Signature Reduction 101 | How Modern Equipment Can Compromise You
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- Опубліковано 17 чер 2024
- Modern gear and equipment is amazing - but when use improperly it can be more of a liability than a benefit. In this episode we take a look at many of the "tactical" items a modern prepared civilian owns and how they can compromise you.
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00:00 True Story
02:31 Shape
10:20 Shine
25:02 Shadow and Silhouette
26:25 Sound
29:31 Signal
33:28 Final Thoughts
20yrs of military COMSEC/EKMS experience: Secure comms does not make it harder to detect. It makes it harder to decrypt. Your signal still can be picked up with DF capability just by keying up.
How easy is it to track just when receiving/listening and not transmitting at all? Appreciate you speaking up, real world experience is of such value to us average Joe's.
@@Jordan-ql6tmthat is different, your speaking on electronic intelligence signal detection. Being able to detect energized electronic devices that are like radios not being keyed up or a radar that is sweeping. Totally different from COMSEC. Its very easy to track anything that is electronic and it most commonly used by the military and law enforcement. I’m not gonna dive too deep into it, but the patriot act open up the windows for anybody to be tracked and listen to at any given time if you are considered a national threat. Just google stingray devices.
@@juicekrewe8490yup and the Restrict Act (falsely called TikToc ban) is like the Patriot Act 10x for the internet and connected devices.. which I'm sure you already know a lot about. Pretty much why I'd like to learn other systems, at the minimum it's fun fascinating stuff lol.
@@Jordan-ql6tm PLL crystal oscillators (part of the circuitry) do produce a signal that can be tracked. But they do not propagate far enough to be a worry. (50-75 meters) If you have a hostile force within 50-75 meters, I would be more worried about visual detection over electronic detection.
@@Venom2U now that's fascinating, appreciate you saying that I'm going to go learn about that right now LOL
That intro speech after the skit, I thought it was a lead in to a VPN sponsorship, lol.
Honestly same! I started skipping and then had to go back because I skipped info lol
Dude same
Lmao I'm glad I'm not the only one who skipped and then went back.
I did too lmao I was a 100% sure it was an add
Lmao their stars are gonna show everyone skipped.
Wildly overlooked: heat signature. Make sure you’re room temperature before going out at night.
Drew made himself room temp. Lol
@@musicnation7946 Think it's a joke, you're room temperature when you're dead.
Room temperature....I hope that was sarcasm lol
if you're fully kitted and moving around, You're going to give off a huge heat signature.
@@6030jdr Room temperature to mean dead is a newer development most people probably don't use it that way.
ND's with white weapon lights were always a problem on my tour in A-Stan. On an overnight hike into an objective one bight, the guy two or three people ahead of me accidentally flashed his weapon light, so I started whisper-screaming obscenities at him and told him to pull his head out of his ass. I realized later it was the Company Sergeant Major. He never gave me any grief about it. 😅
That's awesome lol he was probably thankful you night have just saved his life and the rest of your guys! Thank you for serving. 🤙
@@friskthewaffle7672 Yeah, it was in my job description to keep people from screwing up, so he could hardly give me s**t me for doing just that. 😆
@@HamSandwich277 Random Encounter with a TastyHamSandwch?
Props to him for not having an ego about the correction. Good job.
Honestly he probably felt ashamed of himself as well for being "that guy".
One thing nobody considers. Modern laundry detergents contain what are called "optical brighteners." If you wash your camo suits using these detergents they will "light up light a Christmas tree" when viewed through night vision/IR scopes.
Thank you for that!
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I always knew that modern laundry detergent glows bright white under a black light. I guess I never connected the dots. With this in mind, what should you wash your clothes with to avoid this situation?
@@SuperDrake85 I've heard people recommend Woolite for this purpose.
@@SuperDrake85 a lot of guys suggest Borax
Everyone is looking for the guy with multicam, nods, thermals, etc.
But no one expects me, the guy in waders and realtree covered in swamp mud with a pistol grip sawn-off.
I am now haha
@andrewwalters9763 that's okay by the time you find me you won't have even noticed the guy in the trash ghille suit who's been tracking you the last 20 minutes.
My trash ghillie is super effective in an urban area, everyone ignores it (or adds to it)
Exactly..lol I call it common camouflage. Be the trees, swamp or holler. It's very hard to shoot what you cannot see. Hunting all of my life I have learned from the best, deer. They can be standing right beside you and you'll never see them.
This is the real knowledge we seek.
Two things i feel i gotta comment on:
One, radios are like yelling out loud, just because you're yelling in another language (read: encrypted comms) doesnt mean that people cant hear you, just means they dont know what you're saying.
Two: Learning the mechanics of human and animal senses can make a big difference, such as most animals seeing motion before seeing shapes, humans included!
Especially from peripherals. Our eyes are pretty optimized to pick up movement in our peripheral vision
@@sleelofwpg688 yup. at the edge of your vision, you can see LEDs flickering. That´s 100Hz. In your focus spot, you can barely resolve 24Hz.
yeah, folks can triangulate the source of the signal, fairly easily:
There's a reason why comms should stay clear and whatever need be said kept short.
