Same feeling! I like how Josh is is honest, he knows his stuff and can point out things that may be easily overlooked. I like his fair reviews! Plus, he is just so silly and fun!
Totally appreciate the ‘slide-closed access’ feature of your videos! Being unable to access bed or bathroom with the slide closed is an absolute deal breaker for us, so thanks for including that info! Re: the sofa- definitely jackknife, easy to make into a bed type for us 👍🏻
Someone who goes RVing was involved in this design. Those night lights were brilliant. We do like the pet friendly aspects of this floor plan. The mini laundry basket is pretty cool. Thanks for showing the road mode stop. This is a pretty cool model.
They have some really great and unique ideas in this layout. Love the dog friendly parts, love the layout under the bed. Would prefer theatre seating though. Since it is so small and basically a couples unit, they could gain some extra space for the kitchen/bath by totally eliminating the banquette and instead putting a table against the wall/window with two nice chairs there. Then if you have company visit, you could turn those chairs to face the other seating for a nice visit.
I really like this Floorplan for a couples weekend getaway. I would however prefer to see a theater seat in that space. The underbed storage is awesome, I like what they did there. I especially like the "hidden fishing pole" Storage in the pass thru lol. Only drawbacks for me is lack of storage in the kitchen and the not so fluffy friendly space around the toilet, But over-all a very nice camper for sure
OK so if you remember me from numerous previous comments, I'm not a fan of slide outs. I feel the more moving parts not to mention the seals the more the chance of issues. Now there adding appliances to them that really scares me. Propane lines to refrigerator and stove??? I do love this layout all the down sides i can live with. Bathroom is tight but I'm not spending lots of time there. Tall side walls and vaulted ceiling ++++ as well as asdell . You may not like this!!!! but you need to have Bishs web developer create a search page that allows customers to select options easily. I know some may think im crazy but id love to be able to pick size ( maybe based on tow vehicle and yes i know that varies from one 1/2 ton to another but possibly 1/2 ton towable or large SUV ETC ), build materials, ( Wood, aluminum, with or without asdell, solar ready or equipped, Bunk house or no bunks, slides etc. To sum it up Id love to be able to build my camper and see what manufactures have what i want kind of close then have a page listing them to look at. For the lack of better terms I'm loosing my mind trying to find something without being able to compare them without doing several searches. I have watched sooooo many of your videos that when i find what I want I'm driving up there from South East Missouri to but it just to make sure your time spent doing all these videos is appreciated.
Something to keep in mind: Appliances in slide is standard practice in fifth wheels. Has been for years. It's really nothing new. Sometimes it seems to spook folks in travel trailers But there's nothing wrong with no-slides as well. i try to showcase plenty of them where possible
Im pretty critical of RV's, Travel trailers etc. I must say this thing couldn't be better thought out. This would be a perfect alternative to a tiny home as long as it was 4 seasons capable.
Love your videos! Keeps me rethinking and rethinking what I need and what I want and what I don't want. Maybe you could do "Top 5 (fill in the blank)" videos? Top 5 Half Ton. Top 5 Couple. Top 5 Family Friendly, etc.
This is very nice although I would like to see a free floating table instead of the tubes. The under bed storage is really awesome. This is one id like to see in person.
As they evolve I'm sure they will. They hear people loud and clear. But most of their models currently have slide dead above a wheel well.. can't floor-flush a theater seat THRU a wheel well. But they're working on solutions
Always liked this floorplan mainly because of that rear kitchen and especially the windows in this design. Still haven't made up my mind on the flip up bed storage. I like the drawers that come out on either side better but as you've said the struts make it easy lifting. Love the roadmode functionality of this design as well. As to who did it best...🤷🏻♀️
Nice camper...except gray tank too small, pricey, need deeper slide. Like the double azdel & storage under the bed. Love the rear kitchen...the bathroom is ok next to the kitchen. Thx Josh as always 🐾😎
Just an idea, how about video of all the makers that make the same floor plan in one video. For instance grand design, coachman, etc. all RV builders build this floor plan, so show a video of all the name brand videos. Thanks. Love your videos!👍
I've done a few brand battles like that but the problem is these things aren't parked at one location. I would really like to do EXACTLY what you've described though. Love this idea and TY for it
Great competition for the Cougar 22MLS, and the Imagine 22MLE. The light colors make it feel roomy. I have my phone with me constantly, so the best charger spots for me would be next to the sofa, and beside the bed.
I just bought a used (and well-stored) Imagine 22MLE, based in no small part on your review from several months ago. I did look at the Northern Spirit, and really wanted that vaulted under-bed storage...but the deal on the 22MLE was just too good.
Wow congratulations! I hope it treats you well! Would you mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review since my work here was helpful to you? It'll cost you nothing and I'd sure appreciate it!~
Theatre seats all the way for a couple's camper. Agreed - Bad spot for phone charger and table USB/power outlets. Sink cover storage - great! I'd probably add some kind of backsplash behind the stove. Good fridge. Night light in bathroom is nice.
👏👏👏👏well done. Must have recliners, sometimes can’t stay in bed past 3am because of back pain. You talk about pets; we’re not pet haters, but don’t live with them, other than each other, but that’s different. Josh you should be careful about backing up in a RV, those fire extinguishers will trip you then you’ll be saying nothings broke; except my arm😆😆. The short falls on this one, a handyman or handy woman can fix. Keep’m coming bloopers & all
Your microwave/soup/bowl speech is exactly why I keep saying more counter space please! Thank you. Netted space has to go, needs a door and again why no splash guard at the stove? But I'm loving this layout and that underbed storage is totally amazing. I know this is 10 months ago but still hope we see more like this. I like the graphics, lateral design, the diagonals more common are kinda distracting?
