She’s not trying to keep her alone but that doesn’t mean they don’t have perfect boundaries, the Hawk was pretty in the right abut the first episode situation. From an outside perspective Bertie WAS acting overly dependent on Tuca for very basic day to day function (being able to communicate with her boyfriend about being anxious over their date) and I’m wondering if this will come up in the finale given that Bertie will soon have to move out of the apartment and into the house with Speckle, living further away from Tuca
This means so much to me. Society likes to act like every romantic relationship is better and more important than friendship. In fact, friendship is ignored and downplayed by so much media. But this shows that a helathy, loving, GENUINE friendship is better than a weak romantic relationship. The way that Bertie comes in, and makes Tuca feel like herself, and gives her the space to be who she really is, is so powerful.
Agreed! All romance, no friendship isn't healthy. Even if being single feels lonely sometimes, it's not everything. I really hope they don't pull the whole "We were perfect for each other all along" sort of thing and make them a couple. Although, considering how involved Speckle is, I don't think that will be the case.
When this show first came out I was so expecting it to be the neurotic vs chill friend trope where tuca and Bertie would always be at odds (i.e. the odd couple) & I'm so glad they didn't go that direction. Bertie never shames or tries to change Tuca and vice versa, neither of them are really portrayed as being right or wrong in who they are.
This made me really sad. No one should ever be made to feel small. And Tuca is such a bright, exuberant character. The part where her and Bertie dance together and everything is so colourful was super moving.
The colour changes were symbolism. Kara is dancing her own dance, that is keeping Tuca in the dark. Tucas personality is colourful, purple. But every time she tries to dance it, Kara pops her bubble and pull her back in to make Tuca dance the same dance as Kara. That makes Tuca lose her identity until she is so small, she is not part of the relationship in any other way but with physical presence. Bertie comes in and banishes the darkness (red colour) with her own dance that is uplifting instead of pulling people down. She helps Tuca up, and the many changes in colours shows that they not only dance the dance of Bertie, but the dance of Tuca too, as well as everyone in their life. They can dance multiple dances/colours in their friendship. All personalities are welcome. Like how any relationship should be. When Tuca and Bertie merges together, but is swallowed by Kara, it shows how she is devouring their relationship, making it all about her. :)
Yeah, such a simple illustration of a concept really got the tears of happiness going. Look out for your friends and recognize when your friends are looking out for you
on a tumblr analysis of this scene they noted that kara immediately backed off when bertie appeared. kara might be intimidated by the relationship between bertie and tuca but ultimately, she won't fight for tuca. ):
You're so right! Kara could have joined the dance! I also noticed the way Kara literally dropped Tuca onto the floor when Bertie showed up. Also Kara yanked on Tuca before and after their dance but Bertie only pulled Tuca to lift her off the ground. Lots of subtleties in this short scene
This is one of the reasons why animation is such an interesting art form to me. You can tell literally story you want; with live action you can’t have scenes like this that tell a story better than any dialogue can
You also see this when they were playing the carnival game for the stuffed flamingo. You see the real Tuca come out for a moment, and she talks about how goo Bertie is at the game. Kara immediately got angry and said, “Do you think I can’t take her? Because I can,” which caused Tuca to immediately back off.
Also worth noting that the show made a point of showing that this wasn’t at all a problem with Speckle. He knew that Tuca was important to Bertie and didn’t let that deter him.
This scene makes me cry. Tuca admires Kara’s dance and shows her own dance, but instead of appreciating it, Kara decides to change it to her own. It makes Tuca feel small and powerless. But then Bertie comes in and shows what it should be like. They follow and share each others dance and are bigger and smaller when they need to be. It’s so beautiful and I love it so much thank you for posting it 🥺💜
This show doesn't get enough props for not just having same-sex relationship rep,but showing that toxic relationships can develop for same-sex couples, too, and that people can often glorify and ignore the red flags in their early excitement. I think a lot of people are scared to show that reality but it is how real life can be, my first relationship with another girl was the most abusive person I've ever pursued and it took me awhile to realize and come out of it. it's liberating to see and I'm glad they're telling it's not worth pushing for a serious partner, if they won't even take you seriously. really proud of Lisa for this one. Bertie marching in as the music and colors peak, so minimal yet sends me fucking shivers. makes me want to love and embrace my friends.
@Jason Allen normalize what? That abuse can happen from anyone? I am fully aware, but a lot of young people first entering relationships don't. thus I'm glad this show displays abusive relationships of a wide variety. Do you always go around on the internet this presumptuously?
Man, I appreciated this. This show has really pointed things out to me, not just in terms of relationships, but mental health in general. Earlier this year I had a short lived relationship with a woman at least 15 years older than me. I'm out of college and I'm leading my own life, but I was caught off guard by a lot. I learned how vital it is to have a network, and especially one built on platonic friends. I'm a cis guy. I'm not really straight, but I've had women partners and I'm lucky enough that one is still my friend. As a straight-presenting cis man I realized the importance of having women in my life. My guy friends, while empathetic and supportive, never asked how I was during a relatively controlling situation. My ex on the other hand, was the first to ask if I was okay, and honestly I was not. I guess the moral was that friendships matter and that mutually supportive relationships are worth keeping. Great OP by the way.
It was good for Tuca to see Bertie and Speckle again. It was a reminder of what a healthy, happy and loving relationship looks like. What they have is so not what Tuca has with Kara. Tuca has changed herself so much to make it work that it's heart breaking. ALSO I feel like Kara is slightly threatened by the friendship Tuca has with Bertie. That line she said "I can take her" raised a red flag for me.
What raised a red flag and made me so angry is that Kara said something extremely sensitive to Tuca and unforced it as a joke, then when Kara was mad at Tuca for discussing her schedule and saying she can’t spend every moment together, and Tuca said that what she said made her uncomfortable she instantly brushes it off, Tuca shouldn’t have to apologize for her girlfriends actions
@@Dragonking-fd1qv That's narcissism for you. They don't usually think it's their fault when they do something bad.. If they say something that made you feel sad/angry? Well you're just sensitive. They didn't say anything bad, it's all on you. They told you a joke and you didn't laugh? Well, it's only because you don't have a sense of humor, the joke was obviously funny. You're breaking up with them? They didn't treat you badly, you just want to blame them for everything that went wrong and play the victim. (Usually quoted: "Oh I get it, so I'M the bad guy right? It's all MY fault, right? You're just perfect aren't you?") The last situation even happened in the show: Kara: My last girlfriend broke up with me a month ago. She liked to play the victim. Which, funnily enough, was most likely true given Kara's abusive nature. The show had given us the signs as early as that bar birthday party of her attitude.
@@6rebelangel Yup. EVERYTHING has to be about them. Everything. Oh, you're talking about how much fun you had with your friend? *_Do you like her more than me?_* Shouldnt *_I_* be the one you have the most fun with? Oh, you're mad at me? You're making ME feel bad. How could you hurt me like this? Nothing you do is good enough, you don't dress right, act right, talk right, etc. You have to bend to their every whim, while they won't even lift a finger to do anything for you, and they'll get mad at you for even pointing that out. Honestly I'm kinda mad they "redeemed" Kara in later seasons. She doesn't deserve to be forgiven, because she's not sorry.
Wow! This is why I keep coming back to this video! To read new comments and insights into this amazing animated scene. I agree with your interpretation of the dance between Tuca and Kara. When you apply it to their relationship, Tuca made space for Kara to be in her life, but Kara isn't doing the same for Tuca.
i liked that tuca was amazed by kara's dancing, but when she tried kara looked bored and didn't hesitate to hurt tuca to end it when she got the chance. but then tuca's looking away and has no idea kara is the one who stopped her dance.
The song fits so well, I’m so glad I can understand the lyrics, specially the part of “eso que tu haces, no es amor” that thing that you’re doing is not love
I love how they say so much in this scene without actually saying anything at all. This show doesn't underestimate the intelligence of their viewers and it's so refreshing
The moment Kara pulled out a pin in a previous episode and used it to silence Tuca, my heart sank and I knew the direction this would be going. Everything before that could potentially be interpreted as just the growing pains of two people entering a relationship, but that was the moment things turned in my eyes. I love how sensitively the show was able to portray the subtleties of an abusive relationship that doesn't involve physical abuse. I feel like when we think of abusive relationships, too often our minds instantly to yelling and screaming, bruises hid under glasses and long sleeves. But this quiet more commonplace type of abuse is insidious and so difficult to recognize from the inside, and can often lead to physical abuse down the line anyway!
