I’m ticking close to 80 years of age and was an OTR driver for a lot of years starting in 1970. The old school drivers will definitely shy away from these trucks. Not too many O/O’s going to go this route until they are proven reliable and the charging times are better in my opinion. The driver’s position is definitely a learning curve for older drivers. Using display screens for your information is also a learning experience. I’m sure that newbie truck drivers will embrace these much better than older drivers. I used to haul loads from the Toronto Ontario area to Port Huron Michigan area daily with GVW close to 140,000 lbs. We had approximately 80,000 lbs in the 7 axle aluminum trailers we hauled. I wonder how the Tesla would handle those types of loads? Tesla likes to tease us with what may be coming and tune in for more and then you wait. Good info guys.👍👍🇨🇦
It's written through a translator. About the position of the seat and mirrors. Changing conditions, along with them quickly change and habits. Not once saw reviews of tesla drivers, as they are used to watch the situation on the screen, because there in 3d shows all road users and objects in 360 degrees. And then if such drivers have to drive a regular car, they are uncomfortable, because they can not see the whole traffic situation only through the windows and mirrors. ) I think for truck drivers such improvements are even more relevant. And solve the problem of blind spots. I'm not a truck driver, or even a passenger car driver. But more than once I've encountered blind spots playing trucker games.
We do know how the motors are arranged. The twin motor axle is the "torque" axle, for starting, and fox max output when needed. The motors have freewheels, so in steady state or low output needs, the single motor takes over for max efficiency. The changeovers are seamless to the driver.
@@AWildBardI *think* it's the back one, but My memory from the first time I heard about this was that the twin motor was the one with the freewheels, but the single motor was the torque one, which is the other way round. I don't really think it matters. I an more impressed with the way they have the whole operation so transparent and seamless.
I prefer, warts and all, genuine, no BS, anything! Loved this vid! Thank you! Electric trucking offers massive cost reductions on ALL goods transported on land. No ever increasing, volatile fuel costs, and significantly reduced maintenance costs. Cost reductions that benefit every consumer out there.
It’s all nice on paper, but the reality is there’s no way under load this is getting 1.xx plus kWh per mile. Real world range under load will be a lot less than advertised . That truck was driven Bob tail. As a former long hauler, the difference between Bob tail and under loaded trailer (42k pounds) is dramatic.
@@DiedwhilemakingwafflesThey can haul MORE than a regular one. By that I mean they can *physically* pull much more than a diesel, with better acceleration. The total permitted payload, (which is what I think you were talking about) is comparable to an equivalent truck. The 500 mile range unit weighs 23,000 pounds, leaving 59,000 for trailer and cargo.
I saw my first Cybertruck in the wild yesterday. Coming back from Manitou Springs on a back road, Highway 105 that somewhat parallels I-25, near Sedalia, Colorado, and it was wrapped in black.
This truck looks really promising! Thanks for the informative video, Kyle! I already saw them driving on the highways here in the Bay Area. One was in the Frito Lays wrap and another in the PepsiCo wrap. They look almost ethereal , just floating inches above the road surface, gliding smoothly. I really hope these EV trucks take over the supply chains of the world and bring about drastic change to pollution levels.
The Tesla Semi battery pack is 850 KWH in its present configuration. That's based on 1.7 KWH per mile and a 500 mile range. I don't know how much room there is for improving efficiency. A certain amount of energy is required to move that much mass.
Probably not a whole lot. That's in line with the battery and range estimates of competing trucks as well. There's only so aerodynamic you can make a brick.
I assume they are hoping to get that down to 800 kWh i.e. 1.6 kWh per mile.. Even a tiny improvement in efficiency gains is a lot in terms of battery size..
The drivetrain has 3 Plaid motors. 1 on the first drive axle that is permanently engaged 2 on the rear axle that only get engaged for big power delivery and regen.
Half of all tractors on the road are short route trucks. Like last mile delivery trucks, where the 300 mile range is twice as far as most delivery drivers go in a day.
This point is WAY underappreciated. The technology needed to replace about 75% of Class 8 trucks with BEV has existed for at least three years. There are some technical / administrative challenges, such as charger build out. And there's the up front cost. It's just a matter of time before BEV trucks become the norm. There's typically about a 10 year gap between technologies being developed and then reaching the consumer (or industry in this case). This technology was first developed about six or seven years ago. Just a few more years to go.
What's crazy to me as someone who has built competing EV semis is how short the Tesla Semi is. It's nearly a foot shorter than the single axle truck that I worked on and three feet shorter than the tandem truck. And it packs twice the battery capacity to boot. I've heard a lot of people talking smack about the unusual cab layout, but the packaging is actually really clever. Almost no hood, wheels on either side of the driver, and what would be a big gap between the cab and trailer is extra space for the driver and extra cargo compartments. And all that in a smaller package than the competition.
@@DanuxsyI wouldn’t hold the funeral yet. If they’re building 50k of these trucks at 850kwh a pop that’s between 700 and 800 thousand model 3’s or probably over a million compact cars they couldn’t build because they were battery constrained. The more ubiquitous and cheap lithium ion batteries get the better the business model starts to look for a semi market, battery costs are only coming down for the foreseeable future from where they are now.
@@howardj602 the leader is Volvo and they sold a little under 2000 trucks last year, we’re not really on the same page here. Volvo is also not building millions of electric sedans and compact cars right now so even though they’re doing a great job, I’ll put my money on Tesla to be able to scale this up 25x
A comment from a CDL holder, it’s a great vehicle for local or regional work, this is not a long haul truck and that’s not a real problem. I you look at the new Kenworth (PACCAR) super truck entry you will see they have adopted the Tesla Semi central driving position, really its the way of the future for hybrids and large trucks where aero will become more and more critical. Kyle, all modern semi’s are easy to drive now, gone are the days of 18 spd manuals and super 10’s, now you put the vehicle in drive and move out, many companies even lock their drivers out of any manual modes and you’re even getting e-mirrors offered directly from the manufacturer or through Mirror Eye. The real challenge will be for Tesla to work with states to get these adopted into intermodal work and regional or short haul work. That would help us introduce the trucks without having to solve the public charging problems. This technology being expanded to make hybrids more effective represents the future of class 8 over the road trucking. We won’t see it for a few years yet and there is a lot of regulation work that will need to take place between states and government to make this happen. As a driver I’d be happy to give it a try due totality to the torque, modern trucks are now often limited to 1450 ft/lbs for general applications and around 450 hp, thats why when governed it takes us so long to make a pass on the highway. These would be something many drivers would enjoy, though old school drivers will always miss the sound of a diesel engine. It’s a step forward for specific applications, and something that should be welcomed, and as long as we don’t expect more than the vehicle can provide, we won’t be disappointed 😺
I'm not so sure. The complaint from long haul drivers has been charging time. However, with potential savings over the cost of diesel, the 1+ hour spent charging the truck could be the most profitable time for the driver.
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 and Pepsi shared they did 1,074 miles in 24hrs using slipstream drivers already. 3 seperate charging sessions that day as well. They routinely had trucks doing 800-1,000+driving miles in 24hrs.
