What If General Grievous Joined the Rebel Alliance

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  • General Grievous was the leader of the CIS during the Clone Wars. What would've happened if he was able to join the Alliance if he survived? How would General Grievous survive what Obi Wan put him through? Who would General Grievous align himself with? Would he be able to assist the rebels to victory, or would his presence help an Imperial smear campaign?
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  • @Aiden-wg4pu
    @Aiden-wg4pu 4 місяці тому +991

    Saw Gerrara: “Were you killed?”
    Grievous: “Sadly, yes… But I lived!”

    • @blockbuilder4762
      @blockbuilder4762 2 місяці тому +14

      I love that reference!

    • @nnif9050
      @nnif9050 2 місяці тому +11

      a Beautiful Grave you got there would be a shame if someone rose from it

    • @kaleeshsynth9994
      @kaleeshsynth9994 2 місяці тому +11

      Somehow Grievous returned

  • @y.n.tryone4683
    @y.n.tryone4683 5 місяців тому +1790

    I could imagine grievous , maul and Vader all going on a man hunt for kenobi 😂 . All three of them pulling up to tattooine 😂

    • @thecatfather857
      @thecatfather857 5 місяців тому +130

      We need Pente to do this for April Fools now.

    • @TheUncivilizedNation
      @TheUncivilizedNation 5 місяців тому +138

      Get Luke killed any percent speed run

    • @sovietunionball1290
      @sovietunionball1290 4 місяці тому +39

      There needs to be a fanfiction or fan art of this now 😂

    • @AzrealTheDemon
      @AzrealTheDemon 4 місяці тому +45

      gets jumped by all three not using their lightsabers

    • @tronovonflidder775
      @tronovonflidder775 4 місяці тому +45

      @@sovietunionball1290
      Unfortunately that wouldn't make very much sense. Grievous killed Maul's mother. Maul killed Qui-Gon so Vader would have issues there. And Grievous is a loose cannon so who knows if he'd respect Vader enough to work with him.

  • @dakotalange2858
    @dakotalange2858 5 місяців тому +1126

    General Gerivious “Hello there”
    Obi wan “General Gerivious?”

    • @metal_pipe9764
      @metal_pipe9764 3 місяці тому +47

      His name is literally in the title and you still spelt it wrong

    • @Stirfry47
      @Stirfry47 3 місяці тому +13

      ​ That's truly unfortunate @meetal_pepe7946

    • @Soundwave_Superior_45
      @Soundwave_Superior_45 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Stirfry47mmm
      MONKE

    • @WorldWalker128
      @WorldWalker128 2 місяці тому +16

      @@metal_pipe9764 Maybe Obi-wan simply misremembered his name. It has been awhile since they last met.

    • @Darth_Imaginus
      @Darth_Imaginus 2 місяці тому +10

      Nah, that's him fighting off a stroke after seeing Grievous.

  • @happybalint
    @happybalint 5 місяців тому +807

    Imagine he took the inquisitors' blades, turned on the spinning and made his hands spin too for some extra rotation per second lmao

    • @MusingSprite3045
      @MusingSprite3045 4 місяці тому +115

      LOL. They could probably be used to make air vortexes then!

    • @nathanpierce7681
      @nathanpierce7681 4 місяці тому +159

      this is the moment grievous became a v-22 osprey

    • @sawkman2092
      @sawkman2092 4 місяці тому +78

      That is the only method that I would consider the Inquisi-copters feasible.

    • @carebloodlaevathein6732
      @carebloodlaevathein6732 4 місяці тому +24

      ​@@nathanpierce7681 more like "became 2(!) V-22 Ospreys" XDD

    • @alexanderkidonakis9185
      @alexanderkidonakis9185 3 місяці тому +28

      He’d just fly away on accident

  • @locoarticwolf2181
    @locoarticwolf2181 5 місяців тому +510

    All those Inquisitor Lightsabers for his collection.

    • @navarog378
      @navarog378 4 місяці тому +49

      He could double spin them
      Terrifying

    • @johnjoe5846
      @johnjoe5846 4 місяці тому +39

      @@navarog378 quad copter Grievous

    • @spooky_lxix9042
      @spooky_lxix9042 3 місяці тому +26

      Im imagining grievous flying with all of the four lightsaber

    • @ManFaceManYes
      @ManFaceManYes 3 місяці тому +5

      A fine addition to his collection

    • @UltraInstinctB4rd0ck
      @UltraInstinctB4rd0ck 3 місяці тому +4

      Anyone else read @locoarticwolf2181 s comment in darth vaders voice?

  • @OuterRimPride
    @OuterRimPride 3 місяці тому +130

    “Oh, they killed all the Jedi? Well, that’s good I guess.”

  • @Project_Prescott
    @Project_Prescott 3 місяці тому +277

    I want to see a retired General Grievous fishing now

    • @kingbasilisk7880
      @kingbasilisk7880 3 місяці тому +53

      Grievous casually fishing on Ahch-To and reels in Anakin’s saber: no way…

    • @BlueSkyBirdies
      @BlueSkyBirdies 2 місяці тому +39

      ​@@kingbasilisk7880 *PLEASED "FINE ADDITION" NOISES*

    • @alexanderzippel8809
      @alexanderzippel8809 2 місяці тому +16

      These fish will make a fine addition to my collection

    • @cube_2593
      @cube_2593 2 місяці тому +12

      But with 4 rods at the same time

    • @comicsansisagoodfont2634
      @comicsansisagoodfont2634 2 місяці тому +6

      @@cube_2593the moment a fish bites it just gets deathrolled by his spinning arms

  • @Khornecussion
    @Khornecussion 2 місяці тому +129

    Every morning in the coffee room " General Kenobi. " ' *Sigh* ... Hello there, Grievous. '

  • @Magnus-the-red.
    @Magnus-the-red. 4 місяці тому +422

    ST: "Admiral Yularen, enemies have boarded the ship and are being spear headed by some...droid wielding...light...sabers!?"
    Admiral Yularen: "No matter keep firing, your shots will eventually h-"
    ST: "It calls itself Grievous sir."
    Admiral Yularen: *Rammenstein stare*

  • @lorkantheone2350
    @lorkantheone2350 4 місяці тому +206

    Imagine Obi Wan sitting on Tatooine, to protect luke from Vader, and then after 5 years looking up into the galaxy, just to see his apprentice and the emperor dead, the seperatists won the war, and his arch nemisis beeing named Hero of the Democracy.