I know, right? And I also like that it was shown Tuca was drawn into it partly because of her own insecurities too, like her lingering fear of being abandoned for her expressive self. It's hard to talk about responsability without ending up in victim blaming. I also like that later Kara is shown as a competent nurse, even if an awful partner. It's like her relationship issues are her own, and it's true that we compartmentalize stuff so that we are competent in some aspects, and frail and cruel in others.
the little details, like Kara pulling Tuca to dance to her own beat and Kara's eyes not being open while dancing with Tuca, but Bertie's are, really gets me. also the vibrant colors and synchronization Tuca and Bertie have in their dance is beautiful.
notice how shes trying to separate tuca from her support and lifelong friends? notice how shes cutting tuca down to make her feel small? notice how tuca is now less? these are signs of a toxic abusive relationship and personality. run.
I fucking love this show it hits me so hard… last season we focused on Bertie’s past trauma of sexual assault and now we are focusing in on Tuca who is currently in an abusive relationship and omg I wanna cry … at the end of the episode when tuca and Bertie are at tuca’s apparment and tuca gets defensive talking about her relationship with Kara it makes me wanna scream because part of tuca knows she’s in an abusive relationship but another part of her wants to believe that Kara loves her and will change it reminds me so much of myself years ago… you keep giving them second chances because you hope they will change but they don’t… you just end up losing yourself and you know either way you are fucked it’s so heartbreaking I never thought I’d be able to relate with tuca until now
Also, can we look at the one scene in S1 where Tuca has that trippy claymation moment where she imagines Bertie pointing out all of her flaws, but then tells her "its okay. It's just who you are." and then starts to point out all the good qualities in Tuca and how they are like a ying/yang relationship? Kara only points out and insults Tuca for her flaws and being herself, doesn't apologize for it, and starts to try and change and control Tuca. The dance scene shows Tuca having a big personality, and Kara forces her to dance like her, making her feel small. With Bertie, she helps Tuca up, makes her feel big again, and starts to dance along to her rhythm while in a way meeting in the middle.
This episode really hit close to home for me. I had a partner similar to Cara in this episode, he’d control me like she would (ie tell me what I could wear, how to do my hair, put me on diets so he could “stay attracted to me”), put me down in small ways behind everyone else’s back, monopolize what we did, etc. I didn’t really love Tuca at first when I first started getting into this show but I really connected to her in a way that feels realistic. Especially since I’m bi too.
My friend is as well, and she’s going through the same shit, I hope I know how this relationship ends so I can at least feel hope that hers will, too. He isn’t right for her, and she’s too good for him.
It’s messed up that my tennis coach used to be like that was before he assaulted me: teasing me about things that made me feel self conscious, like my arms, my hygiene, my personality. Calling me sensitive and saying it was a joke if I ever brought up it hurt me, but getting upset whenever I mirrored that behavior back. They made me feel like I lacked any wisdom to make decisions. They made it seem like they were kind and patient to teach me things everyone else knew and didn’t care to share with me. But in reality, they were just manipulating me to be what they wanted and causing me to lose my identity. This is the best encapsulation of that I have ever seen.
@ Here'sJohnny Archive yeah I was in your friend’s shoes and my best friend was my Bertie trying to knock sense into me, but I’d always make excuses for him, which I really regret. I don’t think she sees him that way though; it’s like how Tuca says that Cara is too good for her. Those were similar feelings I had with my partner; I always thought I was in the wrong and he was too good for me and just putting up with me
My ex of 19 years ago was just like Kara, I literally jumped up out of my seat when Kara was being her "sunny" self, and going "OMG THAT'S JUST LIKE MY EX SCATT!" and my husband hugging me right away.
Is a very beautiful scene. I never would have thought that they could have been able of making something so beautiful representing the situation so properly.
I'm not sure which part makes me have such an emotional response; the fact that someone with such a bright and powerful aura/personality like Tuca being completely torn down/belittled/undervalued to the point where she's basically just broken down opposite version of herself. Or just seeing how powerful and her and Bertie's relationship is and how crucial/nurturing it is to have someone around that is on that equal footing as you. There have been moments where I'll hangout with someone who is controlling and belittling, I'll come back home in tears and my best friend will just be there to hold me and make me feel so seen and just experiencing the two contrasting types of relationships really makes you appreciate those people that do constantly make you feel recognized and understood. Aka, I LOVE THIS SHOW for accurately picturing how this can feeeel.
This was so spiritual! Tuca finally realizes that love is a two person dance, either with the love of a partner or the love of a friend, you need to find the beat both of you can dance too.
This sequence makes me so happy, because it shows Tuca understands what it means to be compatible with someone. There are so many times in movies and TV shows where a character stays in a terrible relationship because they don't know it can be better, but here, Tuca's friendship with Bertie reassures her that she CAN be in an equal relationship with someone. It's really moving!
One of the most beautiful representations of visual story telling. Ive been enthralled with it since the minute it was on air. Severely underrated show and one of the most impactful scenes for me across any piece of media.
This episode completely broke me. There was a pain in chest the entire episode because related to Tuca so much. I keep making excuses to justify how isolated and worned out I felt in my last relationship. I would always think my ex had her reasons to be that way and that we just had to figure things out but my boundaries were always broken and she would treated as an overreaction when I felt bad, I learned to speak up and I was able to stand up for myself but sometimes I feel I'm terrified of my ex and how she was able to change me so much.
Also notice how Kara never actually apologizes for anything when Tuca tells her that she hurt her. It _sounded_ like she did, but the words "I am sorry for what I did" never passed through her li...uh, beak. And they probably never will. Kara is one of those "I'm sorry you feel that way"/"I'm sorry you can't take a joke" types of people.
@@dildonius it's funny because I felt something was off when they spoke but it's only now you are saying it that I see that's what was wrong. That kind of behavior definitely goes with the "ops I didn't meant to" attitude people carry. Like it's okay to keep making the same mistake over and over again because they "didn't notice" but never truly committing to making the change. Btw, I loved the "beak" moment lol
Every now and then Tuca and Bertie hits those incredible "Bojack Horseman" levels but added with it's own idiosyncrasies . This scene has moved me to tears many times.
What I got is Kara doesn’t want tuca to break her routine so she mentally conditions her to be more what she wants but Bertie makes her feel as if she could be herself
@@bluebird1914 and can I be frank I feel Kara got off easy her and tuca just kinda stare and exchange glances. I still feel there should’ve been one last confrontation break up
Tuca should really leave Kara but i can understand why she keeps wanting to make it work. This is her first real adult serious relationship and she doesn't want to feel like she's failed at it. She wants what Speckle and Bertie have so bad that she's willing to push her true self down to try to get it. I think Kara isn't going to call Tuca back as a way to "punish" her, and to try to make her come crawling back. Let's just hope Bertie can actually get through to her.
Everytime I watch this scene I cry. I completely understand what Tuca is going through by having almost an identical experience with a past partner to what she went through with Kara. Through coming out of that experience, I met my best friend who like Bertie with Tuca, brought out the best parts of me and danced alongside me. This show blows my mind honestly.
I tried getting into Bertie and Tuca but the reality breaks just weren't my thing, as much as I respect the stylistic choice. So I've not really watched much, but I get recommended clips. This just appeared on my front page and oh boy, with 0 dialogue it hits very close to a very real, toxic relationship I endured for many years. So thank you, writers and artists of this show. Ya got me.
this is so touching. really does a great job showing how tuca is trying her best around kara but how kara isnt the person thats fits tuca. that the kind of relationship they have only makes tuca feel small and ignored and she feels lost but with bertie she can be herself, with someone who truely understands her. even if it isnt a romantic relationship like tuca wants, its still a healthy relationship where both parties understand each other and love each other.
Watching this made me cry, man... my sister was the Tuca to my Bertie, for real. And I felt like the last half when I was with her. Bright and happy and full of opportunities to grow. I wish she were still here.
