Dave Smith Instruments Mopho Demo: It's Insane, This Guy's Bass
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- Опубліковано 2 бер 2009
- Right on the box Dave Smith Instruments spells out that Mopho Synth is short for "Monophonic Synthesizer," but did you know that the remaining letters in the long phrase can be arranged to spell "No Nicer Size?" Hear this portable box in action in this, our first Mopho demo.
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fast forward 8 years to 2017 and I still think this product holds up well against new competition, a direct shoot out with the Pioneer Toraiz AS-1 and Roland Boutique SE-02 would make a nice video
You have Done a great demo. Thank you.
nice demo, can't wait to get one now :)
Excellent
Now this what I need
That was the pitch control of the oscillators, he grabbed the pitch knob, not the filter cutoff. On my analog Yamaha cs5 when I switch the pitch it maybe just a set switch 2,4,8,16,32,64...etc. In other words the pitch maybe just steps in the sense they also appear as on this mopho synth as well.
Are there any other modular synths within the mophos price range, i already know about the blofeld by waldorf but it has too many problems.
@SomeRandomCat Tetra is 4 notes polyphone which you can split over 4 different channels. also another difference is that the Tetra has a feedback option without the need of physical routing the output to an input.
I bought one of these a couple years ago, and its awesome. I wish it could do more 303 type stuff, but that's just the at itis . also, the real point I'm trying to make is how much the title made me laugh. What's really insane is the topical 90s humor. It makes very obvious the extent to which some things change and how some things never do, if that means anything.
you could plug into the audio input and use the filters, or you'll need a midi converter/pickup of some sort to control the synth
this thing is a beast...
a few days ago i plugged this into a club´s p.a and the bass end of this baby shook everybody.
Fantastic synth for heavy grimey bass and lots more nice noises.
Exelent review¡
this is the real freaking deal.. this synth is not kidding!
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I just picked up a Microbrute as my first synth and love it. Would it be worth it to have this along side it for an extra layer? Or would I be better getting something like Volca bass? I am a drummer first, and the beats I will be playing myself and over-dubbing, so I do not need a beat/drum machine.
I'd recommend Komplete or a Maschine. the maschine comes with enough synth software to keep you happy. It's interface is really easy and as a drummer you'll geek out hard. It's kind of like a drum machine, but really it's so much more. It's like an mpc on crack with a daw built in. However, eventually you'll have to suck it up and buy Komplete for all the sounds.
+yourmalm You do know that if you're replying here you're really in it for the analogness, right?
@johngorgis you can see the midi in/out in the video~
@KenobiFromCoruscant you could use the mopho filter yes... but i dont think the kaossilator pro can directly control midi devices.
better than i thought
The Tetra is polyphonic, meaning you can play up to four notes at once, but with this you can only play one. There are more voices, which means not only can you play more than one note at once but you can also combine different voices to play at once.
i really enjoy these...i might buy one. what equipment do i need before hand?
You don't need a computer for either but you can get deeper into editing the patches with the software available.
What does it mean when you say its just one voice of the prophet 8 does this mean i can get the same sounds from a prophet 8? im new into analogue gear and i was looking at the prophet 8 seems pretty cool any suggestions?
dioes this have effects like Delay or Reverb? i was thinking of getting one of these but must have effects...please advise.
Uggh. Gearwire. The LisaNova of instrument reviews.
Mr Show reference? “It’s Insane, This Guy’s Taint”
Dave Smith ist einfach Super,nach Moog!
@generix83 Oh right sorry. I think that you can when the markup is substantial :) What synths are you comparing it too out of interest?
can you plug a bass guitar into this? id love to see a vid of that if it worked
Moog little phatty makes insane bass. Best bass machine Ive got! Craps on the virus.
Add a reverb and some delays and the mopho is awesome. Don,t know about the insane bass tho.
+1 for Mr. Show reference in the title
This has nothing to do with the filter itself, it's the patch that makes that sound. It's FM modulation, which modulates the filter cutoff with an oscillator in audio range. That why it "beats" when turning the cutoff knob. The filter is 100% analog.
@generix83 Have you tried the keyboard? It has different pots.
@krakatoa47 could i run a kaossilator pro through this or the dark energy?
yes... that what i need to get, a video game soundtrack for my guitar
@v1o Are you serious? 2ghz are a LOT of operations per second, even if processors are optimized for non arithmetical instructions. If VAs sound worse, it's not because of lack of processing power.
that is because you are listening to it through youtube..... the actual thing is amazing...
is it worth going for if you already have a prophet 08
What is the difference between the MOPHO Module, and the DSI TETRA Module?
Its a great bargain for the price. Its monophonic, but you can get along this limitation by sampling the sound and playing chords...multitimbrality is easily excused if multi-tracked one track by one...you can great tight grooves, searing leads, shaking basses, etc.
