This is brilliant! I use Haltech myself (on a Ford 2.0 YB Cosworth) but I imagine the same principles apply. Address the root cause, not the symptom. I found this very enlightening. You’d have to think the aftermarket guys simply don’t have the dedicated R&D budget that the OEM’s do. Have you seen the same with other brand stand-alones? And on this, if you are mainly doing street stuff then why bother with stand-alones at all? I know the EECIV can be tuned with the likes of Moates so you aren’t losing any other functionality? I know it’s not as ‘easy’ to tune as the Holley (and others) for various reasons. Keep up the great work man - just subbed 👍
Thanks Dan. Yes this is one of many reasons we always tel people to tune the stock computer if it’s a street car. Doesn’t even really matter what car or ecu we are talking about. As long as the ecu CAN be tuned, it should be used for street stuff. OEMs do so many things well.
Thanks for the new videos and the ones coming. I completely agree with the Holley argument. People just want the easy way out with the Holley self tuning and have no problem spending the money even with a stock motor. This information is pure GOLD!!!
Really appreciate that. And do everyone a favor. Spread the word. Contact Holley. Let them know if you find a topic that really hits home for you. You guys ARE the user community. We are just arming you with the knowledge you need to make a case for this stuff.
I’ve setup a 1-D table in the Holley with duty cycle vs rpm on a buddy’s Fox with a 5-speed, heads , cam , vortech, etc. and have eliminated the drivability issues that way.
I’ve been done that path plenty as well. It can work so-so if you actually take the time to sweep target idle across the entire rpm range to determine the appropriate iac duty cycle to maintain each rpm. But that technique still gives no consideration to temperature or changes in target idle speed that you may want to command. Most often, people end up with intermittent runaway rpms.
Thanks for another great video! Keep them coming. People buy the Holley thinking it is mainly plug and play with their canned tunes. They soon realize they can't get the IAC to function without diving into the software. Most likely I will convert to the Holley due to the other features (boost control, datalogging, etc...) not because I think it will provide superior drivability.
There is definitely a path forward with Holley efi for these cars. It just takes some special care with certain aspects of the tune. And if you aren’t already familiar with some of its quirks, you may not immediately find ways to overcome these things. I just got off the phone with a very influential team member at holley, and will do my best to work with them over the coming months. My spirits are lifted.
Thank you for explaining. Been running my terminator on my 93 about a year now and had decent response with idle even with a/c running over here on the other side of the state. But occasionally it will allow the car to stall.
SO HAPPY YOUR DOING THIS!!!! I'm in this dilemma right now. I have a street car, looking at an ON3 with a stock Windsor. I've been looking at a terminator x swap for the tunability of it..
@@LeechMotorsports Just a fun, weekend toy. possible road trips. I built the car in 2008 - was a 4cl auto car i converted to 5.0 5 speed. Currently have an A9P and the engine is stock save for a cobra intake. I do have fresh GT40ps and a comp cams xe264hr w/ 1.7rr's waiting to go on before the Turbo. I want to make a safe 400hp with that setup and an on3. The car right now is SUPER reliable. Runs like stock, idles beautiful. I dont want to lose that and with the mild cam and turbo i thought pulling everything out for a holly is what needed to happen.
@@LeechMotorsports The problem is, nobody close to me does any tuning with these computers. I have no problem driving a decent distance. When the time comes for that i'll have to do some searching (not sure where you're shop is located, i just found you guys via brew2l's channel)
This is some very in depth information, I’ve always ran the Motorcraft IAC I don’t have a Holley term x, I’m still running my a9l Id sure like to get a tune from leech one day soon.
I’m starting to figure out I’m going to have to buy all the holly shit to get my car going right ive already got daul sync dis so sense I’ve got terminator x so should I get the gm shit u think ? Been almost a year of this bs car isn’t 100 percent you’ve really helped me 100 percent and I’m totally great full brother form my hear I mean that holly definitely got me on the easier button
The Moates Quarterhorse is still available from coretuning.net via the Quarterhorse package, which includes a usb key license for Binary Editor and EEC Analyzer (the software we use in our videos to tune stock computers). Our friend Danny Kimbler at MF Kustoms is also working on a replacement option (with the documentation/support of Adam Marrer at Core Tuning). No ETA or definitive answer as to whether this will be seen through to completion, but I will say Danny is LEGIT. If anyone can get it done, it's him.
