People Are VERY Upset About TMNT Mutant Mayhem... and its silly
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01:59 Splinter GAY!?!?!
06:12 April Is UGLY!?!??!
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I would but i don't vape.
I should get it for my brother
You know whats Cannon snow white being a minore who gets picked up by a 32 year old to get married to.
Or how in Cinderella at the end the sisters cut out part of there foot to mary a guy for money and because he is royalty.
Cannon is not alwas good
So you support deliberate blackwashing, cringe characters pre-established as the opposite, obesity propaganda, anti-beauty, anti anti-femininity and anti-redhead/ginger hate? Nice try, hypocrite woketard clowns! 🤡
Most of these people watch the TV show and that's it. And you be lucky if they actually watch one of the series that came after the 80s television series. Or know anything about any other character except the main castor what happen in the comics, This is jest people who are stupid talking about things they barely understand to be mad.
"It's not Canon!"
1980's: Splinter was human turn into a rat
2003: Shredder was an Alien
2012: April was a Psychic Mutant
2018: The Turtles had Mystical Powers
Tmnt has never been consistent so there's no "Canon" even so, if people watched "Tmnt: Turtles Forever" every universe is different
That's actually one of my favorite things about the tmnt series. Writers get to explore the characters and their world in different ways with each iteration. Retaining the main aspects of the original while also adding a fresh new spin on it is what keeps a long-running series alive
I would also point out that in some iterations splinter was the pet of homoto Yoshi and not homoto himself. In the 2003 series Baxter stockman never turned into his fly form at all, also in 2014 movie they were April's pets (the turtles and splinter) but yet it's not "canon"
I HATE when people who aren't into a show or Fandom talk about Cannon. They complained about Superman (with the new series) having electric powers.
You know the power that Superman has had for decades now and is the explanation of why Superman can even fly or be bulletproof.
Top it on the fact that women can't exist in media unless they are sex icon. See the new Fable game release. The main character was a women that isn't "pretty enough", and all these Neckbeard youtubers were quick to call the game "woke" because the customizable character wasn't fuckable enough to them.
They made the same complaint about Aloy from Log Hozion, and Ellie (The Last of Us) being gay made her ugly (according to the same group of folks). But no one whined when GTA made us play a fat, out of shape balding man.
If the woman isn't hot and fuckable, neckbeards lose their ever living minds, even if they've never played or was interested in the Franchise to start with.
Internet and anime brain rot made them forget that women can be ugly, or gay or whatever too and they hate being reminded of that.
Some people didn't like those changes either. Internet's even bigger. So instead of writing them letters, it's not online. You're just seeing it now
@@glasscoyote9687exactly. So it shouldn't matter.
As much as I'm completely against fat shaming, I always have to cackle when someone who themselves is obese does it. That man was trying to hard to call April fat, ugly and gross *BUT* was catching HIMSELF in 4K.
Absolutely agreed,
God I hate it but its also hilarious
@@InevitableOption-ic2vx THIS exactly. Imagine rushing to Elon Musk presents "Twitter" to let the world know you're upset about a cartoon rabbit's breast reduction. The only thing funnier were the people genuinely upset the Green M&M wasn't "hot" anymore.
When those people discover Cosplay, we're gonna see a Conservative Kink Cultural Shift™.😆
@@InevitableOption-ic2vx Lola Bunny was originally like Johnny Bravo, it was great. You just didn't get the humor because "man actually thinks thirsty woman is hot" is not HATEFUL comedy like the dynamic in Johnny Bravo, and you only get it if it's hateful.
Both Johnny and Lola were instances of "it's funny because it's true" humor: men love women for being women and women hate men for being men. But people couldn't stand to look in the mirror so they jsut had to insert celebrity personality to Lola so the clebrity has a platform to erase Lola and just play herself, like tom cruise's TRASH movies.
Social media is just another media, funny you all flock to complain about complainers because the entry ticket is Free dollars. Log off YOURSELF and go watch more children's cartoons if the CONTENT is not to your liking, stop being an addict.
Feels like self-hatred under the guise of self-grandeur.
What makes April's design "controversy" even more stupid than it would normally be Is that April herself has the most inconsistent design ever.
- In the OG comics she has black and curly hair
- In the 80's show, she has short brunette hair
- In the 2003 version, she has a very red shade of red hair and green eyes
- In the 2012 version, she's a ginger with blue eyes
- In Rise, she's black and has brunette curly hair
Heck, TMNT's og creators were split on whether she's white or mixed race. Eastman, one of the two creators, based April on his former ex who was mixed race. Tho, what ethnicity she was is everyone's guess. After they split, April was drawn more white in the comics later on.
She's also a living drawing in the original comics
But in virtually almost every piece of TMNT media (movies included) she’s portrayed as a white woman. So the general consensus seems to be that April O’Neil is considered a white woman.
@@FG-tu4fq She was white in the OG comics. She had a tan and curly hair when she went to a hair salon for a very short time. She was just named after April Fisher.
Mirage April has brown hair in some recolor panels hell in issue # 2 her hair looks brownish red. She only had black curly hair early on. In the 80's show in the later seasons she has auburn hair. 2003, IDW, Archie comics, 1990 1st movie, Last Ronin and 2012 all has red hair. and they are very similiar looking. The red head white April is a standard. We have an established April until 2014 when we got slutty discount April in Megan Fox and then Race swapped Irma in 2018 and what ever the fuck this was in 2023 the fucking repulsive troll doll.
I actually love this "ugly" art style, everything looks uneven and has flaws and it just makes it look unique weirdly enough.
I think people are looking too into a movie about mutant turtles
My theory is that they did this to make the turtles look appealing in comparison to the humans and to visually represent how the mutants aren’t horrible monsters compared to the humans.
And I agree, the ugly art style is so unique. I love that it looks so different to most 3d animated movies, which all have the same style. Also they are definitely trying to appeal to boys (or cater to stereotypical boy interests at least) and bring back some of that ugly 90s cartoon aesthetic.
