I wish the RV manufacturers would realize that in small campers, countertop space is more important than a large sink! There is no where to put a coffee maker in that setup. If the sink were half the size you would have a bit of appliance space. I would also like a 12V fridge option.
I use a percolator on the stove. Works fine, and simple if off grid. I'm going to get a bamboo cutting board for half the sink, and a roll up rack for the other side. That might solve your trouble. Also it might be worth looking at plugging coffee maker in in the outdoor kitchen
Love the bendy bed. Re: making each day, use a fitted sheet and leave it on, then two twin comforters rather than a big queen blanket. Easy to fold and put aside. Deal breaker is the absolute lack of count top. No need for a huge sink when it’s so difficult to make meals without counter space.
Great review! Really like that you keep the window accessible during the day with the Murphy bed put away, but having to make it every day would be a significant trade-off. Not sure which I’d prefer in the end… Agree with you on needing armrests on the jackknife sofa, adding drawers in the kitchen and a 12v fridge. Honestly, the last few items would be deal breakers for me.
We purchased the non Murphy option with the permanent bed. Didn't see that couch as being worth much, and the bed had a steep ledge that did not look comfy. Coming from a hybrid, I did not want to make beds.
Normally, I'd prefer the option of a 12v frig, but not with such limited solar capacity. In fact, although I think Nano's have improved over the last few years, shame on Coachman for labeling these "Off Grid" with no option for more than 100 watts of solar, no Showmiser, and no Invertor.
I read on one of the forest river forums that they did come with showemeisters. My catalog shows it in fact. But people were saying they stopped adding them because they were leaking in the wall and causing issues. I'd love one, but if that's true, I'm ok. The hot water line is short, so I can manage without wasting much
I think all campers should have 12volt and 2 way gas/electric fridge options for no change in price. If gas/electric, option 30lb propane tanks. We boondock on East coast, much shade, afraid 12v fridge option would result in wasted food/dead batteries 😳 Just spent 4 days without water,electric or bathrooms in S. Carolina with 20 gal fresh h2o & a 20 lb propane tank.
I really, really like this one! Great points I love: ✅️ FINALLY someone put windows with a campside kitchen. I love the visibility that offers!!!! ✅️ Love the Murphy bed setup and how you don't lose the windshield, it helps contribute to the open space. ✅️ Nice toilet space, they didn't over do it with the sink counter, so it doesn't take over in the bathroom. ✅️ No oven works for us, so this is a positive here. I like the microwave in that spot instead of having an oven I won't use an taking up valuable potential storage space to add a microwave on top of it all. ✅️ Nice flush mounted stove top and sink cover for making the most of limited counter space ✅️ EXCELLENT road mode. That's huge! ✅️ Good bunk weight rating (thank you for pointing that out), good bunk set up with seperate screens and outlets. ✅️ Maintained full pass through. Points of contention: ❌️ I want a 12v fridge option. ❌️ I noticed the stovetop does NOT vent outside. No Bueno! ❌️ Why on Earth would they put the cooker hooker so far away from the outdoor kitchen??!! I get the Coleman uses bottles, but come on, I want options there!! ❌️ Lack of expansion for solar options straight up kinda sucks. I mean it IS their "off grid" edition, you'd think we could have more opportunity to maximize on that option. Neutrals: ⚪️ No power jack isn't really a big deal, but it would have been nice. ⚪️ I would have loved to see a bit more coverage on the awning, but looking at the doors I completely understand why they didn't. ⚪️ TV location doesn't bother me, nor does not including a TV. Like you, when we camp, the goal is to be outside. But even the crappy days, we all have our our "personal entertainment devices," making a TV not really necessary. Wish list: ❇️ Would really love to see even a tiny window on the campside around the Murphy bed to both maximize campside visibility as well as maximize cross breeze for major sleeping area. ❇️ Would love to see even a sprayer port near the outdoor kitchen area for water access at the cooking location. Definitely not a biggie, but would be nice.
Actually, speaking from experience, that tongue jack is not meant to be on any trailer where weight distribution is used. I own a 194BHS. It came with the same jack. It lasted for about a dozen uses over three trips. Quite simply, that jack is made as cheap as possible. This includes the crank gearing, which has an enormous amount of play.
The solar ports on campers are not needed. They are just jumper wires. I have a renogy suitcase. Hook it to the battery posts, and you have a 200 watt setup. The renogy has its own controller, so good to go. May be an option for ya
@@codeman99-dev I'm gonna replace mine with .better crank jack. I will never own an electric jack again. Absolute junk, and nothing but a headache. Maybe go to one of the ones that you run up with a screw gun. I just like the simplicity and reliability if a hand crank.
@@billperry7159 careful, most of those screw gun style don't have a high enough rating. I bought a bulldog jack. Has an actual gear housing. Way stronger.
Really dig this thing. They 10000% missed with the no 12v option. Even boondocking they ain't using that much dang power. All About Rvs did a video showing where 2 way fridges actually consume more "fuel" the modern 12v.
We have an older 2021 model that had under mount split sinks. It works perfect when you set the coffee maker and toaster on one half. That is one area where the fashion won over the function on this update. The no drawers bothered me at first but now we just use baskets. Its easy to keep organized and re-stock supplies. You can just squeeze a 60in bunk ladder tight against the fridge open end of the bunk accesses and open the bathroom door at night as this is the first year we are using the top bunk for sleeping. I have a LOVE hate relationship with the murphy bed. LOVE, LOVE how it folds up and its still useable space. I use it as a day bed to read my books on a rainy day. When my kids where infants it was the play pen I lounged on the sofa and my babies where not on the cold floor. They are 2 and 5. I hate the transfer between the hard surface and the sofa, when in bed mode it is more or less the same area where the split in the mattress is. Our solution was a 2in memory foam under the mattress. Fold the bed like normal then tuck the foam topper into the gap between the bed and seat back. Over-all I love our little trailer it is a very good balance of size, storage and weight. We do tow it with a half-ton and as we live up in Calgary, Alberta Canada on the edge on the mountains, on windy days you wouldn't want to tow with anything less. One last comment if you are considering purchasing this trailer. Have a look at the Forest River owner's forum web page for the 208 model. It is an excellent source of honest owners reviews and modifications. My husband posts on it from time to time and the 208 has developed quite the cult following. Happy Camping Everyone!
What a great floor plan! One suggestion is to add a tall rear door to access the bunk storage area.that will make it so easy to load in bikes, kayaks, surfboards etc.
So, like an MKX-20 ? Agreed. The MKX (name changed on newer models) have a tilt-down ramp that's 54" wide, with clearance for 48" wide items/vehicles/etc. And the ramp will close after loading it up with 16' long lumber! About 4200 pounds dry on tandem axles, they aren't nearly as sexy looking as this Apex unit. But my choice for a "hybrid" (compromise) travel-trailer and enclosed cargo-trailer, without being just an open garage/cave like a typical toy hauler.