    • @nickobrien8043
      @nickobrien8043 Місяць тому +42

      This actually kinda cool to think about. Yeah Obi wan would be shocked, but he would be more impressed and thankful that someone that was an enemy became a force of good

    • @ellamiller2289
      @ellamiller2289 24 дні тому

      A cowardly moron like Grevious wouldn't stand a chance against the Empire

  • @pagawn1640
    @pagawn1640 5 місяців тому +355

    The idea of Luke being a reluctant apprentice to Grievous is crazy.

  • @tainoman7905
    @tainoman7905 5 місяців тому +795

    I'm hoping this story does something others didn't. Grievous is a proud Kaleesh warrior despite his alliance with the Separatists, the only reason he never returned to the planet was because the Separatists refused to let him cause they wanted to use him like a droid.
    Here I'm hoping Grievous regains some of his past self returning to Kalee and fighting alongside his people again with the Rebellion.

    • @billyholland5156
      @billyholland5156 5 місяців тому +109

      in legends, one of the clone wars comics revealed dooku let him reach near brain death so as to more effectively reprogram him and alter his personality.

    • @russianoverkill3715
      @russianoverkill3715 3 місяці тому +13

      Proud warrior cultures always lose to the industrial capabality.

    • @billyholland5156
      @billyholland5156 3 місяці тому

      tell that to the kaleesh during the Kaleesh imperial war. they brutalized imperial forces despite no outside support a decade, until thrawn came in. and even then the current warlord S'kar (a former general of Grievous back in his pre-cyborg days) was made one of the highest-ranking generals in the Empire, and the kaleesh were granted local autonomy and self-governance. For their defiance and "losing the war" they reserved a better deal from the empire than almost any other alien species got. The kaleesh "lost" on paper...but when taken in context of how everyone else fared under the empire even when they DIDN'T rebel, did they really lose? all that legends canon.@@russianoverkill3715

    • @generalxaviat1078
      @generalxaviat1078 3 місяці тому +17

      ​@@russianoverkill3715This was more or less what happened to him too already, his people were finally starting to win but his opponents were in the republic so they had the infrastructure and outside help to turn the situation upside down.
      Tough man, the Jedi do kinda of suck since how the hell they didn't sense ANY of the stuff their "allies" were doing to the Kaleesh is still beyond me.

    • @russianoverkill3715
      @russianoverkill3715 3 місяці тому +2

      @@generalxaviat1078 oh get out of here with your "jedi bad" misconception, yeah Jedi helped enemies of Kaleesh, so what? Jedi are not perfect, but at the end of the day they're the good guys of morally binary universe that the Star Wars is. And you're probably taking the situation out of context, but I'm not sure, since I didn't read it.

  • @brothers_of_nod
    @brothers_of_nod 5 місяців тому +433

    I like that Grevous did become the way he did, and I always did think he could beat Vader, those cybernetics were top notch while Vader's were relics.

    • @johnwinchesterp2963
      @johnwinchesterp2963 4 місяці тому +104

      Without the force I can see grievous winning. Anakin was slow with his armor while grievous at max speed could make 18 lightsaber strikes per second. No matter how strong vader was the difference of speed would have been too much without the force to help him.

    • @AndrewAce.
      @AndrewAce. 4 місяці тому +56

      I can definitely see an early Vader losing...

    • @tronovonflidder775
      @tronovonflidder775 4 місяці тому +56

      @@johnwinchesterp2963
      Vader couldn't even beat Karbin alone. And Karbin was a far less experienced and skilled Grievous, albeit more advanced. Also if you take into account that Grievous always dominated Kenobi in saber combat during TCW, and even defeated him literally within 10 seconds during Crystal Criss while Vader can't even beat a peak Kenobi once, it suggests that General Grievous has a very good shot at beating Darth Vader.

    • @johnwinchesterp2963
      @johnwinchesterp2963 4 місяці тому +26

      @@tronovonflidder775 With the force vader might have won against karbin but without it I doubt it. I also consider grievous as superior to karbin. Grievous has received training from dooku who has one of the best lightsaber duelists ever and grievous had dozens of jedi kills. A more advanced body can't compensate for the experience grievous had.

    • @masteryoghurt2110
      @masteryoghurt2110 4 місяці тому +22

      ​@@AndrewAce. Early yeah but Fallen Order Vader and his older versions would kill Grievous quite easily. Grievous was powerful enough to kill any inqiustor easily though.

  • @Haggysack2k8
    @Haggysack2k8 4 місяці тому +815

    Imagine Obi-Wan hearing this on Tatooine. Imagine him hearing, that Grievous not only survived, but also became a rebel alliance hero.
    In good old fashion, Ben would probably chuckle at the thought of this and would move on with his daily routines.
    He has another meaningful task at hand.

    • @Chimera262
      @Chimera262 3 місяці тому +40

      I'd fucking scream

    • @russianoverkill3715
      @russianoverkill3715 3 місяці тому +27

      Stalking a boy, instead of teaching him in the ways of the force from the young age? Yeah sure, veeery meaningful task

    • @GTAfan421
      @GTAfan421 3 місяці тому +40

      @@russianoverkill3715 Lmao, this is the funniest take on it. I honestly agree completely, but its consistently waved away by the excuse that Vader would be able to sense Luke (supposedly because he'd be too powerful by the age he is in ANH). If that were the case, how are there so many other jedis that survived for so long after Order 66? Idk, I've had an issue with that plot hole since I was like 14. As soon as I thought critically about the saga, honestly.

