Soothe 2 also can do a similar trick with the side chain... It can get even more transparent, but isn't as easy to dial in. This seems like a really user friendly one. A couple more tricks than trackspacer
I already have smart:eq, trackspacer and izotope neutron. I’m not sure if any of those do the phase correction bit, making this one somewhat unique… I do like the interface.
Smart:comp also works excellent for this purpose but I find it a little bit more flexible but also a bit more manual, I think smart:eq uses the same engine as smart:comp
Lovely walkthru as always Marlon... Love your unbiased take on these as always... MTM plugins are top notch !!! Small correction by the way - the LP / HP like filters ONLY WORKS FOR THE PHASE SECTION - but not to the ducker.. Looks like the FUSER will duck out the TRACKSPACER away apart from its limited range selector only applicable to the phase section..🤓👍
Thanks and you're 100% correct because is exactly what it does. I had it scripted like:''You can also let the plugin focus on a particular area with phase rotate, which is the best practice overall. Set the filters so the plugin works on the conflicting area only. '' But I rephrased it during recording and in hindsight it does make it more unclear.
I'd be interested in testing how trackspacer and this plugin compare on 2 busy percussion loops, where one of them has the plugins on them sidechained by the other. because i usually don't use trackspacer for mixing, but more as a sounddesign tool to sculpt holes into sounds and to kinda make them melt together, to form a new loop, so to say. but i have the problem track trackspacer's envelope follower appears to be really slow. you can turn down attack and release a lot and still find yourself just removing the entire signal, instead of just the parts where 2 sounds overlap. in such a case i usually try soothe2 instead, but that plugin makes the overall sound impression very polite and subtle, which is not always a nice thing in sounddesign
Trackspacer is great, but seriously limited. this looks like a more "PRO" version of Trackspacer. It seems we have more Options here. I Use Trackspacer on Backing and Side Vocals. it works great.....sometimes.
I've sometimes used Focusrite Fast Reveal instead of Trackspacer because it gives a fuller sound, but sometimes Trackspacer carves out the necessary amount. It's good to have more than one tool to try out. I still use Smooth Operator, Soothe2, Gullfoss, Neutron 4, and more. Now, do I need Fuser to have three tools to cover more sitations that may arise? On a side note: I want to know if Loopmix Lite's different than the full version because they're having a deal right now.
Only trouble with Smart EQ3 group mode is that you have to allow it to alter your EQ curve, even if you've already spent hours shaping out that perfect guitar sound. If you're ok with that, then the group function in dynamic mode is godly. Not least because it unmasks up to 6 tracks simultaneously. If you don't want it altering your curve, Smart Comp 2 does a great job of ducking only the desired frequencies to unmask.
Im a bit confused because you called this a dynamic eq curve, yes there is sidechain signal, but the end result is a static cut in the EQ, which is a suggested dip. not anything dynamic, whereas trackspacer definitely manipulates multiple frequencies dynamically, so in that respect isn't trackspacer truly dynamic whereas fuser is static?
Oh man, I’ve been using and abusing Trackspacer for years, and this definitely looks like an evolution. Another excellent and helpful review. And that tune was 🔥. Cheers.
Have you run into the issue where once you do resolve conflicts and return to the track, it seems to have forgotten what it's done, essentially making you repeat the step each time? Or did I miss something?
Track soacer uses a lot of CPU... So have multiple instances of it makes my crap glitch out... So I wonder how this does with CPU... Im going to start to use Proq3 for now on for sidechaining though because it uses virtually zero CPU.
Great videos! Trackspacer was a waste of money. Excellent idea... but It blurs the image. No oversampling. It cramps the sound even less suitable for mastering. TDR Nova or Nova GE are way better options. Gotta demo this one and test it.
Not sure why you're saying it's not worth getting Fuser if you have Trackspacer when you also say Fuser is better and more refined. Does Fuser duck volume as much as Trackspacer? Thanks
This is THE best of all of them, better than Izotope unmask and better than trackspacer. However, a huge props to Wavesfactory for having such a unique plugin for so many years, and first.
Hey buddy! Any chance you will review the Make Believe Studios sontec plugin? It just came to Windows after 9 months or so. It is really something special- Ive listened to so many shootouts on youtube between that and the hardware and I for the life of me pick the PLUGIN. And I’m an analog snob.