There's a reason why comms lingo is the way it is.
I’m really glad you mentioned the IR coming out of your phones. Not a lot of people realize that. Under nods it’s wild to see for the first time.
IR ports on computers are a huge give away for military command posts at night during field exercises.
I have a galaxy a13. It doesnt have night vision ability on screen, but it detects it.
I found out by playing with my trail camera.
It really is wild. That blinking flash actually hurt my eye for a sec
The wild part is people actually bringing their phones to a combat environment when geo fencing is a thing.
The EUD the military use may be samsung smartphones, but they are sterilized by NSA. No wireless connections at all on the phone, it is designed to plug into your prc.
I have mine covered with tape
Now ask yourself if I am not using face ID to open my phone why does my phone need to scan my face?
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I only have 36 years as a Signals Intelligence analyst so maybe I'm missing something but I'd discount the claim that encrypted comms is harder to pinpoint. In terms of radio direction finding its exactly the same. If anything, encryption will draw more attention.
100% agreed with you. To some extend encryption doesn't matter that much. They can find you whether encrypted or not, with very basic tools that cost less than 200$
What kind of devices would you recommend to pinpoint the opposition force ?
@@Blackstar-yd3yf Look up: TinySA Ultra, a communication receiver and some antenna. For more reference get this book: The guerilla guide to Signal Intelligence
i think it depends on the situation. if its peacetime, and nobody else is using encrypted comms, then i dont want to be the only one standing out. but if its wartime, and most comms are encrypted, then i definitely dont to be one that anyone could just listen in on.
@@nikoc8968 even on the modern battlefield, most radio communications are not encrypted.
Hi, in spite of soldiering for twenty years I do think that you gave one of the best definitions of how to draw attention to yourself that I have ever heard. Never had problems with electric gadgets in my day as my sergeant Robyn the Hood wouldn’t allow them on patrol. I was lucky that my blokes never got annoyed with me in that I never spoke to them all day, but they learned sign language very quickly. I also learned a lot from the TOS in Muscat about desert and jebel patrolling at night. The greatest new lessons I learned was at the School of Jungle Warfare in East Malaya. Lesson one, change to local food a week before going into the jungle, European shit is a dead giveaway and body smell lingers, lesson two, don’t wash before going out as the soap and toothpaste smell lingers, lesson three, give up smoking, the stink of tobacco is a dead giveaway. I remember tracking a platoon of American soldiers just from the candy papers and cigaret buts. These are just basics taught to us by indigenous people, take note or die early! Cheers mate. Harera
These are all things that my father who is a 13-year member of the United States Special Forces Green Beret with two tours in vietnam, he used to tell us. You eat the local food, don't wear deodorant. Don't smoke American tobacco. All of those things are going to give away that Americans are nearby. As my father explained he saw more than one platoon get ambushed, simply because the Viet Cong could smell them coming. Because they were eating western-style food and there were training which you unfortunately was was darwin, told the Vietnam exactly what direction they were going. I can't say that this knowledge would be a huge use in a Modern urban combat environment. Or on a defending our own country. Especially if we're defending it from northern europeans. However not going out stinking of Axe Body Spray or other heavy clones and perfumes. Is a big Advantage not includes laundry soap. Also remember laundry soap contains what are called Optical brighteners. You will light up like a Christmas tree when viewed light gathering night vision or infrared
I'm sorry I just can't stop imagine you calling out proper soldering like that one movie lmao
😂 Tracking a platoon 😂
Drew is getting to be like Kenny on South Park. He gets killed in every intro.
Omg, they killed Drew!
@@davidhochstetler4068 you bastards!!
@@davidhochstetler4068Those damn Feds!
*Drew respawns in a sleeping bag*
Hahahahahahaha spot on. Omg
I recall hearing an anecdotal story from some Nordic military exercise, I think it was Cold Response, where one of the lower-level commanders was accused of cheating because they kept finding the opposing team's location and dropping "artillery" on them and as it turned out, this lower-level commander was using Tinder to triangulate where the opposing force personnel were located, and thereby figure out where they were based. Signals intelligence is scary stuff, and as important as communication equipment is today, traditional hand signals and non-verbal communication are not obsolete.
- A mere civilian.
Leave phones at home or at least don’t patrol with the damn things. They are our electronic leashes.
*SOUND: hand signals and outright sign language can be a game changer for a group.*
Hand Signals!!!?? I'm waving you over!
@@Roonasaur *Hahaha! Well, I'm sure a group could keep hand signals that simple, but I'd recommend learning tactical hand signals. An advanced step beyond that would be to learn American Sign Language because not even most military would recognize any of it which would obviously provide a tactical advantage even if your enemy sees you using those signs. Although I can carry on a simple conversation in ASL, majority of my team doesn't know any ASL.*
(Reminds me of how the Navajo language was used as a code in WWII)
@@Christian_Prepper Of course . . . But I was talking about that time that Colonel O'neill was invisible,
All of a sudden, the rubber front lense caps on Aimpoint PROs, Holosun LAMs, and PVS-14s became way more valuable. I think every YT “unboxing” type video always said something to the effect of “in the trash these go” up until the last year.
