天と地と - Lady Yae

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  • Опубліковано 30 гру 2011
  • One of my favorite scenes of the film, not because I like what happens, rather it's interesting to consider what doesn't in contrast the characters, and in relation to honor. Most uploads from the movie include battles because they're more entertaining. This is an exception. I had to add in subtitles manually, except for those for Lord Takeda.
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  • @velophilercl
    @velophilercl 9 років тому +713

    To those that asked why he shot her... He shot her because sometime before this, when Kagetora had renounced the warriors life, vassals of hers had killed a close friend of his. When the one gent says "The woman we saw in the snow!" He is referring to the incident. They were unarmed, dressed as peasants and her vassal killed his friend for having the audacity of raising his palm to a bucking horse to protect himself and Kagetora. Bottom line, she had it coming, as do we all.

    • @KittySN
      @KittySN  7 років тому +46

      Thanks for scribbling a translated clarification for the rest of us!

    • @jquibbler
      @jquibbler 6 років тому +13

      Is this the movie where a woman maybe and empress is being escorted in the snow and their is a battle?
      I am trying to find this samurai movie that my father who passed away loved. I remember him watching it in the mid-90s and there was a scene where a woman is being escorted, it's a snowy scene. Do you know what I am talking about?

    • @warlordqueekheadtaker7960
      @warlordqueekheadtaker7960 6 років тому +26

      velophilercl True but the liberal cunts won't See it that way I mean Feminists

    • @stevengreen9536
      @stevengreen9536 6 років тому +54

      Actually it was Takeda's son Taro who killed the guy.Whom Takeda reprimanded on the spot for his stupidity.He then gave them a bag of money as compensation.Taro was the one to blame not lady Yae.Even though she was an enemy i think she deserved better in my personal opinion.

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 6 років тому +13

      Brian Morales Well it wasn't actually her fault, it was Taro.

  • @markaaron9957
    @markaaron9957 5 років тому +42

    "Heaven and Earth." My first samurai movie, so I'll always have a soft spot for it. It was this movie that clued me in about the love of the Japanese for simplicity and the beauty thereof.

    • @RanaRandom
      @RanaRandom 2 роки тому +2

      I remember that movie, the picture quality was so smooth like today's 4K OLED Smart TV's.

  • @user-ox9ey8bq8t
    @user-ox9ey8bq8t 8 років тому +443

    This is a black day, our general has fallen!!!

    • @KyoushaPumpItUp
      @KyoushaPumpItUp 7 років тому +40

      *brack
      *generar
      *farren

    • @jquibbler
      @jquibbler 6 років тому +2

      Is this the movie where a woman maybe and empress is being escorted in the snow and their is a battle?
      I am trying to find this samurai movie that my father who passed away loved. I remember him watching it in the mid-90s and there was a scene where a woman is being escorted, it's a snowy scene. Do you know what I am talking about?

    • @Klote3241
      @Klote3241 5 років тому +17

      he is quoting a audio segment from shogun total war 2 its a rts and turned based game.

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel 5 років тому +5

      @@jquibbler :This movie is called "Heaven and Earth."
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven_and_Earth_(1990_film)

    • @yngvebalmsteen9174
      @yngvebalmsteen9174 4 роки тому +9

      Our generar is in GWAVE danger!

  • @seinine
    @seinine 11 років тому +187

    The crescent on the helmet is the symbol of the Japanese Ryu, or dragon, meaning he is a fighter, living only for fight, fighting under heaven. In the middle of the crescent, you can see a draw of the Echigo province, the province of Uesugi Kenshin. The helmet were gived to Nagao Kagetora by the monks of the Rizen-ji who instruct him after his victory on his brother, giving him the right to be call the "Dragon of the Echigo".

    • @regginsouth9565
      @regginsouth9565 3 роки тому +7

      The dragon of the north v.s the tiger of the south. Destined to cross paths but wasn't destined to destroy each other.

    • @darrenjones2933
      @darrenjones2933 2 роки тому +7

      Comments like this are why I haven't ditched youtube yet.

  • @MrNeko4649
    @MrNeko4649 4 роки тому +15

    大河ドラマでは出せない迫力がこの映画にはある。

  • @scipiocorculum
    @scipiocorculum 4 роки тому +79

    Kagetora did not shoot Lady Yae to avenge his friend who was killed earlier in the movie. Anyone who has seen the entire movie and understands the character of Kagetora knows that a man with his lofty spirit would never stoop to petty revenge. He killed Lady Yae for a sound military reason. Her death demoralized Takeda who then retreated to properly mourn and bury her. Shooting Lady Yae broke the long deadlock and prevented a battle that would have cost Kagetora the lives of thousands of his soldiers.

    • @HansWurst1569
      @HansWurst1569 Рік тому +4

      I think he was actually just reaaaly pissed his vassal in the beginning made a better joke while he came up with nothing.

    • @CrvenkapicaIVZNG
      @CrvenkapicaIVZNG 2 місяці тому

      Lousy characters always find an excuse for the behavior of other lousy characters, a justification. If necessary, a military, tactical or even strategic one. An army in which there is no one to accept a challenge such as Lady Yae's is not an army, but a collection of lice-ridden armed men. No matter how well-dressed the armed men are and how high they may be from birth. Lack of character is incompatible with chivalry.

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel 2 місяці тому

      Lady Yae: "Fight me you man pussies.""
      Uesugi: *BAM*
      Takeda: "Nice shot bro."
      Uesugi: "Domo."

    • @DrCruel
      @DrCruel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@CrvenkapicaIVZNG Watchu talking about, bro. Musketeer accepted her challenge.

    • @dickstryker
      @dickstryker Місяць тому

      ​​@@CrvenkapicaIVZNGwhat would you know about it?
      Ain't ever been a clean fight on this earth. Fighting isn't clean. Warfare is the dirtiest, most inequitable fight of them all.
      Winner: Kagetora

  • @ForgottenHonor0
    @ForgottenHonor0 5 років тому +14

    Beautiful film! I own this movie and it's one of my favorite in the samurai genre.