@@audiotoolshed its based on the MES-432C, holy grail baby. I know theres tons of stuff right now, especially big industry. This thing is really a step forward technologically- they took the acustica audio dynamic convolution formula and somehow moved it forward. I know you’re very busy though! I appreciate your consideration :) (I am not in any way affiliated with the company, I’m just excited for them - metric halo helped to bring it to life)
@@audiotoolshed holy cow! Even for vintage iconic units thats a pretty penny. The funny thing about the plugin is that it actually IS a Sontec, Burgess Macneal helped create it and it has his official stamp of approval as a Sontec product. Hes an eccentric one but very cool
I spent hours with Fuser aiming to buy it. No matter what I do my trusty Tone Booster EQ wins all the way. Somehow I can still hear the ducking effect on Fuser and tbh the interface is not really helping at all. E.g. with EQ I can see my accumulative gain curve, which I could not with Fuser. While playing with types of bands e.g. it just often makes sense to use low shelves for the bass/kick - not possible with Fuse. Phase guessing? - probably good, but really Fuser would always give me more phasy sound to my ears. And from what I understand it's only useful with static exactly same sounds like kick samples. I think most DAWs would have some kind of phase rotating tool so you could do it by ear. I am passing.
Great vid !! So if i understood right..i wiuld only need to place this plug on the track i want up front and then import via sidechain the other track yes? Seems like this plug is a better version of the reso plugin they also make
@@GTSongwriter not at all. RESO is a different tool for a different job. It's designed for taming resonances and does so very well on individual tracks and busses. But the thing it lacks for me is manual release time and sometimes release to early, so in that case I just use a notch eq. But other than that I Reso is very similar to Soothe 2, although I prefer Reso as you can set and adjust mumerous individual nodes for each resonating frequency range.
@@audiotoolshed Thank you, Brother! 🙂 (Friendly sidenote, the free mastering in the mix plugin video that you posted is actually showing a "Sonible" video on my screen).
Sorry, but how on earth can this NOT be better, and the next evolution of trackspacer and unmask, when it has auto gain, phase correction and even a suggested automatic dynamic EQ curve> Unmask is exactly like trackspacer, this has refined it to perfection. I don't get how you can't see the superiority.
It's a bit hard to tell, but I'd say it can be up to 4% on my Cubase performance meter on an AMD Ryzen 9 3900 CPU. Translates to 2% ish in Windows task manager. But other instances , when disabling/enabling, made no difference. Latency is 21.3 milliseconds @48khz as reported by Cubase.
@@audiotoolshed I contacted Tom at MasteringTheMix after making my comment, and he told me about the code by email but didn't say it was at the top of the page, so I think that header has been added since then
This is not really new, I'd expect the next versions of DAWs like Cubase to have this as a standard plugin. Saying that, if this was £15 cheaper I'd probably buy it. Sonible and Izotope and others have been doing this thing for quite a while and do it very well. Plugins...FFS 🙂
@@audiotoolshed I agree, but most of them are just cynically rehashing and repackaging either their own or someone else's old code and ideas and conjuring up illusory marketing BS to sell us the same old stuff. I think this market reached the end of the line a few years ago and they're just selling us the same plugins we've already got. Look at Izotope, Sonnox, UAD, Waves (FFS). It's just rehash and relabelling. Make it stop! 🙂
I 100% agree with its nothing new. This term AI is thrown around a lot, but a true leap to AI is a plug-in that assesses an entire mix for potential conflicts, creates those sidechains for you and then you can work on each conflict from that single interface and not have to go track to track. If this exists… let me know. If not, I may be calling my buddy who gets the big bucks to program self driving vehicles. He WAS a clarinetist, so never know.
@@gt4032 Yep. I definitely prefer this one over Trackspacer; the features, workflow and display strongly appeal to me. Trackspacer is just a bit old-looking now. And phase alignment is a BIG deal. I can almost always hear something positive, when a processor performs that task.
nice plugin, but it is the wrong plugin to compare imo! trackspacer is not a classic match eq. it is like a sidechain multiband compressor with 32 bands.
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Fuser or TrackSpacer?
You missed Reveal from Focusrite...
Soothe 2 '
Trackspacer 🫡
Trackspacer
Sonible Smart EQ3 I use instead of Trackspacer, but Now I'm thinking I'll get FUSER and still can use Smart EQ 3 for the master channel.