This is a nice lookin Travel Trailer but I think that bed protrudes in that 3ntry a little too much, though I thought this one had a halfway decent bathroom and I love that style of rear kitchen's though Cougar 22MLS is still my most favorite one😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Don't like the plastic bathroom sink or the true door, takes up too much space imo. I would prefer theater seats, unless I was planning on camping with a kid.... Fold out sofa better then breaking down the table to bed every night! And bummer there's no breeze window in the slide. But I LOVE that bed lift. Cougar gets my vote!
after loaded, probably 6500 or more.. def would have to be careful towing with a half ton.. I know, I did it. Just upgraded to a F350, better to have too much truck
I'd go with the Cougar. #1 reason is the freestanding dinette option. #2 is Transcend 240ML. Having the door split the booth and pantry is very smart. This is #3, I love the underbed.
I love pretty much everything about this trailer except for the lack of a ladder. Start including a ladder and I'm buying this one. If only Freedom Express had this floor plan in this size.
Cool new hat. The dinette is kind of a waste of space, I'd turn that in to a full time dog bed. I do like the door side window though, it's bigger than the mail slot windows that a lot of manufacturers put in if the kitchen is on that wall. I really like the storage arrangement under the bed. I really wish they'd flip the spots for the kitchen and the bathroom keeping the layouts the same.
That toilet room is just not enough. I can use an outside shower if I had to for a quick clean up. The toilet isn't that easy to switch to. That may only be my take, but give me a few inches.
My top three.... - The kitchen area is choice! 👍 - The motion sensor night lights brilliant! (pun intended 😝) - The storage area underneath the bed is VERY neat looking. However, NOT so hip on the two cabinet doors underneath the sink... I was like: "Ahh... What happened there???? 😳 Much appreciated Uncle Josh! 👍❤️
Ok Josh this seems like the first one close to the Grand Design mke. And a nice second opinion. Almost but still longer. Question here why do they make the front door glass not see thru? And no side pockets by the bed?
Every brand has a little different way about the entry doors. Some do NO window. Some have the frosty glass for light + privacy. Some have a full window with no shade/privacy. Some do the full window with a shade BUT you cannot adjust the shade without opening the door and screen door Each has benefits over the other. Each brand targets what they think works best
Josh, I forgot to mention the layout under the bed is incredible. Also, the lack of storage below is supplemented in transit by underbed storage. No need to leave some things home. When camping the dog loves it under the bed.
theatre seats for me personally would be better most of the time, however this couch is perfectly acceptable.... it would not make an important enough difference to order or ship in the other version, i would take the one with couch as it is, still has the foot rests which is main concern of theatre seats, i never been one to actually recline in a recliner very often... but i am likely to lay across the couch while watching tv...so maybe this would be better for this one over theatre seats
Thanks Josh! Nice trailer. The seats/dog bed is nice but I'd like to see 2 swivel/rocking/ recliners there. Great travel mode and love the under bed versatility! And really love that rod holder! Now if it just had a generator and a little more fresh water......
Love this take on this floorplan! A big fifth wheel that I enjoy has its place for full timing. At the same time I can see this rig working for my parents as they tend to use the camper as a "home base" of sorts for kitchen/bath/rainy day use while most everyone else in the family tent camps.
The day we came up there, they had just gotten one of these things in. The dealbreaker for us was the bathroom, which felt like a broom closet. The kitchen is gorgeous though!! We ended up getting the Alpha Wolf 22SW-L instead.
I saw coachmen at a local RV show near me. To say I was not impressed with the quality would be an understatement. This thing felt like it would literally rattle apart going down the highway. It's a brand that I could never buy since it was so poorly built.
Like this a lot. Love the corner kitchen & microwave placement. Love lthe light wood floors & overall brightness, pet friendly, big shower etc. While package has a lot of appeal. Do they offer an upgraded solar package? Also do any trailers/ rvs offer on demand water heaters either gas OR electric. Industry is way overdue for a total elec package what with a lot of the energy efficiencies reached over the last two decades.
I agree, move the control/ monitor face over, create a couple narrow shelves with 1 USB/12V plug (they come in a pair with two USB slots under a cap and 1 12V plug under a cap) per shelf. Great place for a charging station, and it still leaves (actually expands the top shelf) shelf and upper portion of the cabinet for other storage.
I like this rv. I really like how pet friendly it is. I think there are a couple of different options in this one for a litter box. Which is great for those of us who travel with our cats! (by the way...my cat watches your videos with me...he hears your voice and he jumps up and sits on the side of me to watch. 🐱lol) And love the storage area underneath the bed. I like the fact that it has solid steps, a bigger shower for us fluffy people and a bigger tv. Also gives you an option for different couches. That is a plus. I will keep saying it...I don't like exposed docking station! And no ladder! No bueno! I think if this and the Imagine one had a baby....that would be perfect!!!! Thanks for the video!
I love the way they have done the under bed storage. I think it would be improved if they mirrored the drawers and clothes basket niche for a his and hers setup. The space in the middle also looks like it could handle a small ottoman or two that could be used for extra seating when the grandkids come along. I also like the sensor lights near the floor for getting up in the middle of the night. If they aren't able to be turned off I would add my own switch as it looks like there is easy access to the wiring and plenty of places nearby to mount a switch.
Love these videos! We are researching getting a travel trailer and your videos are my favorite! I’d go for the theater seats since you already have a dinette. Definitely think the tv swing arm could use some work and I agree there should be a slide door for the bathroom. I’m always looking for these small travel trailers that fit a taller person as my husband is 6’5!