I’ve always kept and used even the little bikini ones on the sig Romeo’s are needed
Amen.
Another piece of information for those looking at optics. Keep an eye out for Stadiametric Rangefinders which are integrated into the optic much like windage notches. These are visual so they can replace your IR rangefinders, it can also save you some time compared to the calculator method. Ones made for human targets have their marks made for a height of 1.7 meters (standard). You can use the human one to also range-find a tank or other armored vehicle, exclude the turret and measure from the bottom of the track or wheel to the top of the hull. Where the target perfectly fills in-between the lines is the range the target is at. I know this isn’t exactly related to shine or caps but I felt it might be a relevant subject.
I use one of the sig caps off my Romeo 7 as a homemade white light cap.
As a civvie with exactly 1 bajillion hours inside various mil sims and shooters I can positively confirm that your silhouette will get you killed very quick at distance. Dont skyline yourself. Trees and whatnot BEHIND you can serve you pretty well towards breaking up your outline and make you a harder target.
Thank you Sgt keyboard.
Thanks for this opinion (it has no value).
@@gavins9846I heard he was recently promoted to Officer Keyboard. -Congrats on the promotion Sir.
Stopping motionless every so often is also overlooked movement meta in pvp shooters also... Same reason many small animals tend to pause between movements.
@@Delouser69Pretty much fact, videogames or not.
I'm so glad you guys mentioned the wind in masking sounds, I use this all the time in airsoft/paintball events and it's so hard to get people to understand that our sounds are LOUD, especially when the enemy is listening for you.
Hell thats one of the basics and first lessons you learn as a hunter to disguise your walking pattern and noises
I also use it while hunting, trying to walk an area to push deer, your sound and smell travels A LOT more than what you would think if they’re downwind of you
@@FuckUA-camCensorship2024 Yep, only move when the leaves do.
@@BigG.303 It's more than most people would think. Weirdly enough.
I had some tresspassers once (just some kids from next door playing manhunt) I was trying to tell them to shut up and quit checking their phones and you can hear the guys your looking for . . . chatting and checking their phones, lol, . . . .I was talking to shrubberies,
Fun tip. If you ever forget the formula to mil range something just remember 500 yards and 18”. 500/18 gives you the constant of 27.778.
That is a fun tip. Thanks man!
To your point concerning electronic signals, radar detectors are illegal to use by large truck drivers. A DOT trooper friend of mine was issued a radar detector detector. This confused me, since radar detectors are a passive detection system and do not send out an active beam. When I asked how it worked, he said that ALL electronic devices create a signal and in effect have an electronic signature. As such- the device knew what frequency to scan for. Funny thing is that the same people that made the radar made the detector detector.
Great video.
Is there a Detector Detector detector? 🤔😵💫
Being a "comms guy" myself. I need to correct one thing. Whether a signal/message is encrypted or not has no bearing on its traceability/triangulation. (especially with ground plane or LOS types of transmissions) It's only the contents of the message that that are scrambled/encoded. The only radio transmissions that are Semi/Safe and are highly resistant to triangulation are high density mesh networks, and NVIS radio/networks. Of course, sat comms are VERY hard to trace/triangulate as well (specifically vertical wave incidence). But I don't think most prepared citizens will have a satellite at their disposal. So, it's sort of a moot point......
To pinpoint encrypted transmission you have to first recognize it. Modern encryption is made in such way that cipher text has to hard to distinguish from a random one.
In Afghanistan it was fairly easy to guess that if something emits any kind of radio signal, it's probably someone using a radio. But in places like Ukraine, air is filled with all kinds of radio signals. A random signal could be an interference, or a reflection, or a jammer, or some other form of EW trying to get you shoot in order to pinpoint your artillery... but unencrypted is easily identified. They can still send shells after you, but odds are, they won't.
Do some faraday bag testing. Of 26 I have tested, only *3* blocked 3g, 4g, and gps. Additionally, 2 of those that worked used a layer of metalized mylar (the reflective emergency blanket stuff), known for wearing out quite quickly. So even a working faraday bag might be broadcasting to space after a few miles of walking. You are better off leaving your unique serialized personal locating beacon at home. Even passive receive only GPS can also be tracked using the resonance of the gps antenna, but it is not yet common. Bluetooth however, is detected by 20 year old sat tech.
SLNT, works; hands down.
Tested within 1ft, no signal leaks.
Check them out.
have you tried a tin box? i havent but just curious
What's the best way to test this? Is it doable DIY?
@@ameritus9041 get a burner phone try calling it in the bag if the signal goes through instant fail
I've used multiple Go dark bags and they have stopped signals as well
I appreciate you guys making the most important content rather than what gets the most views, thanks bros
Thank you guys for watching and sharing!