Thanks for another great video! I use TrackSpacer and love it. And, as it's so simple to use, I'll probably stick with it for now.
Makes complete sense!
I've said it before - your channel is absolutely #1 for audio plug-in reviews! You clearly put so much thought and effort into every video!
Thanks man!
Soothe 2 also can do a similar trick with the side chain... It can get even more transparent, but isn't as easy to dial in. This seems like a really user friendly one. A couple more tricks than trackspacer
Looking into grabbing this . Could definitely will be used
I already have smart:eq, trackspacer and izotope neutron. I’m not sure if any of those do the phase correction bit, making this one somewhat unique… I do like the interface.
Looks like you're settled. Or maybe you want a master the mix plugin and choose this plugin as a bonus ( thinking the other way around ;-) )
Smart:comp also works excellent for this purpose but I find it a little bit more flexible but also a bit more manual, I think smart:eq uses the same engine as smart:comp
Damn…if you’ve got trackspacer and Neutron, you’re plenty good.
What is phase corrections?
Very helpful feature explanation and demonstration - I really like the automation - Thanks!
Thanks for your nice words! Much appreciated.
Please do a video on Focusrite Fast Reveal v/s TrackSpacer.
i prefer to add multi-band transients shaper to make room for vocals rather than ducking frequencies
Transients only?
Maestro, this is very professional!l!👍😊 Thank You!!!
Lovely walkthru as always Marlon... Love your unbiased take on these as always... MTM plugins are top notch !!!
Small correction by the way - the LP / HP like filters ONLY WORKS FOR THE PHASE SECTION - but not to the ducker..
Looks like the FUSER will duck out the TRACKSPACER away apart from its limited range selector only applicable to the phase section..🤓👍
Thanks and you're 100% correct because is exactly what it does.
I had it scripted like:''You can also let the plugin focus on a particular area with phase rotate, which is the best practice overall. Set the filters so the plugin works on the conflicting area only. ''
But I rephrased it during recording and in hindsight it does make it more unclear.
I'd be interested in testing how trackspacer and this plugin compare on 2 busy percussion loops, where one of them has the plugins on them sidechained by the other. because i usually don't use trackspacer for mixing, but more as a sounddesign tool to sculpt holes into sounds and to kinda make them melt together, to form a new loop, so to say. but i have the problem track trackspacer's envelope follower appears to be really slow. you can turn down attack and release a lot and still find yourself just removing the entire signal, instead of just the parts where 2 sounds overlap. in such a case i usually try soothe2 instead, but that plugin makes the overall sound impression very polite and subtle, which is not always a nice thing in sounddesign
Trackspacer is great, but seriously limited. this looks like a more "PRO" version of Trackspacer. It seems we have more Options here. I Use Trackspacer on Backing and Side Vocals. it works great.....sometimes.
smart:comp 2 by sonible It has a similar function but I never saw someone make a comparison, could you make a comparative video between all of them?
Would get this when they drop the price!
After Mix Monolith,you can make a magic with this.
the best one is mspectraldynamics and it does a lot more too
If only it wasn’t over $200
Trackspacer is great, but I prefer Focusrite Fast Reveal or Sonible Smart EQ3.
The group function in smart eq3 is goated!
I've sometimes used Focusrite Fast Reveal instead of Trackspacer because it gives a fuller sound, but sometimes Trackspacer carves out the necessary amount. It's good to have more than one tool to try out. I still use Smooth Operator, Soothe2, Gullfoss, Neutron 4, and more. Now, do I need Fuser to have three tools to cover more sitations that may arise?
On a side note: I want to know if Loopmix Lite's different than the full version because they're having a deal right now.
Only trouble with Smart EQ3 group mode is that you have to allow it to alter your EQ curve, even if you've already spent hours shaping out that perfect guitar sound. If you're ok with that, then the group function in dynamic mode is godly. Not least because it unmasks up to 6 tracks simultaneously.
If you don't want it altering your curve, Smart Comp 2 does a great job of ducking only the desired frequencies to unmask.
Im a bit confused because you called this a dynamic eq curve, yes there is sidechain signal, but the end result is a static cut in the EQ, which is a suggested dip. not anything dynamic, whereas trackspacer definitely manipulates multiple frequencies dynamically, so in that respect isn't trackspacer truly dynamic whereas fuser is static?
Hi Master,what about soothe 2 vs all those(trackpacer,smart eq ect)for sidechaine?