There are many things I like about this one especially the under bed storage layout but….not a fan of having the bathroom that close to the kitchen. The real deal breaker for me is the 33 gallon gray tank. You can always add water to the fresh but once the gray is full you’re done.
I really like this floor plan. Those little floor lights are great. I like the sofa that is shown. Tv placement is good. If I was redesigning it, I’d open the back of that first dinette seat near the door and add a shoe tray to set my shoes inside. I like the under bed storage. 5 stars for that. Not having a kitchen trash can storage is unfortunate but since the bathroom is right there, putting the trash can in front of the door will work. It can be stashed in the shower when not in use. I like the long rod or rifle storage that is separate from the main storage. All in all, it ticks a lot of boxes for me.
For not much more money and a bit more weight I think I'll probably go for the Rockwood 2506S. Twice the grey tank size and an actual separate bedroom so I can watch TV while my wife goes off to bed. Tho, I really do like the little things like those motion activated night lights but I could always add them. Now just need to sell my 2018 Coachmen 23TQX hybrid now that my kids don't want to camp with us anymore!
Love the interior height!! Interesting that it appears that the bed blocks the door. I understand the bed lifts, but it's not really a Murphy bed. Seems awkward. I would like drawers or bins under the dinette. I think the pet dishes are cute, but for one that doesn't have a pet, this seems like a total waste. I would rather have the storage like the other side. Agreed on plug height underneath. I like the wraparound kitchen, with some disclaimers. I would say though, the kitchen drawers would work better on the right. Shift the sink left. The drawers interfere with the bathroom door. (You could do deeper drawers too on the right.) Another cabinet door over the stove would make more sense than the netting. I love the storage in the bathroom, but I would need elbow room. This doesn't work for me. (Rough start Josh. Too funny.) (I have said way too much. LOL)
I really like the overall floor plan. The problem is the bathroom. The toilet has to have room to be usable. I am 6' 2" and a big guy. If you can't chicken wing around the toilet it is too small. I love the rest. The one thing I didn't hear about is the warranty. Is it junk and I am better off with a used option? I want as much as possible fof boondocking. I love the rosd mode and the height.
Josh: If wife and I were inclined to get a slideout trailer (we’re not), this might be a contender with the Grand Design Imagine XLS 22MLE. She hits ALL the key parameters like the XLS 22MLE except one; she’s too high to fit thru the barn door. She’s got dual axel, aluminum frame and fiberglass body, and with the fixed dinette, it’s fully usable in road mode. Shortcomings are the inward facing drawers under the bed. Really like the fact that you showed how to pull the top kitchen drawer out an lock the murder hobo in the head until the police come. Where’s Coachmen’s signature UUUUU-tensil drawer under the sink? Is she backup/monitor camera ready? She looks like it. Respectfully, W.S.
This is another camper on my possible purchase list. I love all of extra room around the bed, wish the end of the bed wasn’t so close to the door. I would keep the sofa, and they need to move the charging station. What type of free floating legs do you recommend for the dinette table? I agree the the outlets in the dinette area should be higher. I like where they put the microwave. The windows by the sink are nice, 12v refrigerator is the way to go. I love all of the storage space, both inside and outside. Especially the lightsaber storage, how deep is that cabinet? Thank you for everything you show and tell us in your videos. This one and the Cougar 22MLS are tied for first. If only I could take what I like from each one to create the perfect camper for my retirement.
Theater seating all the way. Unless you have midget friends(can i say that) or tiny children, nobody is going to sleep on that sofa-bed and if they do...they won't sleep on it another night. Maybe that's the idea? Knee knocker dinette? Come on man! So many better options. I think I would leave the bed up unless it is bed time as it appears to impede your ingress and egress space. Or is it entrance and exit space? In the words of Matt, " That's a $104 laundry basket". The kitchen is minimal at best. There's virtually no cabinet space the way it's broken up. That's fine for a weekend but not so good for longer stays. My wife likes to sleep with the TV on so that placement is rough. I really prefer a little more room around the toilet. And "That's a $104 trash can". "No ladder" just comes off as being chintzy. It saves them money and I'm pretty sure they aren't passing those savings along. I climb on the roof several times a month to make sure things are good and carrying an extension ladder on a camping trip is silly Ventless floor is great for me because we don't do much cold camping and our furnace is rarely used. Tall ceilings in this one are nice. The bed area is not bad. How much does a tankless water heater add to the cost of an RV? I just think that makes so much more sense in today's world than the old fashioned propane things that I had in my 1970s model.
I'm not sure on the cost of tankless or what the comparative cost may be. I just don't see parts sheets regularly to have a good feel for that. We could get a quote for a client of course.
Actually... I think they do still build it. It's just called "Open Range 376FBH" -- the "Roamer" name was dropped and then repurposed. I simply haven't had any in stock wherever I've gone to record. It looks like we have two locations in Montana that carry highland ridge though they're stock looks to be pretty painfully limited currently with only 2 of their fifth wheels on hand nationwide So it's not impossible that I'll get some updated footage sometime
Your take on the various options of this niche, 22', with great features have me really thinking that this could be the one! I am 6'4" and the tall ceiling is brilliant, combined with great decent interior storage. Outside is a compromise, but then, the ability with a shorter RV than J imagined, to reserve space in more campgrounds that limit length make this glorious in its own right. Then there is the pending 22' Ember. Hmmmm... if it is tall enough.... Big note to me about chosing between refrigerators. I want space, but finally rented an RV and was so shocked at how efficient the propane cooling mode was. I WOULD LOVE A MODEL THAT WOULD FIT ONE 12V and ONE TWO-WAY! I have to be weird!!! I am a mechanical engineer and have ideas!