As a child of the 1970's here in the UK, I was so lucky to grow up playing in the woods and hunting with an air rifle, which required good stalking skills due to the limited ranges it was effective out to. I also built concealed camps on other peoples property (oops) and played around constantly with concealment and shape break up and camo. (Only got found out once!) We had no phones, no radios, no hi tech stuff. I did have a cheap scope on my rifle, but added camo break up and scrim to cover and hide it from reflection. We just managed and improvised with whatever we could find and adapt. Learning basic field craft and bushcraft skills outside while stalking rabbits, squirrels and for fun, each other ! was such a lot of fun and good prep for many other things. Roll the years forward and hunting trips and working with young people and cadets has allowed me to pass on many of these skills. So much is basic and really simple. Know where the wind is coming from, how sound travels vast distances, how scent will carry, etc. (avoid wearing a lot of scented deodorants and body sprays when hunting! Dont continually wash your kit in detergents and laundry products that have scent!) Whilst the tech we have is great, like pilots and GPS these days, we have just learned to rely on it for everything. The good old map and compass and stopwatch for navigation, is a less practiced skill in aviation and could be a game changer when the power goes off. The same applies to stealth in the field. Just dump the tech and go back to basics. I made my own data base in a small note book, of ranges and hunting dope back then, by learning how tall regular fence posts were and how they appeared at distance. What size is a gateway? What height might the wall be? If thst is a full height lamp post or telegraph pole, then how far away is it against those other features? How tall do certain species of tree grow along a woodline? How far is it across that field, based on the size of what is in front of you? That little range card you show is a very useful bit of kit!! Easy to make your own and you learn and remember the detail while making it. I would hate there to be a need to fight each other in a civil conflict.....humans are basically so shit! But, just having an awareness of the world outside and getting away from indoors and computer games and a vitual existance, is actually so good for our well being and mental health. Don't necessarily train to believe you might be in some sort of conflict, (so much crap and paranoia talked about prepping and bug out survival! I know it has its place and the world is a wierd and volotile place, but its an obsession in the US!) but maybe learn these skills just to be a better human being. Even just bird watching or watching and filmimg animals can be so hugely rewarding and massively improved by learning basic field craft.
Really good video guys.
I appreciate and have recieved this with a smile on my face...thank you.
@@chrisevans8694 ☺️👍🏻
I'm actually working on a range book right now. Anything/everything relevant is going in there, like range, wind factor, FPS and grainage for rounds, the works.
Bird watching squirrels and fox are fun too. Few people in America from city's have any idea.
30:30 that reminds me of a story I read on 4chan where the US and Norway were doing an exercise and someone on the US team noticed they could triangulate the Norwegian team's position based on their tinder profile. Because their phones were on, and tinder was running in the background, it was constantly tracking their location and sending it out to the website.
Brown Duct tape over the watch screen works really well too. You can peel up one side and re stick it after you are done.
I’m shocked more people don’t watch what y’all are doing and proving. I love you guys and thank you for making the amazing content
Wanted you guys to know how much I appreciate your editing and construction. Having the sounds exampled over the explanation was so very cool.
Thanks man! Nick is very detail oriented and brings life to the videos. Glad it's appreciated!
Enlisted Naval Aircrew from the 80s/90s here. SERE school was the greatest course I had the blessing of attending. I was an ELINT operator that flew in carrier based aircraft. That era was damn near radio silent compared to today, and even then, if there was a signal, I could find you. New subscriber here, awesome channel. If I could add one thing, always check your surroundings for concealment. My wife knows that if I tell her to go to an area, to do it without question. Bad things pop off when we least expect it, so always expect it.
If there is one thing I try and impress upon people who think their RF is squared away, I just politely point out to them that the US Military has had the capability to find super weak emissions from hundreds of miles away for decades... An RC-135 Rivet Joint is a marvelous piece of kit that will turn a Bluetooth signal into near weapons grade GPS coordinates in pretty short order. I'm exaggerating, somewhat, but the principle stands. If it emits an RF signal of ANY TYPE, it can be found, and chances are the US Military has found a way to locate and track it. With drone technology today, this becomes an even bigger risk as the manpower requirements get lower and lower to cover larger and larger areas.
Headlamps. If you aren't using it and it runs on AAA batteries flip a battery around before you throw it in your bag or kit. Under nods I was able to see a dude clear as day on a mountainside because a headlamp got bumped on in his assault pack. Thankfully it was during training but even so it was red-light and in the pack it was basically invisible to the naked eye. Anything that gives off light will always pop on when you don't want it to.
(Edit): Ok I actually finished watching the video. Expanding on movement. Proper use of movement techniques whether it be cloverleafing an objective, tree stacking, "melting" down when someone is looking in your direction, etc work incredibly well and I would love to see dirty civ expand on these concepts. Camoflauge is great but with some proper movement techniques you can get away with not having to agonize over it as much. Of course, all that is rendered kinda useless by thermals unless you are able to keep terrain between you and the guy with thermals.
