Which Selkirk Labs Project 003 Should I Buy?
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2022
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The most comprehensive guide to choosing Selkirk Labs Project 003 pickleball paddle. Watch the review by The Pickleball Pirate Keith Valentine!
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S2 - Pick this if you want to focus on doubles. At the end of the day your goal is to be near the kitchen line and S2 have the advantage.
Invikta - Pick this if you want to focus on singles Down the line drives and reach is what you need most
Epic - Jack of all trades master of none
Control paddles is better since you can generate power. Power paddles is hard to control in resets and drops. Unless you're really used to your power paddle.
I am curious to know if someone has played with both the S2 and Epic and actually noticed the better control on dinks and drop shots using the S2. If so i would probably go with the S2, but if they did not really notice a difference then i might as well go with the Epic for in case i ever do want to develop a two handed backhand, but not at the expense of losing easier control.
@@jakewoodisgood1 Control is more about the thickness of the paddle, not the shape. 16mm and above is recommended.
Hey Keith. Thanks for another very informative video!
You really clarified the characteristics of the 003 Project paddle, the differences between the 3 paddle shapes, and how to use lead tape to customize the paddle.
As I mentioned in a previous comment in your review of the 003 Invikta, I bought the 003 Invikta and received the $40 gift card. Combining that with the Selkirk $77 gift card once I provide feedback, which I'll do after more time with it, makes the purchase much more reasonable.
Unfortunately, I was rained out today, so I've only been able to hit with the 003 once a few days ago in a 2+ hour drilling session. Coming from using the Ben John Hyperion exclusively for 6 months, for me the stock 003 Invikta is clearly not as solid with a smaller sweetspot, but the maneuverability is incredible.
Given that I'll most likely need to add lead to improve the playability for me, your tips on lead placement in today's video is much appreciated.
I'm going to play the 003 in stock form one more time (hopefully tomorrow) to get a better feel for it in stock form before experimenting with lead. My first experimentations will be trying your setup as well as the ALW setup, which I wasn't aware of before today's video. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again Keith!
Appreciate the review Keith!
A friggen grand in his hand lol
Great video. On a side note, what did you use to get the text overlay to align so perfectly to the paddle while you were moving it? I've tried this in Davinci Resolve and Adobe Premiere but it doesn't look as good as yours.
It was done in Davinci Resolve, Fusion page, Planar tracker. There are some UA-cam videos teaching it.
Will the face surface last?
Is it gritty?
Is it incorporated/ bonded well to substrate?
Is there a free return policy with the projects? Website doesn't say.
I believe the surface will last I’ve been using mine months and still feels great.
Which one has more pop? I had Mach6 not enough power, switched to pursuit 6.0 it has power and pop but I missed my control. Invikta or S2 Project 003?
Invikta has more pop because of length but not even close to the pursuit 6.0 in power.
What tape do you prefer to put around the outside?
Lead tape from amazon, i get the half inch type. For the white its just white electrical tape from Ace hardware.
Well done!
Superb comparison, Keith. Selkirk has a novel way of calling their paddles a "project" and charging over $300 for us to do their research and development.
With the rebate for feedback and the discount I can get you it’s more palatable for sure!!
@@theonlybaldie can you share the discount code.
i had heard that the different versions don't really have much of a power difference. But good to hear that you disagree. Do you think that the invinkta has substantially more power than the others?
Hey Steve, I’ve played against Keith while he has used both paddles. The power difference is noticeable, especially on his drives, however the biggest advantage is going to be the reach. If reach isn’t a concern then I would recommend the EPIC
Did you personally notice a difference in control with dinks and drop shots between the S2 and Epic, or is that just the website sales material talking points? Did you personally notice better power with the Epic? hard to choose between the two, i don't necessarily need a longer handle, but if you did not actually notice better control with the S2 i might as well go with the Epic.
The s2 has a bigger sweetspot for sure and will be comparable in power with the edge going to the epic because of length and the shape of the head. Spin they are identical, S2 feels softer and has the edge in control for sure.
I'm leaning towards the 003 S2, I'm playing w/Omni Vanguard now. Question is the S2 8" or 8.25 wide? Thanks
8"
I used the code, and it took a penney off the cost and I did NOT get a gift card of $40 and so far no $77 Labs gc for feedback. All I get was an unboxing gc for $20.... another question, do you see an indentation almost .5" around the whole paddle from the edge as I noticed it and it's clunky at the edge if that's a word.... Thanks for all your posts.
The gift card comes after 30 days I apologize that it wasn’t clear. For the labs you have to login to your labs account and leave a review of the paddle you purchased.