    • @russianoverkill3715
      @russianoverkill3715 3 місяці тому +12

      @@GTAfan421 star wars is only good when you turn your brain off, that's what millions of star wars fans are doing right now.

    • @LeetleToady7
      @LeetleToady7 3 місяці тому +18

      ⁠@@GTAfan421 I mean, it is possible that it's also because Luke is Vader's son.
      Or Ben just wanted to wait until Luke sought him out on his own terms (or Artoo's I guess)

  • @mina551000
    @mina551000 5 місяців тому +572

    Thank you. Finally a story where grievous can shine. He is my favourite character, so I really enjoyed this episode.

    • @PentePatrolStarWars
      @PentePatrolStarWars  5 місяців тому +55

      I’m so glad you enjoyed!

    • @lordchaos3090
      @lordchaos3090 4 місяці тому +34

      @@PentePatrolStarWarsFinally after years of useless waiting, a story that puts my favourite sw character into the spotlight

    • @AGiantTalkingLizard
      @AGiantTalkingLizard 4 місяці тому

      Grievous is the goat like he should've been like in the 2d animated version @@lordchaos3090

    • @jonathanz.9675
      @jonathanz.9675 4 місяці тому +10

      My favorite too

    • @bighorn6964
      @bighorn6964 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@PentePatrolStarWars dude u got my sub

  • @PLScypion
    @PLScypion 2 місяці тому +10

    General Grevious in this timeline: You either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become the hero. Literally.

  • @crlsniper
    @crlsniper 4 місяці тому +192

    Probably the best sign of how good this video was, the comment section is actually talking about it instead of being 80% just more what ifs.

  • @hunterv9983
    @hunterv9983 5 місяців тому +353

    I really wanna see an old General Grievous come out of retirement to fight against the Yuuzhan Vong

    • @janvandepoel5748
      @janvandepoel5748 5 місяців тому +90

      the vong, attacking the galaxy: What is that?
      Grievous, ignigting 4 lightsabers in a hallway on their ship: I'm gonna do a skywalker.

    • @rileyrusso8518
      @rileyrusso8518 5 місяців тому +21

      ​@@janvandepoel5748 😂 I heard that in his voice.

    • @TheUncivilizedNation
      @TheUncivilizedNation 5 місяців тому +60

      The Vong would absolutely hate Grievous and the Droid Army. And the inverse would be true. It would be a very bloody conflict that results in the annihilation of the Vong but also 90% of the galaxy

    • @hunterv9983
      @hunterv9983 5 місяців тому +32

      @@TheUncivilizedNation
      Tactically speaking, it would make sense if Grievous and his droid forces act as distraction to give the others some time.

    • @berkaltuglu8140
      @berkaltuglu8140 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@janvandepoel5748*Chuckles in ashtmatic cyborg*

  • @Mynameisjedf
    @Mynameisjedf 5 місяців тому +1290

    I'm gonna assume he doesn't kill Kenobi and so he escapes and Kenobi lives and then he puts it together that Palpatine is Sidious and he joins the Rebel alliance because his Master abandoned him (Sidious)
    Edit: This was predicted before the start of the premiere

    • @wargamesmaster
      @wargamesmaster 5 місяців тому +89

      And betrayed Dooku who trained Grievous.

    • @Prestiged_peck
      @Prestiged_peck 5 місяців тому +65

      This aged poorly.
      He was saved by the miracle of medicine and rebellious magnaguard droids

    • @Mynameisjedf
      @Mynameisjedf 5 місяців тому +57

      @@Prestiged_peck aged poorly and also aged well since he did seek revenge on sidious for casting him aside essentially

    • @teedepefanio4974
      @teedepefanio4974 5 місяців тому +10

      ..and...
      he never killed Kenobi, anyway...
      Where did that come from?

    • @lucafortunato_
      @lucafortunato_ 5 місяців тому +9

      @@teedepefanio4974kenobi killing him*

  • @JeanLucCaptain
    @JeanLucCaptain 4 місяці тому +42

    "I AM GENERAL GREVIOUS, EVEN IN DEATH I SERVE KALEESH!"

  • @surge1229
    @surge1229 4 місяці тому +34

    finally a story where the galaxy is saved by someone who is not a space wizard

  • @rojack79er
    @rojack79er 5 місяців тому +194

    That was awesome!!! Loved how it flipped the script on The General and made him into an actual hero!!

  • @Lego_Bro2
    @Lego_Bro2 3 місяці тому +30

    I am so glad Grievous is actually able to get a happy ending, I couldn’t imagine a story where Grievous gets to retire! 😀

  • @jasonalcatraz5817
    @jasonalcatraz5817 4 місяці тому +53

    I like the idea of Grievous being heralded as a hero and ends up having a slight Superman moment where he steps onto Coruscant and the people kinda "swarm" him and venerate him as their great hero. Imagine the absolute confusion he would be feeling in that moment as he's always been seen as a monster and never cared about being viewed like any hero. Now here he is being hailed as one and probably has no idea how to react.
    I can imagine though it sparks up some memories of his life as a Khaleesh warrior back when he was treated as the hero of his people and he has a genuine moment of "I forgot how good this feels to be respected."