Great idea for a baby yard space on the Murphy, love this idea. Great unit Thanks for showing it, closed! They need to know we want coffee maker space.
You asked about the 12 volt fridge option. It would be nice to have the option, but I like my propane/110v fridge. The option I need is to swap out the microwave for a gas oven. My wife and I both like to cook and an oven is a necessity. No oven, no deal.
I like this camper. But the weight really makes me nervous. I know to some super light weight is a feature. But to me it really makes me think cheap and flimsy personally. I actually like this layout. I just wouldn’t ever buy anything like this only because I’d be scared of longevity. I have no science to beck my logic. Just how “ultra lightweight”makes me feel when I see that 😅😂🤷♂️. Not knocking it at all. Sharp camper. Just my 2 cents
12v refrigerator definitely and a stove top that is two burner placed vertical so it frees up counter space. Then this is a winner winner chicken dinner.
I agree though I can actually see myself finally buying this but feel the refrigerator option is dated as well as the interior cook top. Is the roof walkable? Sorry I didn’t catch that. Thanks as always for the info
Ok I understand you like Ember now but if tomorrow you had to go camping in a apex 208bhs or a Jayco 264bh what would you take out camping now that you have owned the Jayco. Smaller foot print towing but deal with a slide or the larger and less things to brake no slide option? All insight is helpful and thank you.
I love the floorplan that gives you multiple places to sit, but I’m not a fan of no armrests. A 12 volt fridge option for park camping would be nice, and I definitely prefer to have some drawers, a porcelain toilet, the larger fan located in the bathroom area and “an attached ladder” should be mandatory on every RV☹️
Yes actually! I'm sorry if I forgot to mention. The murphy you see here is optional Of course you could always just leave the murphy platform down and use it as a fixed bed with a replacement mattress too
Nice way to start the video, with the roll off the sofa. 😂 I really like this trailer. I’ve come to really appreciate the Apex Nanos for how much they put in trailers that size, and look good too. Love that the Murphy bed doesn’t block the window! Neat camp kitchen with that different grill/griddle. Two notes of contention, though minor. I’m with you that they should offer the 12 volt compression fridge as an option. And the solar should be expandable, even if it’s just with portable panels. But overall a really really nice trailer. 👍
My favorite kind of bed! Everything I want in a camper, this one. “Lightweight. That bed style. Bunks. Only thing that would make this better for me is lighter, shorter, and no slide.
Nice lightweight family unit Josh! Lacking in kitchen storage and perhaps needs a 3-way refrigerator option - 12v, AC, Propane... ultimate boondocking flexibility.
Love this trailer but my wife and I saw you fold that cheap looking mattress out and that just killed it for me. That bed set up would annoy me. Excellent looking unit tho. Love the windows and everything else
This type is way too small for me personally. But these types are great for young families starting out and don’t want to purchase a heavy vehicle to tow it. And without draws, people would need to use stackable baskets for silverware and cooking utensils.
We just purchased an APEX 213RDS and we also asked for a 12V fridge option. The 12V compressor fridge is now being offered in most RV units, so why APEX hasn't done that yet was disappointing. Although, you can always purchase the Dutch-Aire conversion kit for the Dometic model fridge you have and do it yourself. For the 6Cu Ft fridge, the kit was around $780 ther last time I looked. Thre compressor fridges are awesome because they're so efficient and cool down in a couple of hours instead of taking 12 to 14 hours like the absorption units.
like the Murphy bed idea and true queen size. I like the sofa buy would rather have a theater 🎥 seat 💺 there. I like tha large sink, I like the lower bunk lifts up for storage. I don't like the carpet in the dinette slide or the pedestal table. I don't like the tub as a single adult but mine also had a big tub which was so wonderful to have with my Littles. l like dual axles easy to chock the tires. and I love the mini camp kitchen. don't like the high outdoor speakers. it's a great little family 👨👩👧👦 camper.
This camper is right for someone 😊👍👍👍👍 but for me this one does not seem to have the bathroom leg room I need and kitchen I think k they could done better but if I Was going to buy a camper with a Murphy bed I really liked the fact that this one full/queen cable of using in road mode and mini outdoor is halfway decent!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍
What I want in a trailer. 5 or maybe 10 kWHr LFE batteries. A roof totally covered in solar panels and a 70Amp DCDC charge controller from the truck/car alternator. Minisplit heat pump, electric pump fridge, solar/heatpump waste heat water heater and induction cooktop and a microwave. Space for my $20 toaster oven and electric griddle. Lots of insulation, 4 season. No propane, no thanks. If it gets too cold I'll use an electric blanket and idle the car for an hour. No dumb window in the front please. Real thermal pane windows. No slides to break, double axels. I'm not interested in crashing because on tire on the trailer had a blow out in a single axel. No roof mounted AC, super loud an right next to your head. How dumb is that? No propane stove in a closet sized room, super bad for your health. Maybe an optional propane inverter generator where the engine heat is used as the furnace to heat the trailer. Yeah, I'm dreaming. I would have to start my own trailer company to get anything this intelligently designed.
The lack of counter space, expandable solar, and no option for 12v fridge hurts this model. I do like how they went with just the cooktop with a microwave under it, as opposed to having the useless tiny oven and sacrificing an overhead cabinet for a microwave. I also like how they used a bendy mattress that uses the sofa as a box spring (would be interesting to hear how comfy that arrangement is.) Not having the outside grill plumbed into the propane line is an....interesting decision. Not sure how I feel about that.
For me this is a complete miss. I am looking for a good couples camper, don't like the muphy style bed or the step up dining with the table style included. Give me a better shower, why do I need to step up so high? I know it has to step up but make it as low as possible. Loose the bunks.
Love the opening! What happen to the shades fading in? Should have done it while doing the Burt Reynolds pose on the folded bendy bed lol. And a good 12v tv with DVD combo is expensive! We ran an HDMI wire to the av jack area and put a 12v Blu ray player in the upper kitchen cabinet (in a surveyor 19bhle though the setup is similar). Tied it in to the stereo and now have full sound and video switching! Something to think about! PS: nice tears for fears reference!
Nice review, and very attractive camper, but the AC isn’t vented (which makes it loud), and the lack of a 12v refrigerator would keep this off my short list.
Really nice but a few "Achilles Heels" If they say " off grid model" then they need more solar and a bigger controller....Low microwave is a hassle for tall and older folks. Love the weight and the "Road Mode" accessibility.
You know if it’s just me then ok but I really would have thought that by now the linen industry would have come out with a fitted sheet that isn’t so hard to apply to the mattress. My parents have been struggling with theirs since my first camping trip in 1984. I’ve tried to show them how my wife and I work together… shift the mattress and grab the corner to hook the pocket but they insisted you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Every year at the reunion they go to bed early and everyone chuckles 🤭 fitted sheets again but I just wish for a solution to come to market.
