A $2000 camera with a 2.3 M dot EVF and 8 bit 4K 30p? Is this a joke? Knowing OM, they would have crippled the burst rates too to not quite match the OM1.
I like the sound of the camera. My main hope is that Apple will add its .ORF details to the Photos app quickly, so RAW photos can be viewed on iPhones. My second hope is that the price comes down a tad. The specs are fine - if it's like the OM-1, it can produce 50Mb handheld which is more than enough for everyday life. I don't know what new tech everyone has in mind when they say they are disppointed? Has any camera maker has added anything new that is a 'must have' feature in the last 12-24 months? I am looking forward to OM-3, and if it's that happy marriage of (90-95%) OM-1 II specs in OM-5 (ish) size = happy days!
With that sensor and the business structure of OMDS I don't think they could have made it much cheaper. the evf is a bit disappointing but i understand their logic in thinking most users of this camera will be taking snapshots/casual street using primarily the LCD. I dont necessarily agree completely, but I understand their logic.
I don't think that's possible to do for anywhere near $600. 20mpx M4/3 sensors (which are the lowest resolution ones still in production) are not cheap...
I believe, it is great thing they make OM-3. But the price is a bit high. For 1599€ it would be nice price with 17mm 1.8... But I'm glad they are coming with refreshed 1.8 lenses. Wether sealed 17mm 1.8 is what i've always wanted to my OM5...
For context a Leica Dlux 8 comes for 1500€ with a very bright zoom included. Lack of PD would be the only drawback, but TBH, who in his right mind wouldnuse an OM3 for video or wildlife photography anyway?
The Pen-F sold below expectations but I wish OM System well for this new model. PDAF this time and ergonomics of their OMD. The main Pen market never wanted an EVF... that's why they were buying Pens. I hope the look is matched by build quality.
Sounds like the sensor used is the Sony IMX472 and can readout the entire 20mp frame at 120 fps 12 bit and other modes even faster. It is limited by the camera's processing power and thermals. The sensor isn't new, but the full capabilities of it have yet to be tapped.
Spec-wise it is logically sits between OM1 and OM5, that's where OM3 should be. So I wouldn't say the specs are underwhelming. But price-wise it is certainly overwhelming. How can it be more expencive than the current price of OM1? Probably they want to take the toll form those seeking the look and then will drop the price to where it should be.
I was ready to buy this evening at 2000 but not with that EVF. How can it match the ZF?? Let's see what canons retro camera looks later this year hopefully.
I don't think they have the capability to make a new camera based on a new sensor, or any sensor that Olympus didn't give them the design. If we ever get a truly new camera from OM Systems it will be designed by Sigma or Yongnuo or some other company, and rebadged for a premium price.
@@MikeC2K10I absolutely agree. I believe all this is OMS carrying out the Olympus projects and manufacturing contracts. They’re probably too far in to be able to adjust to a rapidly shifting market. OMS has become Vivitar.
It's good that OM digital have finally released a completely new model but it's going to be a tough sell. The price is the biggest issue in my opinion. Let's not forget this is a M43 sensor, it's up against APSC and even FF offerings at this price point. Perhaps if it shipped with the new mkII 17mm f1.8 included in the price it might make it competitive with the likes of the popular Fujifilm X100 VI. Given new buyers need to also budget for a lens as well this might put many off buying. There's definitely a market out there for this camera, I don't doubt that but it's not going to sell by the bucketload. Heck what do I know, perhaps folk will be waiting months on the pre-order list to get hold of one.
Release this exact camera here in PEN F form factor and I'll pay $2k for it all day long. As far as this camera here goes? Hard pass. That doesn't mean I think this camera "sucks" or that "nobody should buy it." It certainly is not a camera for me, personally. I'm curious what market OM thinks they're really targeting with this camera and if those folks would have been put off by a PEN body. A PEN Fii might have kept that hoped for target audience while also picking up the crowd that already is willing to pay $1000 for a used PEN F that's almost 10 years old... Well, that's not the path we're on so we can't ever really know... And at this point, if they release the PEN Fii to pick up the fans, I expect they see that as a risk for having some of the market that settled for the OM3, go to the PEN Fii instead, hurting final volume for the OM3. Sigh.
