Why I Keep My Mouth Shut About The Street Triple...
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This is probably one of the most recognizable street bikes and I never talk about it. Today I'm going to show you why I keep my mouth shut about the Triumph Street Triple
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Also, quick correction. I goofed up when I said the first Speed Triple was a 1050, it was an 885cc. The 1050 was from 94-04
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If you could choose only one bike between the CBR 600 F4 and the triumph, which would it be?
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@romie6466 I'd take my F4i all day.
Your problem with perfection certainly explains your love of chinese bikes😂
The funny thing about Chinese bikes is seeing the same gear switches on aliexpress or trying to make sense of the some of the language....in that sense they have a lot of character. In terms of rider excitement they're usually pretty boring
@@chrispekel5709I mean you might get excited for something in your bike failing. Not the good kind though.
@@bulthaosen1169 The excitement of not knowing if your bike is going to get you to your destination is too gnarly for me.
Best comment here 😅
@@derp195 Most reliable bike I've had is Chinese LOL
I’ve never understood this mindset that a good bike is a boring bike. It seems insane to me. I like bikes that are reliable, do exactly what I tell them to, and are smooth and sleek.
sounds like you need yourself a MT09 SP or Duke 890 R :)
@@Ethylmorph I have a BMW F850GS at the moment.
When I watch these types of reviews saying the bike is too perfect, power is too linear etc all I hear in translation is “any bike that doesn’t make me feel like I might die is boring”.
not in spite's case - it's too spicy for his skills - probably never gets the tires up to temp.
@@flip_motoexactly not a bland bike just a bland rider
Having once owned one as my only transport for 2 years....they get boring, I'm sure most bikes would in fairness but repetitive amazing performance has its limits (either the standard moves higher).
@@Maxim0W0lfwell considering these are one of the best canyon carvers you can buy off a show room floor explains why it was boring to commute with. I have an engine swapped Crx on wide tires that is manual everything. It's an absolute blast to drive when I want to. But it's a terrible daily and I wouldn't dream of commuting it to work daily. It would be boring and terrible
All it means is he has ridden something more suited to his riding before, and this isn't it. Some bikes are fun just commuting. Others need to be pushed in real twisties. Some are awesome 8+hours into a tour on a new road.
This is the problem with reviewers after many bikes, the flaws become character while perfection is boring.
This is 100% true. When watching reviews, you need to take into account reviewer and their baises. I try to be transparent with mine.
@@spitescorner He was criticizing you, mate...
@@ricardolourizela5961 So? He's right. I have bias because I've ridden almost every single production motorcycle from big manufacturers from the last ten years. Most people haven't.
Hi Spite, I suspect you already knew this, but here in England, roads generally have lots of corners and aren't very straight. Also, you need the handling to avoid all the potholes. I.e. It's not built for the USA.
Your's sincerely,
An Englishman
My thoughts exactly 😂 I'd be bored out of my mind as well riding their version of "twisties"
@@casterofchaos Anywhere in the Rocky mountains or west of it has fantastic roads
@chrispekel5709 haha granted, I was being a little facetious 😅 but he doesn't ever really ride anywhere I'd consider twisty to be fair...
@@chrispekel5709 yes, but do you have our incredible potholes?
@@loztagain8278 Plenty of potholes. The road outside my house has been dug up for the past 3 weeks while they completely resurface it, it having gone way beyond a joke. When I'm in Dallas I wish I was on my Tiger 1200 rather than in my GTI because the suspension tries it's best to destroy my car. As for twisties, they are here but not really close and the good ones are full of traffic at the weekends. I'm guessing this guy is in the Hill country around Austin. Anywhere that looks like fun has double solid lines up the middle, just in case you want to enjoy your ride too much. There's not too many A6006s, A68s or A93s around here. Road surfaces have a very high stone content due to the extreme temperatures so grip levels are extremely low, especially if it's raining.
I have a 2021 RS (as seen in my pfp) and it’s everything I want in a street bike. Perfect amount of power, handling that makes me feel like a better rider than I am, great sound, great looks, comfortable yet aggressive ergos, brembo brakes, fully adjustable suspension, up and down quick shifter, and more. And I got it for an insane deal. $10,900 out the door.
What about the shift lever, is it weird like in the video? 9:27
Everything else he says in the video is meaningless, but that shifter feel would actually annoy me given other bikes I've owned feel solid there.
@@ZANGI3F I have no issues with mine. It has a very positive, obvious “pop” when you shift up or down. Not spongy or vague at all.
