Electric Heavy-duty Truck Test Drive - Freightliner eCascadia
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- At a press event prior to CES, Daimler Trucks North America put editors behind the wheels of its electric vehicle lineup, including the Class 8 eCascadia truck, EM2 medium-duty truck, FUSO eCanter Class 4 truck and Thomas Built Bus electric school bus. Check out this test drive of the Class 8 Freightliner eCascadia electric truck.
If I could get 600 miles range and there were places to charge it overnight, I would 100% buy one.
overnight? 30 mins.... :)
Unreal! The leaps and bounds for electric vehicles is starting to look up! Like it or hate it eventually this will happen with everything.
Once we can find a way to prevent batteries from degrading over time, and charge to 100% in the same time it takes to fill a gas/diesel tank they definitely will
@@zacharybishop6595bingo. The key is R&D which requires funding, in the form of investments and people buying electric vehicles when the technology is still young and not as refined. Eventually the batteries won’t just be faster to charge and longer lasting, but also smaller, cheaper, and safer. I give it til 2035 at the latest before electric vehicles become more practical for the everyday consumer than ICE vehicles
These E trucks are great for local driving I'd say! Maybe small regional trucking as well
Imagine 50 years from now if kids are watching something like SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT and are living in a world of near-silent trucks, they'll scratch their heads as to why the trucks (and cars) are so noisy.
haha true
I would tell them Those were vehicles we use to drive back in the days
As a heavy wrecker operator when automatics became more popular, accidents increased. I can see more incidents with an electric vehicle because just like when automatics came out there was a decrease by drivers mentally that they we hauling 80,000lbs. I seen this not so much in tractor trailers but in tri-axle dump trucks. I'm curious to see what the future holds for these e trucks. Nice truck.
Yeah I started working for a company will all auto transmission and they went and bought manual transmission trucks to start replacing the auto trans. We haul 63000kg most of the time in the mountains and that auto is very hard to hook and unhook. The Trans only slips so much then bam it engages the clutch and screws you everytime. Having a robot shifting the Trans works pretty well but you have to have a real clutch for low speed hook and unhook and for smooth taking off.
Same with Tesla's Full Self Driving claim. On second car now and since 2015 even basic divided highway autopilot has deteriorated, now pensioners flock to the brand and die in senseless accidents believing FSD will take them from Tampa to NYC while browsing on their phones.
The way forward, for all trucks.
only if you put four more batteries in the trailer. for a thousand miles between charges. and a charger for each battery. keeping charge time to two to three hours. then you've got something.
@@irri3191
I'm no Mechanic/engineer, but that makes sense to me.
It reminds me of how many steam era locomotives had a carriage called a tender (carried lots of coal and water) for longer travels.
They would also need to upgrade truck stops to allow trucks to charge the batteries like fuel stations currently allow trucks to fill up on diesel.
Exactly. I hate how obnoxiously loud the current semi trucks are. Ughh!!!
Gay
1:34 wrong horn, man!
This was 4 years ago?! Why haven't i seen anything more about this truck?
Thank you for the heads-up
Freightshaker without a doubt
Full loaded too. Ive read they did have a 30,000 lbs load on the truck during testing.
Fully loaded is not 30k
@@svengurglani1532the battery alone weighs over 10k so 30 000 lbs payload is pretty much a full load
Like to see REAL TESTING, climbing with 45000 pound trailer on I70 from Denver to Eisenhower Tunnel; I80 on Donner Pass and Parsley Summit, I15 after Vegas to California, I15 on Cajon Pass and I5 on Tejón Pasa. Then we'll talk
Waiting for this too 🤔
Exactly. Talking about range and throwing out a number is absolutely meaningless. Range will vary greatly depending on many variables including weight, terrain, average speed, and the amount of stop and go traffic encountered. If it's 250 miles on flat ground with a moderate load at an optimum, constant speed, those grades you mentioned and countless others like them in the US could drag the range down into the double digits. Starting out in San Bernardino and having to stop and recharge in Barstow wouldn't cut it. I'm guessing these units will be limited to relatively short, preplanned local routes until if and when the technology improves greatly.