I love it! The small kitchen is great (It stinks and adds extra moisture to cook inside) I always wondered why they fill up the living space with large kitchens, the bendy bed is a great feature because it free’s up the living space and the reduced width also opens up the saleability to other countries that don’t allow most current width Rv’s.
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV Mr. The RV Nerd, or any owners of this model - what are the actual dimensions of the storage space when folding up the bottom bunk? Looking for an RV exactly like this, but need a space for a large dog's crate. Wish manufacturers would supply those measurements.
It would be nice. But they don’t. And as a result I don’t have the answers for you. But we have people for that. Give our team a call or email and they can hand measure stuff up any time in return for the fair shake at working with you when you’re ready!
Hello Josh I was observing the video of 2022 Coachmen APEX nano 208bhs I am interested in buying I live in Miami nos can i contacto you? Is there any Dealer close to Miami?
I was pleasantly surprised by this trailer. I usually hate Murphy bed models, but the way they did this one is nice. I prefer the no armrests - I want to sleep there, and I’m not lounging in my trailer when I camp, so armrests just get in the way. I love the dual axles at this weight; I often worry about the stability of a trailer I could tow. I also was surprised by how accessible the bathroom is; we are fluffy people and feared the bathroom would be unusable, but that’s not the case. I couldn’t care less about the drawers. I have a drawer unit I take camping with me now. I like the little outdoor kitchen, and the separate propane hookup so I could use a black stone or just anything under the awning when it’s raining. The whole camper feels big and open. I wish it had a ladder and I’d like even more solar, always, but this unit is very appealing, and I saw no deal breakers.
Don’t know if there is a 2023 upgrade in this camper but the sofa is pretty disappointing. I’ve been watching hours of Murphy bed videos lol, and virtually all of them have better side- table areas, and some sort of arm rest as well. As the point of having the sofa option is usability, that’s a big miss.
I'm waiting for a community post of you in a hospital bed, can't believe you did that lol. I would like to get my hands on these, haven't sense 2017 would really like to how much better they are sense I was last in them. Only complaint would be the couch kinda like a odd bench not a couch but love the stove and oven situation. For what it is the price is alright . Simple with some flash👍👍
This is a great first time camper. Reminds us of our keystone hideout with no slide. The slide makes a huge difference. But reason we ended up selling was that Flagstaff just does so much to add cabinet spaces wherever possible. The 2509s Rockwood or 25brds Flagstaff is 26 feet and has so much space including outside storage. But this one actually is pretty good on storage.
❤️the stunts We were 🤣🤣🤣🤣so hard, almost fell out of our recliners. The dislikes; the hitch in my get along wouldn’t let me get into the shower, lacking counter space, not enough solar, but that’s why they have generators. Your right about the arm rest. 👍👍👍👍👍👍for you
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, Mike from Dirty Jobs, but someone has to do it. Josh, being a Josh the RV Nerd at Bish’s doing your own RV viewing videos Stunts is a HARD(ouch) job, but someone has to do it 😂. Josh did you get into Dad’s Medicine Cabinet, before videoing 😂😂
The 2022 apex nano 208 BHS has been nothing but a huge headache. Multiple issues…we bought one about 6 months ago and I cannot say anything good about it.
Josh I love the channel but your website has way to many "Call for Price" descriptions. Just let the consumer know the damn price. Nothing irritates me more than that.
I am not in control of that and don’t disagree Recent arrivals may not yet be priced. Anything on the lot for more than a few days should be priced but it’s up to the managers at each location to maintain that
Question, could you use 2 standard twin mattresses stacked on top of each other instead of folding queen? The standard twin mattress width is 38" so would that interfere with sofa back when up?
I'm sold, take my trade on the '21 Geo Pro 19BH and lets make a deal! In all seriousness I love this and if we saw one in person, we probably would seriously consider trading in for this. Seems like the max we could tow with our '21 Ford Ranger (7500lb tow capacity). Tows the 19BH easily so I know there is headroom The things I want/like over the 19BH -wide bunks -wife wants a murphy bed setup for bad weather days (Vegas area so either super hot or rain depending) -larger bathroom -slide is welcome for bad/tough weather -dual exhaust fans in the unit is welcome (but need Maxxair or similar upgrade) -travel stop friendly is nearly a must with twin 7yo boys -wife wanted an outside access fridge The cons/concerns -Need a shower miser, how easy of an install? -Some other reviews mentioned you can feel the transition from the hard bed surface to the soft sofa cushion, need to feel this -Moon roof, think the last show they had it on demo, I would REGRETT!!!! my purchase if a month or two later they offered that option -ideally want a 12v fridge since 99% of our camping is with power and water (national parks usually no sewer) -trailer exhaust fans would need upgrading -100w solar, would prefer the 190w panel like our 19BH and the side plug to use my 200w solar briefcase but not a total deal breaker Otherwise, I think this quite hits the nail on the head. Just wondering what the Geo Pro is going for on trade in....
I don't normally dislike everything about a unit but this one... Not a lot of positives for me. No countertop space to speak of. I am a leaner as well so that sofa gets a big thumbs down. Same for the pedestal table. I know they're trying to sleep a bunch in a small space but I don't think they designed this one very well. The outside isn't bad at all.
Traveling with the propane on is actually legal in most places. Now whether it is advisable or not is a big topic of debate between a lot of people and I never thought someone for being safe
With the different options available on r.v.s I have been sorting out what options I want vs what options I need. And trying to sort out how am I actually going to use the r.v. vs all the what if scenarios. For example it would be great to have 4 mo the of vacation a year but I actually only have 3 weeks, so I don't need to have be living in the r.v. only weekend and occasionally a week long camping trip. I go camping to be out side and not go glamping. Lol. I would prefer a regular mattress but a foldable Murphy bed is still way better then sleeping on the ground in a tent. I would rather have extra water capacity, over a t.v. and electric gizmos. I'm not the kind of person to shun technology, but camping to me is getting a break from technology and remembering the amazing beauty that nature has to offer. So this r.v. is on my comparison list
My wife and I have a 208 and we love it. We have 2 teenagers and a dog and have plenty of room. I tow with a Titan and get 12-14 mpg and you barely notice it’s there! It’s the perfect camper for long distance trips.
Your really do need to be careful. LOL You ARE the entertainment, Josh. Love love the outdoor kitchen. I love a lot of things in this RV. A few thing just hit me wrong. The windows look huge. The Murphy bed is weird. I would rather have the arm rests. It would be a hassle to make it every night but I love the openness. I keep thinking that it's wasted space. Why not make the couch a futon and have more space during the day. At night , just pull out the futon. You would still have to make it. But, you would have more space during the day, with the couch back further. Having the front window during the day would be wonderful. I look at RV's from a living in one full time vantage. Where are the drawers? Silverware? I can't believe there are none. I would rather have a smaller sink and more counter space. Yes, to a 12 frig option. The pantry is wonderful. The bunks need phone plugs. I wish the toilet was set back further. No step up to the shower. I like the colors. The light walls, the blue seats and curtains are wonderful. I like the fact that you can close it and still you it. WOW, for a RV I really liked there were some strange things I didn't like.