    • @ThePalaeontologist
      @ThePalaeontologist 4 місяці тому +12

      I mean, on Coruscant _specifically_ I think that is rather unlikely. Although it would have theoretically 'been a while' since the Battle of Coruscant, that _and_ the campaigns of terror leading up to it, in which Grievous literally killed millions if not billions, left the Galactic Republic citizenry _very_ scared of Grievous. Palpatine (as Sidious) allowed Grievous to become this deliberate boogeyman and Grievous didn't give a damn about collateral. At one point in the Battle of Coruscant, he straight up had wave after wave of Vulture Droids just doing kamikaze runs directly into the skyscrapers of the ecumenopolis, even as starship hulks were plummeting into the city-planet from low to high orbit, as gravity did the rest.
      Gigantic blast craters from exploding warships killed many thousands on the surface (each time) if not millions in such a densely populated place. Grievous disgorged literally _millions_ of Battle Droids onto the planet's surface attacking in all directions, seemingly randomly and without tactical concern. In a lot of ways, this was hugely wasteful, and played into the hands of the defenders. However, the sheer weight of Droid forces meant that even being deployed chaotically (on purpose, to try and mask Grievous's true mission to 'capture' Palpatine), they _still_ were pushing Clone and Jedi defence units to their limits.
      They were held at inner city chokepoints or on main bridges, but only barely. In orbit, the Republic Home Fleet had taken harrowing casualties as most of them didn't even have their shields activated when the Separatist Fleet blasted out of hyperspace, 4,000 plus ships strong. Hundreds and hundreds of Republic ships had already been lost, wreckage showering all over Coruscant (most of their crews wiped out and entire capital ships simply obliterated and turned into debris)
      When we see Anakin and Obi-Wan over Coruscant, they are arriving with massive Republic reinforcements and by that late phase of the battle, which had already lasted over a day already, the beaten up and bloodied Separatist fleet had spent a long time slogging it out in low orbit at great cost to their own, and their starfighter wings/swarms were depleted (even so, thousands if not tens of thousands of Droid Starfighters were still out there even when Kenobi and Skywalker got on-board _The Invisible Hand_ and went after Dooku and Grievous. Most of the Battle of Coruscant had already happened and barely any of the original Republic Home Fleet (if any at all) had survived to that point. Whatever was left of it, if anything at all, would have been pinned down in very low orbit fighting for it's life and with hammered shields and failing hull integrity.
      The Open Circle Fleet arrived and a _gigantic_ force in addition to that, of over 1,000 fresh _Venator_-class Star Destroyers which the Jedi Order wasn't even aware of at the time (Palpatine's new, private fleet of those vessels) And between the heroics of Yoda and Windu planet-side, and Kenobi and Skywalker in orbit, the depleted CIS Navy elements were effectively _trapped_ between Coruscant and it's higher orbit. Increasingly, the reinforcements turned the tide with their fresh and less battle-damaged ships. CIS warships tend to need a numerical advantage (3 or 4 to 1) to stand up to Republic capital ships, so >1,000 brand new ones suddenly appearing was by itself a force to be reckoned with even for the CIS Fleet as it _had_ been a day earlier before all the carnage thus far.
      Point in explaining all this being, that literally millions and millions of people were dying. Straying missiles slamming into high rises, warships just flattening entire residential blocks as they crashed into the planet. Revenge Of The Sith doesn't really portray the aftermath very well in the film (it all looks like it's hunkydory and business as usual. In truth, the city-planet would be pockmarked with warship reactor detonations, burning skyscrapers, swarms of civilians on the streets shouting for aid and food after their homes were destroyed. Sheer chaos. It looks far too sanitised - for the sake of narrative convenience - in the scenes after 'Another happy landing'. It's as if nothing happened. That was always bogus to me. Half the Senate District should have been on fire and a smouldering, smoke billowing nightmare with the wailing of thousands audible on the wind, because of the sheer scale of the slaughter.
      Clone Trooper and Clone crew losses would have been staggering, and the quippy, happy-go-lucky attitude of Kenobi and Skywalker post-battle, as in the film, shouldn't have really been how they were behaving (in spite of the important victory and the death of Count Dooku) In fairness, dozens of Jedi including some esteemed Jedi Knights and Jedi Masters, had been slain in the battle. They should not be so chipper and happy about things. They should be solemn and acknowledge the fact that Coruscant had barely avoided a much larger humanitarian catastrophe. Billions could have perished. Millions _certainly_ would have. But apparently, Palpatine 'got the cleaners in' and it was all back to normal in a few hours? WTF? lol
      And Grievous would be forever remembered in hushed tones, as the _monster_ whom inflicted all this horror, slaughter and terror on Coruscant. They'd never forget him, especially as the Separatists were further vilified in the Imperial Era. Palpatine was playing 5D chess at that point. He already knew how Grievous would be remembered, as a useful pro-Imperial propaganda tool, for decades after his planned demise.
      Palpatine could have turned Grievous inside out and back to front with a small gesture and expression of his terrifying Force capabilities, though that was just not the point of it all. It was all staged to further lull the Jedi into the trap of Order 66 and to facilitate the end game of his plans, regarding the awkward matter of replacing his powerful yet ageing apprentice, Darth Tyranus (Dooku) Dooku was _always_ a stopgap and intended to be replaced by Anakin, but still. Grievous served his purpose. He died when Palpatine wanted him to (by leaking the fact he was on Utapau to 'Clone Intelligence'; the cover story for the fact _he_ obviously knew already)
      I do understand where you're coming from, and it is a funny visual imagining people hugging Grievous and thanking him for fighting the Imperial military in a Rebel Alliance what if scenario. However, I genuinely think that if Grievous was found _anywhere_ in anti-Imperial factions, it might be a more, extreme group, like Saw Gerrera's. Even then, that is really, _really_ not likely, considering the specific context around how and why Saw's sister, Steela Gerrera, was slain in the Clone Wars on Onderon (by essentially, her death caused by a Droid gunship causing her to fall to her death from a clifftop, even as she was nearly saved)
      The attitude of Saw towards droids in general probably wasn't that great after Onderon full-stop, let alone adding the context of his sister's death because of Separatist forces. Plus, in Andor, it's shown that Saw has no time for the idea of the Separatist ideology, because he lists them as one of the kinds of people he considers 'lost'. His own more militant approach to things, allows Disney to magically cast the main rebel cells e.g. at Yavin 4, under Mon Mothma etc, as somehow morally 'above' Saw, though they themselves covertly greenlight assassination and terrorism missions themselves so, not sure about that one. One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, as the saying goes. All the same, Saw Gerrera _was_ more extreme than most rebels (certainly more so than say, the Lothal rebel cell under the likes of Hera Syndulla and Kanan Jarrus/Caleb Dume)
      The idea of Grievous swaggering around in a new cape in Saw Gerrera's band is semi-hilarious, however, he is just too monstrous to truly fit in there with them. His ego wouldn't allow himself to take orders from Saw Gerrera, or anyone else. He'd want to be the big boss at all times. So I don't for one second believe he'd just fall into line with the Rebel Alliance command structure and do what he was told like a good boy. Not a chance lol it's a funny visual though.

