2017 BMW M4 CS: Is the new 454bhp CS worth its £90k price tag? | Autocar

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  • The new BMW M4 CS occupies the middle ground between the standard M4 and the M4 GTS. But can some exotic weight-saving parts and a slight uplift in power to 454bhp justify a near-£90,000 price tag? Subscribe now: smarturl.it/autocar
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  • @tiagobernardo6807
    @tiagobernardo6807 7 років тому +149

    the little exterior details make it look 3 times cooler, and the color is awesome

    • @bonofrancou2
      @bonofrancou2 7 років тому +34

      That's the most beautiful M4 I have seen!

    • @iliovecaRS
      @iliovecaRS 7 років тому

      Tiago Bernardo not worth 30k Lol

  • @drdj69
    @drdj69 7 років тому +52

    4 years later, M4 is still the king. beautiful car.

    • @vernonprice5986
      @vernonprice5986 7 років тому +4

      King of what? It gets beaten by almost literally everything else in its class.

    • @drdj69
      @drdj69 7 років тому +20

      everything else? go watch how awful the new RS5 is. go watch the problems with the Guilia , literally stops while driving. c63s is good, lovely engine n sound , but its 300kgs heavier and steering is numb. to answer your question M4 is king on track and a great everyday as well.

    • @vernonprice5986
      @vernonprice5986 7 років тому +1

      +drdj69 - "go watch the problems with the Guilia"
      You clearly don't understand what "get beaten" means. The Giulia easily outperforms the M4 REGARDLESS of whatever problems you think it has, This is an established fact and it's not up for debate.
      The C63s is also faster than the M4, and the Cadillac ATS-V beats the M4 every time they're put head to head against each other.
      "to answer your question M4 is king on track and a great everyday as well."
      Except it isn't, as proven by recorded lap times, and it's not as good "everyday" as most of the other cars in its class either.

    • @MidhunS
      @MidhunS 6 років тому

      Vernon Price He even spelt 'Giulia' wrong.

    • @carsdailypage7346
      @carsdailypage7346 6 років тому +10

      Vernon Price c63s faster than the m4 on the track? Lol

  • @hench_wrench_repairs
    @hench_wrench_repairs Рік тому +3

    5 years later where you can get one for 50k. Yes. Yes it is worth it. Best car ever created

  • @michaelxie4563
    @michaelxie4563 7 років тому +45

    San Marino blue❤️

  • @rare6499
    @rare6499 7 років тому +32

    Crazy money when you look at what you get over the Competition. Good car no doubt, but honestly I think this just highlights how disappointing the stock M4 is. The stock M4 should be a much better car...

    • @lucarossi8913
      @lucarossi8913 7 років тому

      Josh Charlie yea they made so many different versions of the m4 and m3 lol proves that the regular one isn't that good , im a huge bmw fan, my favourite brand i have an x6m but the m3 n m4 are disappointing

    • @stefanfreestylez
      @stefanfreestylez 6 років тому +10

      When the m4 came out nobody bitched a dam thing about it. Now these "experts" saying o the original was crap comp is soooo much better. The avg m4 owmer wont track it and wont push it to its limit even if they do track it. That accounts for like 1% of buyers that actually will try and do that. The car is id say a lil dissapointing with steering feel(avg person wontnotice it) and the sound is prr crappy.

  • @chrischerry1582
    @chrischerry1582 5 років тому +6

    This is the best m4 review I’ve seen, very informative and unbiased and told me exactly what I wanted to know

  • @DoctaM3
    @DoctaM3 7 років тому +2

    Such a great review--honest, comprehensive. KUDOS guys!

  • @dennismorales163
    @dennismorales163 7 років тому +11

    My 2015 M4 cost me around 54,336 (in British Pound Currency) with 425HP, so to me is way too much the difference between the two. I rather step-up mine to about the same 454HP, which will require less money in doing so. If I had that kind of money to spend it on a car, I would probably get something way much better than an M4 CS...

    • @alexmartinez280
      @alexmartinez280 4 роки тому +2

      The peak power bump is a small part of the whole package. It was a package that really cured all of the short comings of the standard car. I do agree that in a better world with time to properly engineer and develops the car it should have be closer to this from the gate than the version that was offered.

  • @TheGetawayer
    @TheGetawayer 7 років тому +6

    Great to see a new review from you Dan!

  • @tp7278
    @tp7278 7 років тому +335

    This presenter is great

    • @lojanenicholls
      @lojanenicholls 7 років тому +19

      See his older videos at EVO

    • @soulfeed5740
      @soulfeed5740 7 років тому +25

      He should be on Drivetribe!

