CZ P 10 M...DESIGNED FOR CONCEALED CARRY!
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- In this video, we will be be discussing the CZ P-10 M. We will compare this model to other types of carry guns in similar category to help establish considerations for comfort while carrying. The features will be detailed and we will discuss how these different features might have value to the owner. A brief overview of range performance will be presented along with a summary of the carry experience with regards to holster selection and coverall comfort. In closing. we will present overall impressions of the firearm as a carry option. Thanks for watching!
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I absolutely love my P10C. It is quite possibly my favorite handgun ever, and I have owned handguns that were around the 2k price point. I understand, yet also don't understand the capacity debate. You are correct that data suggests that most defensive shootings don't need that many rounds. Data suggests that more than 95% of defensive shootings occur under 10 feet and are over in 3 rounds or less. I don't go places where I am likely to ever have to defend myself. I keep my head on a swivel. I also train a lot with handguns. I carried a Glock 43 for a while and I was more than confident in my abilities with it. People like to say, "it is better to be prepared for any situation". Yet they don't understand that such a statement is an impossibility. If they actually stood behind that argument, why aren't those people all carrying Glocks with multiple spare 33 round mags all along their belt. Then they say "because weight is painful". I like to say "oh, so because it is uncomfortable for you, you are going to sacrifice capacity"? People need to just let other people do their own thing with firearms and not judging others by what they do. I am gonna buy this P10M and give it a chance.
I used to really dislike this pistol and thought CZ made a really poor choice releasing this when they did. But after some thought, 7+1 is more than a J Frame can carry, it will have actual usable sights unlike a lot of J frames, and this would probably make a great pocket carry pistol.
If I didn't have a Shield Plus, I might consider one of these, especially for around $250 at Dahlonega Armory.
some other good things about a large trigger guard that are nice: if you're wearing gloves, you can actually get your finger into the guard. if there is one thing CZ does well, it's making a gun that feels natural to grip, point, and squeeze. I'm worried the trigger and capacity weaken this option, but CZ did a lot to slim down this gun in a way that makes it more straightforward and foolproof to carry and, God forbid, use.
In my opinion it's a great addition. Small simple not to much. Basically a g43 with a light rail. nice review. I like watching and seeing what's new out there.
Its a natural pointer in my hands and just eats up anything I feed it. I use it as a backup but also trust it as a primary CC. For some weird reason, its eye candy to me. Contemplated on selling it a few times but am glad I didnt. Love the little guy
there will all be the super leet mall ninjas with their 20 round guns with idiot dot on top....can't worry about them. This gun does exactly what it's designed to do. Easy deep concealment.
I have p10c and p10m, I love my little p10m ❤
I think this would be the perfect platform for .30 Super Carry.
Fits well in a Glock 48 kydex holster, you can trim about 3/4" off the end of the holster for a more exact fit
Great review , very concise and too the point ! Just subscribed . CZ firearms are terrific and more reliable then Glocks .
Love this pistol and CZ. (I have a Bren 2). Trigger has longish travel. Can it be re-worked or replaced? CZ should consider a pinky extension. Has decent beaver tail. I’m gonna try one out locally. Good video 👍
Great review. You got me thinking. I just wish the plus 3 mag extensions were more available. But I do love CZ firearms. The price in my area is actually down to $299 if you can believe that.
Hyve technologies has plus 2. I have it on mine and it works perfectly
I’d love to see a modern rami type gun! Like a single stack Cz 75 phantom compact! That would be a major home run
I like it, simple and straightforward. 7 rounds is enough for self defense and only a last resort if ever needed. Beautiful Gun.
Thanks for your response
7 rounds??? 😂
I am enjoying my P10M. I had it milled for optic because I like it easy to aim.
It's really comfortable, easy to hold, and easy to shoot compared to its competitors.
But I'm waiting for a 10 rd capacity version.
Current opinions on the P10M?
10rd extended base pad ua-cam.com/video/nJHojJ0i7X0/v-deo.html
@@Catgat37 Still have it and is also my EDC. At 5 yards, I have really good groupings. Did you get yours?
@@VB6000. I ran a couple hundred rounds through it, wasn't that impressed. Recently bought a Walther PPS M2 and it is a great shooter.