Matt, I'd like to see Holley come out with more than just a Ford "Linear" option for the IAC drop down. I am using the GM piece with the Accufab adapter in my switch to the Holley X. I understand it's not perfect, but I'll take better for now. If Holley does make a software revision to the Ford IAC, it will leave those of us running the GM unit in the cold. Just thought it was worth mentioning as you talk with Holley. My car is at the tuners getting the X installed as a write this, so it's becoming a relevant concern for me. I'm switching over from the stock computer with SCT chip, for reference.
I'm most likely way off. Can a 1d offset table be created for the error %. So IAC offset vs IAC position. Would that keep the valve from never going under 29% and adjusting Idle plate to set idle. This obviously would not change holleys algorithm but maybey it would soften the off throttle between shifts.
That’s a good thought, but it wouldn’t be possible. I’m this situation, both the input and output of the table would be idle air position. And essentially if we tried to add or remove idle air at a certain duty cycle, it would just do a loop, then make another adjustment instantly based on the new commanded position, and it would just flail around. I actually have done something like this to try to counteract certain ignition timing changes when re entering idle. But the reason that even remotely worked was because the input was based on rpm, not the current commanded spark.
@@LeechMotorsports I was going to try it with a IAC offset vs actual IAC with your deviation numbers. Then I was going to not use holleys logic, zeroing out the hold position and have another table with a ramp IAC position vs rpm based on the ford air numbers using numbers in your spread sheet. I was also going to trigger it after a certain ignition timing to avoid cranking IAC numbers.
@@LeechMotorsports I am assuming your saying you cant offset the IAC based off the computers IAC output? It goes into some circular loop. That would be too easy.
I sent a link to this video to Mr. Devin Vanderhoof who has a direct line to Holley EFI. He is a fellow youtuber such as yourself although he primarily tunes and wires the very high horse power drag cars. The key is that has a direct line to the Holley EFI engineers because he, along with many others, does beta testing for the Holley tuning software. He is very knowledgeable with regard to the Holley products and if willing could be a great asset to impart your knowledge through to them. I so wish you the best luck in promoting some Ford knowledge on to Holley since they are very slow in taking up any interest in Ford products.
I follow devin very closely and he definitely is very experienced with Holley efi. I’ve learned a lot about working with higher end race car builds from seeing his techniques. At some point, I need to just reach out to Holley to see if they will entertain some discussions with me.
Never got that far with the conversation. (Me being busy, not them avoiding things). But I have recently figured out absolutely how to tame the idle air valve in Holley efi and can’t wait to drop this knowledge on everyone.
I have a question if you could help me, I just installed a MSD 6a ignition box ,will the ignition box affect my BAMA 4 bank eliminator chip tunes , ever since I installed the ignition box I lost the 3 stages on the dial nob but runs good on the number 4 stock tune .
Do the adjustment numbers you use one the ford iac pwm valve apply if your using a GM stepper valve? That being said i ordered the 550-937 for my car. I plan to use the gm setting for the iac and was wondering if you need to assign it to output 4 or is that only if you use the ford iac.
I hear so much about this and I'm wondering how it will affect my car once I get it back. I seen you briefly talked about this on brew2l's channel, hopefully there will be a fix soon.
I’ve actually not spent any more time trying to talk to Holley. Too much on my plate right now. But we are actively moving away from doing remote tuning services around the Holley EFI platforms for new customers.
We actually plan to reach out to them this week to discuss becoming a dealer. I’d really like to start making some educational content and unbiased review around that system next year. We need a kit here though for r&d.
The pro-m is a great system from what I have seen. There was a car at the 2019 foxtoberfest 408 stroker 5speed car ran great and was on the dyno(460hp) You still get the MAF with this system as well. The price point is too high for most foxbody guys on a "budget" . Hence why Holley is priced like it is.
Send an email to cody@leechmotorsports.com with some information about your build and we will get back with you regarding your project. Can also message us on Facebook or instagram if that’s easier for you.
Not familiar with anyone in that area. But we could certainly handle remote tuning if it is the kind of combo we are comfortable with tuning. Most of what we do is remote tuning.
Great vid! Do you think, from your conversations, Holley will be responsive? I’ve got a newly built 347 with a Sniper that is having the stall issue. Still have my original harness and ECU in the car and was considering switching back to it.
It’s too soon to be certain. But I have high hopes and will have a much stronger sense of their willingness to work with me through these ideas within the next few weeks.