@@MuddyTubMedia But that extra movement after it's already in gear?
Yeah, i agree with you its a great bike. The only thing that throws me off is the looks... The googly eyes really bother me lol. But legendary bike nonetheless
@@ZANGI3Fnope, nothing like that in my experience. It feels great
Let me tell you, I can’t help but take the smile off my face every time I swing a leg over my Street Triple.
Is that sarcasm? 😆
This has got to be the worst review of a Street Triple on UA-cam
I dunno lol, he basically gushes over it. "It's a perfect bike! I don't want a perfect bike!"
I fucking love my striple, but it really feels wasted on anything besides twisties or the track.
@bukinnear I test rode the Striple RS back-to-back against the MT-09 SP, the Duke 890R and the Ducati Monster, and found that the RS easily had the best gearbox of the three, as well as suspension and power. It's also a lot better looking than the MT-09 or the Duke.
@@Alex_mkIIword
@@isaaccruel3994I also am a str owner 2018 and smoked a mt09 couple days ago idk if he just wast good at riding but yeah I whipped him off the line like bad
@@Alex_mkII You're lucky you got one that was assembled correctly. My Street Triple R had the worst suspension of any bike I'd ever ridden, including a 99 Ninja 250 that was running on one cylinder.
Me and my 2024 street triple RS respectively disagree. Naked bikes aren’t about highway cruising. I love the looks and refinement. It’s as fun as can be listening to that triple howl. 😎👍❤️
So, you are going to complain about the street triples insectoid headlights but won't mention the Yamaha's projector box headlight at all? That doesn't seem fair.
Totally agree. Most people complain about Street Triple's headlights but won't mention how boring and weird new MT models look, specially 2017-18 models. I may be biased cause I own one, but I really love the Triple's mantis eyes, very different from what we are used to see.
@@SHIIFUTO I myself also think the front of the street triple is it's least appealing feature. But the Yamaha just isn't any better.
The headlights are definitely either you love them or hate them. For all the people complaining about how ugly they look, I think they're awesome. And the wasp/mantis comparisons also come into play, Google a top down image of a Street Triple and it is VERY smooth and tapered like a hornet or wasp.
I own a MT09 SP and think the front ends of both bikes looks bad. The 765 headlights weirdly sticks out almost separated from the bike. His criticism was focused more on the engine character of the 765. In that department the MT09 CP3 engine is a gem.
@@SHIIFUTO For me Street Triple is the best looking naked. Headlights resemble Mantis shrimp eyes)
I think naked bikes design is complicated topic since they lack perfect sportbike shape and are always some kind of industrial design with all the bits on a display.
That hornets nest has been KICKED 🤣
I dont understand what you mean by lack of character, while it isnt super rowdy like the MT09 is, the way it goes from its light whistle to SCREAMING in the twisties is iconic. It also doesnt help that the bike feels way more at home in twisties/canyons/mountains rather than straight streets or highway. If that makes up majority of your riding and you dont do track days, Id probably recommend some other bikes as well.
This must be the most paradoxical motorcycle review I've seen in a couple of years 😄
"its too perfect. its boring because it has no character or flaws." "The gearbox is flawed and its buzzy on the highway. The instrument cluster is bad and the headlight is ugly" ok.
Imperfect bikes: "This bike sucks, it's flawed." Perfect bikes: "This bike sucks, it's boring." No bike can win.
To be fair, Triumph designed this as a narrow focused machine, the solid handling and the smooth power delivery gives you precise control in the twisties. If you have the funds the STR can be your sports car experience and you can have a different bike for touring/commuting.
I cross shopped the Street Triple and MT-09. I eventually decided on the street triple for a variety of reasons, both in the overall fit and finish and i actually like what was described as lacking character. I like how it does exactly what i want, when i tell it to, how i tell it to. I enjoy wringing it out too, the MT-09 is absolutely a beast but i personally like the more sporty experience of the street triple
Same here. I was absolutely dead set on buying the 2024 MT-09 SP and called all dealers around me to put me on the waiting list. After months watching videos and comparing the Street Triple and MT-09, I decided on the ST. I currently own an MT-07, and while it's an awesome bike, it's clearly budgeted around the engine. Smoothness is last on the order of importance for the MT's. It just left me wanting something more premium and less (hooligany?). The ST is exactly that, from the top-notch build quality, throttle smoothness, premium spec components, and of course the looks and eye-catching color options. I really dig the updated headlight with the twin strip LED's on the ST. It looks mean and aggressive compared to the older models. There's no doubt in my mind it's the better bike, unless low-down torque is on top of your needs list. Everything else, the ST does better. Picking up my Carnival Red RS next week and couldn't be more excited. I've never heard anyone regret buying a Street Triple.
