Drop it in near boiling water. Staff will straighten right out. It bends in transit but it will want to return to it's original shape if it gets heated up. I leave my hero forge minins in my car durring summer. Fixes any bind they have.
@@justinbraungardt7168 It's not painted, it's literally printed in full colour. Years ago Blizzard had a deal with a company that would 3D colour print your WoW Characters. There was a video that showed the process; in theirs it was what looked like a vat of white powder, the laser would work through layer by layer and at the end all of the excess powder was removed to reveal a batch of completed figures.
They use an Inkjet style color printer that uses inked plastic and then lasers them together. Its a powdery substance thus why it leaves that finish The exact printer is a Mimaki 3DUJ-553 I print miniatures for people all the time and have printed around 30 miniatures that came from Heroforge, I also offer painting services. So seeing both a bad quality print and a horrible coloring jobs just upsets me cause for me to Print and handpaint a miniature for someone I would probably charge at minimum 1/3rd less than what they do for a hand-painted miniature
@@kessler5902 Yeah, shoot me a message on my Facebook page facebook.com/B143DP I have pictures of some of the models I've printed that have been painted on there
The manufacturer is clear that the color printed minis are more fragile than regular minis. Acting like you didn't know this to begin with is either disingenuous or incompetent. There are also quite a few other reviews on UA-cam that say the same thing as the manufacturer. Caveat Emptor! I just got my first colored mini from Heroforge and it looks like a product that is first generation tech. I am not disappointed, but I went into the process with my eyes open. You want durable, buy a bronze or steel mini and paint it yourself or get a painting service.
Fragile Plastic, Bends it, Breaks. I agree on the pricing though. 40-50 on them is way too much at that level of flimsy plastic and the lack of details. I think they are okay if you want a colored mini if you can't paint or get it painted. It would be better to get the higher quality plastic or get the steel or bronze and then paint those. The only problem is they cost more for the steel and bronze.
this will happen with most table top game pieces though, plastic can bend in shipping. that's a no brainer, the reason it broke was because he fucked with it too much and it snapped, this happens to most any figure of that size, remember, that staff is thinner or as thin as a tooth pick and instead of heating it up and bending it. or putting a spacer in and letting it warp itself back, he decided to mess with it trying to fix it caveman style. True the price point is high, however this isn't a full scale factory we're talking about here, we're talking about 3D printed minis here. not factory made mass produced figures. every figure is custom to how you made it. and well. color 3D printers and material aren't cheap, if this was WOTC charging $50 for one figure that would be a different story.
Their color miniatures are done with their cheaper plastic instead of the premium plastic. I just recommend ordering the premium plastic and painting it yourself. Practice on some cheap Bones Miniatures until you're confident enough to do the painting on your good stuff.
I mean yeah. it does say that on the website. and yeah, painting them yourself will always give you better color and detail, but it's not like they don't have examples of colored minis on the site.
I kinda assumed that the staff would be bent when I saw ur original design its hard to keep that stuff straight but they should have packed it better knowing that can happen, even a simple foam insert would have saved the print
@@puzzled9012: In my experience, as tempting as it is to bend loose parts like that in the opposite direction, it puts too much wear and tear on the material. The better option is to just store it with spacers to hold the part in place and let it straighten out slowly over time. Actually, I was impressed at just how flexible HeroForge's plastic is. I'd been worried it would be far more brittle and snap almost immediately under any pressure. I know this video was meant as a "warning", but it actually did more to set my mind at ease should I ever decide to get back into table top RPGs and order custom minis of my own.
@@EmeralBookwise Hi, I like your view point on the material. The part did not immediately snap and had some flex to it. I like your idea of storing it with spacers. I have a replacement miniature on its way and will try this method.
@@EmeralBookwise It happens with injection molded Warhammer, too. A little glue, a tooth pick, a lot of patience and surgical precision fix it right up.
Of course it's going to break when you bend the plastic like that. It's not Hero Forge fault that you break your own stuff.. Come on man. giving a bad review because you break it, is not cool man!
Ive bought 5 color minis in the last year. The process has gotten better. However, light colors come washed out or bleached, metallics look (silver) white or yellow (gold). But even my most recent minis have Zero facial detail. I must agree they are not worth 50 bucks. Ive bought the black premium plastic and painted it. The quality on black plastic is ten times better.