A cutesy 3d door dash art style would’ve taken away a lot from the film
@@Purplesquigglystripe Plus to emphasise on the mutations having not the ideal transformation etc.
I never had a problem with it as it's purposeful looks like it and the flow of the animation movement is like an actual painting.
Agreed i extremly love the art style of Mutant Mayhem
@@PurplesquigglystripeThe main reason the art style is like that is actually because they wanted to make the film look as if a teenager/kid drew it. So naturally, a lot of traditional art values you’d have drilled into you in art school aren’t present because a kid with no formal training wouldn’t draw like that. You can even notice that the effects (like steam from car engines) look like scribbles
It’s like claymation, the baby turtles intentionally look like clay and all mushy, and I LOVE IT! I have never seen a movie understand what I find appealing about animation and style so perfectly! Even the colours are like a massage to my eyes, I can’t wait to see what they do with the series they’ve already confirmed
i don't know why people care about april's ethnicity. this isn't even the first time she's been portrayed as black.
Maybe it’s cause it’s the “go-to” for raceswapping, especially with white redheads. You can find the graph of every redhead whose been raceswapped and it’s always the same change.
Also making her overweight just seems to be hopping on the body positivity wagon (just like Lizzo!)
Because Hollywood is forcing woke shit onto us by turning Ariel black, Peter Pan black, and feminist to because they are changing original characters for the BLM gods
It's because she doesn't even resemble the original character
April was black in the original comics
@@andreawynn354no she wasn't. 😂
Another thing about aprils look is comparing her to the rest of the humans. Everyone in New York looks crazy looking. So if they had gone ahead and made April who is again 16 super “hot” she would’ve definitely looked out of place compared to everyone in New York. She honestly is the most normal looking from every other human
It reminds me of the Lola bunny controversy back when space jam 2 was coming out. That whole controversy said more about them and their mindset on sexualizing characters, cartoon characters that had no business being sexualized in the first place.
I can't tell your not from New York if you think her looking good is out of place LMFAO
@@SuperCasperman no I’m not that’s not my point tho. I’m talking about how people look in this movie in general. They look crazy looking and she’s the most normal looking from the people we saw
@@SuperCasperman they're talking about the movie, not irl.
Exactly the entire point of the artstyle is too look rough and dirty every background characters face is assemetrical and has scribble lines
People are literally complaining about Aprils design because they don't wanna fuck it
What society are we living in😭
Nah fr 💀
Like when Tucker Carlson got upset that the Green M & M isn't hot enough.
This just in: man complaining about a fictional teenager being black and plus sized in a kids movie that he hasn't even seen yet says other people are "snowflakes"
Or maybe people want an actual April O'Neil. Not a slutty Megan Fox one, a race swapped Irma, and a repulsive troll doll one.
😂 seriously they are so sensitive
So you wouldn't mind if the Shredder is adapted as black instead of being asian?
What else is new
@@joshidejjAh yes, another shitty comparison. I'm gonna tell you essentially the same thing I told white panther argument guy. Shredder is the leader of an ancient ninja clan his race is an integral part of his character. April is a side character who just exists to be the human friend of the turtles.
Finally a actual creator who seen the movie, and know what it does
"creator" lmao
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 don't lie on here lol 🤣
@@BlackLivesMatter1414…how?
The only hate I see for this film is from TMNT fans. They wanted something dark and gritty like from IDW. Doesn’t matter how good this film is, they want something ‘adult’ and edgy.
just read the IDW comics simple.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 as someone that loves this movie too. thats just rude to the fans, the peeps who have grown up with this for literal decades. last ronin is actually great and the story behind it is equally as fantastic. its a work of the original creators and grew with the audience. its so selfish to always as a rebuttle say "well then they can just read the comics" why do we say to the people who it actually meant something to "you're not welcome here" I grew up with all this stuff and even though fans can be angry I legit just think peeps like BP just hate read reviews. I've heard nothing but great things from actual fans. the only place I hear these complaints are from channels like the quartering which will just see a race swap and say "OMG WOKE!!" there is a nuance to these things and a spectrum on which it can work but no POC actually wants tokenism we want real characters that are ours like static shock (which also got a pretty alright reboot in the comics just sadly made for a new one again. which aint all bad but sucks for me in comparison)
@@blakegandalf8753 I don't know dude. Whenever they adapt comics to anything it's almost always different from the source material anyway so you might aswell keep it in it's original form.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 what? no dude. thats what was so great about last of us pt 1 the show is that they changed it (please actually make joels death in s2 satisfying. I think nakey jakey makes a good vid on why the fans dislike it if you didn't play the games. which funny enough also over a decade before the sequel.) I dislike when its word for word and it almost never translates well doing that but I def don't want some eragon shit either
@@blakegandalf8753 Valid points made.
15:25 so fun fact! majority of the movie was recorded with the actors in the same room instead of individually and once they got all 4 turtles together and heard how they interacted and improvised together the director said they threw out the script they had to redo it to better suit the way that the teens would actually act and talk naturally and decent but was kept as improv!
I love the irony of them saying snow flake to describe someone that gets triggered but they are triggered themselves over a fictional character
I wouldn't say that... I would say that I'm getting rather tired of the needless race swaps, and the forced politics, and shit writing. Y'know a person can only take so much. And after 5 or 6 years of this junk, I'd say I'm rather tired of it all. So much so, I've been living in the past. Watching movies and shows from the 2010's at the latest and shows from the 1950's and some from the 30's at the earliest.
Not really
@@Group-935I think I may have just found the final boss of conservatives.
@@Group-935You really need to stop caring about race swaps and “forced politics” (which are just including personal and relatable things to the creators that got shunned in the past because of dipshits like you). Just try to enjoy new things and stop preparing yourself to hate them.