I'd like to see ice &wet for weather performance on any of these trucks and not only take-offs like they are made for race on a straight line...
At last I won’t hear trucks going down my road going GRRRRGRRGRRRGG at 5am😂
Could a solar panel be added in the cab roof to charge whilst driving,especially in US southwest & California?
I love how quiet it is.
NC Styles why are you gay
Haulin Class74 I like comfort. These trucks are loud for no good reason. I want a truck that doesn’t drive like it weights 80K pounds, smooth & quiet.
NC Styles you sound like a car 🚗 driver with that attitude
Haulin Class74 Thats the point. I want to feel like I’m driving a luxury vehicle. We also spend weeks in that truck. I want to be comfortable not miserable in it. (PS. Mercedes owns Freightliner)
@with your definitely gay. If you don’t want loud like it’s been since the first semi was invented then don’t be a truck driver. Companies are buying cheap ass fleet trucks you think the engines silent wait till the dash and panels start creaking and squeaking your gonna wish the engine drowned those noises out lmfao
It's so quiet, wow!
If everything goes electric, then the demand on the grid goes way up, up here all the environmentalist are wanting all the dams on the rivers that produce hydro electric power taken out, they don't want nuclear or coal fired power plants, how are you going to charge them?
western truck and tractor repair since the oil/Gas usages will go down dramatically it wouldn’t be too expensive to burn some oil to create electricity. Obviously not the most officiant way to make it but it’s a help Incase our power grid do becomes strain.
wind and solar
first demand for electricity always goes up. second it's called wind solar geothermal, and battery, hydrogen, or hydro storage. "fusion" if we ever get there. everything gets upgraded. technology doesn't stop. or as my aunt would say don't worry your pretty little head.
I think someone may solve that problem by linking kinetic motors to the axles so that the truck can generate their own power.
John Chartrand do you even know wha Solar and wind machines are made of?
Sweet.. Nice and quiet and smooth.. 👍
How do the air tanks fill up? Is it like a compressor or something?
This truck is still in prototype stage. Did they mention when it will go into full production?
You can order now. They already got an order of 800 eCascadia from Sysco. Some of the 800 trucks will be delivered this year.
Wrong camera angle...A-pillar is blocking the view.
Would there be enough space somewhere to add like a 2.0L diesel gas generator to extend the range? I'm not a truck driver but the tech is awesome
Defeats the purpose real long range will come from Hydrogen fuel cells.
The point is to be 0 carbon
@@ricardorivera3909 there will never be a zero carbon solution
Lol, already broken sensor.. Here's the thing though.. What is the unladen weight?
Quiet ? I still can hear Electric Motor Whine though ? and no , it's not bothering to me though ...
Electricians will never be unemployed.
That’s why i Am going to be one
I need one today.
I don't like that it is a question whether it's on or not and "not feeling the weight" doesn't seem like a good thing.
Does it shake?
I don't know if he was turning to the right but it looks like the front end alignment is off
Where is the eCascadia being assembled?
Just WOW!!! Why would anyone want to drive anything else?
as range is increased, these will quickly gain ground even on over the road routes
Well, that was fascinating...
Nice Truck freightliner is the best Truck!!!
how many ton,s can move ?
Same as typical Cascadia Class 8. This one was fully loaded up just below 80,000 lbs., if I recall correctly.
Actually, i take that back. Total weight was around 80,000. They still weren't saying how much weight the batteries made up vs. payload. But there's no engine so you lose that weight. Still a lot of questions surrounding electric Class 8.
35
@@RamKumar-es8fe before dying and never resurecting
34 000 lbs
Is there any Driver's Manual online for this nice truck?
I like it but how long does the battery last? And is it gonna be easy to find a place to charge on the road though? And does it mean whatever you use inside of the truck (microwave, tv, plugs to charge electronics, fridge etc.) using the same electric power? If so, this can be a little bit of an issue.