Has the quality gotten any better 2 years later? $50 is a lot for a mini that has color on it. If it looked just like what’s on the website I’d feel a little better about it but still
It's a lot smaller than I would expect :/ I don't wanna spend 2 hours making every detail perfect in the editor just to lose it between the couch cushions
There are options for bigger minis on Hero Forge, I believe. Those wont be useable on a standard battlemap grid though (which is the reason those are the size they are.) But if you want it just to have a representation of your character, that certainly would be an option.
Bro...I have at least 5 of these guys made up on HF waiting to hit the button. After this video I'm not purchasing. I love to paint my own minitures and I'm crazy over detailing. I would have been pissed if I didn't stop and find this video. Thanks
My group has gotten a ton of these colored minis and they’ve been great. It’s plastic. Don’t try to bend it. But you’re not just paying for the mini but for the absolute ability to customize. For us, it has always been worth the money.
@@puzzled9012 yeah, commented before I made it to the end of the video... that’s pretty much every plastic miniature, official WizKids ones included. They get a little bent in shipping more often than not. Eldritch Foundry prints theirs in composite reinforced resin with wax supports so they are slightly more clean in their appearance, but... the downside with resin is that the mini will more likely shatter before it bends. You could always try the metal printed option from Hero Forge, but I think that you were reviewing the multi-material full color prints, right? It’s worth the $50 if you want a custom miniature that you can use right out of the box... try the hot water bath technique next time. They have an option to request a free mini to review, maybe if you get in touch with customer support they will send you another print of your order instead of the standard sample mini they send everyone else... but the outcome is always the same if you never ask, so? Wish I would have been a more inquisitive kid back in the day, had plenty of little green army men with bent bazookas or m1-garands that ended up as victims of my Death Ray magnifying glass... ha
I personally prefer to buy the STL files. If a piece breaks, I can just print another for pennies worth of resin. Plus when I paint them, they're going to end up the same quality as everything else I paint, and even now I can't use my old minis on the table because the quality difference today is so vastly superior to 5 years ago when I began.
I think it's unfair to break it off camera and then blame the product when it's obvious you snapped the plastic yourself. And then to use the broken mini as the image in the thumbnail as the "reality" shot.. very dishonest review.
Dishonest?! That has to be a joke. Miniature plastic is supposed to be able to stand up to wear and tear, unless you're one of those freaks who puts every in its own case and never lets anyone touch them. If a little fiddling snaps it, it ain't worth the money. And don't tell me it's because it's thin, I've tried to break thin pieces of plastic before. When it's not garbage, it's not as easy as you think.
I also feel that your color design might have been the issue. They have a whole spectrum of colors and will show you what it looks like when they print it off, usually it’s spot on to what the real thing will look like. You can obviously tell that the color changes, so if you want that color scheme again maybe go for a brighter color of that same color you had. It took me four different try’s to get my mini right, and I am extremely satisfied with it. Just saying but painting a Druid halfling with detailed dragon eyes is not something I want to ruin myself, I’ll let the 3D printer get that done.
Legit the minis I have seen lately compared to this video 2 years ago, and it’s night and day. I recommend purchasing another colored mini now. Also maybe get a mini that doesn’t look like an Indian skeleton. Things that are huge I do agree, buy premium paint yourself, but something small say a halfling they come out really nice and extremely detailed.
Anyone who knows even just a little about 3d printers will tell you this looks great and its colored, it would take me days to color something like this. Also why record in 720p when your trying to show the quality of a product... Also plastic breaks when you bend it, grow up.
The material that they use is dog I put one in my backpack and I was going to bring it to school to show my friend btw I was very careful with it and when I opened my bag the dude's legs were both snapped off
I mean... don't want to be rude but..... Mini's aren't that durable? especially 3D printed Minis. there's a reason it's shipped in a box, in bubble wrap. maybe don't toss it in a backpack full of heavy books?
It's almost like it's a miniature or something. this isn't made for boss monsters, this is made for player characters and humanoids. what are you expecting? btw, the average size for a D&D mini. is 25mm so yeah. it's gonna be tiny.