@@elderfiend6295 I could enjoy it.... Even after they swapped the characters. If the writing wasn't also so shit. And on top of that they make the characters ugly, and unlikeable. If they didn't do that on top of the swap, yeah. I could enjoy it. Also why did you have to name call? What are you... 12? And you had to bring politics into it. I hate that shit, causes more problems than good. Keep it far away from me, all of it.
Love you friend, grow up. Go enjoy some proper good shows and movies... Like Twin Peaks. And for a Movie... Try, The Big Lebowski.
We live in a time where people can get mad at anything at this point
We are in a great time for animated movies and of course people want to get mad.
@@JPOG7TVor when people like me say that there are only two genders and that trans women are not real women
You some idiots are hypocrites I swear
I’m convinced it’s a similar thing to FPS game addictions a friend of mine used to have, your not addicted to the game itself, you’re addicted to getting angry at it
People are bored and it’s easier to hate something
@@oliviab4079the sad thing is while it’s easy to hate something, it takes so much less effort to just have empathy or, best of all, not give a shit and just enjoy the movie
The term "woke" has lost all meaning to me. It's become a nothing word that gets slapped onto anything that certain people don't like because they don't want to admit their reasons for disliking it are petty.
Okay, the reason why we dislike it is because it wasn't gritty.
Which is funny because I've heard the term "woke" originate from a black man, who used to describe someone who is socially aware of problems in society. Nowadays it's used as a substitute for "sjw" because it's not 2016 anymore.
@@MatthewMoreau Maybe try a movie not aimed at kids? Sure, there's kids movies that tackle darker themes occasionally, but... yeah, that's not the target goal for a Nick movie about teenage mutant turtles. A lot of folks nowadays forget that younger audiences are the target demographic for a family friendly film. Get all huffy about it.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 That actually what should have happened.
Woke=Inserting identity politics/race swapping, and or gayness into already well established canons. Hope that helps. It’s honestly not hard or racist. Just RESPECT THE original sources!!! Go woke go broke. Go woke go broke! Not rocket science guys. Seethe and cope, but most importantly. Have a nice day.
some guy: "I'm not trying to body shame"
literally the same guy: *lists her being "chubby" as a reason why she's unattractive*
why are people SO obsessed with an underaged character's attractiveness? that is just so unbelievably weird to me. its almost like the Lola Bunny outrage all over again. people really out here exposing themselves lol.
One of the things that bugs me about the April discourse is that if you've seen even just 5 minutes of the movie you know that EVERYONE is "ugly" and weird looking (wich is great, wacky designs are awesome), so her being "conventionnaly attractive" would make no sense in the style chosen for this movie, and would probably look weird and awkward as hell.
Really it's just an excuse for people to be fatphobic.
Great movie, saw it in june and it visually blasted my mind off, and going to blast it again when i see it once more soon.
For real, a "perfect" April would have looked more mutant than the turtles in this kind of aesthetic.
Especially since she’s a child. Why should she be overly attractive?
Yea fatphobic yea the only people that use that term are people who are so big they could barely fit through the door
You just used the term "fatphobic". Your opinion is irrelevant
@@KookieKutter111 facts.
As a New Yorker, a rat and a roach in a romantic relationship is a Tuesday night. A gay rat and a roach in a relationship is a Friday night. It’s accurate either way tbh. Also, April is underage in this so mfs need to calm down.
One of the two original comic creators, Kevin Eastman, always drew April as mixed. NYC has had Black and Irish communities since 1830, and black people have been in Ireland since the 1700s. This should be the least controversial race swap of all time.
I feel like its because we just got race swapped pregnant spiderwomen in atsv so their a bit more angry then they usualy are with this sort of stuff
@usedcondom2.033 she can't even be considered a "race swap".She's just another version of Jessica in the multiverse,there's literally a pig version of peter parker
Look bro I’m not trying to start an argument but that rumor is fake April was never portrayed as mixed black but mixed white an middle eastern if you go by the story he portrayed her after his fiancé at the time therefore not black
That Jessica drew isn't a race swap, the creators drew her as black in the comics one time, and apparently that's the version we got in across the spider verse you fake fans be mad for nothing LoL
@@dakai-kun2248Do you know which comic depicts Jessica Drew as black? I assumed the ATSV Spider-Woman was paying homage to both Jessica Drew and the original Spider-Woman, Valerie the Librarian.
"Shes not white SHES NOT SKINNY!!"
As a black person, I have to say that FAT/CHUBBY girls exist in our community theyre allowed to be represented.
Also MAJOR POINT IS THAT ....She is 16..... miss mam. She should be JUST cute.
Yes. And from what I have seen, which is not a lot, her race doesn't affect the plot.
Why you people care about the ("fat people need to be more represented in media " )you want to know why they wasn't represented to begin with.......BECAUSE BEING FAT AIN'T HEALTHY. Why yall promoting that.
Tmnt animated seris made her look like a normal teen but this one looks old and is fat just to be fat lol? She can't run around with the turtles
I’m literally a fat dark skinned black girl. Seeing this hate towards April is not much different to how real life dark skinned black fat girls are talked about and I’m just tired. So so so tired.
She literally looks almost exactly like me. I almost feel attacked lol
"April is ugly"
Name one human who wasn't. In fact, April probably looked the most normal out of all of the humans.
Megan fox
@@rexraptor.yea we don’t talk about her….
I love the dichotomy between this movie and Attack on Titan, which it repeatedly references. Like Superfly is definitely a parallel to Erin, except instead of being this cool idealistic loner, everyone turns against him because genocide is inherently wrong.
Hey could you maybe elaborate, its a great point! Are there any other points that help back it up?
@funnydotexe1782 My pleasure, so essentially, the mutants in TMNT are like the citizens of Paradis, they're excluded and prejudiced against into seclusion.
Superfly therefore stands in for Eren, a character who believes his kind will never be safe until their oppressors are entirely eliminated, all in the guise of being a cool badass.