So what is the main issue? RPM's drop too fast on shifts? Has anyone tried using the GM stepper motor? I have yet to install my Terminator and I am hoping I can get good repeatable driveability. I bought this ECM for it's ease of use and adjustability. I was so tired of encrypted factory tables and sinking money into a factory ECM that just recently took a crap.
We have tuned many on the gm stepper setup as well. It definitely produced more airflow at lower duty cycle. Then seems to somewhat even out at the higher duty cycle haven’t done a true A/B on the same car, but have tuned enough cars with each style to loosely observe the differences
@@LeechMotorsports Thanks for the reply. I think the Holley engineers are open to constructive suggestions. I'll be waiting on more videos regarding this issue. You have our attention sir.
Is there any truth in saying that the tuning chips will overheat the processor in the factory fox ECU's. I've seen where refurbished ecu's have the J3 port blocked off and if opened will void the warranty on the refurb. Also on my ECU board that contained a sct chip before the holley went in you could see the discoloration around the processor, is that from heat?
I was moments away from buying a new terminator kit for my ~400hp fox until I saw this video. Is there something better on the market I should consider? (347 stroker, Holley Systemax heads and intake, stock ecu, 5 speed, looking to add a blower)
If you still have the harness and ecu in your car, and they are in good shape, I’d suggest just staying with that and having us (or any other reputable sbf tuner) get the tune done with a Moates quarterhorse and a wideband.
@@LeechMotorsports I’m in IL and wouldn’t know who is reputable and if they’d use a Moates. I’ll check the Foxbody forums. Thanks and look forward to upcoming videos.
@@MrMrferg84 I know of shops south or east of you about 300-400 miles, but nothing closer. If you want to go down the remote tuning path though, that’s something we do every day and would be happy to work on your setup
Great video and great idea. Lets hope Holley takes this to heart. Not sure why you felt it necessary to inform us that you came up with the spread sheet while taking a crap, but I can tell you the effect it had. For the rest of the video I had the image of a socially awkward dude, sitting on a toilet, filling in boxes on a spreadsheet. Not a good look for you.
I personally found it to be hilarious and a good way to disrupt the pattern in most of the video (positively) which is highlighting Holley’s currently flawed idle air logic for street driven stick shift cars and most importantly, highlights how easily this problem could’ve been avoided in the first place.
Not the processor as a whole. But electrolytic capacitors so have a finite life span, and that is the #1 culprit for ecu failure. Fortunately they are cheap to replace if you are handy with a soldering iron.
Joe definitely had a lot of experience with these systems and has been a key tuner providing feedback to the community for quite some time. Same for Devin and a few others.
I am very aware of this video and technique. While this can solve some problems, it still does not solve others, and if not carefully setup can actually create issues that didn’t exist with the stock Holley logic.
This is why I support Leech Motorsports as much as i do. Who else is putting in this kind of work for the community?
This is brilliant! I use Haltech myself (on a Ford 2.0 YB Cosworth) but I imagine the same principles apply. Address the root cause, not the symptom. I found this very enlightening. You’d have to think the aftermarket guys simply don’t have the dedicated R&D budget that the OEM’s do. Have you seen the same with other brand stand-alones? And on this, if you are mainly doing street stuff then why bother with stand-alones at all? I know the EECIV can be tuned with the likes of Moates so you aren’t losing any other functionality? I know it’s not as ‘easy’ to tune as the Holley (and others) for various reasons. Keep up the great work man - just subbed 👍
Thanks Dan. Yes this is one of many reasons we always tel people to tune the stock computer if it’s a street car. Doesn’t even really matter what car or ecu we are talking about. As long as the ecu CAN be tuned, it should be used for street stuff. OEMs do so many things well.
Thanks for the new videos and the ones coming. I completely agree with the Holley argument. People just want the easy way out with the Holley self tuning and have no problem spending the money even with a stock motor. This information is pure GOLD!!!
Really appreciate that. And do everyone a favor. Spread the word. Contact Holley. Let them know if you find a topic that really hits home for you. You guys ARE the user community. We are just arming you with the knowledge you need to make a case for this stuff.
This is a no brainer change. They should do this.
Holley sniper was a pain in the ass for setting idle on a sbf.
If anybody from Holly is watching these videos you should offer this man a salary.
I’ve setup a 1-D table in the Holley with duty cycle vs rpm on a buddy’s Fox with a 5-speed, heads , cam , vortech, etc. and have eliminated the drivability issues that way.