I can’t afford a striple. That being said I absolutely love my fz09 especially coming from an fz07. Still want a striple forsure though
@@dextroustrout9531 it's definitely an expensive bike if you get the RS like I did. It was actually several thousand dollars above what I considered the top of my budget, but the dealership threw the keys at me after I test rode the bike I went to look at and from minute two I was absolutely hooked and had to have it.
I haven't seen or rode a Street Triple in person, but I can say I have been on a '23 MT-09 SP and I did not love the small dash, riding position, or cheapish feeling buttons and switches. Build quality felt just OK. That said, awesome bike for sure 😃
I strongly disagree. I had a 2018 Street Triple 765 (RIP), that I loved. That thing was so damn fun. I am still tempted to purchase another one, but I do not have the room. I also took it up from San Diego to Monterey. It's not a touring bike, but it is so much fun.
I had so much fun riding the very model you're talking about that it inspired me to finally part ways with what was my favorite motorcycle ever, my Vitpilen 701. So, yeah I think it's safe to say it's got a ton of personality.
The problem with discussing 'character' is that it almost always becomes an abstract, philosophical discussion. One could argue that 'linear and smooth' is a most desirable characteristic. Great vid, just my 2 cents.
What makes a race bike fast and a street bike fun may not be the same things.
@@elevationmoto6208racing is fun too and racing bike on street is definitely better
I think you kind of explained it while on the highway. The bike isn't made for going straight, it's meant to carve in twisty roads. Yes, an MT will do the twisties just fine for us mortals, but even us mortals can tell the difference on curves between the two.
So, if your rides mainly contains straight highway miles or city streets, get the MT all day. But if you have a fun twisty commute, the 765 is your bike.
And if the headlights are that big of a deal, you're not riding the bike, you're off of it watching it.
This video seems like it was designed to be controversial solely for views.
"Wrong tool for the job" but "does everything so well". Normally think you have decent input but this was a contrived take. Reviewers tend to want to be excited with "character" once they've come to realize they aren't owning a bike and just need a brief reason to become excited.
Amen. That’s why I love my Buell. Why I loved my Guzzis.
And why I have no desire to own a Honda street bike aside from my 25 year old VFR.
The chicken strips on the rear tire are pretty self explanatory 😂
Street Triple has always been one of my dream bikes... even the older 675... I will have one someday
I had an older 675 version. What a bike!
Well that was interesting. 13mins of Spite explaining how he doesn't satisfy his lovers
I do work for triumph so I'm potentially bias here but the RS is 100% worth the upgrade. Power wise theyre more or less the sane, but for that extra cash you get much better fully adjustable suspension, better brakes, and essentially a few factory accessories that everyone gets anyway like bar end mirrors, belly pan, seat cowl etc. Theyre both great bikes, but the RS does get much more bang for buck than the R. Love from AUS ❤
Looking to upgrade to a STR. Which year models are the best & which year models to avoid? On a $12K AUD budget, thanks
@tremolony4924 they only make the 765r/rs new anymore. If you're on your full licence or going onto it, then you can pick up the older 675 striples for less than 12 (give you wiggle room for mods, roady etc). Up to 2017 they had cable throttles and the older gen look. My personal favourite generation due to the throttle response but 2017 onwards is an objectively "better bike"
@tremolony4924 also, if you're on your restricted licence, any of the 660 street triples are awesome, especially when derestricted 😉
@@jamesstephenson3733 Thanks for the insights bro! Those derestricted 660s look absolutely absurd 😀
@tremolony4924 trust me, they are 😆
Yea street triple is probably "better" bike but damm if that mt09 dosent make you laugh like a joker i dont know what does
Yup... Any MT bike is a hoot to ride
I've had plenty of fun on MT09s but I genuinely enjoy the new Striples more. Maybe that will change if I get to ride the new MT09 though.
Duke 890r
Exactly this. The STR takes itself more seriously and is more sporty, but the MT07 and 09 are amazing hooligan fun
Yea and you could get the sp for the same price as the triple
Guessing you would be a fan of a street triple with a bad map on it. Just surges of power. The linear power is one of the best things about it when filtering/ commuting. I know that isnt a thing in the states, but accross europe its a pro.
I love my 2020 Striple. It handles by telepathy. The perfect tool for connecting rider to speed. And it's comfortable to ride all day.