Theoretically putting the battery in backwards is running DC current the wrong direction. I wouldn't think all devices would be built to handle that.
@moxy82 You would definitely be correct. Thanks for bringing this up. Most small electronics (ie headlamps) from reputable manufactures typically won't have issues. I definitely wouldn't reccomend this as a cure all for any and all electronic devices though for the reason you bring up. And on a similar note if you have a device that runs off of two CR123s do not put a fresh battery in with a partially drained one.
Oddly, standing dead still can be a government away. Counterintuitive, but in the woods, things are always shifting a bit....
I think that's why deer and varmints seem to be able to "sense" when we are looking at them. When we stare we go stock still.....
So shape coupled with motion.
Never install batteries backwards; some circuits may be protected & able to handle it, but others may not.
Instead of leaving one/both out, what I do is install both batteries & slip a thin strip of durable, non-conductive plastic between the battery & contacts, preferably long enough to pull without removing the cover.
This kind of video is exactly why I subscribed to the channel. Well done, gents!
Thanks!
I have been training partisan/guerrilla concepts for 30 years to peasants around the globe. This video is the most up to date full concept video I have seen yet. I emediatly sent links to my cohorts still in the field. This video will save so many lives IF the viewer follows these concepts. Thank you from an old soldier/instructor.
Another very important issue is if you're running multi cam or scorpion pattern, make sure that your uniform is not faded. Because if it is too faded, from a distance it will appear to be a cream color, and you will stick out.
roll in the mud some?
@@paavobergmann4920 That's only effective until the mud dries.
Better off with earth tone outdoor clothing. Camo is a dead giveaway of a "cool guy" loot crate.
You Guys have the best Tactical Content in whole UA-cam! Super entertaining!! ❤❤❤
I love these videos, so informative and good quality. Never stop doing the skits
You did a pretty good job on this guys. Some other points:
- Rattle Can is your friend, not just for rifles. Buckles, and even making DIY camo patterns with it on clothing (and modifying camo otherwise) and such is extremely effective. Several outdoor camo rattlecan brands are good to go, and there's also specialized NIR spraypaint you can get.
- Region and terrain appropriate camo (standard or DIY) matters as much as needs for seasonal changes and those considerations to both effectively camcon to the general environment but also keep irregular contrast or shape detection down. OCP/ Multicam/ Fedcamo is way too bright for some regions.
- ACSS reticles (in variation) have designed ranging tools on them (Dimitri is a genius with those), so with various RCO's and LPVO's that have etched reticles, you have an upper hand over having to use a rangefinder.
Usually I keep my Compass in a pouch on the inside of my rig or in a pocket dummy-corded to the body. When batteries die and whatever else, you DO NOT want to lose that.
Keep your Chemlights in their wrappers (even if opened) and in your pockets or pack until you're ready to use them.
A chart of some kind showing how some of the more popular anodizing, cerakote, and painted rifles look under nods with IR light being casted onto them. Like Geissele DDC and od green, rustoleum vs krylon, etc
Great video, thanks for taking the time to make it.
I love that you brought up the upward facing vee. It cracked me up when people started pointing the brims of their boonie hats to look high speed. First thing I thought of was that’s a very unnatural shape in nature.
Just a random experience here. Had one hell of a work week, havent slept much more than 6 hours in the past 3 days. Threw this and a few others in a playlist and slowly dozed off this morning- ended up having some WILD dreams, may have learned a few things in "practice". Good stuff fellas, haha. That was a wild one. Keep em comin.
Quick note that wasn’t mentioned is that at night make sure your red dot is off. I went to a escape and evasion course last summer where one night the instructors tried to sneak up on our camp with nods and the ONLY thing that gave him away was his red dot on his pistol
I had been questioning the practice of simply spray painting rifles and calling them camouflaged. Thanks for pointing out the the shape is still very recognizable. I'll leave mine black and ponder ways to break up the outline with soft materials.
Black can show well under NV
Love this stuff guys! Grew up hunting and spent a dime in the Army after everything kicked off, so I know some stuff already but good refreshers are always welcome, and the reminder of advancing technology is scary sometimes!
Served in FDF Jaeger brigade and i am still in active reserve unit. I have been on many artic survival and evasion courses and i must say you guys do a very good job explaining basics clearly and well.
I must say when tempartures drop to -30°c and there is 2m of snow and artic winter darkness, then thinks get intresting and litle bit hard.
Alot of good info here. ALWAYS check your gear under ir/NVG's. You would be surprised sometimes what has a relative huge "shine" under NOD's.
Facepaint: remember dark on parts that sticks out (nose/brows/cheekbones/chins/etc) and light on parts that is "sunken in" ( eyeholes/smile dips underneath your chin/neck/etc). Create as "flat" of a face/head as possible.
Funny story on chemlights during a multiday winter movement, 2 weeks ago.