A lot of little details and big details will have to be worked out, as trucking transitions to BEV. People who want everything to stay the same will get pretty uncomfortable. But I think it's a great opportunity to revisit a lot of questions that probably should be revisited anyway.
It's again a non starter on why we need these? Electric comes from fossil fuels and the more farm lands thy destroy for"solar farms" would be ridiculous to meet 100% of the need of electrical vehicles besides we're having brown outs with non ev use. We're being told when to run our AC but it's fine to charge these trinkets. We need AC in hotter states for health reasons besides the electric needed for home health aides. (Cpap machine, oxygen care, etc) this is all distraction from companies like Tesla forcing our government through intimidation from non educated voters pushing for fake climate change green energy dependance. But will still need fossil fuels unless they force Americans to pay higher energy costs, which is what the big oil companies did with getting rid of ethanol in the 1920s by government shutdown of ALL alcohol. Farmers were running their own crops in their own machinery by raising corn.
I think it should be a law that if another semi/ vehicle is trying to pass you, you are required to let off the accelerator a bit so that they can pass you sooner. This goes for every vehicle on the road. Truckers and other drivers should work together to not block traffic... I'm pretty sure trucks are not locked into 60-65mph... so if some dummy decides they want to pass at 1mph faster, the other truck should drop their speed by at least 5mph to not cause traffic to build up.
Man, this is the most interesting review of a car cabin I’ve seen, so cool to see Apple level software and hardware made for machine operators!! However they just proved that pro-users need stalks!!! Like of course it would be hard to use touch based rotational controls to engage with critical functions, oof 😥 Best video this year.
Putting the driver's seat in the middle was really a dumb idea. I believe Tesla does things just to be different without any thought of what the modification means. -Imagine going through a weigh station and need to roll down the window to speak with someone or just show paperwork, sitting in the center does not make it convenient. How about a road inspection and the officer walks to your door, you have to get out of your seat. Something as a security gate to show your paperwork, have to get out of the seat.
16:50 I was excited that I finally knew something Kyle didn't (the weight of the truck) and was going to comment until I realized Kyle is filming this at the conferenced where Dan Priestly shared the weight.
Cruising is supposed to be the one more forward motor, and acceleration and for extra regen is the pair on the second axle. The disengage of the pair is done with a clutch. This had all been explained before.
@@lemongavine - The Single Motor is Always Engaged,the Dual Motors kick in if Acceleration is needed beyond the Single Motor Capabilities, and or Hill Climbing, and Descending - For Greater Regenerative Energy Capture!
@@lemongavine - Induction Motors, as I understand, can be decoupled, electronically, per Cybertruck Reviews, but in the Semi, the Single Motor is Always Live, and the Dual Motors are Sync'd and Clutched in, as needed for extra Acceleration, Hill Climbing., and Regen!
You have to also look at individual State weight limits. Places like Michigan allow for 168,000 lb with no special permits or additional cost, assuming you meet the axle load limits. This is absolutely fantastic for hauling steel.
A standard 53 foot dry van trailer is 12-13k lbs, so roughly 43-45k of cargo. My 2024 Freightliner with a empty Vanguard 53 foot trailer is 33k lbs empty btw. Around the standard maximum load for a semi is about 45,000 lb of cargo. Typically we only carry about 43k so we can balance the load by adjusting the trailer tandems.
_the max cargo is 59,000 pounds_ This will be limited by the per-axle weight limits to around 46,500 lbs., except in areas where exceeding the federal 82,000 lb. GCVWR is permitted.
as a day cab I can see this working ..but I spent 10 years in trucks and my smallest truck had a 60" sleeper. you live in the truck for weeks at a time.. having pc a weeks worth of clothes. and any kind of rec. equipment so a set of clubs to hit some public courses on 34 hour restart on the road .. that adds up quick plus twin sized mattress has to fit.. then the starlink (which I would have loved back when I drove)
Looked like plenty of room for clubs in that bottom section. Or holding tank area I suppose. Hopefully they can make some great quality of life changes for sleeper cab though.
Driver perspective is something I have not seen or heard for this. What do they think or certain aspects they interact with every day. Center positioned driver seat, suicide doors, doors that open a full 90 degrees, the multiple displays, cameras for mirrors, range of course, but how about handling a load up a grade, down a grade...how do all these items differ between a diesel equivalent. Are there long haul considerations that differ that the most common use cases of short haul Pepsi uses it for. What about rest stops, and options along major interstates that may have no charging capabilities.
@@sereth1738 This seems logical considering the conceptual limitations to an electric truck. Why add a sleeper cab variant that jacks up manufacturing costs for the whole brand when it's highly unlikely you'll be running thousands of miles in one haul? I am very curious to see what real truckers have to say about the thing.
@@mattrocde it’s not that you’ll be running thousands of miles in one haul. it’s that you’ll be running 800 miles in one haul, then 600 miles the same day you drop off that load. then 1400 once you drop that load. do you know anything about OTR trucking? yeah this truck will be good for local truckers. but what about the ones on the road. going from texas to ohio. ohio to florida. florida to california. those truckers make a big amount of the industry. can’t just leave them out
Trucking companies make decisions based on ROI making them immune from FUD which so affects the car market. Demand for this truck will be over the top. Converting CT into local delivery vehicle would be a winner also.
This thing has been "in production" for a year and a half...and Tesla has sold only around 100 of these. This can mean that A: It's a cabbage product not fitting real-life customer needs = no demand. B: it's a nightmare to build, so Tesla can't/doesn't want to ramp up the production. C: Both above
@@NzeRekoRec I am interested to know why you’re trashing the Tesla Semi years before production which is to start 1.5 years from now. Both of your comments clearly made with zero knowledge. “Our first vehicles are planned for late 2025 with external customers starting in 2026,” Vice President of Vehicle Engineering Lars Moravy said during an April 23 question-and-answer session with analysts after the release of the company's first-quarter 2024 results.
" In October 2022, Musk told investors that his goal was to make 50,000 Semis in 2024" How many times do you cultists need to be lied straight to your faces before you realize Musk will say whatever if it drives the stock up?
Any short or long haul trucker not educating themselves on the Tesla Semi could miss out on some huge opportunities to make some real money. This is the future - Tesla has proven it - and it is only going to get better from here. I guess you could call the next Tesla Semi a gen2 but in reality I think it is the true V1 Tesla Semi with the main things sorted out. I can't wait to see that!!! Great job Tesla - now get me my 500 mi range CT.....
There’s no chargers fast enough and big enough to suit a truckers’ schedule and let them charge with a trailer, Tesla hasn’t been building the chargers necessary for the Semi. It’ll do 500 miles but it pulls less load because it’s heavier than a diesel, and the seat being centered means exchanging documents (done at least 2-3 times a trip, if not more) is an extreme pain. Semi trucks should only be pure diesel or hybrids, full electric doesn’t have the necessary tech to be able to match a diesel trucks’ range and towing capacity.