Its a different tool really.
@whitenoisestudio you also can sidechain with soothe 2, so it would be interesting how they compare.
@@stefanlorenz3192 Yes whats the difference @whitenoisestudio?Which what is better for which job?,please.
Does it have Lookahead? I guess not. We would need a Lookahead, it's very important for sidechain compression.
It would be nice if you compare it with the free plugin The Masker
What would you say is the main difference from such dynamic EQs as Waves' F6...?
Yep, I am thinking the same thing...
Oh man, I’ve been using and abusing Trackspacer for years, and this definitely looks like an evolution. Another excellent and helpful review. And that tune was 🔥. Cheers.
Have you run into the issue where once you do resolve conflicts and return to the track, it seems to have forgotten what it's done, essentially making you repeat the step each time? Or did I miss something?
Track soacer uses a lot of CPU... So have multiple instances of it makes my crap glitch out... So I wonder how this does with CPU... Im going to start to use Proq3 for now on for sidechaining though because it uses virtually zero CPU.
Great videos! Trackspacer was a waste of money. Excellent idea... but It blurs the image. No oversampling. It cramps the sound even less suitable for mastering. TDR Nova or Nova GE are way better options. Gotta demo this one and test it.
Curious to hear how you like this one.
Not sure why you're saying it's not worth getting Fuser if you have Trackspacer when you also say Fuser is better and more refined. Does Fuser duck volume as much as Trackspacer? Thanks
This is THE best of all of them, better than Izotope unmask and better than trackspacer. However, a huge props to Wavesfactory for having such a unique plugin for so many years, and first.
Hey buddy! Any chance you will review the Make Believe Studios sontec plugin? It just came to Windows after 9 months or so. It is really something special- Ive listened to so many shootouts on youtube between that and the hardware and I for the life of me pick the PLUGIN. And I’m an analog snob.
I wasn’t aware! More gml8200 or sontec 250? Have to see if i review it, there’s so much new stuff out right now.
@@audiotoolshed its based on the MES-432C, holy grail baby. I know theres tons of stuff right now, especially big industry. This thing is really a step forward technologically- they took the acustica audio dynamic convolution formula and somehow moved it forward. I know you’re very busy though! I appreciate your consideration :) (I am not in any way affiliated with the company, I’m just excited for them - metric halo helped to bring it to life)
There's one for sale on reverb now for $20433 ;-)
@@audiotoolshed holy cow! Even for vintage iconic units thats a pretty penny. The funny thing about the plugin is that it actually IS a Sontec, Burgess Macneal helped create it and it has his official stamp of approval as a Sontec product. Hes an eccentric one but very cool
Where can the song be heard?
Wow, what Is the name of song?
I WANT IT !
I spent hours with Fuser aiming to buy it. No matter what I do my trusty Tone Booster EQ wins all the way. Somehow I can still hear the ducking effect on Fuser and tbh the interface is not really helping at all. E.g. with EQ I can see my accumulative gain curve, which I could not with Fuser. While playing with types of bands e.g. it just often makes sense to use low shelves for the bass/kick - not possible with Fuse. Phase guessing? - probably good, but really Fuser would always give me more phasy sound to my ears. And from what I understand it's only useful with static exactly same sounds like kick samples. I think most DAWs would have some kind of phase rotating tool so you could do it by ear. I am passing.
What would you suggest as the freebie? Does Bassroom make sense if you’ve got this?
I have never used bassroom!
Great vid !! So if i understood right..i wiuld only need to place this plug on the track i want up front and then import via sidechain the other track yes? Seems like this plug is a better version of the reso plugin they also make
No you want to use on tracks where you think there might be a conflict frequency wise.
I will miss all my mixes in order to buy this. Because actually I don't miss them and that's a shame.
Do you need RESO if you get FUSER?
Reso only listens to the audio of the track it's on. Unless they changed it and I missed something.
@@audiotoolshed Pretty much only useful for Master track then?
@@GTSongwriter not at all. RESO is a different tool for a different job. It's designed for taming resonances and does so very well on individual tracks and busses. But the thing it lacks for me is manual release time and sometimes release to early, so in that case I just use a notch eq. But other than that I Reso is very similar to Soothe 2, although I prefer Reso as you can set and adjust mumerous individual nodes for each resonating frequency range.
is the trail version fully funcional for 15 or 30 days or how dose the Trail version works ? dos it add noice. to the track ?