The cold made the plastic body on a chemlight brittle, and one dude activated unintentionally one inside his white snowcamo pantcover. We could see him from AFAR, and where he had walked. Pluss the discoloring on his pants was funny for the rest of the exercise. We all threw our chemlights, inside double ziplocks after that.
That's a phenomenal observation. Thank you for sharing that.
It happened a same thing to a buddy in training. He was doing a marking with some chemlights. He broke one 15cm of his face... Looks like dude was covered with some Predator shit blood.
Always be carefull with those things.
The stuff about hunting is so true. I grew up hunting here in Northern Australia and got so good I would consistently get up close to Feral Animals without them knowing I was there, sometimes I was just in a shirt and thongs no camo at all. Taking other people out with me and explaining to them that there are reasons to do what I do could one day save their lives if SHTF.
Professional quality video. 15 years in the teams. Good to see someone covering such important topics in this day and age.
I really appreciate the info about the uniforms under IR! Great video as always gents!
The cinematography on the intro ....chefs kiss 😊
Nick Jones is the man!
breaking shape is actually extremely important even without technology, on airsoft once i hid myself in a slightly overgrown grass with a regular dark camouflage at night time, broke my shape and i managed to hide myself in the same spot 3 times, while 2 times he was hunting for me and the last time he passed less than a foot away from my head while scanning the area around us, also on video games like Post scriptum (1 life scrimmages) or even cod 4 you can gain loads of advantages if you dont outline yourself
I personally LOVE the long videos. Here to learn. Y’all keep it up! 💪🏼
Great video, I thought I had everything sorted, but I learned a lot. That's why it's important to watch videos on these topics regarding gear, tactics etc, you'll never stop learning. I've removed my patches, turned off the backlight on my UV-5R's and ordered a faraday bag just because of the information that I gathered by watching this. Thank you very much
Edit: I also taped up the white time-strap on my TQ's with black duckt tape
Just as far as watches go I have a fun story, it was an airsoft event but it was a big one. Walkn in the woods with a guy who does some cool guy stuff. As we were walkn he suddenly stopped and dumped rounds into the foliage next to him hitting a guy. Dude asked how he saw him, man saw the tiny little flashing green part that is on the inside of the watch to take your pulse. He was wearing it watch face facing him to try and stop the reflection. Just something else pointing towards why less fancy watches are better.
We love this channel, we love this community, keep it going!!!
We really do!
Thanks man!
The quality of this video is outstanding!
Man great video. The bloopers are always the dessert. We need a little more of em
:)
0:30 This is the face of a man with ulterior motives of joy.
its crazy how much a modern near pear conflict has been able to expose so many issues that for a long time most just dismissed or ignored. That being said if you do have nods its best you keep that to yourself. People who have not yet acquired them only have to see them once to know you're a loot box for them when the time comes. Dont under estimate anyone and their desire to take your shit for themselves even if you think you know them well.
The current conflict basically exposes the whole idea of tromping around like you're playing Arma 3 to be a hilariously bad idea. People need to think less like the Army Rangers and start thinking more like the Taliban. How to hide in plain sight.
It's kinda funny to be honest, the idea of "Bugging out to the Woods" died back in the early 2000s as people realized there was nothing there but starving to death and dysentery. "Bugging in" largely replaced it. Yet now "Bugging out" is back with a new coat of paint and continuing to ignore the grim reality that you're gonna die a lot sooner tromping around the woods than "Bugging in" at home or just blending in with the regular population.
Sure, all of this is incredibly nice to know and I'm glad they made it. Just watch it with the realization that, without modern medevac, you're back close to Civil War era survival rates when you're wounded. Just like learning CPR. Good to know, pray you never have to use it.
@@Crosshair84Yep!
Awesome video guys! Thank you!
Good info, some stuff definitely wouldn’t have thought of!
Loving this kind of content. Not being able to test and train these kind of things, due to financial reasons and restrictions on running around in tactical gear or with weapons, at least we get a glimps and some hints on what not to do.
It will never beat hands on training, but at least we can train on some parts/habits and keep in mind that certain things are dead give aways of our position or situation.
Thanks for the info and looking forward to more of the same!
One thing to notice about cheap clothes is fire resistance. If those clothes melt into the skin, it makes lots of work for the surgeon and also for the recovery...
Civil War Part 2 will have to be fought the same way as Civil War Part 1...with wool uniforms!
@15:49, Thank you for fixing that flag error.
Hi guys, really liked your content on this one!! What I have learned is that no matter who makes any kit, you have to see it's camo properties under visible, IR and thermal observation while employed in LARPing. Only then will you and your squad know how visible you really are. Great tips on all the electric gadgets, and signature reduction!!! I subscribed!😊🎉
Found your channel randomly when it barely had 3 videos on it, stayed for the cool logo (African wild dogs are my favorite animals haha). Love the content, very informative, despite thinking about this kind of stuff a lot, I constantly learn things from your videos that in retrospect just make sense and seem so obvious.
Cheers from an european !
The face you made when you out on the glasses looking at him and then got sprayed with blood is comedy fucking gold
we need a Drew death count lol
It's getting up there. :)
Very well done overview. Good refresher for anyone, and hilarious intro. Keep up the amazing work; its inspiring stuff.