2 year old video. I’ve taken several brakes since But - I do tend to be fiery by nature. Self-driven that way. Helps keep me going but also causes me to burn out sometimes.
I love this layout but I can't wrap my head around the leafsprings. Even torsion axels are outdated. I'm trying to find something like this with independent suspension and disc brakes.
So, do they have an East/Wear edition? Like Cougar? We are unaware of the difference, and found a 22MLS closer to home and bought it~then we're really disappointed it didn't have the front windshield!
Wife and I are new to this and are planning for a purchase in the next five or so years, so we're looking at what we want, what we like and what we don't like. Regardless how this plays out, we both enjoy your videos and find ourselves just laughing along. Thank you for making this thing fun.
Love ya, Josh. Twice now I've seen you refer to Tears for Fears when using "spin you round like a record, baby." That is actually Dead or Alive 😁 Keep the hits coming. Enjoy your videos
If this had a convection microwave and a range hood over the stove and drawers in the place it presently occupies, I would consider it. I don't need the bunks, but it would make for more hanging storage and/or suitcase storage. I want a trailer to be my mobile hotel room. These 4 day car trips with stops at dog friendly hotels are NOT easy to set up.
@@JoshtheRVNerd we bought ours June 2021 and it is a 2021 model. I really liked the few changes from 2020 to 2021 models. It didn't look like anything really changed from 2021 to 2022 other than I think the solar package is standard now.
Love our 208BHS!! Light enough for our suv and plenty of room. The bendy bed was fixed with a nice mattress pad. Agree about the drawers but we have made do without them.
I’m thinking about swapping our dinette for comfy chairs if I can find a size that fits. We are able to close our slide with the bed out. It is close but it works.
@@JoshtheRVNerd no problem! Our kids are getting older and off to college in the next 4 years. I think a lot about how I could convert the 208 into a very nice couples camper. Maybe take out the top bunk and open that space up. That space could be a small office area if we remove both bunks. Definitely change out the dinette. Do you think replacing the dinette with some sort of reclining chairs will be too heavy for slide?
@@JoshtheRVNerd cre3000 equalizer, wet bolts, 4x100w mppt solar, 1000w pure sine inverter, gy endurance, two 6v gc2 batteries, welded a 2" receiver to the frame at the back, jack-it bike rack, dual 20lb lp, power tongue jack and added a second window at the top bunk (2019 models didn't have this).
We have this camper without the sofa, so a fixed bed. I think that is the perfect solution. We can sit in the dinette and lounge on the bed. We also get a huge storage space under the bed instead of the sofa.
Nice unit but no drawers is a deal breaker for me. That is one of my pit peeves is a unit without drawers.
Like Murphy beds or all bed no sitting but the or stupid bunks with no bathroom.
Its weird that the older model had 1 oull out drawer beneath the sink.
I wish the RV manufacturers would realize that in small campers, countertop space is more important than a large sink! There is no where to put a coffee maker in that setup. If the sink were half the size you would have a bit of appliance space. I would also like a 12V fridge option.
Instant coffee would fix that issue. Lol
I agree the counterspace is much more important.
Agree, if they gave you a split sink cover it would be better though.
I use a percolator on the stove. Works fine, and simple if off grid. I'm going to get a bamboo cutting board for half the sink, and a roll up rack for the other side. That might solve your trouble. Also it might be worth looking at plugging coffee maker in in the outdoor kitchen
I disagree honestly
Love the bendy bed. Re: making each day, use a fitted sheet and leave it on, then two twin comforters rather than a big queen blanket. Easy to fold and put aside. Deal breaker is the absolute lack of
count top. No need for a huge sink when it’s so difficult to make meals without counter space.
Put automotive style arm rest so they can flip out of the way in bed mode.
Agree with you. Couch with no armrests aren't comfy.
Too bad it doesn’t have drawers in the kitchen. Or arm rest on the sofa. Otherwise it is a very nice camper.
Great review! Really like that you keep the window accessible during the day with the Murphy bed put away, but having to make it every day would be a significant trade-off. Not sure which I’d prefer in the end… Agree with you on needing armrests on the jackknife sofa, adding drawers in the kitchen and a 12v fridge. Honestly, the last few items would be deal breakers for me.
That’s good to know. Hope the factory sees this
We purchased the non Murphy option with the permanent bed. Didn't see that couch as being worth much, and the bed had a steep ledge that did not look comfy. Coming from a hybrid, I did not want to make beds.
Normally, I'd prefer the option of a 12v frig, but not with such limited solar capacity. In fact, although I think Nano's have improved over the last few years, shame on Coachman for labeling these "Off Grid" with no option for more than 100 watts of solar, no Showmiser, and no Invertor.
I read on one of the forest river forums that they did come with showemeisters. My catalog shows it in fact. But people were saying they stopped adding them because they were leaking in the wall and causing issues. I'd love one, but if that's true, I'm ok. The hot water line is short, so I can manage without wasting much
News to me. Will ask around
I think all campers should have 12volt and 2 way gas/electric fridge options for no change in price. If gas/electric, option 30lb propane tanks. We boondock on East coast, much shade, afraid 12v fridge option would result in wasted food/dead batteries 😳 Just spent 4 days without water,electric or bathrooms in S. Carolina with 20 gal fresh h2o & a 20 lb propane tank.
Can uncle Josh get a thumbs up for performing his own stunts?!? Come on guys!
Thank you for putting the weight in the description it makes a big difference for me if I'm going to watch a video or not with my present tow vehicle.
I really, really like this one!
Great points I love:
✅️ FINALLY someone put windows with a campside kitchen. I love the visibility that offers!!!!
✅️ Love the Murphy bed setup and how you don't lose the windshield, it helps contribute to the open space.
✅️ Nice toilet space, they didn't over do it with the sink counter, so it doesn't take over in the bathroom.
✅️ No oven works for us, so this is a positive here. I like the microwave in that spot instead of having an oven I won't use an taking up valuable potential storage space to add a microwave on top of it all.
✅️ Nice flush mounted stove top and sink cover for making the most of limited counter space
✅️ EXCELLENT road mode. That's huge!
✅️ Good bunk weight rating (thank you for pointing that out), good bunk set up with seperate screens and outlets.
✅️ Maintained full pass through.
Points of contention:
❌️ I want a 12v fridge option.
❌️ I noticed the stovetop does NOT vent outside. No Bueno!
❌️ Why on Earth would they put the cooker hooker so far away from the outdoor kitchen??!! I get the Coleman uses bottles, but come on, I want options there!!
