For those of you out there in the market, which bike would you rather have and why? Don't forget that you can win the Triple for FREE over on yammienoob.co
Yammie Noob Ninja 650. I sat on the Honda and found the Ninja to be a better fit for me. If I must pick one these 2 I guess I would take the Honda because I don’t have a triumph dealer near by.
You don’t have to be in neutral on the 2018 Street Triple R to start and tank grips are a must!! I’ve been riding for 27 years and the Street Triple R is my last street bike. I almost thought it was too much but once I realized it can be as tame as you want but it will do whatever you need!! It was more of a sport bike than I thought and I’ve totally embraced it. Motor/chassis combo is the I’ve best ever rode. I ride just for pleasure. It’s a happy maker. Great for spirited street ridding.
I am disappointed. You stopped the race before the honda reached the maximum torque. As any 4 cylinder engine it performs better at higher revs. But as I can see you closed the throttle on the honda around to 6-7000 revs before it wake up the beast.
I spent my money for a new 2017 Bonneville T-120 Black (March of 2017, my birthday present to myself for completing 65 years), then later that same year I bought a 2018 Street Triple R (September 2017). So Triumph does it for me. The Street always puts a smile on my face when I crank it past 8,000 RPMs! The T-120 is just soooo beautiful to me (sounds great too).
Honda - Everything you need, nothing you don't. The CB650R reminds me of my CB900F 919, as it is also a bare bones, minimalist, naked street fighter. The 919 is a joy to ride, and I imagine the 650 is too.
Triumph triple engines are wonderfully forgiving due to the flat torque curve. It sounds amazing and has so much character you just don't get in an inline four. That being said my Speed triple is the only bike I've ever owned that has false neutrals. Sloppy shifting is not an option. Furthermore Triumph dealerships are few and far between. Honda has shops everywhere.
My first bike ever is a 2016 street triple rx and I made like 9000 kms in 3 months and now I ride it like a bicycle. Very good handling and lot of power.
I swopped in a brand new 2016 CB650F after a couple of years for a very low milage (4.500 kilometres) 2014 Street triple R just riding home I knew I had made the correct decision. It was a 'point and shoot' bike, the difference in handling was immediately apparent. Still have it, it still looks immaculate, and still runs perfectly.. Triumph Triples are just beautiful ..
I had an 09 street triple and loved it. It seemed to be the most road confidence ride I ever had on a bike. It started developing oil seepage though. I loved the sound and handling of it but I had to get rid of it because of the addiction. I miss it and have had thoughts of getting another one. At 66 I still want another one.
Trident vs CB650R would be the most appropriate comparison, I think. Both are neo-retro with relatively high revving engines above 2 cylinders, but without the sporty pretentions of the Street Triple
I went with the Trident for a couple reasons. At 6'2 215lbs the Trident felt like a better rider position, love the sound and feel of the triple, $1,500 cheaper with a much nicer dash, I prefer the looks of the Trident and it is pretty buttery smooth flicking into corners. I do mostly commuting 50/50 open road and city and the ride quality is very comfortable.
I had a 06 CBR 1000rr that I put around 25k miles on before it was stolen and it was the most reliable motorcycle I ever owned. My Speed Triple is the best sounding motorcycle I have ever owned but its definitely not the most reliable.
Bought a 2013 street triple 675R as my second bike after my ninja 300. Was still a pretty new rider at that point but thankfully had a good mentor I could ride with and who helped me purchase the bike. Love the vid and love the bike!
I also just started on a 09 street triple and I don't regret it even for a second. It just makes power everywhere and handles so smooth. I do have a EU A license though, so I think I'm generally a bit more experienced than the average US beginner.
Watching this I am kicking myself for not finding the extra $4000 to go from the CB300R to the CB650R when I bought my first bike. I love the CB300R, but I feel like you could keep a 650R forever and never get bored.
I have been going back and forth on which one to get myself and I think I’m going with the 650R because of what you just said. I won’t get bored of it when I get really comfortable with it.
Learn to really ride man that 300 is a great bike and the cb650 will only get cheaper over time for you to buy used when you have more cash and experience
I own a 2014 Street Triple 675R...it will probably be the last motorcycle I own...I started riding in 1962. Seen a lot of technological changes in that time and regard the Striple as one of the best..
So, I was in the position where I had to chose between these two bikes, (CB650f not R) and here is what made me decide on which one to buy - and some afterthoughts; To iterate as well, it was going to be my first 'big' bike, but my 2nd actual bike. The Honda was in my opinion the smoother bike, and I do long rides, with some touring, so this was quite important for me. Alot of my friends are big bikers, many argued the Triumph would be more fun, but as mentioned in the video, the Honda was recommended as the more reliable - ill come back to this. Honda for myself was more comfortable. The Triumph was nice in gear changes - again something ill come back to. Finally, I got a better deal at Honda when talking with the chaps behind the counter. So with that in mind I bought the Honda. Here are my after thoughts. Honda looks good, but the pipes are none stop mainetance. I'm constantly polishing them. It is also a NIGHTMARE to clean. Getting in up the top of exhausts is a b*tch. Its fuel economy is not great, she is fuel thirsty but not too bad, I want a fuel stop every 110-120 miles. I'm comparing this to my other bikes, and friends bikes. Some cheap parts as you can find the plastic on the cowling coming away, and a bit of rust forming here and there despite meticulous cleaning. It also hates rock salt, but which bike doesn't? The gear changes on the Honda isn't great. I've ridden a few different bikes now, and the Honda is by far the worst. Moving from gear 1-2 I often find neutral, and its clunky, for a lack of better words. Not a nice gear change at all. Mechanically, the Honda has been sound well over 10,000 miles. Not a single thing I have had to do to it. Only 'niggle' was an engine warning light that came on for no apparent reason. Reconnecting the battery sorted it but the engine it self was fine, and still is, what caused the engine light I have no idea, nor does Honda.
Honda is always occupying one of the first places in all the statistcs regarding motorcycles reliability (like all the japanese bikes) while Triumpf is always struggling somewhere in the middle of all the tops. So, in my humble opinion, Honda isn't overpriced at all.
Still running my 2010 street triple. Had the famous stator/rectifier issue but that's been fixed by Triumph 8 years ago. Since then it's never missed a beat. 50,000 miles and counting.
I have had a lot of motorcycles over many years. My two motorcycles prior to my STR675R was a Suzuki SV650S and before that a SV650. The Honda is a great bike certainly and I also owned (concurrently) a Yamaha MT07. The STR675R is on a different level from any of those. It is a slightly tamed down and naked race bike, it has an exotic feel and look and the performance measures up to the looks. And mine at least has been a very reliable motorcycle. Just put new Rosso IIIs on it. The triple engine has a sound and feel that is unique and it pulls down low like a cruiser and on top screams like a racer!
I'm in the market for my first bike, and hearing y'all go through the talking points of what makes a good bike to learn on and what makes a good bike for experienced riders was very helpful. I didn't even think about the cost factor.
Dude, RUN away from italian bikes!! Make yourself a huge favour and buy Japanese - i was stuborn and bought a FB Mondial and had to get an engine rebuild with 5000 kms on the clock and 6 months ownership... and it was a NEW bike!! After that, i had gearbox problems and then electric problems - bike would shut down when slowing down and going from 3rd to 2nd (CPU box change) and i WAS DONE WITH IT!! And i lost money when i trade it for a new CB125R, but at that point, i really didnt care - just wanted to get rid of it!! So please... do yourself a favour and BUY JAPANESE and save a huge amount of troubles!! 🙏
@@mozeby1975that’s interesting - I’m learning to ride at the moment, and I’ve spent some time on the Triumph Street Triple. I am cautious bordering on nervous, and I really thought they were overdoing it in this video about how intimidating the Street Triple would be for a beginner. I enjoyed the video a lot notwithstanding (was really watching for the Honda CB-650, which I’m considering)
@@CombatlonI checked out the Honda before I got a Triumph Trident. Found it a bit boring and chunky (it’s pretty heavy for the class). Being a new rider a light bike makes handling pretty easy. Also if you’re going with a 600+cc bike as your first, something with a forgiving powerband like the Trident or CB vs a torquey more jumpy bike like a MT07 would maybe be easier to handle for you too.