A rainbow of colors appears once Tuca & Bertie are dancing together. No colors appear when Tuca dances with Kara- except that it's blue- & dark. Signifying the feelings Tuca is having. When Tuca tries to be herself, some color pops out- PURPLE- but then Kara stifles Tuca's color & dance- after that the color/background goes black. All of the color has been removed. What is interesting is how Bertie comes in with red- with is aligned to the root chakra. It's possible that Bertie's red color signifies a grounding energy, a root energy that helps Tuca ground & find herself again. After Kara leaves, Tuca then dances in a rainbow of changing colors with Bertie What is interesting is how the purple color returns after Tuca and Bertie are done dancing- we see Kara swallow Tuca whole- and then the purple comes back again.
this sequence made me cry so so hard. the beauty of a friend coming in to remind you what real love feels like, so easy to understand. and the way the song rises up. it's really some high art stuff that makes me feel like i'm seeing a window into Hanawelt's soul. makes me wish I could have a friend like tuca and bertie. orz
The Kara episodes were.. really hard. They hit a little too close to home. In fact might as well have slammed into my window and plopped itself into my living room. My last relationship was a lot like this one save for some small details. But the guilt-tripping, the ‘why would it matter anyways’ the ‘put me before anything else’ vibes. I hated the feelings it gave me but much like this dance, it also reminded me of the friends who tugged me to the side and kept me from getting too close to no-return. It’s been about a year now since I left. It still left a nasty mark on me but I’m happier now
@@dildonius i actually have yet to see season two, this is the first clip I’ve seen of it and I understood it :0. Though the comments helped a tiny bit at noticing smaller details
I love how this describes the difference between a healthy relationship and a toxic relationship. It shows how when those are not willing to compromise and want you to just follow their direction and how it leads to an abusive one-sided relationship. And then as she begins to dance with birdie and they both dance together to the same beat and their both in sync with one another, it shows how friendship flows together and not just a One singular person controlling and driving the ship
If both parts of the relationship are not willing to compromise then one that is not willing to compromise will start to control the entire relationship turning it toxic making that person manipulative and controlling
And the part near the end where Cara eats tuca can be viewed as how she is consuming tuca and trying to take away her own identity away from tuca so Cara can manipulate her
No matter how many times I watch this (which has been at least 100 times now, not exaggerating lol) I get chills and feel emotional when Bertie comes in and Tuca dances with her in harmony and equality. Such a simple, yet powerful and beautiful piece😭❤️😍❤️ PS I also have fallen in love with this song and bought it off of ITunes😄❤️
Ayyye me too. I haven't seen this show but will definitely look into it and from what I can tell is that Tuca is not happy dancing to the beat but when Bertie dances toward her it shows just how friends can make you feel free and able to dance to the beat of your own music, loving you for your flaws and personality. And the song is immaculate🔥
Yep. This isn't Kara's first relationship and it's been implied that her partners before Tuca have taken an issue with Kara being unwilling to compromise or 'bend'. Relationships are give and take.
@@tartlynerdy Kara is almost as bad as Haru from Beastars. The only thing that doesn’t make her as bad is the fact that Tuca didn’t end up partaking in self-harm to be with her.
First red flag for me was when Kara wouldn’t even TEXT Tuca back that one time, and Tuca came running to the bar. Which according to the bartender is something she does a lot. And that was before they even dated.
@@bearj7140 she plays mind games with the man she supposedly loves, doesn’t notice when he’s hurting himself for her, is completely unsympathetic to him having a criminal record for the rest of his life. Haru is a sociopath. I really don’t get how nobody else sees this. They just think it’s cute. I’ve experienced it from both family and so called friends. It’s not cute, it’s abuse.
I keep noticing how during Kara’s dance, she’s basically grabbing Tuva’s hand and forcing her to follow her steps, but with Bertie, Tuca was able to dance on her own. Not to mention when Bertie walks in with her dance, not only does she bring color and life in, the music itself suddenly feels full of life compared to when Kara was dancing.
Thank you. I came here looking for the song because I've been waking up with it stuck in my head, this scene really hit me. To see what the lyric mean though... Brought me to tears.
The best comedies sucker-punch you in the gut with feelings when you least expect it. Rick and Morty did it. Simpsons did it. King of The Hill did it. Bojack did it *constantly*. Glad to see T&B fits into that category.
@Jason Allen lol dude who just goes around trying to pick arguements that have no actual substance, in a Tuca and Bertie video comment section of all places. Take the L and talk to someone you love or smth, you look very stupid and lonely
@@RYMAN1321 agreed. The Simpsons was able to do it from Season 1 even though it was rough around the edges. Since Season 12 they've never really been able to do it again except for very very rare instances.
This hits me right when Bertie comes, the screen gets so dark and you don't even notice until she comes in with the light and you can see and feel the weight lifted.
The artist and song is: Lido Pimienta - eso que tu haces (That thing you do). This is a great show. It hits on so many levels. Many of us can relate. The life situations they're going through many of us have been there. It's interesting to see play out but frustrating at the same time because many of us have learned from their mistakes they're experiencing (that whole "been there and done that").
This scene literally almost made me cry. A beautiful example of visual storytelling, it made me really feel for Tuca… but of course Bertie coming in was so fun and powerful! Anyone know the name of the beautiful song? Edit: nevermind someone posted it in later replies haha
I love this show so much. So happy it's renewed for a new season, deserves to run as long as it can. How it touches on psychology and the complications/intricacies of relationships gets me every time. I think everyone has had at least one Kera in their lives no matter how short or long. Someone so unbending and controlling and can make you question oneself and feel not good enough. I knew a few people like this (friends and some family members) and then just like Kera when they can't control you they ghost without notice since it's just another means of control in the situation. Belittle concerns and reprimand honesty about thoughts and feelings. It's the worst. Kera did Tuca so dirty but so glad Tuca and Bertie has such a strong friendship and they avoided that stupid troupe "friend warns about prtner and it causes a rift between friends" (even though this happens in real life a lot). I'm so glad this show prioritizes female comradery since often times media tends to pit women against each other with cattiness/ill will/jealousy/etc. Just nice to get adult animation like this for adults. It can have the crude humor and explicitly it wants but when there's something to tell/express it takes it serious enough for the audience to as well and respect what's said.
What I noticed during Kara and Tuca's dances was how Kara's dance moves had so many more lines just to make the moves, while Tuca's lines are effortlessly done, this could represent how Tuca feels about Kara, thinking that Kara deserves to have perfect movement and needs more effort put into her lines so it looks perfect. This is just a theory, it's most likely just an artistic thing.
Despite not watching the show, I can find its possible meaning as something relatable to me. I’ve been through an online relationship for 20 months before it became toxic. I felt tiny, a toy, and something that was only worth to “please” my partner. I lost much appreciation for life, since I was only focusing on them. Luckily, I left them when I finally realized how much pain we were both dealing with. Their pain came from their own problems and stuff, and mine came from theirs and mine. Although, that doesn’t seem like a worry to me anymore, since I’ve been capable of growing out of it and learnt so much from it.
imagine isolating someone for 3 weeks and tricking them into thinking you were good for them and then saying "I'm happy to leave" the second you don't get your way
I miss my friendship that ended cuz she got too caught up in an abusive relationship... Guess I couldn't dance with her well enough to pull her back from being erased. 😟 This scene made me cry.
Ahi te vi sentada en la arena *(There i saw you)* *(Sitting in the sand)* Ahi te senti Peleando en la marea *(There i felt you)* *(Fighting the tide)* Mirame a la cara cuando me hables No me digas nada si no quieres *(Look at my face when you speak to me)* *(Don't tell me something if don't want to)* Pero no me falles, me duele No exagero cuando te digo *(But don't fail me, it hurts)* *(I don't exaggerate when i tell you)* Pero no me falles me duele No exagero cuando x2 *(But don't fail me it hurts)* *(I don't exaggerate when)* Eso que tu haces x3 *(That thing you do)* No es amor x2 *(Is not love)* I just thought the lyrics where meaningfull so i made this traduccion
My favorite scene in the show. Amazing visual storytelling, every idea and emotion is crystal clear, this is what the medium of animation was meant for.