❌️ Lack of expansion for solar options straight up kinda sucks. I mean it IS their "off grid" edition, you'd think we could have more opportunity to maximize on that option.
Neutrals:
⚪️ No power jack isn't really a big deal, but it would have been nice.
⚪️ I would have loved to see a bit more coverage on the awning, but looking at the doors I completely understand why they didn't.
⚪️ TV location doesn't bother me, nor does not including a TV. Like you, when we camp, the goal is to be outside. But even the crappy days, we all have our our "personal entertainment devices," making a TV not really necessary.
Wish list:
❇️ Would really love to see even a tiny window on the campside around the Murphy bed to both maximize campside visibility as well as maximize cross breeze for major sleeping area.
❇️ Would love to see even a sprayer port near the outdoor kitchen area for water access at the cooking location. Definitely not a biggie, but would be nice.
Actually, speaking from experience, that tongue jack is not meant to be on any trailer where weight distribution is used.
I own a 194BHS. It came with the same jack. It lasted for about a dozen uses over three trips.
Quite simply, that jack is made as cheap as possible. This includes the crank gearing, which has an enormous amount of play.
The solar ports on campers are not needed. They are just jumper wires. I have a renogy suitcase. Hook it to the battery posts, and you have a 200 watt setup. The renogy has its own controller, so good to go. May be an option for ya
@@codeman99-dev I'm gonna replace mine with .better crank jack. I will never own an electric jack again. Absolute junk, and nothing but a headache. Maybe go to one of the ones that you run up with a screw gun. I just like the simplicity and reliability if a hand crank.
@@billperry7159 careful, most of those screw gun style don't have a high enough rating.
I bought a bulldog jack. Has an actual gear housing. Way stronger.
Holy crap. Your simple emoji game makes this MUCH nicer and easier to read. Can we start a movement to make this the standard?
Really dig this thing. They 10000% missed with the no 12v option. Even boondocking they ain't using that much dang power. All About Rvs did a video showing where 2 way fridges actually consume more "fuel" the modern 12v.
Not a "mofa"...a "Surphy" bed
We have an older 2021 model that had under mount split sinks. It works perfect when you set the coffee maker and toaster on one half. That is one area where the fashion won over the function on this update. The no drawers bothered me at first but now we just use baskets. Its easy to keep organized and re-stock supplies. You can just squeeze a 60in bunk ladder tight against the fridge open end of the bunk accesses and open the bathroom door at night as this is the first year we are using the top bunk for sleeping.
I have a LOVE hate relationship with the murphy bed. LOVE, LOVE how it folds up and its still useable space. I use it as a day bed to read my books on a rainy day. When my kids where infants it was the play pen I lounged on the sofa and my babies where not on the cold floor. They are 2 and 5. I hate the transfer between the hard surface and the sofa, when in bed mode it is more or less the same area where the split in the mattress is. Our solution was a 2in memory foam under the mattress. Fold the bed like normal then tuck the foam topper into the gap between the bed and seat back.
Over-all I love our little trailer it is a very good balance of size, storage and weight. We do tow it with a half-ton and as we live up in Calgary, Alberta Canada on the edge on the mountains, on windy days you wouldn't want to tow with anything less.
One last comment if you are considering purchasing this trailer. Have a look at the Forest River owner's forum web page for the 208 model. It is an excellent source of honest owners reviews and modifications. My husband posts on it from time to time and the 208 has developed quite the cult following.
Happy Camping Everyone!
Memory foam UNDER the mattress.. brilliant!!
What a great floor plan!
One suggestion is to add a tall rear door to access the bunk storage area.that will make it so easy to load in bikes, kayaks, surfboards etc.
Love those
That is exactly what is missing on this one. And a ladder!
So, like an MKX-20 ? Agreed.
The MKX (name changed on newer models) have a tilt-down ramp that's 54" wide, with clearance for 48" wide items/vehicles/etc. And the ramp will close after loading it up with 16' long lumber!
About 4200 pounds dry on tandem axles, they aren't nearly as sexy looking as this Apex unit. But my choice for a "hybrid" (compromise) travel-trailer and enclosed cargo-trailer, without being just an open garage/cave like a typical toy hauler.
Great idea for a baby yard space on the Murphy, love this idea. Great unit
Thanks for showing it, closed! They need to know we want coffee maker space.
Coffee for the baby. Got it
They should offer the 12 volt option for the fridge
You asked about the 12 volt fridge option. It would be nice to have the option, but I like my propane/110v fridge. The option I need is to swap out the microwave for a gas oven. My wife and I both like to cook and an oven is a necessity. No oven, no deal.
Ty Mike
I like this camper. But the weight really makes me nervous. I know to some super light weight is a feature. But to me it really makes me think cheap and flimsy personally.
I actually like this layout. I just wouldn’t ever buy anything like this only because I’d be scared of longevity. I have no science to beck my logic. Just how “ultra lightweight”makes me feel when I see that 😅😂🤷♂️. Not knocking it at all. Sharp camper. Just my 2 cents
Someone please check to see if our buddy needs a doctor! 😁😁
12v refrigerator definitely and a stove top that is two burner placed vertical so it frees up counter space. Then this is a winner winner chicken dinner.
I agree though I can actually see myself finally buying this but feel the refrigerator option is dated as well as the interior cook top. Is the roof walkable? Sorry I didn’t catch that. Thanks as always for the info
Yeah roof is walkable. No ladder though
Ok I understand you like Ember now but if tomorrow you had to go camping in a apex 208bhs or a Jayco 264bh what would you take out camping now that you have owned the Jayco. Smaller foot print towing but deal with a slide or the larger and less things to brake no slide option? All insight is helpful and thank you.
I love the floorplan that gives you multiple places to sit, but I’m not a fan of no armrests. A 12 volt fridge option for park camping would be nice, and I definitely prefer to have some drawers, a porcelain toilet, the larger fan located in the bathroom area and “an attached ladder” should be mandatory on every RV☹️
Complaining about counter space? We did most of our cooking outdoors weather permitting. Love this camper. Drink instant coffee. Lol
Or use a percolator. Your camping! I'd feel dirty using a Keurig camping. Lol
Sofa needs armrest and they should have a 12v fridge option. Nice camper. Thanks for sharing Josh👍👍
Hi Josh, can you make a review of the Apex Nano 186bh!!!? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You know what.. I think I have one here. Give me a few days and I WILL make that happen. Stay tuned!!
Can this be ordered with a traditional bed? I feel like I've seen them in previous years with that option. TIA!
Yes actually! I'm sorry if I forgot to mention. The murphy you see here is optional
Of course you could always just leave the murphy platform down and use it as a fixed bed with a replacement mattress too
I'd prefer arms on the sofa - - I like this one.
To give airflow when curtain pulled, it would be good to have 6 to 12 inches of netting on top of privacy curtains.