I would suggest not going with the colored miniature. While it's neat, it is a new process, and it is coloring the plastic in the kit. It is MUCH cheaper, and much more durable if you buy it unpainted, and just put the time in yourself. If you have a resin printer, you can buy the model for 10 bucks and print it off as well, that is the cheapest option since resin printers are sub $250 now. If you're looking to spend 50 bucks on one mini, well the investment for the printer is probably the better option, and you can buy the models for dirt cheap on this page. Custom soldier minis? Print out an army~
Drop it in near boiling water. Staff will straighten right out. It bends in transit but it will want to return to it's original shape if it gets heated up. I leave my hero forge minins in my car durring summer. Fixes any bind they have.
Thats a good idea. see my follow up video. the staff is straight in the second video.
Dose the color get washed off from the boiling water?
@@justinbraungardt7168 It's not painted, it's literally printed in full colour. Years ago Blizzard had a deal with a company that would 3D colour print your WoW Characters. There was a video that showed the process; in theirs it was what looked like a vat of white powder, the laser would work through layer by layer and at the end all of the excess powder was removed to reveal a batch of completed figures.
Tries to bend plastic
Breaks plastic: surprised pikachu
lol i know right!
Instead of "the product has broken", try "I broke the product".
hmm, it was bent to start with.
@@puzzled9012 Bent, not broken.
@@jacoobyslaps Watch part 2. I have a non broke one.
@@puzzled9012 yeah. it got warped in shipping because trucks be hot
They use an Inkjet style color printer that uses inked plastic and then lasers them together. Its a powdery substance thus why it leaves that finish
The exact printer is a Mimaki 3DUJ-553
I print miniatures for people all the time and have printed around 30 miniatures that came from Heroforge, I also offer painting services. So seeing both a bad quality print and a horrible coloring jobs just upsets me cause for me to Print and handpaint a miniature for someone I would probably charge at minimum 1/3rd less than what they do for a hand-painted miniature
Do you have a shop or website where you offer your services? I've been pretty disappointed with Hero Forge.
@@kessler5902 Yeah, shoot me a message on my Facebook page facebook.com/B143DP
I have pictures of some of the models I've printed that have been painted on there
Yeah a shop or contact details would be mint:)
The manufacturer is clear that the color printed minis are more fragile than regular minis. Acting like you didn't know this to begin with is either disingenuous or incompetent. There are also quite a few other reviews on UA-cam that say the same thing as the manufacturer. Caveat Emptor! I just got my first colored mini from Heroforge and it looks like a product that is first generation tech. I am not disappointed, but I went into the process with my eyes open. You want durable, buy a bronze or steel mini and paint it yourself or get a painting service.
Fragile Plastic, Bends it, Breaks.
I agree on the pricing though.
40-50 on them is way too much at that level of flimsy plastic and the lack of details. I think they are okay if you want a colored mini if you can't paint or get it painted. It would be better to get the higher quality plastic or get the steel or bronze and then paint those. The only problem is they cost more for the steel and bronze.
this will happen with most table top game pieces though, plastic can bend in shipping. that's a no brainer, the reason it broke was because he fucked with it too much and it snapped, this happens to most any figure of that size, remember, that staff is thinner or as thin as a tooth pick and instead of heating it up and bending it. or putting a spacer in and letting it warp itself back, he decided to mess with it trying to fix it caveman style.
True the price point is high, however this isn't a full scale factory we're talking about here, we're talking about 3D printed minis here. not factory made mass produced figures.
every figure is custom to how you made it. and well. color 3D printers and material aren't cheap,
if this was WOTC charging $50 for one figure that would be a different story.
its cheaper to find a caster in your area and buy the plastic mini, then use the mini as a cast mold to bronze cast it and bring your own bronze.
Mine would be 100 because I layered them for more detail
Their color miniatures are done with their cheaper plastic instead of the premium plastic. I just recommend ordering the premium plastic and painting it yourself. Practice on some cheap Bones Miniatures until you're confident enough to do the painting on your good stuff.
I mean yeah. it does say that on the website. and yeah, painting them yourself will always give you better color and detail, but it's not like they don't have examples of colored minis on the site.
If it's unpainted, how much does one mini cost? Is it still 50 or less?
@@OminousIllustrations its way cheaper unpainted less than 20 bucks
I knewwww that was going to break after I saw you doing that the first time
I know, It was to tempting.
I kinda assumed that the staff would be bent when I saw ur original design its hard to keep that stuff straight but they should have packed it better knowing that can happen, even a simple foam insert would have saved the print
@@puzzled9012: In my experience, as tempting as it is to bend loose parts like that in the opposite direction, it puts too much wear and tear on the material. The better option is to just store it with spacers to hold the part in place and let it straighten out slowly over time.