I know Bertie's entrance made people cry (which is understandable) but I can't help but smile. This is what a good, healthy relationship looks like. Romance can be great, but it can also be awful. A good friendship beats a bad relationship any day.
Wow i don't even watch this show but i love how they are giving Lido Pimienta more recognition with things like this, specially giving that much screen time and at with a cool animation ❤️🇨🇴
I’m so glad Tuca and Bertie have each other in their lives. Not all important relationships in a person’s life have to be romantic or familial. Not all romantic or familial relationships should be kept or have to be important. The people in your life should help you bring about the best version of yourself and so should you. Live a life full of color and light with the people who love you and whom you love too.
I always love the body types they use in Tuca and Berty... I don't think there is anything wrong with typically animated/drawn body types of course, all bodies are beautiful, but I do love the different rep in the show! It's a nice change compared to what I usually see
Yeah I definitely agree. Most bodies you'll see in cartoons, _especially_ adult cartoons, either make their women hourglasses, or they're fat and meant to play either antagonist or comic relief. You very rarely see a body like the ones in T&B with tubbies and tushies and chubs on their legs, a very common body type, not exaggerated to be extra appearing or off-putting, just an average looking 30/40 y/o woman. I appreciate the show for that
Same, I love how Tuca especially is a very realistic depiction of a curvy woman. A lot of media will have a curvy woman who just has an hourglass figure and is super skinny, which is seldom what actually happens. Tuca though? Girl got stomach rolls, she got big thighs and she certaintly doesn't have a flat stomach.
Watching this makes me think of my old friend. I hope one day I'll find him again. The Times we played together were really the happiest parts of my life.
It makes me cry when berttie comes in firey red to rescue her bestie😭 this will always be a masterpiece. Never let anyone treat u badly. U deserve love❤️
My best friend died a few days ago. She made me feel like Bertie did for Tuca. When she met me, I was trapped in a cycle of abuse with multiple people. I had shrunk myself down to a microscopic level, completely forgetting who I was. Then her comes my soon-to-be friend, with her brilliant, shining energy. She reminded me of how I use to dance so freely, before the world taught me to be small. I thought of her when I watched it last week, but watching it tonight broke me into pieces. I will never dance with her again. I will have to maintain my light on my own. I will be eternally grateful that she helped me find it again.
i love this scene since it shows how when Tuca felt small Bertie made her feel big! even with Berties tragic secret she still pushes forward and thats how friendship should truly be, not backstabbing or cheating but helping each other even in the darkest of moments
The show went into telling another way an abusive relationship can form, abuse isn't just strictly physical it's also mental witch is worse as the person will forever remember those feelings unlike a visible scar that may stay but you don't feel pain the moment you see it. Shows are always quick to show relationships where the partners hurts the other by punching, slamming, or harming them in some way but they don't talk about the relationships where the partners uses their words as venom to mentally impact and form their -lover- victim into the way THEY want them with out having to change themselves. They guilt-trtp, they make their -lover- victim think their friends are a bad influence, but most importantly they don't show their "-lover- victim" affection but are quick to bash them when they themselves don't receive any, and when their -lover- victim ask a question that sounds remotely close to doubting they lash out at them. These relationships are the worse as they can change the person whose being inflicted by it to the point of no return. i also did a comment on what i the the dance was saying in the reply.
What I analyzed from the scene It starts off with Tuca alone, she meet Kara and they get to know one each other (the dance represents their personality) Kara is calm, well organized, she likes to keep in her bubble. Tuca is wild, crazy, and isn't afraid to go where others won't Kara doesn't like the way she acts and scolds her. (hint she pops Tuca's butt with her beak) Tuca is sad that she doesn't felling like she's locked up in a dark room, trapped (Background becomes black setting the mood) Tuca looks at Kara for guidance since she's now lost. Kara tells her to follow HER lead and Tuca does just that. After a while Tuca starts to feel like she isn't herself anymore she feels smaller thinking Kara is much better than her. Kara can now handle her without issues since she knows Tuca looks up to her. But she remembers Bertie. Bertie reminds her of what a free girl with a healthy relationship looks like. She brings back light to Tuca. Bertie is weird, organized, and tries her best to ease on into others. Kara doesn't like this new found energy backing off. Kara let's go of Tuca. Showing just how little she cares as she makes a run for it. Bertie picks Tuca up to show her how she rolls. Tuca joins in Feeling like herself again She doesn't feel little anymore She adds in her own dance moves and Bertie goes right along with her.
Bertie isn't trying to keep Tuca alone.
She is trying to keep Tuca Tuca.
She’s not trying to keep her alone but that doesn’t mean they don’t have perfect boundaries, the Hawk was pretty in the right abut the first episode situation. From an outside perspective Bertie WAS acting overly dependent on Tuca for very basic day to day function (being able to communicate with her boyfriend about being anxious over their date) and I’m wondering if this will come up in the finale given that Bertie will soon have to move out of the apartment and into the house with Speckle, living further away from Tuca
@@folgerkelley2715 All of this. I really hope it is brought up.
Tuca did say that the cup is a excuse to why she can’t date anyone cause she feels like she’s holding herself back
NO ! Bertie can be very very dependent on Tuca, their friendship is not perfect. Which is important to note
@@bassssaasuuuup I said she wasn't TRYING.
This means so much to me. Society likes to act like every romantic relationship is better and more important than friendship. In fact, friendship is ignored and downplayed by so much media. But this shows that a helathy, loving, GENUINE friendship is better than a weak romantic relationship. The way that Bertie comes in, and makes Tuca feel like herself, and gives her the space to be who she really is, is so powerful.
Very True
I like this,it seems like every relationship is always more important,and friendships always come 2nd to their partner
Agreed! All romance, no friendship isn't healthy. Even if being single feels lonely sometimes, it's not everything.
I really hope they don't pull the whole "We were perfect for each other all along" sort of thing and make them a couple. Although, considering how involved Speckle is, I don't think that will be the case.
And how relationships are important but so are friendships including if you’re in a toxic one
When this show first came out I was so expecting it to be the neurotic vs chill friend trope where tuca and Bertie would always be at odds (i.e. the odd couple) & I'm so glad they didn't go that direction. Bertie never shames or tries to change Tuca and vice versa, neither of them are really portrayed as being right or wrong in who they are.
This made me really sad. No one should ever be made to feel small. And Tuca is such a bright, exuberant character. The part where her and Bertie dance together and everything is so colourful was super moving.
They were celebrating eachother
The colour changes were symbolism. Kara is dancing her own dance, that is keeping Tuca in the dark. Tucas personality is colourful, purple. But every time she tries to dance it, Kara pops her bubble and pull her back in to make Tuca dance the same dance as Kara. That makes Tuca lose her identity until she is so small, she is not part of the relationship in any other way but with physical presence. Bertie comes in and banishes the darkness (red colour) with her own dance that is uplifting instead of pulling people down. She helps Tuca up, and the many changes in colours shows that they not only dance the dance of Bertie, but the dance of Tuca too, as well as everyone in their life. They can dance multiple dances/colours in their friendship. All personalities are welcome. Like how any relationship should be. When Tuca and Bertie merges together, but is swallowed by Kara, it shows how she is devouring their relationship, making it all about her. :)
@@lunatic4613 This was said so beautifully 🥺
@@lunatic4613 😢😭😭😭😭😭 That was so beautifully explained!
Yeah, such a simple illustration of a concept really got the tears of happiness going. Look out for your friends and recognize when your friends are looking out for you
on a tumblr analysis of this scene they noted that kara immediately backed off when bertie appeared. kara might be intimidated by the relationship between bertie and tuca but ultimately, she won't fight for tuca. ):
oh fuck 😔
You're so right! Kara could have joined the dance! I also noticed the way Kara literally dropped Tuca onto the floor when Bertie showed up. Also Kara yanked on Tuca before and after their dance but Bertie only pulled Tuca to lift her off the ground. Lots of subtleties in this short scene
This is one of the reasons why animation is such an interesting art form to me. You can tell literally story you want; with live action you can’t have scenes like this that tell a story better than any dialogue can
You also see this when they were playing the carnival game for the stuffed flamingo. You see the real Tuca come out for a moment, and she talks about how goo Bertie is at the game. Kara immediately got angry and said, “Do you think I can’t take her? Because I can,” which caused Tuca to immediately back off.