Fk yeah with a new powered load wheel driven trailer using some thin roof top solar&maybe even solar side fold out canopies? You could even haul a small portable wind turbine as they sell those NOW. Run all the ev toys without burning anything. 👍🏻😎
If you use a 53 foot trailer you could fit an 8 kW PV array on the roof. If you wanted to get fancy with swing out panels (parked ) you could almost double that.
literaly nothing beats diesel! the ultimate RV/toy hauler diesel can literaly do 2500 miles of range crossing deserts or going to the remotest places on earth.
I got invited to the big August robo taxi reveal in 2017. Wow. It was awesome. Level 5 completely autonomous cars that just drive you anywhere without any human inputs!!!!
At last, a sensible comment from a business point of view. The semi is a niche sale and the trucking industry people that I know are just giggling about it all.
Grid and power companies aren't in the least worried. In fact judging by most of their websites and press releases, they are as giddy as school girls for anything EV. More product to sell. The potato chip thing is also not true as majority truck routes are less than 500 miles.
A sleeper for Tesla Semi is planned, probably going to that big empty space in the back at 7:00, announced Oct. 2, 2023 by Tesla's Senior Manager of Semi-Truck Engineering Dan Priestley in UA-cam video "Jay Leno Hauls Tesla Semi with Tesla Semi - Jay Leno's Garage" at 17:10 in that video.
_When well there be a drag race with this thing_ Here's a drag race between a Tesla Semi towing a flatbed trailer loaded with 44,000 lbs. of concrete highway barriers and a diesel semi. As you can see, the Tesla Semi is accelerating rapidly (watch the speedometer) up a steep slope on Donner Pass, and passing the diesel semi as if it were standing still: ua-cam.com/video/LtOqU2o81iI/v-deo.html.
As an FYI the "side frunk" on a semi is usually called the "Doghouse" by truckers. Back in the day drivers were required to keep their mileage and time log in the doghouse so they couldn't alter the entries when/if they were pulled over. It wasn't uncommon for drivers to have ways around this of course =)
Tesla will definitely change the cab inside and out. I think they are testing these trucks hard for the future models. I am long time trucker and I can see that Tesla will be successful with electric semi in few years.
For me the most interesting thing to see was that the Semi still has real mirrors and no cameras. Here in Europe half of the trucks meanwhile have cameras only.
While Cybertruck might be getting mixed reviews, the Semi seems to be getting mostly positive reviews. The Semi is game changer few seem to know about, because it is a commercial vehicle. I agree with Kyle, if you went from a traditional trick with diesel engine and tons of shifting as well as kind of slow, the Tesla Semi would be a major leap forward. Now to see if Tesla can truly ramp production to 50,000 units or higher.
@@jimpackard8059The Pepsi bottling plant in Sacramento uses the Tesla Semi to carry drinks and vending machines, on routes as long as 450 miles. That's not lightweight. Some of the routes go over Donner Pass. That's some serious altitude change. Sacramento is about 50 feet above sea level.
According to Tesla, the tractor along does 0-60 in 5 seconds, fully loaded to 82,000 GCVW is 20 seconds. Given the weight and horsepower, those numbers are plausible.
@@BigBen621 the 0-60 at 82,000 lbs is confirmed on the website; however, Elon said the 0-60 without the trailer was 5 seconds back in 2017. The production version of the truck likely weighs more and has a different powertrain.
They told you they have a full review coming of the "competitions" products which have been available but "as usual) aren't "competition" because they don't have the same capability. . Don't use the term if it doesn't (really) apply.
now Jay Leno needs to go drive real semis, the Australian road trains through the Outback hell yeah! hauling 4x the load of the tesla semi is mind blowing with just 650hp diesel.
So, I have a good friend, who drives a semi. He has been doing short haul trips for a few years. That means, he starts at the Port of Los Angeles. He picks up a container and drives it about 100 miles to the trainyards. Unfortunately, they have a Freightliner and Volvo. That means he has to sit for half an hour and charge between runs.
The Tesla Semi has much longer range that these, and charges much faster as well. In fact, during the Run On Less tests last September, a Tesla Semi drove 1,076 miles in a single day. They would be perfect in this application, making at least two 100 mile rounds trips on a full charge, before adding another couple of round trips during the 30 minute mandatory break before 8 hours.
no. This is a cost saving measure for companies really. It’s one of the cheapest cost semi trucks. Low maintenance and cheap fuel. It’s not self driving yet nor capabilities yet.
@@carholic-sz3qv Almost like it isn't a sleeper. Who would have thought someone would build a semi that isn't a sleeper? There has obviously never been a semi built in history that wasn't a sleeper. /s
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT. Tesla doesn't do anything right. As a truck driver sitting in the center is a dumb idea. Truck drivers like to hang their arms out the window. Can't do that here. These people have no idea what truckers demand.
As a former driver and business owner with trucks - the ONLY thing I care about is if the vehicle is aligned with my profit motive. Cool features, styling, 0-60, etc have zero impact. All I cared about was getting heavy things from one place to another for as little money as possible. Pretty sure this would not have satisfied my use case. For local or regional deliveries, maybe. Each operator needs to have charging that can deal with charging all the trucks in the fleet when they need to be charged. Service needs to be a no-excuses immediate response situation. This is an industrial regime where it just needs to work all the time. Gimmicks don't sway buyers.
Yes, mostly for local or regional deliveries. They're day cabs, which of course aren't suitable for long haul/OTR applications. But according to Tesla, these'll come eventually.
It's kind of lumpy looking but I guess that's the aero to cheat the wind. Tesla needs to start deploying these and get rid of some of the oil burners. So simple...and yet kind of complicated (based on that shot of the "guts") and, apparently, tough to get right.
As a former commercial driver, not sure I like the center driving position, probably wouldn't matter for regional stuff or for Pepsi. They are likely going into big distribution centers where there's plenty of room to pull forward enough that you can just straight back into a dock, or they're doing yard drops and having a small yard dog actually move the semis into the docking position. But that center driving position is not going to be helpful when you're having to do a 45° back into a doc. Or having to go back and forth from driver to blindside. Cameras are great. But they can't follow the end of that trailer which is what you need to be seeing. Most of the time when I was doing a 45° angle back you got the window down and you get your head stuck out the window while you're steering with your right hand and just idling backwards. Not going to be able to do that with cameras. One other issue with using screens versus actual mirrors, your focal length changes when you look forward out the window you're looking out into the distance when you look at a side mirror you're looking at distance down the side of the truck behind you and the focal length for your eyes is similar. Having to constantly change focus from distance to close up to a screen to look at the side mirror can be fatiguing especially for older people. It's possible that those screens are far enough away that it wouldn't be such an issue I don't know I'd have to see it in person. Incidentally I saw a Tesla semi in a video the other day that had a left positioned driver seat. I don't know what the video was about and it was only a quick clip but there were several comments in the video mentioning the repositioning of the driver seat. Perhaps this was a early look at Tesla semi 2.0 or perhaps a version of Tesla semi made for a particular customer. Kind of interesting with the independent front suspension should ride and handle a bit better although I can't imagine that would actually matter in a semi. I would think a solid axle with a single kingpin in the middle would actually be able to have a tighter turning radius. It is interesting the cab has no suspension.. I'm sure they figured out what they needed to do to make it ride well
i think the position has more to do with making it as aerodynamic as possible and maximizing the wheelbase. If the driver was off to one side you would not be able to make that same aero profile and also it allows the driver to sit much further forward which would mean you don't need to extend the wheelbase as much to make it a sleeper as you can already see all the free space behind the driver seat in this config.