Actually, I was impressed at just how flexible HeroForge's plastic is. I'd been worried it would be far more brittle and snap almost immediately under any pressure. I know this video was meant as a "warning", but it actually did more to set my mind at ease should I ever decide to get back into table top RPGs and order custom minis of my own.
@@EmeralBookwise Hi, I like your view point on the material. The part did not immediately snap and had some flex to it. I like your idea of storing it with spacers. I have a replacement miniature on its way and will try this method.
@@EmeralBookwise
It happens with injection molded Warhammer, too. A little glue, a tooth pick, a lot of patience and surgical precision fix it right up.
Wow, this was what I needed. thanks for the video. cool miniature!
Thank you, happy to help.
Love how you repeatedly bent a rigid piece of 3d printed plastic on camera and then later on acted like it just broke out of nowhere.
did you see the color preview beforehand?
Heat up the plastic to move it next time....don’t just bend it....lol
That would have been a great idea.
LOL ya that was a bad idea just to bend it.
I mean it's cool. probably wouldn't have broken if you didn't keep bending the staff so thats mostly your fault wouldnt you think?
Yes I Do
The staff broke because you futzed with it too much.
yes
Of course it's going to break when you bend the plastic like that. It's not Hero Forge fault that you break your own stuff.. Come on man. giving a bad review because you break it, is not cool man!
watch the second video. yes I broke it.
Ive bought 5 color minis in the last year. The process has gotten better. However, light colors come washed out or bleached, metallics look (silver) white or yellow (gold). But even my most recent minis have Zero facial detail. I must agree they are not worth 50 bucks. Ive bought the black premium plastic and painted it. The quality on black plastic is ten times better.
I have been thinking about trying it again
@@puzzled9012 In about a week I receive my most recent, a Dragonborn monk. We shall see if his metallic skin comes out good.
Has the quality gotten any better 2 years later? $50 is a lot for a mini that has color on it. If it looked just like what’s on the website I’d feel a little better about it but still
I have heard that it has. would recommended trying it out
@@puzzled9012 I did. Bought mine the other night
It's a lot smaller than I would expect :/
I don't wanna spend 2 hours making every detail perfect in the editor just to lose it between the couch cushions
There are options for bigger minis on Hero Forge, I believe. Those wont be useable on a standard battlemap grid though (which is the reason those are the size they are.)
But if you want it just to have a representation of your character, that certainly would be an option.
Honestly the minatures look cool without the color, I like the statue vibe they give
You can prime and drybrush mini into "marble" like or worn-out statue look. Need like 1-2 paints, shade, and no skill at all. Works out really well.
Bro...I have at least 5 of these guys made up on HF waiting to hit the button. After this video I'm not purchasing. I love to paint my own minitures and I'm crazy over detailing. I would have been pissed if I didn't stop and find this video. Thanks
They did send me a new replacement
My group has gotten a ton of these colored minis and they’ve been great. It’s plastic. Don’t try to bend it. But you’re not just paying for the mini but for the absolute ability to customize. For us, it has always been worth the money.
@@joshuahorne6033 I agree dont try to bend it.
Warm it up in a hot water bath to soften it up and you can straighten any bent pieces.
that would have been a good idea.
@@puzzled9012 yeah, commented before I made it to the end of the video... that’s pretty much every plastic miniature, official WizKids ones included. They get a little bent in shipping more often than not. Eldritch Foundry prints theirs in composite reinforced resin with wax supports so they are slightly more clean in their appearance, but... the downside with resin is that the mini will more likely shatter before it bends. You could always try the metal printed option from Hero Forge, but I think that you were reviewing the multi-material full color prints, right? It’s worth the $50 if you want a custom miniature that you can use right out of the box... try the hot water bath technique next time. They have an option to request a free mini to review, maybe if you get in touch with customer support they will send you another print of your order instead of the standard sample mini they send everyone else... but the outcome is always the same if you never ask, so?
Wish I would have been a more inquisitive kid back in the day, had plenty of little green army men with bent bazookas or m1-garands that ended up as victims of my Death Ray magnifying glass... ha
I personally prefer to buy the STL files. If a piece breaks, I can just print another for pennies worth of resin.