    • @tomtom255
      @tomtom255 7 років тому +14

      Dan is solid, he needs a thesaurus so he can come up with an adverb other than "really".

    • @kurt2rsenjazz
      @kurt2rsenjazz 7 років тому +5

      and 'mega'

    • @walidahmed4193
      @walidahmed4193 7 років тому +2

      Nah he uses 'really' too many times. It's so annoying

  • @ob4485
    @ob4485 7 років тому +2

    for those who are freaking out about the 90k msrp, think about the future status of this CS and its resale value... food for thought

  • @youssefelmalty
    @youssefelmalty 7 років тому

    Awesome Vlog - Clear and Crisp information - Thank you so much!

  • @MyRealName
    @MyRealName 7 років тому

    Great to see Dan in action again. Can't wait for more!

  • @chawenhalo0089
    @chawenhalo0089 4 роки тому +2

    Very good review. Good to see a car that does what it says on the tin: Clubsport, slightly compromised every day, fantastic B road blaster and far better on the odd track day.

  • @Bmwbroo
    @Bmwbroo 3 роки тому +3

    I’d say you can’t go wrong with a second hand 2017+ m4 competition

    • @Chris-jt4ux
      @Chris-jt4ux 8 місяців тому +1

      better than the M4C tbh, hands down.

  • @dor1tomcswagger69
    @dor1tomcswagger69 7 років тому +11

    damn it's pricey but I love that colour

  • @_7.8.6
    @_7.8.6 7 років тому +23

    The price over the standard is unjustifiable
    The CS is how the M cars should be to begin with. The brand is becoming too diluted.

    • @drdj69
      @drdj69 7 років тому +3

      deep shit you need to come up with your own comment.

    • @alexmartinez280
      @alexmartinez280 4 роки тому

      The car as a whole is way better and definitely worth the price hike to those that can afford it. Second hand will be the time to buy in 3 yrs after new

    • @rogermoore2365
      @rogermoore2365 3 роки тому

      It's worth the money

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 7 років тому +45

    The M4 should have been as good as the CS is to begin with. How much better could this $90k CS be than the M4? well that just says how much BMW slacked off to begin with.

    • @rare6499
      @rare6499 7 років тому +5

      Honfy Lam absolutely agree

    • @VaunShiz
      @VaunShiz 7 років тому +1

      Honfy Lam yea the base M4 is garbage , you don't get the competition pack or better , you've wasted your money

    • @AlexMacho765
      @AlexMacho765 7 років тому +4

      Here in the states the price difference between an m4 and a comp pack one is so small you'd be a moron to buy a normal m4. I've seen more comp pack m4s going for less than the normal m4 because of the ridiculous options. Really surprised they didn't discontinue the normal model

    • @drdj69
      @drdj69 7 років тому +8

      bro normal m4 is really good. u need to calm the fk down. this is just better. remember its been 4 years since its launch and its still keeping up with the amgs and rs . stfup

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si 4 роки тому

      Totally agree. I appreciate how good the CS is, but why does it take so many iterations of the same model to get it right?

  • @delmonte_mtl1632
    @delmonte_mtl1632 7 років тому

    Nice to see you again Dan , super review again 👍🏻 , your the man :-)

  • @adamperkins3125
    @adamperkins3125 7 років тому

    Brilliant review! Well done chap 👍🏻

  • @lakmalantony8505
    @lakmalantony8505 7 років тому +10

    Solid review

  • @JeffDell
    @JeffDell 7 років тому

    I really have to say that I really really think that this is a really really good review, really.

  • @paulgregroy1986
    @paulgregroy1986 5 років тому

    OMG! You're so professional you're better than 5th gear you're better than Top Gear on the TV. Amazing BMW amazing video

  • @guillaume6254
    @guillaume6254 7 років тому +1

    The look of the m4 cs in insane

  • @Simon-jd3fz
    @Simon-jd3fz 7 років тому

    A very nice video, it would also be better if there're track tests

  • @Naseefaek
    @Naseefaek 7 років тому +4

    very good review.. love it

  • @jim.e.baldwin
    @jim.e.baldwin 7 років тому +3

    My goodness, a proper review. Not a watered down Clarkson review telling us how "the car makes me feel". Look forward to see your next one. Cheers.

  • @nagdeep299
    @nagdeep299 7 років тому

    when will you shift up to sport/sport+ mode ??

  • @SuperSharang
    @SuperSharang 7 років тому +11

    when did you join autocar?

  • @Neil2022
    @Neil2022 7 років тому +6

    9:55, nowhere in the door cards to put your wallet? You wouldn't need a wallet after spending that much on an m4.