Rest assured, if you’re wondering about those issues, that it was covered in Week 1 of the design phase by engineers steeped in knowledge. Biden is trying to implement funding for the infrastructure to support electric vehicles.
The chatter while they did the testdrive said the vehicle was intended to be used for predefined routes, suggesting such concerns would be addressed by preplanning the trip's route, destination and recharging actions. Basically you need to make sure the vehicle doesn't run out of juice and preplan accordingly.
looks like a normal cabin normal truck
It's just electric
The first thing I'm going to do is design me a custom flatbed trailer with built in battery pack to extend the range another 250 miles.
You will lose 10-20k pounds of haul capacity
Freddie Fennell 😭which people seem to forget about
You can haul a lawnmower then. One lawnmower.
I like the idea of putting solar panels on the roof, the full length of the trailer!!!
Sounds like an interesting concept tho whose willing to pay for setting up posts to recharge your rig. You can't put it on the side of the truck cause people would hit it. Most truck parking is over 100 parking spaces then also who's going to install them in rest areas? When the truck hits a curb would it damage the engine that's in the axle? What about parts when the truck gets hit? Hell if companies go for this then our clocks have to be redone to compensate for this. Also how much is it going to be to recharge per kw?
will charging station can simply be place next to or close to regular diesel pump station. It’s widely known that electricity is cheaper to make than gas. They put this at ever trucking station in America and look out for the ones who are beyond there range it should all work out fine.
What I think would be neat is if someone made one with kinetic motors linked to the axles to generate power, then there would be almost no concerns regarding range since the truck would be generating it's own power.
@@DMTruckSpotting Regen on braking is about the best you can do in that matter
My job has one of the prototype trucks, they look so good in person but confusing
Typical freightliner rattles, dash falls apart, door panels, handles, windows. Junk. Looks nice for the first year.
They need to improve in the rattling & tire noise. I want a full screen dashboard. Including the A/C controls. The only physical parts should be the air brakes for safety. Also improve the range to 700 miles at least. So a driver can get a full day of use. At the end of his shift. He can charge it!
Actually you want certain controls to be tactile.
You don’t always wanna be looking down at a screen, and chance taking your eyes off the road.
Just to change the a/c, lights, radio functions & various other ones that control the environment outside the car, & inside.
Until we have tactile touch screens, the physical buttons are superior in terms of giving the majority a tool they can use without sight, and can find by touch.
Without having to take attention away from the road.
@@combatflowarts or have it voice automated like Siri. Say “Freightliner lower temperature to 60 degrees.”
And if your team driving and you finish your miles and left withought a charge what you have to wait a whole day to charge again. It’s a nice concept in the perfect world but in real time it’s a joke
@Chordstride even dedicated routes are gonna be hard. Batteries in our cellphones tablets laptops you name it the batteries degrade within weeks of owning it. You think harsh cold weather won't affect these batteries? I could go on lol
Can you drive the Thomas ec2 school bus
I guess you will be able to charge up with what you pay for a cigarrette pack or less.
It will be taxed doubly I guess,since politicians won t have the fuel tax anymore...it is an exciting vehicle,but politicians will make it a nightmare.
Already a sensor malfunction 😔
I want one❤️
Here comes the thunder..
Do do Do do🎶
I don't like the super singles, or how spread the rear tandems are. Not a fan of all electric, given any kind of failures or batteries going weak etc. But it's definitely interesting. I much like this over the Tesla truck! xD
Pull a load already with these new trucks
Yeah, but it needs diesel noises through the speakers.
I'd rather a roaring fireplace sounds.
I am really glad I did my trucking in the 70’s and 80’s. No a/c, no power steering, 5 X 4 transmissions and a hell of a lot of fun!
Garbage. Wait till it has electrical problems or those batteries over heat and catch on fire.
cascadias are nice trucks but their mirrors suck. can never see passenger side. almost hit cars down there few times
The next upgrade from this truck will have no driver.