@@mozeby1975 thank you - I've spent a lot of time on the Trident, and enjoyed it. I have tried both an MT-09 and an MT-07, and I found the MT-09 just felt more reassuring somehow, difficult to put my finger on it, because I don't have the experience, but I felt like the MT-09 gave me plenty of time to think about things, whereas the MT-07 always seemed to be demanding something.
I love my 765R. My "beginner" bike was a BMW 650CS (40HP single). Not really impressed with the reasons why the 765 is not a good first bike, as price of a few 10%'s is not really not relevant.. I would avoid the 765R for a "beginner" because the riding stance is high and forward, the foot controls are high/close-in, and most people won't be able to flat-foot it. It doesn't settle down/backward naturally when braking and is very easy to get going .. fast, very fast. The 765 loves to hold the stance/line and this requires planning, because holding (or starting) a bad line is still holding (or starting) a bad line. A more flick-able bike can be much more forgiving in situations of riding outside one's bounds. The slower accelerating and more agile BMW let me escape unharmed from a few "learning" situations which would likely have ended very poorly on the 765. The street triple is simply a sports bike in different clothing. That said, the ABS is buttery smooth; and yes, I'm thankfully for it every time it activates and keeps a wheel from locking up as there are wet leaves all over. Wheelies? Not by accident. The TC will keep the front tire down .. to a few inches .. unless disabled. (IMOHO, all bikes - and especially those sold to beginners - should have ABS.) The usable power range is absolutely amazing on the triple and the gearing is ridiculous: 1st gear will go up to ~70mph and 2nd gear will take the 765 for a smooth ride around town without any shifting. Use 3rd if you want; or don't. 5th and 6th gears feel a bit too close. Manual quick-shifting fills in the gaps, although an electronic QS doesn't come standard on the R (which is better all-around tuning than the S or RS). Proper luggage/rack options for the 765 are, unfortunately, abysmal which reduce it's ability for proper touring; nor would I recommend two-up for extended rides as the positions are very cozy due to high-set pegs and controls.
I thought the brakes were a bit weak on the Honda - otherwise it was very nice and I thought a great 7/10ths bike. May be judging the Honda brakes a bit harshly given what my normal ride (s1000r). Absolutely love the visible exhaust manifolds - piece of art. That triple, however. Will always sound better than an in-line 4. Very nearly bought a Speed Triple over my BM just because of the noise.
I like Honda bikes because I know I could get something cheaper but the peace of mind of reliability and low maintenance is worth the extra scratch in my experience . Yamaha is pretty much the same so far as reliability as many of my friends tell me.
Update after 2.5 years and 64xxx km ridden: Not a single problem. I use for daily commute, weekend trips, occasional touring, and go through heavy rain or flood at exhaust level Not a single problem oil change every 4,000 km Best Christmas decision of 2019!
I'm 65 and have been riding for 53 years ... started on dirt. My first street bike was a 1972 Honda CB350 and since then I've had a bunch of different bikes, no HD's. Since 1998 I've been riding BMW RT's since I was doing a lot of long distance touring. I gave up touring a couple years ago, been there ... done that ... next. Bought a BMW G310R, what a BLAST! But the 34hp got boring pretty quick. For the past year I've been searching for a bike to fit in between the R1250RT and the G310R. I was looking for a mid weight naked. I looked at them all Ducati, Triumph, KTM, BMW F900R and all the Japanese bikes. At the Cleveland bike show this past January I decided on buying a Honda CB650R and it's been one of my best bike purchases, ever. I LOVE this bike. I love the characteristics of an I4. I don't need massive torque down low to pop wheelies. The CB650R is an adult bike. This is my end bike. Well, along with my Vespa GTS250 :)
Nice video guys! I’ve got a CB650R as my second bike and I find her to be a mouth full already! Just find her to be a little twitchy when rolling on the throttle at lower speeds! Love her so much tho! One of the most beautiful bikes next to the Ducaties! Triumph in my taste isn’t sexy with those alien headlights...
My 2nd Gen 675R has never had an oil leak. I've never heard there's an oil leak problem with the Street 675's. Never. LOL! the bikes were neck and neck for maybe 3 seconds out of power band where they produce similar power. Come on guys... I've raced CB650's (with after market exhaust) and the Street drops them like it's not even a race, and that's on the 675 (stock exhaust) let alone the 765. My first bike was a CB650F. The Triumph is better in every way; it just is.
Started on a BMW F650 nearly four years ago and got myself a Street Triple RS last year. Test rode it while the snow was melting in early february and fell in love with the engine right away. What a bike! So precise, nimble and - imho - forgiving, it is just insane. Helps me with social distancing too! :D
Well you're not staring at the cluster panel much while driving, so I'd much rather have a small robust screen than one of those big displays which look like an amateur flash website from 20 years ago, cluttered with unnecessary information and animations. The only complaint I have about the Honda screen is that it could use a bit more contrast.
21:52 to 22:10 is kind of everything I needed to hear for any type of bike reviewing about what the bikes can do for its intended rider (feel of the bike/personality quirks) for the purpose in which they are made to be whether they be intentional or not :D great show guys love it.
Didn't anyone acknowledge how a cyclist and a motorcycle rider just greeted each other @28:30 ? I think that's a fantastic thing to do since we share a similar passion of two wheels
They did come out with the bigger screen on the 2024 I should've waited I've had my 2023 Cb650r for 3 months so far and About 1,860 miles on it it's been great but feel like it lacks power until it gets to its powerband around 7k my previous bike was an 07 ninja 650r was a lot peppier on low end but I love the naked look so i accept my purchase haha everytime I get out of work it's such a good looking bike
My 2 bike garage would be a Gray 2024 Honda CB650r E-Clutch(for a daily rider) and a 2023 Yellow Triumph Street Triple RS (for weekend rides). That’s a garage I could walk out to and just stare at for hours! 😊
What do you expect coming from a guy riding in ripped jeans? Respect went out the window regarding anything he said after I saw him standing there in that. What an ass.
Bought my first bike ever (CB650R) 6 months AGO and ever had a minute's regret choosing this bad boy. The Aussie release is electronically detuned to meet learner-ready requirements and all this makes it the perfect first bike in my opinion. There is a high frequency vibration through the bars and pegs at highway speed but other than that, this thing is faultless. Love it.
But this is your first bike ever. I loved my Suzuki TS 185, but after riding for 40 years on every major make except Ducati and Indian I now realise how agricultural it was.
I have an ‘18 Street Triple R and love it. Just put an SC Project slip-on on it. I had the bar end mirrors from the RS put on and a tidy tail. Wouldn’t have any other naked.
The Triumph street triple is one hell of a fun bike... heap's of raw power, handling is unreal and it's braking is awesome .... in my opinion it's probably the bike to own when you are stepping up to the big boys.....
Anything European feels special and exclusive. They usually have the most recent tech and higher horsepower figures vs competition. That new tech filters down to their other bikes and later to other noneuropean manufacturers. Since they take more risks sometimes reliably may be effected. But they are worth it to me as everyone has a Honda
I haven't had a motorcycle in 5 years and I've had the hardest time picking a bike. I keep bouncing from the CB650R to something nicer like a Street Triple or the new Ducati Monster. You got me at the end with the SV650 bit. That was my previous bike....
I feel, that feeling of lightness on 765R was due to the agressive tire profile on that, while CB uses little flatter profile at rear. Weight difference is also there but I feel the tires makes the difference for sure. Edit: You later mentioned it too.
Buy the Honda with your head and the Triumph with your heart. How many of us really buy bikes with our heads. If it doesn't stir your soul then walk away
Side by side roll on similarity is probably the way the bikes produce power. An engine with a raw power feel doesn't necessarily translate to more actual power than a smoother engine.
I've had the 765R for 4 years (exact same colour) and now fancy something new. But: This video totally advertises my own bike back to me. Reminds me why I love it and chose it in the first place.
I own a street triple 675 2nd gen with a two brothers slip on. And the only thing I have any issues with on that bike is the intake howl destroys your restraint. It just begs you to thrash it. And it's more addictive than heroin.