@@zachmoyer1849 I'm sure you're right, however none of that matters if you can't back the thing into a dock. And that's sort of my point. I've been to plenty of places where I had to practically jackknife the trailer to rotate into a parking spot. And when I was finally in the dock there was only a few feet in front of me. There is no way at extreme truck / trailer angles that you're going to be able to use those cameras to see where the end of your trailer is. I don't think it actually matters this much, there's plenty of market space for trucks that don't do that kind of maneuvering. Such as the Pepsi contract. There's a massive variety of semi trucks on the road from logging trucks to cement trucks to all different types of configurations and shapes and wheel bases. You pick the truck that's most suited to the task you need done. And if you spend most of your day backing up trailers into tight docks this truck is not the one for you. But that's okay. I'm just giving my experience as a former trucker. They were times where I practically had to open the door and stand on the side step to get a good view of where my trailer was going particularly in some of the old school trucks that had a wider sleeper box then the driver compartment.
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Kyle, you never make "terrible" videos. Your enthusiasm makes them all interesting.
I’m ticking close to 80 years of age and was an OTR driver for a lot of years starting in 1970. The old school drivers will definitely shy away from these trucks. Not too many O/O’s going to go this route until they are proven reliable and the charging times are better in my opinion. The driver’s position is definitely a learning curve for older drivers. Using display screens for your information is also a learning experience. I’m sure that newbie truck drivers will embrace these much better than older drivers. I used to haul loads from the Toronto Ontario area to Port Huron Michigan area daily with GVW close to 140,000 lbs. We had approximately 80,000 lbs in the 7 axle aluminum trailers we hauled. I wonder how the Tesla would handle those types of loads? Tesla likes to tease us with what may be coming and tune in for more and then you wait. Good info guys.👍👍🇨🇦
Can you imagine and state what training timelines from what went through could be just from this impression?
Beginner errors potentially saved?
Until they find out how much money they can save. lol.
It's written through a translator. About the position of the seat and mirrors. Changing conditions, along with them quickly change and habits. Not once saw reviews of tesla drivers, as they are used to watch the situation on the screen, because there in 3d shows all road users and objects in 360 degrees. And then if such drivers have to drive a regular car, they are uncomfortable, because they can not see the whole traffic situation only through the windows and mirrors. ) I think for truck drivers such improvements are even more relevant. And solve the problem of blind spots. I'm not a truck driver, or even a passenger car driver. But more than once I've encountered blind spots playing trucker games.
Fun to see Kyle and Jordan nerding out on the Tesla semi truck.
Promises promises... Nikola 2.o
You won't ever see a smile on a grown man's face quite like Kyle's after he got to ride in the Tesla semi
Kyle is Mr Enthusiasm! 😁 👍
Except mine after driving every Tesla since the Tesla Roadster. Recently drove my sisters CyberPunk... Still grinning weeks later..
lol!!!!
I noticed the same thing!
It will be a very rare experience. Being in one I mean.😂😂😂 500miles of range means 250 real life ,without a trailer 😅
Love the “we have no information”. I’m jealous
We do know how the motors are arranged. The twin motor axle is the "torque" axle, for starting, and fox max output when needed. The motors have freewheels, so in steady state or low output needs, the single motor takes over for max efficiency. The changeovers are seamless to the driver.
Of the two rear axles, which one is the torque axle, and which one is the single motor axle?
@@AWildBardI *think* it's the back one, but My memory from the first time I heard about this was that the twin motor was the one with the freewheels, but the single motor was the torque one, which is the other way round. I don't really think it matters. I an more impressed with the way they have the whole operation so transparent and seamless.
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Yeah, it doesn't matter exactly, I was just curious.
not gonna lie, this off the cuff excitement has been one of my favorite videos of yours. Great fun!
This was great. Right length, not over talking it, thanks for sharing guys.
Dear Kyle. I love your enthusiasme. Keep up the good work. Greatings from Denmark.
I prefer, warts and all, genuine, no BS, anything! Loved this vid! Thank you! Electric trucking offers massive cost reductions on ALL goods transported on land. No ever increasing, volatile fuel costs, and significantly reduced maintenance costs. Cost reductions that benefit every consumer out there.
On what planet do you live?
Did you have math in school?
You certainly didn't have economy classes.
These trocks can haul like 1/3 of what a normal one can
For short haul and some medium haul routes, absolutely.
The hard stuff Tesla does right away, the impossible takes a little longer.😉
It’s all nice on paper, but the reality is there’s no way under load this is getting 1.xx plus kWh per mile. Real world range under load will be a lot less than advertised . That truck was driven Bob tail. As a former long hauler, the difference between Bob tail and under loaded trailer (42k pounds) is dramatic.
@@DiedwhilemakingwafflesThey can haul MORE than a regular one. By that I mean they can *physically* pull much more than a diesel, with better acceleration. The total permitted payload, (which is what I think you were talking about) is comparable to an equivalent truck. The 500 mile range unit weighs 23,000 pounds, leaving 59,000 for trailer and cargo.
HUGE battery! So happy we placed our order 2 years ago for qty. 50
I saw my first Cybertruck in the wild yesterday. Coming back from Manitou Springs on a back road, Highway 105 that somewhat parallels I-25, near Sedalia, Colorado, and it was wrapped in black.
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This truck looks really promising! Thanks for the informative video, Kyle! I already saw them driving on the highways here in the Bay Area. One was in the Frito Lays wrap and another in the PepsiCo wrap. They look almost ethereal , just floating inches above the road surface, gliding smoothly. I really hope these EV trucks take over the supply chains of the world and bring about drastic change to pollution levels.
The Tesla Semi battery pack is 850 KWH in its present configuration. That's based on 1.7 KWH per mile and a 500 mile range. I don't know how much room there is for improving efficiency. A certain amount of energy is required to move that much mass.
Probably not a whole lot. That's in line with the battery and range estimates of competing trucks as well. There's only so aerodynamic you can make a brick.
@@brendanshroyer7696 Yes. And considering that the drive train efficiency is already over 90%, there isn't much room for improvement.
I assume they are hoping to get that down to 800 kWh i.e. 1.6 kWh per mile.. Even a tiny improvement in efficiency gains is a lot in terms of battery size..
The drivetrain has 3 Plaid motors.
1 on the first drive axle that is permanently engaged
2 on the rear axle that only get engaged for big power delivery and regen.
They need to make one with 4 motors.
Why?
They already have all the power they need, a Fourth motor Will just make it less efficiënt.