If it lacks character, I don't think I want character.
I had a bmw 1200rs and this was the exact same problem. So refined I often felt like I wasn't on a motorcycle anymore and got bored.
I had a Street Triple 765, before I had a BMW R1200RS. The BMW bored me too. I cannot stand keyless entry. The Triple was just so much fun.
Dude, I test rode the R1250RS last year and had the same experience. It was simply too good, predictable, smooth, plenty of power and great brakes. It was just too refined for my taste, and I own a couple of Triumphs.
I had a BMW 1200R and I know what you mean. It was boring because it felt like there was no threat of losing control at any point.
Spite quick question. MT09 or MT07 for first naked bike? I already own an R3 and GSX-R1000R and I want a naked bike that I can whip around and still have reasonable power. Is the MT09 as sensitive on the throttle as my 1000?
As with everything, a bike is subjective. I've wanted a Street Triple for a long time, and ironically its the first modern bike i've owned and been able to afford! My last bike, was a classic Yamaha Fazer FZS600, from the year 2000. This bike was more than the sum of its parts, and the upright riding position from that transfers over to my 2022 765 Street Triple RS. You have to work the gearbox somewhat, and while the power delivery is linear, just hold off that gear change for a moment and let the bike scream, you'll feel that exhilarating power kick in. There is a definite linear increase as the revs rise. Its fun and can give a nice boost out of a corner. Handling wise, the brakes are superb, with lots of grip and feel, although the rear brake is maybe a little too soft, its very forgiving when you just want a touch of speed shaved off. The bikes flickability is great and the chasse feeds back everything you need from the road. It flicks like my old CBR 400RR (NC23) did in fact, pretty good going when its 40kg heavier!
Plenty of power on tap when you need it and the quick shifter/blipper works well, especially on down shifts.
The bike has its issues, fuel tank is small, wind noise and buffeting without a fairing, but hey, its a naked, part of the experience.
You can fit a screen though. Yes, my Triple is also set up for touring, I can attach luggage and can attest that its comfortable enough for this and is far more fun than a lumbering sports tourer! But I can only afford one bike, so it had to do everything and it turns out it can.
Sure, on UK pot hole ridden roads, the suspension can feel harsh, but even then, the bike handles well. Give it a nice twisty road with good surface and its so much fun to ride.
Its not a perfect bike, it has its quirks, but its so much fun and ticks all the boxes, I can forgive it for having some issues.
Now Triumph, where is the front USB kit, for my bar mounted action camera power!
The Street Triple is the benchmark of this genre. I've been using a 2014 model 675 R since 2016. It's brilliant on twisty roads. Its light, agile plus all the superlatives you used... But!, it is boring on a straight road, plus the constant drone from the engine irritates after a short while...Fortunately l live in España where we Bikers are blessed with some great twisty mountain roads..... Motociclistas, el Ultimo de los Espiritus Libres.
Respectfully, I disagree. I own an original Speed Triple from 1993, and it's the speed triple that I think has actually gone backwards a bit. The STriple is a wonderful machine, ESPECIALLY on the track. If you want pure soul in a bike this size, then look for a twin not a triple. I agree that the triple engine has become so smooth that it's easy to confuse as too refined, but for me its a perfectly balanced Moto on the street and the track, but that's just me.... You do you.
He does say it's just his opinion at the end. He's purposefully making the titles a bit argumentative to get views. But can't blame him it's a job!
I always loved how Triumph transmissions and gear shifters have felt… way nicer than a lot of bikes I’ve ridden. odd take.
Biggest problem with the Striple is that it's TOO perfect. What we call "character" is actually just interesting imperfections. Iron those out, and what you're left with is an fast, excellent handling motorcycle with awesome specs that doesn't give you the fizz.
Said in two sentences what it took me 14 minutes say... But THING NUMBER 6 WILL SHOCK YOU!
It's funny because that's how I felt about the z900se when I was riding it. It felt too tame and wanted to go straight more than anything. I was actually a bit bored on my test ride compared the the Triple I rode just an hour before it on the same road. Turned around early, went and purchased the street Triple because the 3cyl just felt so raw in comparison. I'll also mention, the z900 has an Sc project exhaust, the street Triple was stock and still sounded better
But it’s really ugly. Uglier than anything out there. Triumph 🤮
@@ChrisScales17 there’s something intoxicating about the sound of a triple.
@@RestlessMule people think my bike is supercharged because it's whistle while idling 😂 but I agree, a large part of the reason I bought it was the sound. I have a factory arrow with baffle removed now
Hello. Can you tell me what is the mount you have for the camera in the helmet? Thanks. ✌️
How do you find the size? Do you find it small overall?