Just picked up a 2022 ST765R after five years of riding older Honda muscle bikes and a Sportster, definitely am glad I didn’t buy the ST first or I would’ve likely out road my personal ability, it’s a lot of bike for a beginner to actually be able to use all of it
Looking to get my first big bike and found this really useful, thanks. I'm currently on a CB125R and think the 650R will be the natural progression. Like you say, the Street Triple will be waiting for me in a couple of years. SOmething to look forward to.
Im in the same situation xD love the cb125r but its time to move up, considering the cb650r too, but i think a 2 cylinder would be better for me (city use mostly), like a mt07 (sound 🤤) or maybe the new hornet
You might now consider the Honda Hornet 750 as a choice however I prefer the looks and sound of the CB650R. It would make a great progression from the CB125R.
Test drove the street triple RS last weekend as a noob and found it so damn easy to drive. Restricted myself to rain and road mode though. But did not hesitate crack it open a bit when I could. Still felt the bike had so much more on reserve, but that is OK. Main thing is that I drove the bike and not the opposite. Last bike i drove before that was Honda CBR 650R. Also super easy to drive. But like the Streety so much more. So much that I plan on buying one as first own bike. Will not go for RS though. The R will be plenty for me for the coming years. It does come with quick shifter now which is a must have imho. More like long term bike to grow into. The extras of the RS make only sense on a racetrack and only then when you are a good rider. The 2k price premium of RS over R does not make sense for me as I will never be able to appreciate the extra options. Guess if you don’t have to drive it like a lunatic, but instead use some common sense from the get go on eiher of these bikes you are all good. Please note I am from Europe where we have to take proper lessons at a driving school and pass the driver’s test before ever being allowed to drive a motorbike on public roads. Due to age I did full license straight away. I took lessons on a Suzuki SV650. No previous experience on motorbikes whatsoever..
Bought the Street triple R last December brand new and have now about 400 miles on it and gaining experience with every minute of riding. What a great machine it is. Goes around corners as if on rails. And it is zippy. And there is still so much more to explore as I am still restricted to 6000 rpm max and I am not pushing it too hard into corners, but enough to have a total blast. But even then, you feel there is so much more in reserve power and handling wise. Being restricted during break in, it is nice that the bike has more than enough torque from down low. Picks up speed without any problem from idle, never feeling short of grunt. You can be a gentleman with it or an absolute hooligan. This bike doesn’t mind. It suits all riding styles or your mood of the day I guess… 200 more miles to go to first service and then it is time to gradually open up the taps. 6000 more revs to explore! Cannot wait!
Intro pull at 28:49 Didn't think I'd have to fish for it, Yammie. No timestamp in the video or the description? Just make me wait half an hour to see those last two seconds? Please, man.
@@yammienoob I know. I've been watching you for years and the quality has only improved. I've gotta tell you honestly though, it makes me not want to watch the video at all when I see a small and interesting clip cut like this to ensure viewership. I think for these longer videos you should do something like Vlog Creations (formerly Ross Creations) and put timestamps to all the different sections of the video right at the start (or in the description but yours is already hella long), so that people can skip to the parts they came for or at least have the option to do so. I'd like you to at *least* have an "Intro at [timestamp]" in the description. I can only speak for myself, but editing like this makes me angrier than pure clickbait. It's basically watch-time bait, or that's how it feels. I want to watch your video because it's keeping me interested, not because I'm waiting for that one intro part to come up again.
Best thing about the CB is that it is EXACTLY the same setup as the CBR version. Meaning that you can ditch the high bars and slap on some CBR clip-ons (Removing the air snorkels first obv). Best mod i did to my CB. Now feels more aggressive and at full tuck will do 154mph easily
Sold my cb650r for the new street triple rs 2020. You really feel the difference when in curves. Street triple just turns wherever you set your eyes on. And light as fuck! Smooth engine and up and down quickshifter is just so gooood!
The dyno chart you put up is for the 2016 SPEED triple r, not the STREET triple lol 🤦♂️🤦♂️. The street triple (even the rs model) doesn't make anywhere near that much torque, it's about 20 ft lbs less.
@@angry_z_rider4275 I disagree. The street needs to be "wound up" a little to get to the power, whereas the speed has power from about 2500 rpm...and more of it. 20 ft lbs more, to be exact. I was seriously considering financing a speed triple (2016 r model actually), and test rode both bikes back to back. Going from the speed to the street felt like a huge downgrade in power from the bottom. The speed felt way more "aggressive" as a result in my opinion. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
@@gorillamoto5329 I am running a 2014 speed I rode the 2018 street rs and was very impressed buy how much harder it charged. Yes the speed has more on the bottom but that street is noticeably lighter and definitely wheelies easier. Hp on the 765 rs is the same as my 2014 speedy. Glad this was remedied with the 2018 speed triple and the 2020 but triumph is still not competitive hp wise at the moment with other euro bikes.
I have a 20 year old Cbr600f4, 25k miles on the clock and it runs like a champ. Just had to replace the stator and it's as good as new! Honda's are no joke
A CBR600f4i was my first bike and it began what has become a life long love affair with the big H. Some complain because the Hondas don't always make class leading power but in the right hands and set up properly the Honda suspensions, year in and year out will turn the fastest laps on the market!
Interesting video. I've been riding 30 years and have only owned 2 Honda's in my life. I gave up on them because I had nothing but problems with both Honda bikes. Your friend keeps speaking of reliability - well then Yamaha would be the way to go. We all know they continually win the most reliable brand of motorcycle every year. But the bottom line is 95% of bikes will last a long time IF you do proper maintenance, etc. Every brand on occasion has it's own problems (even Yamaha's). In my personal experience owning 15-20 motorcycles over the years, I've had the LEAST amount of issues with Yamaha... then probably my Suzuki's. I currently have a 2019 Triumph Tiger 1200 Xcx - and so far no issues (but if you listen to other people this bike should be on the tree lawn for garbage pick-up in 2 months). All this is subjective. There could be 5000 people that own a Suzuki V-Strom and 2 people have an issue and post at all over social media & then potential buyers think it's a "problem bike" when in reality it's not. But no mention of the 4998 "happy owners." So, you just have to be wise and educated when you purchase.
I took the Honda CB650R for a test ride before ending up with my XSR900 - as soon as I was off the Honda my immediate thought regarding the riding experience was, 'vanilla', bearing in mind, this was a few months before I rode my XSR900. Love the look of the Honda, but riding it just left me feeling, 'meh'.
Really cool video guys, think you've sold be on the Honda vs the triumph 660 which I love(I'm in my 40s and been getting back into bikes over the past year, want power more than speed),but after watching a few of your videos, the Honda takes the cake as I need to get my wife on the back seat. I can also get a used Honda for way cheaper then the triumph. Enjoy your videos and your conclusion on this video regarding the street triple, I think it's too much bike for me at the moment. Also, don't fancy the front end, looks a bit too much like a transformer.
The problem is the Hondas are always your solid choice, they do what they do and will do it forever with little care. I'd like to ride that Triumph but as a day to day bike, I'm sure cruse words would be coming soon. It's like women, sometimes the cute one you can ride day in day out is the way to go over the fast, showy one's.
Coreano en España NOTHING is as reliable as a Honda.... I needed to buy a boat for an off grid property that can only be gotten to by boat (or float plane), and I could only afford one motor, no spares on a boat to be in the middle of nowhere.....so I told them to take off the mercury and put on a Honda motor before putting it in the water....... Nothing is as reliable as a Honda, on two wheels, on a boat, in a generator, in a pump...... Honda’s aren’t always flashy, but do always work....
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ Guess what they aren’t flawless I know lots of cbr1000r whit flaws and huge engine/electrical problems, it’s not always as it seems to be
Me I'm 55 and own the CB650R and doing the street thing at high speeds got me two broken legs and I mean with exposed fractures, a broken pelvis and arm back in 1994 so thank you but no thanks, I love my Honda.