I’ve been done that path plenty as well. It can work so-so if you actually take the time to sweep target idle across the entire rpm range to determine the appropriate iac duty cycle to maintain each rpm. But that technique still gives no consideration to temperature or changes in target idle speed that you may want to command. Most often, people end up with intermittent runaway rpms.
Thanks for another great video! Keep them coming.
People buy the Holley thinking it is mainly plug and play with their canned tunes. They soon realize they can't get the IAC to function without diving into the software. Most likely I will convert to the Holley due to the other features (boost control, datalogging, etc...) not because I think it will provide superior drivability.
There is definitely a path forward with Holley efi for these cars. It just takes some special care with certain aspects of the tune. And if you aren’t already familiar with some of its quirks, you may not immediately find ways to overcome these things. I just got off the phone with a very influential team member at holley, and will do my best to work with them over the coming months. My spirits are lifted.
Good looking out brother for us and Holly. Thanks for your knowledge and time. 👈💯
So at this point what do we do to improve things?
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!! Holley please listen to what Matt has to say!!!!!!!!
Thank you for explaining. Been running my terminator on my 93 about a year now and had decent response with idle even with a/c running over here on the other side of the state. But occasionally it will allow the car to stall.
SO HAPPY YOUR DOING THIS!!!! I'm in this dilemma right now. I have a street car, looking at an ON3 with a stock Windsor. I've been looking at a terminator x swap for the tunability of it..
How are you planning to use the vehicle? How much boost? Stick shift or auto?
@@LeechMotorsports Just a fun, weekend toy. possible road trips. I built the car in 2008 - was a 4cl auto car i converted to 5.0 5 speed. Currently have an A9P and the engine is stock save for a cobra intake. I do have fresh GT40ps and a comp cams xe264hr w/ 1.7rr's waiting to go on before the Turbo. I want to make a safe 400hp with that setup and an on3. The car right now is SUPER reliable. Runs like stock, idles beautiful. I dont want to lose that and with the mild cam and turbo i thought pulling everything out for a holly is what needed to happen.
For that situation, I would 100% stay on the stock computer and have it tuned appropriately.
@@LeechMotorsports The problem is, nobody close to me does any tuning with these computers. I have no problem driving a decent distance. When the time comes for that i'll have to do some searching (not sure where you're shop is located, i just found you guys via brew2l's channel)
@@JustAvignone we do remote tuning. That’s the vast majority of our work. Shoot a message to us on our Facebook page and we can discuss the project.
Makes perfect sense to me Matt, would be great if you can get Holley to offer this!
This is some very in depth information, I’ve always ran the Motorcraft IAC I don’t have a Holley term x, I’m still running my a9l Id sure like to get a tune from leech one day soon.
We will be around. Message us over on Facebook or Instagram any time. You can also email info@leechmotorsports.com if you’re not on those platforms.
Leech Motorsports thank you for the response! I will message you guys soon. Thanks again for all you do with these foxbody’s !! We need it.
I’m starting to figure out I’m going to have to buy all the holly shit to get my car going right ive already got daul sync dis so sense I’ve got terminator x so should I get the gm shit u think ? Been almost a year of this bs car isn’t 100 percent you’ve really helped me 100 percent and I’m totally great full brother form my hear I mean that holly definitely got me on the easier button
With the recent news of Moates no longer making the Quarter Horse what are our tuning options for stock computers now? I have a 90GT 5spd with a A9L.
The Moates Quarterhorse is still available from coretuning.net via the Quarterhorse package, which includes a usb key license for Binary Editor and EEC Analyzer (the software we use in our videos to tune stock computers). Our friend Danny Kimbler at MF Kustoms is also working on a replacement option (with the documentation/support of Adam Marrer at Core Tuning). No ETA or definitive answer as to whether this will be seen through to completion, but I will say Danny is LEGIT. If anyone can get it done, it's him.
Matt, I'd like to see Holley come out with more than just a Ford "Linear" option for the IAC drop down. I am using the GM piece with the Accufab adapter in my switch to the Holley X.
I understand it's not perfect, but I'll take better for now.
If Holley does make a software revision to the Ford IAC, it will leave those of us running the GM unit in the cold.
Just thought it was worth mentioning as you talk with Holley.
My car is at the tuners getting the X installed as a write this, so it's becoming a relevant concern for me.
I'm switching over from the stock computer with SCT chip, for reference.