  • @ZERO-lz2qu
    @ZERO-lz2qu 4 роки тому +17

    That leaf flute is the best version of the music

  • @pashapasovski5860
    @pashapasovski5860 5 років тому +30

    This movie inspired me to do many paintings of the way I remembered the emotion I had! It stood with me for a long time!
    Don't know why!😎

  • @user-ml8wy4my6k
    @user-ml8wy4my6k 3 роки тому +13

    華やかで…はかないシーンですね…
    天と地と…は何度も観ました。

  • @lightnesstraveling
    @lightnesstraveling 3 роки тому +102

    I long ago linked this to an article about the Japanese conflict between honor and utility. I appreciated the translations, as the English-language version changes the script because it wasn't expected that Westerners would understand the scene.
    To a Japanese watching this, it's understood that Lady Yae will be denied honor in battle, regardless of her skill, because she is a woman. She already knows that no man will fight her. She is effectively committing suicide in an attempt rally Takeda's forces by displaying her courage. The worst disrespect would have been for her to have been ignored as unworthy of a challenge, so she forces one by coming within range of Uesugi Kenshin's arquebus. He doesn't want to kill her; he's the only one who doesn't laugh at her. But doing so is the only way to maintain their mutual honors.
    "Lady Yae" is modeled after the heroic but tragic figure of Nakano Takeko, a female warrior who actually lived some three-centuries after the events portrayed in the film.

    • @exxcaliburs6002
      @exxcaliburs6002 3 роки тому +6

      interesting and insightful. thanks

    • @KNALLisgettinfamos
      @KNALLisgettinfamos 3 роки тому +4

      Thank you for this insight! Now I'm getting it.

    • @Account.for.Comment
      @Account.for.Comment 3 роки тому +8

      I disagreed, somewhat. Yae always want to prove herself in battle. Takeda and Kenshin, in real life, cared more about winnings than honours. Attack is harder than the defense, especially without surprise. When they are at the river, they are waiting for the others to attack. When the commander-in-chiefs played the waiting game, the subordinates felt bored and unsatisfied. Yae went for honor. Kenshin shot her because she caused death of his friend, earlier in the movie, which led to him retaking his title to stop Takeda.
      It is not a suicide attempt, she wanted to start a chain reaction that led the men to fight or at least show that she is a warrior befitted a daimyo. Takeda does not cared, he is slighlty upset that he lost a concubine, but he rather not lost the battle. Later in the movie, when his son or brother were trapped fighting for his life, Takeda focused on how to running away rather lose more troops.
      After Yae' s death, it would be dishonour for Takeda to continue to wait there. So he retreat, but praising his opponent and requesting if he want to attack them at their rear. Of course, if Kenshin attack, Kenshin is in a disadvantage, and Takeda could win and get back the honour. Kenshin, also is not stupid, so the confrontation ended by one useless death. Yae wanted to be a warrior but the generals only want to win.

    • @lightnesstraveling
      @lightnesstraveling 3 роки тому +3

      @@Account.for.Comment Thank you for the additional perspective. And I agree with many of your points, especially that "...the subordinates felt bored and unsatisfied," that Yae wants to start something while proving that she is a courageous warrior, that Takeda is more concerned about winning the battle and that he knows that he cannot do so with certainty, and that if Takeda Shingen does not accept Yae's death as an immediate challenge to battle, then it is a dishonor to stay and to continue to wait.
      However, Yae is a dramatic character, added to the actual history for the specific purpose of making a point in the film, that in fact these deaths in the name of honor were pointless. She was not the one who killed Usugi Kenshin's friend earlier in the film. And Kenshin understood both why her attendants acted as they did, and why they compensated the death with money. The value of Yae's own commitment to the warrior ethic is being questioned here; does it accomplish anything? As with Nakano Takeko's Onna-Bugeisha armed with ko-naginata rushing Imperial Army soldiers with firearms, Yae knows that she is likely doomed from the moment she determines to take her horse into the water... her expression shows that she knows this.
      As an aside from the Japanese historical perspective, the battles between Takeda Shingen and Usugi Kenshin are often used to illustrate how social values tend to fall before utility -- honor or victory. In their earlier battles, both men are noted for the honorable ways in which they approached their confrontations. Kenshin and Shingen would fight a one-on-battle in which Shingen, caught off-guard, chose to defend himself with an iron signaling fan or, “tessen,” rather than flee. However, both eventually conceded to the use of the "Southern Barbarians'" arquebus. And Shingen himself was probably killed by a sniper’s bullet around a decade later, the fodder for another famous Japanese film, Akira Kurosawa’s, Kagemusha (Shadow Warrior). As the firearm replaced the sword, so utility replaced honor.

    • @keef5586
      @keef5586 2 роки тому

      What film is this?

  • @Nemesis_T_Type
    @Nemesis_T_Type 3 роки тому +29

    People seriously need to watch the movie before commenting about honor or shooting a woman. Uesugi Kenshin shot Lady Yae for much deeper reason. Long story short, early in the film his loyal comrade got killed because of his weakness and hesitation. Kenshin realized his mistakes and vowed to gain back his resolve. Now Kenshin saw an opportunity to traverse the river without casualty on their side by killing Takeda's mistress. It's not about revenge or honor. It's pure tactical advantage. That is why Takeda's messenger congratulated Kenshin.