Also worth noting that the show made a point of showing that this wasn’t at all a problem with Speckle. He knew that Tuca was important to Bertie and didn’t let that deter him.
This makes the silly dance transitions in the show suddenly feel more meaningful.
Oh shit I hadn't even thought to connect them!
Real birds do mating dances. The transitions aren't there just because dancing is fun, but because to dance together signifies love and trust.
This scene makes me cry. Tuca admires Kara’s dance and shows her own dance, but instead of appreciating it, Kara decides to change it to her own. It makes Tuca feel small and powerless. But then Bertie comes in and shows what it should be like. They follow and share each others dance and are bigger and smaller when they need to be. It’s so beautiful and I love it so much thank you for posting it 🥺💜
Sorry to ruin a beautiful comment, but this just makes me think of vore.
Tuca's dance was very vulgar and unladylike. I hated it
@@GOldenPROdigy115 I don't think you've watched this series before, brudder
@@gothicpixelchick2 I've watched it since season first aired. I love Tuca but she needs to be more feminine
@@breh9243 women shouldn't behave like that
This show doesn't get enough props for not just having same-sex relationship rep,but showing that toxic relationships can develop for same-sex couples, too, and that people can often glorify and ignore the red flags in their early excitement.
I think a lot of people are scared to show that reality but it is how real life can be, my first relationship with another girl was the most abusive person I've ever pursued and it took me awhile to realize and come out of it. it's liberating to see and I'm glad they're telling it's not worth pushing for a serious partner, if they won't even take you seriously.
really proud of Lisa for this one. Bertie marching in as the music and colors peak, so minimal yet sends me fucking shivers. makes me want to love and embrace my friends.
@Jason Allen That's literally what they're praising the show for doing.
@Jason Allen ok?
@Jason Allen k
@Jason Allen normalize what? That abuse can happen from anyone? I am fully aware, but a lot of young people first entering relationships don't. thus I'm glad this show displays abusive relationships of a wide variety. Do you always go around on the internet this presumptuously?
Man, I appreciated this. This show has really pointed things out to me, not just in terms of relationships, but mental health in general. Earlier this year I had a short lived relationship with a woman at least 15 years older than me. I'm out of college and I'm leading my own life, but I was caught off guard by a lot.
I learned how vital it is to have a network, and especially one built on platonic friends. I'm a cis guy. I'm not really straight, but I've had women partners and I'm lucky enough that one is still my friend. As a straight-presenting cis man I realized the importance of having women in my life. My guy friends, while empathetic and supportive, never asked how I was during a relatively controlling situation. My ex on the other hand, was the first to ask if I was okay, and honestly I was not.
I guess the moral was that friendships matter and that mutually supportive relationships are worth keeping. Great OP by the way.
When Bertie shows up I get such a rush of serotonin, holy shit
We all need a best friend like that. Tucas and berties friendship is gold
me too goddamn
Same. I get legit chills when she comes in, just pouring out light and that vibrant ketchup red that Kara hates, and picks Tuca up.
Frrrr
CHILLS AND TEARS OF HAPPINESS
It was good for Tuca to see Bertie and Speckle again. It was a reminder of what a healthy, happy and loving relationship looks like. What they have is so not what Tuca has with Kara. Tuca has changed herself so much to make it work that it's heart breaking. ALSO I feel like Kara is slightly threatened by the friendship Tuca has with Bertie. That line she said "I can take her" raised a red flag for me.
What raised a red flag and made me so angry is that Kara said something extremely sensitive to Tuca and unforced it as a joke, then when Kara was mad at Tuca for discussing her schedule and saying she can’t spend every moment together, and Tuca said that what she said made her uncomfortable she instantly brushes it off, Tuca shouldn’t have to apologize for her girlfriends actions
@@Dragonking-fd1qv That's narcissism for you. They don't usually think it's their fault when they do something bad.. If they say something that made you feel sad/angry? Well you're just sensitive. They didn't say anything bad, it's all on you. They told you a joke and you didn't laugh? Well, it's only because you don't have a sense of humor, the joke was obviously funny. You're breaking up with them? They didn't treat you badly, you just want to blame them for everything that went wrong and play the victim. (Usually quoted: "Oh I get it, so I'M the bad guy right? It's all MY fault, right? You're just perfect aren't you?")
The last situation even happened in the show:
Kara: My last girlfriend broke up with me a month ago. She liked to play the victim.
Which, funnily enough, was most likely true given Kara's abusive nature. The show had given us the signs as early as that bar birthday party of her attitude.
@@6rebelangel Yup. EVERYTHING has to be about them. Everything. Oh, you're talking about how much fun you had with your friend? *_Do you like her more than me?_* Shouldnt *_I_* be the one you have the most fun with?
Oh, you're mad at me? You're making ME feel bad. How could you hurt me like this?
Nothing you do is good enough, you don't dress right, act right, talk right, etc. You have to bend to their every whim, while they won't even lift a finger to do anything for you, and they'll get mad at you for even pointing that out.
Honestly I'm kinda mad they "redeemed" Kara in later seasons. She doesn't deserve to be forgiven, because she's not sorry.
I like how even from the beginning Tuca had to move out of Kara’s way, but when Tuca started dancing Kara wouldn’t move
Wow! This is why I keep coming back to this video! To read new comments and insights into this amazing animated scene. I agree with your interpretation of the dance between Tuca and Kara. When you apply it to their relationship, Tuca made space for Kara to be in her life, but Kara isn't doing the same for Tuca.
@@StarViewer68 damn. also awesome analysis!
i liked that tuca was amazed by kara's dancing, but when she tried kara looked bored and didn't hesitate to hurt tuca to end it when she got the chance. but then tuca's looking away and has no idea kara is the one who stopped her dance.
Not only that but from how she was acting it was as if she was waiting for her to stop instead of waiting her turn. Tuca was watching, enjoying it.
The song fits so well, I’m so glad I can understand the lyrics, specially the part of “eso que tu haces, no es amor” that thing that you’re doing is not love
@Violeta K F verdad? Es Hermoso
Is this song in Spotify? What is it called
What's the song name?
@@liladelgado9510 eso que tú haces
@@kilisjvvkki9237 Thank u! :D
I love how they say so much in this scene without actually saying anything at all. This show doesn't underestimate the intelligence of their viewers and it's so refreshing
The moment Kara pulled out a pin in a previous episode and used it to silence Tuca, my heart sank and I knew the direction this would be going. Everything before that could potentially be interpreted as just the growing pains of two people entering a relationship, but that was the moment things turned in my eyes.
I love how sensitively the show was able to portray the subtleties of an abusive relationship that doesn't involve physical abuse. I feel like when we think of abusive relationships, too often our minds instantly to yelling and screaming, bruises hid under glasses and long sleeves. But this quiet more commonplace type of abuse is insidious and so difficult to recognize from the inside, and can often lead to physical abuse down the line anyway!
Let’s put a pin in that
I know, right? And I also like that it was shown Tuca was drawn into it partly because of her own insecurities too, like her lingering fear of being abandoned for her expressive self. It's hard to talk about responsability without ending up in victim blaming. I also like that later Kara is shown as a competent nurse, even if an awful partner. It's like her relationship issues are her own, and it's true that we compartmentalize stuff so that we are competent in some aspects, and frail and cruel in others.
the little details, like Kara pulling Tuca to dance to her own beat and Kara's eyes not being open while dancing with Tuca, but Bertie's are, really gets me.
also the vibrant colors and synchronization Tuca and Bertie have in their dance is beautiful.
I like the subtle bit where Kara bursts Tuca's bubble by literally looking down her nose at her, which is what she's done metaphorically forever
I love how Birdie still has her heels in the outline
notice how shes trying to separate tuca from her support and lifelong friends?
notice how shes cutting tuca down to make her feel small?
notice how tuca is now less?
these are signs of a toxic abusive relationship and personality.
run.
