Logic Pro on iPad is HUGE
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2024
- It’s finally here! And I’m so happy to say it’s better than I was expecting. Let’s talk about Logic Pro on the iPad!
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Truth. This is probably not for Logic Mac users who rely on a heap of VSTs and external sounds. It’s for mobile creators who want just a little more.
Thanks for watching Pete! 🙌🙏😎
Totally agree Pete.
Pretty amazing for a v1, really looking forward to see how hard Apple goes on updates and new features because I'm pretty sure we'll all be very delighted :)
Fingers crossed! Definitely my hope as well!
Here's the solution to the tape delay seemingly cutting out the horns (at 4:31). Take a close look at the dry control: 0!!! Just turn it up and you're all set. There's a convenience function in Logic, which mutes the dry signal for some effects to make them work "correctly" on buses. This seems to kick in, although leading to an unintended result.
Oh snap!! I’ll double check that but that sounds right!! Thank you!
Brilliant step in the right direction.
What it needs
- clip gain (on the clips, not in a menu)
- CROSSFADES (not fades from the menu)
- fade tools on clips
By far the biggest requirement. for the next update outwith crossfades is the ability to increase clip/region waveform on audio tracks. (Not increase the gain but increase the visualisation of the waveform) so we can see what we’ve recorded. Zooming the tracks to full screen at the moment isn’t the solution
Not a big issue that iPad Logic just has the Clip Gain in the Inspector - Logic on Mac had Clip Gain direct on regions in version 10.75, so, Logic users was pretty happy for 25 years without Clip Gain direct on region…
But the lacks of GUI when applying Fades on Logic for iPad is a bad decision…
But, hey, it’s just version 1.0 still, so, more is coming the next coming month…
@@ErrkaPetti they were happy without clip gain on clips for 25 years because they never had it or knew of it ever being possible. Also it’s a clip gain “tool” again more menus to navigate to activate it when protools, Cubase, ableton etc have the volume handle on the clip. Why all the menus?? 🤦♂️ People need to stop accepting what they didn’t have before and were fine versus what should be implemented with its capabilities & competition especially as it’s also based on a subscription model and not a perpetual licence. As a touch screen device it’s more intuitive to be able to grab handles on regions such as clip gain or fades. Having to open the inspector I feel is a temporary system as it takes you out the workflow when other daws on the iPad implement it seamlessly. I feel an issue with both logic and Final Cut is they were both programmed alongside each other as both ui look very similar. Both share something similar in that their region clips can’t be muted, altered, turned off etc. this could just be a place holder for updates to come and right now as it’s free. Everyone’s pretty much trying a beta. The features I say are missing are simple ones to add and are more user friendly for the iPad. Tbh I think they’re missing as the new logic desktop version will probably be announced at wwdc and a lot of the features will be shown in that and then activated on the iPad once announced. 🤞
The first really valuable video on LoPro for iPad I came across. For a version 1.0 the app is completely insane though there are still features that I miss hardly (especially MIDI learn) and the UX is not perfect. $5 per month is in this case a no brainer. You can subscribe monthly and (so far as I know) still have read only access to the projects if you are not subscribed anymore.
Thanks for the kind words!
Dylan, this video and your thoughts were spot on! 🔥🔥🔥 Keep the content coming!
Thank you Henny! That means a lot coming from you 🙏🫡🙌😎
Been waiting for your video🙌🏾
That means a lot 🙌🙏😎 thank you for watching!
My Truth. I like this more than Logic Pro on desktop! I have replaced quite a bit of desktop plugs to get a very similar power. This is just so much more hands on and grooveboxesque feeling.
But I just do hiphop, rock, edm, and pop so I’m not hitting giant library walls etc
Right?? That hands on feeling is really unique for pro DAWs
I just picked up an iPad Air 11" with the M2 and 8GB ram(only 128gb storage because I'm still kinda cheap), and so far it's been super cool. On my desktop PC I've used EZ-Drummer and EZ-Keys for a while in Reaper and FL Studio, and I already like the AI players in Logic Pro better. If I start to run into resource issues, I'll figure it out at that time, but so far so good.
Edit: Also, Re: the subscription model, I'm not normally a fan, but I have a habit of working on my music REALLY hard for, like... a few months, and then getting distracted by work, other hobbies, etc. for a few months before getting back to it. In these times, I can just cancel/pause the subscription and start back up when I'm ready to work again.