    • @RadCowify
      @RadCowify 11 місяців тому +2

      This is why the scene is so good. It *is* about honor and Samurai culture, but it's *also* about the characters and the events that occurred. That's the commentary the scene is communicating. Samurai culture has a very very very large emphasis on presentation and tradition among all else, which often gets conflated because of later concepts like Bushido trying to itemize concepts that evolved over many periods. Over the course of hundreds of years this basically culminated in the most prominent form during the Sengoku period and into the Edo period, which was that Samurai very often had to balance achieving their goals, or pragmatism, with presenting the "expected" or "required" virtues of being Samurai, typically honor and duty.
      The scene in question is the epitome of this, because Kagetora accomplishes a plethora of things in this one act whilst maintaining a public image of virtue. He eliminates a prominent enemy figure, demoralizes the enemy, convinces the enemy to quit the field, avenges his friend and retinue, doesn't dishonor himself by accepting single combat with a woman, honors Lady Yae by effectively defeating her in combat, and doesn't allow Lady Yae to have her challenge go unanswered and thus shamed by being called back by Takeda. Furthermore, Takeda is basically backed into a corner because of this action. If he were to ignore Lady Yae's death by Kagetora's shot, he would maintain the tactical advantage on the field, but he would forfeit Lady Yae's honor, and thus his. It would reflect poorly on him if his mistress were dishonored, and if he did not publicly recognize her death as significant that would be dishonorable to her. Thus, he congratulates Kagetora for his shot, which publicly acknowledges this as a single combat of honor, and subsequently quits the field with his force, which further acknowledges the value that Lady Yae had to him and his clan. Whether or not she was truly valuable or had made the correct decision is irrelevant, as to Samurai the public image is all that matters.
      It's not "textbook" Samurai behavior, it's *contemporary* Samurai behavior for the Sengoku period. This is exactly the kind of act that Sengoku period Daimyos are famous for and it communicates a lot about the period and politics in a very short duration. It's hilariously complex for how brief of a scene it is.

  • @vasilileung2204
    @vasilileung2204 6 років тому +1

    The scope of this movie. The landscape. The scale....my lord...

  • @michaelmixon2479
    @michaelmixon2479 5 років тому +6

    I love watching these film's even with the sub-titles!

    • @Baegitte
      @Baegitte 2 роки тому +2

      my heart goes out to anyone who watches films with dubbing rather than the original language..... what a shame.

  • @Xenophon1
    @Xenophon1 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for posting the video.

  • @masayan7765
    @masayan7765 3 роки тому +21

    財前直美ももちろんカッコイイんだが、この小室哲哉の音楽が素晴らしいんだよな

    • @user-bi1wv7vn9y
      @user-bi1wv7vn9y 2 роки тому

      お前、時代劇とか、歴史知らない
      低学歴だろ!
      誰が見ても最悪映画だぞ。
      頭悪い、育ち悪い、無教養が
      意見述べるな。恥かくぞ。

  • @JohnathanLeeSprite
    @JohnathanLeeSprite 3 роки тому +15

    This is why you don't bring a naginata to a gunfight.

  • @RightHandedMan25
    @RightHandedMan25 5 років тому +2

    this clips are life some day ill watch the movie i swear

  • @dongf2618
    @dongf2618 5 років тому +8

    I have to say this film portrayed the formations very accurately!

    • @kirgan1000
      @kirgan1000 8 місяців тому

      In the final battel, both army use diffrent formation, and the general say, they use fromation "somthing" we have been deceived. What frormation did they use and why did one have an advantage, with my untrained eye, both use a line of battel with reserves behind the main line.

  • @GVBiggs524
    @GVBiggs524 4 роки тому +10

    The movie is called "Heaven and Earth" if I remember it correctly. I saw this move when it first came out in 1990, almost 20 years ago and it was, as is now, an excellent movie.

    • @FrZX855
      @FrZX855 2 роки тому +2

      *30 years ago

  • @bendover9620
    @bendover9620 2 роки тому +4

    "You may attack us in the rear"
    Woah boy, no need to be that hasty.

  • @loslobos786
    @loslobos786 3 роки тому +6

    Truly one of the greatest Samurai movies ever made. I just wish it would get a wider release I don't think I've ever seen a DVD version in the west, a few VHS floating around but nothing else sad just sad.

    • @vitas5333
      @vitas5333 3 роки тому +1

      Yes agreed. I'd love to purchase this film somehow! Make you're you get Japanese kanji for the movie and use that to search. Full movie was up for a bit this year

    • @LordVader1094
      @LordVader1094 Рік тому +1

      Furthermore, the American version cuts out almost 20 minutes of footage which is terrible imo

  • @amonone399
    @amonone399 2 роки тому +3

    Heaven and Earth is a samurai classic, one of the best I have seen.

    • @reya346
      @reya346 Рік тому +1

      My fave is still 'Ran' (Kurosawa).

  • @user-wv2xn1ir6u
    @user-wv2xn1ir6u 4 роки тому +13

    懐かしい このシーンよく印象に残ってると同時にどういう意味だったのか若い時に観てよく考えてた。 史実じゃなくても不思議なシーンだった。

    • @user-mi4ge4lw3u
      @user-mi4ge4lw3u 3 роки тому +9

      相手を挑発して攻めるように誘いをかけているのです。挑発に乗らなかったとしても自らが殺されることで味方の士気が高まり相手の動揺を誘う。そのリスクを十分理解した上で銃撃した謙信と静観していた信玄。現代の感覚で言うとどちらもクズですが、一方で落馬した彼女の美しさが際立つ。

    • @ak47ja
      @ak47ja 2 роки тому

      知ったかぶりの人多いな~。八重の一騎打ちの呼びかけに応じることは武士としては難しいのです。理由は剛腕の武士が女と闘って討ち取ってもなんの名誉にもならないから。そして万が一負けでもしたら取り返しがつかない不名誉で越後兵にとって迷惑なだけの八重の行動なのです。なので大将謙信自ら、しかも彼が大嫌いと言っていた鉄砲でわざわざ撃ち殺したのです。なによりも越後兵の部下の名誉を守るために。

  • @freakyold
    @freakyold 7 років тому +163

    You really have to see the scene in the snow to understand why Kagetora had no compunction about killing her at a distance without giving her the honor of a warrior's death. Her aides had killed someone they thought to be an unarmed peasant right in front of him and she displayed no regret or remorse. She had even less respect for human life than most Samurai had at the time.