Just like Eren, both their parents were killed by their respective oppressors' attempts to eliminate them (Marley and TCRI), and guide their friends into committing crimes for the sake of repairing their place in the world. Superfly and Eren are both warped by their ideals, turning into huge abominations, as their friends turn against them.
Unlike AOT, while we do sympathize with Superfly, he's clearly presented in the wrong, and everyone immediately turns on him. Eren on the other hand, basically succeeds, and whether he has the right idea or not is made much more vague. Clearly a problem, since he's wiping out everyone.
Is it a fact that they’re referencing AOT..?
@@KingOfGaymes it's even a part of the climax
@@KingOfGaymes There are several overt references to attack on titan, Donny literally mentions being a fan
Edit: not necessarily confirming the character parallels, just giving credibility to the claim that the movie does reference AOT several times
I really liked how they got younger people to voice the turtles, this is probably the first TMNT movie (that I've seen) where the turtles actually sound like teenagers.
The character designs were amazing in my opinion. Super excited to see the designs for Shredder and hopefully Casey in the future movies
They sound like they are 5
@@jackko21have you heard a teenager on the phone before 🤨
I don't understand why everyone hates how April looks? When I was 16 I had the exact same body type and everything. By no means am I any less fat, but I've been told multiple times I look pretty/beautiful because of how normal/natural I look. I'm honestly happy with how April looks! The people who keep commenting on it are just looking to hop on a bandwagon with everyone else to get the most views.
Because, thats not April at all. Just watch the other movies of this franchise ffs
Im sure the intention they had was to make it more relatable to fat ugly shits (you)
What I hate about the "April is not cute/ugly" narrative: a normal proportionized black girl with dreads and glasses could hear this bullshit. Why can`t people just love characters and stop obsessing over how they look? Let every girl who loves action cartoons have their own favourite April? Not just the curvy Gingers? And maybe the straight boys also profit from the portrayal of different types of "cool girls" ?
April is the most normal human character design in the film, they where really out here making the mutant cockroach look good by making the humans horrifying in comparison.
Edit: To be clear I’m not insulting the designs if you watch the film you’ll see some humans are barely human shaped and they’re usually intimidating and angular to contrast with the turtles soft designs with a lot of curves
If you’ve watched Ruby Gilman and have seen Ruby’s Black friend, and compared her to every other human character, she definitely does look more normal in comparison, but she isn’t unattractive. I hope you can get what I’m saying.
That’s total 🧢 , she looks like a hobgoblin
People are getting mad over ninja turtles.
Let that sink in.💀
No, the sink hasn't payed rent since last year it's not coming back
Of all the things to get mad in this world today ... xD
@@beastcarleeto707you site are🐐ed
As a nerdy black woman, the way some people are getting pissy over April's design just screams misogynoir to me and just pisses me off so much. Also have a issue with plus-size women or realistic women who don’t have a supermodel body type. I've seen black women including young black girls with MM April's similar body type and looks, Hell people were and still hate over Rise of the TMNT April's design for her simply being a black girl. I swear some of these people just want their Jack-off material. 🤦🏾♀️
They have their iteration, why not just Google that?
Is not thinking that she is "Pretty" a problem? I just think she is ugly am i wrong for that 😐
@@BiggBilly Because you weren't told that your body isn't desirable. Different bodies exist.
@@BiggBilly It’s okay not to like her design since beauty is again subjective and we all have our preferences. It’s just if that’s the sole reason for not liking a creative piece of media as a whole, a singular design choice, and you then proceed to hyper-fixate and criticize the movie off of other trivial elements (like modernizing a modern movie) over the story telling, character personalities and portrayals relative to the changes, and so on, it takes away from the value of imaginative spins with realism as a whole.
I personally think April’s design is fine and the narrative spin and setting was fun and enjoyable. However the people he reviewed in this video in particular were pressed because she’s not textbook “sexy” and they made her “ugly on purpose as a marketing strategy.” She’s a normal looking 16 year old girl. That shouldn’t be the focus for specifically the adults watching this 💀
@@roxassora2706 never said they didn't stop putting words in my mouth
Thank you for covering this man. I’ve seen so many people get upset over how April isn’t hot anymore. Like, what? She’s literally a young teen in this movie. Also every single human character in this movie is ugly or crude looking, I’d say that April is the most normal looking person in the whole movie
11:38 "because everyone's a snowflake" says the guy getting absolutely peeved over a minor not being attractive
When they say that the new April is a far cry from what it has been, they're right. Thing is, that was likely the point OF the new design, to make a character that is relatable from viewer to movie
Honestly; thank you using your platform to call out these racist. I don't care; their reactions and language say it all. You don't have to overlty say "Hey, I'm a racist..." to let people know you're racist. Great video and thanks for a film recommendation.
you are correct. I don't like race swaps. they should make new characters that are..... not make a black girl be a white girl or a white girl to a black girl. @@bellalestrange
I bet the comment is not fond of the real world. we want our characters to be the same and don't make them ugly.
I wonder how people would react if they made a black character white
@@bellalestrangewhich are…?
@gumeo3806 they're fictional characters in an established multiverse..... swap away with everything for all I care. Grow up is all I got for some of yall.
@gumeo3806 it's been done; grow up and just enjoy the media or go do something else....
I love that you stood up for the new design of April!! As someone who has her body type and had that same type as a 16yr old growing up, seeing all these fellow creators mock her, calling her ugly and like "a lunch lady" was absolutely hurtful in a way. Because I was heavily bullied for my body back then and these people clearly weren't picked on to say that shit with their full chests without realizing how hurtful their words are. They made her look REAL. I grew up on TMNT in all it's forms thanks to my older brother, and I love the franchise to this day. Growing up with that older design of her; always made me think she was an adult woman, not a teenager. Huge tits, super skinny. Stunning. This April looks realistic and they get mad. When "hot" women video game characters are given a more realistic design they riot. Seen it alot recently and it sucks. You don't see us getting mad over them changing "hot men" characters, do you? Not that I have seen! It is ALWAYS a woman character being used as drama and "wokeness". To make people not wanna see a great movie....simply because someone might be gay or dare I say it, not an object to shake your log to!