  • @shoshKid
    @shoshKid 6 років тому +1

    is there a comparison video of an M4 cs vs C63s ?

  • @grahamcardwell5947
    @grahamcardwell5947 7 років тому +1

    Nice work dan good to see you back on the videos but £95k for M4 with ceramics err no ta

  • @christianb.4385
    @christianb.4385 7 років тому

    Dan Prosser a good journalist. Thank you man.

  • @CruiserZone
    @CruiserZone 7 років тому

    Did BMW do a CS e92 or was just the e46 and this?

  • @M3Conv
    @M3Conv 7 років тому +6

    I don't really get it, the competition pack is only £3K more than a standard M4, but the CS is £30K extra?
    Anyway, who cares as i pick up my CP in two weeks. I bet BMW don't sell many standard M4's these days as the CP is noticeably faster, better handling and more comfortable

    • @DubC
      @DubC 6 років тому +1

      M3Conv lmao more comfortable? You’re definitely mistaken there, even though it’s not unbearable the ride is noticeably harder in the competition pack!!

    • @javidrana3720
      @javidrana3720 2 роки тому +1

      I have a 2019 cp and traded in my rs5. Great in dry but rs5 so much better in all other conditions. Would I revert to rs5, no way, m4cp so much more fun even if it can be a bit lazry!

  • @PatrickEVRAable
    @PatrickEVRAable 7 років тому

    will there be a manual cs?? This could be the best looking M car since E46 CSL maybe?

  • @anthonydayspring9923
    @anthonydayspring9923 7 років тому +1

    Great presenting....but is there a touch of Harris in his delivery?

  • @dodgydodds
    @dodgydodds 7 років тому

    Good presenter. did you poach him off the EVO channel full time?

  • @braveyard00
    @braveyard00 7 років тому

    great review!

  • @nicksokolis6343
    @nicksokolis6343 7 років тому +2

    I think the back lights are OLEDs not LEDs. Nice review.

  • @MA-xo8cf
    @MA-xo8cf 7 років тому

    whats the difference between v6 and inline 6 cyl?

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep61 7 років тому

    Great Video Review

  • @alexanderlinton9578
    @alexanderlinton9578 7 років тому

    Great review.
    I have competition package which is uncomfortable enough for a daily. This seems a bit too much. The lightweight doors seem gimmicky and not practical.

  • @ismaeli9995
    @ismaeli9995 7 років тому

    Yes, definitely YES. What a beauty!

  • @temelerdinch528
    @temelerdinch528 6 років тому

    Great review

  • @miketucker592
    @miketucker592 6 років тому

    Excellent assessment and believable

  • @talalaldossary2656
    @talalaldossary2656 7 років тому

    Good presentation 👏

  • @carrara_bit8649
    @carrara_bit8649 7 років тому +1

    I love the oled !!!

  • @heamees4822
    @heamees4822 7 років тому +52

    Dan Prosser also here, is EVO officially dead?

    • @andrewsmith410
      @andrewsmith410 7 років тому +13

      Well Harry got a garage most of evo member have gone to drive tribe so yeah Orr .... drive tribe is the new evo ??

    • @stubones
      @stubones 7 років тому +6

      Andrew Smith EVO is primarily a magazine (from Dennis Publishing). The UA-cam channel is just a bit on the side. Drivetribe is not a replacement for EVO.

    • @fightingfenix4601
      @fightingfenix4601 7 років тому +1

      Evo is dead and I am very sad about that.

    • @jeebus2121
      @jeebus2121 7 років тому +3

      When Bovington and Catchpole went to Drivetribe that basically left one main video presenter: Dickie Meaden. So the drop in their output is pretty understandable.

    • @1seipai
      @1seipai 7 років тому +1

      jeebus2121 Evo is still going with people like Dan Prosser. Steve Sutcliffe is contributing! 😮

  • @ToroLaszlo
    @ToroLaszlo 7 років тому

    great review

  • @ArtVandelayOfficial
    @ArtVandelayOfficial 7 років тому

    The leather on the binnacle surround has a fault @ 5:25

  • @mexistratman1
    @mexistratman1 7 років тому

    Really happy to see a review of a car on a road! Sick of seeing track driving all the time.

  • @paolasanchezd
    @paolasanchezd 7 років тому

    Dan you started the video asking whether this is the best M4 for the money and ended with this is the M4 to buy....but you left out if it was a better bargain than the M4 competition.....so what's your verdict on that?