@@Volleyball-kk8jo hi. Thanks for quick reply. It has not been 30 days, so it will just show up as nothing was stated when I purchased nor since. I did the feedback online, how long after the feedback would I see the $77 GC? thanks. What about the edge, is it normal to have a noticeable indentation from the edge?
Nice review!
Thanks!
Does the 002 still have chipping issues?
No
I have to disagree with your assessment that the Invikta is "head light". Mine came from the factory at 9 points head and I'm sure that's pretty close to standard.
I like a paddle that is balanced. (i.e. set on a sharp edge, the paddle balances at a point half way between paddle end and handle end). To get to balance...not even head light...I added 8g at the lower rim of the paddle and 25g under the grip because I want static weight without adding to swing weight. After all of my modifications I went fro 7.8 oz to 9.6oz. Now it's a paddle that's on the heavy side for static weight but with good head maneuverability (neutral balance / very little addition to swing weight)
I absolutely love my 003 Invikta. If head heavy and head light (balance) are things you want to consider in your new purchase then I suggest you learn for yourself what "head heavy" and "head light" actually mean. It's not subjective. It's something you can measure. Almost every good tennis racket on the market tells you up front how many points head heavy or head light it is. But you can easily determine for yourself where the balance point of a tennis racket (or a pickleball paddle) is yourself.
By virtue of the shape of pickleball paddles (big head; short handle) there is virtually NO pickleball paddle on the market that comes to you from the factory HEAD LIGHT. To arrive at head light you have to add an ounce or more of weight the under the grip of the small handle to counterbalance the mass of the large head.
Evaluate your paddle for point of balance, change the point of balance by experimenting on your paddle and see what it is you really want, then cut the check for a new paddle that you can modify to meet your needs...because you're probably not going to find a paddle that comes to you from the factory that is balanced , much less head light.
How many paddles of that shape have you played? For paddles of that shape which I’ve hit probably 50 or more it’s the most head light. Typically longer faced paddles lean a lot more head heavy. So my review is relative to my experience of hitting and reviewing many of them. But out of these three models it’s more head heavy than the other two models. I appreciate your tennis point system but I have over 150 paddles in my possession and I can grab so many that are more head heavy of that shape. Not subjective at all it’s Called comparison by experience and play time. Even the invikta base model of any of selkirks line is more head heavy than the project invikta.
@@ThePickleballPirates It doesn't matter how many paddles of any shape any one person has played. Head light /head heavy is not based on a subjective feeling. The balance of a paddle is a measurable quality - just like static weight is.
@@steveiannazzo5451 can tell your a tennis guy go get some measurements of other paddles of this same shape and get back to me!! Been modifying paddles for years and I actually modify the handles to take the points down on the head weight to give more maneuverability and less power with less stress on the elbow. Get a clue and come back to me with better stats. Most headlight paddle of this shape on the market by far.
@@ThePickleballPirates OK. You're going to insult me? Bye
@@steveiannazzo5451 please don’t take offense I’m just pointing out with your stats if you take 100 paddles of that same shape you will see that the one you measured is considered head light compared to all of them. I know I don’t have the scientific gear you have used to measure them but do some comparisons and you will see what I say is true and measurable.
On your video, it says Don’t forget your $40 in the description.’ Where is $40?
It’s a gift card you get after 30 days.
@@ThePickleballPirates Hiw do I get a gift card? What do I need to do to get it? I’m thinking to buy a Project 003 Invicta.
It’s our code it gets you a 40 gift card from selkirk
@@mooyonkim6717 adv-pirates I believe it’s in the description you put that in at checkout. Then you will get a 40 gift card after 40 days. Also if you register for the labs program and give feedback they will send you another 77 dollar gift card!!
I'm a Selkirk man, but this "Labs Project" is the quintessential, hyped-up, over-the-top, mastermind sales pitch for an overpriced paddle and "accessories".
Hmmmmm, tough choice. Probably all good paddles. I think my choice would be…..
CRBN1 14MM 😂😃
Not a bad choice I love the CRBN paddles !!
Actually it was your review that got me to try the CRBN and it’s the best paddle I’ve ever used. Excellent job, keep up the great videos.
After trying this selkirk epic 003, still stays with crbn1 14mm, did not see noticeable advantages, crbn1 still my best paddle
Great description.
Thanks!
If you are thinking about buying a project 003 paddle, DO NOT DO IT!!! it is not worth it , cost to make it ,$30 Max., way over price , a lot better paddles out there for way less!!!!
I would have to disagree the paddles are great paddles but they are higher priced. I have had 100s of people get what was promised to them but it is only a gift card to spend more money with Selkirk.
Stay far away from these paddles
could you explain why?