Also, if you ever want to know what Kyle looked like as a kid, the smile on his face as he sat in that chair, I think his childhood dreams came true.
Good to hear about the move to "regular" MCS. Slightly fewer competing standards is a good thing.
Hopefully this will be a single global standard for high power charging.
@@rockinrobstar81 A beautiful dream. 🤩
Half of all tractors on the road are short route trucks. Like last mile delivery trucks, where the 300 mile range is twice as far as most delivery drivers go in a day.
This point is WAY underappreciated.
The technology needed to replace about 75% of Class 8 trucks with BEV has existed for at least three years.
There are some technical / administrative challenges, such as charger build out. And there's the up front cost.
It's just a matter of time before BEV trucks become the norm. There's typically about a 10 year gap between technologies being developed and then reaching the consumer (or industry in this case). This technology was first developed about six or seven years ago. Just a few more years to go.
absolutely false
@@davidmenasco5743 nope it hasnt lol!!!! did you make it let alone affordable?!
I drive diesel trucks and i can’t wait till we switch to electric
You are a rare species. A truckie I know stated that when he sees the first electric truck he will burn it down to the ground.
@@moestrei
EXACTLY the same sentiment as when Japanese Cars/ Bikes arrived.
How did that end again?
@@rogerstarkey5390 you are totally wrong lol!!!!
I agree. I would love a EV heavy wrecker
@@carholic-sz3qv Toyota surpassed GM as the largest car manufacture decades ago
Such a great video! 🎉
What's crazy to me as someone who has built competing EV semis is how short the Tesla Semi is. It's nearly a foot shorter than the single axle truck that I worked on and three feet shorter than the tandem truck. And it packs twice the battery capacity to boot. I've heard a lot of people talking smack about the unusual cab layout, but the packaging is actually really clever. Almost no hood, wheels on either side of the driver, and what would be a big gap between the cab and trailer is extra space for the driver and extra cargo compartments. And all that in a smaller package than the competition.
tesla semi is a failure lol
@@DanuxsyI wouldn’t hold the funeral yet. If they’re building 50k of these trucks at 850kwh a pop that’s between 700 and 800 thousand model 3’s or probably over a million compact cars they couldn’t build because they were battery constrained. The more ubiquitous and cheap lithium ion batteries get the better the business model starts to look for a semi market, battery costs are only coming down for the foreseeable future from where they are now.
@@howardj602 the leader is Volvo and they sold a little under 2000 trucks last year, we’re not really on the same page here. Volvo is also not building millions of electric sedans and compact cars right now so even though they’re doing a great job, I’ll put my money on Tesla to be able to scale this up 25x
@@Matis_747 You are delusional
@@Danuxsy we’ll see.
A comment from a CDL holder, it’s a great vehicle for local or regional work, this is not a long haul truck and that’s not a real problem. I you look at the new Kenworth (PACCAR) super truck entry you will see they have adopted the Tesla Semi central driving position, really its the way of the future for hybrids and large trucks where aero will become more and more critical.
Kyle, all modern semi’s are easy to drive now, gone are the days of 18 spd manuals and super 10’s, now you put the vehicle in drive and move out, many companies even lock their drivers out of any manual modes and you’re even getting e-mirrors offered directly from the manufacturer or through Mirror Eye. The real challenge will be for Tesla to work with states to get these adopted into intermodal work and regional or short haul work. That would help us introduce the trucks without having to solve the public charging problems.
This technology being expanded to make hybrids more effective represents the future of class 8 over the road trucking. We won’t see it for a few years yet and there is a lot of regulation work that will need to take place between states and government to make this happen. As a driver I’d be happy to give it a try due totality to the torque, modern trucks are now often limited to 1450 ft/lbs for general applications and around 450 hp, thats why when governed it takes us so long to make a pass on the highway. These would be something many drivers would enjoy, though old school drivers will always miss the sound of a diesel engine.
It’s a step forward for specific applications, and something that should be welcomed, and as long as we don’t expect more than the vehicle can provide, we won’t be disappointed 😺
I'm not so sure. The complaint from long haul drivers has been charging time. However, with potential savings over the cost of diesel, the 1+ hour spent charging the truck could be the most profitable time for the driver.
@@andyfeimsternfei8408 and Pepsi shared they did 1,074 miles in 24hrs using slipstream drivers already.
3 seperate charging sessions that day as well. They routinely had trucks doing 800-1,000+driving miles in 24hrs.
A lot of little details and big details will have to be worked out, as trucking transitions to BEV. People who want everything to stay the same will get pretty uncomfortable.
But I think it's a great opportunity to revisit a lot of questions that probably should be revisited anyway.
It's again a non starter on why we need these? Electric comes from fossil fuels and the more farm lands thy destroy for"solar farms" would be ridiculous to meet 100% of the need of electrical vehicles besides we're having brown outs with non ev use. We're being told when to run our AC but it's fine to charge these trinkets. We need AC in hotter states for health reasons besides the electric needed for home health aides. (Cpap machine, oxygen care, etc) this is all distraction from companies like Tesla forcing our government through intimidation from non educated voters pushing for fake climate change green energy dependance. But will still need fossil fuels unless they force Americans to pay higher energy costs, which is what the big oil companies did with getting rid of ethanol in the 1920s by government shutdown of ALL alcohol. Farmers were running their own crops in their own machinery by raising corn.
I think it should be a law that if another semi/ vehicle is trying to pass you, you are required to let off the accelerator a bit so that they can pass you sooner. This goes for every vehicle on the road.
Truckers and other drivers should work together to not block traffic... I'm pretty sure trucks are not locked into 60-65mph... so if some dummy decides they want to pass at 1mph faster, the other truck should drop their speed by at least 5mph to not cause traffic to build up.
Man, this is the most interesting review of a car cabin I’ve seen, so cool to see Apple level software and hardware made for machine operators!!
However they just proved that pro-users need stalks!!!
Like of course it would be hard to use touch based rotational controls to engage with critical functions, oof 😥
Best video this year.
Trade in Francie’s Vinfast and give her a Tesla Semi to drive😂
😂
I wish I had a Tesla with 850 kWh 😂
Putting the driver's seat in the middle was really a dumb idea. I believe Tesla does things just to be different without any thought of what the modification means.
-Imagine going through a weigh station and need to roll down the window to speak with someone or just show paperwork, sitting in the center does not make it convenient. How about a road inspection and the officer walks to your door, you have to get out of your seat. Something as a security gate to show your paperwork, have to get out of the seat.
16:50 I was excited that I finally knew something Kyle didn't (the weight of the truck) and was going to comment until I realized Kyle is filming this at the conferenced where Dan Priestly shared the weight.
Kyle, this is not a terrible video at all, but a really sick video, koodos for presenting it!
Cruising is supposed to be the one more forward motor, and acceleration and for extra regen is the pair on the second axle. The disengage of the pair is done with a clutch. This had all been explained before.
So the induction motor is clutched, right?
@@lemongavine - The Single Motor is Always Engaged,the Dual Motors kick in if Acceleration is needed beyond the Single Motor Capabilities, and or Hill Climbing, and Descending - For Greater Regenerative Energy Capture!