@@Catgat37 what didn’t you like about P10M?
Ive been staring pretty hard at a Canik MC9. I'll have to look for a comparison video.
I want to love the P-10 M, especially for the price. These micro compact guns, no matter the model, have so many compromises in the name of smallness that its hard to justify $500-$800 for the 43x, Hellcat, Shield, 365, HK etc. So at $250 it makes those compromises easy to accept. The 7+1 capacity has been belabored here, and for good reason. But my main concern is not having a slide release. When every other semiautomatic pistol you shoot has one, I would hate to be in a self defense scenario and for whatever reason the slide is locked back and my muscle memory has me looking for the slide release. I know, train train train. But unless this is the only gun you're going to shoot, training will not suffice for peace of mind. Add a nice little slide release and IDGAF about the 7+1!
I hope your training also includes clearing malfunctions. Which would involve pulling the slide back. In a self defense scenario, thinking you have a round chambered when your thumb has accidentally hit the slide release could be fatal. That don't happen with this handgun.
I always rack my slide on reloads so inon issue but I feel yah
A good looking gun.
Good, thx
Great gun and if u feel as though u need more shots they do have a plus 3 extension🙌🏽
Where can you get the extension?
@@quinnkaspar7314 CZ Custom.
Love cz but this was a miss for me with other micros @10 minimum hopefully it’s like the shield before the shield plus
Bravo! CZ , I got that this time.
I picked one up for 265. It’s a great pistol for the price. I don’t need more rounds…it’s practical and accurate for its size. I move had hellcats and others but they are too much for what you get imo.
Hyve industries plus 3 base plate . I got mine today fits great
The sights are photoluminescent , only downside is in a iwb holster with a shirt on in the sunlight only the rear sights glow in the dark. Otherwise if both sights get direct light for even 1 minute they glow for more than a few minutes in the dark.
I see this gun get a hate because of its capacity. It gets compared to the P365, Hellcat, etc. Its a single stack. I don't think its made to compete with the high capacity micro 9mm's. I think its a great gun but the masses do not seem to agree. Plus the lack of aftermarket holsters and accessories is abysmal which I am sure is due to lack of sales of popularity of it.
In my opinion its built is better than a G43. I personally love it. I think it is just hard for it when the market is saturated with high capacity micro's. Fair enough sure. But some of us like single stacks for various reasons.
You might as well just get a Ruger LC9s/EC9s if thats all the capacity you are getting.
If you carry in your pocket either one would work
Cz quality for Taurus price Glock 43 size what’s not to like
Can I ask you for an off-the-cuff “if I could only have one” between this and the Glock 43? I can’t rent them to try before I buy, so it’s just a matter of what feels good in the hand, and my shop has them both priced under $350 (blue label pricing). Any tie breaker you’d offer between the two?
GX4 is a better buy or P365(paid $499 plus 3mags, 20rds and night sight).
Thanks for video, like that holster as well could you write exact model?
Imo people didn't understand P10M well, it's a single stack slim supercompact compared with G43 or Springfield XD-S line, not Hellcat/365.
Love that sleek design without receiver catch/disassembly lever, grip, design, sights, but I don't like trigger - need lot of practice ☹️ (hammered P07 is so different story).
I just bought my P10m and am on the verge of trading it for an P10S due to that trigger. Does this trigger ever lighten up? It's got to be 7-8 lbs! Unacceptable.
@@teller1290 That heavy trigger is there for reason. Yes it's not that comfortable that's why I prefer hammered P07.
@@diwiak or P10c or P-10s. Only the one I buy is f'd up.
Hopefully the make a 3.75 inch barrel with a 15+1 under 5 inches in height with a 1.1 inch grip
I got mine this past weekend and got plus 3 base plate . Too cheap to pass up and it’s a cz . I need to shoot a lot more to break that trigger in
Love CZ but need to catch up with sig and s&w on capacity
Hyve technologies has plus two base plate . It makes a big difference
Don't forget about the OG CZ Rami.
Love my RAMI, too bad they discontinued it! But I just ordered one of these $284 including shipping and tax. This will be my first CZ polymer handgun. Yes a holster is my concern I prefer OWB leather. Love Wright Leather Works but they do not list this model as an option.