  • @jazzjohnson6
    @jazzjohnson6 7 років тому +1

    quite possibly the most desirable drivers car on the market

  • @danibiker8379
    @danibiker8379 6 років тому

    Always cool to have a special edition M car but in that case... i think its better to get standard M4 and then tune it with Hamann or G-power. Correct me if im wrong but... if bonnet is CF you cant bend it like that right? Look like aluminium to.me... t

  • @DevjyotDhanjal
    @DevjyotDhanjal 7 років тому +2

    Dan was very Chris Harris like in this 🙌🏽

  • @victoroporta6752
    @victoroporta6752 7 років тому

    4:31 Why is there a pull tab and a door handle?

  • @saxophone12player
    @saxophone12player 7 років тому

    What color is that ?

  • @7daysCroissant
    @7daysCroissant 7 років тому +1

    blue velvet color first was used with e39 bmw

  • @Strengthoftenmen
    @Strengthoftenmen 7 років тому +16

    Not worth it. Get a comp pack M4 add the MPE and the MPHAS or any exhaust and suspension set up of your choice and you've got a more practical and equally as compliant M4 for 30k less!

    • @muzman777
      @muzman777 7 років тому +2

      Ecu flash, set of OHlins and get it set up properly. Amazing.

    • @s4ms0n1t3
      @s4ms0n1t3 7 років тому

      Strengthoftenmen it's true, bmw seem to have far too many cars in their line-up now. this cs is just another in-house tune up. which like you said, you can probably do for alot cheaper with aftermarket parts which do as good of a job?

    • @alexmartinez280
      @alexmartinez280 4 роки тому

      Modding will only add loss of value and this CS will always be worth more on the market, especially over a modded car no matter the parts.

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si 4 роки тому

      Alex Martinez that’s not necessarily true. As long as you keep the mods tasteful and with only OEM parts, should keep value the same or increase a little (if you’re selling to another enthusiast). I bought a 2016 M3 Comp and changed the 666M wheels on it to the lighter weight 763M wheels you get on these CS’s. One guy even came up to me in a parking lot thinking mine was a CS for a second lmao.

  • @SiyxmTTS
    @SiyxmTTS 7 років тому +2

    The CS is a Frankenstein, made of other bits from the other cars in the same line

  • @alewis276
    @alewis276 4 роки тому +1

    The first person who has ever complained about a BMW steering wheel.....

  • @thelegendthatismatt
    @thelegendthatismatt 7 років тому +8

    Great presenter this guy

  • @DaveBibbs
    @DaveBibbs 7 років тому

    When are you guys reviewing the new RS5?

  • @hajimuhammadfaizhajikudil2115
    @hajimuhammadfaizhajikudil2115 7 років тому

    my new favourite presenter

  • @adityajethi7250
    @adityajethi7250 7 років тому

    That car looks so wild and desirable. ...man i want one

  • @petercavellini3232
    @petercavellini3232 7 років тому

    What is it with this more power ?, you can't use all of it all of the time,if you do you'll get your collar felt pretty quick by the Rozzers!

  • @H4Haris
    @H4Haris 7 років тому +1

    Beautiful car

  • @mubblemann
    @mubblemann 7 років тому +1

    So now we have the M4, M4 Competition, M4 GTS, M4 CS and M4 DTM.

  • @ilibertywalkedmybaconct4445
    @ilibertywalkedmybaconct4445 7 років тому

    Great Presenter:D

  • @waitwuttt
    @waitwuttt 7 років тому

    M4 competition package is the perfect one. also comes in a manual

  • @eddieconroy212
    @eddieconroy212 6 років тому +2

    £30k over the base M4? No way!

  • @hammmodjabeer7278
    @hammmodjabeer7278 7 років тому +1

    one of the best sports car

  • @harrisonkay575
    @harrisonkay575 4 роки тому

    In Australia our plates are all nice metals. So many choices would hate to have plastic.

  • @thedubaidriver6167
    @thedubaidriver6167 7 років тому

    ... was it fun when you have an M3 and then M3 CSL and that was IT!!!

  • @armandoluis4435
    @armandoluis4435 7 років тому

    i think the outside gopro is amazing

  • @f.f.thegentlemandriver
    @f.f.thegentlemandriver 7 років тому

    Amazing! Thanks

  • @HussienA
    @HussienA 7 років тому

    Great review! CS stand for..? 🤔

    • @zsm5833
      @zsm5833 7 років тому +1

      Hussien A. Club Sport

  • @Alexr-uf3zn
    @Alexr-uf3zn 6 років тому

    Think I'd rather buy a standard m4 competition package and then buy the new rs focus for the wet days keep the m4 for dey miles and the all wheel drive on the focus be handy on wet roads

  • @saeedg4271
    @saeedg4271 7 років тому

    so basically a review of the CUP2 tires :)

  • @footerotica
    @footerotica 4 роки тому

    My gf thought I was watching porn at night but little did she know I was just drooling over the M4 CS. What a beautiful piece of machinery.