Wow, Spite. I agree with you wholeheartedly! In fact, I came to essentially the same conclusions just last month when I visited Austin for the MotoGP races. I rented a local guy’s XSR 900 and had a BLAST riding it around parts of the eastern Hill Country. That engine is so fun and SOUNDS so good that it almost made traffic bearable. Then I took a demo ride on a Street Triple RS and was blown away at how sorted it was! It was so planted that I was able to do things on the demo ride that I had never done before just because the bike was SO good! and the brakes and brake feel? OMG. O.M.G.
The smoothness of the throttle was something i’ve never felt on any other bike. It changed my understanding of what is possible, gave me maybe a teeny insight into why the Moto2 racers now are going as fast as the two stroke 500 MotoGP racers back in the day. The Street Triple is ABSOLUTELY the bike I would want to ride in the mountains, BUT… as good as the engine was, I kept thinking, “This is a triple. Maybe it would sound good with a straight pipe and good muffler. Why isn’t it fun like Yamaha CP3?”
The mid-range rush and roar of the Yamaha are so satisfying! If the new MT-09 SP or the XSR 900 have improved handling even a little over 2018 model I rode in Austin, THAT is a very strong candidate for next bike due to the all-around experience. When I hear that engine and feel that torque, I think: THAT is how I want riding to make me feel.
I agree with two things, a new ST3 R/RS should have cruise control, and the ST3 R should have the analog dial tach. I disagree with almost everything else though relating to character…but hey that’s just me, I’m pretty sure there are bikes Spite would find characterful that I would find bland.
After uve ridden a few miles and 2-300 bikes, its all about the character of the bike and how it makes u smile. As badass as my zx14r and turbo-busa are, my xs1100 and gs750L (w apes and bags) r still my favorites. W their carbureted shennanigans n piss poor mpgs. They do nothing great, but theyre a blast to ride the whole time.
I want my xs1100 running again 😩
I'm curious about your opinion on the honda xr650l since you have a KLR. When can we get a video comparison of the two
The Honda is an old school, barebones dirtbike with high ground clearance that does the street well.
The klr is a road bike, heavier, better highway tourer that can do dirt.
In short dual sport vs adv bikes, whats your goal? Long miles or more technical miles?
Personally I would get the xr650R ;)
Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
I have a 22 R and absolutely love it. Feels like an SV650 on steroids.
I test rode this exact bike back to back with an '23 XSR 900.
The CP3 engine had more personality, kicks up the front wheel easier and leaves an stronger overall initial impression. But after getting on the side of the tire on both bikes the Striple won me over.
Totally agree that it has a very bland flavor when pottering around, but I really like that its extra chill and easy to get along with around town. However any and all problems and niggles all evaporate as soon as I find any curvy road. It is just so damn good.
Nice review! What's the rider height?
765 r is 118hp at 11,500 rpm 59lbs/feet at 9500 rpm... 765 rs is 128hp at 12,000 rpm 59lbs/feet at 9500rpm. Wet weight 415 lbs. Power to weight ratio 0.31. MT09 is 117hp and 69lbs/feet with 425 lbs wet weight. Power to weight ratio of 0.275. So triumph is more nimble and has better power to weight ratio... yammie is heavier, underpowered but has more torque. Guess it just depends on what floats your boat! But the rs would definitely float mine! Just get rid of the original exhaust put a full titanium line and voilà!
The Striple is the best bike. I had a 2019 765 RS with an ex project can, and boy it sounded nice. It had tons of character . And yes it sucks on the freeway but that's not what I bought it for. I have never ridden a bike where I was as comfortable as I was on the striple
I mean maybe I’m just coping with my new purchase, but to me the striple RS has way more character than the mt-09
I love my STRS, it has character. This is his opinion on his character preference, and I have mine. Funny how he says flaws make character and that this bike has no flaws, then goes on to list several flaws he found, lol, so which one is it?
@@ReefHeaterI also own str 2018 and compared to mt09 str is much more refined power and in my opinion just a better quality finish all around
Rhett Shull made this same point with PRS guitars... so perfect there's no inspiration. You know, in case anyone was wondering...
Perfect bike. Owned two, the S and the RS. As you say, bike perfection. Absolutely love the headlights. The finish is 1st class and the price quality relation is among the best in the market. Sold my RS with a cry but I needed a bike more travel oriented and could not afford keeping two. But I can say I had a Street Triple, in its category of price, quality, looks and performance probably the best Sport naked around.
