Salisbury Axle Part 1 tools and equipment
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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I’m glad you are doing this project. I have one of their ATBs for my Salisbury, having already built up a Rover diff with their smaller ATB. The added difficulty comes from using 4.1:1 gears - the front gears are KAM Diffs, and despite it being my first diff full build, I got a good pattern using the casing’s original pinion shims (adding and removing a small thickness just to see if I could improve the pattern).
The rear gears are from a US vehicle Dana 60, bought used from a US diff specialist. I think they came from a Ford truck, and the pinion is 10 spline, so I’m hoping a Salisbury flange will fit it. The pinion outer bearing internal diameter (adjacent to the flange) is much smaller than on the LR pinions, so I’ll get a sleeve made up to allow standard LR bearing kits. Setting that up from scratch with D60 gears into a Salisbury is going to be very interesting.
I did swap 109 and 110 diffs a few times, which transpired to be simple - they always needed the casings’ original pinion shims left alone and the carrier shims unchanged, regardless of which carrier went into either casing. Got a good pattern every time. But with an aftermarket carrier with no shims, it’s a lot more work. I did read a procedure where you use dummy bearings on the carrier (like yours) with no shims and fit that to the case without the pinion and the measure endfloat. Add 5thou for the total shims and add those to the pinion side of the carrier (max backlash). Once the pinion has been set at the correct depth, there is a formula for converting the amount of backlash into how much shim thickness to transfer to the other side. If you can find that, it’ll save all the trial and error.
Correct if you have the dummy bearings it is a dream of a job!
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You are probably going to fry my brain with this one Mike . ATB ..... all the best !
yes that is very helpful. I also have actual a problem with my Selly. 😂 I like you're work
Looking forwards to this very much😀
Hope you enjoy it!
always do shimming when wife is out , and preferably just before long weekends , so you have some time to calculate the correct shimms and time to order the only one you don't have for delivery on next long weekend...:))
IF you keep the old shims and mark them for the left and right sides of the diff, then with replacement Timkin bearings the settings will not change
However on the ATB, we are not 100% the machining is the same as the Salisbury differential - part 2 will clear this up
Hi Mike, I think you and JP need to make up some kits with all the special tools for doing diffs and gearboxes etc to sell in your shop!
Problem is the time it takes to make them - material costs a minimum - I learned my lesson with the brake caliper tool - everyone wanted one - we made 40 and still have 12 left after 18 months
I'm sticking around. Everyone just needs a JP, a Mike and jobsagoodin. Looking forward to seeing it go back together. Not been on the email lately as busy with the business but no doubt be in touch soon.
That's OK ! I finally got the D2 up and running - job was so soul destroying and back aching I scrubbed the videos - too much cussing!
@@BritannicaRestorations Wouldn't have f&cking bothered me. Glad to hear you got the D2 running though. It's been a proper pain.
Don't waste your time tying to get under the carrier bearings to get them off. Break off the roller cage and then you can put your puller under the top lip of the inner race.
Should be very interesting.
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Hi Mike any chance you can share your spreeder drawings
I would love to make one
Thanks
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Hello mike i have an issue with my salisbury axle pushing my short half shaft outwards through the drive flange ...im on my third set of half shafts and flanges this year ..help !!
Never seen that before - would be keen on looking at the diff itself - the shafts are fully floating, and have no reason to pop out
Always use the proper tools. You can make a huge mess trying to cheap out on the right tools. Rent them if you don’t want to buy.
Dummy bearings are a must on these jobs, if you lose the original shims
Would it be possible to purchase a Salisbury axle with an ATB and get it shipped to Norway?? If possible I am VERY interested. Ps. I love your videos. Thx!
Not from me - Salisbury are very rare here and Ashcroft only sell the ATB - no other parts
I hear you. :) I'll talk to Ashcroft about getting one for my Salisbury. And best practice of getting it fitted to my axle. :) keep up the good work!
I have just posted the technical drawing of the dummy bearings you need to make for easy shimming for the differential!
britrest.com/product/salisbury-differential-dummy-bearing-drawing-free-download/
For some reason I didn't think an ATB in Salisbury was an option. I thought it was a Detroit trutrack. Cheers
Trutrac and Quaife ATBs for the Salisbury have been around for a while, but it is a pretty new product for Ashcroft - I think it was around October or November 2022 that they went on sale. I got one late last year, having waited for their release for about two years.
@@nickboylen6873 cheers. All good I assume?
@@mrtablet4662 I haven’t had the chance to fit it yet as I am living overseas and away from my LR, but it was well packaged and looks good. It is pretty heavy, so seems to be strong. I suspect that like the Ashcroft ATBs for Rover diffs, it is a copy of the Quaife unit, which would be very good indeed. The Ashcroft Rover ATBs have a good reputation.
Just to add the ATB in the LT230 is great! Drive line clunking is greatly reduced and do you need a diff lock now? Very hard to say
@@BritannicaRestorations worth using difflock in very bad conditions, but it probably wouldn’t be needed in moderate conditions. Ashcroft would probably corner the market if they could make a lockable ATB for the axles, like the LT230.
What the fu..k is an atb?
I've seen several videos identifying this
It's extremely frustrating to watch something you don't identify with
ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/product/salisbury-atb/
@@BritannicaRestorations Thanks for the ashcroft link . Now my grey matter is going critical !!! Lovely things to use in the dirt then !
Yes - hardly need the diff lock, and eliminates a lot of clunk in the driveline