  • @henrykkeszenowicz4664
    @henrykkeszenowicz4664 3 місяці тому +47

    I love how Grievous elevated himself to 2003 power levels the moment he switched from villain to hero.
    Would be really cool if the Galactic Commonwealth gave proper respect to the planet of Kalee, where Grievous would retire.

  • @plumdowner1941
    @plumdowner1941 4 місяці тому +26

    Listening to the description of Grievous cutting through stormtroopers reminded me of what he did to the clones on Coruscant.

  • @ProcyonDei
    @ProcyonDei 3 місяці тому +72

    Kreia: "I hate machines!"
    Kreia after witnessing this timeline: "Machines are awesome!"

  • @dreadrath
    @dreadrath 5 місяців тому +32

    Weirdly I think Dooku would be quite proud of Grievous in this timeline since he basically just cleans up the galaxy and see a somewhat less corrupt system rise from the ashes..
    Rebel Grievous is such a cool idea. Actually kind of makes me wonder how it would've gone had Grievous arrived earlier on the Invisible hand, saved and escaped with Dooku then the pair play the long game from there. Eh, well I guess it'd be similar to this, only with an eventually recovered and slowly-returning-to-the-light Dooku and Grievous backing the rebellion. Though things could get a bit bad if Grievous discovers Dooku's role in how he became a cyborg, even if it was Sidious' scheme to make him that way.

  • @darthtroller
    @darthtroller 3 місяці тому +22

    I never thought I'd actively root for Grievous in a story

  • @LordMayorOfDairyBell
    @LordMayorOfDairyBell 5 місяців тому +68

    What if the Kaminoans secretly sold Clones to the Separatists?

  • @Huy-G-Le
    @Huy-G-Le 3 місяці тому +12

    You heard that right: Palpatine gave so much controls to the Corporate Sectors.
    Lady and Gentlemen, it's a Galactic Mussolini! The man who said "F@scism should been call corporatism".

  • @gandalfthepotato9844
    @gandalfthepotato9844 5 місяців тому +121

    Grievous has always been a favourite of mine and i love your content, this video was quite incredible giving grievous's story an alternative ending

    • @PentePatrolStarWars
      @PentePatrolStarWars  5 місяців тому +7

      I’m so glad you enjoyed!

    • @gandalfthepotato9844
      @gandalfthepotato9844 5 місяців тому +1

      @@PentePatrolStarWars I thought of one this morning but I'm not sure if it would be a good story or how it would go exactly. But what if grievous essentially went against his orders, avoiding the fight with Kenobi and going to Mandalore in the attempt to take out maul, but then maybe grievous and maul team up after maul teaches grievous of the reality in the galaxy at large

  • @naxoxz
    @naxoxz 2 місяці тому +44

    This sounds like the best ending Grievous could hope for. It wasn't outright impossible to achieve but defeating an "immature Vader" was the turning point for his campaign.

  • @oogabooga191
    @oogabooga191 2 місяці тому +10

    This is just a grievous glazing video and im all for it

  • @Dock284
    @Dock284 3 місяці тому +17

    I really love Grievous and I love these stories that redeem him.

  • @cob_capone1729
    @cob_capone1729 5 місяців тому +58

    I kind of want to know how the first order would rise in this sort of scenario just because I want to see General grievous completely decimate the first order

    • @maverickdarkrath4780
      @maverickdarkrath4780 2 місяці тому +9

      They dont...he gets on wiff of star killer and just guts everyone working on it and take rens light saber while hes at it....(he didnt see ren as worth killing) takes reys aswell for the lols , then just nukes papls secret wold ..no ground fight , just full on nukes the planet from orbit not giving palp a chance to do shit

    • @22AndAHalf
      @22AndAHalf Місяць тому +9

      ​@@maverickdarkrath4780 "Fuck your freaky force shit! I present you with orbital bombardment 'Lord' Sidious!"

    • @t-wolf8502
      @t-wolf8502 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@22AndAHalf "Parry this, you filfy space wizard!"

  • @franciscorivas9648
    @franciscorivas9648 4 місяці тому +35

    Awesome story, letting grievous be a hero , also a good what if could be a what if thrawn joined the republic before the clone wars

  • @CaptainRex332
    @CaptainRex332 5 місяців тому +115

    What if the inhibitor chips only worked for a day
    What if crosshair was the only clone who’s chip didnt work

    • @jimmygee3219
      @jimmygee3219 2 місяці тому +1

      The inhibitor chips was the weakest plot retcon ever in Star Wars. Full of plot holes

    • @Alpha-zb8sp
      @Alpha-zb8sp 2 місяці тому

      Like? Beside, if they didn’t they couldn’t have made clones that were friends with Jedi

  • @shanedawndusk3290
    @shanedawndusk3290 5 місяців тому +23

    I love that Grievous is just bodying Inquisitors AND Vader.

  • @steelrideproductions371
    @steelrideproductions371 3 місяці тому +11

    Don't take this criticism as hate, I think this is one of the best written alternate timeline fanfictions I've ever heard in a long time! Especially for my boy general grievous, who I feel is the most underrated and underestimated part of the entire prequel trilogy. My only concern was the early quick and almost seamless dispatch of both the emperor and Vader simultaneously. You cannot tell me that the emperor would have gone down that easily... Neither would Vader. Vader would have used the force against grievous if he felt like he was getting overwhelmed. He does it many times and even the movies. Just because his limbs can't fight, doesn't mean that he wasn't stronger in the force, especially with him being empowered with the dark side. I think that keeping both of these key figure heads in the game for a little longer would have been needed. It was unsatisfying the way that you had them killed off. Palpatine was known for his foresight, and likely would have predicted something like this and would not have sent Vader in alone. He likely would have sent fake decoy ships in with the inquisitors rather than risk himself, and his pupil. As soon as they discovered that the empire was in serious danger, I think he would have just kept to his Senate seat to start making a new propaganda machine against these uprisings to try and keep more loyalty and more support for the empire, and keep them reminded of who their saviors really are. Idk. I loved the story and every aspect of it except for that one little area.