The shockcord with burlap is a realy simple and versatile camo piece. Thanks for the tip.
I obviously haven't finished the video yet, but I felt the need to compliment the cold open. Fantastic 🤣
23:35 Ok, I don't know who else caught this about the ranging cards from "Sobchak Security LLC"...as in "Walter Sobchak", the character played by John Goodman in the Big Lebowski? Freakin' genius!
Walter: "Hand me the uzi"
The Dude: "Uzi!?!"
Walter: "You didn't think I was rolling' out of here naked, did you?"
Thanks you guys! Appreciate you! 🇺🇸🦾🦅
I like that you guys are real... not opinionated, and pushy with the gear YOU NEED ! keep up the content
First time watcher...non-military. I subbed when you brought out the analog range calculator. I'm not a LARPer, too old. But I'm in good enough shape to huff a radio up a mountain and make reports. I would prefer to stay unnoticed especially if I'm reporting on something bad. So cool.
I'm pretty sure encryption makes no difference for locating. Military radios do frequency hopping to avoid jamming. They also use digital signal that is AES 256 encrypted ( I think ). That's not legal to use as a civilian. And if you're not using it you're not trained...
AFAIK there's no solution to real digital encryption for telephony at an affordable price that is also legal for HT's. For HF, there's ways. I'll check out your comm guy's channel (Mojave Repeater) . Most of what I know I've learned via HAM books and self research...so there's a high probability I'm wrong.
14:21 been using red mode for night stuff for a while, very cool that it’s becoming more popular
How the hell do you turn it on?
@@PR0bro For iPhone: in Settings, search for and turn on Color Filters, set it to Color Tint (mess with hue until you get red), then in Settings again, search for Accessibility Shortcut, then set it to Color Filters. Now you just triple click your off button to activate/deactivate it.
@@PR0broon iphone go to accessibility then to display and text size and then click colour filters there you can adjust it
Not sure why this came up in my feed, I know NOTHIGN about any of this, it is not my world, at all. And this was ALL Fascinating! So very well presented!
It’s good you brought up sneezing . A good trick when you feel a sneeze coming is to press the side of your finger under your nose and above your upper lip. It’s a pressure point that stops the sneeze. But you gotta catch it in time or it’s harder for it to work. It seems ridiculous and simple. But it really does work. I learned that in my deployment days in Iraq. Very helpful while on an OP.
Also when there is a good breeze or heavy wind sound travels far! I could hear people talking down the road if there was a good wind..
It's the opposite where I live. When the wind blows, the trees make a lot of noise.
We live on a ridge, and have a neighbor on one side about 400yds away on the next ridge
Sound does some crazy stuff. If there is little wind, I can hear the neighbors talking in their garage.
Sometimes, they will be doing something and the sound bounces to the other side of the house, where we don't have another neighbor for 2 miles.
I have actually gone out "patrolling" the property, because it sounds like someone is doing something on our land.
It always turns out to be the neighbors from the other side, but it sounds so convincing that i still check anyway.
The IR light on a phone is not a face recognition device (usually). It's actually a proximity sensor which is how smart phones prevent you from accidentally pressing the screen when it's against your face.
They're definitly using it for both
They’re two separate things. Later mostly iPhones literally have infrared LIDAR.
Excellent video guys, especially the info on electronics signature and light discipline. Learned a few new things.
I think the best thing I've used in the military was predator vision. It outlines anything with a thermal signature. It doesn't show colors like a standard thermal unit does, it outlines the guy in the thermal blocking ghillie suit. I loved using it as a dismount in Recce teams.
space blankets. all the space blankets. use shoe goo to attach camo netting to them. lay them on top of your entrenchment when yyou dig a bunker. or even if yyou're making a ranger triangle(but lower profile than is traditionally taught so you and only yyou can lay in it)
I really am considering just ditching all the bulky kit and running whatever I can conceal under a loose button up/ jacket and an m1.
I know right just a wood stocked rifle and irons with nothing that uses a battery!😂
A well operating M1 carbine is a very useful tool. Very light and compact especially the para model, and good capacity. If you can find/load soft points or hollow points, it'll out perform almost any handgun up to hot 44Mag or above! The only downside is, they've become stupid expensive for what they are!
@xxxxxxxxxx6903 yeah I already got one though. I absolutely love it
Yup. IRL all the fancy gear is mostly gonna get left in the closet and you'll be blending in with the civilian population like the Taliban. You're not gonna be tromping around at night gathering intel like a COD game. You're gonna be in a neon safety vest during the day pretending to be a utility worker.
There is actually a scene in Stargate SG-1 where RDA aka the best Jack O’Neill past present and future is timing an ambush and he flips his arm over and removes a Velcro flap and then checks the time and puts it back on. Nice to see that level of detail in the show and it’s something I learned about as a kid in aviation challenge (a subsidiary of space camp) as a preferred piece of pilots’ kit for SERE…and then never applied to my life.