Genius
Nice way to start the video, with the roll off the sofa. 😂
I really like this trailer. I’ve come to really appreciate the Apex Nanos for how much they put in trailers that size, and look good too. Love that the Murphy bed doesn’t block the window! Neat camp kitchen with that different grill/griddle. Two notes of contention, though minor. I’m with you that they should offer the 12 volt compression fridge as an option. And the solar should be expandable, even if it’s just with portable panels. But overall a really really nice trailer. 👍
It’s a Big Bang for the buck brand
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yeah, it is, and good looking too. 👍 And not a traditional stick and tin, which is also another big plus in my book.
That’s gonna leave a bruise and require bengay
Spirit 2145rbx… let’s go
I've noticed I'm sore for a lot longer than I used to be lol
Love that intro music!! Your videos are always so cool!!
My favorite kind of bed! Everything I want in a camper, this one. “Lightweight. That bed style. Bunks.
Only thing that would make this better for me is lighter, shorter, and no slide.
Which apparently is the 186BH. I just looked that up and that’s super interesting to me.
I like that there isn't an entertainment center. I'm camping, I don't need it. But what do those stupid outdoor speakers hook up to?
Stereo
Nice lightweight family unit Josh! Lacking in kitchen storage and perhaps needs a 3-way refrigerator option - 12v, AC, Propane... ultimate boondocking flexibility.
I almost wonder if there isn't need at this point in the industry to make two versions of the same RV - one for park use and one for boondocking
Love this trailer but my wife and I saw you fold that cheap looking mattress out and that just killed it for me. That bed set up would annoy me. Excellent looking unit tho. Love the windows and everything else
I would prefer the couch was slightly higher with cube storage that could double as an ottoman
Love those cube ottomans!
I prefer gas/electric fridge personally. Just if you ever need to stay off hookups longer you can.
We love your vids. My 5yo can point out things in the vids along with u. We all enjoy and appreciate the extra thoughts u give.
Sounds like an amazing kid lol
This type is way too small for me personally. But these types are great for young families starting out and don’t want to purchase a heavy vehicle to tow it. And without draws, people would need to use stackable baskets for silverware and cooking utensils.
Yeah baskets and utensil organizers for sure
DC Outlet or 12 volt DC outlet.
Eh. Not a fan of this one all.
We just purchased an APEX 213RDS and we also asked for a 12V fridge option. The 12V compressor fridge is now being offered in most RV units, so why APEX hasn't done that yet was disappointing. Although, you can always purchase the Dutch-Aire conversion kit for the Dometic model fridge you have and do it yourself. For the 6Cu Ft fridge, the kit was around $780 ther last time I looked. Thre compressor fridges are awesome because they're so efficient and cool down in a couple of hours instead of taking 12 to 14 hours like the absorption units.
I feel like it’s something they will do in time
like the Murphy bed idea and true queen size. I like the sofa buy would rather have a theater 🎥 seat 💺 there. I like tha large sink, I like the lower bunk lifts up for storage. I don't like the carpet in the dinette slide or the pedestal table. I don't like the tub as a single adult but mine also had a big tub which was so wonderful to have with my Littles. l like dual axles easy to chock the tires. and I love the mini camp kitchen. don't like the high outdoor speakers. it's a great little family 👨👩👧👦 camper.
This camper is right for someone 😊👍👍👍👍 but for me this one does not seem to have the bathroom leg room I need and kitchen I think k they could done better but if I
Was going to buy a camper with a Murphy bed I really liked the fact that this one full/queen cable of using in road mode and mini outdoor is halfway decent!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍
My cats would like to lay there and look out the window
I’d lay there with them lol
A non-bunkhouse version might be ideal. Maybe a 208rbk or 213rds would be better.
Great stunt 😂
not intentional. landed HARD lol
Can anyone comment on the floor construction materials/layers/thickness of the Nano 208BHS?
What I want in a trailer. 5 or maybe 10 kWHr LFE batteries. A roof totally covered in solar panels and a 70Amp DCDC charge controller from the truck/car alternator. Minisplit heat pump, electric pump fridge, solar/heatpump waste heat water heater and induction cooktop and a microwave. Space for my $20 toaster oven and electric griddle. Lots of insulation, 4 season. No propane, no thanks. If it gets too cold I'll use an electric blanket and idle the car for an hour. No dumb window in the front please. Real thermal pane windows. No slides to break, double axels. I'm not interested in crashing because on tire on the trailer had a blow out in a single axel. No roof mounted AC, super loud an right next to your head. How dumb is that? No propane stove in a closet sized room, super bad for your health. Maybe an optional propane inverter generator where the engine heat is used as the furnace to heat the trailer. Yeah, I'm dreaming. I would have to start my own trailer company to get anything this intelligently designed.
The lack of counter space, expandable solar, and no option for 12v fridge hurts this model. I do like how they went with just the cooktop with a microwave under it, as opposed to having the useless tiny oven and sacrificing an overhead cabinet for a microwave. I also like how they used a bendy mattress that uses the sofa as a box spring (would be interesting to hear how comfy that arrangement is.) Not having the outside grill plumbed into the propane line is an....interesting decision. Not sure how I feel about that.
For me this is a complete miss. I am looking for a good couples camper, don't like the muphy style bed or the step up dining with the table style included. Give me a better shower, why do I need to step up so high? I know it has to step up but make it as low as possible. Loose the bunks.
Love the opening! What happen to the shades fading in? Should have done it while doing the Burt Reynolds pose on the folded bendy bed lol.
And a good 12v tv with DVD combo is expensive! We ran an HDMI wire to the av jack area and put a 12v Blu ray player in the upper kitchen cabinet (in a surveyor 19bhle though the setup is similar). Tied it in to the stereo and now have full sound and video switching! Something to think about!
PS: nice tears for fears reference!
it was probably dead or alive. I think in one of these videos I said tears for fears just seeing who's paying attention
Nice review, and very attractive camper, but the AC isn’t vented (which makes it loud), and the lack of a 12v refrigerator would keep this off my short list.
Fair enough
Really nice but a few "Achilles Heels" If they say " off grid model" then they need more solar and a bigger controller....Low microwave is a hassle for tall and older folks.
Love the weight and the "Road Mode" accessibility.
I don’t disagree on the solar for a longer trip
So tired of these bunkhouse models. Rip out those bunks and give me drawers, hanging rods,and extra room.
Just remember I always try to show a big variety of different things so I never boy… There’s gonna be another one roll through
You know if it’s just me then ok but
I really would have thought that by now the linen industry would have come out with a fitted sheet that isn’t so hard to apply to the mattress. My parents have been struggling with theirs since my first camping trip in 1984. I’ve tried to show them how my wife and I work together… shift the mattress and grab the corner to hook the pocket but they insisted you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Every year at the reunion they go to bed early and everyone chuckles 🤭 fitted sheets again but I just wish for a solution to come to market.