Yeah that's why 2-way fridges are still so popular in boondock-focused areas. On propane they use nearly zero battery power. JUST enough to keep the circuit board running in the fridge
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yep. I like as much space as possible but that propane cyle sure gets the job done, albeit a bit slow to peak. It took a few nights to get the living pattern down in not only my first RV experience but boondocking in virtual semi-wilderness with a generator and mismanaging limitations of the various tanks. Only needed one more trip to a "station" but truck stops showers contributed. The full advantage of 9 nights in an RV for the first time was enlightening and satisfying.
@@JoshtheRVNerd One other thing about power management! Since you have the ear of the manufacturers and represent our interests well, how about in addition to a small solar battery maintenance package, someone that parks under a cover could benefit from a similar grade of wind turbine. You would clearly need to put it down for travel but a breeze flowing under an RV port across a modest vertical turbine scroll would do what solar could not. Engineer at work.
Specs look decent. Without question you'll have to have a good brake controller and anti-sway/load leveling hitch system. Those are all pretty common stock In mostly flatlanding areas you'll likely find the pairing okay. Your truck may feel a bit "weak" if you really try to push higher speeds. 65 max on highways is plenty though And if you tow in high wind areas or in mountains, then the truck may struggle a bit. It's hard to say exactly how they'll behave
Check out the jay feather but I publish on Sunday, or the cougar and imagine things like it. I have links to the Cougar in imagine in the description of that jay feather
Even as a tall person I often ask the same When I see an RV with a low microwave, though, I get a _bunch_ of comments from people saying "why do they put the microwave so low? It's hard for someone that's older to bend down and get in and out of it" Which makes me miss the days of mid-mounted microwaves you just never see anymore
Thanks Josh! You’ve spoiled me. I can hardly stand to watch any other camper reviews now because of the thorough & fun approach you take!
Well TY for the kind words and joining me today :)
Same feeling! I like how Josh is is honest, he knows his stuff and can point out things that may be easily overlooked. I like his fair reviews! Plus, he is just so silly and fun!
Same
I’d be buying a thicker drape for the bedroom
You don’t like people watching you?
Totally appreciate the ‘slide-closed access’ feature of your videos! Being unable to access bed or bathroom with the slide closed is an absolute deal breaker for us, so thanks for including that info! Re: the sofa- definitely jackknife, easy to make into a bed type for us 👍🏻
Happy to help!
Someone who goes RVing was involved in this design. Those night lights were brilliant. We do like the pet friendly aspects of this floor plan. The mini laundry basket is pretty cool. Thanks for showing the road mode stop. This is a pretty cool model.
They have some really great and unique ideas in this layout. Love the dog friendly parts, love the layout under the bed. Would prefer theatre seating though. Since it is so small and basically a couples unit, they could gain some extra space for the kitchen/bath by totally eliminating the banquette and instead putting a table against the wall/window with two nice chairs there. Then if you have company visit, you could turn those chairs to face the other seating for a nice visit.
Hello; nice, but still preferring the east/west for a privacy door for the bedroom. Thank You, Sir
Fair enough!
I really like this Floorplan for a couples weekend getaway. I would however prefer to see a theater seat in that space. The underbed storage is awesome, I like what they did there. I especially like the "hidden fishing pole" Storage in the pass thru lol. Only drawbacks for me is lack of storage in the kitchen and the not so fluffy friendly space around the toilet, But over-all a very nice camper for sure
OK so if you remember me from numerous previous comments, I'm not a fan of slide outs. I feel the more moving parts not to mention the seals the more the chance of issues. Now there adding appliances to them that really scares me. Propane lines to refrigerator and stove??? I do love this layout all the down sides i can live with. Bathroom is tight but I'm not spending lots of time there. Tall side walls and vaulted ceiling ++++ as well as asdell . You may not like this!!!! but you need to have Bishs web developer create a search page that allows customers to select options easily. I know some may think im crazy but id love to be able to pick size ( maybe based on tow vehicle and yes i know that varies from one 1/2 ton to another but possibly 1/2 ton towable or large SUV ETC ), build materials, ( Wood, aluminum, with or without asdell, solar ready or equipped, Bunk house or no bunks, slides etc. To sum it up Id love to be able to build my camper and see what manufactures have what i want kind of close then have a page listing them to look at. For the lack of better terms I'm loosing my mind trying to find something without being able to compare them without doing several searches. I have watched sooooo many of your videos that when i find what I want I'm driving up there from South East Missouri to but it just to make sure your time spent doing all these videos is appreciated.
Something to keep in mind: Appliances in slide is standard practice in fifth wheels. Has been for years. It's really nothing new. Sometimes it seems to spook folks in travel trailers
But there's nothing wrong with no-slides as well. i try to showcase plenty of them where possible
Theater seats. Most definitely. Nice camper , very good storage on the inside. Great for a small family or couple
Saint B's think they're a Chihuahua and Chihuahuas think they are Mastiff's. Nice trailer - I would want a power theater seat.
Josh...you always put a smile on my face...love your personality!
Wow, thank you!
Im pretty critical of RV's, Travel trailers etc. I must say this thing couldn't be better thought out. This would be a perfect alternative to a tiny home as long as it was 4 seasons capable.
For cold camp ratings the Imagine and Cougars test a little better. I suspect cougar would fair the best
Love your videos! Keeps me rethinking and rethinking what I need and what I want and what I don't want.