Long Miles is important
Bye bye big oil
HAHAHAHAHAHA LOSERO
shadowdance4666 doubt it. Range 250 miles plus a 2-3 hour charge time. Cities will starve because their food delivery is still charging 1,100 miles away.
still five years away
Feds will find a way to tax the hell out of them.. The American way. Gain on one end lose on the other.
the electricity to run the truck still comes from big oil
FoursquareT wrong. Range will be 500-600 plus and autonomous driving is less than 4 years away.
Now they just have to beat Tesla to it
They already have the good will of the trucking industry on their side. Tesla just has California on their side. I hope Freightliner can do it .
@@hesingshesobs bingo .. independent truckers will buy the brands they know, brand loyalty is very strong among them, they love their trucks. Trucking companies will buy what cost the least to operate .. and there is nothing that Tesla can do that any other major Truck OEM can't do also. Tesla's penetration in this market will be difficult, more of a marketing stunt for Tesla and some customers, IMO.
TheOther RayJ Son, semi-trucks are completely different animals compared to your puny Teslas. And no trucker worth his salt will trust a new entrant with no trucking history than an established brand like Diamler.
Tyler Davidson That is a fact!
you all are right but as long as Tesla has 30% more battery. and his batteries are going to improve with super capacitors. I'll be passing all those cascadia's down the road. but you're probably right.
What they need is an OTR truck with a diesel-electric transmission. 3 phase AC power electric motors powered by a diesel-electric transmission will give us more torque with better fuel economy and no exploding batteries to worry about.
That's what I was thinking as well, put a 3 cylinder diesel under the hood mated to a generator.
I'd rather use a small reserve of hydrogen. for when you need extra power. you get more bang for the buck. More pull for your truck
They could still power it with the straight 6 DD platform engines currently in use with a generator behind it just like a locomotive except miniaturizing the drive motors may be difficult. The current transmission already goes into e-coast mode under no load, downhill grade as detected by the IPPM module- integrated predictive powertrain module which detects grades through geographic identification. Since most class 8 trucks are 3 axle they could use the front drive axle as the regenitive type of charging as in an alternator for charging as well.
I believe Scania which is a European Lorry maker already has that. You can go 15 miles on the electric mode alone and the diesel will charge in 10 minutes back to 100%. It can also do half diesel and half electric like you mentioned.
Now try charging 2.2 million a day on a grid that cant even handle current capacity. Wind and solar and electrified everything is a pipe dream.
Electric Motor and Electric Axles. No More Drivelines! Wow! Every technician that touches these new trucks will have to be electrical engineers.(Freightliner Tech 5 yrs and going) SMH
I can’t wait love finding broken wires
Theirs obviously something in the door pocket causing the noise.
put big antipolution system on fuel/coal power plant
stephen10 exactly
Okay, Okay.
Close that f...door!!!
It’s the cabin door and yeah, it should be a simple fix that hopefully doesn’t make it to production given how much this will likely cost. Having it close against some soft pads with a bit of pressure should stop it from rattling.
If is not at least 40,000 pounds is not fully loaded trailer.
OK
I cannot wait for first accident to happen with this truck.
Too much wires.Tesla has killed a lot of car owners so far.
Now imagine what this truck will do.
I cannot wait to see that happen.
Tesla killed owners? Do you know how many people die in car accidents every year in fuel powered vehicles??? People suck at driving is the problem
Truckers will not drive that . We like our diesel engine s and our jakes breaks.
Hardly any noise. It's much quieter than the deisels. I hate those loud diesel trucks. They sound like LOUD FARTS going up and down our streets. I hope more of these electric trucks will be replacing ALL deisels. I hate diesel trucks, car, construction equipments.....
Diesel all day!!!
Another comment from someone who isn't even a truck driver
that's a problem with with no noise, you'll hear all the loose squeaking parts of a cascadia. cabinet squeaks, chair, overhead compartments etc...