Not to mention how that when Tuca dances as herself there’s color but when she dances like Kara it goes black
Where can I watch this show
@@squaredonuts9706 temp. 1 on Netflix, temp 2 and 3 on HBO 😄
DINGDINGDING! It was a lil triggering ngl
I fucking love this show it hits me so hard… last season we focused on Bertie’s past trauma of sexual assault and now we are focusing in on Tuca who is currently in an abusive relationship and omg I wanna cry … at the end of the episode when tuca and Bertie are at tuca’s apparment and tuca gets defensive talking about her relationship with Kara it makes me wanna scream because part of tuca knows she’s in an abusive relationship but another part of her wants to believe that Kara loves her and will change it reminds me so much of myself years ago… you keep giving them second chances because you hope they will change but they don’t… you just end up losing yourself and you know either way you are fucked it’s so heartbreaking I never thought I’d be able to relate with tuca until now
Also, can we look at the one scene in S1 where Tuca has that trippy claymation moment where she imagines Bertie pointing out all of her flaws, but then tells her "its okay. It's just who you are." and then starts to point out all the good qualities in Tuca and how they are like a ying/yang relationship?
Kara only points out and insults Tuca for her flaws and being herself, doesn't apologize for it, and starts to try and change and control Tuca. The dance scene shows Tuca having a big personality, and Kara forces her to dance like her, making her feel small. With Bertie, she helps Tuca up, makes her feel big again, and starts to dance along to her rhythm while in a way meeting in the middle.
This episode really hit close to home for me. I had a partner similar to Cara in this episode, he’d control me like she would (ie tell me what I could wear, how to do my hair, put me on diets so he could “stay attracted to me”), put me down in small ways behind everyone else’s back, monopolize what we did, etc. I didn’t really love Tuca at first when I first started getting into this show but I really connected to her in a way that feels realistic. Especially since I’m bi too.
My friend is as well, and she’s going through the same shit, I hope I know how this relationship ends so I can at least feel hope that hers will, too. He isn’t right for her, and she’s too good for him.
It’s messed up that my tennis coach used to be like that was before he assaulted me: teasing me about things that made me feel self conscious, like my arms, my hygiene, my personality. Calling me sensitive and saying it was a joke if I ever brought up it hurt me, but getting upset whenever I mirrored that behavior back. They made me feel like I lacked any wisdom to make decisions. They made it seem like they were kind and patient to teach me things everyone else knew and didn’t care to share with me. But in reality, they were just manipulating me to be what they wanted and causing me to lose my identity. This is the best encapsulation of that I have ever seen.
@ Michelle Emberton I’m so sorry about that :( you don’t deserve that, I hope your tennis coach gets the justice he needs served
@ Here'sJohnny Archive yeah I was in your friend’s shoes and my best friend was my Bertie trying to knock sense into me, but I’d always make excuses for him, which I really regret. I don’t think she sees him that way though; it’s like how Tuca says that Cara is too good for her. Those were similar feelings I had with my partner; I always thought I was in the wrong and he was too good for me and just putting up with me
My ex of 19 years ago was just like Kara, I literally jumped up out of my seat when Kara was being her "sunny" self, and going "OMG THAT'S JUST LIKE MY EX SCATT!" and my husband hugging me right away.
Is a very beautiful scene. I never would have thought that they could have been able of making something so beautiful representing the situation so properly.
Honestly can't even think of this scene without crying
I love that Tuca and birtie shows that wlw relationships aren’t always perfect or soft and pretty, but can be complicated and sometimes toxic.
I'm not sure which part makes me have such an emotional response; the fact that someone with such a bright and powerful aura/personality like Tuca being completely torn down/belittled/undervalued to the point where she's basically just broken down opposite version of herself. Or just seeing how powerful and her and Bertie's relationship is and how crucial/nurturing it is to have someone around that is on that equal footing as you. There have been moments where I'll hangout with someone who is controlling and belittling, I'll come back home in tears and my best friend will just be there to hold me and make me feel so seen and just experiencing the two contrasting types of relationships really makes you appreciate those people that do constantly make you feel recognized and understood. Aka, I LOVE THIS SHOW for accurately picturing how this can feeeel.
This was so spiritual! Tuca finally realizes that love is a two person dance, either with the love of a partner or the love of a friend, you need to find the beat both of you can dance too.
the fact that they used the fun dances from the intro and bumpers and actually turned them into something meaningful is amazing
This sequence makes me so happy, because it shows Tuca understands what it means to be compatible with someone. There are so many times in movies and TV shows where a character stays in a terrible relationship because they don't know it can be better, but here, Tuca's friendship with Bertie reassures her that she CAN be in an equal relationship with someone. It's really moving!
One of the most beautiful representations of visual story telling. Ive been enthralled with it since the minute it was on air. Severely underrated show and one of the most impactful scenes for me across any piece of media.
This episode completely broke me. There was a pain in chest the entire episode because related to Tuca so much. I keep making excuses to justify how isolated and worned out I felt in my last relationship. I would always think my ex had her reasons to be that way and that we just had to figure things out but my boundaries were always broken and she would treated as an overreaction when I felt bad, I learned to speak up and I was able to stand up for myself but sometimes I feel I'm terrified of my ex and how she was able to change me so much.
Also notice how Kara never actually apologizes for anything when Tuca tells her that she hurt her. It _sounded_ like she did, but the words "I am sorry for what I did" never passed through her li...uh, beak. And they probably never will. Kara is one of those "I'm sorry you feel that way"/"I'm sorry you can't take a joke" types of people.
@@dildonius it's funny because I felt something was off when they spoke but it's only now you are saying it that I see that's what was wrong. That kind of behavior definitely goes with the "ops I didn't meant to" attitude people carry. Like it's okay to keep making the same mistake over and over again because they "didn't notice" but never truly committing to making the change.
Btw, I loved the "beak" moment lol
Every now and then Tuca and Bertie hits those incredible "Bojack Horseman" levels but added with it's own idiosyncrasies . This scene has moved me to tears many times.
The art style does remind me of Bojack Horseman too, and the concept of animals. But there’s no humans to mix in as well
@@SpiceHoundGthere are humans. Just very few because it's birdtown
What I got is Kara doesn’t want tuca to break her routine so she mentally conditions her to be more what she wants but Bertie makes her feel as if she could be herself
Pretty much. Kara wants Tuca, but the idealized version of Tuca that's she's trying to force Tuca to be, while Bertie just wants Tuca to be herself.
@@bluebird1914 and can I be frank I feel Kara got off easy her and tuca just kinda stare and exchange glances. I still feel there should’ve been one last confrontation break up
@@Gooberwares There should've, but sadly it's not that often irl when you actually get a big confrontation with someone like Kara.
God this is such a beautiful scene, I love how the music swells when Bertie enters the dance.
Tuca should really leave Kara but i can understand why she keeps wanting to make it work. This is her first real adult serious relationship and she doesn't want to feel like she's failed at it. She wants what Speckle and Bertie have so bad that she's willing to push her true self down to try to get it. I think Kara isn't going to call Tuca back as a way to "punish" her, and to try to make her come crawling back. Let's just hope Bertie can actually get through to her.
100%
Don't worry, Kara gonna ghost her.
They discussed it with eachother, I want them to make it work and I want Kara to get character development
@@Dragonking-fd1qv Nah. They didn't discuss shit. Kara is manipulating her. That's how abusive relationships work. There's the carrot and the stick.
@@dildonius she did right after the dance: ua-cam.com/video/jXr1xzTdDZs/v-deo.html and skip to 1:57
Everytime I watch this scene I cry. I completely understand what Tuca is going through by having almost an identical experience with a past partner to what she went through with Kara. Through coming out of that experience, I met my best friend who like Bertie with Tuca, brought out the best parts of me and danced alongside me. This show blows my mind honestly.
I tried getting into Bertie and Tuca but the reality breaks just weren't my thing, as much as I respect the stylistic choice. So I've not really watched much, but I get recommended clips.
This just appeared on my front page and oh boy, with 0 dialogue it hits very close to a very real, toxic relationship I endured for many years. So thank you, writers and artists of this show. Ya got me.
this is so touching. really does a great job showing how tuca is trying her best around kara but how kara isnt the person thats fits tuca. that the kind of relationship they have only makes tuca feel small and ignored and she feels lost but with bertie she can be herself, with someone who truely understands her. even if it isnt a romantic relationship like tuca wants, its still a healthy relationship where both parties understand each other and love each other.
