she teach is not okay at all...Gogo And Baba Atleast still consider the respect to African spiritual n ancestry...Gogo I Respect you...
Yeah, I am not sure what she stands for, it was confusing for me given that she’s also a spiritual healer in training.
They needed to invite ppl who can add value to the conversation not ppl who come with preconceived ideas about what black love is. This conversation was very flat for me.
ngiyayithandake le topic, kusho ukuthi umuntu makalobolwe ngezinkomo ezi8.
37:40 the lady hit a nerve ku sisi Dineo hey😹😹😹🔥
Ithole umnikazi😂😂
UGogo'westhembu knows a lot about nothing, she reminds me of that one kasi aunt who thinks she knows everything and has decided that things should be a certain way kodwa ubheda umhlolo😭no man her reasoning is primitive
In conversation where's there's panel people are allowed to use generalizations and not rely on anecdotal evidence which is why Dineo's tone and response is off.It's like she said "I'm not gonna participate in a positive manner I'll just oppose everything everyone says"
That's exactly how I received her, she did not bring anything positive to the conversation.
THE TOPIC OF LOBOLA YOU NEEDED MATURE AND EDUCATED ADULTS FOR THE TOPIC
Gogo Mthembu is a wise lady ❤
I beg to differ - She was all over the place
A lot of black young people are raising a flag on the toxicity that we've normalized in our black homes. So not wanting to have lobola paid for you because of family drama is a very good reason to ditch the whole lobola thing.
And honestly, i believe that the lobola thing is a control issue. Black parents wanting to dictate your life...ai guys. Hence ma 2000 are are here parenting themselves.
if one hates their family and community they must not haul us in. really
Gogo Westhembu's husband trapped her honestly.
Angizwanga nokuthi kuvunyelwane ngani, nokuthi into yelobolo iphelephi? That is way too much editing. Can we get the raw (unedited) footage version for us living on UA-cam please?
baba Myeza is smart
Yilo ubolo. Unamanga umuntu omdala 😮😮😮
Ayanda Borotho was supposed to be here. Ayi noooo
Gogo westhembu basically told us she was tricked into a polygamous marriage, whoever called her here knew what they were doing.
WE NEED MAPHALALA FROM UMKHOKHA ON THE PARNEL
I’m sorry but Gogo was confused yoh
Women in polygamous marriages are single parents. Kids don't have a present father on a daily. They see daddy on a time table. Same as co-parenting
Baba’s definition of ilobolo (yilo ubolo) is not make sure. What about virgins who got lobola’d bengakoniwa?
If you understand African custom you would know that a daughter, in principle, ceases to be your child once they are married, they become the child and responsibility of the tribe they are married into, this is signified by the change of surname. The unity of two families may be useful but is arbitrary. Marriage is in essence a business transaction that leads to losses and gains, one family gains a new member to their tribe, the father of the bride essentially loses a member of his family(their daughter) - who's expertise, contributions and help will now belong to another household in spite of all that he spent to raise the child. Only a man who never paid compensation for taking another man's daughter to be their wife would be open to giving their daughter away for free.
You nailed it concerning what lobola is at it's core! Truly it's not in the favour of the woman being lobola'd because one is literally being sold off to a new family. To such an extent that, even your ancestors will somehow "step down" on how they show for you in your matrimonial home. The man's ancestors become the main dictators on what goes or not.
It has never been about uniting two families. Because if it's unity, both parties should be equally observed
@@missdatjha5513 Lea di rata di ancestor ne!
@@thatomolefe5966 uthi kwenzenjani?
she was Triggered at 37:21
❤❤❤❤❤❤Dineo
Love Dineo but am with uGogo on this one.
When is the next episode dropping?
35:37 Priddy Ugly is such a cool and laid back guy. Dineo is so not open for this debate. Baba yena le ena he’s all over the place😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂ziyakhala kee king Zoso😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 uthini umqala