Yes cause people are really hurting a drawing feeling oh no 😂. Now I did like her design in ROTMNT. Me personally though I really don’t care about the skin color of a character so long as their a good character.
@@DJefjam500 It's about people who share that body type not the drawing. If there was something about how a straight character or something you were was awful because they're straight or something similar I'm sure you'd be similarly upset. Empathy is a thing lol just because you aren't the thing being made fun of doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to be upset that a character that looks like them is being called ugly by creators at large. Also don't hit me with that "Grow thicker skin" shit because you're definitely the type to start whinging when someone says being fat isn't disgusting or when a character is trans or gay
@@time_to_exist9111 Hollywood and the Media craps on Men pretty much all the time. At this point I don’t really care 🤷🏿♂️.
? He was talking about drawing wtf why are u bringing trans and Gays in this ? Stop this bigotry
Well she was adult women in many iterations though yeah even when she wasn't adult her teenage self looked like adult .
I'm so sick of the anti-woke crowd. I heard about a recent poll that says even conservatives are kinda over all this anti-woke garbage, so hopefully it's on the decline & people can find something else to whine about kids movies for
Pig coming in with the most based opinions as usual. Love the video
Epitome of based!
Tf ever, this movie sucked
no
Yes.@@BiggBilly
Pig is the opposite of based...
my guy came out swinging and did not let up whatsoever. you love to see it! also i find it incredibly funny that everyone who insisted she was ugly also immediately insisted it wasn't because she was black. hilariously. uncannily.
Another thing that bothers me is how a lot of people complain about Leonardo's voice, complaining about the fact that he sounds like a child.
1: He's a teenager. Teenager's are children.
2: He's a boy. Boys go through puberty slower than girls. Deal with it!
This is a generational problem that's been going on with Tmnt for years unfortunately where one show drops people love it and when it ends with a reboot people hate it because its not a carbon copy of what came before, hell even i was guilty of this as someone which watched 2003,2007 and 2012 before i gave rise a proper chance and loved it along with mutant mayhem.
TMNT is one of those franchises that comes under constant scrutiny any time a new reboot comes along only to be loved as time passes.
@@tobiaslawrence8928 yeah I'm way more confused about Raph being HUGE in comparison to the other turtles in the new show. He looks like a totally different species but it is what it is.
This was so interesting to watch me personally, I don’t care what people think I’d rather get a new tnmnt than waiting 20 years for another movie/show. I think the movie is fine and I have no issues with what I saw in the trailer at least
The people comparing April's new desingn to the new velma saying she's supposed to be "critic proof" was obviously never on the internet when Velma first came out. Critic proof my ass.
They conveniently have an amnesia when it comes to those things.
Critic proof means that if you criticise the design it's because you are racist. That's what they mean dude.
@@AOGPlays Yeah and the show was still criticized to hell and back despite that so my point still stands.
@@naomiorogun647 Yeah but most journalists/extreme supporters say you are racist so your criticism is not valid. That's the whole point we are making.
@@AOGPlays again that did not stop it from getting criticised so MY POINT STILL STANDS
“Shes fat, shes ugly” - “I don’t wanna fat shame!”
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I know this is somewhat unrelated, but I’m loving this explosion in the beautiful stylized mix of 2D and 3D. Nimona, Puss in Boots, TMNT, and good ol Spiderverse, it’s so awesome to see such beautiful effort put into a film it’s makers are proud of.
"April isn't hot so I hate this movie"
For anyone who used that argument I just wanna say, that is a minor that you were more than willing to salivate over if she looked like the red head version. You see the problem here right?
People really hate ""ugly" women in real life too, so I am not surprised by these reactions, super sad
People hate beautiful women too. Look it up there are people, men, who find Margo Robbie as “mid”
@@Theravingranterthat just sounds like incels who are frustrated that they can't get with a girl like her, so they try make it look as if she's not good enough for them
@@Theravingranter you are right of course, and I don't want to minimize this problem, but the suffering of women deemed not pretty enough is often forgotten (a lot of people think ugly women get less harassed than beautiful ones for example, even though that's not true). There are studies that show some people have aggression spiking up while looking at ugly women specifically. I sympathize with the suffering of every woman, no matter appearance, just wish ugly people in general were allowed more decency and basic respect.
@@silviacarli5863 To me it is very hard to discern what is beautiful and what is ugly but let’s just go with “super model” versus “normal “. You are absolutely correct, normal average women or less than average if you are comparing them to endless unattainable perfection are more bullied and belittled than those of higher beauty standards. With adjustments to my hair and a pair of glasses I look exactly like the new April and even when I was slim but busty I still got made fun of with one guy in high school calling me ugly even up in adult hood. He once pointed to Nikki Minaj and asked why I don’t look like that, why am I so ugly he asked. I simply said, because most of that, the parts you like, the parts you deem attractive, aren’t real as it was common place knowledge that Miss Minaj had plastic surgery but let’s say it is real, her bottom, bust, and full lips. Why is that the standard for beauty? And if it is the standard for beauty then why am I ugly? I have full lips, I have a large chest always have, and while I don’t have a Kim K butt I have thick thighs assuredly. So what made me ugly to him and not just him but everyone, men and women alike? I’ve since stopped asking and accepted that if those claims were true and not just the vile twisted nature of jealous or confused teens then that is their truth and I have my own. It took a long time but I know I am beautiful but not every woman knows that. Thinking of women I’ve always found beautiful I know I can see it and I hear it even they have their moments of doubt or hide it very well. I mentioned people saying Margot Robbie is mid and that sparking intense fights over how gorgeous she is. Margot herself does not feel attractive. To paraphrase she said “I do not feel sexy. Not when I’m being me.” Seeing her cry, seeing her raw self hidden behind the smiling white veneer covered in powdery pink in the Barbie movie, that’s when she became beautiful to me and that’s how all people are beautiful to me, their personality their souls their very nature their intelligence their passion. I only wish more people, not just women but all genders wouldn’t feel they are ugly because, at least to me, the ugliness doesn’t come from the case but the contents.