I'm most likely way off. Can a 1d offset table be created for the error %. So IAC offset vs IAC position. Would that keep the valve from never going under 29% and adjusting Idle plate to set idle. This obviously would not change holleys algorithm but maybey it would soften the off throttle between shifts.
That’s a good thought, but it wouldn’t be possible. I’m this situation, both the input and output of the table would be idle air position. And essentially if we tried to add or remove idle air at a certain duty cycle, it would just do a loop, then make another adjustment instantly based on the new commanded position, and it would just flail around. I actually have done something like this to try to counteract certain ignition timing changes when re entering idle. But the reason that even remotely worked was because the input was based on rpm, not the current commanded spark.
@@LeechMotorsports I was going to try it with a IAC offset vs actual IAC with your deviation numbers. Then I was going to not use holleys logic, zeroing out the hold position and have another table with a ramp IAC position vs rpm based on the ford air numbers using numbers in your spread sheet. I was also going to trigger it after a certain ignition timing to avoid cranking IAC numbers.
@@LeechMotorsports I am assuming your saying you cant offset the IAC based off the computers IAC output? It goes into some circular loop. That would be too easy.
Exactly.
@@LeechMotorsports how about IAC offset vs map some how?
I sent a link to this video to Mr. Devin Vanderhoof who has a direct line to Holley EFI. He is a fellow youtuber such as yourself although he primarily tunes and wires the very high horse power drag cars. The key is that has a direct line to the Holley EFI engineers because he, along with many others, does beta testing for the Holley tuning software. He is very knowledgeable with regard to the Holley products and if willing could be a great asset to impart your knowledge through to them.
I so wish you the best luck in promoting some Ford knowledge on to Holley since they are very slow in taking up any interest in Ford products.
I follow devin very closely and he definitely is very experienced with Holley efi. I’ve learned a lot about working with higher end race car builds from seeing his techniques. At some point, I need to just reach out to Holley to see if they will entertain some discussions with me.
Did HOLLEY ever get ahold of you so you could give them this spreadsheet?
Never got that far with the conversation. (Me being busy, not them avoiding things). But I have recently figured out absolutely how to tame the idle air valve in Holley efi and can’t wait to drop this knowledge on everyone.
I have a question if you could help me, I just installed a MSD 6a ignition box ,will the ignition box affect my BAMA 4 bank eliminator chip tunes , ever since I installed the ignition box I lost the 3 stages on the dial nob but runs good on the number 4 stock tune .
Great info.
Do the adjustment numbers you use one the ford iac pwm valve apply if your using a GM stepper valve? That being said i ordered the 550-937 for my car. I plan to use the gm setting for the iac and was wondering if you need to assign it to output 4 or is that only if you use the ford iac.
I hear so much about this and I'm wondering how it will affect my car once I get it back. I seen you briefly talked about this on brew2l's channel, hopefully there will be a fix soon.
Has Holley talked to you about this as of late? Any updates you think they might make?
I’ve actually not spent any more time trying to talk to Holley. Too much on my plate right now. But we are actively moving away from doing remote tuning services around the Holley EFI platforms for new customers.
Once holley works out this blip. We’ll be golden
Just gotta get the word to spread to the right people!
I've had the holley hp ecu on my 94 mustang gt , its good but not perfect. If the stock ford ecu was easy to tune I would stay with a stock ecu.
Stock computer has a much steeper learning curve for sure. But damn the capabilities are nice for street cars.
I would really like your opinion on the pro-m standalone. I think it just missed on being the new big thing.
I’ve heard nothing but good things about pro-m so I’d be interested too
We actually plan to reach out to them this week to discuss becoming a dealer. I’d really like to start making some educational content and unbiased review around that system next year. We need a kit here though for r&d.
I really enjoy the out of the box drivability of it. Will be nice to hear unbiased reviews and see a true tuning company dive into the software.
The pro-m is a great system from what I have seen. There was a car at the 2019 foxtoberfest 408 stroker 5speed car ran great and was on the dyno(460hp) You still get the MAF with this system as well. The price point is too high for most foxbody guys on a "budget" . Hence why Holley is priced like it is.
How much y’all charge for tunes dude
Send an email to cody@leechmotorsports.com with some information about your build and we will get back with you regarding your project. Can also message us on Facebook or instagram if that’s easier for you.
Do you know of a good tuner in San Antonio for the terminator? If not can you do it remotely
Not familiar with anyone in that area. But we could certainly handle remote tuning if it is the kind of combo we are comfortable with tuning. Most of what we do is remote tuning.