What's cool is that you could plug your syntakt or digi-whatever into the ipad and use it as a sound card with extra synths in logic
could be cool!
@@DylanParisMusic It is, I used to do that with Endlesss and it was pretty awesome. Logic would only be better.
When Logic fort iPad was being pushed as a desktop replacement I was disappointed. When I realized that it was not a replacement, but a starter things felt much better. When I realized that Logic on iPad was giving me what I wanted from my Akai MPC Live II and Roland MC-707, I put them up for sale and bought a 12.9" 1TB M2 iPad. Now the big question for me, how easy will it be to move projects from iPad to my desktop. If that works well Logic may take over as my primary DAW.
I feel you! I’m honestly really happy they rebuilt the app to make sense on iPad
I really appreciate that you have putt so much logic in logic’s review💯
haha thank you!
Yo. For the CPU walls, look at the bottom of the plug-ins (I believe that’s where I remember it anyway). There’s a button for “high quality”. You can save the CPU usage with that while monitoring. It’s basically like low latency mode on desktop Logic.
Great tip! Thanks Beau!! 🫡🙌😎🙏
@@DylanParisMusic Absolutely. Would’ve said more but I was still watching. Great video homie. I’m making one on it tomorrow. I just got back from vacation so I basically just ignored everyone while I played with it the whole time. Love it so much 😂
Heck yes dude!! I’m stoked to watch yours and learn more tips and tricks! 🙏❤️
@@DylanParisMusic Thanks man. I’ll tag your channel and video in my description as well so my viewers can learn from yours as well :)
In my opinion there are many powerful synth at the same level of serum and omnisphere fas auv3 ..give a try to drambo this is basically like a bitwig grid, also there is synthmaster one and 2 that are same lavel of serum and spire...ok there is not omnisphere ..but consider that omnisphere is 50 gb of library its heavy and cpu intense ...to me the only thing missing here on ipad is kontakt and sample libraries....as synthesizer there are amazing thing i could not believe ... nambu its basically like a fm8, the other icegear synths like redshrike , lagrange, laplace are similar to razor chromaphone....buttersynth ,synthmaster, korg collection, and so on
Awesome video. Thanks. I've not had much time to dabble with it too much so far but it's pretty great. I have a shoulder sling bag that fits the OP-1 Field, and sometimes I just want bit more of a complex sequence / piano roll view. My iPad mini runs Logic really well from what I've seen so far and fits in the bag. The UI works on the tiny screen too. Oh with your default record clip length for new projects... a lot of long time desktop Logic users start from a template project. Can you make a new project and adjust to your liking, then from the browser duplicate that project each time to start a new one? That's a work around I thought of as you said it.
Oh, my feature request: midi list event editor... this is something I sometimes want to do, exactly numerically tweak a midi message and it's not really a feature anywhere on iPad from what I've seen.
Great tip! Thanks for watching, I’m glad it’s running well on your mini and that it keeps that portable workflow for you!
His smile and optimism: restored
I can do all that in Garage Band for iOS, sure i might have to do it through workarounds and accidentally learn something in the process, but at least I don't have to pay monthly for the convenience of being lazy.
I 100 percent promise you that you cannot do everything Logic can do in GarageBand. But I absolutely respect not wanting to pay for it
Awesome review as always!!!
Thank you so much!
Horns were gone just because the dry signal on the delay fx was set to zero. Just turn it back up and you're good to go.
My understanding is that it’s a subscription app, which is an absolute no - which is a shame because I’ve been waiting for this for years! I’d have paid a good price for the full package
Valid!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Dylan. You’re always just and honest with your personal use experience and review. 🙏🏾
I downloaded it just to check it out for a month free. But I’m not strictly mobile as far as music production on-the-go. But for those who are fully iOS music creatives, this isn’t completely bulletproof as yet. But it’s doable.
Cheers everyone.
Thanks Gladys! Appreciate you watching and sharing your insight!
I’ve got say, the feature of being able to run Cubasis 3 on iPhone in order to write and edit ideas on the fly is pretty big.
If I could ever use cubasis 3 without encountering a ton of bugs and issues I’d agree
I think Apple bringing Logic Pro to the iPad represents a sea change in music production and other developers (Native Instruments, Spectrasonics, etc) will follow their lead. iPadOS will now become a pro platform.
This is definitely my hope too!
Thanks for the video. What I would guess is that Logic Pro for iPad will someday become an universal app so will run and adapt to macOS and that Apple will not charge more than the $4.99 they currently charge for the iPadOS version.