When the MT09 finally uses Brembo brakes outside of their SP variation
It is refreshing to see you reviewing the experience and not hyper focused on stats and top speed. I find it amusing that in present times we have such categories of bikes and distinctions such as "great in the twisties" or "a good commuter". I can remember when there were only two categories, street and dirt. I still think Yamaha and Kawasaki make the best "ride it everywhere" bikes. I have been enjoying your adventure and frustrations with the VMAX, I have been down that road many times with the max, I would have wanted to check 2nd gear before taking on that much "weather" on a max.
Great review and explanation. 👌🏽
My new and first motorbike, 2023 Street triple RS in carbon black, gives me the feeling of ME more then any other bike I’ve checked out previously. Is it the most comfortable? No. But it’s quite comfortable for a sporty naked bike. The light weight and easy, sharp maneuverability actually caught my interest most. Then the engine with its wide powerband. It’s got grunt but not overwhelming amounts that make slow, tight turns questionable. Lean into the throttle hard around 5000 and the smooth power builds fast. Then I notice the strong brakes, yet not overly touchy. I have confidence trail braking my turns. And lastly, after all that, I see how sleek yet still individual the styling is. It’s not overly done, and still incorporates nice rounds features.
All in all, this bike delivers. Period. I don’t want more, and I’m not looking for less.
I just had this issue. I owned a 675R and loved it. Wanted to get back into something similar and was looking at the 765RS. Ended up going with the MT09 SP. I think overall I prefer the triumph but by the time I add cruise control (which isn’t standard on the triumph) it was a good bit more expensive to get the 765RS. While I love the MT09s torque and ergos and the fun factor, I think overall I prefer the triumph for how serious it is and it personally looks better. Don’t regret my decision but it is hard to argue for the Triumph with everything you get on the Yamaha for the money. Great video!
The insect headlights are really annoying. A single round headlight and half fairing would have been very cool 😎
No mention of the linked brakes? What was your experience with them?
The brakes are race track good….I can attest.
How's the comparison between the RS version and the Duke 890R?
Most stock bikes are corked up these days. I even thought a new xsr900 was boring compared to my older modded one. Put a pipe and tune in these new bikes and they come alive.
The 2013 Street Triple was my first bike and I love it. As a little guy it’s very comfortable to ride and reach the ground yet had enough oomph to keep it and grow as a rider than starting on a smaller sized engine and getting bored. Hoping to get another one and build it into a track bike because the handling is superb.
I just got a 2019 indian ftr 1200 s and I absolutely love it. I know you think the 19 18 wheels are too much of a compromise but it feels really great to me. Plus I got a killer deal on it. It's not perfect as a canyon carver. It's not a great cruiser. It's not a great adventure bike. But it's perfect for me
It's good to hear both sides on these sort of arguments, what you may not like may be perfect for others and vice versa
I LOVED my striple…. Your points track, but honestly I would buy another one without hesitation.
the RS has substantial suspension improvement for Sport Canyon riding and/or Track Day outings!
I swapped my Thunderbird 900 triple for a Thunderbird sport 900 triple. My experience went from comfortable with inadequate brakes to somewhat uncomfortable lower half with slightly more than adequate breaks. This street triple reminds me more of the T-Bird sport with two decades of improvements.
I have a street triple RS. And I generally agree to some extent. But what I can tell you is, I'm not that young any more. I had an R1 in the very late 90's and now that I'm in my 40's I like that my street triple makes my ride so dead easy. The leg position is aggressive but I don't find it uncomfortable. I do feel like at least my bike has a personality. But the personality is more cold and calculated than many other bikes. I completely agree on the headlights and replaced them with a single LED unit that makes the bike look amazing. I love mine. But that's me.
It is important to keep in mind when watching these that it is just someone's opinion. When it comes down to it, it really depends on what type of ride you prefer.
When he mentions how much torque it has and the power is so linear, I feel like that would make the bike better.
Everyone praises the MT07 for having so much torque and being so much fun, but I had that bike and all I wished for was that the power was more linear. I liked the power, but when getting to a stop often I always found myself asking why so much power at low end? It made the bike a bit jerky at low speeds, making me wish for a more linear power.
I ride an MT09 now and it has an ECU flashed with a two brothers exhaust.
It has a ton of torque and a more linear power than the MT07, which to me is just way better.
I had a 2018 765 RS and sold it for almost the reasons you dont like about it. Being 5'6" it fit me great. The handling and suspension were awesome The engine has no character,,feels like a electric motor.