Watching this made me cry, man... my sister was the Tuca to my Bertie, for real. And I felt like the last half when I was with her. Bright and happy and full of opportunities to grow.
I wish she were still here.
A rainbow of colors appears once Tuca & Bertie are dancing together. No colors appear when Tuca dances with Kara- except that it's blue- & dark. Signifying the feelings Tuca is having.
When Tuca tries to be herself, some color pops out- PURPLE- but then Kara stifles Tuca's color & dance- after that the color/background goes black. All of the color has been removed.
What is interesting is how Bertie comes in with red- with is aligned to the root chakra. It's possible that Bertie's red color signifies a grounding energy, a root energy that helps Tuca ground & find herself again.
After Kara leaves, Tuca then dances in a rainbow of changing colors with Bertie
What is interesting is how the purple color returns after Tuca and Bertie are done dancing- we see Kara swallow Tuca whole- and then the purple comes back again.
this sequence made me cry so so hard. the beauty of a friend coming in to remind you what real love feels like, so easy to understand. and the way the song rises up. it's really some high art stuff that makes me feel like i'm seeing a window into Hanawelt's soul. makes me wish I could have a friend like tuca and bertie. orz
When she said "eso que tú haces no es amor♪"... bruh I felt that
That’s usually a joke but bruh it actually does
The Kara episodes were.. really hard. They hit a little too close to home. In fact might as well have slammed into my window and plopped itself into my living room. My last relationship was a lot like this one save for some small details. But the guilt-tripping, the ‘why would it matter anyways’ the ‘put me before anything else’ vibes. I hated the feelings it gave me but much like this dance, it also reminded me of the friends who tugged me to the side and kept me from getting too close to no-return. It’s been about a year now since I left. It still left a nasty mark on me but I’m happier now
this may be the first time i was able to understand an interpretive dance
Because you watched a more straightforward narrative beforehand that gave it context.
@@dildonius i actually have yet to see season two, this is the first clip I’ve seen of it and I understood it :0. Though the comments helped a tiny bit at noticing smaller details
I love how this describes the difference between a healthy relationship and a toxic relationship. It shows how when those are not willing to compromise and want you to just follow their direction and how it leads to an abusive one-sided relationship. And then as she begins to dance with birdie and they both dance together to the same beat and their both in sync with one another, it shows how friendship flows together and not just a One singular person controlling and driving the ship
If both parts of the relationship are not willing to compromise then one that is not willing to compromise will start to control the entire relationship turning it toxic making that person manipulative and controlling
And the part near the end where Cara eats tuca can be viewed as how she is consuming tuca and trying to take away her own identity away from tuca so Cara can manipulate her
No matter how many times I watch this (which has been at least 100 times now, not exaggerating lol) I get chills and feel emotional when Bertie comes in and Tuca dances with her in harmony and equality. Such a simple, yet powerful and beautiful piece😭❤️😍❤️
PS I also have fallen in love with this song and bought it off of ITunes😄❤️
Ayyye me too. I haven't seen this show but will definitely look into it and from what I can tell is that Tuca is not happy dancing to the beat but when Bertie dances toward her it shows just how friends can make you feel free and able to dance to the beat of your own music, loving you for your flaws and personality. And the song is immaculate🔥
This hurts. And its true. No es amor. Thats not love and tuca deserves love
I’ve been here. Kara isn’t going to call back either. They never do.
Yep. This isn't Kara's first relationship and it's been implied that her partners before Tuca have taken an issue with Kara being unwilling to compromise or 'bend'. Relationships are give and take.
@@tartlynerdy Kara is almost as bad as Haru from Beastars. The only thing that doesn’t make her as bad is the fact that Tuca didn’t end up partaking in self-harm to be with her.
First red flag for me was when Kara wouldn’t even TEXT Tuca back that one time, and Tuca came running to the bar. Which according to the bartender is something she does a lot. And that was before they even dated.
@@Vulpes_Ailurus Wait how is haru from beastars bad?
@@bearj7140 she plays mind games with the man she supposedly loves, doesn’t notice when he’s hurting himself for her, is completely unsympathetic to him having a criminal record for the rest of his life. Haru is a sociopath. I really don’t get how nobody else sees this. They just think it’s cute. I’ve experienced it from both family and so called friends. It’s not cute, it’s abuse.
I swear, I get goosebumps every time Bertie shows up in this scene! Absolutely beautiful!
I keep noticing how during Kara’s dance, she’s basically grabbing Tuva’s hand and forcing her to follow her steps, but with Bertie, Tuca was able to dance on her own. Not to mention when Bertie walks in with her dance, not only does she bring color and life in, the music itself suddenly feels full of life compared to when Kara was dancing.
The lyrics to Lido Pimienta - "Eso Que Tu Haces" Make it hit EVEN harder ( Also, Thank you for uploading this scene!
Aww
Well done
Holy shit
Thank you. I came here looking for the song because I've been waking up with it stuck in my head, this scene really hit me. To see what the lyric mean though... Brought me to tears.
Thank you! I couldn't find the name of this song!!
this makes me sob SHE LOVES BERTIE SO FUCKING MUCH WITHOUT IT BEING ROMANTIC THEY JUST GENUINELY CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER SO SO MUCH IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL
I love the metaphorical stuff in this show and how they portray it in different styles
"That thing that you do ain't love"
The best comedies sucker-punch you in the gut with feelings when you least expect it. Rick and Morty did it. Simpsons did it. King of The Hill did it. Bojack did it *constantly*. Glad to see T&B fits into that category.
Simpsons isn’t very good at it anymore though.
Their best days are long behind them.
Yeah, I’m glad AS gave it another chance, it really deserves it
@Jason Allen lol dude who just goes around trying to pick arguements that have no actual substance, in a Tuca and Bertie video comment section of all places. Take the L and talk to someone you love or smth, you look very stupid and lonely
@@RYMAN1321 agreed. The Simpsons was able to do it from Season 1 even though it was rough around the edges. Since Season 12 they've never really been able to do it again except for very very rare instances.
i will never not miss this show
This show probably has my favourite animation in any adult animation this is probably the best example of the animators work
This hits me right when Bertie comes, the screen gets so dark and you don't even notice until she comes in with the light and you can see and feel the weight lifted.
You know what this is?
_Character growth_
The artist and song is: Lido Pimienta - eso que tu haces (That thing you do).
This is a great show. It hits on so many levels. Many of us can relate. The life situations they're going through many of us have been there. It's interesting to see play out but frustrating at the same time because many of us have learned from their mistakes they're experiencing (that whole "been there and done that").
This scene literally almost made me cry. A beautiful example of visual storytelling, it made me really feel for Tuca… but of course Bertie coming in was so fun and powerful! Anyone know the name of the beautiful song?
Edit: nevermind someone posted it in later replies haha
what’s the song?
@@rosyrascalz Hello! Not sure if you found it yet, but it looks to be "Lido Pimienta - eso que tu haces"!
I love this show so much. So happy it's renewed for a new season, deserves to run as long as it can. How it touches on psychology and the complications/intricacies of relationships gets me every time. I think everyone has had at least one Kera in their lives no matter how short or long. Someone so unbending and controlling and can make you question oneself and feel not good enough. I knew a few people like this (friends and some family members) and then just like Kera when they can't control you they ghost without notice since it's just another means of control in the situation. Belittle concerns and reprimand honesty about thoughts and feelings. It's the worst.
Kera did Tuca so dirty but so glad Tuca and Bertie has such a strong friendship and they avoided that stupid troupe "friend warns about prtner and it causes a rift between friends" (even though this happens in real life a lot). I'm so glad this show prioritizes female comradery since often times media tends to pit women against each other with cattiness/ill will/jealousy/etc. Just nice to get adult animation like this for adults. It can have the crude humor and explicitly it wants but when there's something to tell/express it takes it serious enough for the audience to as well and respect what's said.
It always gives me chills when bertie comes out
What I noticed during Kara and Tuca's dances was how Kara's dance moves had so many more lines just to make the moves, while Tuca's lines are effortlessly done, this could represent how Tuca feels about Kara, thinking that Kara deserves to have perfect movement and needs more effort put into her lines so it looks perfect.