I just got signed up to get my A license and I really want to get the CB650R because I like how it looks and I hope I get to grips with the controls and the whole package. My dad owns a 125cc that he bought from Spain and I pretty much learned to ride on that but it's a 1 cylinder engine that barely gets to 60mph so I want something that can do 70-75 relaxed and I can grow into. Plus i want to let him ride it some time and see a bright smile on his face
I'm 52 now and had many bikes in my time! I started my first bike journey on a 750 GSXR Slingshot, then various bikes from Fireblades, Ninjas and the one that nearly killed me was an SV1000! Left the bikes alone for a while but the bug is still there! So I decided to get Vespa's, old two stroke and the new GTS300! Mrs got a GTS125 and we spend sunny days out riding all day! But my son has now got into it and bought himself a CB650R! So I have promised to take him a road trip through the Alps in Europe! So I am looking for a steed for the trip, I am looking at the Triumph range as I have never owned one! Love the T120 and the Tiger Sport 660 for different reasons!
Its a big ask comparing the Honda to another bike that is considerably more expensive and powerful. Like most choices in life.. its down to what you can afford. In terms of value, the Honda wins it hands down.
$900 more for the street triple S gets you 30 more hp, more adjustable suspension, 30 lbs less weight, ride modes, tft dash. How is the Honda possibly a better value?
These were the 2 bikes I narrowed down to on my move- up purchase!!! I really tried to demo the CB650R last year at bike week, but it wasn't available (smh Honda), and I couldn't buy without trying it. I bought the Triple R, totally in LOVE with this bike (a bit tall for 5'5), but crazy about the triple!!! NOT ONE ISSUE. Glad I have the Brembos, modes, TFT, and better suspension. I did finally demo the CB650R last week at RC Hill in Deland and was very impressed. It was so much fun and my husband is a fan of the 4 cylinder engine. (He really liked the CB1000R- has a Gsx-S1000)...Gotta admit....may be looking at the CBR650R with the fairings if we get another bike- because Honda is so reliable and easy to maintain. Was looking for this comparison last year, but glad you guys did it!!
I've got a Striple S, is a Euro A2 variant but been derestricted to 94 BHP. Can't say I notice buzzy handle bars. I do like the Honda CB650R, I'd like one of those too , to keep my Striple company in my bike shed !
Nick Clark My 2019 Street Triple RS had a great warranty extension option 6 yrs $0 deductible. Kind of a no brainer to get with a new bike but piece of mind also.
I passed my UK test, went from an A1 125 class bike on to a Triumph Speed Twin , and I SURVIVED ! Now I also have a Street Triple , I've SURVIVED on that too. Yes, I'm probably not that good a rider, but I've SURVIVED ! (well so far ;) )
200,000ks on 4 Triumphs. Never had an issue. Never ever heard of Triumphs having a gearbox or any other significant issue and Triumphs are very popular here in Australia.
You guys pretty much contradicted yourselves. Said you “have to think about it” when going around turns (with the cb650r) and that the triple is so much easier when going through curves. And then say that the cb650r is a better beginner bike than the street triple?? Even though the street triple is so much easier to ride?? Also, the street triple has more rider aids, including a rain mode, trac control, abs, and much better brakes. And not to mention the street triple is about 50lbs lighter. Remind me why the cb650r is a better beginner bike? Just because it’s less expensive? The triple is actually not much more expensive than the cb640r. You can get a 2019 street triple r for less than 10k$ I’m just saying, I’ll take that street triple as a beginner bike any day before that Honda 🤨
Korean Rider in Spain I was talking specifically between the two bikes...but I do know people that started out on a triple and they were just fine. The bike is quite light, and throttle is really smooth
XSR900 is the best performance in retro standard bike of this category. No matter you pick up, CB650R/1000R, XSR700/900 or Z900RS or even CB11000 for vintage engine feel, they are good choices. These bikes are reliable and reasonably priced compared to Triumph. You are going to enjoy the low cost of service for the Japanese bikes after tons of miles.
For those of you out there in the market, which bike would you rather have and why? Don't forget that you can win the Triple for FREE over on yammienoob.co
Just give it to me already I'm a broke college student who can't even afford it or ur merch boi just send it my wayyy
Yammie Noob Ninja 650. I sat on the Honda and found the Ninja to be a better fit for me. If I must pick one these 2 I guess I would take the Honda because I don’t have a triumph dealer near by.
MT-09 SP will be getting it soon i hope
You don’t have to be in neutral on the 2018 Street Triple R to start and tank grips are a must!! I’ve been riding for 27 years and the Street Triple R is my last street bike. I almost thought it was too much but once I realized it can be as tame as you want but it will do whatever you need!! It was more of a sport bike than I thought and I’ve totally embraced it. Motor/chassis combo is the I’ve best ever rode. I ride just for pleasure. It’s a happy maker. Great for spirited street ridding.
Yammie Noob I’m buying my first bike and I’m 5’8 what should I look for? I’m looking for a street bike
28:50 for the people who want to skip to the race. p.s the content is great too, if you haven't seen it yet already.
bless you
thank you , shame uploader don't do this
I am disappointed. You stopped the race before the honda reached the maximum torque. As any 4 cylinder engine it performs better at higher revs. But as I can see you closed the throttle on the honda around to 6-7000 revs before it wake up the beast.
A real hero
I spent my money for a new 2017 Bonneville T-120 Black (March of 2017, my birthday present to myself for completing 65 years), then later that same year I bought a 2018 Street Triple R (September 2017). So Triumph does it for me. The Street always puts a smile on my face when I crank it past 8,000 RPMs! The T-120 is just soooo beautiful to me (sounds great too).
Honda - Everything you need, nothing you don't.
The CB650R reminds me of my CB900F 919, as it is also a bare bones, minimalist, naked street fighter. The 919 is a joy to ride, and I imagine the 650 is too.
Honda's are great for the older rider who appreciates quality, has nothing to prove and just wants to go for an enjoyable ride.
I'm 33 on a honda cbr650r. Am I old? ;)
Enjoy the heck out of that bike
@@Kelevelin I'm 29 soon to be getting a cb650r 🤣 yh i guess we're old before our time ahaha
I’m 46 and just got my 21 CB650R, very fun bike.
Boo! Lol
@@Kelevelin am 22 years old with a CB650R, definitely not, it's an amazing bike
Triumph triple engines are wonderfully forgiving due to the flat torque curve. It sounds amazing and has so much character you just don't get in an inline four. That being said my Speed triple is the only bike I've ever owned that has false neutrals. Sloppy shifting is not an option. Furthermore Triumph dealerships are few and far between. Honda has shops everywhere.
My first bike ever is a 2016 street triple rx and I made like 9000 kms in 3 months and now I ride it like a bicycle. Very good handling and lot of power.
I swopped in a brand new 2016 CB650F after a couple of years for a very low milage (4.500 kilometres) 2014 Street triple R just riding home I knew I had made the correct decision. It was a 'point and shoot' bike, the difference in handling was immediately apparent. Still have it, it still looks immaculate, and still runs perfectly.. Triumph Triples are just beautiful ..
Clutch in and the triple will start in any gear. Doesn't need to be in neutral. Does need stand up.
Right. No expirience that guy .
Mi striple starts in every gear with clutch pulled in
I let you talk me into a triumph. Just picked up the 2020 street triple rs saturday. And I love it
Is it as awesome as it seems?
Such a great bike. Enjoy!
@@Injamben since it's my first big bike I dont have anything to compare it to. But I have been having an immense amount of fun on it
@@yammienoob thanks
My first bike is a 2015 street triple. Been eyeballing that 2020 RS. that silver ice color looks amazing
I had an 09 street triple and loved it. It seemed to be the most road confidence ride I ever had on a bike. It started developing oil seepage though. I loved the sound and handling of it but I had to get rid of it because of the addiction. I miss it and have had thoughts of getting another one. At 66 I still want another one.
I would literally find a way to ride to nowhere
"Triumph is more buzzy"
"Oh btw I've never left 2nd gear"
Hahaha
And was riding in ripped jeans. Just a complete, talking head goon.