    • @ryannguyen7466
      @ryannguyen7466 5 років тому +7

      I thought honor is dead the moment guns were introduced to the fighting.

    • @Hachizukatenzo
      @Hachizukatenzo 5 років тому +18

      It's a warrior death, why it wouldn't be ? Teppo (musket) were part of the warrior arsenal in that time. And no, she wasn't killed because of this snow part (she did nothing wrong there, she just tried to control her horse). She got shot because she stepped out of her side of the river as a provocation. The othe onna musha with her stayed on the bank and weren't shot either. It's definitely a warrior death to boldly stand and provoke your enemy. Yae acted like a real samurai in this scene.

    • @Hachizukatenzo
      @Hachizukatenzo 5 років тому +27

      @@ryannguyen7466 It's a silly "last samurai movie" idea. There were guns on japanese battlefields from the middle of the 16th century. Every warlord used them in their armies. There were even special gun units like the Sakka Ikki lead by Magoichi Saika at that time.

    • @simle6010
      @simle6010 5 років тому +15

      @@Hachizukatenzo Even Saigo Takamori, who is the basis for the character of Katsumoto, used guns. The famous last charge massacre scene from Last Samurai did actually happen in real life, but it was only because Saigo Takamori's forces had run out ammunition for their muskets.

    • @MarquisLeary34
      @MarquisLeary34 4 роки тому +12

      @@ryannguyen7466 Hardley. The Samurai embraced firearms with little problem. One's marksmanship was held in equal regard to their archery or swordplay (and remember that swords having signifigance was recent by the Sengoku; a samurai who had to use his sword was one stupid enough to have lost his bow or spear). Shingen himself supposedly wrote some pretty nifty essays on the proper use of firearm equipped soldiers.

  • @alfonsovallejo2665
    @alfonsovallejo2665 3 роки тому +3

    This film looks so gorgeous, how hadn't I heard about it?

  • @Draven0seven
    @Draven0seven 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you, UA-cam algorithm. You did good today.

  • @hanchen2355
    @hanchen2355 2 роки тому +4

    The scene is so beautiful

  • @ProfessorOfPoorTaste
    @ProfessorOfPoorTaste 4 роки тому +6

    "You may attack us in the rear."
    Can't tell if sick burn, or overly polite.

    • @DalvaWolf
      @DalvaWolf 4 роки тому +5

      sound like "you may show us how dishonorable you are by backstabbing us"

    • @takayamuramoto4490
      @takayamuramoto4490 3 роки тому +1

      @@DalvaWolf That is about right.

  • @182roadwarrior
    @182roadwarrior 4 роки тому +23

    Heaven and Earth. One of the most beautiful films I have ever watched.

  • @inohaveshirt
    @inohaveshirt 8 років тому +111

    He shot her because she was being foolish. Lady Yae was trying to motivate/inspire her side by showing an act of bravery and by being fearless. Her foolish act instead caused her to be killed and dishearten Takeda and his army; causing them to retreat. Kagetora won the the stalemate battle with one shot instead of a bloody massacre of his troops fighting to cross a river.

    • @KittySN
      @KittySN  8 років тому +2

      +Mr. Washe washe This is a sound, strategic response. Thanks for sharing!

    • @mspencer243
      @mspencer243 8 років тому +18

      +Grathom15 well 2 atom bombs are better than eating shit food from mcdonalds.

    • @Neintralfershbdohfgo
      @Neintralfershbdohfgo 7 років тому +6

      +G WTF is wrong with you? Uesugi Kenshin is not all the Japanese people at the same time. Whatever he did, whatever your presidents have done to us, I don't hold it against you, because you are a different person, so don't hold it against the Japanese, because they are as individual as us.

    • @Neintralfershbdohfgo
      @Neintralfershbdohfgo 7 років тому +2

      I wish it was otherway. They don't need more democracy. They need a wise leader.

    • @maat-erovermind5962
      @maat-erovermind5962 7 років тому +4

      Neintralfershbdohfgo /USA is not a democracy. And a good leader will never come out of their ranks. Also do not feel bad because Americans often feel superior to any people. I'm Mexican so I know this first hand. Greetings to any Japanese on here. I love Sengoku Jidai and Japanese history :)

  • @179107199999
    @179107199999 11 років тому +2

    Heaven and Earth...That movie....Lady Yae and Uesugi's significant one were strong in their own ways.I miss this movie.

  • @Necrodermis
    @Necrodermis 5 років тому +12

    man that is some nice looking armor they have on

  • @paullianblantar2404
    @paullianblantar2404 8 років тому +5

    I think he had to shot at her, because she had launched a direct challenge to him, but he could not accept the challenge, for it was coming from a woman, even if she was an Onna-bugeisha and a Samurai, he could not accept her challenge, but the challenge had been now launched and it could not remain without an answer, so he had to kill her using a musket. On the other side, she already knew she was going to die, as Takeda-sama knew that she would not have come back. This is an enchanting story a gem, about Samurai, honor, death and the mutual relation between honor and death in Bushidō. Thanks for sharing.

    • @SilverforceX
      @SilverforceX 5 років тому +1

      No, he knew she was too strong and he could not defeat her in a duel, nor his men. If they lost, their troop's morale would be simply over and battle lost entirely.

    • @TogusaM207
      @TogusaM207 5 років тому +4

      @@SilverforceX lul, I hope you are trolling, she was shot because she was stupid. First it was foolish and daring to charge the enemy like that, if not an arquebus then a Yumi could have taken lady Yae out, and she knew it. Lady Yae was gambling that title and honor would protect her, but as others have pointed out she had no Honor, riding up like that was an insult to the man that died in the snow because she is a shabby rider, thus she was killed like the dog she was.