@@lemongavine - Induction Motors, as I understand, can be decoupled, electronically, per Cybertruck Reviews, but in the Semi, the Single Motor is Always Live, and the Dual Motors are Sync'd and Clutched in, as needed for extra Acceleration, Hill Climbing., and Regen!
Can you correct the squeaks and rattles in your Cybertruck?
They should make busses too! Love public transit, hate stinky and noisy diesel.
there's a BYD shaped elephant in the room. They are building electric buses locally in US already
@@chengcao418 I didn't know they had built a factory here. Can't wait!
@@chunkychuck I went to Anaheim Disney and saw them using electric BYDs as their shuttle, super cool, no noise no fumes
@@chengcao418I’ll look for them next time i go
There was a city that bought electric busses. Their frames broke under the batteries' weight in under a month. I belive it was Philly.
All these truckers so happy and they don't see they will be replaced by the self driving semi 😆
Wish this would come to Australia.
Full OoS video series on the semi would be insane . You have to make it happen 😂
They did say that the long-range truck weighs 23K pounds, so the max cargo is 59,000 pounds, and even more for the 300 mi. version.
You have to also look at individual State weight limits. Places like Michigan allow for 168,000 lb with no special permits or additional cost, assuming you meet the axle load limits. This is absolutely fantastic for hauling steel.
A standard 53 foot dry van trailer is 12-13k lbs, so roughly 43-45k of cargo. My 2024 Freightliner with a empty Vanguard 53 foot trailer is 33k lbs empty btw. Around the standard maximum load for a semi is about 45,000 lb of cargo. Typically we only carry about 43k so we can balance the load by adjusting the trailer tandems.
@Tron-Jockey
Numbers quoted by Dan Priestley were *without* the 2000 lb allowance.
23k is pretty comparable to modern sleeper otr trucks
_the max cargo is 59,000 pounds_
This will be limited by the per-axle weight limits to around 46,500 lbs., except in areas where exceeding the federal 82,000 lb. GCVWR is permitted.
Love this truck can’t wait to see it in Canada
I live in the mountains within Tesla semi range of a Pepsi distribution center. I see these on our mountain roads frequently!
Literally standing in front of the open hood, the lady says, "I haven't seen under the hood yet."
And the guy responds, "Yeah."
😂😂
as a day cab I can see this working ..but I spent 10 years in trucks and my smallest truck had a 60" sleeper. you live in the truck for weeks at a time.. having pc a weeks worth of clothes. and any kind of rec. equipment so a set of clubs to hit some public courses on 34 hour restart on the road .. that adds up quick plus twin sized mattress has to fit.. then the starlink (which I would have loved back when I drove)
Looked like plenty of room for clubs in that bottom section. Or holding tank area I suppose.
Hopefully they can make some great quality of life changes for sleeper cab though.
Driver perspective is something I have not seen or heard for this. What do they think or certain aspects they interact with every day. Center positioned driver seat, suicide doors, doors that open a full 90 degrees, the multiple displays, cameras for mirrors, range of course, but how about handling a load up a grade, down a grade...how do all these items differ between a diesel equivalent. Are there long haul considerations that differ that the most common use cases of short haul Pepsi uses it for. What about rest stops, and options along major interstates that may have no charging capabilities.
more importantly, there’s no sleeper cab version so most owner operators won’t invest in it or any long haul companies. seems more like a local truck.
@@sereth1738 This seems logical considering the conceptual limitations to an electric truck. Why add a sleeper cab variant that jacks up manufacturing costs for the whole brand when it's highly unlikely you'll be running thousands of miles in one haul? I am very curious to see what real truckers have to say about the thing.
@@mattrocde it’s not that you’ll be running thousands of miles in one haul. it’s that you’ll be running 800 miles in one haul, then 600 miles the same day you drop off that load. then 1400 once you drop that load. do you know anything about OTR trucking? yeah this truck will be good for local truckers. but what about the ones on the road. going from texas to ohio. ohio to florida. florida to california. those truckers make a big amount of the industry. can’t just leave them out
Kyle, you didn't mention air conditioning controls or vents. It DOES have AC, right?
It does, but you have to navigate a _touch screen_ 🤮 to use it.
@@MobiAussieliterally the same as just pressing buttons, except it’s more easier to use
@@wingless747no, its not.
@@Demonz209 it is, you have the same ac controls as with buttons and once you get used to it it’s much easier to navigate.
@@wingless747 again, no it’s not. I’ve got a M3P and a Lexus IS 350. The Lexus is way easier because obviously it’s not on a touchscreen.
Trucking companies make decisions based on ROI making them immune from FUD which so affects the car market. Demand for this truck will be over the top.
Converting CT into local delivery vehicle would be a winner also.
This thing has been "in production" for a year and a half...and Tesla has sold only around 100 of these. This can mean that
A: It's a cabbage product not fitting real-life customer needs = no demand.
B: it's a nightmare to build, so Tesla can't/doesn't want to ramp up the production.
C: Both above
@@NzeRekoRec I am interested to know why you’re trashing the Tesla Semi years before production which is to start 1.5 years from now. Both of your comments clearly made with zero knowledge.
“Our first vehicles are planned for late 2025 with external customers starting in 2026,” Vice President of Vehicle Engineering Lars Moravy said during an April 23 question-and-answer session with analysts after the release of the company's first-quarter 2024 results.
" In October 2022, Musk told investors that his goal was to make 50,000 Semis in 2024"
How many times do you cultists need to be lied straight to your faces before you realize Musk will say whatever if it drives the stock up?
Any short or long haul trucker not educating themselves on the Tesla Semi could miss out on some huge opportunities to make some real money. This is the future - Tesla has proven it - and it is only going to get better from here. I guess you could call the next Tesla Semi a gen2 but in reality I think it is the true V1 Tesla Semi with the main things sorted out. I can't wait to see that!!! Great job Tesla - now get me my 500 mi range CT.....
There’s no chargers fast enough and big enough to suit a truckers’ schedule and let them charge with a trailer, Tesla hasn’t been building the chargers necessary for the Semi. It’ll do 500 miles but it pulls less load because it’s heavier than a diesel, and the seat being centered means exchanging documents (done at least 2-3 times a trip, if not more) is an extreme pain. Semi trucks should only be pure diesel or hybrids, full electric doesn’t have the necessary tech to be able to match a diesel trucks’ range and towing capacity.
@@wingless747 This will change - but for sure - you are correct right now.
Can you imagine the ultimate electric RV/toy hauler?
Fk yeah with a new powered load wheel driven trailer using some thin roof top solar&maybe even solar side fold out canopies?
You could even haul a small portable wind turbine as they sell those NOW. Run all the ev toys without burning anything. 👍🏻😎
If you use a 53 foot trailer you could fit an 8 kW PV array on the roof. If you wanted to get fancy with swing out panels (parked ) you could almost double that.