Plus when I paint them, they're going to end up the same quality as everything else I paint, and even now I can't use my old minis on the table because the quality difference today is so vastly superior to 5 years ago when I began.
I think it's unfair to break it off camera and then blame the product when it's obvious you snapped the plastic yourself. And then to use the broken mini as the image in the thumbnail as the "reality" shot.. very dishonest review.
I have taken credit for breaking it
Watch part 2
Dishonest?! That has to be a joke. Miniature plastic is supposed to be able to stand up to wear and tear, unless you're one of those freaks who puts every in its own case and never lets anyone touch them.
If a little fiddling snaps it, it ain't worth the money. And don't tell me it's because it's thin, I've tried to break thin pieces of plastic before. When it's not garbage, it's not as easy as you think.
I also feel that your color design might have been the issue. They have a whole spectrum of colors and will show you what it looks like when they print it off, usually it’s spot on to what the real thing will look like. You can obviously tell that the color changes, so if you want that color scheme again maybe go for a brighter color of that same color you had. It took me four different try’s to get my mini right, and I am extremely satisfied with it. Just saying but painting a Druid halfling with detailed dragon eyes is not something I want to ruin myself, I’ll let the 3D printer get that done.
Would be much cooler if your camera was in focus 🙂
the differnts is in sane thanks for review
Is the dice apart of the mini? Or does it come with the dice
No and No
@@puzzled9012 alright thanks also does the size change the prize or?
@@seekerandroses yea they will up scale another $15-25 as soon as you I to their xl size which is still pretty small
Legit the minis I have seen lately compared to this video 2 years ago, and it’s night and day. I recommend purchasing another colored mini now. Also maybe get a mini that doesn’t look like an Indian skeleton. Things that are huge I do agree, buy premium paint yourself, but something small say a halfling they come out really nice and extremely detailed.
I think I might give it another try
I bought my character, the larger version and it was about $150
Nice video but please fix your camera. The fish lens felt weird and the focus was on the background and the mini looked blurry.
ya i need to buy a new one sometime,
It’s likely a GoPro kind of thing. That’s not something that can be fixed, that’s a property of the camera.
Anyone who knows even just a little about 3d printers will tell you this looks great and its colored, it would take me days to color something like this. Also why record in 720p when your trying to show the quality of a product... Also plastic breaks when you bend it, grow up.
Did you watch part 2?
anyone is free to buy it my man
im crying to this video
The material that they use is dog I put one in my backpack and I was going to bring it to school to show my friend btw I was very careful with it and when I opened my bag the dude's legs were both snapped off
that sucks super bad, email them and see if they will help you out
I mean... don't want to be rude but..... Mini's aren't that durable? especially 3D printed Minis. there's a reason it's shipped in a box, in bubble wrap.
maybe don't toss it in a backpack full of heavy books?
Quick FYI, the tallest you can get these things is 47 mm...
Which is tiny...
thanks for pointing that out
It's almost like it's a miniature or something.
this isn't made for boss monsters, this is made for player characters and humanoids. what are you expecting?
btw, the average size for a D&D mini. is 25mm
so yeah. it's gonna be tiny.
This guy broke that shit....
I know I did lol
I love your miniature I wanna try that
Thank you.
Thank you.
I would suggest not going with the colored miniature. While it's neat, it is a new process, and it is coloring the plastic in the kit. It is MUCH cheaper, and much more durable if you buy it unpainted, and just put the time in yourself.
If you have a resin printer, you can buy the model for 10 bucks and print it off as well, that is the cheapest option since resin printers are sub $250 now. If you're looking to spend 50 bucks on one mini, well the investment for the printer is probably the better option, and you can buy the models for dirt cheap on this page.
Custom soldier minis? Print out an army~
@@Kopa_Malphas You make a great point. 3d printers are coming down in price and $50 is a good start toward buying a printer.
I'll be making my oc into one....
I'm gonna buy it
It's way smaller than I imagined.
Pretty epik
Thank you.
It's _$50_ for *_one_* mini?!
Lol screw that!
holy shit that costs 44 dollars?
Yes $$$
Compared to Warhammer mini prices that's about normal, and these are custom
Not sure I can take a review seriously when you can't be bothered to focus on the item being critiqued
Then don't, have a good day
u legond
Thanks I'm a legend