  • @AndrewAce.
    @AndrewAce. 4 місяці тому +18

    Wow, that was very chaotic and SUPER detailed! I kind of like Grevious -good ending, I can't lie...

  • @shinygolisopod1407
    @shinygolisopod1407 4 місяці тому +9

    I like the thought of grievous after years of war finally settling down and retiring while knowing that most see him as a hero just like he was before he was turned into a cyborg on kalee is a peaceful thought.

  • @TemplarBlonic
    @TemplarBlonic 4 місяці тому +62

    Fantastic video and “What If?” scenario.
    Now I don’t agree that Vader would have gone down that fast- Greivous would be outmatched at first as he’s never faced the Dark Side, but they would have a rivalry where Greivous would eventually adopt Vader’s lightsaber form and strike him down.
    Even Sidious feared Greivous. He thought that eventually, if Anakin fought Greivous, Anakin would absolutely die… so Greivous would win, but Vader is simply too strong to go down that fast.

    • @bluemaster7530
      @bluemaster7530 3 місяці тому +22

      Vader is later on, but this isn’t Prime Time Vader. He’d put up a fight, but the suit actively handicapping him along with the lack of readjustments or proper experience would hurt Vader in the fight, especially since Grevious is made to kill Jedi and is very fast.

    • @raikaria3090
      @raikaria3090 3 місяці тому +11

      This is new Vader, still learning his cybernetic, and basically reliant on sheer force.
      Also, Grevious played crafty, tricking stormtroopers into attacking and distracting Vader.

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 2 місяці тому +8

      Actually, Grievous HAS fought against Dark Side users. Multiple times too. He fought Maul a few times in the Dathomir arc and did fairly well, he regularly sparred with Dooku in the original Clone Wars and some novels where he's said to be outmatched but not by much. He also beat Ventress in his first appearance in the comics.
      All in all, in universe, he does pretty well against Dark Side users. The only time he seemed completely outmatched was against Windu. There's also the Night Sisters that he genocided.

    • @Alpha-zb8sp
      @Alpha-zb8sp 2 місяці тому +2

      Mace also managed to beat Palatine, so definitely not a big demerit for losing there

    • @LordCrate-du8zm
      @LordCrate-du8zm Місяць тому +2

      He trained rigorously against Dooku. He has faced FAR more deadly Dark Side warriors than Vader.

  • @maxburrill6192
    @maxburrill6192 4 місяці тому +5

    They really need to do more with Grievous. I would watch a show about him.

  • @CaptainRex332
    @CaptainRex332 5 місяців тому +35

    A fine addition to my collection

  • @alexpeterson1138
    @alexpeterson1138 4 місяці тому +11

    This was awesome. grievous was always my favorite character, and he never really had a time to shine. This story was perfect

  • @ChanoCYBER9Avila
    @ChanoCYBER9Avila 5 місяців тому +20

    This is one I always asked and got answered thank you for this. If only grievous had beskar armor

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 5 місяців тому +54

    What if Anakin was trained by Bastillia Shan or Pong Krell. Also what if Anakin was sent to kayshaxx instead of Yoda. Also what if Anakin looked after Bobba Fett after genosis

    • @JohnKidd-up7uh
      @JohnKidd-up7uh 3 місяці тому +7

      It'd be kinda hard for Bastila Shan to train Anakin... considering she'd been dead for hundreds of years before Anakin was even born.
      Although, that idea of Anakin (or more interestingly Padme) taking-in Boba after Geonosis would be really cool!

  • @Fracture_.
    @Fracture_. 5 місяців тому +56

    Ive waited a long time this! this will be very interesting!
    What if Darth Zannah was a Jedi?
    Either she refrains from killing the Jedi who originally comes for her, or another Jedi takes her instead soon after, assuming Bane doesn't find her or a twin of some kind exists. She undergoes training until she becomes a Jedi Knight or perhaps even a Jedi Master.
    Then, she receives one of two visions. The first vision portrays Anakin or Luke as the chosen one. She believes in the prophecy and enters stasis, intending to train them to confront Palpatine during the Clone Wars or the time of the Empire.
    The second vision involves Palpatine himself, maybe as the Emperor. Believing that she is the chosen one due to this, she enters stasis until the Clone Wars, awakened by the Force or some other catalyst. To fight him herself.
    To maintain her characterization as the Zannah we know and love, she excels as a master of Form Three and is proficient in Jedi Alchemy or sorcery, perhaps even both. I think the second vision would make for a better story, as training Anakin/Luke videos are already abundant on your channel.
    (Day 45)

  • @gabrielperez-ze9tk
    @gabrielperez-ze9tk 4 місяці тому +9

    I have a fanfic that goes into a Grievous survives scenario if anyone cares to check it out, its called "they assumed too much"--I always thought some separatist survivors would make for a very interesting story

  • @hanging4176
    @hanging4176 5 місяців тому +18

    Really enjoyed this one, loved focusing on Greivous and how he evolves with time.

  • @locoarticwolf2181
    @locoarticwolf2181 5 місяців тому +23

    A Remake of the list, will try to be less spammy. Love you stories btw!
    -What if Ashoka redeemed Vader on Malachor?
    -What if Sidious and Palpatine were separate people?
    -What if Rey Redeemed Kylo in TLJ?
    -What if Thrawn was in the Original Trilogy?
    -What if Thawn was a Republic General?
    -What if both Skywalker Twins joined the Empire?
    -What if Vader won the Darksaber, becoming Mandalore?
    -What if Anakin/Vader became a Double Agent after RotS, playing the Long Game like the Rebel Thawn fic?
    -What if Vader prevented Alderaan’s destruction, knowing it’ll make Martyrs?
    -What if Sidious abolished the Rule of Two when he made the Empire and recruited more Sith?
    -What if Tenebre/Vitiate/Valkorion returned by themselves in the Movie timeline in the vein of Darth Jar Jar fic?
    -What if Starkiller(Light Side) survived and trained the Skywalker Twins?
    -What if Lord Starkiller(Dark Side) took Vader's place(after killing him in DS Ending) and took his place in the Original Trilogy(ignoring DLC)?
    Faction -What if Legends New Republic/New Jedi fought against the First Order/Sith Eternal?
    -What if the Empire kept the Clones and treated them fairly?
    -What if Vader started an Imperial Rebellion with Thrawn that was separate from the Rebels?
    -What if the Empire was Good and the Rebels were Evil?