Maybe you could do "Top 5 (fill in the blank)" videos? Top 5 Half Ton. Top 5 Couple. Top 5 Family Friendly, etc.
Great suggestion! I did a handful last year and a few this year wouldn't kill me! :)
This camper has so much much going for it, so why cut corners☹️Just add a porcelain toilet, a decent bathroom fan and a ladder and make it perfect👍
Frankly buddy.. I agree with you
This is very nice although I would like to see a free floating table instead of the tubes. The under bed storage is really awesome. This is one id like to see in person.
Well stop on by! ;)
I definitely prefer the theater seating. Now if only Ember would do that.
As they evolve I'm sure they will. They hear people loud and clear. But most of their models currently have slide dead above a wheel well.. can't floor-flush a theater seat THRU a wheel well.
But they're working on solutions
Always liked this floorplan mainly because of that rear kitchen and especially the windows in this design. Still haven't made up my mind on the flip up bed storage. I like the drawers that come out on either side better but as you've said the struts make it easy lifting. Love the roadmode functionality of this design as well. As to who did it best...🤷🏻♀️
Rosanna, the flip up bed design turned out to be one of my favorite Features
Nice camper...except gray tank too small, pricey, need deeper slide. Like the double azdel & storage under the bed.
Love the rear kitchen...the bathroom is ok next to the kitchen.
Thx Josh as always 🐾😎
Just an idea, how about video of all the makers that make the same floor plan in one video. For instance grand design, coachman, etc. all RV builders build this floor plan, so show a video of all the name brand videos. Thanks. Love your videos!👍
I've done a few brand battles like that but the problem is these things aren't parked at one location. I would really like to do EXACTLY what you've described though. Love this idea and TY for it
Pretty cool set up :) It would have been nice if they had that motion detector light only come out when its dark inside
Most definitely the theater seating!
I'm liking this floor plan the more I see it. Theater seating gets my vote. Have a great 4th of July weekend.
Ty and you too!!
Great competition for the Cougar 22MLS, and the Imagine 22MLE. The light colors make it feel roomy. I have my phone with me constantly, so the best charger spots for me would be next to the sofa, and beside the bed.
TY Gary! Which of the three would you go with given the choice?
I think I know your answer on this one...
@@JoshtheRVNerd You do. The Imagine 23lde, whose extended RV Nerd review is coming soon........?!... 😂 😂
I guess I'm the radical vinyl seat critic now. So I can honestly say this one hit a home run with the diamond tuck upholstery job😁👍.
We all have those "things" we zero in on. I realized this year I have a few.. like the outside speakers thing
LOL - thanx Josh for the transparent review -- Happy 4th!
Theater seating that reclines would be best if the TV is going to be that high up.
Fair!
"You're Mad Dog Tannen!"
"I hate that name..."
"Looks like I shoulda paid him that $80 for the horse"
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I just bought a used (and well-stored) Imagine 22MLE, based in no small part on your review from several months ago. I did look at the Northern Spirit, and really wanted that vaulted under-bed storage...but the deal on the 22MLE was just too good.
Wow congratulations! I hope it treats you well!
Would you mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review since my work here was helpful to you? It'll cost you nothing and I'd sure appreciate it!~
Theatre seats all the way for a couple's camper.
Agreed - Bad spot for phone charger and table USB/power outlets.
Sink cover storage - great!
I'd probably add some kind of backsplash behind the stove.
Good fridge.
Night light in bathroom is nice.
TY! First comment btw :)
Theater seats for sure😉
👏👏👏👏well done. Must have recliners, sometimes can’t stay in bed past 3am because of back pain. You talk about pets; we’re not pet haters, but don’t live with them, other than each other, but that’s different. Josh you should be careful about backing up in a RV, those fire extinguishers will trip you then you’ll be saying nothings broke; except my arm😆😆. The short falls on this one, a handyman or handy woman can fix. Keep’m coming bloopers & all
My legs are seriously ALWAYS banged up / scraped up doing these videos. I bonk into stuff constantly without mentioning it
Your microwave/soup/bowl speech is exactly why I keep saying more counter space please! Thank you. Netted space has to go, needs a door and again why no splash guard at the stove? But I'm loving this layout and that underbed storage is totally amazing. I know this is 10 months ago but still hope we see more like this. I like the graphics, lateral design, the diagonals more common are kinda distracting?
Ty Joyce! These are a strong value brand I think
This is a nice lookin Travel Trailer but I think that bed protrudes in that 3ntry a little too much, though I thought this one had a halfway decent bathroom and I love that style of rear kitchen's though Cougar 22MLS is still my most favorite one😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Fair enough!
Don't like the plastic bathroom sink or the true door, takes up too much space imo. I would prefer theater seats, unless I was planning on camping with a kid.... Fold out sofa better then breaking down the table to bed every night! And bummer there's no breeze window in the slide. But I LOVE that bed lift.
Cougar gets my vote!
TY for the vote/comparison!!
after loaded, probably 6500 or more.. def would have to be careful towing with a half ton.. I know, I did it. Just upgraded to a F350, better to have too much truck
I bet that was a night and day difference
I'd go with the Cougar. #1 reason is the freestanding dinette option. #2 is Transcend 240ML. Having the door split the booth and pantry is very smart. This is #3, I love the underbed.
I love pretty much everything about this trailer except for the lack of a ladder. Start including a ladder and I'm buying this one. If only Freedom Express had this floor plan in this size.
I see a lot of brands offering that removable ladder mount now. Would be surprised if they didn’t follow suit
That furnace duct on the back looks like...well...let's just say it's an exhaust port for the hot gasses to come out of. KnowhatImeanVern? 💩 💨
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I like the idea to move than wireless charger to above the radio, or have the radio spot shortened to put the charger there
Theatre seats please!