It does look cool, but I think they missed the mark on the price - too high and on features - just rehashed existing stuff. Also was hoping for more 1.2 lenses, not 1.8. 1.8 is underwhelming. OM needs to really focus on bridging the gap of their low light abilities with full frame. They say 7.5 stops of better image stabilization, but I’ll be curious to see what hand held shutter speed that translates to at night. Based on all the info so far, I think I’ll just stick with my E-m1 mark II for daytime stuff and my Nikon D600 for low light. Overall so far disappointed, but I am still hoping they still somehow find success, since I want OM system to continue, but I’d be _very_ surprised if this is a hit. I know a lot of people wanted a new pen F, so I guess maybe those people might be drawn to this (?). I guess we’ll see in a few hours 🤔
How do people not get it already? It’s over for OM. I have Olympus cameras and lenses and really wanted them to keep developing but they just are not going to do it. They could print money by just putting a new sensor and processor in a PenF mkii but they won’t do that. They won’t do anything that costs them any money at all. This new company is doing everything they can to squeeze every last cent possibly from what was left of Olympus and then they’ll scrap it and move on. I hate it. But it’s reality at this point.
In my humble opinion, it will sell 10x more if it was a true replacement of the Pen F. OM-3? It was never a best seller in it's original incarnation. If it is named as the OM-2n or OM-4Ti should have sold better.
Do you know if it is the exact same OLED EVF as OM5? I don't mind lower resolution but EM5.3/OM5 EVF had caused me migraines after a short use of the camera. Hope that it is not the same and I would definitely pre-order as such,
No way a camera > $1500 with 2.36 million dot EVF. The OM5 is already a beautiful retro design camera. Hopefully, OM System will kit the OM5 with the new 17mm prime.
M43 is still somewhat alive and I appreciate the release of the om-3 ! But why should I get this above a Fuji x-t50 or x-t5 ? It‘s gorgeous, but outdated under the hood. Holding on to m43 will lead to you losing money when reselling. Not enough to convince me, nah. …but, it‘s gorgeous…
M43 is still somewhat alive and I appreciate the release of the om-3 ! But why I get this above a Fuji x-t50 or x-t5 ? It‘s gorgeous, but outdated under the hood. Holding on to m43 will lead to you losing money when reselling. Not enough to convince me at least, nah. …it‘s gorgeous…
@@nicokremers7150I mostly use my old OM Zuiko lenses with an adapter on my Leica M10-R. And when I want to shoot film, I usually take my M6 (with Leica M lenses) But I don’t think I will ever sell the OM3 Ti. It has a special place in my heart.
Honestly the price and features aren’t doing anything for me. I’m still rocking EM5 mkii. I honestly would have considered something from them like a fixed lens Pen or a model similar to Ricoh GR3. I think a lot of people buying nowadays are looking for fixed lens cameras with great SOOC jpegs. Not necessarily for me but I see the appeal. There’s a reason Fuji and Ricoh can’t keep their cameras in stock. Why not give people a good alternative?
I really glad OMS is trying something new, in a way. Megapixelwise not promising. Also 1999 pricetag does hurt. Then again if it has MFT mount, there are plethora of lenses readily available. Seems fun camera but who is it for? Audience in their 20s might not even know about OM System. That it comes from legendary Olympus. Nor would they put 1999 monies on their first camera. 40s people might be somewhat willing, I think. Seniors only care family and travel. They probably already have MFT camera they want so whats the point of street camera? I am positive I am wrong of course but not 100% sold. Will watch reviews for sure.
If this is the best that they can bring to the table they aren’t going to be around long term. Om system seems to be in “me too” mode instead of anything new. Art filters on a dedicated knob seems to be what they think is going to bring new people to m43. Om system has lost their way imho. Please tell me what this has over a slightly used om-1 m1 at half the price or even a used mark II at a little bit more. 2k for this is a joke. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think it’s going to be a huge seller for om systems. But I guess I’ll look on the bright side as tthe used om-1m2 will be on the used market for cheaper now with everyone thinking they’re getting an upgrade when in reality this seems like a downgrade
Why should I get this above a Fuji x-t50 or x-t5 ? It‘s gorgeous, but outdated under the hood. Holding on to m43 will lead to losing money when reselling. Not enoough, nah.
