Caring for the Voice after Vocal Fold Surgery | Phonosurgery |
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2017
- How to care for your voice after vocal fold surgery. Vocal Fold Surgery, at the best of times, can be a daunting experience. During the surgical procedure, we have virtually no control and we have to trust in the skills of the surgeon and theatre staff. But the moment we wake from general anaesthetic we become an active player in our post-operative recovery.
So, what can we do after phonosurgery to secure the best possible outcome for ourselves and our voice? I’m glad you asked. Stick around…I’ve got some super handy tips that will have you up and singing again soon.
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Just had some nasty bilateral lesions removed that had been growing since 2020. Been on rest for just less than 24 hours. Talking isnt the problem. The ulvula necrosis is the problem. I absolutely have to cough/clear my throat.
Thank you so much for this video. It is just what I need to know in my present situation. Your video provides the best and most detailed information I could find on the internet. I love your channel!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video Tabea Kunz. Thanks for watching.
Dan can u please make a vid about how to improve the timbre of your voice? Like vocal exercises that'll make your voice sound more pleasant
Thank Dan for your Valuable inputs...it helped a lot for me
Glad it was helpful!
TY very much for this! What about anti-reflux medication? my doc prescribed for 6 weeks after surgery.... THANKS!
Rachel, I think the following video about reflux will prove helpful - ua-cam.com/video/XAwsteNLH3s/v-deo.html
thank you. you are helping me so much to feel more positive about this whole thing. really grateful!!!!
I was been surgery to remove my thyriod what you will advice me thanks for your answer sir because i miss my voice in singing
Doctor i do a surgey for papilomatose After one mounth and half i still not recuprrated m'y vioce what should i do
I had laryngoscopy bilateral vocal cord injections for age related issues. The doctor told me to rest my voice a couple days then proceed according to how I feel. I want the best possible outcome to sing again! When can I start exercising my singing voice?
I am a 24 year old male. I have a small pseudocyst on the very edge at the top of my right cord. And it only effects my head voice/falsetto notes when they are about to resonate which go from C5-C6. It’s a head voice reminiscent of the mezzo soprano because my puberty wasn’t that drastic. But I have a light bright toned tenor chest voice. My question is if voice therapy doesn’t work and I need surgery. Do you think the range, tone, resonance and sustainability would return the same way when I recover?
One can never provide absolute guarantees. However, a good surgeon should be able to provide good results.
I had parathyroidectomy surgery just over two weeks ago, and I still have a very hoarse voice. I was given no direction by my surgeon for voice hoarseness. When I first spoke with him after recovery from surgery my voice was normal, but then it went hoarse. I did have some phone conversations during these 2 weeks, but kept my talking to a bare minimum. I am trying to totally rest my voice as much as possible, but there are times when I have to order food at a fast food drive-thru, and that makes a total voice rest impossible. I am also looking for a house for myself, but refraining from contacting any realtors at this time. Please give me some positive suggestions. I am likely going to visit my local clinic for some direction tomorrow or the next day.
Bob, I would recommend seeking an assessment from a laryngologist.
Hi Doctor Dan I just had vocal chord surgery the 1st of this month. Thank you for this great content. Can you direct me to vocal warmups to help me rebuild my voice. I have a voice specialist who wants me to just do straight monotone “Eee” for as long as I can hold the note. Nothing else until my 1st video visit with her in May.... because she’s so busy and there is no openings at all til May:(
Unfortunately, it would be inappropriate for me to offer any further advice to the care and direction you are already receiving from your voice specialist.
It sounds like I've spent most of my life on relative voice rest! 😅 I was wondering about the psychology of the recovery process. Maybe I'm looking for different people's stories about needing, undergoing and recovering from voice surgery.
That’s an interesting perspective! 😊 The psychological aspect of recovering from voice surgery can indeed be significant. Many people find it helpful to hear about others' experiences during their recovery journeys.
The emotional impact of voice surgery can vary widely. It’s completely normal to feel a mix of anxiety, fear, relief, and hope. Embracing these emotions and understanding that they are part of the process can make the journey smoother.