  • @-antagonistic-
    @-antagonistic- 4 місяці тому +14

    I like how you used the legends version of grievous instead of the canon version. In my opinion the legends version of grievous is a more fleshed out character than the canon version. Implementing the part of his story where he wouldn't immediately forgive the jedi for what they to to his people on his home world was genius.

  • @just_tired701
    @just_tired701 3 місяці тому +1

    17:14 here's a line that would have fit perfectly here. (in my opinion.)
    "A jedi? do please tell me where..."

  • @theguybehindyou4762
    @theguybehindyou4762 5 місяців тому +10

    What if Palpatine’s Sith secret got out to EVERYONE during the Clone Wars?

  • @AzuraCodeUltimate2004
    @AzuraCodeUltimate2004 5 місяців тому +8

    I wouldn't be opposed to a second part.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 5 місяців тому +13

    "What if" Metra Surik didn't go to find Revan after defeating the Sith Triumvirate?

  • @Bwillis2099
    @Bwillis2099 5 місяців тому +40

    What if Luke Skywalker found a child aged clone of himself and decided to adopt him?
    What if the chiss joined the republic during the clone wars?
    What if Ashoka Tano trained Mara Jade skywalker instead of Sabine Wren?
    What if Luke Skywalker married palpatine’s daughter?

    • @Endrgamr262
      @Endrgamr262 5 місяців тому +2

      Last one WHAT

    • @Bwillis2099
      @Bwillis2099 5 місяців тому

      I meant to write daughter 😅

    • @Endrgamr262
      @Endrgamr262 5 місяців тому

      @@Bwillis2099 ah that would be e weird otherwise

    • @Rysc.
      @Rysc. 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Endrgamr262what did the original say

    • @Endrgamr262
      @Endrgamr262 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Rysc. what if lil skywalker married palpatine

  • @bedsidekhair3667
    @bedsidekhair3667 3 місяці тому +4

    This what if will make a fine addition to my collection

  • @ProWalter2
    @ProWalter2 4 місяці тому +2

    This is possibly one of if not my favorite Star wars fan stories I've ever heard. Super grounded it the state of the galaxy of the time and showing Grievous become a reluctant galactic hero is really interesting to see

  • @Person-tz1tk
    @Person-tz1tk 3 місяці тому +3

    21:33
    "A fine addition to my collection!"

  • @DetectiveDark
    @DetectiveDark 5 місяців тому +32

    could he and obi wan work together to survive order 66?

  • @starscream548
    @starscream548 4 місяці тому +2

    This is like the best Star Wars What If I’ve ever seen somebody please give this man a budget

  • @blutimberry
    @blutimberry 3 місяці тому +3

    I spent quarantine watching the Jedi grievous videos from elseworlds, now i finally have a new timeline to follow.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 5 місяців тому +6

    "What if" The Jedi before the Clone Wars discovered that the Dark Side Nexus under their temple on Coruscant was draining their Strength in the Force?

  • @mitchellb4551
    @mitchellb4551 5 місяців тому +6

    oooo this was really good! I like getting into Greviou's head and seeing his takes

  • @MartialArtsForY
    @MartialArtsForY 4 місяці тому +6

    I’m hoping for maybe a part 2, this is honestly really cool

  • @Lego_Bro2
    @Lego_Bro2 3 місяці тому +2

    I like how this goes over all the logistics of war. And the many different factions involved in this war is just awesome 😎👏👏

  • @Someguyfromtheinternet36
    @Someguyfromtheinternet36 4 місяці тому +7

    This is fantastic! Love the amnesia storyline!
    May i make a suggestion? "What if Captain Phasma joined the Resistance?"

  • @midniteraptor1474
    @midniteraptor1474 4 місяці тому +3

    General Grievous is my hero! Thank you for continuing his story!

  • @adamcorter8707
    @adamcorter8707 5 місяців тому +45

    What if someone from the real world got sucked into the Star wars universe and that person used his meta knowledge to navigate through the clone wars into the original trilogy and beyond, now that would make a good 9 part series

    • @ThyMotherInSpirit
      @ThyMotherInSpirit 4 місяці тому +18

      That's basically called self insert fanfiction

    • @alpharius2omegaboogaloo384
      @alpharius2omegaboogaloo384 4 місяці тому

      @@ThyMotherInSpiritI imagine it *could* work if done properly.

    • @Thurnmourer
      @Thurnmourer 4 місяці тому +3

      He would die and not get very far, if at all. Turns out, being a random bozo with a peculiar degree of knowledge in top-secret things is not endearing.

  • @derskalde4973
    @derskalde4973 4 місяці тому +3

    I really expected thrawn to make an appearance, since originally, he rebuilt the Empire after sidious died.

  • @curtainjerker699
    @curtainjerker699 Місяць тому

    Damn, this was awesome!! Impressive. Most impressive!

  • @user-sl3kr2qu5r
    @user-sl3kr2qu5r 4 місяці тому +2

    this goes hard, nice job.

  • @sethmiller2532
    @sethmiller2532 3 місяці тому +1

    This is overall better than a previous video I'd seen about what might have happened if Grievous had survived the fight with Kenobi, but few things can be as funny as how he won the fight in that one.

  • @samuelk3021
    @samuelk3021 5 місяців тому +6

    Watchi bc you go from below 1K to over 105K has been amazing. I’ve seen. Every single video.