Love my p10 m, i do carry an extra magazine, capacity it is not a problem, if I feel that capacity is an issue I wil probably take my p10 f, 21 + 1, just kidding, that one is for home defense, excellent little shooter probably not for everyone
Is it worth the 250 doll hairs it’s at palmetto state??
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This is a nice pistol,, but that hellcat is awesome…and I don’t understand why c z doesn’t offer extended mags for more rounds and it helps with keeping your pinky finger on while gripping. Cmon c z, make extended mags please.
Good afternoon, would you be able to specify where you got the conceal carry holster from? I checked online and I can't find the same one that you have on this video that would be perfect for my CZ 10m as well. Could you perhaps post a link or anything that would help narrow down my search? Thank you so much
G43 holster geared towards a specific light fits perfect for me. Might have to loosen the retention ever so slightly.
It’s the DeSantis Tuck-This II but for the Glock 43.
Anybody know if glock 43 holsters are compatible with the cz p10m?
Looks like a great budget option, and it sure is beautiful.
But there are just too many guns in the same profile with better capacity. Sure, you can claim the "3 shots 3 yards" nonsense, but I've watched a defensive use of a firearm once a day for 10 years, and almost all of them involve the defender emptying their gun, maybe injuring someone, and then relying on the "run from bullets" factor to keep them safe.
Having been in a defensive situation myself, I thought I shot 3 times, but I was 8 rounds down when I checked. Being empty and hoping that there are no angry, isolated, or injured and armed people around is not my idea of a good time.
In an age where you can have 12 rounds in your front pocket or 16 comfortably in an appendix, I see no reason to carry what is effectively a mag-fed revolver.
With that said, I like the gun and plan on owning one.
is there possibly a link to that holster? i cant seem to find it. Thanks!
It’s the DeSantis Tuck-This II but for the Glock 43.
Does this have last shot hold open without the slide stop??
Yes.
link for the holster?
What is up with the capacity? Is this thing supposed to compete with the XD-S?
I guess that depends. If capacity is most important to you, then probably not.
It reminds me of the walther pps m2 no rail, no night sights, limited capacity (8+1) no external safety option, and the only laser option is one from crimson trace which is over $300! so yeah just a very bad and outdated firearm imo
Unfortunately it was designed about 10 years too late. This gun would have done great for a concealed carry gun back when the CC market was dominated by the Glock 26, 43, S&W Shield and the Sig P238 and single stack 9's were more common place for deep conceal. Nowadays this gun really only would make waves as a back up or maybe in states still requiring less than 10 round capacity.
Can you pocket carry with a sticky holster?
Yes. It’s one of their designed purposes.
Does the absence of a firing pin block concern you?
Not really. I'm all for safety features on a gun, but I think situational awareness is the thing that keeps you out of harm's way. Just my opinion.
The usual safety trio in striker pistols are blade on the trigger to eliminate inertial risk in a drop, firing pin block in the way until trigger is pulled fully to the rear, and half-cock (not fully tensioned) striker spring. It's a pretty good trio of fail safes for drop safety, so I would want to know CZ's thinking if they left out the firing pin block, especially if they fully cock the striker spring.
Can the P10m fit a Glock 43 holster??
Not likely in a fitted Kydex holster but more likely in non-fitted one like the DeSantis he used or Muddy River Tactical.
The trigger's problem isn't travel. The problem with it is the trigger is WAYYY to heavy, unlike model c.
This was my experience at first as well. After about 750-1000 rounds the trigger is much better. I truly didn’t like the pistol at first and almost got rid of it. Stuck with it and it has become much better. I do like my p10c trigger much better though.
What model desantis holster is that?
Tuck-This II but for the Glock 43.
I’m a CZ fan but this one is definitely behind the competition. It would’ve been great 10 years ago
This was a big miss for me. Two trips to the range were enough. It is gone from my collection. Love CZ but this was not for me. Thank you for the video.
I have heard several people comment on the capacity as an issue. I thought it was an okay carry gun - certainly not as smooth as CZs hammer-fired options for sure. Thanks for watching!