@@Theravingranter i'm glad you find yourself beautiful and see the beauty in what's inside a person. World would be a better place for sure if more people thought like you. Unfortunately, I grew up with a mouth breather face (for which i had to get surgery), flat as a board and super short. I don't find myself hideous, but a lot of people in my life felt the need to put me in my place and remind myself i was ugly and worthless (my female employer told me she hired me because I was uglier than her). Guys got angry if I even implied I was interested in them. This type of experience, common to many ugly women, is rarely talked about. I don't resent anybody, but it makes me sad that women have to pretty to be valued, be in real life or media.
In the first guys video he was saying that April didnt look like the source material or the 80s show when the 80s show doesn’t even look like the source material
As a ninja turtle fan this movie rock's 🤘🏿😁🤘🏿. Give us a second movie
Honestly I absolutely loved the movie!!! The animation was super unique the cast was stellar, the chemistry between the turtles was top tier and April was great
😂😂😂 woke tool
I’d rather be a tool than repeat talking points like “shill” and “woke” and effectively be a sheep
@@BDB2004 sheep
@@BDB2004As if everyone who's anti woke doesn't spew out the exact same points with little to no variation. The only reason you ignore it is because you agree with whatever point the people spewing it out are making, if you step back and look at it they're no better than the "woke tools" you like to complain about
@@BDB200440 year olds crying woke when their favorite character has a change they don’t like
In my opinion, TMNT Mutant Mayhem is so far the best TMNT movie since the one it came out in 2007. It had an original story with villain being SuperFly, and the moral is just great! The turtles actually being and acting like “teenagers” was the best thing I’ve ever seen. And the changes they did, like Splinter and the turtles learning fighting by movies and tutorials, Abril’s appearance, it was good! Didn’t see any problems. The animation, the amazing soundtrack, composed by Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, FIRE. You know sometimes CHANGE is good.
I loved how the movie had some gritty action that paid homage to the original comics, and also had an overall message of acceptance. It didn't feel woke at all. It was just fun. And of course the animation was incredible!
Where their was fuck all action in this
People complained about the animation because it's so ugly. Like, are you serious? Do you really think those 90s movies are better? Take off the rose tinted glasses and watch the original film and this back to back. Tell me which is better.
The 1990 film is actually a high achievement in cinematic history.
"Do you really think those 90s movies are better?"
Uh, YES! I really enjoyed it quite a bit. It's a classic, That or TAS
But oh well, to each of their own
@@Juan.Padilla1998
Well you're just proving their point that you're too stuck in your nostalgia to think clearly.
@@Juan.Padilla1998There’s a lot of nostalgia bashing these days . People who bash nostalgia better not grow old into the future and say they remember something fondly.
@@Persun_McPersonsonWill you be nostalgic when you get older?
I didn’t know any of these controversies existed around the movie (deleted twitter a while ago) but as a POC who has never fit the traditional western beauty standards, this was my preferred TMNT film. Loved the way you broke down each “issue” people had with it, cause none of the complaints hold ground 👏🏽
And the responses to those complaints hold no ground either
Bruh the people who keep calling mutant mayhem "woke" need to get a life.
It is though... The only movies that aren't Woke that I've seen recently is, The Mario Movie, Sisu, John Wick, and Oppenheimer. Oh! Can't forget Sound Of Freedom. Everything else, Woke garbage... If it isn't "woke" it is still garbage... I watched one trailer and from the writing alone I could tell, it's not good. It's got that woke/millennial writing. Where they make a joke, that would be funny, but then they point out how it is systematically bad. Ruining the entire thing and pulling you from the scene.
@@Group-935I'm sorry you are media illiterate 😔 I'll keep you in my prayers
@@GorbWasHere Okay... Thanks friend! Same to you too. Hope you and I both get well, very, very... Soon. Kay. Love ya hun! Peace!!! ✌
@@Group-935woke woke woke! Buzzword buzzword buzzword!
The internet is rotting your mind.
@@Lulu_Lime There is no point in arguing with the likes of you people... You get so butthurt instantaneously. Can't you just ever debate a person and see where they're coming from? No! Apparently not... All you guys ever do is put up your defenses instantly and insult or trash a person instead of actually talking. It's kinda silly. And the previous reply to my comment is proof of this. Instead of trying to reason or see where I'm coming from and understand me possibly, you insult me, and say I'm "illiterate". Then you all get that hive mind mentality and gang up on me liking the persons " sick burn" they did on me. Instead of trying to see where I'm coming from. It's crazy... If the internet is rotting anyone's minds... I can tell you right now it surely isn't my mind.
Cause unlike you people I don't instantly insult, and walk away, I try to hear the person out. Then when it proves to be a lost cause I either leave and insult the person on the way out or I leave. You guys forget the first part and go straight to the insults, and dog pile on people like me. Cause I guess it's easier to do that and it requires less brain power to insult someone than to talk to them. So again... Like I said. It's not my brains rotting, it all of you...
Last thing... Even without the internet, it doesn't take a genius to tell that movies are shit now. It's pretty apparent in the writing.
Now for the insult, you ready? I'll do it in another reply as to not let this one get deleted. Cause it has a link... To a UA-cam video, but sometimes you can't even link those. So I'll do it separately. As to not let all my hard work typing go to waste.
I know this is long.... Sorry, I just can't type short comments to save my life. No matter the subject. Kay... Bye.