Be the one to do it! Patent something and retireance style
I love it! The small kitchen is great (It stinks and adds extra moisture to cook inside) I always wondered why they fill up the living space with large kitchens, the bendy bed is a great feature because it free’s up the living space and the reduced width also opens up the saleability to other countries that don’t allow most current width Rv’s.
Different RVs for different folks. We don’t cook inside much either but my mom could make some impressive meals in an rv
That sideways camp kitchen stove may be hard for taller people to deal with with the awning out.
It’s possible. I’ve never tried opening the slide and simulating using it but I see what you mean
That's nice! Easily towable behind my Suburban. Plenty of room and storage for just me. Though I prefer a 12 volt fridge, I could make this work
Would be my pick as well
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV Mr. The RV Nerd, or any owners of this model - what are the actual dimensions of the storage space when folding up the bottom bunk? Looking for an RV exactly like this, but need a space for a large dog's crate. Wish manufacturers would supply those measurements.
It would be nice. But they don’t. And as a result I don’t have the answers for you.
But we have people for that. Give our team a call or email and they can hand measure stuff up any time in return for the fair shake at working with you when you’re ready!
Hello Josh I was observing the video of 2022 Coachmen APEX nano 208bhs I am interested in buying I live in Miami nos can i contacto you? Is there any Dealer close to Miami?
I’m not in sales myself but our team at. 800-256-5196 can assist you.
Hey Josh, or any other viewers who have done it... Can my 2019 Ford Expedition Limited tow this? I’m thinking yes?
I’m not where I can check and towing Gabe, but chances are it will be able to. Definitely have that verified though but I think you’re in the clear.
I was pleasantly surprised by this trailer. I usually hate Murphy bed models, but the way they did this one is nice. I prefer the no armrests - I want to sleep there, and I’m not lounging in my trailer when I camp, so armrests just get in the way. I love the dual axles at this weight; I often worry about the stability of a trailer I could tow. I also was surprised by how accessible the bathroom is; we are fluffy people and feared the bathroom would be unusable, but that’s not the case. I couldn’t care less about the drawers. I have a drawer unit I take camping with me now. I like the little outdoor kitchen, and the separate propane hookup so I could use a black stone or just anything under the awning when it’s raining. The whole camper feels big and open. I wish it had a ladder and I’d like even more solar, always, but this unit is very appealing, and I saw no deal breakers.
Nice!! That’s what I like to hear!!
Don’t know if there is a 2023 upgrade in this camper but the sofa is pretty disappointing. I’ve been watching hours of Murphy bed videos lol, and virtually all of them have better side- table areas, and some sort of arm rest as well. As the point of having the sofa option is usability, that’s a big miss.
I haven’t seen the 23 updates yet but I will definitely be getting some footage of them
I'm waiting for a community post of you in a hospital bed, can't believe you did that lol. I would like to get my hands on these, haven't sense 2017 would really like to how much better they are sense I was last in them. Only complaint would be the couch kinda like a odd bench not a couch but love the stove and oven situation. For what it is the price is alright . Simple with some flash👍👍
Well I didn’t do it on purpose man
This is a great first time camper. Reminds us of our keystone hideout with no slide. The slide makes a huge difference. But reason we ended up selling was that Flagstaff just does so much to add cabinet spaces wherever possible. The 2509s Rockwood or 25brds Flagstaff is 26 feet and has so much space including outside storage. But this one actually is pretty good on storage.
2509 couldn't travel with the bed down and it was much less traveled friendly. That was the deal breaker for us
❤️the stunts We were 🤣🤣🤣🤣so hard, almost fell out of our recliners. The dislikes; the hitch in my get along wouldn’t let me get into the shower, lacking counter space, not enough solar, but that’s why they have generators. Your right about the arm rest. 👍👍👍👍👍👍for you
No one else was hard? The floor
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, Mike from Dirty Jobs, but someone has to do it. Josh, being a Josh the RV Nerd at Bish’s doing your own RV viewing videos Stunts is a HARD(ouch) job, but someone has to do it 😂. Josh did you get into Dad’s Medicine Cabinet, before videoing 😂😂
The 2022 apex nano 208 BHS has been nothing but a huge headache.
Multiple issues…we bought one about 6 months ago and I cannot say anything good about it.
Man I'm sorry to hear that John. Normally I see folks loving this one. I hope you're able to get everything resolved and enjoy the season with her
Josh I love the channel but your website has way to many "Call for Price" descriptions. Just let the consumer know the damn price. Nothing irritates me more than that.
I am not in control of that and don’t disagree
Recent arrivals may not yet be priced. Anything on the lot for more than a few days should be priced but it’s up to the managers at each location to maintain that
Question, could you use 2 standard twin mattresses stacked on top of each other instead of folding queen? The standard twin mattress width is 38" so would that interfere with sofa back when up?
Possibly. Hard to say when I’ve never been able to try it
I'm sold, take my trade on the '21 Geo Pro 19BH and lets make a deal! In all seriousness I love this and if we saw one in person, we probably would seriously consider trading in for this. Seems like the max we could tow with our '21 Ford Ranger (7500lb tow capacity). Tows the 19BH easily so I know there is headroom
The things I want/like over the 19BH
-wide bunks
-wife wants a murphy bed setup for bad weather days (Vegas area so either super hot or rain depending)
-larger bathroom
-slide is welcome for bad/tough weather
-dual exhaust fans in the unit is welcome (but need Maxxair or similar upgrade)
-travel stop friendly is nearly a must with twin 7yo boys
-wife wanted an outside access fridge
The cons/concerns
-Need a shower miser, how easy of an install?
-Some other reviews mentioned you can feel the transition from the hard bed surface to the soft sofa cushion, need to feel this
-Moon roof, think the last show they had it on demo, I would REGRETT!!!! my purchase if a month or two later they offered that option
-ideally want a 12v fridge since 99% of our camping is with power and water (national parks usually no sewer)
-trailer exhaust fans would need upgrading
-100w solar, would prefer the 190w panel like our 19BH and the side plug to use my 200w solar briefcase but not a total deal breaker
Otherwise, I think this quite hits the nail on the head. Just wondering what the Geo Pro is going for on trade in....
I'm not sure how easy/hard a showermiser is to install after the fact. Nano models were including it but I believe it became a supplier-related issue.
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks, gonna keep my eye on this trailer no doubt.
I don't normally dislike everything about a unit but this one...
Not a lot of positives for me.
No countertop space to speak of.
I am a leaner as well so that sofa gets a big thumbs down. Same for the pedestal table.
I know they're trying to sleep a bunch in a small space but I don't think they designed this one very well.
The outside isn't bad at all.
Well.. you didn’t dislike EVERYTHING lol
Thx for another visit :)
No 12v option deal breaker very little boondocking. Also can't travel with open propane. Not able to travel with groceries.