The big argument for this camera against the ones you listed is the build quality. The silver part is supposed to be metal as opposed to paint covering plastic covering a magnesium alloy core.
@ right. If you can live with one lens, the x100vi has a aluminium top plate and good build/haptics. I would choose the Fujis any day given the much better tech inside.
Apples to oranges. The lens catalog for Fuji for instance is quite different (and in some ways, inferior) to that of M4/3. Not everyone wants to process 40mp files, not everyone gets on with the autofocus on Fuji's, etc. There is a place for both cameras.
Come out with same sensor camera repeatedly sucks.... this could have been done with a firmware upgrade.
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Oops! It's so ugly! 🙊 Who placed the name OM-3 so asymmetrically between the upper and lower edge of the silver area? Why is the OM-3 not symmetrical to the dial? I'll stick with my Pen F and OM 5
That depends on what you want in looks, size, and features. This OM-3 is smaller and lighter than the OM-1 and has a whole range of creative profiles that almost no other camera has.
I was hoping against hope, but the end for OM is nigh. They priced it higher than the X100VI, Nikon Zf and the XT-5. The only saving grace is the updating of the F1.8 primes. Have they updated the AF motors inside and are they going to be IP53 to match the OM-3 and the Om-5? I doubt that!!!! Alas, the end is nigh.
@@gregfeeler6910 don't get me wrong. The only thing is the price. They should have priced it comparable to the XT-50. I sincerely hope that the £1699 includes the new 17mm f1.8.
@@winheiMRDude. You at least get a lens with the X100VI for the £1599. Here you are probably going to get a body for 1699£. The new lens 17mm f1.8 will cost more than £500 I guess.
why keep M43???, I´m a Olympus fan since om2n film cameras, amazing cameras, but in 2025?!?! full frame is not big or more expensive, you can buy a full frame with a real 2.4 aperture, for less money and probably smaller, its just doing the same mistakes until they close OM company, 50 years ago they made great lens 50mm f1.2, 21mm f2, 90mm f2, now they do dated, slow, expensive lens
Not sure what you mean...as Fuji user who has used for work and play almost all of their cameras and curretly have X-T5, my new OM-1 knocks spots off Fuji for photos (not a video maker, so can't comment with anything worthwhile). I am unimpressed with the X-T5's autofocus and their IBIS isn't great at all. The X-T range's build quality is going downward - it's not bad, but unless an X-T6 reverses the trend, they are slowly reducing the quality of the build. I tried the X100V & VI but they aren't for me. A camera company of Fuji's size that doesn't seem able to keep up with demand after several years of 'runaway successes'? Hmmm, doesn't make sense...
A $2000 camera with a 2.3 M dot EVF and 8 bit 4K 30p? Is this a joke? Knowing OM, they would have crippled the burst rates too to not quite match the OM1.
I like the sound of the camera. My main hope is that Apple will add its .ORF details to the Photos app quickly, so RAW photos can be viewed on iPhones. My second hope is that the price comes down a tad. The specs are fine - if it's like the OM-1, it can produce 50Mb handheld which is more than enough for everyday life. I don't know what new tech everyone has in mind when they say they are disppointed? Has any camera maker has added anything new that is a 'must have' feature in the last 12-24 months? I am looking forward to OM-3, and if it's that happy marriage of (90-95%) OM-1 II specs in OM-5 (ish) size = happy days!
I completely agree! People are addicted to expecting major tech enhancements every year or two, but that's not realistic.
With that sensor and the business structure of OMDS I don't think they could have made it much cheaper. the evf is a bit disappointing but i understand their logic in thinking most users of this camera will be taking snapshots/casual street using primarily the LCD. I dont necessarily agree completely, but I understand their logic.
Might buy one later, once the price adjusts from launch, but so far it looks pretty solid.
$2000 for those specs in 2025 is a bit disappointing.
An understatement!
i would really like if Olympus & Panny brought some affordable (
I don't think that's possible to do for anywhere near $600. 20mpx M4/3 sensors (which are the lowest resolution ones still in production) are not cheap...
I believe, it is great thing they make OM-3. But the price is a bit high. For 1599€ it would be nice price with 17mm 1.8... But I'm glad they are coming with refreshed 1.8 lenses. Wether sealed 17mm 1.8 is what i've always wanted to my OM5...