I still prefer the Prophet 08 rack due to its great interface and 8 voices poly / 2 multi-timbral.
..love it bought 2 and also the Prophet 08 rack and TETRA.. the oscillators have a very American sound in my opinion.. the can scream.. not all soft and squishy like overpriced Moog oscillators...
Not sure whether this is the reason for that, but it's obviously digitally controlled analogue. The parameters are controlled digitally but the signal path is entirely analogue.
That's to be expected really. It's real analouge. There is no keybed.., and the MoPho has no where near the real-time control as you find on the SH-201. Both units are great synths too. The MoPho's a great little box unit.., and the 201 is a nice VA unit with a lot of controllers, keybed, and a VERY simple user interface without all the menus.
@Raikonex Buy the Doepfer DE, in my opinion the better sounding and more flexible device in use for sounddesign.
This a indeed a yellow monster, 4 LFO's, 4 sequence layers and 3 envelopes. The standard presets suck, its a DIY.
why do a demo and have no more than 360p?
Okay, so I have a Roland PK-5 foot pedal midi controller, can I set this up to my midi controller, plug the midi controller into my amp, and select my settings live through the mopho ? What are my options with this thing and a PK-5 ?
Rendell05 yes I have same set up. It works
Yes, the bass is great, however I need more real-time controls
@TheRealCritique Maelstrom is a granular synthesizer, there's no way it could sound like an analogue synth. The Mopho is closer in design to Reaon Subtractor. If you compared the DSI to a Virtual Analogue Subtractive Synth it would be much more believable.
wow
@gxddxmnxt I dont think they are comparable as one is alot more complicated than the other. The range of sounds you could get out of a monophonic analogue compared to a va with wavetables and sampling is limited.
This does what it does very well, it gets those old pro one monophonic prophet sounds at a really amazing price. Its huge bargain and a great entry level analogue synth especially if you are considering the keyboard version.
Hey! Don't mess with LisaNova! ;)
No effects, but you won't miss them.
@gxddxmnxt there is no point in comparing them mate they are completely different mopho is analogue and the blofeld is digital blofeld is for more complex sounds and has more voices mopho is not , it is mono and fat is for bass lines and that kind of stuff mostly while blofeld is a full synth very close to what use to be the micro q line of waldorf. mopho is great to add some analogue bass sounds to a digital synth track cheers
@WithExtremePrejudice Being digital software synths sound different. Hardware has the advantage of live analogue circuits and all their inconsistencys.
three more voices in the Tetra
@generix83 How do you mean? Analogue synths are really cheap to make.
sorry guys i brought this guy about 3 months ago and unable to use cause cant find the right cables! please someone help!
You still having trouble? All you need is a midi cable and TRS cables.
Josh kosmic lol
The basic requirement is one standard MIDI cable (5 pin DIN plugs on each end) to connect a MIDI controller, e.g. a keyboard, or a MIDI wind instrument.
The output is a 1/4" jack, which you can plug headphones into or connect to an amp with a guitar lead.
To edit patches on a computer, you need two MIDI cables and a USB MIDI converter, or an M-Audio Uno (or similar) which combines the two. Don't cheap out on the converter. The good ones are not all that expensive - e.g. ones made by M-Audio or Roland.
The free patch editor for Windows works just fine - I'm using it on Windows 7. There is at least one paid version with more features, but mostly for organising your saved patches, and not essential.
are you from powerglove? listen to blood dragon soundtrack, literally exactly the same sound as the arp you made, have a listen
1:23 Blade Runner End Titles, lol
@Mankemacho do u mean shit as in "shit" or "the shit?"
@KenobiFromCoruscant midi cable
digital control of an analogue synth
Can You use this with a bass guitar?
Yeah. Get a Sonuus box to interface, and you are good to go.
Modulars are expensive. For the price of a Mopho you'll only get a power supply, case, and maybe an oscillator. The Blofeld isn't modular, it's just a "Virtual Analog" synth, which basically means it's a digital synth that tries to sound analog.
The blofeld its not virtual analog only it has wavetable synthesis also sampling ,fm etc its quite complex synth
what does the push it button even do i still havnt found a video where someone pushes that badboy
I'm trying to figure out if I want to buy this or the Doepfer Dark Energy. I already have a Waldorf Blofeld and the menu diving annoys the hell out of me.
1:22 Kuedo fan or is that just coincidence?
how do you think that bladerunner thing is like kuedo?
This module blows !
Actually, Arturia HAS a software copy of the CS-80! Pretty amazing, eh?
The reason you have yet to hear a VST that sounds truly like an analog synth isn't because your ear is that discerning -- it's because you already know that what you are hearing is a VST, so it is never given a fair chance because you will not open your mind to the fact that modern softsynths outperform old analog technology.
We're all looking forward to your video.......12 years on.