  • @muratk.8296
    @muratk.8296 7 років тому

    It gives me the feeling that the styling changes are actually stolen from a Guilia QV. Carbon fromt splitter, wheels very similar design (they are bbs fi-r derivative) and the rear spolier. Anyone see those similarities?

  • @PatrickEVRAable
    @PatrickEVRAable 7 років тому +2

    When did Dan Prosser leave Evo?? Evo has lost everyone, shame it used to be my fave channel

  • @AsifLicious
    @AsifLicious 7 років тому

    Even though the cs is cool, I'd never get one over a competition package regular M4. I'm not spending that much money to get string for door handles

  • @MrKal321
    @MrKal321 7 років тому

    It should be compared to the competition pack not the base car, at which point you'd realise it's a lot more money for 10bhp/34lbft/35kg saving.

  • @RB-xv4si
    @RB-xv4si 4 роки тому

    35 kg lighter than a standard M4? In a R&T article, Jason Camissa noted that it was only about 9 kg lighter.

  • @abdulkhan2694
    @abdulkhan2694 7 років тому +15

    Not worth it for me im just going to lose 35kg in weight and get a re map on a normal m4 job done

    • @larstofastrud1788
      @larstofastrud1788 5 років тому +5

      Abdul Khan, I owned a 2015 M4 and just upgraded to an M3 CS, and it feels like a completely different car. It's not just 35 kg and a few more hp.

    • @alexmartinez280
      @alexmartinez280 4 роки тому

      Lars Tofastrud BINGO! People really believe the only measure of a car is peak HP when it is not nearly the most important. The CS is a different car and resale will always show this as these cars will hold value well compared to the standard. It is crappy considering the M4 is an expensive car stock and there should be no poop versions of an M car offered. M should be the top and the more developed cars later on should just become the EVO versions offered in the place of the standard, NOT along side. Just my opinion though.

  • @Aliasify
    @Aliasify 7 років тому

    For the price I'd want to actually choose the kind of gearbox I get.

  • @petemorbius3936
    @petemorbius3936 4 роки тому

    safe the money & get the regular m4 facelift (competition pack)

  • @mazenkassem2373
    @mazenkassem2373 3 роки тому

    1/4 mile ??

  • @jamiep61
    @jamiep61 7 років тому

    You should be the Head Of Video at Autocar as you have taken over from Matt Prior. Also plenty more New Models to Video Review this year Including Hot Hacthes, Sports Cars and Supercars

  • @AwesomeBob
    @AwesomeBob 7 років тому +3

    Seems like the CS is meant to be a weekend driver's car; not a DD.

    • @88jdiesel
      @88jdiesel 4 роки тому

      You're right on the money, weekend track days, the regular m3/m4 is the daily.

  • @hugomeyers7391
    @hugomeyers7391 7 років тому

    M4 Competition/CS vs Audi RS5 vs Mercedes C63s edition 1. Who will do it first?!

  • @baitse7676
    @baitse7676 7 років тому

    but can he touch the pedals?

  • @lucozade8373
    @lucozade8373 7 років тому +1

    Why do they keep adding small changes to the 3 and 4 series and slapping an extra £20k...

  • @jmmoters1851
    @jmmoters1851 7 років тому

    in korea bmw m4 cs price over 120K.
    considering all of about this car,it's worth. i was so surprised cheaper than my country..
    if i was lived in your country,i would bought m4 right away.

  • @g7sky
    @g7sky 6 років тому

    is meant for race track not long journeys

  • @dalilaburgos3289
    @dalilaburgos3289 7 років тому

    Lap times please. I'd like to see how fast it is compared to the other iterations.

    • @Brunoperes_88
      @Brunoperes_88 7 років тому

      Dalila Burgos On Nürburgring he did 7:39m

  • @thefastlifestyle
    @thefastlifestyle 7 років тому

    Used M3 for 45k, Stage 1/2 remap. Exhaust and some aero and it'll be just as good.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 7 років тому

      RelaxB go further. Used e92 330 for $15k, and the rest on go fast bits. Even further still, used e36 M3 for $7k and have gobs leftover. See the issue?

  • @jw6188
    @jw6188 7 років тому +4

    Nobody can ever get tired of beating that "it doesn't sound like an E92 V8" dead horse.

    • @warrenw8705
      @warrenw8705 3 роки тому +1

      Nor should they. The S65 was epic.