Recovery requires a lot of patience and a positive mindset. Setting realistic expectations and celebrating small milestones can make a big difference. Many people find solace in hearing stories from those who have undergone similar experiences. Forums and support groups are great places to find these personal accounts.
Working closely with voice therapists and medical professionals is crucial. Their guidance and support can be invaluable. Incorporating relaxation techniques, mindfulness, and other holistic practices can also help manage stress and promote overall well-being during recovery.
ive tried using lemon and honey tea...and it added high notes g4 and g#4..but its not consistent nor sustained... these two notes are new notes...idk if I am in mixed voice or I am singing in chest voice(I think e4-g4 is my break)..
Dr Dan's Voice Essentials what do you mean by TA dominance ?
Hi, I had a vocal cord cyst surgery 12 days back. Everything was ok and the healing process was also fine. But all of a sudden I got cough and cold. So, I want to know does it (coughing) has a bad impact on my vocal cord or will it affect my voice in any case?
I am very much worried.
Jyoti, I understand your concern. The best advice I can give you is to arrange a consult with your attending surgeon at the soonest possible time.
Yes
What is the point of offering “advice” if your just gonna say : consult your surgeon?
Hi Dr Dan, Didn’t have surgery but had 30 rounds of radiation for cancer on left vocal fold. Both talking and swallowing still weak and painful. Advice?
How long of voice rest would you say a vocal cord injection would require? My surgeon didn't put me on any voice rest according to my discharge instructions and won't be able to reach him in another 2 weeks. Would greatly appreciate it
I would recommend contacting the surgeon for detailed advice.
I’m getting a vocal injection next week, how is your voice now?
@@manuelhodgson3736 was a tough journey so far. Voice ended up severely cracky for about 3 months, I'm barely starting to notice improvements now.
@@anthonyquevedo474 did you get it under general anesthesia? I am supposed to get it but I’m scared of needles!! We’re you able to talk after the surgery?
Dan,
I was recently diagnosed with sulcus. The indications were loss of range and stamina. The ent spoke about vocal injections to help with closure. I can’t seem to find anything helpful regarding results for the professional voice. Have you had any students or experience with fold injections? I’m hopeful that this procedure may give me my voice back. Thanks
A sulcus is a tricky one for the professional voice user. It is often treated with injections, but its always difficult to know how successful the injection will be and how long its effects will last. Generally, I suggest that when an ENT has recommended injections, that you give it a try once and see how your voice responds.
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Hope it's okay to ask you yet another quesiton. So post-surgery, after a week's prescribed vocal rest, when I tried to speak, only a whisper comes out. No vibration at all. I texted my doc right away who said, "Not to worry, all will be okay." She then said to stay on vocal rest another two days. My question to you is, have you heard of this? I am hoping it's not too uncommon. I realize you are not my doc, but thought I'd put it out there, in case you have some feedback to offer. THANKS!
Rachel, it all depends on the type of surgery you have had and the type of intubation used. Follow the surgeon's advice, and hopefully, all will be well.
How did you end up? My mom had vocal cord surgery to remove polyps last week and she can only whisper. She can't talk in her normal voice even if she tried. It's completely hoarse like having laryngitis 😔 How long did it take you to get your somewhat normal voice back?
Are u ok now?
After how many days ur voice become normal??
Hi Dan I a Had a polyp removed from left vocal chord 4 days ago. I have been resting my voice but if I try to talk I can only hear a airy sound and my voice is a whisper. Is this in your opinion normal? My voice was ok when I woke up from surgery
I'm unable to offer any advice besides seeing a Speech Pathologist as soon as possible so that you can begin your rehabilitation asap.
@@DrDanRobinson Thanks
Another question. I had surgery last Thursday. In addition to one week's vocal rest, I was told to (physically) rest for ten days (i.e, not to bend over, go outside if I don't have to, etc.). What is the point of this? How extensitve is it meant to be? It's very difficult as a mom who feels pretty 'normal' physically to rest from all of the zillions of things I usually do each day. I am trying though! THANKS!!!
