Yes! This stuff needs to be discussed much more. I teach guitar, piano, and regularly play those as well as drums, and I've found countless times the art of practice must continually be lived, demonstrated, and thoroughly demystified by teachers.
Although I do play keyboards too I usually apply what y’all teach to concert harp. The nature of the pedal harp makes the approach to borrowed tones a bit of a different consideration. I was one of the thousands of students of Dan Haerle at UNT Denton, Tx I dig the show!
Can you at some point address the role of harmonic analysis in practice? I've found that practicing a tune by identifying chord functions (for example secondary dominants) and chord progressions, like 2-5-1s, along with being aware of modulations to different key centers, are so helpful in making my practice meaningful. So many beginning students of jazz piano focus on practicing a song without that analysis, hoping to memorize chords and melody just by repeatedly playing...and that makes no sense to me.
Harmonic analysis can be useful in figuring out how to navigate through a tune but don't fall into the trap of theory paralysis/worship. IMO you should derive more meaning from practice than understanding/navigating harmony. What about your rhythm, lyricism etc.
There is something to be said for this, but I always found that you do that a bit when first learning a tune, and then it is kind of just there when you go back, and then it is more about "hearing" your way through the tune and internalizing the sound so you don't find yourself thinking analytically as you play (which for me results in better-more melodic, more organic-playing).
Yes, but do it by ear. For sure know the key of a tune, the other keys it goes to, and what it uses in each key (I VI II V, II V I, IVm, V of the minor, etc). Sing the bassline!
@@jpgcomposer Yes...the analysis is the first (and for me, essential) step that helps me know what I am hearing. And then I can internalize it with more understanding.
Brilliant video, gents .... I'm involved in an online heavy metal guitar academy that pushes THIS EXACT THING. Oh and thanks for that gem about shutting off the metronome randomly within the piece being practiced ..... really concentrates the mind and tests that internalization of the beat.
The Steph Curry practice routine analogy is a lot of fun. One thing that he practices that is an incredibly difficult skill to acquire (even for pros) is the quick release shot. There is also a ton of hand independence in his warmup like when he dribbles a basketball and a tennis ball simultaneously
You can have musical growth while dreaming. It's not something to rely on, as the primary driver of growth, but it can be very supplemental. And you'll want practice time with a control (metronome, beat etc), with recording and listening back, otherwise it's hard to know whether there's been any improvement, IME.
Also, at least personally, musical practice or playing out dreams happen mostly when I'm playing/practicing while awake. I didn't mean to imply that you could substitute waking practice with dream practice. Maybe if you're a lizard person... IDK about that, but for normal people, dream practice seems to be a relatively rare occurence, and appears out of familiar daytime habits. It's not like running a langiage learning program in a speaker under your pillow at night. It's more like taking a language class during the day, and at night, you dream of speaking in that language, and at the next class, the teacher says, "You're accent's way better somehow. Did you dream you were in France?!" That dream experience doesn't happen without those day classes. That's what I meant by "supplemental", TBC.
If I remember correctly, Toby Driver wrote a lot of his music while lucid dreaming, including the bulk of the "Part the Second" album. I think it might have been something he picked up from his teacher Yusef Lateef, but I'm not sure about that. Although of course you don't have to lucid dream. A lot of memory formation is done through sleep.
Would you describe it at working while sleeping or being a witness of your brain rearanging information while sleeping ? Is there agency/what feels like agency or is it more observing the process unfold ?
Hi guys, love what you do! Double time iOS metronome lets the user double the click interval with a button push.Start out on two and four , end with one click every16 bars. (Or more)Invented by a student of Amy Whitside, a jazz player,don’t remember his name. Cheap.. Cheers from Seattle!
This is so relevant to where I am now I feel personally attacked!!! I haven't practiced for weeks because I just got bored with my routine. I'm going to take some time to think about what I suck at and just focus on those things. I already know what they are very well because I constantly avoid them lol.
I just wanted to highlight that this is the first time I've seen a swear word in these (9m15s), and now I truly feel we're speaking the same language. More french and less professionalism, please! And great video as always! Though I don't think it even needs to be said. It's a _You'll Hear It_ video; was there any doubt!?
Not trying to sound like a dick, but running around in circles with that verbose wordwordwordy basketball analogy had an inverse effect on the listener (or at least myself) and only convoluted the rather straightforward point you were attempting to express. Again, I hope this critique isn’t misconstrued as being ill-willed or malevolent because that is contrary to my disposition.
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Yes! This stuff needs to be discussed much more. I teach guitar, piano, and regularly play those as well as drums, and I've found countless times the art of practice must continually be lived, demonstrated, and thoroughly demystified by teachers.
Best band meeting ever before practice. It keeps me centered. I pledge to live a musical life.
Although I do play keyboards too I usually apply what y’all teach to concert harp.
The nature of the pedal harp makes the approach to borrowed tones a bit of a different consideration.
I was one of the thousands of students of Dan Haerle at UNT Denton, Tx
I dig the show!
Killer intro as always!
Just cookin'!
Yay! A new podcast by two of my favorite pianists.
The Curry Feedback Loop Variable! I needed to hear that today - it's useful for any field of practice!! #GrowrhMindset
You CAN’T CHANGE what you DON'T TRACK!
For me this translates to:
You CAN CHANGE what you DO TRACK
Season of Rest!
8:35 I feel very called out right now
Yeah, mine is Bb blues, LOL!