I only enjoy twisty roads so I replaced it with a 2018 KTM 690 Duke. I have been ridding 62 years and cant remember how many I have owned.
Being 80 now I needed a light bike that I could up right on my own. The KTM is the most entertaining and pure fun I have ever owned. The engine is a Jewel!
My back ground is I was a AMA Expert Flat Tracker and Road Racer At 80 I still have fire in my belly.
The older I get (65yrs), The longer I ride (49yrs), The more I appreciate my 91 to 03 Honda CB750 Nighthawks with GIVI bags and trunk, and Rifle fairing. It's not as good at all out touring as a Goldwing, Not as good at all out twisty roads riding as my Hornet 919, Not as good at cruising as a dedicated cruiser, not as good at all out off-road but does great on secondary gravel and dirt roads with an adventure tire up front. It's just one of those Goldilocks bikes. Maybe the speed triple should have a sporty seating position, and the street triple should have a standard seating position. Lower pegs, taller handlebars, more padding on the seat; And now you have an actual street triple.
This vs MT09 vs FTR carbon R, which is more fun? I have a carbon R but might trade it in early next year and these bikes are on my radar.
I have a 2024 765 RS. It needs different rearsets. The shoe saver on the shifter is problematic when really getting after it. I also think the bars a touch too tall when riding aggressive.
I agree the Street Triple is just a little too refined of a ride, and the engine is a little buzzy for around town riding. Last year I was deciding between the ST and a Street Cup, since most of my riding is city riding, I ended up going with the more characterful Street Cup. I may still buy an older Triple eventually as a second bike...
I get your point. I've been playing with sports tourers for a while I went from a VFR800 (I never was happy with the suspension), to a BMW R1250RS (great bike, did everything well but missed some playful character) to now on a KTM Super Duke GT. That KTM does have its flaws, but what a joy to ride.
What jacket are you wearing Spite? I need that in my life
Proud owner of an '05 Speed Triple. These are fantastic, and I'd happily buy a second used Speed Triple before I bought a new Street Triple.
Nothing against the Street, but there's something so special about the Speed.
I had a 2017 765R and I called it the iPhone. It worked and everything was flawless and when I parked it, I never looked back at it. Funnily enough the 2017 version came with the excellent TFT dash and they took it away later. It also had a different cam profile for more torque lower down. Anyway I swapped it for an R nineT and a 999S.
Good vid mate, Oz.
I had an MT--09 and a Street Triple 675. In both cases, an exhaust makes a huge different in the grin factor. With that said, the grin factor to me was greater on the MT-09, it was also more comfortable, but that howling 675 was fun as well :) If everyone was looking for the same thing in a bike, we'd only need one brand and one model.
I think some of the data is out of date anyway... the RS has 10 more HP than the R... for a start. Then... I'm not sure about your riding style anyway. You shouldn't ride on your toes, especially if you're riding 'sporty' as you need access to both the rear brake and the gears without needing to replace your feet all the time. It could also be argued that no bikes are comfortable on highways. Even adventure and sport touring bikes get achy and painful... You also criticise the headlights, have you seen the lights on the 09 or 07? The lack fo cruise control on one of their premium bikes is a bit negative but that is about the only one that I can see really, it's even cheaper than the 09 too.
I can't comment on the Street Triple R. But your observation of the foot pegs is spot on. My experience started with 2020 Street Triple RS and the upgraded to the 2024 Moto 2 limited in 2023. I will say this the higher up in the model, you get the more refined the machine becomes. After feeling the difference between the 2020 RS and the 2024 Moto2. There is a night and day difference. I could only imagine what the difference in ride feel if I knew what an R model felt like. The RS was my first bike. I bought it a few days before my MSF class. What I've noticed is that it is frequently compared to MT09, MT10, KTM 890. That says a lot for a 765 triple. Credit where credit is due it is an unbelievable machine.
I have owned many motorcycles over the years and my favorite is The Street Triple 765. If you ever wanna smile from ear to ear, go ride one.
I currently ride a 2016 ST Rx. I love it. Daily it in warmer months. also replaced the headlights with a single round. To me, that’s what it needs. Great bike.
My minor complaints about the excellent Street Triple would keep me from buying one also. I've ridden one. It is fun. But not my bag either. It's great, but there are too many excellent options that suit me better. This review seemed genuine, which is exactly what we should all want out of motorcycle journalism. Keep callin' 'em as you see 'em Spite.