@@TheConcealedCarryChannel capacity was not an issue for me at all. I actually think it’s a very well-built gun. But that trigger… ugh. Just not for me. In my opinion, it would’ve been a home run if it had a similar trigger to the P10C. I do love my P10c and P10F.
I’ve only dry fired the P10M and P10C. I wonder why they didn’t use the same trigger system?
@@akorz6981 not true, this is an internet myth.
@@MDpolo no chance the trigger softens with use?
Fact is that if 7+1 dont put the bad person down.. its time to bring in the bazooka.
Problem is..this isnt even 7+1 done well
True . You gotta make your rounds count . It’s a snappy shooter so just aim a littler lower
Is it really pocketable?
I just had one in a Sticky at my gun shop, and it fit. And the Sticky was a size too big, too.
It's a CZ Nano
I didn't hear/see anything that would attract me to this pistol over my G43 other than the rail. The Glock has tons of aftermarket parts and assessors. Additionally you can totally disassemble every part of a Glock easily with a punch and replace parts yourself. I can understand folks going for the Hellcat, 365, Shield Plus over the G43 but not this CZ.
That is probably the biggest seller for Glocks is the accessories and changing parts . Honestly imo if I have to change parts and add accessories to a gun to make it an EDC gun then I shouldn’t be carrying it . But everyone has their opinion
Grip for 2 fingers? I DO NOT LIKE AT ALL. (Should have included a finger rest base plate. I prefer a 3.2" barrel
Everyone can't afford both a home defense and a concealed carry firearm. So they need a firearm they can serve as both. And the Glock 19 is too big. Three rounds is no longer enough to scare off Attackers. Because you have multiple people attacking you now and they're all armed. When they do home invasions, it's three or four people coming in and they're armed? So capacity is a big deal now. A hellcat. You can carry 14 rounds. And a backup 15 round magazine. and put a light on it for Home defense. As far as this CZ. It looks nice, but no slide release and capacity Is a problem for me. But to each his own.
CZ P-10s is a fantastic size for carry with 12 plus one, and I can use P-10f mags for 19+1 whenever I want. Plus it's soooo much more comfortable in my hands than a Hellcat and doesn't give money to Springfield.
It’s probably made for more pocket carry the anything . I just looked at one today . I liked what I saw and the way it felt
slide release isn't detrimental to anything ever and most manufacturerswant you to fully pull the slide. the capacity however could be a problem for statistically large home invasions
It shoots really flat. Flatter than P365XL. But trigger is one big tragedy - so heavy. I thought absence of firing pin block will improve the trigger but not in this case. There is no reason to buy this gun in 2022.
Too many other micro options that are superior. I would never buy that model!
I own a CZ P10c and would buy the CZ P10s over the M!
That is until you compare it to the Shield Plus. Which has almost the same dimensions but holds 10 rounds flush and 13 extended.
Basically CZ is doing what the original Shield did 10 years ago.
I love cz, but this one was a huge failure for when it came out. Especially when compared to it’s competition. No features, no night sights, no optic cut, not enough texture for that small of a grip, no slide stop/release, and lowest capacity in its class. Imo they should discontinue this and bring back the Rami. For the price of this, I could get an optic ready shield plus with almost double the capacity, and night sights.
It’s a budget carry CZ gun what are you talking about? Plenty of texture for the small grip, actually very aggressive texture in the front and back. Great serrations on the slide. It’s a single stack, meant to be slimmer and lighter not higher capacity. People that need 10+ for concealed carry don’t practice shooting. It’s not supposed to have a slide stop, it’s supposed to be snag free. Also a better trigger than most small CCWs. You act like you’re talking about a 600$ gun or something.
@@Questionnaireapologeticsyou act like this isn’t a 10 month old comment and the P10M wasn’t closer to $500 when I wrote it. It’s still just a CZ version of the G43 with no controls released 5 years later. Decent backup pocket carry, other than that there’s not much point and much better options with more features, better triggers and higher capacity.
Rami 2.0 would be 💣
@@michaelsweaney3890 slimmed down optic ready Rami would be a perfect carry gun imo
@@Questionnaireapologeticsthe gun is trash get over it
Sticking to Glock.no reason to change since 100% failure proof. 👍
That hellcat just looks stupid
cz screws up again.