Trident vs CB650R would be the most appropriate comparison, I think. Both are neo-retro with relatively high revving engines above 2 cylinders, but without the sporty pretentions of the Street Triple
I went with the Trident for a couple reasons. At 6'2 215lbs the Trident felt like a better rider position, love the sound and feel of the triple, $1,500 cheaper with a much nicer dash, I prefer the looks of the Trident and it is pretty buttery smooth flicking into corners. I do mostly commuting 50/50 open road and city and the ride quality is very comfortable.
I had a 06 CBR 1000rr that I put around 25k miles on before it was stolen and it was the most reliable motorcycle I ever owned. My Speed Triple is the best sounding motorcycle I have ever owned but its definitely not the most reliable.
Bought a 2013 street triple 675R as my second bike after my ninja 300. Was still a pretty new rider at that point but thankfully had a good mentor I could ride with and who helped me purchase the bike. Love the vid and love the bike!
I started with Ninja 400, now i have a Striple R 765... i do 300 mile days all the time on both ......absolutely fuggin love the triple .
I also just started on a 09 street triple and I don't regret it even for a second. It just makes power everywhere and handles so smooth. I do have a EU A license though, so I think I'm generally a bit more experienced than the average US beginner.
Watching this I am kicking myself for not finding the extra $4000 to go from the CB300R to the CB650R when I bought my first bike. I love the CB300R, but I feel like you could keep a 650R forever and never get bored.
I have been going back and forth on which one to get myself and I think I’m going with the 650R because of what you just said. I won’t get bored of it when I get really comfortable with it.
Learn to really ride man that 300 is a great bike and the cb650 will only get cheaper over time for you to buy used when you have more cash and experience
@@T2HeadedEagle A better option is a used first bike and then upgrading to a new bike.
I own a 2014 Street Triple 675R...it will probably be the last motorcycle I own...I started riding in 1962. Seen a lot of technological changes in that time and regard the Striple as one of the best..
What bikes are you folks in this thread riding since your comments two years ago?
Striple S and ninja 1000 sx now
So, I was in the position where I had to chose between these two bikes, (CB650f not R) and here is what made me decide on which one to buy - and some afterthoughts; To iterate as well, it was going to be my first 'big' bike, but my 2nd actual bike.
The Honda was in my opinion the smoother bike, and I do long rides, with some touring, so this was quite important for me.
Alot of my friends are big bikers, many argued the Triumph would be more fun, but as mentioned in the video, the Honda was recommended as the more reliable - ill come back to this.
Honda for myself was more comfortable.
The Triumph was nice in gear changes - again something ill come back to.
Finally, I got a better deal at Honda when talking with the chaps behind the counter.
So with that in mind I bought the Honda. Here are my after thoughts.
Honda looks good, but the pipes are none stop mainetance. I'm constantly polishing them. It is also a NIGHTMARE to clean. Getting in up the top of exhausts is a b*tch.
Its fuel economy is not great, she is fuel thirsty but not too bad, I want a fuel stop every 110-120 miles. I'm comparing this to my other bikes, and friends bikes.
Some cheap parts as you can find the plastic on the cowling coming away, and a bit of rust forming here and there despite meticulous cleaning. It also hates rock salt, but which bike doesn't?
The gear changes on the Honda isn't great. I've ridden a few different bikes now, and the Honda is by far the worst. Moving from gear 1-2 I often find neutral, and its clunky, for a lack of better words. Not a nice gear change at all.
Mechanically, the Honda has been sound well over 10,000 miles. Not a single thing I have had to do to it. Only 'niggle' was an engine warning light that came on for no apparent reason. Reconnecting the battery sorted it but the engine it self was fine, and still is, what caused the engine light I have no idea, nor does Honda.
The street triple was my first bike. Def not a beginner bike but it was such a beast. I miss it alot
Honda is always occupying one of the first places in all the statistcs regarding motorcycles reliability (like all the japanese bikes) while Triumpf is always struggling somewhere in the middle of all the tops. So, in my humble opinion, Honda isn't overpriced at all.
In Australia the triple r is about $5k more than the cbr. Even the triple s is about $2k more.
Man you have to bend your knee to the crown AND no discount. thats tough@@davea9946
I had two Triumphs and I was never left on the side of the road. They were very reliable.
OMG 2 triumphs bikes , thats my dream bro !!!!
Still running my 2010 street triple. Had the famous stator/rectifier issue but that's been fixed by Triumph 8 years ago. Since then it's never missed a beat. 50,000 miles and counting.
@@ikra Funnily enough that issue used to belong to Honda (VFR).
@@ikra , awesome
@@ikra I also had a 2010 Street Triple R, replaced regulator/rectifier, otherwise no issues.
That Honda looks soo good
Yeah and that muffler
I think the same about the triumph
Hate those 2 “fanny packs” either side of the tank
I have had a lot of motorcycles over many years. My two motorcycles prior to my STR675R was a Suzuki SV650S and before that a SV650. The Honda is a great bike certainly and I also owned (concurrently) a Yamaha MT07. The STR675R is on a different level from any of those. It is a slightly tamed down and naked race bike, it has an exotic feel and look and the performance measures up to the looks. And mine at least has been a very reliable motorcycle. Just put new Rosso IIIs on it. The triple engine has a sound and feel that is unique and it pulls down low like a cruiser and on top screams like a racer!
I'm in the market for my first bike, and hearing y'all go through the talking points of what makes a good bike to learn on and what makes a good bike for experienced riders was very helpful. I didn't even think about the cost factor.
Make sure you go to other sources as well. I found the opinions on Yannie contradict a lot of the major bike media sites and UA-cam pages.
Dude, RUN away from italian bikes!! Make yourself a huge favour and buy Japanese - i was stuborn and bought a FB Mondial and had to get an engine rebuild with 5000 kms on the clock and 6 months ownership... and it was a NEW bike!! After that, i had gearbox problems and then electric problems - bike would shut down when slowing down and going from 3rd to 2nd (CPU box change) and i WAS DONE WITH IT!! And i lost money when i trade it for a new CB125R, but at that point, i really didnt care - just wanted to get rid of it!! So please... do yourself a favour and BUY JAPANESE and save a huge amount of troubles!! 🙏
@@mozeby1975that’s interesting - I’m learning to ride at the moment, and I’ve spent some time on the Triumph Street Triple. I am cautious bordering on nervous, and I really thought they were overdoing it in this video about how intimidating the Street Triple would be for a beginner. I enjoyed the video a lot notwithstanding (was really watching for the Honda CB-650, which I’m considering)
@@CombatlonI checked out the Honda before I got a Triumph Trident. Found it a bit boring and chunky (it’s pretty heavy for the class). Being a new rider a light bike makes handling pretty easy. Also if you’re going with a 600+cc bike as your first, something with a forgiving powerband like the Trident or CB vs a torquey more jumpy bike like a MT07 would maybe be easier to handle for you too.
@@mozeby1975 thank you - I've spent a lot of time on the Trident, and enjoyed it. I have tried both an MT-09 and an MT-07, and I found the MT-09 just felt more reassuring somehow, difficult to put my finger on it, because I don't have the experience, but I felt like the MT-09 gave me plenty of time to think about things, whereas the MT-07 always seemed to be demanding something.
Belated congratulations to Kyle on the win. Hope you are having fun with it.
I love my 765R. My "beginner" bike was a BMW 650CS (40HP single). Not really impressed with the reasons why the 765 is not a good first bike, as price of a few 10%'s is not really not relevant.. I would avoid the 765R for a "beginner" because the riding stance is high and forward, the foot controls are high/close-in, and most people won't be able to flat-foot it. It doesn't settle down/backward naturally when braking and is very easy to get going .. fast, very fast. The 765 loves to hold the stance/line and this requires planning, because holding (or starting) a bad line is still holding (or starting) a bad line. A more flick-able bike can be much more forgiving in situations of riding outside one's bounds. The slower accelerating and more agile BMW let me escape unharmed from a few "learning" situations which would likely have ended very poorly on the 765. The street triple is simply a sports bike in different clothing.
That said, the ABS is buttery smooth; and yes, I'm thankfully for it every time it activates and keeps a wheel from locking up as there are wet leaves all over. Wheelies? Not by accident. The TC will keep the front tire down .. to a few inches .. unless disabled. (IMOHO, all bikes - and especially those sold to beginners - should have ABS.)