Cool new hat. The dinette is kind of a waste of space, I'd turn that in to a full time dog bed. I do like the door side window though, it's bigger than the mail slot windows that a lot of manufacturers put in if the kitchen is on that wall. I really like the storage arrangement under the bed. I really wish they'd flip the spots for the kitchen and the bathroom keeping the layouts the same.
I would love a desk swaption there
That toilet room is just not enough. I can use an outside shower if I had to for a quick clean up. The toilet isn't that easy to switch to. That may only be my take, but give me a few inches.
Ty
Cuddle friendly is the only way to go...especially if you have a cuddle friendly SO...or kids.
Showed this to my wife. She said "Theater. With a big console" lol :)
My top three....
- The kitchen area is choice! 👍
- The motion sensor night lights brilliant! (pun intended 😝)
- The storage area underneath the bed is VERY neat looking.
However, NOT so hip on the two cabinet doors underneath the sink...
I was like: "Ahh... What happened there???? 😳
Much appreciated Uncle Josh! 👍❤️
Awesome, thank you!
As much as this may be a great contender, it will never stack up to Freddie Mercury's Great Pretender.
Dang. I thought I had winner this time but it seems another one bites the dust
If this had a windshield, I'd be sold. I love the Cougar 22mls because of all the windows.
I was JUST about to say “well then you’ll LOVE the Cougar 22MLS” but it seems you already know that lol :)
Get some red film to put over that night light.
Can’t believe something as small as showing the camper with the slide closed makes me want to watch no one else.
Doing that was a user-submitted suggestion. I can't do EVERYTHING everyone asks, but if I can ever do something like that for you, then let me know
Why did I eat Frosted Flakes in a glass? Because I was to broke to buy a bowl.
Look
We’ve all been there
I would like to see an outlet in the corner behind the corner sink. Would be perfect place for crockpot or coffee pot.
....it really would!
I like the coachman bed storage
Ok Josh this seems like the first one close to the Grand Design mke.
And a nice second opinion. Almost but still longer.
Question here why do they make the front door glass not see thru?
And no side pockets by the bed?
Every brand has a little different way about the entry doors. Some do NO window. Some have the frosty glass for light + privacy. Some have a full window with no shade/privacy. Some do the full window with a shade BUT you cannot adjust the shade without opening the door and screen door
Each has benefits over the other. Each brand targets what they think works best
Josh, I forgot to mention the layout under the bed is incredible. Also, the lack of storage below is supplemented in transit by underbed storage. No need to leave some things home. When camping the dog loves it under the bed.
LOL that curtain. He's potentially just saved a lot of awkward conversations 😳🤣🤣
wink wink nudge nudge say no more!
theatre seats for me personally would be better most of the time, however this couch is perfectly acceptable.... it would not make an important enough difference to order or ship in the other version, i would take the one with couch as it is, still has the foot rests which is main concern of theatre seats, i never been one to actually recline in a recliner very often... but i am likely to lay across the couch while watching tv...so maybe this would be better for this one over theatre seats
Good points- I am the same way and have been thinking back and forth if it was worth the hassle of changing it out or waiting for one with TS.
love this floor plan and layout with the toilet space was a little bigger
It would be nice. Without the RV being wide body I'm just not sure what there is to be done about it
Camping with Klingons and their dogs, that's an idea
Imagine Klingons arguing with huskies in the campsite next to you lololol
Thanks Josh! Nice trailer. The seats/dog bed is nice but I'd like to see 2 swivel/rocking/ recliners there. Great travel mode and love the under bed versatility! And really love that rod holder! Now if it just had a generator and a little more fresh water......
My personal choice would be the Cougar
Ty
Thanks for highlighting the pet friendly features of this RV. That space under bed can hide the litter box while keeping it accessible to the kitties.
Love that kitchen and the bathroom, thanks Josh,
Any time!
I love it other than no outside camp kitchen.
Fair enough! I've not yet seen a builder apply one to this layout. I'm just not sure there's enough space anywhere to squeeze one in
Love this take on this floorplan! A big fifth wheel that I enjoy has its place for full timing. At the same time I can see this rig working for my parents as they tend to use the camper as a "home base" of sorts for kitchen/bath/rainy day use while most everyone else in the family tent camps.
The day we came up there, they had just gotten one of these things in. The dealbreaker for us was the bathroom, which felt like a broom closet. The kitchen is gorgeous though!! We ended up getting the Alpha Wolf 22SW-L instead.
I saw coachmen at a local RV show near me. To say I was not impressed with the quality would be an understatement. This thing felt like it would literally rattle apart going down the highway. It's a brand that I could never buy since it was so poorly built.
Under the sink, I’d find a way to knock out that panel to make some storage
One problem with that bathroom door. With the drawers opened,, the door opening is gonna get blocked. I prefer sliding doors with good locks
Like this a lot. Love the corner kitchen & microwave placement. Love lthe light wood floors & overall brightness, pet friendly, big shower etc. While package has a lot of appeal. Do they offer an upgraded solar package? Also do any trailers/ rvs offer on demand water heaters either gas OR electric. Industry is way overdue for a total elec package what with a lot of the energy efficiencies reached over the last two decades.
This brand does not offer any expanded solar currently it we could build those for you. Same thing with the tankless water heater
Get the bloody kitchen separated from the dunny!🤺🇦🇺
I agree, move the control/ monitor face over, create a couple narrow shelves with 1 USB/12V plug (they come in a pair with two USB slots under a cap and 1 12V plug under a cap) per shelf. Great place for a charging station, and it still leaves (actually expands the top shelf) shelf and upper portion of the cabinet for other storage.