However computers do not have that same luxury with Audio. CPU's are only good for general purpose code.
I was gona by one of these a few years ago.... bought an MS2000 instead,but I mean... I think dave smith instruments sound thin, I used the evolver and a few others... Always has the same sorta sound, kind of thin and metallic/squeaky, meh...
Dave Smith's small synths outsell Roland SH201's
Ill take Vaz Modular instead.
No, but you need a MIDI keyboard with old school DINs not a usb MIDI keyboard.
yea true, its better just to buy a real analog synth really init, thanks for the reply.
"costs less than microkorg xl"
:)
is this analog sound or digital???
+Miss Controllerism It's Analog Modeling, It uses a editor on the computer to edit patches.
Are,u sure? So those are algorithms?
+Miss Controllerism Maybe I'm wrong, From what I'm seeing people are saying it's pure analog.
+Zachariah Moreno I'd put it this way: the sound synthesis consists of analog circuits, so yeah, analog. DSI's website states: "100% analog signal path" - that's what you're looking for. The term 'modeling' most of the time refers to digital means of creating sounds. Some makers try to persuade you into thinking their gear is analog by using those terms like 'analog style' or 'virtual analog' (the last one is rather accurate, but has to be understood as 'digital modeling of analog style synthesis'). The editor is only used to program the synth, as I recall. This means sending (digital) controls to the synth that get converted to analog control signals. That being said, many analog synths have digital parts implemented, such as digital oscillators or patch storage. Sorry for my long answer, but there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding going on about this matter in general.. Hope I could clear this up a bit and sorry for any weird English :-]
This is an analog synth that uses digital control, i.e. The sound is made from electronic components, but controlled using computer chips. The sound you are hearing is 100% analog.
its insane, this guys taint! only person who probably will ever get that.
first thing i thought of when i saw the title. still one of the greatest comedy shows of all time.
I guess I got to the party late, but I want it to be known that I get the joke! or reference. whatever
Same here, I love Bob & David
Hahaha nice blade runner!
shrek @2:21
no nice sizer*
This is a highly subjective matter. However the broad spectrum of opinion will qualify you as incorrect. Various listening tests have been conducted publicly on the internet for years. And the consensus has always been that Virtual Analogue synths sound distinct from Analogue synths. None is better than the other. They are just different.
It's INSANE, this guy's taint.
That is incorrect. I have yet to hear a VST that can sound like a CS80. Arturia's plugin doesn't sound close. Same with the Moog. Have yet to even hear a VST that can sound like an Access Virus. The Virus is one of the more analog sounding VAs, there's a reason why. General purpose CPUs DO NOT house enough power to handle more advanced modeling algorithms. Corners will always be cut in the quality department. Units like the Virus use dedicated hardware specifically designed for the task.
Even Hardware VA's with their dedicated DSP processors like the Nord Modular, Virus TI2 or Roland V-Piano currently sound better or phatter than most Soft synths.
Not true. Softsynths, particularly analogue modeling softsynths, have perfectly captured the sound of analogue synthesizers through engineering those inconsistencies -- because such algorithms are programmed in a stable digital environment, the environment itself has no effect on the sound. Softsynths that don't sound good just aren't engineered well.
somebody hand this to WC Olo Garb or JayBee, quick sharp!
Actually, this is not true at all. The VAST majority of double-blind tests conducted show that over 99.5% of listeners cannot reliably tell the difference between a properly engineered softsynth and an analog synth.
The real issue here, and the reason there is such a market for analog synths still, is because there are so many luddites who cannot accept that audio engineering has finally captured all of the nuances of analog.
its insane this guys taint
great synth, absolutely annoying display of its capabilities
boring sounds...
Sounds plastic.
LOL "about the same price as a microkorg" yeah with no freakin keyboard. Microkorg is brilliant for live performance, a mopho module is useless for live performance.
Uh...plug in a midi keyboard and you're good to go. I don't see the problem.
csselement
Have you ever played live before? Unless you want to carry a friggin table from gig to gig, the mopho module with a midi keyboard aint gonna fly. It's called a "desktop" for a reason.
What are you putting your MicroKorg on...a stand? Sure, that works but tons of people use tables at performances (for turntables, synths, laptops, fx units, etc.). As an example, try searching "diplo live" in Google images. Table...table...table...table...
csselement
Yeah, people use tables when they can get someone else to carry them. Some of us are DIY, bro. And anyone who uses a laptop live isn't making live music.
turoniner Sorry, you've lost me. I'm totally capable of carrying a foldout table myself but I clearly don't know your situation. Maybe you're disabled and I want to be sensitive to that possibility. Yes, performers have in many instances used laptops in live settings to enhance/modify/create LIVE music. Perhaps your experience is limited; again, I don't know your situation but do appreciate the conversation.
three more voices in the Tetra