Hence as it’s going to be a no-brainer deal, the transition to the subscription model for the Mac version will happen more smoothly.
Of course they will probably keep bringing minor updates to the Mac version of Logic for sometime but the new features will come with the subscription based universal binary version of Logic Pro.
That’s an interesting idea! I think if they force mac users to this version they’re gonna get a full blown revolt haha
How did you film yourself and show the iPad being worked on at the same time? You do great informative videos!
Thank you! I film myself with a Lumix S5 and then use the built in screen recorder on the iPad for video and audio capture
Pro-tip: Use sample crate to browse your samples. It's a few bucks, but it lets you preview and batch move samples so much easier. As an aside: I wish warping in quick sampler was more like Koala. Having it automatically determine length for you is frustrating. Unfortunately, Koala has been a lot less stable since the last update, so it's not too great to use as a plugin.
Yo. If you switch to stretch mode you can stretch it on the timeline however you’d like :)
Clever idea💡
@@BeauTylerMakesMusic I found out recently that you can use a modifier in the Quick Sampler to vary the flex rate a little bit which is great if a sample is like 1.8 beats and you just need to stretch it to 2. I've resorted to old school techniques like reverse looping the tail end of a chop if it doesn't fit right in most cases. However, a big part of it is just me not being used to advanced time stretch because I now realize that I'm doing things like I would need to on an MPC when in reality it's fast to drag a sample to the timeline, trim the start and end, apply flex, and then the chops are perfect.
Just wondering if you are familiar with Scaler 2? If do you have any info on using Scaler in Logic Pro. I know how to do it in Garage band on the iPad, but I could not figure it out in Logic on iPad yet. Thanks
You can monitor the CPU-usage in realtime, and don’t forget that you can freeze tracks to free up CPU. However, Apple should fix this, but those are my 2 cents regarding glitches😊
Totally! Given the raw power of this iPad I don’t think it’s a hardware issue but I’m glad those features are there for larger projects!
Everyone be EASY. This is a great app! Great video Dylan
Thanks for watching 🙏😎
I've been using a 2020 A12z iPad pro 12.9 and I have very good response and speed. I think it only has 6GB ram but it really is fast.
Excellent! I’m glad it’s working well on that machine, I was worried they’d leave those models behind like they did with Final Cut
The same I haven’t experienced any problems with 2020 12.9 ..only thing I’m pissed is my go to auv3 don’t work in logic BLEASS slow motion
Oh man! Hopefully they update that one!
Olá amigo parabéns pelos vídeos!…
Será que o Logic Pro Funciona no iPad 10 geração ?
I wonder when the first patch is going to be released for it, I'm hoping it'll be any day now
It'll probably fix a lot of this stuff that people have had issues with
That would be rad!
Hey, question for you on the iPad front (and maybe you answer this later in the video...only about halfway through). Do you run an audio interface with it for working with it? If so, what are you running? I'm thinking of doing something like that for my iPad, but I want to make sure it still is very "couchable," so having another box that bring with me might make that a little less than fun.
I just use a little usb c adapter for headphones and usb ports usually, but I have an Audient id14 mk2 that uses usb c on both ends for recording mics, synths, and guitar
@@DylanParisMusic You know what? That makes a ton of sense, and I'm not sure why I didn't think of that.
Runining great on my iPad mini 6 with multiple auv3 plugins🔥
Good to hear!!
Thanks for this💯👍🏼
Cool Video! Do you know, when I use a Fabfilter Plugin on iPad and then switch/import my song to the desktop version, does it automatically use your desktopversion of the fabfilter plugin?
I would guess it doesn’t as I don’t think they are universal apps. Hopefully more AUV3s become universal apps though!
My first contact with Logic ever and I love it!
Nice!
Huge? Not really. It’s not offering anything new that warrants a subscription. It’s only good if you’re a die hard Logic fan. But it’s good Apple have finally released this.
Absolutely. Making music on an ipad kind of sucks. I tried korg gadget with the controller, my midi controllers with beatmaker, garage band etc, it’s just kind of gimmicky.
@@heffe4257 erm, not really (for me). I really enjoy using Aum, Audio Evolution, Cubasis3, Drambo & Strokes.