The usable power range is absolutely amazing on the triple and the gearing is ridiculous: 1st gear will go up to ~70mph and 2nd gear will take the 765 for a smooth ride around town without any shifting. Use 3rd if you want; or don't. 5th and 6th gears feel a bit too close. Manual quick-shifting fills in the gaps, although an electronic QS doesn't come standard on the R (which is better all-around tuning than the S or RS).
Proper luggage/rack options for the 765 are, unfortunately, abysmal which reduce it's ability for proper touring; nor would I recommend two-up for extended rides as the positions are very cozy due to high-set pegs and controls.
I thought the brakes were a bit weak on the Honda - otherwise it was very nice and I thought a great 7/10ths bike. May be judging the Honda brakes a bit harshly given what my normal ride (s1000r). Absolutely love the visible exhaust manifolds - piece of art. That triple, however. Will always sound better than an in-line 4. Very nearly bought a Speed Triple over my BM just because of the noise.
I like Honda bikes because I know I could get something cheaper but the peace of mind of reliability and low maintenance is worth the extra scratch in my experience . Yamaha is pretty much the same so far as reliability as many of my friends tell me.
Update after 2.5 years and 64xxx km ridden:
Not a single problem. I use for daily commute, weekend trips, occasional touring, and go through heavy rain or flood at exhaust level
Not a single problem
oil change every 4,000 km
Best Christmas decision of 2019!
which bike are you talking about?
I'm 65 and have been riding for 53 years ... started on dirt. My first street bike was a 1972 Honda CB350 and since then I've had a bunch of different bikes, no HD's. Since 1998 I've been riding BMW RT's since I was doing a lot of long distance touring. I gave up touring a couple years ago, been there ... done that ... next. Bought a BMW G310R, what a BLAST! But the 34hp got boring pretty quick. For the past year I've been searching for a bike to fit in between the R1250RT and the G310R. I was looking for a mid weight naked. I looked at them all Ducati, Triumph, KTM, BMW F900R and all the Japanese bikes. At the Cleveland bike show this past January I decided on buying a Honda CB650R and it's been one of my best bike purchases, ever. I LOVE this bike. I love the characteristics of an I4. I don't need massive torque down low to pop wheelies. The CB650R is an adult bike. This is my end bike. Well, along with my Vespa GTS250 :)
Nice video guys!
I’ve got a CB650R as my second bike and I find her to be a mouth full already! Just find her to be a little twitchy when rolling on the throttle at lower speeds! Love her so much tho! One of the most beautiful bikes next to the Ducaties! Triumph in my taste isn’t sexy with those alien headlights...
you want to do the smog block off plates mod to improve the twitchy throttle...as a bonus it will sound better to Cheap to improve..
Yeah that headlights only something a mother would love
Hmmm, I’m thinking of changing my ducati scrambler for the 650r. Reasons are engine heat and reliability.
@@MissMan666is that on all cb650r’s or just restricted?
Honda for me. Reliable. Economical. It works.
Not to mention how good it looks. Gorgeous bike.
Anytime he says exotic i hear money falling out my pockets.
Sounds like you’re talking about a toaster oven.
Honda All Day, Change Oil, Top Off Coolant, Keep Chain Clean and Tight....Turn key and GO.
My 2nd Gen 675R has never had an oil leak. I've never heard there's an oil leak problem with the Street 675's. Never. LOL! the bikes were neck and neck for maybe 3 seconds out of power band where they produce similar power. Come on guys... I've raced CB650's (with after market exhaust) and the Street drops them like it's not even a race, and that's on the 675 (stock exhaust) let alone the 765. My first bike was a CB650F. The Triumph is better in every way; it just is.
Started on a BMW F650 nearly four years ago and got myself a Street Triple RS last year. Test rode it while the snow was melting in early february and fell in love with the engine right away. What a bike! So precise, nimble and - imho - forgiving, it is just insane. Helps me with social distancing too! :D
Honda: let’s make an awesome bike then throw a 2005 IPod on it for the gauge cluster.
Well you're not staring at the cluster panel much while driving, so I'd much rather have a small robust screen than one of those big displays which look like an amateur flash website from 20 years ago, cluttered with unnecessary information and animations. The only complaint I have about the Honda screen is that it could use a bit more contrast.
Said no one ever. 🙄
Yeah, but 2005 was a great year for iPods.
It's an already an expensive bike as it is.
better than what i currently have on my DRZ400!
Oh my god, watching an old video… how much better the cinematography has gotten in the last 2 years!
21:52 to 22:10 is kind of everything I needed to hear for any type of bike reviewing about what the bikes can do for its intended rider (feel of the bike/personality quirks) for the purpose in which they are made to be whether they be intentional or not :D great show guys love it.
Didn't anyone acknowledge how a cyclist and a motorcycle rider just greeted each other @28:30 ?
I think that's a fantastic thing to do since we share a similar passion of two wheels
once honda changes the cb650r the display gauge on it, it'll be on my radar... rn I'm still drooling on the street triple
What'd you go with bro?
They did come out with the bigger screen on the 2024 I should've waited I've had my 2023 Cb650r for 3 months so far and About 1,860 miles on it it's been great but feel like it lacks power until it gets to its powerband around 7k my previous bike was an 07 ninja 650r was a lot peppier on low end but I love the naked look so i accept my purchase haha everytime I get out of work it's such a good looking bike
@@xrxckyx9210 Great choice, the fun to me is reving it high, not so much power down low
My 2 bike garage would be a Gray 2024 Honda CB650r E-Clutch(for a daily rider) and a 2023 Yellow Triumph Street Triple RS (for weekend rides). That’s a garage I could walk out to and just stare at for hours! 😊
I didn't have to be in neutral to start either my Street Triple or Speed Triple bikes. Unless, of course, the kickstand was down.
What do you expect coming from a guy riding in ripped jeans? Respect went out the window regarding anything he said after I saw him standing there in that. What an ass.
Bought my first bike ever (CB650R) 6 months AGO and ever had a minute's regret choosing this bad boy. The Aussie release is electronically detuned to meet learner-ready requirements and all this makes it the perfect first bike in my opinion. There is a high frequency vibration through the bars and pegs at highway speed but other than that, this thing is faultless. Love it.
But this is your first bike ever. I loved my Suzuki TS 185, but after riding for 40 years on every major make except Ducati and Indian I now realise how agricultural it was.
Don't they offer the unrestricted variant in Australia as well?
I have an ‘18 Street Triple R and love it. Just put an SC Project slip-on on it. I had the bar end mirrors from the RS put on and a tidy tail. Wouldn’t have any other naked.
The Triumph street triple is one hell of a fun bike... heap's of raw power, handling is unreal and it's braking is awesome .... in my opinion it's probably the bike to own when you are stepping up to the big boys.....
Anything European feels special and exclusive. They usually have the most recent tech and higher horsepower figures vs competition. That new tech filters down to their other bikes and later to other noneuropean manufacturers. Since they take more risks sometimes reliably may be effected. But they are worth it to me as everyone has a Honda
I haven't had a motorcycle in 5 years and I've had the hardest time picking a bike. I keep bouncing from the CB650R to something nicer like a Street Triple or the new Ducati Monster. You got me at the end with the SV650 bit. That was my previous bike....
I feel, that feeling of lightness on 765R was due to the agressive tire profile on that, while CB uses little flatter profile at rear. Weight difference is also there but I feel the tires makes the difference for sure.
Edit: You later mentioned it too.
silly
@@AlienSexGod shut up
I’d take the Cb all day. The refinement, build quality, and unquestionable reliability of a Honda will always trump a bit more power.
Daytona spec is great. The handling, engine , brakes will be great. I love the street triple. What a bike.
Buy the Honda with your head and the Triumph with your heart. How many of us really buy bikes with our heads. If it doesn't stir your soul then walk away
Side by side roll on similarity is probably the way the bikes produce power. An engine with a raw power feel doesn't necessarily translate to more actual power than a smoother engine.