  • @lemon5730
    @lemon5730 3 місяці тому +2

    Been watching these videos. Really amazing stuff

  • @khamulthewack4732
    @khamulthewack4732 4 місяці тому +3

    Immediately, I love your take on this story. Being brought back *a second time* from complete bodily destruction and suffering extreme trauma as a result is an out there, but is just believable enough of a cause to get Grevious on his new crusade against Sideous, and leaves a lot of room for various interpretations on how he would go about it.
    Edit: fucking... phenomenal. Obviously this is a best case scenario for Grevious, I *REALLY* find it hard to believe he could defeat Vader, but given the timing it gives just enough benefit of the doubt that I can see the rest of the story playing out as you described. Holy shit, this was so fun, I loved it, please please please don't ever stop doing what you are doing or how you do it. Cheers 🍻

  • @ratze7723
    @ratze7723 2 місяці тому +1

    Truly the most entertaining „what if“ I’ve ever heard🥹😃

  • @DetectiveDark
    @DetectiveDark 5 місяців тому +6

    A surprise to be sure but a welcome one

  • @SlipperyCastIron
    @SlipperyCastIron 4 місяці тому +6

    What if Anakin found a hot pink kyber crystal? Forcr Rizz off the charts

  • @Lego_Bro2
    @Lego_Bro2 3 місяці тому +2

    This is awesome, you make some great videos

  • @benjaminparker671
    @benjaminparker671 5 місяців тому +15

    What If Shaak Ti went to Mandalore with Ahsoka during the time of Revenge Of The Sith

  • @matsunamida7172
    @matsunamida7172 4 місяці тому +1

    This was such a great story to kisten too, and i did not see the ending coming tbh!
    I would love to see/hear a dtory about him coming out of "retirement" as the yuuzhan vong become an emerging threat!
    Maybe by that time Thrawn has made a return, and we could even see both the General and Grand admiral team up in some weary alliance!

  • @Thatboymeher
    @Thatboymeher Місяць тому +1

    I swear, a “what if” series for Star Wars would absolutely blow up Disney’s bank account

  • @Cyrodil01
    @Cyrodil01 4 місяці тому +3

    It would last for one episode as he ditches the rebellion in the end to become a warlord

  • @michaeljones2162
    @michaeljones2162 3 місяці тому +1

    Grievious and Vader fighting reminds me of an old animation where they fight on a star destroyer for favor of the emperor or something like that.

  • @marikam2998
    @marikam2998 5 місяців тому +12

    1. What If Leia Skywalker Had Visions About Of About The Destruction Of Planet Alderaan?
    2. What If Leia Skywalker Had Visions About Of Ben Solo's Fall To The Dark Side?
    3. What If Luke Skywalker Had Visions About Of Ben Solo's Fall To The Dark Side?
    4. What If Anakin Skywalker Had Visions About Of Jasen's Fall To The Dark Side?
    5. What If Anakin Skywalker Had Visions Of About Anakin Solo's Death?
    5. What If Anakin Skywalker Had Visions Of About Abeloth's Return?
    6. What If Mace Windu Had Visions Of About Abeloth's Return?
    7. What If Yoda Had Visions Of About Abeloth's Return?
    8. What If Obi-Wan Kenobi Had Visions Of About Abeloth's Return?
    9. What If Anakin Skywalker Had Visions About Of Ben Solo's Fall To The Dark Side?
    10. What If Anakin Skywalker Had Visions Of About The Destruction Of Planet Alderaan?
    11. What If Anakin Skywalker Had Visions About Of Siri's Death?
    12. What If Anakin Skywalker Had Visions About Of Depa's Fall To The Dark Side?

  • @KiwiKiwiFruit
    @KiwiKiwiFruit 5 місяців тому +2

    Amazing video mate!! ❤❤

  • @rodrigosantoscienceros
    @rodrigosantoscienceros 5 місяців тому +5

    What if a sizeable portion of the jedi order joined Dooku at the start of the clone wars because they were sympathetic to the CIS cause

  • @Kepora1
    @Kepora1 5 місяців тому +3

    Ayyy, my idea made it into a video!

  • @Biggyzy
    @Biggyzy 3 місяці тому +1

    I can listen to these stories all dayyy

  • @keenirr5332
    @keenirr5332 2 місяці тому +1

    This was awesome. I confess to being curious as to what happened to Thrawn. Overall, I enjoyed this video very much, and was sad that Vader never joined Grievous in the quest for revenge.
    Many kudos to you!

  • @ChosoDFK
    @ChosoDFK 4 місяці тому +1

    Such a fun story, CIS joining the rebellion is a great what if

  • @idcgaming518
    @idcgaming518 5 місяців тому +18

    Such a surprisingly hopeful video. A series would be amazing. I'd love to see what would happen with the Yuzahn Vong here. See everyone another time.

    • @Red_Fascist2003
      @Red_Fascist2003 3 місяці тому +3

      The Yuzahn Vong would be shitting themselves seeing Grievous.

    • @idcgaming518
      @idcgaming518 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@Red_Fascist2003 Kinda, yeah. And a united, supportive and militarily ready galaxy (like the empire but actually united) would be one hell of an enemy for the vong.

  • @TheIroncladResearcher
    @TheIroncladResearcher 4 місяці тому

    Now THIS is gonna be fun.

  • @DarthnightKing
    @DarthnightKing 5 місяців тому +2

    Great work I really like it

  • @mageside
    @mageside 3 місяці тому +1

    Grievous is busy working at Jace Malcom Memorial Rehabilitation Center, last known to help Larry get clean off drugs as his last major contribution before Middle Management took over the Galaxy.

  • @ProfSir1
    @ProfSir1 2 місяці тому

    I love this What If idea. So cool to see Grievous come to blows against classic Star Wars characters.

  • @nahuelferreyra
    @nahuelferreyra 3 місяці тому +1

    Honestly I would love a concept that grievous in trying to make better magna guards he creates his own droid in his image and he makes a copy of his mind but since it was incomplete it basically is grievous wiyhout being totally evil.