Rachel, your larynx plays an important and integral role in allowing you to 'lift' and form muscular engagement. Instructing you to restrict your physical movement helps to protect the larynx (vocal folds) while they heal.
so fascinating. thank you very much for taking the time to answer!
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Hi Dr Dan. I am a 58 yr old singer who has had surgeries 3 years ago on my vocal cords. One was to remove a small nodule on my left vocal cord, and the other was to clean up the right vocal cord from a hemorrhage that had healed. My doctor said that everything went fine and cords look great and sent me to voice therapy for 1 month. My natural voice is stronger than ever but my head voice is practically nonexistent with the exception of when I make an “Oooh or Eeee” sound which is very strong and I can do with ease. When I do try to sing in my upper register, I get a high, very light sound that is not strong at all and hard to control. So I have 2 questions for you Doctor Dan, 1) is that high pitched, light sound that comes out a falsetto? 2) Why would I only be able to sing Ooh’s and Eee’s in my head voice?
Hello. I have undergone Microlaryngoscopy 15 days ago. Still my voice is not getting generated and the hoarseness continues. I was on absolute voice rest post surgery for a week. Please advise me what can I do to get my voice back. Is it normal to take this much time
I highly recommend working with a Speech Pathologist to assist with your vocal recovery.
I got my surgery last year .. I took total vocal rest for almost a month .. But now i don't find my loaded voice on high pitches .. What can i do to recover that ?
Do you lose your singing range after t3 thyroplasty? before after videos only include basic speech patterns. and even in them i can feel the voice lost its power. pitch is lowered yes and tone has zero change yet new voice has a rough feeling to it. can anyone comment on it?
B P, the following video may prove helpful - ua-cam.com/video/1HNtCsDeFBE/v-deo.html
Hey Dr. Dan it has been 2 months since I had this vocal polyp removed from my vocal cords. My voice is trying to return, but it still gets hoarse if I talk for a long time and I still experience throat pain. I was trying to see Is this still normal to experience this ?
I'm not a medical doctor, but I can tell you that recovery from vocal cord surgery can vary greatly from person to person and depends on a variety of factors, including the type and extent of the surgery, individual healing rate, and adherence to postoperative care. However, persistent hoarseness and throat pain two months after surgery could suggest that your voice may be healing slower than expected, or there could be other issues at play. It's important that you communicate these ongoing issues to your healthcare provider or a specialist, such as an otolaryngologist (ear, nose, and throat doctor) or a speech-language pathologist. They can provide guidance based on your specific situation and potentially adjust your recovery plan to better address these symptoms. Please follow their advice closely, including any recommendations for vocal rest, hydration, and possibly voice therapy.
Hi Dan I had vocal cord surgery end of August, I haven't really started singing until now Mid-November, not sure if I waited too long because I can't seem to sing in full voice let alone still sing the way I know I can. Could it be a mental thing because I haven't sung yet mainly because I was scared or I just can't anymore? YELP?!
Thapelo, have you been receiving any voice therapy post-surgery? It will take time for your voice to return to its pre-operative state; and generally speaking only with good voice therapy to guide you.
@@DrDanRobinson No not really, though the therapist I was assigned to did tell me what to do at home at my own discretion.
In terms of exercises at home. I guess my question is. Should I actually sing, the last thing I want is for my cords to become stiff, feels like they are already... I've been quiet for 3 months.
It is not appropriate for me to give you advice on UA-cam in this particular circumstance. Your voice requires specific care, preferably in a one-on-one session(s) with a therapist and/or singing voice specialist.
@@DrDanRobinson got you.
Hi there I have Lazer surgery in a week, I have nodules 😭😭 how long would it take to heal.
Best you talk with your surgeon about this...I hope the surgery goes well!
I have nodules (as they claim but I haven't seen any of the ct scans) I think they are lying to use me as a guinea pig. I'm going to write to the medical board since they actually expect me to believe them without seeing anything. I had a cancer removed but actually I don't even know what's going on. Surgery was yesterday vans they cut some of my lyrnex all crooked and I know it will never be the same again. My voice is forever ruined and I feel no reason to even live anymore. I'll just cancel all appointments and allow myself to die now. I'll come back in spirit and haunt both first surgeon and second surgeon.