People complaining about a imaginary “wokeness” or whatever that means, it blows my mind how delusional people are, they always have to misrepresent and lie about reality, and live in their own little lie and try to bring everyone down with them. W video tho
Wow the drama about this movie is crazy. Especially for people wanting a 16 year old to be hot and sexy? Like damn!
I wasn't really excited for this movie since I was worried the Gen z humor would've been cringe but im happy that it wasn't and the movie was just actually good, I loved it! My only nitpick would be that the human made a 180 on the mutant too quickly at the end.
What's really cool about them actually being portrayed by teenagers, is that it made me feel afraid for them way more than I ever have with any other iteration. Cuz in other tmnt shows, there have been moments where they were trapped with the villain, but I was just like "ehh, they'll get outta this no problem" but this movie really made me think "holy shit... they're like, actual kids in this movie, they must be terrified out of their mind"
I adore the newer iterations of April (Rise and Mutant Mayhem). Her character is so much more fun than past versions, the Rise version specifically was SOOOOOOO wonderful.
Rise April is in fact my favorite April.
@@king_poyo64 Based opinion
When Leo said “look who’s got no rizz now” that’s when I realized just how much chemistry the actors had and just how well they portrayed actual teenagers
most of the time unnecessary race swaps annoy me but it’s not even the first time april’s been black and it’s not like i’m going to the movie for april… i’m going for some animated turtles getting into all sorts of shenanigans
Yep I don't care about fat lunchlady i go for ninja turtles
Ong!!
Whay piss me off is they they intentionally wanted to make her ugly the current version isn't ugly it actually looks decent but you can't really look at her and say oh yeah that's april from tmnt unless they point it out to you and the artist says they made her new version to resemble the old version but they have nothing alike except for yellow jacket altho they could also mean her personality but im not sure i have to see it for myself
when else was she black?
@@hudsonclarkkI’m pretty sure in her very first appearance in the original comics actually!
Honestly Splinters sexuality and Aprils race are not important to the story, unless they make it so. I know that in one of the more recent versions he even had a wife and child and it plays an important part to his character. Splinter/Hamato Yoshi, has never ever been blatantly stated to be leaning one way or the other so saying “Gay Splinter?! Not my Splinter! That’s not canon!” Is strange. Even in the most obscure things like the live action shows, the musicals, and the anime he was never hinted to have a preference. He was too busy raising his turtle sons and training them to think about getting some booty and in some respects might have even felt it would be difficult seeing as he is a damn rat now! An old Japanese man rat lol As far as April her appearance did startle me at first, as did her previous black appearance in the last animated TMNT outing but I’ve since gotten over it. The turtles have had soooooo many iterations, so many universes and canons, some with even a fifth member (usually female!) There have been characters added and taken away, races and gender swapped, roles swapped, love stories added, character traits redefined but what should always hold true is they are teens they are mutants they are ninjas and they are turtles!
It's so crazy to me that so many people are like "she's fat and ugly why did they do that",,,,, I know so many people who look like the new April. They are insulting so many people and saying no one that looks similar to them can ever be on screen in a central/positive role 💀
The girl who was talking about how they could have made a cute race swapped character of April O'Neal, she the type of person to still complain that she was race swapped at all. I still remember the backlash from when the rottmnt series promo was released and April was race swapped it never ends anyway, they'd still complain either way.
Honestly, I'm only upset about it coz they seem more like 13-15 yo teenagers and not 17-19 like in the tv series. But I'm glad they're not extremely adult like in the other movies
Considering they're getting a sequel movie and TV series, there is the chance the characters might grow up alongside their voice actors. So they could potentially be portrayed as older teenagers later down the line.
Why'd the guy who said "I don't care if she's black" say black in quotation marks? 😂 Never was a tmnt girl so don't know who April is but being mad that your not sexually attracted to a minor is weird af
People gotta be so upset and offended over the smallest, dumbest things, and it’s getting worse and worse these days. I’m so tired of it. 🙃
My only complaint is splinter being a regular ass rat who learned to be a damn ninja from self defense DVDs. They've been trying to erase the fact that he was a japanese man for so long. And they finally did it
Finally? He's been a mutated rat before.
@@mjangelvortex not in a theatrical movie
@@yeet76231the Michael bay movies
Honestly, I'm not black but seeing April's face up close from after the release and seeing she has multiple beauty marks or freckles just made me confident about mine. She is cute and just deserving to be an iteration of the character just like the movie is for the franchise.
Please explain how looking at an animated character made you feel confident about yourself? That’s very sad
@@yousaytomato0000To be fair most people do.Even “Alpha” males have a sort of “relation” with stories and characters such as the matrix.
It was so weird my bf and his cousin and I went to see it the first day it came out and it was just us. It was a really good time though. 10/10 super funny, and the art style was really cool. The human design wasn’t my favorite but unique and fun. And the fact that the TMNT is actually voice by kids makes it top tier. Just makes sense
This movie won't be out in Australia for another month, but I'm still looking forward to it!
I don't really comment on youtube videos (like at all) but I need this video to get boosted for people to see. I got recommended weird "wOkE TMNT" videos after not even engaging with them. LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THIS MOVIE IS PHENOMENAL!!!
Who in their right mind actually thought Megan Fox…was the perfect example of what April should look like…? C’mon, people. Anyhow…I loved the movie! A few Easter eggs in there for us old millennials that grew up watching the 80’s TMNT movies and cartoons. 🤓 So good!
god that reminds me of the rage people had over the she-ra reboot. I was 16 at the time, and seeing adult men complaining that a teenage character didnt have cleavage was unsettling.
Weird that people are so worked up about such an odd thing 😅 Thanks for putting things in perspective lol❤
I absolutely adore you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you have for having some sense! I mean you usually do. That's why I watch you. I saw this movie on Sunday with my bestie and loved it. It actually made me miss living in NYC.