For context a Leica Dlux 8 comes for 1500€ with a very bright zoom included.
Lack of PD would be the only drawback, but TBH, who in his right mind wouldnuse an OM3 for video or wildlife photography anyway?
The Pen-F sold below expectations but I wish OM System well for this new model. PDAF this time and ergonomics of their OMD. The main Pen market never wanted an EVF... that's why they were buying Pens.
I hope the look is matched by build quality.
Sounds like the sensor used is the Sony IMX472 and can readout the entire 20mp frame at 120 fps 12 bit and other modes even faster. It is limited by the camera's processing power and thermals. The sensor isn't new, but the full capabilities of it have yet to be tapped.
Spec-wise it is logically sits between OM1 and OM5, that's where OM3 should be. So I wouldn't say the specs are underwhelming. But price-wise it is certainly overwhelming. How can it be more expencive than the current price of OM1? Probably they want to take the toll form those seeking the look and then will drop the price to where it should be.
I was ready to buy this evening at 2000 but not with that EVF. How can it match the ZF?? Let's see what canons retro camera looks later this year hopefully.
I don’t think this gonna sell. Since Olympus was sold they haven’t made anything new. Everything is just being repackaged. From bodies to lenses
I don't think they have the capability to make a new camera based on a new sensor, or any sensor that Olympus didn't give them the design. If we ever get a truly new camera from OM Systems it will be designed by Sigma or Yongnuo or some other company, and rebadged for a premium price.
@@MikeC2K10I absolutely agree. I believe all this is OMS carrying out the Olympus projects and manufacturing contracts. They’re probably too far in to be able to adjust to a rapidly shifting market. OMS has become Vivitar.
It's good that OM digital have finally released a completely new model but it's going to be a tough sell. The price is the biggest issue in my opinion. Let's not forget this is a M43 sensor, it's up against APSC and even FF offerings at this price point. Perhaps if it shipped with the new mkII 17mm f1.8 included in the price it might make it competitive with the likes of the popular Fujifilm X100 VI. Given new buyers need to also budget for a lens as well this might put many off buying.
There's definitely a market out there for this camera, I don't doubt that but it's not going to sell by the bucketload. Heck what do I know, perhaps folk will be waiting months on the pre-order list to get hold of one.
Really cool, but the price will keep sales low.
Not for me I will stay with my OM1
Release this exact camera here in PEN F form factor and I'll pay $2k for it all day long.
As far as this camera here goes? Hard pass.
That doesn't mean I think this camera "sucks" or that "nobody should buy it."
It certainly is not a camera for me, personally.
I'm curious what market OM thinks they're really targeting with this camera and if those folks would have been put off by a PEN body.
A PEN Fii might have kept that hoped for target audience while also picking up the crowd that already is willing to pay $1000 for a used PEN F that's almost 10 years old... Well, that's not the path we're on so we can't ever really know...
And at this point, if they release the PEN Fii to pick up the fans, I expect they see that as a risk for having some of the market that settled for the OM3, go to the PEN Fii instead, hurting final volume for the OM3. Sigh.
They went cheap with the viewfinder 😒 I was excited, but nope not getting it!
It does look cool, but I think they missed the mark on the price - too high and on features - just rehashed existing stuff. Also was hoping for more 1.2 lenses, not 1.8. 1.8 is underwhelming. OM needs to really focus on bridging the gap of their low light abilities with full frame. They say 7.5 stops of better image stabilization, but I’ll be curious to see what hand held shutter speed that translates to at night. Based on all the info so far, I think I’ll just stick with my E-m1 mark II for daytime stuff and my Nikon D600 for low light. Overall so far disappointed, but I am still hoping they still somehow find success, since I want OM system to continue, but I’d be _very_ surprised if this is a hit. I know a lot of people wanted a new pen F, so I guess maybe those people might be drawn to this (?). I guess we’ll see in a few hours 🤔
How do people not get it already? It’s over for OM. I have Olympus cameras and lenses and really wanted them to keep developing but they just are not going to do it. They could print money by just putting a new sensor and processor in a PenF mkii but they won’t do that. They won’t do anything that costs them any money at all. This new company is doing everything they can to squeeze every last cent possibly from what was left of Olympus and then they’ll scrap it and move on. I hate it. But it’s reality at this point.