    • @lkvideos7181
      @lkvideos7181 5 років тому +4

      Mate. Sometimes you just gotta watch the movie ....
      Here's some context:
      she is indirectly responsible for the death of one of his servants / friends ( even though really it wasn't her fault at all but she is why he died and they were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time ). So he shot her for that.

    • @MuireKnight
      @MuireKnight 5 років тому +2

      @@lkvideos7181 That and the fact that Kagetora's friend died because she lost control of her horse in the snow. Her also putting on a show of how great her horsemanship is in this scene was doubly insulting.

  • @emperorofhistory8724
    @emperorofhistory8724 6 років тому +11

    I remember watching this and falling in love with it back in the 90's, but could never find a copy to own.
    After seeing this clip I really want a copy of this movie, but it is basically unavailable unless one is independently wealthy.

    • @billmark1157
      @billmark1157 5 років тому

      I think you can find it subbed on youtube, sometimes they're removed because of copyright though.

  • @zgSH4DOW
    @zgSH4DOW 11 років тому +21

    2:37 There, my friends, is the first recorded instance of the verbal "burn".

  • @Geistmeister6
    @Geistmeister6 12 років тому +190

    I miss when Japan made movies like this, they've taken a turn for the weird in the 21st century. Must be something in the water.

    • @EukalyptusBonBon
      @EukalyptusBonBon 4 роки тому +30

      Anime was an Mistake

    • @AroundElvesWatchUrselves96
      @AroundElvesWatchUrselves96 4 роки тому +3

      t. Miyazaki

    • @kn2549
      @kn2549 4 роки тому +32

      The “weird” Japanese media the rest of the world know of became more known to the rest of the world in the 90s. Alot of those things can be traced back even years before that. The only problem is that foreigners, especially westerners pick up on the weirdest trends from Japan that even Japanese people find weird and treat it as something thats common in Japan. Or, they completely misinterpret the meaning behind certain Japanese culture and trends to fit their own western narratives.

    • @atsukunisumeragi1967
      @atsukunisumeragi1967 4 роки тому +3

      Not the water, the political atmosphere. Although it is in great part Tezuka's subversive manga's fault, and from here anime in general ; even "good" anime such as GinEiDen is essentially subversive (in this case due to overdoses of Rationalism).

    • @nerthus4685
      @nerthus4685 4 роки тому

      @@atsukunisumeragi1967 Can you recommend any good samurai era anime, set in feudal Japan?

  • @vidman163
    @vidman163 9 років тому +158

    Kenshin is a hard scope camper. XD

    • @stevengreen9536
      @stevengreen9536 6 років тому +12

      @vidman163 Maybe but you must admit to hit a moving target like with a musket is pretty impressive. :)

    • @alanOHALAN
      @alanOHALAN 6 років тому +8

      she was barely moving, that was the cheapest shot ever.

    • @alanOHALAN
      @alanOHALAN 5 років тому +2

      @Tranhoang Long he probably practiced a lot

    • @iowadrummer7
      @iowadrummer7 4 роки тому

      Kenshin putting up that W anyway he can.

    • @brionacspear
      @brionacspear 4 роки тому +1

      finally he shot his doe

  • @vincentebaez2574
    @vincentebaez2574 Рік тому +2

    "Heaven and Earth," one of the finest movies ever made. 😎👍👍

  • @pistonar
    @pistonar 5 років тому +20

    That's a remarkably accurate shot for the weapons of the time. Massed muskets tended to fire into the enemy mass, not individual soldiers, and accuracy was very spotty above 40 yards.

    • @maizen1403
      @maizen1403 4 роки тому +7

      Yes it is, but there are some account of Japanese sniper with musket and jannisary sniper

    • @nebunezz_r
      @nebunezz_r 2 роки тому

      Kenshin's a crack shot.

  • @Zeruello
    @Zeruello Місяць тому

    It's wonderful how the Takeda's vassal insults Kagetora showering him with compliments.

  • @MinhOda978
    @MinhOda978 3 роки тому +4

    Wow.. even in battle they still bow and respect!!!

    • @hahdanghongha7810
      @hahdanghongha7810 2 роки тому +1

      to bow and to respect was learned first in battle. you bow to show submission. showing your neck without seeing other also demonstrate trust

  • @Prometheus4096
    @Prometheus4096 5 років тому +10

    Killing the girl forced the Takeda to retreat, winning the battle and saving lives short term on both sides.

  • @user-ix8kf3vm3t
    @user-ix8kf3vm3t 5 років тому +15

    財前直見カッコ良かったなあ!

  • @johnsanjuan9364
    @johnsanjuan9364 3 роки тому +6

    Samurais we’re Preparing for a Battle One Day At a Time!

  • @Kytolk
    @Kytolk 12 років тому +3

    great movie, and amazing scene, no doubt.

  • @khoapham1993
    @khoapham1993 11 років тому +5

    Even on the battle they respected each other, damn...

  • @shithorse3781
    @shithorse3781 2 роки тому +1

    watched as a kid never forgot

  • @gerryleb8575
    @gerryleb8575 Рік тому +1

    I just want to point out that this film takes place in the period 1450-1550, and the lady and her retainers are armored as if it were 1250. She is a real poseur.

  • @kodoan411
    @kodoan411 5 років тому +3

    Great movie, great scene.

  • @ringraptor4432
    @ringraptor4432 3 роки тому +6

    大人しい感じの女優さんと思っていたがこの時はめちゃ勇ましくて驚いた記憶がある。

  • @lkvideos7181
    @lkvideos7181 5 років тому +45

    Let's be honest here. We've all tried to snipe and canonball enemy generals with excitement and full prejudice in Shogun ^^

    • @Hachizukatenzo
      @Hachizukatenzo 5 років тому +3

      It's how Takeda Shingen (the general in red) actually die in the Kurosawa movie "Kagemusha".