An RV would be super interesting. You can charge using the park's 50 amp docks
YESS! Extended cab with flexible tunnel to the trailer with PV on top, extended batteries in the bottom on the roadster in the back.
literaly nothing beats diesel! the ultimate RV/toy hauler diesel can literaly do 2500 miles of range crossing deserts or going to the remotest places on earth.
The Tesla Spaceship ❤🔥
dang I want one of these for daily driving haha
Best house in wheel after some modification
I want one for a class A motorhome..... Stay safe, Tim
Thanks to Kyle & Out of spec team for another great video! I hope you guys got invites to the big August reveal of robo taxi & $25k model 2🤞🏾
More vaporware
I got invited to the big August robo taxi reveal in 2017. Wow. It was awesome. Level 5 completely autonomous cars that just drive you anywhere without any human inputs!!!!
theres no 25k model 2
and you will see no Robo-Taxi reveal (unless a Level 4/5 Waymo Jag drives onto the stage).
Best ev UA-camr.
why is there no sleeper cab?
There is one that they’re developing now.
It’s a great truck as long as you are carrying potato chips and popcorn, and good luck finding a grid to support recharging an entire fleet overnight.
At last, a sensible comment from a business point of view. The semi is a niche sale and the trucking industry people that I know are just giggling about it all.
Grid and power companies aren't in the least worried. In fact judging by most of their websites and press releases, they are as giddy as school girls for anything EV. More product to sell. The potato chip thing is also not true as majority truck routes are less than 500 miles.
1.7 is amazing, my hummer gets 1.6. Not sure how it’s possible but glad to hear.
Hummer probably get 1.6 miles/kWh, or 0.588 kWh/mile Semi gets 1.7 kWh/mile, quite good for its size and weight.
@@georgepelton5645 lol!!!!! thats actually not true! the economy depends on how and where they drove nothing fixed.
@@carholic-sz3qv It is just basic math that 1.6 miles/kWh is 0.588 kWh/mile. True!
How you gonna back it up for charging
A sleeper for Tesla Semi is planned, probably going to that big empty space in the back at 7:00, announced Oct. 2, 2023 by Tesla's Senior Manager of Semi-Truck Engineering Dan Priestley in UA-cam video "Jay Leno Hauls Tesla Semi with Tesla Semi - Jay Leno's Garage" at 17:10 in that video.
why? it doesn't go far enough to need a sleeper, unless that's for sleeping while you charge the garbage truck
Nice.
It's great to see that it's so open there and ready for sleeper.
It wasn’t a terrible vid. It was awesome!!!
When will there be a drag race with this thing
_When well there be a drag race with this thing_
Here's a drag race between a Tesla Semi towing a flatbed trailer loaded with 44,000 lbs. of concrete highway barriers and a diesel semi. As you can see, the Tesla Semi is accelerating rapidly (watch the speedometer) up a steep slope on Donner Pass, and passing the diesel semi as if it were standing still: ua-cam.com/video/LtOqU2o81iI/v-deo.html.
Not sure if it will beat a Porsche, but maybe race it against a Camaro?
Would be awesome!
As an FYI the "side frunk" on a semi is usually called the "Doghouse" by truckers. Back in the day drivers were required to keep their mileage and time log in the doghouse so they couldn't alter the entries when/if they were pulled over. It wasn't uncommon for drivers to have ways around this of course =)
Tesla will definitely change the cab inside and out. I think they are testing these trucks hard for the future models. I am long time trucker and I can see that Tesla will be successful with electric semi in few years.
Tesla is DONE
@@aantonic could you elaborate? Or just bold statement?
@@aantonic Always room for a little improvement... 😄
For me the most interesting thing to see was that the Semi still has real mirrors and no cameras.
Here in Europe half of the trucks meanwhile have cameras only.
Perhaps it's more important in the EU, not for the aerodynamics, but the tight spaces that those trucks have to navigate.
While Cybertruck might be getting mixed reviews, the Semi seems to be getting mostly positive reviews.
The Semi is game changer few seem to know about, because it is a commercial vehicle.
I agree with Kyle, if you went from a traditional trick with diesel engine and tons of shifting as well as kind of slow, the Tesla Semi would be a major leap forward.
Now to see if Tesla can truly ramp production to 50,000 units or higher.
You're delusional like all cult members.
Well ramp of cyber truck is going well so fingers crossed!
I saw the tesla Semi in the wild. I live in Northern Nevada about a 45 min. drive from the gigafactory where they are being made
Pepsico just reported they have recieved 50 more Telsa simis which they will
run out of their Fresno, Ca yard.
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Local lightweight deliveries. This is not a truck for real, heavy stuff or long distance
@@jimpackard8059The Pepsi bottling plant in Sacramento uses the Tesla Semi to carry drinks and vending machines, on routes as long as 450 miles. That's not lightweight.
Some of the routes go over Donner Pass. That's some serious altitude change. Sacramento is about 50 feet above sea level.
@@jimpackard8059 "Real, heavy, long distance stuff", should be transported by rail anyway.
@@Distress. I agree with your sentiment but trans shipping many heavy items is simply not practical.
That's awesome! Hopefully we can see some 0-60 tests of this beast.
For what?
According to Tesla, the tractor along does 0-60 in 5 seconds, fully loaded to 82,000 GCVW is 20 seconds. Given the weight and horsepower, those numbers are plausible.
@@brunoheggli2888 It's a Tesla.
@@brunoheggli2888 because its bad*ss world class and American made you teslaq hater!
@@BigBen621 the 0-60 at 82,000 lbs is confirmed on the website; however, Elon said the 0-60 without the trailer was 5 seconds back in 2017. The production version of the truck likely weighs more and has a different powertrain.
Most detailed look at this awesome truck. Sure would love seeing the competition’s products that have been available for some time already. Thanks 🙏
They told you they have a full review coming of the "competitions" products which have been available but "as usual) aren't "competition" because they don't have the same capability.
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Don't use the term if it doesn't (really) apply.
You 2 make it fun! Great job 🚚
Jay Leno did a drive in a Gen 2. The front end was different looking.
I would order one after knowing how the charging location would be available
Jay Leno drove one maybe you could team up with him 😂
That would be awesome.
now Jay Leno needs to go drive real semis, the Australian road trains through the Outback hell yeah! hauling 4x the load of the tesla semi is mind blowing with just 650hp diesel.
Yeah I saw that. That was like months ago. When it comes to Tesla's It's not what you know or who you know. It's who you are.
So, I have a good friend, who drives a semi. He has been doing short haul trips for a few years. That means, he starts at the Port of Los Angeles. He picks up a container and drives it about 100 miles to the trainyards. Unfortunately, they have a Freightliner and Volvo. That means he has to sit for half an hour and charge between runs.
The Tesla Semi has much longer range that these, and charges much faster as well. In fact, during the Run On Less tests last September, a Tesla Semi drove 1,076 miles in a single day. They would be perfect in this application, making at least two 100 mile rounds trips on a full charge, before adding another couple of round trips during the 30 minute mandatory break before 8 hours.
Kyles first ever semi 😅
Great vid! Wish I could have made it down myself this year.
freaking AWESOME!!!!! thanks
Promises promises... Like the Cybertruck, how many produced so far?