In my humble opinion, it will sell 10x more if it was a true replacement of the Pen F. OM-3? It was never a best seller in it's original incarnation. If it is named as the OM-2n or OM-4Ti should have sold better.
I'm surprised that cameras are still being released that don't shoot at least 60p in 4K, and they are even being priced like flagship models!😄
Video. I don’t care.
Not everyone is interested in video!
It's a shame that the viewfinder from the OM-1 with 5 million pixels is not used.
Do you know if it is the exact same OLED EVF as OM5? I don't mind lower resolution but EM5.3/OM5 EVF had caused me migraines after a short use of the camera. Hope that it is not the same and I would definitely pre-order as such,
Theo Should made a Compact Camera Based on the Original Mju-1
€2000? Yikes!
It's actually the looks and art filters that makes me not buy this camera. We wanted a pen f2
what time will be the announcement of fuji xe5 ?
No way a camera > $1500 with 2.36 million dot EVF. The OM5 is already a beautiful retro design camera. Hopefully, OM System will kit the OM5 with the new 17mm prime.
Can't stand cameras with no grip.
too expensive for what it is, yet nice to see. Filters are not mine
M43 is still somewhat alive and I appreciate the release of the om-3 !
But why should I get this above a Fuji x-t50 or x-t5 ? It‘s gorgeous, but outdated under the hood. Holding on to m43 will lead to you losing money when reselling. Not enough to convince me, nah.
…but, it‘s gorgeous…
M43 is still somewhat alive and I appreciate the release of the om-3 !
But why I get this above a Fuji x-t50 or x-t5 ? It‘s gorgeous, but outdated under the hood. Holding on to m43 will lead to you losing money when reselling. Not enough to convince me at least, nah.
…it‘s gorgeous…
We can hear the banjos ✌️
I think I will keep my current OM3 Ti 😂
I do not use my om-1 anymore but I still use the Zuiko OM lenses. Not on a Olympus camera😕
@@nicokremers7150I mostly use my old OM Zuiko lenses with an adapter on my Leica M10-R. And when I want to shoot film, I usually take my M6 (with Leica M lenses) But I don’t think I will ever sell the OM3 Ti. It has a special place in my heart.
Honestly the price and features aren’t doing anything for me. I’m still rocking EM5 mkii. I honestly would have considered something from them like a fixed lens Pen or a model similar to Ricoh GR3. I think a lot of people buying nowadays are looking for fixed lens cameras with great SOOC jpegs. Not necessarily for me but I see the appeal. There’s a reason Fuji and Ricoh can’t keep their cameras in stock. Why not give people a good alternative?
I really glad OMS is trying something new, in a way. Megapixelwise not promising. Also 1999 pricetag does hurt. Then again if it has MFT mount, there are plethora of lenses readily available. Seems fun camera but who is it for? Audience in their 20s might not even know about OM System. That it comes from legendary Olympus. Nor would they put 1999 monies on their first camera. 40s people might be somewhat willing, I think. Seniors only care family and travel. They probably already have MFT camera they want so whats the point of street camera? I am positive I am wrong of course but not 100% sold. Will watch reviews for sure.
I think Fuji xt-50 will beat in every meterics, besides autofocus and weather sealing
Isn’t this just an OM5? It just looks like an OM5, why not a rangefinder style?
Neither cameras you compared have wealth sealing. Agree on price
I agree with others that the price is just way to high. Only hard core fans will consider it at that price.
I think they won't need to produce plenty because it won't sell .....price and spec are out of the game.
If this is the best that they can bring to the table they aren’t going to be around long term. Om system seems to be in “me too” mode instead of anything new. Art filters on a dedicated knob seems to be what they think is going to bring new people to m43. Om system has lost their way imho. Please tell me what this has over a slightly used om-1 m1 at half the price or even a used mark II at a little bit more. 2k for this is a joke. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think it’s going to be a huge seller for om systems. But I guess I’ll look on the bright side as tthe used om-1m2 will be on the used market for cheaper now with everyone thinking they’re getting an upgrade when in reality this seems like a downgrade
Come on I would spend maybe 1000$ but 2000 for this camera are absolutely insane.
Why should I get this above a Fuji x-t50 or x-t5 ? It‘s gorgeous, but outdated under the hood. Holding on to m43 will lead to losing money when reselling. Not enoough, nah.