@@irri3191 I think you're right about that...
Dude, you're clearly in the minority of people who are interested in trucks. We love noise and showing it off, whether it be in straight pipes or train horns (and I feel the same way). IMO though, electric trucks are a very sensible choice though due to how simple they are to maintain. Just link some kinetic motors to the axles to generate power and you'll hardly have to worry about range unless you stop driving for a while. 80-90 db noise is something people can deal with.
Very very sad , I’d still go with Diesel.
Five years from now you will be riding into the sunset
@@davidmoser3535 bet you five years from now we will still have diesels. And I mean brand new diesels. Fuel companies are more focused on investing in biofuels that pollute much less than now rather then going fully electric. Cause in the perfect world electric trucks and their charging times freight will be on the side of the road instead of moving like it has since forever
Jaja 😜 so keep paying for expensive fuel is your thing?
This is a disgrace to trucking... cant even hear it.
You are a disgrace to truckers. I guess you have not a clue how much owner operators spend on fuel cost a year!
@@Rio-fl2yp Fuck how much they spend 🤷🏽♂️ look at how much they make. Trucking is about more than fuel efficiency.
i would rather have a gas gauge over a battery gauge anyday
Cause you're not used to it. You got used to a gas gauge.
Your’re the type to roll coal
I’m 22 & new to trucking. I love technology. I welcome these trucks. All you old trucker are on your way out anyways. Lol My generation is most likely the last generation of truck drivers! 20 to 30 years from now they’ll operate without a driver in the cabin.
@@GuestUA-camUser you are so right, I guess that's why the supply chain is messed up right now and stores have been looking near empty.
😭😭how many people that are real truck drivers that will actually drive this ? I’m between....... give me your opinion truckers
There nothing like a 359 burning coil and roll on this is a joke tbh I’m 3 generation trucker and tbh if diesel ain’t burning ain’t trucker
I am truck driver and I am happy these things coming, I will be very happy to drive anything that kills Cummins as a company, they have ripped us off with their emissions trucks, 60k 3 years to maintain emissions and the guessing game maybe it’s sensor maybe it’s dpf maybe its the scr maybe it’s the egr. I cannot wait to see the death of Cummins
There's nothing like the mighty roar of a straight-piped, two-stroke Detroit and the smell of diesel in the morning!
Been trucking since 2002, I'm not interested. There are many safety concerns that happen out on the road that isn't being addressed.
Lord help us all
Why?
Nikola three is better
Looks like a pos to me no thanks I like my diesel powered engine. Good luck finding driver's to drive that. You think there a driver shortage now lol .
I'd drive it why not?
I hate electric, why can't we just start growing corn and plants etc for ethanol and biodiesel. Can't beat the internal combustion engine. Screw electric, I'll take biofuels!!! Who's with me?
Not me ! Sorry 0 0. The sooner we rid the world of all those stinking diesel trucks the better. A lack of pollution and improved air quality are the big issues here.
@@brianjohnson2033 Using biodiesel cuts down on pollution from the engine a lot. It the fossil fuels that pollute and dirty the air. When you use biofuels you cut down on the pollution close to 90 percent. Also, biofuels are renewable/ unlimited. We are going to run out of lithium one day, just like fossil fuels. So I'm going with biofuels. Thanks for your opinion though. To me, there's no replacement for displacement 😉
@@user-mt5cm5xp2o biofuel is really not sustainable or eco friendly. There is it a problem with the amount of good soil they require, that otherwise can be used to grow food, as well as all the clean water for irrigation.
@@MikeBrokenArrow In the US we have overproduction of food. Idk, I want biofuels to prevail. I acre of corn produces like 328 gallons of ethanol
@@user-mt5cm5xp2o growing biofuel ruins the soil. It also waste a lot of clean water. This technology is destined to fail. The future is electricity. Just look around you was going on. Already making trucks fueled by the electricity. How to City could be generated by the wind farms, solar panels or a multitude of other renewable energy methods.
Sound like nerds