I have worked with logic for well over a decade, couple of years with pro tools due to the job I had and I have added MPC 2 years ago to have fun with...after all this, and even though I have logic on every Mac I own...there is something awfully off putting about it and I can't exactly point it out...now days if I was to produce anything, I just pick up the MPC for the flow...but ofcourse that has its own serious shortcomings , ..as u mentioned I really hope Korg or even Roland further develop their daw like software and bring something new to the table
I agree about the memory allocation. I have an 11 inch M1 but it has 512 and it struggles less 👍
Is 11 inches enough according to u?
I’m hesitant to buy either 11 or 13
Anyone figure out how to import custom exs patches into Logic Pro iPad without importing a Logic Pro for Mac project? I would like to be able to bring over my custom multi-sample patches that I created with auto-sampler in Mainstage. I don't own Logic Pro for the Mac BTW.
But are all the aum auv3’s compatible with it I’m curious 👀 or just some
I believe all AUV3s should be compatible but I could imagine some might have issues with the scaling features of the interface. Everything I’ve tried worked
Thanks a lot !!! Do you think 11 inches is enough? Would be cheaper for me to buy !
I prefer the 12.9 inch screen for Logic but if you can try an 11 inch before you buy you can get a sense for if it would work for you. I know some folks use iPad minis for Logic so it’s definitely possible it just comes down to your preference
@@DylanParisMusic thanks a lot for ur answer pal !! u rock !!
Thanks for watching! 👑🙏
I’m finding something as basic as the sustain button on a piano won’t stay on.
You can record a part with it on, but when you play it back it’s off.
Irritating as all hell.
Oh man, that’s super frustrating!
Yes the sustain pedal is definitely an issue IMO
You can’t record the sustain pedal without Automation… You have to record both the instrument (as MIDI) and sustain pedal simultaneously.
I’ve just tried record a pianopiece from Pianoteq 8 and used my sustain pedal, and it act as it should…
@@DylanParisMusic
You can’t record the sustain pedal without Automation… You have to record both the instrument (as MIDI) and sustain pedal simultaneously.
I’ve just tried record a pianopiece from Pianoteq 8 and used my sustain pedal, and it act as it should…
I have an iPad Mini 6, and on a 6 track proj, I got dropouts as in it stopped playback. I noticed too it's because of the Strings. You can try freezing
Freezing is probably a good idea right now for the strings until they fix them
Hope they iron out those issues before the month is over. Glitches get stitches
Agreed!
But does it has PRO Chords?
Does the M4 need one terabyte / 16 gigs of ram to run optimally?
Probably not, I used an 8 gig M1 iPad pro and it was fine, mostly upgraded for screen size
Thanks Dylan, I meant to say “…when running Logic Pro optimally when learning to produce electronica.”?
@@kanehogan7049 i dont think you’d need it, but could be worth buying an 8 gig ram model and testing it out a bit within the return window first
Can you port in outside apps using Audiobus?
Guys calm down. Its not a game changer and no reason to spend 2000$ just for one app.
Definitely cheaper iPads that run it, but I disagree, it is a game changer, it rules
There’s no such thing as bug free software. It will always have bugs. Especially at version 1. You gotta be patient with it.
Once people can pay for it I’m not gonna be patient, hopefully they use the month
@@DylanParisMusic the current iteration of Logic Pro on the Mac is a decade old and still gets frequent bug fixes every update. It will never be big free. Software is made by imperfect people.
Products people pay money for should function. The goal should always be stability and I’m not giving one of the worlds biggest companies a pass, they had 10 years to make this.
And that said I love the app so far, but I’m absolutely never going to excuse bugs
It’s ok. I’ve move on to Ableton because Apple took too long. So now trying to back track it’s more challenging. They need to fix the Flex stuff and I personally think it’s buggy. Im on the IPad Mini 6. I feel it’s cluttered too. So much menu diving. This is the best on iOS though.
Valid take! It felt a bit cluttered on the 11 inch pro, the mini 6 would be tough for me
@@DylanParisMusic I had the IPad 12.9 and it felt cluttered. I had to constantly close windows.
Midi learn using faders and knobs on a midi controller?
Controller stuff seems not there yet, was hoping for auto pickup of transport control mapping and didn’t see any. Probably room to grow there
Nice song. I like ot better without the horns or mixed low. But niiiiccce
Thank you! Agreed the horns aren’t right
Why you can be sure these are all software issues: cause let’s face it, there are decent daws that do half of what Logic does since like 2013-5 ish (talking as a programmer).
For example, that delay thing you’ve got going is clearly a Bug. No way they “invented” a delay so bad it literally crashes the best mobile processor ever - it has to be glitch.