Watching Pig is such a breath of fresh air
@@liberpolo5540 Facts!
Finally the gigachad has arrived to set the records straight thanks brother
Based pig!
It’s so ironic how the the people that didn’t even watch the movie were criticizing something that the whole message was supposed to be: hey they have to learn how to deal with being different because their mutants
Great video like always, I can’t wait to see it I’m so hype for this type of animation (and ATSV) to propel the animation industry into doing new things 💗
I feel this is a good jumping off point to have this version of the turtles “grow up” as the franchise goes along. I am a bit curious how they’ll do the shredder given there’s no Hamato Yoshi connection.
Although my only real gripes with the film are 1. There’s a certain character who gets killed off early in the film(I’m keeping it vague for those who haven’t seen it) and he’s one of my favorite characters in the franchise and felt a bit of a waste. 2. I’m kinda sick of one of the turtles having a crush on April as a plot point. Being realistic I understand teenage boys hormones but doesn’t make me like this any more especially since the 2012 version with Donnie.
Dude people are so sensitive today
tbh the main reason why i didnt like the movie was just because it was filled with pop culture references as its main source of humor which really disapointed me( and kinda that splinters backround removes his connection to shredder which i liked in the series)
i loved the artstyle for this movie! it was very inspiring as an artist because not everything has to be anatomically correct in this universe which opens up the possibility to just have fun with my art and i have mutant mayhem to thank for that
4:00 I mean if they really wanted to see a gay rat and cockroach make out all they had to to was watch doom patrol
lmfao
14:50 I would arguethe Gen z dialogue could be cringe, but on purpose. Delivered as naturally as it could be. I believe a good portion of those parts were improvised!
yeah definitely had me cringing as a 20 year old but that’s amazing because i could see myself in the characters, cringe and teen like back then
YES!!!! I'm so happy I'm not the only who thinks this
If you cry about what's woke, then you turn into a joke😌
I look like April… 🥺🥺🥺
Me and my Mom look a lot like her too, we were cheering and pointing like in the dicaprio meme xD
I didn't watch the movie yet. I don't mind her appearance(race,/weight) I just don't like that Just from first-look she looks like she's going to be a stereotypical gen z kind of character. like very hipster kind of. Like just the outfit design just screams hipster Starbucks patron that's going to use the free Wi-Fi to work on their novel(that's totally going to take off because she has such an abstract view of our society) and drinking like a low-fat macchiato bullshit. Also she's invasively vegan. She looks like she only shop that whole foods.
It’s like what Stan Lee said about Spider-Man he said “anyone can wear the mask”
15:15 so they let all 4 of them record the voice lines together so a lot of the lines actually were improvised because they were having fun and I guess the team really liked the idea because it made them feel more real to the audience
It has been confirmed, that the movie is cannon, because TMNT has a multiverse.
What hurts is that plus size girls who are brown/black that look like April can’t have someone to look up to without people forcing horrible beauty standards on them. And thats fucked.
This movie is honestly such a great time and I'm thinking about going and watching it again cause holy crap the animation is a chef's kiss just simply beautiful. Superfly is a great villain loved every moment he's on screen. Also when first watching it the animation reminded me of Paranorman and stop motion in general.
people who complain about things for not being “Canon” are some of the dummest mushy headed humans on planet earth. like if you can’t wrap your head around things being different then you remember you’re going to have a lot of struggles in life.
Seeing people hate on this movie, made me realize how people just would rather complain and have a bad time instead of just enjoying a fun movie
Gosh, I hate so much adults playing teens, or even kids sometimes. I'm always happy they use actual kids to play kids. Its feels so much more charismatic. And is pretty cute too.
People are making a big deal over Splinter and the cockroach being supposedly gay as if he and Shredder weren't super gay in the original series--
"That's how Hollywood is nowadays, you can't be a good character without being gay or having some kind of political identity..."
Maybe that has something to do with the fact that up until now gay people haven't had the *chance* to be good characters. For as long as the film industry has existed, people with "political identities," aka. anything other than the cis, het, white male default, were pretty much relegated to the sidelines. When a movie did feature a gay character, they were usually stuck being the MC's gay friend at best and outright villain at worst. There were very rarely any LGBTQ characters written to be the main focus of the story, and even then, like with 'Brokeback Mountain,' the characters' sexual orientation absolutely *had* to be the driving force behind the film and bear some sort of major significance on the plot, lest the filmmakers be accused of "forced diversity" and having gay characters in their movie just for the sake of it as a way to virtue signal.
But now that LGBTQ characters are *finally* getting just a tiny sliver of the spotlight after being denied it for so long, people like the guy I quoted all have to pretend that it's this scary, awful thing, some sort of cis, het, white male erasure, when all it is, really, is an attempt to balance a set of scales that have been pretty heavily tilted in one direction--theirs--for most of history.
5:20 if you wanna see the same movie told in the same way? Watch any superhero movie released in the last 10 years
Full grown adults complaing that a teenage character is "too ugly" for them is definitely creepy, putting that aside she looks like a pretty average teenager to me and that's a direction that worked for this film, the whole vibe is casual and relatable, the turtles themselves look and act like turtle versions of average teenagers.
Anyone mad at this movie is a moron. I grew up in the 90s and this was the best tmnt since the og live action movie. It felt modern while also hitting every nostalgia bone, and my son even loved it.
I just love how these "critics" claim that putting some "leftist" stuff in a movie makes it "critic-proof".
Hey, Critical Drinker, just because you have a "critic" in your name, it doesn't make you "call-out-your-bigotry proof". Same goes as well to his entourage of assholes.
pig has done it again! he Truly understands art. most people forget these movies are to have fun and be creative. such a breath of fresh air to see someone say it. as a upcoming animation student and avid turtle fanatic I'm happy to see a new generation of tmnt fans form and see the animation industry becoming more willing to experiment with their works. :)