Golden intros
"You're all stupid. They're gonna be looking for army guys." - Peter Griffin
Great video. Learned a lot. Please continue to provide additional vids. Thank you.
Awesome vid. Crazy how much the human silhouette sticks out even when heavily subdued
Lmao y’all teaching things now days that I literally had to go to recon school to learn….. man if I was only born later 😅
*The part about encrypted comms being harder to locate isn't quite accurate.*
The advantage that encryption gives you is simply protecting what's being "said," whether that's you actually talking through your radio, or sending text, location, etc data over it.
Digital radios can have some advantages in terms of detection, but this has nothing to do with their encryption capabilities. I.e. digital radio signals are easier to demodulate at low power compared to analog signals, meaning you can talk father with less power. Digital radios will also often come with built in packet data modes, meaning you can send short text messages rather than having to key up your radio for several seconds and talk (though this doesn't make much of a difference against an even somewhat advanced adversary). Most commercial radios are often far higher quality than their hobbyist analog counterparts, meaning less spurious emissions.
*The key to mitigating radiolocation is understanding how it works.* Your radio sends out waves, like a rock being dropped into a puddle. These waves can be picked up by other radios, and with a direction finding system, someone can see the angle of arrival (AOA) of your signal. But to pinpoint where you are, the person on the other end need at least 2 more stations just like that in order to triangulate an accurate location. These stations all need power, location information, a way to communicate with each other, and some C2 node to process the data.
Modern SIGINT and DF capabilities are crazy, but none break the laws of physics. And as tools become cheaper and more available, these are absolutely capabilities that you should have. A rifle is a lever. Technology, both hardware and software, is often an even bigger lever.
Yep.
I love seeing how far along these guys have come
Excited for this series guys keep up the awesome work
Detecting leakage from a receiver is going to be damn hard unless you’re physically right on top of it already. Practically speaking it’s transmitting that’ll get triangulated
All superheterodyne receivers have an internal Oscillator that produces a specific frequency that is "mixed with the received RF frequency to produce an "intermediate" frequency. That IF is then "processed" to extract the AM or FM Audio.. RF 'detector units are looking for thet IF signal because it identifies RECEIVERS, not transmitters.. It is technology almost as old as "radio" itself and its biggest users have been "governments" hunting for "unlicensed" radio and TV sets, that may not already be oficially "licnced"
The Germans got VERY good at this in occupied Europe in WW2, but, oddly enough, they never seem to have worked up into UHF / SHF. Not so today.
The battle between "measures" and "countermeasures rages unabated.
@@bruceinoz8002 damn I had no idea, that’s some good info I’ll have to go read up on this stuff. Is that intermediate frequency as easily detected as a transmission? Like if I have a 5w radio, am I pumping out 5w of IF just by listening?
I dressed like a clown when i served because the enemy is lookin for Army guys.
Peter?
@@possumpatrol45 Shut up Meg. Lol
What a bunch of idiots. They were looking for army guys.
My mind is blown with all the information and how visibly we are in everyday things
Loving the video so far, guys. The part about the tank had me shook
Will my rattle can paint pop under certain light spectrums? If yes, what types or brands are most effective?
Krylon camo series is pretty good under nods.
@@andrewwalters9763 Thank you. Subscribed now, BTW.
Great question. Krylon and Rustoleum Camo Matte are typically pretty good. But... we'll demonstrate on camera as this series goes on.
I don't know how big of a concern it is, but one thing I will say about phones: not all pockets are thermally insulated. If your adversary has modern thermals, your phone might not be the only thing giving you away, but it could certainly be a concentrated point of heat in your pocket. If the rest of your body is painstakingly kept at the temperature of the environment, say, because you're operating in freezing rain wearing an insulated full face covering, you may well find that your phone is heating up a section of your pocket enough to be a problem.
Super great video!! amazing information! Thanks for all you guys do!
great vid for us civvies. a lot of common sense, science and technologies. the signal and light thing seems to be the scariest. Thanks
"AHHHCHEEEEWWWW! EXCUSE ME!" 😂😅
@ 26:40 lol
Spring time will be hell on keeping quiet. Pollen will be our worst enemy.
Haha. Yeah, just suppress it and take the eye-bulge and ear-pop like a champ.
This is an awesome video . Very much appreciated. And I had never heard of venture surplus. Awesome place .Thanks again.
In the sweden military we are trained to use our enviornment as camoflage, for example using pine branches (more or less the only type of tree that grows here) to break up the outline of your head by sticking them through your helmet and as a makeshift guillesuit. If you do it correctly the enemy won't be able to see you past 5 meter/5.5 yards if you lay still
Watching this from a spiderhole with sks and stripper clips. Stay frosty
How did you get your iPhone to go red?
Also interested in knowing
Accessibility settings for iphone
@@MamacrackerJ found it thanks! Just set my action button for it for a quick on and off.
@@omizzy84also good for reducing that blue light and not messing with your circadian rhythm.