Do it if life matters to you but you must know the surgeon honestly doesn't care how messy they cut you up. They destroyed my singing voice and high pitch and I sound like a strained voice. They refuse to give me anti biotic and tell me take tylenol and ibuprofen and to not talk. They also showed me colored pictures of the lyrnex before, during and after when I woke up and was all groggy and I wanted to keep it but they said it goes in my file so I requested a colored copy of it and they refused. )They probably thought I was just an average stupid person that couldn't think straight after waking up ) I told them to give me my purse. They reached under the bed in the basket and gave it to me, I took my gone and took a video of it and snapped a close-up. When I got home and sedative was completely worn off and the cloud in my head was cleared up I looked at the pictures and saw that he cut my lyrnex in zig zag ways. I will never ever grow that shin back to fill the gap of the lyrnex closing completely. Just a heads up, do not let them get away with not giving you a copy and if they do refuse you need to think clearly and pull your phone out and take pictures!
What diet should be taken after vocal cord polyp surgery
Generally, your surgeon will instruct you on when to move from fluids to solids.
What if it has been over almost 2 and a half months and I still haven’t been able to see the speech therapist? Can that reduce my chances of full recovery?
Hi, did you get to have some voice therapy and has your voice recovered? I am interested because I am four weeks post-op for microlarynoscopy for nodules and my voice still sounds hoarse and strained. Have started seeing a voice therapist this week. How is your voice?
No I never did speech therapy but I bought some books on it and did the exercises which helped. My voice sounds pretty good now.
Hi Annette. How did your voice recover in the end? I’m 2 weeks post op and starting to panic as my voice is strained, quiet and hoarse 😭
Interesting topic.
I was close to surgery once Dan. I had a doctor who thought it was the only option. Thank God I sought a second opinion. The two doctors had completely different opinions. One said polyp, the other nodule.
I'm fine now. Nodules. It went away with steaming, rest, voice therapy and prayer. Thankfully, I was in between bands. Scary as hell though.
I'd be bricking it n all! May I ask how you got nodules? I assume it was over singing?
I really don't know how to be honest. But according to the voice therapist & the doctor and all the people I spoke to, it could have been from a number of things, singing, speaking, even a short uncontrolled screaming or yelling episode can traumatize. Nodules (correct me if I'm wrong Dan), are generally friction oriented maladies. Also sustained breathy phonating can make the folds vulnerable.
Hello, I am planing for a vocal surgery. I am from India, my vocal cord paralysed during an operation for pneumonia in 1992. I had visited lots of ENT doctor, but my voice is not normal. Now in 2018, while surfing the net I got the number of a doctor in India who suggested me for vocal cord surgery (mobilisation) . I just want to know, how much time it will take for me to recover and will I be able to sing? Is it risky? Kindly reply
Usha, the ENT should talk you through all of the risks as well as the possible outcomes.
Dr Dan's Voice Essentials ever since I had my tonsils removed,my voice has been just air at time.
How can I fix it?!
Hello sir, I have a polyp on my vocal cord and doctor has suggested a surgery for me. I wanna take ur advice whether i should go for it or not as i m scared of it. I ve a doubt whether i would be able to speak after surgery or not . plz reply
It is not for me to advise surgery or not. This being said, the surgical techniques used by many ENT's now are very good and should leave a voice in better condition post intervention.
Hello brother I just had my surgery today. Have you already done your surgery? If yes please help me
@@Nileshkhadka did ur voice fully recovered after surgery , r u able to talk much and is there any chance that this polyp can come back again if i continue my teaching profession
@@Nileshkhadka how are you now
I've had surgery 1 week ago because I lost my voice due to some autoimmune processes. Speaking really deep was still possible, but when I spoke normal or higher I sounded like Mickey Mouse. :( Now my voice is coming back after operation and it sounds exactly the same. Please tell me that's normal, I'm a Psychologist I can't afford sounding this weird. :(
Hello, Lila. I cannot offer you any feedback, other than every journey of recovery is different. I encourage you to discuss this with your doctor.