    • @garzukathegamer
      @garzukathegamer 4 роки тому +1

      LKVideos fuck it, kisho ninja that bitch

  • @hanijinawi6985
    @hanijinawi6985 2 роки тому

    Aaaah that shot was sooo satisfying

  • @saizerio8056
    @saizerio8056 4 роки тому +23

    I would say that Kagetora shot Yae out of pity more than anything.
    As strange as it may sound, in those warring ages of the samurai it was more merciful to deal your opponent an honourable death than to leave them to face a life of shame. I believe this was reflected in the message from Takeda, wherein he praised the skill of Kagetora thus honouring Yae as having fallen at the hands of a more than worthy adversary.
    But I think his pity goes even deeper than that. What he pitied and what became her demise was her youth and naivete. As if she had sprung straight from the Tales of Genji, Yae had spurred her steed to enemy lines, clad in beautifully embroidered armor, and challenged them to a duel, all in fashion of those bygone chivalrous times. He's seen one too many youths, hearts burning with heroism, being trampled under hooves on muddy plains. She was living in a dream, a dream few wake from.
    An honourable challenge, shamelessly shot down by a cowardly bullet, some might say. But what sense is there for a general of an army to run down into enemy range to face off in a duel, not for any tactical advantage, but solely for the purpose of fulfilling a storybook fantasy? If he were to be slain or gunned down, what would become of his men, his family, his homeland? If he were to come out alive and victorious, the only thing it would prove to his men would be that brash heroism merits glory.
    But, I also want to argue that he did indeed respect her values in glory and honour. While all the soldiers were ridiculing the challenger, when Kagetora took his gun, no one was laughing. The least that bullet did, was spare everything from being a farce, his war and hers.
    His decision can neither be judged right or wrong.
    If she had lived would anything have changed? If she had been dragged off like a child, would she have sincerely faced her shame and immaturity? Or would her reckless bravado again afford her her own life, or cause the untimely death of another? From however much he knew of her, he made his decision.
    Was there vengeance at play? I must arguably say no, but as an audience, I can't help but feel a sour tinge of frustration towards Lady Yae. Her picturesque admiration towards war seems to have made her sadly oblivious to real-life consequences. Albeit an accident, it was her inability to control her horse that indirectly caused Kagetora's loyal follower to be slain. You'd think she would have felt some sort of remorse, but she just rides off without even taking a glance back. And then later, there she was, flaunting her horsemanship in front of both armies in all her righteousness, like she was Amaterasu incarnate.
    It's hard to believe any human being would take that without feeling an ounce of anger. But if Kagetora did have any grudges, he certainly didn't show it. He calmly readied his gun, took aim, and, without any haste or hesitation, pulled the trigger. And thereafter, his face betrayed not a single thread of content or regret. It was only a muted wave of pity that faltered his stern countenance.

  • @bartotek852
    @bartotek852 6 років тому

    OUR MAN ARE RUNNING FROM THE BATTLEFIELD!

  • @waltage
    @waltage 5 років тому +2

    such good artillery position...

  • @TheDekers04
    @TheDekers04 2 роки тому +1

    So that's how you talk to an enemy who carries a rifle into a sword fight.

  • @marcelpatrickyiu7753
    @marcelpatrickyiu7753 8 років тому +15

    Takeda Shingen was one of my Jpn idol.
    my favorite is Uesugi Kenshin.
    after Tokugakwa,
    there is no fun any more!!

  • @PureXRay
    @PureXRay 12 років тому +3

    The words from the messenger in the end of the movie show the respect for the enemy and touch me most.

  • @user-jn5dk9sx8f
    @user-jn5dk9sx8f Рік тому +1

    この映画を観るまで、”黒”という色が、これ程美しいものだとは思わなかった。
    もちろん、"赤"もだ。
    その、美しい色彩のコントラストの向こう側に「日本人」の魂を揺さぶる、香り、、、の様なものが漂い流れてくるようだ。
    美しい。

  • @kennerli8596
    @kennerli8596 4 роки тому

    nice shot~~

  • @freddiesawyer8055
    @freddiesawyer8055 3 роки тому +4

    I'm surprised nobody has commented this, but my I saw his reasoning for shooting her as follows:
    (My interpretation)
    This film is called "Heaven and Earth" and it is centered about Kagatora's inability to reconcile, being the noble, religious and morally correct protector of Echigo vs being the effective and decisive warlord he will need to be for Echigo to survive. His noble ideals are "Heaven", and our brutal nature is "Earth". ​At the start of the film he is a leader who hesitates in killing a mother and her child, culminating in becoming the leader we see here. Who is decisive and doesn't hesitate and shoots Lady Yae off her horse.
    I saw Lady Yae and her contingent as the idyllic representation of Bushido honor and the "samurai way". What happens to them? To continue the over-arching theme of the film, they represent an ideal "Heaven" and they ultimately are killed by the brutal nature of war "Earth". While noble and idyllic they are ultimately ineffective and its deliberately tragic how their lives are thrown away.

    • @marindraganov5897
      @marindraganov5897 3 роки тому +1

      In the movie the concept you describe is called ""Heaven and Earth"" but at essence it is the yin and the yang: Remember the round diagram with the black and white that interlock within themselves? That is the same thing.
      So which is better? The Heaven or the Earth? Neither!!! But when you step on the BORDER of the two, ONLY then you can have the best of the both worlds and this is where the real victory is: Having the spirit to do great things (Heaven) but be practical how to do it in the most rational way (Earth).

    • @freddiesawyer8055
      @freddiesawyer8055 3 роки тому +1

      @@marindraganov5897 I really like your analysis thank you!

  • @user-jv4sl5im8j
    @user-jv4sl5im8j 2 роки тому +3

    謎の映画の中でも謎のシーン

  • @anindhitadwiutami5117
    @anindhitadwiutami5117 5 років тому +3

    best soundtrack 👍👍

  • @MrZanaxXx
    @MrZanaxXx 10 років тому +35

    The movie explain everything why don't send out cav with river penalty against matchlock...art of war =P
    I have seen this movie and love the story about Uesugi Kenshin and Takeda Shingen, I recommend this movie =)

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 6 років тому +1

      Yeah and unlike the low budget war movies we see from Japan nowadays, this movie was produced with a lot of satisfying war scenes.