TY Jan!
I like this rv. I really like how pet friendly it is. I think there are a couple of different options in this one for a litter box. Which is great for those of us who travel with our cats! (by the way...my cat watches your videos with me...he hears your voice and he jumps up and sits on the side of me to watch. 🐱lol) And love the storage area underneath the bed. I like the fact that it has solid steps, a bigger shower for us fluffy people and a bigger tv. Also gives you an option for different couches. That is a plus. I will keep saying it...I don't like exposed docking station! And no ladder! No bueno! I think if this and the Imagine one had a baby....that would be perfect!!!! Thanks for the video!
My pleasure and thank you as always, Joann!
I like the full queen access to the bath with slide closed and the solar system
We like this one a lot! It checks off so many of the must haves and a couple of the nice to haves
We like the theater seat arraignment.
TY!
Theater
We have a new trailer, but I love your videos. You point out many features in an entertaining manner..Keep up the great work.
Awesome! Thank you!
I love the way they have done the under bed storage. I think it would be improved if they mirrored the drawers and clothes basket niche for a his and hers setup. The space in the middle also looks like it could handle a small ottoman or two that could be used for extra seating when the grandkids come along.
I also like the sensor lights near the floor for getting up in the middle of the night. If they aren't able to be turned off I would add my own switch as it looks like there is easy access to the wiring and plenty of places nearby to mount a switch.
Never considered an under-bed ottoman.. that might work..
Love these videos! We are researching getting a travel trailer and your videos are my favorite!
I’d go for the theater seats since you already have a dinette.
Definitely think the tv swing arm could use some work and I agree there should be a slide door for the bathroom.
I’m always looking for these small travel trailers that fit a taller person as my husband is 6’5!
Wow TY Autumn!! Appreciate the visit. Feel free to drop questions along the way as you continue to watch on your search!
There are many things I like about this one especially the under bed storage layout but….not a fan of having the bathroom that close to the kitchen. The real deal breaker for me is the 33 gallon gray tank. You can always add water to the fresh but once the gray is full you’re done.
Totally Fair. I park camp mostly so tank sizes aren't quite as big a deal to me. I don't mind just quick dumping a grey as needed
Would prefer Theater seat!
TY Art!
I really like this floor plan. Those little floor lights are great. I like the sofa that is shown. Tv placement is good. If I was redesigning it, I’d open the back of that first dinette seat near the door and add a shoe tray to set my shoes inside. I like the under bed storage. 5 stars for that. Not having a kitchen trash can storage is unfortunate but since the bathroom is right there, putting the trash can in front of the door will work. It can be stashed in the shower when not in use. I like the long rod or rifle storage that is separate from the main storage. All in all, it ticks a lot of boxes for me.
I love that dinette idea!’
Theater seat. No kiddos.
Tents for the kids lol
For not much more money and a bit more weight I think I'll probably go for the Rockwood 2506S. Twice the grey tank size and an actual separate bedroom so I can watch TV while my wife goes off to bed. Tho, I really do like the little things like those motion activated night lights but I could always add them. Now just need to sell my 2018 Coachmen 23TQX hybrid now that my kids don't want to camp with us anymore!
And that's why I love having so many different things in our lineup! :)
Great trailer Josh! I’m all about the theater seats!
Love the interior height!! Interesting that it appears that the bed blocks the door. I understand the bed lifts, but it's not really a Murphy bed. Seems awkward. I would like drawers or bins under the dinette. I think the pet dishes are cute, but for one that doesn't have a pet, this seems like a total waste. I would rather have the storage like the other side. Agreed on plug height underneath. I like the wraparound kitchen, with some disclaimers. I would say though, the kitchen drawers would work better on the right. Shift the sink left. The drawers interfere with the bathroom door. (You could do deeper drawers too on the right.) Another cabinet door over the stove would make more sense than the netting. I love the storage in the bathroom, but I would need elbow room. This doesn't work for me. (Rough start Josh. Too funny.) (I have said way too much. LOL)
I think if you saw one in person, the. You’d realize the “flow” from That door is fine. But it’s subjective for sure
I really like the overall floor plan. The problem is the bathroom. The toilet has to have room to be usable. I am 6' 2" and a big guy. If you can't chicken wing around the toilet it is too small.
I love the rest. The one thing I didn't hear about is the warranty. Is it junk and I am better off with a used option?
I want as much as possible fof boondocking. I love the rosd mode and the height.
I would love to see a wide-body version of this with some extra space in the bathroom..
Josh: If wife and I were inclined to get a slideout trailer (we’re not), this might be a contender with the Grand Design Imagine XLS 22MLE. She hits ALL the key parameters like the XLS 22MLE except one; she’s too high to fit thru the barn door. She’s got dual axel, aluminum frame and fiberglass body, and with the fixed dinette, it’s fully usable in road mode. Shortcomings are the inward facing drawers under the bed. Really like the fact that you showed how to pull the top kitchen drawer out an lock the murder hobo in the head until the police come. Where’s Coachmen’s signature UUUUU-tensil drawer under the sink? Is she backup/monitor camera ready? She looks like it. Respectfully, W.S.
That drawer seems to be exclusive to freedom express which h find interesting. I used to see them in chaparrals years ago
There are little kits you can apply to an rv to add a backup camera to anything btw
This is another camper on my possible purchase list. I love all of extra room around the bed, wish the end of the bed wasn’t so close to the door. I would keep the sofa, and they need to move the charging station. What type of free floating legs do you recommend for the dinette table? I agree the the outlets in the dinette area should be higher. I like where they put the microwave. The windows by the sink are nice, 12v refrigerator is the way to go. I love all of the storage space, both inside and outside. Especially the lightsaber storage, how deep is that cabinet?