Can you at some point address the role of harmonic analysis in practice? I've found that practicing a tune by identifying chord functions (for example secondary dominants) and chord progressions, like 2-5-1s, along with being aware of modulations to different key centers, are so helpful in making my practice meaningful. So many beginning students of jazz piano focus on practicing a song without that analysis, hoping to memorize chords and melody just by repeatedly playing...and that makes no sense to me.
Harmonic analysis can be useful in figuring out how to navigate through a tune but don't fall into the trap of theory paralysis/worship. IMO you should derive more meaning from practice than understanding/navigating harmony. What about your rhythm, lyricism etc.
There is something to be said for this, but I always found that you do that a bit when first learning a tune, and then it is kind of just there when you go back, and then it is more about "hearing" your way through the tune and internalizing the sound so you don't find yourself thinking analytically as you play (which for me results in better-more melodic, more organic-playing).
Yes, but do it by ear. For sure know the key of a tune, the other keys it goes to, and what it uses in each key (I VI II V, II V I, IVm, V of the minor, etc). Sing the bassline!
@@future62 I agree, but studying analysis doesn't preclude studying the important things you mentioned as well.
@@jpgcomposer Yes...the analysis is the first (and for me, essential) step that helps me know what I am hearing. And then I can internalize it with more understanding.
Brilliant video, gents .... I'm involved in an online heavy metal guitar academy that pushes THIS EXACT THING.
Oh and thanks for that gem about shutting off the metronome randomly within the piece being practiced ..... really concentrates the mind and tests that internalization of the beat.
Craziest intro jam I’ve heard in a while. Amazing.
The Steph Curry practice routine analogy is a lot of fun. One thing that he practices that is an incredibly difficult skill to acquire (even for pros) is the quick release shot. There is also a ton of hand independence in his warmup like when he dribbles a basketball and a tennis ball simultaneously
so much wisdom in this episode! you guys rock.
You can have musical growth while dreaming. It's not something to rely on, as the primary driver of growth, but it can be very supplemental. And you'll want practice time with a control (metronome, beat etc), with recording and listening back, otherwise it's hard to know whether there's been any improvement, IME.
Also, at least personally, musical practice or playing out dreams happen mostly when I'm playing/practicing while awake. I didn't mean to imply that you could substitute waking practice with dream practice. Maybe if you're a lizard person... IDK about that, but for normal people, dream practice seems to be a relatively rare occurence, and appears out of familiar daytime habits. It's not like running a langiage learning program in a speaker under your pillow at night. It's more like taking a language class during the day, and at night, you dream of speaking in that language, and at the next class, the teacher says, "You're accent's way better somehow. Did you dream you were in France?!"
That dream experience doesn't happen without those day classes. That's what I meant by "supplemental", TBC.
If I remember correctly, Toby Driver wrote a lot of his music while lucid dreaming, including the bulk of the "Part the Second" album. I think it might have been something he picked up from his teacher Yusef Lateef, but I'm not sure about that.
Although of course you don't have to lucid dream. A lot of memory formation is done through sleep.
Would you describe it at working while sleeping or being a witness of your brain rearanging information while sleeping ? Is there agency/what feels like agency or is it more observing the process unfold ?
The PDFs you guys post are helpful, it takes time and repetition to learn. At least for me.
You guys are the funniest musicians I know.😂😂
Hi guys, love what you do! Double time iOS metronome lets the user double the click interval with a button push.Start out on two and four , end with one click every16 bars. (Or more)Invented by a student of Amy Whitside, a jazz player,don’t remember his name. Cheap..
Cheers from Seattle!
This is so relevant to where I am now I feel personally attacked!!! I haven't practiced for weeks because I just got bored with my routine. I'm going to take some time to think about what I suck at and just focus on those things. I already know what they are very well because I constantly avoid them lol.
The intro! Wao
Killer session.
Thanks for this, fellas.
Swinging your "you know whats off" in that intro. Thank you gents. 👏🏽
Peter Martin is a bad mofo! That solo he played on the blues at the beginning of this vid was killing!
Oh boy, best intro yet
Love the electric and acoustic mix.
bring back the mustache dawg
16:19 sponsored by WhiteClaw hard seltzer!
Sweet swingin' gents
We need to hear the I have hip relatives song.
@14:55 "Am I rushing, or am I dragging?"
I'm upset!!!
I wish I was traditional taught piano. I have been playing gospel only in C# for 3 years 😢
Gala apples
0:42
gala
so you're saying i shouldn't have been practicing the extended blues over and over for the last ten years?
I just wanted to highlight that this is the first time I've seen a swear word in these (9m15s), and now I truly feel we're speaking the same language.
More french and less professionalism, please!
And great video as always! Though I don't think it even needs to be said. It's a _You'll Hear It_ video; was there any doubt!?
White Claw?? Is this product placement?
at 15:00
@@stickhoops no, that's a truck
johnny brahams recommends learning written pieces backwards
Not only am I GALA! Not only am I DIE HARD! Left and right hand are doin’ the same thing, B%^#Z!!! 🥳🔥🙌🏽💖😎👍🏽
So what you're trying to say is "Live Your Wave"
Because the fundamental loneliness goes when two can dream a dream together
Not trying to sound like a dick, but running around in circles with that verbose wordwordwordy basketball analogy had an inverse effect on the listener (or at least myself) and only convoluted the rather straightforward point you were attempting to express.
Again, I hope this critique isn’t misconstrued as being ill-willed or malevolent because that is contrary to my disposition.