    • @daigokil
      @daigokil 6 років тому

      nomooon title of the movie please

    • @nomooon
      @nomooon 6 років тому +2

      daigo hakurio heaven and earth , made in 1990, main character is uesugi kenshin

  • @jubei2154
    @jubei2154 2 роки тому +1

    Scale of this scene is immense. Ten To Chi To

  • @ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155
    @ungeimpfterrusslandtroll7155 3 роки тому +3

    Back to the kitchen.

  • @althesmith
    @althesmith 5 років тому +1

    I think she realised that war had changed, times had changed- the old ways were going to die and it was time for her to die as well.

  • @stevenmarler5154
    @stevenmarler5154 8 років тому +11

    It was a clash of philosophy, between the world of the warrior and its chivalry and honor and the world of the soldier and its desire for total victory no matter the cost. See Mr. Machiavelli if you have any further questions.

  • @alphaomega8373
    @alphaomega8373 4 роки тому

    Really made memad and sad at the same time.

  • @samspade2657
    @samspade2657 3 роки тому +2

    reminds of that scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

  • @wael4070
    @wael4070 6 років тому

    Takeda badass. I like that movie

  • @nappyheaded
    @nappyheaded 5 років тому +5

    I watched this a couple of times on the action channel in the early 2000's. I really enjoyed it. You guys need to watch the whole movie to understand the real reason why he killed her. He does do something bad in the movie but he's sickened by it and wants to give up war. I don't want to spoil anything but you should watch the whole movie if you like this clip.

  • @vidman163
    @vidman163 11 років тому +3

    Date Masamune's armour was a slight replica of one of Uesugi Kenshin's many pieces of armour. In fact Kenshin even had European armour.

    • @MarquisLeary34
      @MarquisLeary34 4 роки тому

      I thought that was Ieayasu who modeled it after European single plate? Wait, no, Euro armor when the samurai could get some really was popular, so perhaps...

  • @1976061833
    @1976061833 7 років тому +6

    財前直見さん、今でも頑張ってますよね!

    • @Amichans
      @Amichans 5 років тому

      宮沢りえにしか見えなかった@_@;

    • @user-vi8nx9pk9p
      @user-vi8nx9pk9p 4 роки тому

      沢口靖子に見えた

  • @Hindentanic
    @Hindentanic 8 років тому +6

    In a similar scene in this same movie, leading the Takeda army at another of the Battles of Kawanakajima is a drum-beating procession of Shinto monks, drummer boys, and priestesses carried on portable shrine palanquins. The vivid taiko procession is probably supposed to attract and thunderously proclaim the divine protection of the gods upon the advancing army. Kagetora's arquebus picket line simply guns down the sacred palanquins, drummer boys, and the white-robed priestesses, coldly showing the real value of divine protection in the new era of gunpowder. The Portuguese matchlock musket had first appeared at Tanegashima only ten years before the first Battle of Kawanakajima, but its rapid spread after Japanese weapons smiths reverse-engineered it was changing the nature of samurai warfare.

    • @BigHenFor
      @BigHenFor 5 років тому

      Thank you. You've summed up why the ideological interpretations of the event actually short-change the cultural dimension of the story. It is rarely acknowledged that the sword wasn't the primary weapon of the Samurai. It was the Bow. So, using this range weapon to kill was an honourable act if the requisite ritual was observed between equals. The arrival of firearms changed that. Lady Yae perhaps clung into an outmoded model of engagement, and paid the price.

  • @user-ue4ks1lu7t
    @user-ue4ks1lu7t 4 роки тому +8

    このシーンの一部は劇場版でカットされてますよね
    (陣を構えて既に何日…
    八重に言い返す謙信の家臣の場面)

  • @asheer9114
    @asheer9114 5 років тому +3

    Movies like this show how STUPID was, for example, The Last Samurai premise that Japanese soldiers "never" came in contact with firearms prior events in the movie very loosely based on the Boshin War and final end of the Shogunate in Japan... when it was Nobunaga who first introduced firearms and artillery bought from Portugal to his troops, and later on many of the Daimios adopted firearms use in their troops with Tokugawa on the top.

    • @MarquisLeary34
      @MarquisLeary34 4 роки тому +1

      That was one reason i refused to even watch The Last Samurai. Japan had never come in contact with firearms...HELLO, BATTLE OF NAGASHINO?! SEKI fucking GAHARA? Old Shingen himself was said to have written treatises on the proper strategic uses of gunlines.

  • @howleme5903
    @howleme5903 Рік тому

    nice shot

  • @user-xs9gg5hk5p
    @user-xs9gg5hk5p Місяць тому

    Although she was laughed at for being a woman, Kenshin recognized her as a samurai and shot her.

  • @GaijinAbroad
    @GaijinAbroad 11 років тому +2

    Yeah it's confusing, though that kamon is personal to Uesugi Kenshin, rather than the Uesugi as a whole. I'd say the helmet crest is a tad smaller than Masamune's, but still very similar.

  • @user-ks6vp8tb2r
    @user-ks6vp8tb2r 2 роки тому +2

    この静と動な感じ嫌いじゃない

  • @VaregianEisselor
    @VaregianEisselor 11 років тому +4

    I would recommend reading Taiko from Eiji Yoshikawa...that is the book you are looking for.

  • @joehill4094
    @joehill4094 3 роки тому +3

    Honor is just a word, and if I am going to die for word, my word's poontang.