This is just a theory, it's most likely just an artistic thing.
I love how much they care for each other. 🥺
This scene hit different...
0:56 never fails to give me chills
I'm so glad I've discovered this show. It's one of my favourites as of right now
"Eso que tú haces no es amor" (That thing you are doing it is not love). I loved that part. So accurate
Despite not watching the show, I can find its possible meaning as something relatable to me.
I’ve been through an online relationship for 20 months before it became toxic. I felt tiny, a toy, and something that was only worth to “please” my partner. I lost much appreciation for life, since I was only focusing on them. Luckily, I left them when I finally realized how much pain we were both dealing with. Their pain came from their own problems and stuff, and mine came from theirs and mine. Although, that doesn’t seem like a worry to me anymore, since I’ve been capable of growing out of it and learnt so much from it.
imagine isolating someone for 3 weeks and tricking them into thinking you were good for them and then saying "I'm happy to leave" the second you don't get your way
I had no business crying at this beautiful scene. I just love how the music and the dances depicted Tuca’s inner struggle! I love this show so much!
I honestly cannot stop watching this, It’s just so beautiful and representative
I miss my friendship that ended cuz she got too caught up in an abusive relationship... Guess I couldn't dance with her well enough to pull her back from being erased. 😟 This scene made me cry.
Oh man, this scene made me cry when i first watched it it was so impactful for me
Ahi te vi
sentada en la arena
*(There i saw you)*
*(Sitting in the sand)*
Ahi te senti
Peleando en la marea
*(There i felt you)*
*(Fighting the tide)*
Mirame a la cara cuando me hables
No me digas nada si no quieres
*(Look at my face when you speak to me)*
*(Don't tell me something if don't want to)*
Pero no me falles, me duele
No exagero cuando te digo
*(But don't fail me, it hurts)*
*(I don't exaggerate when i tell you)*
Pero no me falles me duele
No exagero cuando x2
*(But don't fail me it hurts)*
*(I don't exaggerate when)*
Eso que tu haces x3
*(That thing you do)*
No es amor x2
*(Is not love)*
I just thought the lyrics where meaningfull so i made this traduccion
My favorite scene in the show. Amazing visual storytelling, every idea and emotion is crystal clear, this is what the medium of animation was meant for.
I love how this show can portray domestic abuse subtlety as that’s how it can be in real life.
Thank goodness for adult swim for saving this show back then when Netflix dumped it and now we got season 3 to look forward to
So glad you uploaded this. Such a powerful and beautiful moment. So happy Tuca and Bertie were brought back by AS. :)
I know Bertie's entrance made people cry (which is understandable) but I can't help but smile. This is what a good, healthy relationship looks like. Romance can be great, but it can also be awful. A good friendship beats a bad relationship any day.
I remember watching this for the first time and getting shivers
Wow i don't even watch this show but i love how they are giving Lido Pimienta more recognition with things like this, specially giving that much screen time and at with a cool animation ❤️🇨🇴
Please watch it. It's very good!
I’m so glad Tuca and Bertie have each other in their lives.
Not all important relationships in a person’s life have to be romantic or familial. Not all romantic or familial relationships should be kept or have to be important.
The people in your life should help you bring about the best version of yourself and so should you. Live a life full of color and light with the people who love you and whom you love too.
I was watching this episode after I had eaten an edible and it kicked in *right* when this scene started and I cried sooo hard
This is literally me rnnn
I always love the body types they use in Tuca and Berty... I don't think there is anything wrong with typically animated/drawn body types of course, all bodies are beautiful, but I do love the different rep in the show! It's a nice change compared to what I usually see
Yeah I definitely agree. Most bodies you'll see in cartoons, _especially_ adult cartoons, either make their women hourglasses, or they're fat and meant to play either antagonist or comic relief. You very rarely see a body like the ones in T&B with tubbies and tushies and chubs on their legs, a very common body type, not exaggerated to be extra appearing or off-putting, just an average looking 30/40 y/o woman. I appreciate the show for that
Same, I love how Tuca especially is a very realistic depiction of a curvy woman. A lot of media will have a curvy woman who just has an hourglass figure and is super skinny, which is seldom what actually happens. Tuca though? Girl got stomach rolls, she got big thighs and she certaintly doesn't have a flat stomach.
When bertie walks in, brings in the color and picks tuca up, it always brings me chills.
gives me CHILLS ever rewatch when Bertie marches in ❤️🔥
Watching this makes me think of my old friend. I hope one day I'll find him again. The Times we played together were really the happiest parts of my life.
It makes me cry when berttie comes in firey red to rescue her bestie😭 this will always be a masterpiece. Never let anyone treat u badly. U deserve love❤️
This show give us me the good feels. even when it makes me sad i feel the love. I wish the world would watch
My best friend died a few days ago. She made me feel like Bertie did for Tuca. When she met me, I was trapped in a cycle of abuse with multiple people. I had shrunk myself down to a microscopic level, completely forgetting who I was. Then her comes my soon-to-be friend, with her brilliant, shining energy. She reminded me of how I use to dance so freely, before the world taught me to be small. I thought of her when I watched it last week, but watching it tonight broke me into pieces. I will never dance with her again. I will have to maintain my light on my own. I will be eternally grateful that she helped me find it again.
“Oh yeah, she FULLY sucks.”
That she does, Speckle. That she does.
Just finished the episode with this scene in mind and the algorithm delivered
When Bertie came into the dance sequence it gave me chills.😳❤️
Omg me tooooooooo I was like wowwwwwww I want what tuca and bertie have 🥹
Why is my favorite part of this that the Bertie Silhouette has little heels?
This scene is so just great. I adore how tuca and Bertie is funny and wacky but handles serious topics so well.
i love this scene since it shows how when Tuca felt small Bertie made her feel big! even with Berties tragic secret she still pushes forward and thats how friendship should truly be, not backstabbing or cheating but helping each other even in the darkest of moments
Best moment from season 2.
Can't stop watching it,it's so beautiful it sends shivers down my spine.
I hope Tuca will find happiness in season 3!
I will never get over this scene...
The show went into telling another way an abusive relationship can form, abuse isn't just strictly physical it's also mental witch is worse as the person will forever remember those feelings unlike a visible scar that may stay but you don't feel pain the moment you see it.
Shows are always quick to show relationships where the partners hurts the other by punching, slamming, or harming them in some way but they don't talk about the relationships where the partners uses their words as venom to mentally impact and form their -lover- victim into the way THEY want them with out having to change themselves. They guilt-trtp, they make their -lover- victim think their friends are a bad influence, but most importantly they don't show their "-lover- victim" affection but are quick to bash them when they themselves don't receive any, and when their -lover- victim ask a question that sounds remotely close to doubting they lash out at them.
These relationships are the worse as they can change the person whose being inflicted by it to the point of no return.
i also did a comment on what i the the dance was saying in the reply.
What I analyzed from the scene
It starts off with Tuca alone,
she meet Kara and they get to know one each other (the dance represents their personality)
Kara is calm, well organized, she likes to keep in her bubble.
Tuca is wild, crazy, and isn't afraid to go where others won't
Kara doesn't like the way she acts and scolds her. (hint she pops Tuca's butt with her beak)
Tuca is sad that she doesn't felling like she's locked up in a dark room, trapped (Background becomes black setting the mood)
Tuca looks at Kara for guidance since she's now lost.
Kara tells her to follow HER lead and Tuca does just that.
After a while Tuca starts to feel like she isn't herself anymore she feels smaller thinking Kara is much better than her.
Kara can now handle her without issues since she knows Tuca looks up to her.
But she remembers Bertie.
Bertie reminds her of what a free girl with a healthy relationship looks like.
She brings back light to Tuca.
Bertie is weird, organized, and tries her best to ease on into others.
Kara doesn't like this new found energy backing off.
Kara let's go of Tuca.
Showing just how little she cares as she makes a run for it.
Bertie picks Tuca up to show her how she rolls.
Tuca joins in Feeling like herself again
She doesn't feel little anymore
She adds in her own dance moves and Bertie goes right along with her.
i really wasn't expecting this scene to move me so much, i was fighting back tears