I've had the 765R for 4 years (exact same colour) and now fancy something new.
But: This video totally advertises my own bike back to me. Reminds me why I love it and chose it in the first place.
I own a street triple 675 2nd gen with a two brothers slip on. And the only thing I have any issues with on that bike is the intake howl destroys your restraint. It just begs you to thrash it. And it's more addictive than heroin.
😂😂😂
You spoke briefly about the seat heights. The Street Triple R comes in a lower seat height configuration also. It’s 1.77” lower. Pretty significant.
Good first bike: a used 675 street triple - Triumph's go anywhere, do anything bike with a little less power.
Nope
Just picked up a 2022 ST765R after five years of riding older Honda muscle bikes and a Sportster, definitely am glad I didn’t buy the ST first or I would’ve likely out road my personal ability, it’s a lot of bike for a beginner to actually be able to use all of it
Looking to get my first big bike and found this really useful, thanks. I'm currently on a CB125R and think the 650R will be the natural progression. Like you say, the Street Triple will be waiting for me in a couple of years. SOmething to look forward to.
Im in the same situation xD love the cb125r but its time to move up, considering the cb650r too, but i think a 2 cylinder would be better for me (city use mostly), like a mt07 (sound 🤤) or maybe the new hornet
You might now consider the Honda Hornet 750 as a choice however I prefer the looks and sound of the CB650R. It would make a great progression from the CB125R.
Test drove the street triple RS last weekend as a noob and found it so damn easy to drive. Restricted myself to rain and road mode though. But did not hesitate crack it open a bit when I could. Still felt the bike had so much more on reserve, but that is OK. Main thing is that I drove the bike and not the opposite.
Last bike i drove before that was Honda CBR 650R. Also super easy to drive. But like the Streety so much more. So much that I plan on buying one as first own bike. Will not go for RS though. The R will be plenty for me for the coming years. It does come with quick shifter now which is a must have imho. More like long term bike to grow into. The extras of the RS make only sense on a racetrack and only then when you are a good rider. The 2k price premium of RS over R does not make sense for me as I will never be able to appreciate the extra options.
Guess if you don’t have to drive it like a lunatic, but instead use some common sense from the get go on eiher of these bikes you are all good.
Please note I am from Europe where we have to take proper lessons at a driving school and pass the driver’s test before ever being allowed to drive a motorbike on public roads. Due to age I did full license straight away. I took lessons on a Suzuki SV650. No previous experience on motorbikes whatsoever..
Bought the Street triple R last December brand new and have now about 400 miles on it and gaining experience with every minute of riding. What a great machine it is. Goes around corners as if on rails. And it is zippy. And there is still so much more to explore as I am still restricted to 6000 rpm max and I am not pushing it too hard into corners, but enough to have a total blast. But even then, you feel there is so much more in reserve power and handling wise.
Being restricted during break in, it is nice that the bike has more than enough torque from down low. Picks up speed without any problem from idle, never feeling short of grunt. You can be a gentleman with it or an absolute hooligan. This bike doesn’t mind. It suits all riding styles or your mood of the day I guess…
200 more miles to go to first service and then it is time to gradually open up the taps. 6000 more revs to explore! Cannot wait!
Intro pull at 28:49
Didn't think I'd have to fish for it, Yammie. No timestamp in the video or the description? Just make me wait half an hour to see those last two seconds? Please, man.
That’s because we put time and effort into the whole video and it’s valuable. Thanks for watching
@@yammienoob I know. I've been watching you for years and the quality has only improved. I've gotta tell you honestly though, it makes me not want to watch the video at all when I see a small and interesting clip cut like this to ensure viewership. I think for these longer videos you should do something like Vlog Creations (formerly Ross Creations) and put timestamps to all the different sections of the video right at the start (or in the description but yours is already hella long), so that people can skip to the parts they came for or at least have the option to do so. I'd like you to at *least* have an "Intro at [timestamp]" in the description. I can only speak for myself, but editing like this makes me angrier than pure clickbait. It's basically watch-time bait, or that's how it feels. I want to watch your video because it's keeping me interested, not because I'm waiting for that one intro part to come up again.
@@yammienoob be that as it may, not cool
@@jsfsdk although yammie has a point, yours is stronger
Best thing about the CB is that it is EXACTLY the same setup as the CBR version. Meaning that you can ditch the high bars and slap on some CBR clip-ons (Removing the air snorkels first obv). Best mod i did to my CB. Now feels more aggressive and at full tuck will do 154mph easily
Sold my cb650r for the new street triple rs 2020. You really feel the difference when in curves. Street triple just turns wherever you set your eyes on. And light as fuck! Smooth engine and up and down quickshifter is just so gooood!
Y.E. Noob: I need some oil for my distinguished English lady
Dealer: Should I pour it in the engine or just straight on the ground?
Thor Hansen - 😂😆
Lmao
Not the Hinckley Triumph so much. I had 2001 Speed Triple, burned a little oil, but no leaking. My 2010 Street Triple R no oil burning or leaking.
Good one
Do you really have a Triumph? I don't think so.
The dyno chart you put up is for the 2016 SPEED triple r, not the STREET triple lol 🤦♂️🤦♂️. The street triple (even the rs model) doesn't make anywhere near that much torque, it's about 20 ft lbs less.
Here is the weird thing. The street feels more aggressive.
@@angry_z_rider4275 I disagree. The street needs to be "wound up" a little to get to the power, whereas the speed has power from about 2500 rpm...and more of it. 20 ft lbs more, to be exact. I was seriously considering financing a speed triple (2016 r model actually), and test rode both bikes back to back. Going from the speed to the street felt like a huge downgrade in power from the bottom. The speed felt way more "aggressive" as a result in my opinion. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
@@gorillamoto5329 I am running a 2014 speed I rode the 2018 street rs and was very impressed buy how much harder it charged. Yes the speed has more on the bottom but that street is noticeably lighter and definitely wheelies easier. Hp on the 765 rs is the same as my 2014 speedy. Glad this was remedied with the 2018 speed triple and the 2020 but triumph is still not competitive hp wise at the moment with other euro bikes.
@@superstretch215
I've been riding liter bikes since 1985. I love the wider Torque band. And the OMG when you give it the Spurs.
Cheers
Also, regarding reliability, I had zero issues with my Street Triple RS up to 7k miles
7000 miles isn't what I would call reliable
I’ve had zero issues with my Honda,saying that I’ve only done 112.000 miles and barely run in really 🤣😂🤣😂👍
@@bobs6129 It's reliable to 7000 miles, is it not.
Riding with ripped regular jeans. Smart, I would gladly accept that guys' advice.
I have a 20 year old Cbr600f4, 25k miles on the clock and it runs like a champ. Just had to replace the stator and it's as good as new!
Honda's are no joke
A CBR600f4i was my first bike and it began what has become a life long love affair with the big H. Some complain because the Hondas don't always make class leading power but in the right hands and set up properly the Honda suspensions, year in and year out will turn the fastest laps on the market!
Interesting video. I've been riding 30 years and have only owned 2 Honda's in my life. I gave up on them because I had nothing but problems with both Honda bikes. Your friend keeps speaking of reliability - well then Yamaha would be the way to go. We all know they continually win the most reliable brand of motorcycle every year. But the bottom line is 95% of bikes will last a long time IF you do proper maintenance, etc. Every brand on occasion has it's own problems (even Yamaha's). In my personal experience owning 15-20 motorcycles over the years, I've had the LEAST amount of issues with Yamaha... then probably my Suzuki's. I currently have a 2019 Triumph Tiger 1200 Xcx - and so far no issues (but if you listen to other people this bike should be on the tree lawn for garbage pick-up in 2 months). All this is subjective. There could be 5000 people that own a Suzuki V-Strom and 2 people have an issue and post at all over social media & then potential buyers think it's a "problem bike" when in reality it's not. But no mention of the 4998 "happy owners." So, you just have to be wise and educated when you purchase.
Every brand on occasion has *its* own problems..
I took the Honda CB650R for a test ride before ending up with my XSR900 - as soon as I was off the Honda my immediate thought regarding the riding experience was, 'vanilla', bearing in mind, this was a few months before I rode my XSR900. Love the look of the Honda, but riding it just left me feeling, 'meh'.