Traveling with the propane on is actually legal in most places. Now whether it is advisable or not is a big topic of debate between a lot of people and I never thought someone for being safe
Great overview! How wide is the entry door? And how wide is the storage area when the bottom bunk folds up?
Apologies I don’t have spec charts for those. Local folks could measure them up for you at www.bishs.com/contact-us
With the different options available on r.v.s I have been sorting out what options I want vs what options I need. And trying to sort out how am I actually going to use the r.v. vs all the what if scenarios. For example it would be great to have 4 mo the of vacation a year but I actually only have 3 weeks, so I don't need to have be living in the r.v. only weekend and occasionally a week long camping trip. I go camping to be out side and not go glamping. Lol. I would prefer a regular mattress but a foldable Murphy bed is still way better then sleeping on the ground in a tent. I would rather have extra water capacity, over a t.v. and electric gizmos. I'm not the kind of person to shun technology, but camping to me is getting a break from technology and remembering the amazing beauty that nature has to offer. So this r.v. is on my comparison list
Impressed! Most folks aren’t able to see them thru a lens of common sense like that!!
They have a non Murphy option with a walk-around queen. That's what we went with
Doing your own stunts again? Neat camper but I am not a Murphy Bed fan. I am lazy - I want a couch that's a couch and bed that's a bed.
Always
I am pretty banged up lately lol
Great video. Now head back outside and use the camp kitchen and demonstrate how to cook pancakes and sausage. Don’t forget the orange juice
I removed the Colman and hooked up my Blackstone. Fits perfect. Did add a foldable leg to the kitchen to support it
My wife and I have a 208 and we love it. We have 2 teenagers and a dog and have plenty of room. I tow with a Titan and get 12-14 mpg and you barely notice it’s there! It’s the perfect camper for long distance trips.
DOG?! Tell me more…
The dog is a 45 pound cattle dog and she sleeps on the floor sometimes under the lower bunk! We would recommend this camper to anyone!
Wonder if the fresh water tank sits between the axles? That would balance it fully loaded.
Not sure on the location
14:00 lil bit of a question, why is the toilet in the middle of the room instead of against the wall? LOL
Uncle Gary needs the space to settle in
I like it. Been busy - we had our baby boy this week. Back to looking at trailers.
Omgosh CONGRATULATIONS
Thanks buddy. I’m 42 (wife not too far behind) and he was an accident - but he came out perfect.
Can this be pulled by a Subaru Ascent? TiA. 👍👍👍
no，wet weight exceed，me too with same case as u
Your really do need to be careful. LOL You ARE the entertainment, Josh.
Love love the outdoor kitchen.
I love a lot of things in this RV. A few thing just hit me wrong.
The windows look huge.
The Murphy bed is weird. I would rather have the arm rests. It would be a hassle to make it every night but I love the openness. I keep thinking that it's wasted space. Why not make the couch a futon and have more space during the day. At night , just pull out the futon. You would still have to make it. But, you would have more space during the day, with the couch back further.
Having the front window during the day would be wonderful.
I look at RV's from a living in one full time vantage.
Where are the drawers? Silverware? I can't believe there are none.
I would rather have a smaller sink and more counter space.
Yes, to a 12 frig option.
The pantry is wonderful.
The bunks need phone plugs.
I wish the toilet was set back further. No step up to the shower.
I like the colors. The light walls, the blue seats and curtains are wonderful.
I like the fact that you can close it and still you it.
WOW, for a RV I really liked there were some strange things I didn't like.
Dude. You need a vacation. The anger driving you is apparent.
2 year old video. I’ve taken several brakes since
But - I do tend to be fiery by nature. Self-driven that way. Helps keep me going but also causes me to burn out sometimes.
I love this layout but I can't wrap my head around the leafsprings. Even torsion axels are outdated. I'm trying to find something like this with independent suspension and disc brakes.
So, do they have an East/Wear edition? Like Cougar? We are unaware of the difference, and found a 22MLS closer to home and bought it~then we're really disappointed it didn't have the front windshield!
Wife and I are new to this and are planning for a purchase in the next five or so years, so we're looking at what we want, what we like and what we don't like. Regardless how this plays out, we both enjoy your videos and find ourselves just laughing along. Thank you for making this thing fun.
Hey, Uncle Josh! Can a Tacoma handle this Camper?
With tow pkg yes though it’s the max of what you might handle. In windy areas it may be troublesome
Love ya, Josh. Twice now I've seen you refer to Tears for Fears when using "spin you round like a record, baby." That is actually Dead or Alive 😁 Keep the hits coming. Enjoy your videos
Does the shelf carpeted area on the right if cut open lead to the storage area?
Next to the bed? Yes
I would like to see a slide topper and calling it off grid and not having expandable solar doesn't make much sense to me I'm not an expert just saying
What's the ground clearance with this model?
Apologies the mfg doesn’t provide that spec but our local teams could check for you
If this had a convection microwave and a range hood over the stove and drawers in the place it presently occupies, I would consider it. I don't need the bunks, but it would make for more hanging storage and/or suitcase storage. I want a trailer to be my mobile hotel room. These 4 day car trips with stops at dog friendly hotels are NOT easy to set up.
Love my 208
How long have you had one?
@@JoshtheRVNerd we bought ours June 2021 and it is a 2021 model. I really liked the few changes from 2020 to 2021 models. It didn't look like anything really changed from 2021 to 2022 other than I think the solar package is standard now.
Love our 208BHS!! Light enough for our suv and plenty of room. The bendy bed was fixed with a nice mattress pad. Agree about the drawers but we have made do without them.
I’m thinking about swapping our dinette for comfy chairs if I can find a size that fits. We are able to close our slide with the bed out. It is close but it works.
We do use the bed when folded to relax on and our dogs like it quite a bit when we are gone.
Thx for all this Dan
@@JoshtheRVNerd no problem! Our kids are getting older and off to college in the next 4 years. I think a lot about how I could convert the 208 into a very nice couples camper. Maybe take out the top bunk and open that space up. That space could be a small office area if we remove both bunks. Definitely change out the dinette. Do you think replacing the dinette with some sort of reclining chairs will be too heavy for slide?
We have this model. A few mods and it's literally the perfect camper 👌 such a great camper to travel.
What did you mod on it??
@@JoshtheRVNerd cre3000 equalizer, wet bolts, 4x100w mppt solar, 1000w pure sine inverter, gy endurance, two 6v gc2 batteries, welded a 2" receiver to the frame at the back, jack-it bike rack, dual 20lb lp, power tongue jack and added a second window at the top bunk (2019 models didn't have this).
@@Weak_juan nice!!
We have this camper without the sofa, so a fixed bed. I think that is the perfect solution. We can sit in the dinette and lounge on the bed. We also get a huge storage space under the bed instead of the sofa.
Josh can you review a 240BHXL?
Man I want to if they ever start building more Xlites
Bro, love your energy, love the coachmen apex
Appreciate that!