Does this mean truck drivers will be unemployed or start getting way lesser pay?
no. This is a cost saving measure for companies really. It’s one of the cheapest cost semi trucks. Low maintenance and cheap fuel. It’s not self driving yet nor capabilities yet.
This would be a relief for commercial truck drivers
Converting the diesel truck fleet to electric will prevent tens of thousands of premature deaths, just in the US.
not really! no fridge, literaly boring empty hideous! no bed..... whats that even?!
@@carholic-sz3qv Almost like it isn't a sleeper. Who would have thought someone would build a semi that isn't a sleeper? There has obviously never been a semi built in history that wasn't a sleeper. /s
What makes you so sure fleets won’t want CT? RWD variant would be perfect.
Technical opinion
It was awesome 😅
So was Windows 95
@@henryhill3778 We never went back to DOS.
Guys! This was a great, simple, easy to digest vid. Loved it!!!
Cool!!
I believe it has 3 Plaid PMS motors, with the clutch disconnect.
Did you film this on a nokia ?
😂
Few class-8 trucks have that many cameras. Very useful in ops
They need angry lights on exterior to tell invading cars the are getting to close.
YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
Tesla doesn't do anything right. As a truck driver sitting in the center is a dumb idea. Truck drivers like to hang their arms out the window. Can't do that here.
These people have no idea what truckers demand.
And you don't know that this truck is meant for steering wheel holders.
The batteries alone weigh about 10 tons. And he was talking half the video about BCrap
Kyle claims they don't know the weight of Semi as yet, but in the presentation Dan Priestly said 300 mile range version is
303 miles at 64% state of charge equates to ~474 miles of range...interested to know if that was loaded or not
it is loaded, 44,000 lbs towing
The compartment on the side should be called the srunk.
Skunk compartment will catch on. Trunk Frunk Skunk
Strunk
Still lot of useful details about motors that it uses and many others. Thanks for this video!
Telsa needs to start making school buses so then after a few years people could start making Tesla Skoolie's
That would be absurdly expensive.
Another company already makes EV skoolies and BYD makes buses
They missed that great opportunity. Now China already has more than half a million (not exaggerating) EV buses and could sell you as many as you need.
PAUL ALLEN DROVE THE CYBER SEMI?
😭😭
As a former driver and business owner with trucks - the ONLY thing I care about is if the vehicle is aligned with my profit motive. Cool features, styling, 0-60, etc have zero impact.
All I cared about was getting heavy things from one place to another for as little money as possible. Pretty sure this would not have satisfied my use case. For local or regional deliveries, maybe. Each operator needs to have charging that can deal with charging all the trucks in the fleet when they need to be charged. Service needs to be a no-excuses immediate response situation.
This is an industrial regime where it just needs to work all the time. Gimmicks don't sway buyers.
Efficiency is no gimmick. It goes straight to the bottom line.
Yes, mostly for local or regional deliveries. They're day cabs, which of course aren't suitable for long haul/OTR applications. But according to Tesla, these'll come eventually.
so 300 miles or 500 miles is that with or without the trailer?
smh
With, loaded to 82,000 lb. GCVW.
480P??
4K is still being procesed.
@@johntheux9238 Okay!
It's kind of lumpy looking but I guess that's the aero to cheat the wind. Tesla needs to start deploying these and get rid of some of the oil burners. So simple...and yet kind of complicated (based on that shot of the "guts") and, apparently, tough to get right.
As a former commercial driver, not sure I like the center driving position, probably wouldn't matter for regional stuff or for Pepsi. They are likely going into big distribution centers where there's plenty of room to pull forward enough that you can just straight back into a dock, or they're doing yard drops and having a small yard dog actually move the semis into the docking position.
But that center driving position is not going to be helpful when you're having to do a 45° back into a doc. Or having to go back and forth from driver to blindside. Cameras are great. But they can't follow the end of that trailer which is what you need to be seeing. Most of the time when I was doing a 45° angle back you got the window down and you get your head stuck out the window while you're steering with your right hand and just idling backwards. Not going to be able to do that with cameras. One other issue with using screens versus actual mirrors, your focal length changes when you look forward out the window you're looking out into the distance when you look at a side mirror you're looking at distance down the side of the truck behind you and the focal length for your eyes is similar. Having to constantly change focus from distance to close up to a screen to look at the side mirror can be fatiguing especially for older people.
It's possible that those screens are far enough away that it wouldn't be such an issue I don't know I'd have to see it in person.
Incidentally I saw a Tesla semi in a video the other day that had a left positioned driver seat. I don't know what the video was about and it was only a quick clip but there were several comments in the video mentioning the repositioning of the driver seat. Perhaps this was a early look at Tesla semi 2.0 or perhaps a version of Tesla semi made for a particular customer.
Kind of interesting with the independent front suspension should ride and handle a bit better although I can't imagine that would actually matter in a semi. I would think a solid axle with a single kingpin in the middle would actually be able to have a tighter turning radius. It is interesting the cab has no suspension.. I'm sure they figured out what they needed to do to make it ride well
i think the position has more to do with making it as aerodynamic as possible and maximizing the wheelbase. If the driver was off to one side you would not be able to make that same aero profile and also it allows the driver to sit much further forward which would mean you don't need to extend the wheelbase as much to make it a sleeper as you can already see all the free space behind the driver seat in this config.
@@zachmoyer1849
I'm sure you're right, however none of that matters if you can't back the thing into a dock. And that's sort of my point. I've been to plenty of places where I had to practically jackknife the trailer to rotate into a parking spot. And when I was finally in the dock there was only a few feet in front of me.
There is no way at extreme truck / trailer angles that you're going to be able to use those cameras to see where the end of your trailer is.
I don't think it actually matters this much, there's plenty of market space for trucks that don't do that kind of maneuvering. Such as the Pepsi contract.
There's a massive variety of semi trucks on the road from logging trucks to cement trucks to all different types of configurations and shapes and wheel bases. You pick the truck that's most suited to the task you need done. And if you spend most of your day backing up trailers into tight docks this truck is not the one for you.
But that's okay. I'm just giving my experience as a former trucker. They were times where I practically had to open the door and stand on the side step to get a good view of where my trailer was going particularly in some of the old school trucks that had a wider sleeper box then the driver compartment.
@@kens97sto171 ua-cam.com/video/1IAhumzgcFk/v-deo.html
Interesting points. Look forward as more drivers try one and comment on what works and what needs improvement.
@@kens97sto171 maybe they can make a drone that flies up in the sky to give you a birds eye view in real time lol
Can’t wait to see if they do a sleeper version
The Tesla semi only looks appealing in 480p 😂
Great team video, Out of Spec team you should get one and make team camping rig 😜😂😂
A 19:48 Video. Yeah, Tesla is being sketchy. We know you would have showed us more if you could have.
truth
Search run on less event data from last year with Pepsi running these at 60+mph loaded over 73,000#
Great presentation as usual also very polite , quite refreshing 😅