Really cool video guys, think you've sold be on the Honda vs the triumph 660 which I love(I'm in my 40s and been getting back into bikes over the past year, want power more than speed),but after watching a few of your videos, the Honda takes the cake as I need to get my wife on the back seat. I can also get a used Honda for way cheaper then the triumph. Enjoy your videos and your conclusion on this video regarding the street triple, I think it's too much bike for me at the moment. Also, don't fancy the front end, looks a bit too much like a transformer.
Good video. I'm looking to buy my first motorcycle and was strongly considering the Honda CB650R. You guys helped steer me closer to that choice.
The problem is the Hondas are always your solid choice, they do what they do and will do it forever with little care.
I'd like to ride that Triumph but as a day to day bike, I'm sure cruse words would be coming soon.
It's like women, sometimes the cute one you can ride day in day out is the way to go over the fast, showy one's.
CRP triumph street triple is very reliable though
Coreano en España
NOTHING is as reliable as a Honda....
I needed to buy a boat for an off grid property that can only be gotten to by boat (or float plane), and I could only afford one motor, no spares on a boat to be in the middle of nowhere.....so I told them to take off the mercury and put on a Honda motor before putting it in the water.......
Nothing is as reliable as a Honda, on two wheels, on a boat, in a generator, in a pump...... Honda’s aren’t always flashy, but do always work....
Coreano en España your very reliable statement is a joke in front of Honda......
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ Guess what they aren’t flawless I know lots of cbr1000r whit flaws and huge engine/electrical problems, it’s not always as it seems to be
Me I'm 55 and own the CB650R and doing the street thing at high speeds got me two broken legs and I mean with exposed fractures, a broken pelvis and arm back in 1994 so thank you but no thanks, I love my Honda.
“DRZ is a Rescue Animal”... I laughed out loud. Thanks for that.
Hilarious to listen to you two shit on each others bike low key style LOL. Its like watching an episode of the office bike review style hahahahahaha
Triumph street triple. Never gets old. I love it!
Such a good bike.
I don’t care about TFT screens and rider modes . I just want to to work , every day , all year , all weather . I’m a Honda guy ;)
The difference in visibility between the TFT vs LCD dashes is insane! I hope Honda can upgrade to one on the CB say...next year?
I just got signed up to get my A license and I really want to get the CB650R because I like how it looks and I hope I get to grips with the controls and the whole package. My dad owns a 125cc that he bought from Spain and I pretty much learned to ride on that but it's a 1 cylinder engine that barely gets to 60mph so I want something that can do 70-75 relaxed and I can grow into. Plus i want to let him ride it some time and see a bright smile on his face
I like them both. But one thing they didn't mention (nor did the need to) is seat height and comfort. I can't fit on a triple because I'm so short.
they have a lowered ride height version
@@bella_testastrettaFo sho'?
The power of that 650 Honda matches what my 81 900F Super Sport did. Hard to believe.
Wow let's compare a $20 knife to a surgical scalpel and see which is sharper.
How about a $3 Xacto knife
which is the $20 knife here?
Street triple
I'm 52 now and had many bikes in my time! I started my first bike journey on a 750 GSXR Slingshot, then various bikes from Fireblades, Ninjas and the one that nearly killed me was an SV1000! Left the bikes alone for a while but the bug is still there! So I decided to get Vespa's, old two stroke and the new GTS300! Mrs got a GTS125 and we spend sunny days out riding all day! But my son has now got into it and bought himself a CB650R! So I have promised to take him a road trip through the Alps in Europe! So I am looking for a steed for the trip, I am looking at the Triumph range as I have never owned one! Love the T120 and the Tiger Sport 660 for different reasons!
Its a big ask comparing the Honda to another bike that is considerably more expensive and powerful.
Like most choices in life.. its down to what you can afford.
In terms of value, the Honda wins it hands down.
$900 more for the street triple S gets you 30 more hp, more adjustable suspension, 30 lbs less weight, ride modes, tft dash. How is the Honda possibly a better value?
Picked up a 2012 street triple for my daily commute. Can't wait to take this baby to the track soon!
Very interesting vid !
One comment about british reliability : my '95 Triumph Trophy3 is near 135000km (~84000 miles) and still running well.
These were the 2 bikes I narrowed down to on my move- up purchase!!! I really tried to demo the CB650R last year at bike week, but it wasn't available (smh Honda), and I couldn't buy without trying it. I bought the Triple R, totally in LOVE with this bike (a bit tall for 5'5), but crazy about the triple!!! NOT ONE ISSUE. Glad I have the Brembos, modes, TFT, and better suspension.
I did finally demo the CB650R last week at RC Hill in Deland and was very impressed. It was so much fun and my husband is a fan of the 4 cylinder engine. (He really liked the CB1000R- has a Gsx-S1000)...Gotta admit....may be looking at the CBR650R with the fairings if we get another bike- because Honda is so reliable and easy to maintain. Was looking for this comparison last year, but glad you guys did it!!
i had a street triple moment not too long ago. i yelled “TRY-UHMFFFF”
I had an 03 bonneville and it allways drew a crowd!!! It was awesome and beautiful!!!🤠🏍
Triumph just has that je ne sais quoi but I think I'd have to go with an XSR900 because I don't want to budget for a new transmission every 3 years.
A japanese motorcycle is alway the smartest choice! Bonne chance!
Cbr 650r great bike, as you guys say no drama, you can go here and there and never worry about it leaving you stranded.
Try to make a video on the new Kawasaki z900
Thinking of getting one
A video on it from you would be amazing!
I've got a Striple S, is a Euro A2 variant but been derestricted to 94 BHP. Can't say I notice buzzy handle bars.
I do like the Honda CB650R, I'd like one of those too , to keep my Striple company in my bike shed !
I need a bike to get me to work every day, no matter the conditions and have fun on. I would not risk the triumph as much as I'd love to.
@Ben Daulton I do 15,000 miles a year and don't have spare cash for big repairs. The Honda is the only choice.
Nick Clark My 2019 Street Triple RS had a great warranty extension option 6 yrs $0 deductible. Kind of a no brainer to get with a new bike but piece of mind also.
I passed my UK test, went from an A1 125 class bike on to a Triumph Speed Twin , and I SURVIVED ! Now I also have a Street Triple , I've SURVIVED on that too. Yes, I'm probably not that good a rider, but I've SURVIVED ! (well so far ;) )
Just bought street triple used with arrow and all the good stuff for $4800 first ride made my ninja 650 feel like trash. Will be keeping the triple.
200,000ks on 4 Triumphs. Never had an issue. Never ever heard of Triumphs having a gearbox or any other significant issue and Triumphs are very popular here in Australia.
You guys pretty much contradicted yourselves. Said you “have to think about it” when going around turns (with the cb650r) and that the triple is so much easier when going through curves. And then say that the cb650r is a better beginner bike than the street triple?? Even though the street triple is so much easier to ride?? Also, the street triple has more rider aids, including a rain mode, trac control, abs, and much better brakes. And not to mention the street triple is about 50lbs lighter. Remind me why the cb650r is a better beginner bike? Just because it’s less expensive? The triple is actually not much more expensive than the cb640r. You can get a 2019 street triple r for less than 10k$ I’m just saying, I’ll take that street triple as a beginner bike any day before that Honda 🤨
John Hiebert I had both and would not recommend the street triple as a first bike. Beginners should get 300cc used bikes.
Korean Rider in Spain I was talking specifically between the two bikes...but I do know people that started out on a triple and they were just fine. The bike is quite light, and throttle is really smooth
John Hiebert street triple is a bike to keep! I love mine! 👍🏻
You clearly don’t understand....
Johnny and then don’t explain yourself or contribute to the discussion 🤦♂️
XSR900 is the best performance in retro standard bike of this category. No matter you pick up, CB650R/1000R, XSR700/900 or Z900RS or even CB11000 for vintage engine feel, they are good choices. These bikes are reliable and reasonably priced compared to Triumph. You are going to enjoy the low cost of service for the Japanese bikes after tons of miles.