Great vid! Do you think, from your conversations, Holley will be responsive? I’ve got a newly built 347 with a Sniper that is having the stall issue. Still have my original harness and ECU in the car and was considering switching back to it.
It’s too soon to be certain. But I have high hopes and will have a much stronger sense of their willingness to work with me through these ideas within the next few weeks.
Facebook ban? 😂 glad your putting out the videos. This is exactly the main spot I need to straighten out on my MS3
#1 reason I do not drive my car I can not adjust it to the percentages Holley recommends.
So what is the main issue? RPM's drop too fast on shifts? Has anyone tried using the GM stepper motor?
I have yet to install my Terminator and I am hoping I can get good repeatable driveability. I bought this ECM for it's ease of use and adjustability. I was so tired of encrypted factory tables and sinking money into a factory ECM that just recently took a crap.
We have tuned many on the gm stepper setup as well. It definitely produced more airflow at lower duty cycle. Then seems to somewhat even out at the higher duty cycle haven’t done a true A/B on the same car, but have tuned enough cars with each style to loosely observe the differences
@@LeechMotorsports Thanks for the reply. I think the Holley engineers are open to constructive suggestions. I'll be waiting on more videos regarding this issue. You have our attention sir.
I would like to know your opinion on the Pro-M engine management system
Hi Matt. I just wanted to say thank you for the shirt at brew2l’s. Thanks 😍
Thanks for wearing it!
@@LeechMotorsports oh my pleasure buddy!
Is there any truth in saying that the tuning chips will overheat the processor in the factory fox ECU's. I've seen where refurbished ecu's have the J3 port blocked off and if opened will void the warranty on the refurb. Also on my ECU board that contained a sct chip before the holley went in you could see the discoloration around the processor, is that from heat?
I’ve never heard this before and we haven’t any issues with that.
I was moments away from buying a new terminator kit for my ~400hp fox until I saw this video. Is there something better on the market I should consider? (347 stroker, Holley Systemax heads and intake, stock ecu, 5 speed, looking to add a blower)
If you still have the harness and ecu in your car, and they are in good shape, I’d suggest just staying with that and having us (or any other reputable sbf tuner) get the tune done with a Moates quarterhorse and a wideband.
@@LeechMotorsports I’m in IL and wouldn’t know who is reputable and if they’d use a Moates. I’ll check the Foxbody forums. Thanks and look forward to upcoming videos.
@@MrMrferg84 I know of shops south or east of you about 300-400 miles, but nothing closer. If you want to go down the remote tuning path though, that’s something we do every day and would be happy to work on your setup
Great video and great idea. Lets hope Holley takes this to heart. Not sure why you felt it necessary to inform us that you came up with the spread sheet while taking a crap, but I can tell you the effect it had. For the rest of the video I had the image of a socially awkward dude, sitting on a toilet, filling in boxes on a spreadsheet. Not a good look for you.
I thought most people appreciated a little toilet humor every once in awhile.
I personally found it to be hilarious and a good way to disrupt the pattern in most of the video (positively) which is highlighting Holley’s currently flawed idle air logic for street driven stick shift cars and most importantly, highlights how easily this problem could’ve been avoided in the first place.
I always worry about the age of my stock computer it’s 32 years old and wonder what the life cycle is on these things.
As long as you make sure your capacitors arent leaking (get them replaced if so) and no burnt traces then you should be all good to go.
@@LeechMotorsports Doesn't the processer have a life? When it will go bad?
Not the processor as a whole. But electrolytic capacitors so have a finite life span, and that is the #1 culprit for ecu failure. Fortunately they are cheap to replace if you are handy with a soldering iron.
I'm here thanks to BREW2L
Joe Simpson offers decent feedback as well.
Joe definitely had a lot of experience with these systems and has been a key tuner providing feedback to the community for quite some time. Same for Devin and a few others.
@@LeechMotorsports
Your presentation was an exercise in the three R's. 👍
If and until Holley implements the change you're suggesting, here's a solution: It worked great for me: ua-cam.com/video/0_rCN8KExiY/v-deo.html
I am very aware of this video and technique. While this can solve some problems, it still does not solve others, and if not carefully setup can actually create issues that didn’t exist with the stock Holley logic.
@@LeechMotorsports Noted. Just saying it's a band aid until then.
Fo sho