What does vocal rest mean? I was told no to utter a single word for 7 days. That sounds extreme.
John Ramirez, the following video about vocal rest may prove helpful - ua-cam.com/video/_dSYx7yeglY/v-deo.html
One question is it possible someone who is baritone to chanche his voice like in tenor range but not like girl range?
Your biology is set...but you can develop your technique to improve your vocal range.
@@DrDanRobinson thanks for answering ...
I had laser surgery to remove cyst . 5 weeks ago and my voice still goes horse after talking for 15 min
How long before it's ok and when can I sing fully again
Peter, I would check in with your surgeon to look into the recovery of your voice.
Hi Dr Dan,
My mom is not a singer, but she had polyps removed from her vocal cords about 6 days ago. It was not laser surgery.
She was instructed to rest her voice for 5 days.
Well, she cant let out more than a whisper and she sounds super hoarse. Like when someone has laryngitis? Just like that. She couldn't talk normal or low if she tried. Is this a common occurrence after surgery? She does have a follow up appointment with him next Wednesday but she's completely down about this and feels like she will never be able to talk again. Is it common to have no voice (only a raspy whisper) after polyp removal surgery of the vocal cords?
Everyone's recovery is different. I highly recommend for you mom to see a speech and language pathologist who specialises in voice as soon as is reasonably possible.
@@DrDanRobinson Thank you!
How about her voice now .because I had this surgery.it's been 13 days yet i couldn't talk .pls reply me
@@shabrinthamishullah8061 it was absolute hell and she made my life miserable over her not being able to talk, but she did get her voice back. Everyone’s different but it took her about 3 to 4 months. Just rest your voice and DO NOT whisper as it forces your voice-box too much and can delay healing. You’ll be able to talk again so no worries.
@@shabrinthamishullah8061 also, she didn’t have to see a speech and language pathologist. Like everything else, time heals all wounds. You’ll be fine I promise. It just takes time.
After vocal cord cyst surgery , steam inhalation is it important to take after vocal cord cyst surgery?
Best to ask your surgeon what they recommend.
Hi doctor I have had surgery over a week ago, and my voice is still completely gone. Please help me
Please see your consulting physician for a check up.
Hi there,
My mom had this surgery a week ago and she's freaking out because her voice is completely hoarse and she cant talk normal even if she tried. How long did it take you to get your normal voice back?
@@krystalroxX7 now she is ok?
U got back ur voice?
@@avishekrana4832 yes after months of taking it easy. Not the same though
I got my voice back after 20 day whitout voice therapy is that fine
That's fine, but it is advisable to seek some voice therapy also.
Its been almost 4 weeks after having a vocal polyp removed from my vocals cords and my voice stills sounds hoarse
Firstly, it's great to hear that you've taken the necessary steps towards vocal health by having your vocal polyp removed. Understandably, you're eager to hear improvement in your voice, and it can be concerning when progress seems slow.
However, please remember that healing from such a procedure takes time. Your vocal folds are delicate structures that have been through significant trauma. After this type of surgery, a recovery period of several weeks, or even a few months, is not uncommon.
During this time, following your doctor's advice about voice rest and gentle voice use is crucial. Overusing your voice or attempting to force your voice back to normal too quickly can potentially slow your recovery or cause further damage.
It's also a good idea to work with a speech-language pathologist or a voice therapist who can guide you through safe and effective vocal exercises to help restore your voice gradually.
Remember, everyone heals at their own pace, and it's essential to be patient with your body as it heals. Your voice may continue to improve over the coming weeks and months.
While it's important to listen to your body and seek medical advice if you're concerned about your progress, I encourage you to stay positive and patient. Your voice has been through a lot and deserves the time it needs to recover. Wishing you a smooth and successful recovery
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***** Haha, I meant I was fourth watching the video :p
no crying? Oh no.....