No idea. But its easy to find out.
Hi there, Brother... how would we recognize the Mid/Side specific conflicts in fuser?
With the color coding. Yellow is sides, red is mid.
@@audiotoolshed Thank you, Brother! 🙂
(Friendly sidenote, the free mastering in the mix plugin video that you posted is actually showing a "Sonible" video on my screen).
Sorry, but how on earth can this NOT be better, and the next evolution of trackspacer and unmask, when it has auto gain, phase correction and even a suggested automatic dynamic EQ curve>
Unmask is exactly like trackspacer, this has refined it to perfection. I don't get how you can't see the superiority.
Whats the CPU usage life? Trackspacer is great, but hits the CPU hard, so if this is more efficient, might be a reason to swap over
It's a bit hard to tell, but I'd say it can be up to 4% on my Cubase performance meter on an AMD Ryzen 9 3900 CPU. Translates to 2% ish in Windows task manager. But other instances , when disabling/enabling, made no difference. Latency is 21.3 milliseconds @48khz as reported by Cubase.
Thanks for the info@@audiotoolshed same CPU as me, so should have similar experiences.
Great video- thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very nice sounding for making room for vocals.
Indeed!
This seems seems to be exactly the same as Smooth Operator by Baby Audio.
Smooth Operator doesn’t have a sidechain feature, as far as I know.
Smooth operator is a sound optimiser mostly and not intended to sculpt sound to make place for conflicting audio.
@@pop_polizeiNo it does. It's really good actually. It doesn't have a L/R or M/S option like trackspacer tho.
How do we get the second free plugin? Am i missing something?
By buying this plugin on their site.
@@audiotoolshed I can't see anything about that on their site
@@joechapman8208 me neither, I thought it was just me though
Its in a bold font scrolling at the top of their site ;-)
@@audiotoolshed I contacted Tom at MasteringTheMix after making my comment, and he told me about the code by email but didn't say it was at the top of the page, so I think that header has been added since then
What is this song?
Soothe 2 is à best
it really is a different tool ;-)
@@audiotoolshed yes of course ' thanks :)
Is it something like Gullfoss or am i wrong ?? Please explane me
Watch the video.
What is that track?
I got it from vocalfy.com
You made the track with vocals from there? @@audiotoolshed
Actually, I found it... thanks, I hadn't seen that website before...
Is it better than Neutron 4?
Its a different tool.
This is not really new, I'd expect the next versions of DAWs like Cubase to have this as a standard plugin. Saying that, if this was £15 cheaper I'd probably buy it. Sonible and Izotope and others have been doing this thing for quite a while and do it very well. Plugins...FFS 🙂
hehe. Let developers battle it out, we win as customers.
@@audiotoolshed I agree, but most of them are just cynically rehashing and repackaging either their own or someone else's old code and ideas and conjuring up illusory marketing BS to sell us the same old stuff. I think this market reached the end of the line a few years ago and they're just selling us the same plugins we've already got. Look at Izotope, Sonnox, UAD, Waves (FFS). It's just rehash and relabelling. Make it stop! 🙂
@@athonygraham8353 This is so true.
I 100% agree with its nothing new. This term AI is thrown around a lot, but a true leap to AI is a plug-in that assesses an entire mix for potential conflicts, creates those sidechains for you and then you can work on each conflict from that single interface and not have to go track to track.
If this exists… let me know. If not, I may be calling my buddy who gets the big bucks to program self driving vehicles. He WAS a clarinetist, so never know.
No need for this if you already have Trackspacer 🤷🏻♂️
Evolution of the idea right.
@@gt4032 Yep. I definitely prefer this one over Trackspacer; the features, workflow and display strongly appeal to me. Trackspacer is just a bit old-looking now. And phase alignment is a BIG deal. I can almost always hear something positive, when a processor performs that task.
I have both and Track spacer is way better
Agreed. Easier and better sounding plus let's you understand what you're actually doing
Trackspacer is one of the most useless plugins I own.
How bout soothe?
Soothe is a resonant ''fixer''. This plugin creates room by listening to other audio Different tools.
@@audiotoolshed ooooh
@@audiotoolshed like a pocket?
nice plugin, but it is the wrong plugin to compare imo! trackspacer is not a classic match eq. it is like a sidechain multiband compressor with 32 bands.
The endgoal is the same, so a valid comparison.