All of those “perfections” you hate are all of the same reasons you should try the 675. Same bike, just without all of the killjoys (and a little less power).
I live in ATX. Wouldn’t mind if you wanted to swing a leg over mine sometime.
Loved the video. Keep it up homie.
My 2018 765 has one of the best transmissions in terms of feel and positive engagement I've used (and I've owned dozens of bikes). Did they radically change the latest model? Tons of engine character (high-end rush). Amazing sound. Other than the aggressive footpeg placement, I don't know what this guy is talking about. First time I've seen one of his videos. If his take is this far off on something I'm familiar with, not sure about ever watching another.
Oh well. To each their own.
Another banger Spite!
I agree with you about the decision of spending money on the Yamaha triple. In 2016 I was cross shopping the 675rx and the xsr900. There was just something special about the XSR and it is what I eventually chose. 8 years and 16k miles later and my XSR still brings me the same joy as it did on the test ride.
The Daytona 675 is still one of the best, and most fun bikes I own. Sold my 600rr, 636 and 04 Zx10r and kept this one through the years.
I love how yam dropped a Vmaxx video and Spite dropped a Dunkin on triumph video within the same day 🤣
Well to be fair, I didn't dunk on the striple. It's awesome, but not for me.
I really appreciate the realistic and (unfortunately usually controversial) blunt reviews that sometimes just have to say that new things are just not always better than the old ones. I too have ridden one of these new street triples, and as a user experience, it just does not compare to my 2004 GSXR in terms of rider feel and feedback. The old school mechanical feel of the old bike is just so good and responsive, and the new modern and super mushy feeling of all the electronic stuff they put on new bikes is just so boring and bad feeling, yet somehow still kinda fast.
Motorcycle companies need to know that these "perfection" chased motorcycles with electronics and features run amuck are just not as interesting or as good!
Keep up the real reviews and videos!
You can definitely put a round headlight on it, the scoop is just a plastic hole. (and does it ever improve the looks!)
I live in Europe, and I own a Yamaha XSR900 2022+. Roads here are different, even highways have turns. I stand by the fact that the Street Triple RS is technically the best bike in the segment. Still, user dependent scenario the XSR was fit for my purpose.
I gather the RS is meant for a more mature riding style, the MT09 still has a motard-y vibe which still scratches the itch for a few squid moments. I test rode all bikes in the segment, the R model felt like it has been purposefully "cheaped" as a marketing decision to push the RS a little more. But really, the RS is the thing.
old 90s 500cc gp bikes was more spicey/fun than current motogp bikes.
I never understood this... its got so much character for me, especially the new one constantly wants to play and take corners at silly lean. But maybe we just have more fun roads here that really highlight how good the ST is?
I pulled the trigger on the 2024 street triple RS.... I was actually going to just get the R, but the yellow makes the bike IMO.... I actually love the look of the bike and never really cared for the MT-09. The bike is so easy to ride, and I love how perfect it is. Both my bikes are purely for fun as I dont have a traditional daily commute to work. We'll see if i ever get bored with time, but i dont believe i will.
I've always thought that the Street Triple needed a half-fairing and a belly pan, it would do wonders for the looks, because from the side the bike looks like ET! Triumph should take a leaf out of Aprilia's book and have a good look at the Tuono V4, it's absolutely stunning. A half-fairing and a belly pan would also add some weather protection and help with the aerodynamics.
I felt this way about the VFR750. The Ducati Supersport 950 reminds me of the VFR in the sense of being an old man's sportbike (comfortable) except: That engine! It's SO begging to be ridden. Bloody marvellous.
Great content! Not one Street Triple is aimed to be a single motorcycle in your garage. it is typically a 2nd or 3rd bike, for fun.
I'm of the mind that the middleweight naked category of bikes don't need cruise control, but price creep is really affecting the class. There are so many options that are starting well into the 5-figure range, and at that price I better have cruise control. This bike is arguably the best in the middleweight naked category, but it lacks certain features in my mind to justify the price over the other options. Just go back a year or two and you can get some seriously cheap bikes that offer performance close enough to this bike within 4 figures (or just barely 5 figures out the door of a dealership). It's in this weird position where a dilemma occurs: Why not buy other bikes that do what it does well enough for much cheaper, or go up in displacement and get more features for not that much more money. As a result, for me there is no reason to look closely at this bike as an option - there are middleweight nakeds that are better value, and there are full-size nakeds with better performance for not that much more. Add to that the ugly headlight assembly and I really have no interest. I cannot and will not doubt everyone's praise of the bike, but it has no place in my garage.