    • @samisam7190
      @samisam7190 3 роки тому

      Honor is not a word.and be original and come up with a word your own instead of stealing it from a movie. Full metal jacket

    • @joehill4094
      @joehill4094 3 роки тому

      @@samisam7190 imagine getting this salty over a random youtube comment lol

    • @samisam7190
      @samisam7190 3 роки тому

      @@joehill4094 I can imagine

    • @samisam7190
      @samisam7190 3 роки тому

      You got cought in a state of unoriginality..

  • @abettertomorrow5928
    @abettertomorrow5928 3 роки тому +5

    Lesson.. Don't bring a blade to a gun fight...

  • @delryn256
    @delryn256 10 років тому +140

    Weird to think this was filmed in Canada with mostly Canadian extras.

    • @billhahn4113
      @billhahn4113 5 років тому +11

      There probably aren't that many horses in all of Japan.

    • @chiuansheng
      @chiuansheng 5 років тому +9

      @@billhahn4113 not enough trained horses for movie.

    • @yoyoma2831
      @yoyoma2831 5 років тому +1

      how do you know this?

    • @dwightstjohn6927
      @dwightstjohn6927 5 років тому +28

      @@yoyoma2831 it was shot outside Lethbridge, Alberta. I had the film poster. You could see the Richardson ground squirrels on the prairie grass, wondering wtf was going on!!!!

    • @charmander777
      @charmander777 5 років тому

      @@dwightstjohn6927 lol

  • @AuraOFnumbBliss
    @AuraOFnumbBliss 12 років тому

    and it comes full circle

  • @fatalcode4996
    @fatalcode4996 3 роки тому +1

    that arquebus should have missed her LOL. Its a Movie after all.

  • @mynameiserlin9664
    @mynameiserlin9664 4 роки тому +5

    "Owah General Is in Gwave Danger Mai Rord"

  • @QBQBQ-w7m
    @QBQBQ-w7m 3 роки тому +1

    神質感。

  • @bakchormee2859
    @bakchormee2859 3 роки тому +2

    Kenshin's left hand man should have said "We don't beat woman." In feudal Japan, a woman inviting a challenge would be taken as an insult to a man, whatmore when the man in question is a warlord.

  • @BelgianDneprGuy2003
    @BelgianDneprGuy2003 3 роки тому +8

    When you suddenly hear the "Lone Ranger soundtrack: Finale" from Hans Zimmer being played on an instrument in the beginning

  • @user-zm7le1st8g
    @user-zm7le1st8g 7 місяців тому +1

    By killing her he stopped a battle that would of probably killed thousands.

  • @captainsternn7684
    @captainsternn7684 2 роки тому +1

    Nute Gunray would love this Kagetora fellow

  • @Eternal-nr7gt
    @Eternal-nr7gt 2 роки тому +1

    Movie is called Heaven and Earth

  • @KittySN
    @KittySN  11 років тому +11

    Personally, I'm amused by the "enemy scout" remark during Yae's approach when the army is in clear view. If I were to send a scout, I wouldn't send in full frontal view of the enemy army. ^_~

    • @NOVemberMan-Esq
      @NOVemberMan-Esq 5 років тому +6

      Translation challenge... an advanced party, probing not specifically scouting stealthily

    • @pentuplove6542
      @pentuplove6542 4 роки тому

      Ignorant of true intent. Translations aren't always perfect.

    • @benlex5672
      @benlex5672 2 роки тому

      @@NOVemberMan-Esq it means scout party when used as a noun. Roman scouts were light cavalry. This is no different

  • @rainbow-iz9ws
    @rainbow-iz9ws 3 роки тому +5

    まあ財前(女武者)でも部下を殺された謙信の仇討みたいな側面がありますからね・・・。(この前編に当たる二時間ドラマの方で、謙信が出奔するときの雪道で財前の馬が暴れて謙信の部下が無礼討ちにあったんですね・・・・(馬に蹴り殺されたかどっちか))

    • @user-kv5lf6db8k
      @user-kv5lf6db8k Рік тому

      そのシーンはドラマではなく映画本編の方ですよ。

  • @user-cv8ev6cl8t
    @user-cv8ev6cl8t 3 роки тому +4

    この作品って金だけはあったよな。
    演出と脚本は何もかも酷すぎたけど
    失敗した点は
    ・この後出てくる女武者達が果敢に上杉軍に突撃するが鎧袖一触で屠られる
    ・謎の太鼓をならすだけの武田の部隊が無駄に護衛も連れず戦場に出てきて無抵抗に上杉軍に屠られる
    ・上杉謙信の突撃を武田軍が誰も止めようとせず、本陣に突撃を許す。その上、芭蕉で刀を受け止める信玄の描写もなく本陣は空。なんかチャンバラ(実際殺陣として未熟にも程がある)して信玄敗北。何故かトドメを刺さず謙信は本陣へ凱旋(何故か武田軍は道をあける)。
    役者さんをバカにはしたくないけど、あまりにも酷い出来だったわ。キャストの乗馬だけは本当に上手かったし音楽は良かったかなぁって思える作品かな

    • @user-kv5lf6db8k
      @user-kv5lf6db8k Рік тому

      『甲陽軍鑑』では軍配で床几に座った信玄が、馬上の謙信の太刀を受け止める描写となってますが、『北越軍談』では馬上の一騎打ちとなってますし、その場面も古くから描かれてますから間違いではないんですよ。

    • @user-cv8ev6cl8t
      @user-cv8ev6cl8t Рік тому

      @@user-kv5lf6db8k
      北越軍談でも「初太刀をば軍配団扇を以て受留め、伐折られたり」と初太刀は芭蕉で受け止めてるよ

  • @kaypee6404
    @kaypee6404 Рік тому +1

    its not because of revenge, Kagetora shot her because she cross the boundary line (the river). you can see Kagetora take that gun when lady Yae is at the river. Lady Yae know that her action will claim her life but she determine to do it anyways in the hope that the battle will begin.

  • @billmark1157
    @billmark1157 5 років тому +2

    I have no idea how this movie only has a 7.1 on IMDB, people really have no taste.