Thank you for everything you show and tell us in your videos.
This one and the Cougar 22MLS are tied for first. If only I could take what I like from each one to create the perfect camper for my retirement.
I don't think you need anything specific for the legs. Something like this I just quick-searched on amazon amzn.to/3yyNWgy
This layout is perfect, at least for me.
Theater seating all the way. Unless you have midget friends(can i say that) or tiny children, nobody is going to sleep on that sofa-bed and if they do...they won't sleep on it another night. Maybe that's the idea?
Knee knocker dinette? Come on man! So many better options.
I think I would leave the bed up unless it is bed time as it appears to impede your ingress and egress space. Or is it entrance and exit space?
In the words of Matt, " That's a $104 laundry basket".
The kitchen is minimal at best. There's virtually no cabinet space the way it's broken up. That's fine for a weekend but not so good for longer stays.
My wife likes to sleep with the TV on so that placement is rough.
I really prefer a little more room around the toilet. And "That's a $104 trash can".
"No ladder" just comes off as being chintzy. It saves them money and I'm pretty sure they aren't passing those savings along. I climb on the roof several times a month to make sure things are good and carrying an extension ladder on a camping trip is silly
Ventless floor is great for me because we don't do much cold camping and our furnace is rarely used.
Tall ceilings in this one are nice. The bed area is not bad.
How much does a tankless water heater add to the cost of an RV? I just think that makes so much more sense in today's world than the old fashioned propane things that I had in my 1970s model.
I'm not sure on the cost of tankless or what the comparative cost may be. I just don't see parts sheets regularly to have a good feel for that. We could get a quote for a client of course.
Josh, does anyone still make this floor plan ? Open Range Roamer 376FBH this was your vid ua-cam.com/video/6PcC6MEdx_E/v-deo.html
Actually... I think they do still build it. It's just called "Open Range 376FBH" -- the "Roamer" name was dropped and then repurposed. I simply haven't had any in stock wherever I've gone to record.
It looks like we have two locations in Montana that carry highland ridge though they're stock looks to be pretty painfully limited currently with only 2 of their fifth wheels on hand nationwide
So it's not impossible that I'll get some updated footage sometime
Keystones Passport 229rk s has a private bedroom with the queen bed. Just passing that along.
Yep! GREAT Model and I think that was a smart "spin" on this one. That also added about a foot to the RV which is a consideration for some folks
Your take on the various options of this niche, 22', with great features have me really thinking that this could be the one! I am 6'4" and the tall ceiling is brilliant, combined with great decent interior storage. Outside is a compromise, but then, the ability with a shorter RV than J imagined, to reserve space in more campgrounds that limit length make this glorious in its own right. Then there is the pending 22' Ember. Hmmmm... if it is tall enough.... Big note to me about chosing between refrigerators. I want space, but finally rented an RV and was so shocked at how efficient the propane cooling mode was. I WOULD LOVE A MODEL THAT WOULD FIT ONE 12V and ONE TWO-WAY! I have to be weird!!! I am a mechanical engineer and have ideas!
Yeah that's why 2-way fridges are still so popular in boondock-focused areas. On propane they use nearly zero battery power. JUST enough to keep the circuit board running in the fridge
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yep. I like as much space as possible but that propane cyle sure gets the job done, albeit a bit slow to peak. It took a few nights to get the living pattern down in not only my first RV experience but boondocking in virtual semi-wilderness with a generator and mismanaging limitations of the various tanks. Only needed one more trip to a "station" but truck stops showers contributed. The full advantage of 9 nights in an RV for the first time was enlightening and satisfying.
@@JoshtheRVNerd One other thing about power management! Since you have the ear of the manufacturers and represent our interests well, how about in addition to a small solar battery maintenance package, someone that parks under a cover could benefit from a similar grade of wind turbine. You would clearly need to put it down for travel but a breeze flowing under an RV port across a modest vertical turbine scroll would do what solar could not. Engineer at work.
Hi Josh. Could you remove the dinette, replace it with the couch and install two theater seats? Just a thought. Take care Buddy.
I don't believe the factory offers that but the idea is interesting...
Theater seat for sure
TY
Theater seats plz…
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hi josh we have a 1/2 silverado with a tongue weight of 940 and gvw of 9400. could we pull this
Specs look decent. Without question you'll have to have a good brake controller and anti-sway/load leveling hitch system. Those are all pretty common stock
In mostly flatlanding areas you'll likely find the pairing okay. Your truck may feel a bit "weak" if you really try to push higher speeds. 65 max on highways is plenty though
And if you tow in high wind areas or in mountains, then the truck may struggle a bit. It's hard to say exactly how they'll behave
I like that I could transform that to twin beds. Theater seating always. No ladder I'm out.
Check out the jay feather but I publish on Sunday, or the cougar and imagine things like it. I have links to the Cougar in imagine in the description of that jay feather
Why do they all put the microwave so high..it's dangerous when removing hot dishes for short people
Even as a tall person I often ask the same
When I see an RV with a low microwave, though, I get a _bunch_ of comments from people saying "why do they put the microwave so low? It's hard for someone that's older to bend down and get in and out of it"
Which makes me miss the days of mid-mounted microwaves you just never see anymore
Love you video. Is there TT with the same layout, but Murphy bed, so that total length at about 20 to 22 ft?
Closest would be this m.ua-cam.com/video/zvgatrRx49A/v-deo.html