BTW, maybe you’ve noticed less crashes when using 3rd party AUs? Keep in mind the “plugs” inside logic should technically be literally that, plugs (AUs), so if your other AUs don’t crash as often, you’ve found the culprit (Apple). Would you be surprised? Hahaha let’s be honest.
I get it, everybody loves Logic, but (and I am still watching your video Dylan so NGL you could surprise me!), at the end of the day…. It’s just a DAW. If your old iOS DAW was able to handle it, Logic for iPad SHOULD handle it - and otherwise, it’s cause the devs are lazy.
Anyways, cheers Dude! Glad to see “you’re back” on the iOS grind.
BTW. Did you see the new Akai MPC +? Kinda really scratching an itch rn 😤😂.
And lastly, here’s to hoping Logic Pro gets more than an update per year - otherwise there is NO way I’m keeping it. I already find myself preferring AUM over traditional linear DAWs anyway so going back to the linear workflow to begin with already kinda bothers me (but I do want to try it out, maybe in a few days once I have a break).
Cheers buddy!
Thanks for watching man! Appreciate your insight on this! And yes, the new One+ looks rad!
@@DylanParisMusic did watch through it all! I do like it huh. Don’t get met wrong.. it looks juicy, reminds me of my garage band days on iOS 7 (lol) or something like that (but with the pro side that most daws do not “have” (although that’s why I left daws on iOS behind and moved on to AUM which lets me “create my DAW”), and although I do understand your argument about the monthly cost (and find it reasonable), I still would prefer to pay even the 200 hundos you mention instead.
On the other side, what should ACTUALLY be the model to follow for software (IMO naturally), should be one that is similar to Loopy’s:
One where we get to PAY for yearly / monthly / etc upgrades instead (implying you “keep” the “damaged” goods you’ve purchased and are actually paying mostly to have these things be “fixed” but not simply to use them).
Anyway dude, nice video and congrats on the purchase (iPad)!
Thanks man! And yeah I think the Loopy model is really neat! I’m still waiting for midi loops to be added but I will potentially check it out down the line
to me it is so funny people expecting logic pro providing a general au or vst compatibility. Thats def not the job of logic more of apple. Even more it is funny that ipad plugins are supposed to run on M processors.. so Apple is indeed run into a one way itself
The strings and horns load to the system's ram. If you run out of memory you get silence.
It's not a bug, you have to freeze some tracks on devices with less memory.
It seems like a bug if the system ram is 16 gigs and the entire strings pack is 2.5 gigs
Or even 8 on the M1 Pro I tested
@@DylanParisMusic Yes, you're right
@@DylanParisMusic Do you get too much latency? I was tracking some guitars today and the latency was driving me crazy.
how do you bounch each track as stems?
this guide walks through that 😊: support.apple.com/en-om/guide/logicpro-ipad/lpip1f5dd156/ipados
@@DylanParisMusic hey bro you are a genius thank you so much i was all night yesterday trying to figure that out
one more thing, do you know how to use third party synths in logic?
Yep! Load a synth plug-in, use the middle knob icon to see the plugin, hit the pencil to remove it, then use add instrument in the center to browse a list of all plugins including third party
@@DylanParisMusic i did that, i have the iprophet but it doesnt seem to appear there
It needs flex pitch :/
Fair!
Logic Pro on the iPad is huge ….. I agree …. a huge mistake !!
Any Subscription-Based DAW is not the future I am looking for.
fair enough!
hmmm, actually it is kinda underwhelming, it’s like a souped up Garage band, the synths and effects are simplified versions of the desktop Logic for example, it is not the full Logic Pro by any means, not even close.
Lol yup, and you have to pay monthly for it.
Definitely a different beast, but I’m glad they didn’t just port mouse and KB logic to the iPad to be honest, the portability of just using the iPad but having all these tools at my fingertips is really neat
No vsts? Subscription? So this app is not for me.
Fair enough!
Pro-tip ... If an app is not available to purchase don't get it.
Totally understand the perspective of folks who don't want a subscription only app!
Was somewhat interested, found out it was subscription only now not interested in any way. 🤣
fair!
It’s even better on my mbp, because it’s already paid for.
Hahaha fair enough 😎
@@DylanParisMusic Haha. I appreciate the video though, man.
Thanks man! I always appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@DylanParisMusic Absolutely, bro! Love your content. Always hoping for the “Maschine Plus MK2 is here!!” One. 😂
Not a fan of logic Pro
Fair enough!