The big argument for this camera against the ones you listed is the build quality. The silver part is supposed to be metal as opposed to paint covering plastic covering a magnesium alloy core.
@ right. If you can live with one lens, the x100vi has a aluminium top plate and good build/haptics. I would choose the Fujis any day given the much better tech inside.
Apples to oranges. The lens catalog for Fuji for instance is quite different (and in some ways, inferior) to that of M4/3. Not everyone wants to process 40mp files, not everyone gets on with the autofocus on Fuji's, etc. There is a place for both cameras.
Come out with same sensor camera repeatedly sucks.... this could have been done with a firmware upgrade.
Oops! It's so ugly! 🙊
Who placed the name OM-3 so asymmetrically between the upper and lower edge of the silver area? Why is the OM-3 not symmetrical to the dial?
I'll stick with my Pen F and OM 5
Any new m43 camera is a great camera 😊
FFS! €/$2000??? I’ll watch the release just to see if they can announce it with a straight face.
underwhelming - they not the only show in town with vintage look
This is just an E-M10 V
Nothing burger, just like the Panasonic G97.
At $2000 it is more logical to buy OM1 ii.
That depends on what you want in looks, size, and features. This OM-3 is smaller and lighter than the OM-1 and has a whole range of creative profiles that almost no other camera has.
Way too expensive when compared with Nikon Z50 ii and Fujifilm X-T50.
Geez, nothing new really, sticking with my E-P7 which i got for one fourth of the price!
For me, it's a dead system. Since today.
... 2000$ for 4k30p, are you kidding me? 😂
Nikon Zfc failed and its very cheap now, this will fail on price alone.
Naysayers gonna nay but I think it's neat they are still trying
The OM-1ii in a different wrapper. Serious disappointment.
i think it will not sell well
troppo cara!
We shall see. I have seen much different specs. Perhaps you will come out of this with egg on your face.
I was hoping against hope, but the end for OM is nigh. They priced it higher than the X100VI, Nikon Zf and the XT-5.
The only saving grace is the updating of the F1.8 primes. Have they updated the AF motors inside and are they going to be IP53 to match the OM-3 and the Om-5? I doubt that!!!!
Alas, the end is nigh.
In allen Ehren was sie schreiben, aber eine Fuji X100... kann kein Objektiv wechseln!
I don't agree at all. What should be different about this camera in your opinion?
@@gregfeeler6910 don't get me wrong. The only thing is the price. They should have priced it comparable to the XT-50. I sincerely hope that the £1699 includes the new 17mm f1.8.
@@winheiMRDude. You at least get a lens with the X100VI for the £1599. Here you are probably going to get a body for 1699£. The new lens 17mm f1.8 will cost more than £500 I guess.
why keep M43???, I´m a Olympus fan since om2n film cameras, amazing cameras, but in 2025?!?! full frame is not big or more expensive, you can buy a full frame with a real 2.4 aperture, for less money and probably smaller, its just doing the same mistakes until they close OM company, 50 years ago they made great lens 50mm f1.2, 21mm f2, 90mm f2, now they do dated, slow, expensive lens
My first camera in 79 was an OM-1 and my Olympus journey ended in 2023 with the OM-1. OM System is nothing more to me than Vivitar.
Nonsense
What a disappointment.
The fujifilm for kids.
Not sure what you mean...as Fuji user who has used for work and play almost all of their cameras and curretly have X-T5, my new OM-1 knocks spots off Fuji for photos (not a video maker, so can't comment with anything worthwhile). I am unimpressed with the X-T5's autofocus and their IBIS isn't great at all. The X-T range's build quality is going downward - it's not bad, but unless an X-T6 reverses the trend, they are slowly reducing the quality of the build. I tried the X100V & VI but they aren't for me. A camera company of Fuji's size that doesn't seem able to keep up with demand after several years of 'runaway successes'? Hmmm, doesn't make sense...
This a joke... crap EVF, video is worse than my phone, burst rate of way cheaper and older cameras... No thank you.
And just what phone do you have that you think has better video.
@gregfeeler6910 Xiaomi 14 ultra.
Japan is regressing. Olympus is a company run by old hats, like Nissan. Can't imagine what China and et. all DJI can conjure up.