One thing not mentioned was this was during the same period that Hoosier tires were running in the cup series and they seemed fast for short stints but then dropped off fast.
That's true, but there were a lot of guys who won on Hoosiers. I think Loy was just really talented with running all out (hence the qualifying success) but didn't know how to back it down to 90-95% to make it through a race
Umm??? What??? Other drivers for Hooters prior to Loy Allen Jr were: 1988: #07 Larry Moyer 1987 Pontiac 2+2 (Rookie Contender only made 1 race) 1990: #82 Mark Stahl Auto Bell Car Wash/Hooters Ford (began as a co-sponsor late in the season) 1990 #0-Jim Sauter Masters Inn/Hooters Ford (logo appeared on hood after Mark Stahl DNQed for season finale...Sauter was subbing for Delma Cowart....Cowart's shop was next door to Stahl's so the sponsorship was transferred to the #0 after the #82 DNQ) 1991: #82 Mark Stahl Ford (was supposed to be a full-season sponsorship but the team DNQ'ed for their first 4 races and they moved to the #7 team beginning at Atlanta) #89-Jim Sauter Evinrude/Hooters Pontiac (after Stahl DNQ'ed at Atlanta, Hooters began their relationship with Alan Kulwicki...however most don't know that it was Sauter who introduced them...Hooters was also on the hood of Sauter's #89 for the race only after the #82 DNQ since they already had experience together the prior race at Atlanta when Sauter drove Delma Cowart's #0....while finalizing the one-race deal in 1991 at Atlanta, Sauter introduced Hooters CEO Bob Brooks to another unsponsored driver, Alan Kulwicki and the rest is history!) They also sponsored Loy Allen Jr in 5 races in 1993 while driving his family-owned #37 through their Naturally Fresh Salad Dressing line. Several years later, they would also sponsor #44-Jeff Purvis for Phoenix Racing through their Jack-a-roo Barby-Q Sauce products for a handful of races in James Finch's Chevy.
I'm honestly surprised you hadn't made this one yet. The 1994 Daytona 500 was the first Daytona 500 I ever saw on TV, and as a kid I kinda wondered why he flamed out. Adult me went back and rewatched a lot of races from 1994 not too long ago... and ... well... I wasn't as surprised. Nobody wanted to draft with him at Daytona, which isn't surprising, nobody wanted to draft with rookies on plate tracks back then.
His issues at Daytona were two fold. 1 - The Hoosier tires were lousy that weekend. They were fast for a few laps but that was it. When lead Hoosier driver Geoff Bodine turned the 125 into a tire test, that’s all you needed to know. They were junk. Once Loy had Goodyears on, he lost most of his speed. 2 - I’ve always wondered what the reception to Loy was in the garage area. Here’s a guy that Hooters insisted on taking over a champions ride even though anyone in the garage knew he wasn’t ready. Not to mention that was against Alan’s own wishes. Between that and his allegiance to Hoosier tires, not much reason for Goodyear vets to give him a break.
I have a diecast of his #19 Hooters Ford and its one of my originals that still has paint on it! Still, I can't help but think Hoosier tires contributed to those super fast pole speeds, there was a tire war going on in NASCAR around this time. I was always Team Goodyear but I guess Loy's team was Hoosier.
Been waiting for a video on Loy Allen Jr. for some time and it's well worth the wait.^^ Sometimes, qualifying pace doesn't always translate to race pace...
yeah those small teams would do things like disconnect the alternator belt...then reconnect it on the parade laps...stuff like that was common...race pace was more important to the teams that actually had a chance at winning...
to be fair he had some bad luck too...had kulwicki not dies he peobably runs busch for a few years and gets more laps which would have helped him make the transition...plus the fact most of his poles were go or go home meant the emphasis was entirely on making the field....so rave pace was an afterthought.....joe nemechek used to qualify very well too when he was deiving his own car...and usually ran in back because it was all about making the race
One driver that reminds me of him was F1 driver Antonio Pizzonia. He known to do a hot lap in practice or qualifying, but lacked serious race day pace. Mark Weber owned the guy so bad that Jaguar replaced him halfway through the season.
Ah, Loy Allen, Jr. A sad story that began sadly and ended not too much better. Loy actually was on a short-term deal with Hooters when he won the 1992 ARCA season finale at Atlanta when Hooters big wigs were present (no doubt in town for the 1992 Hooters 500 championship weekend with Alan Kulwicki in contention). That win landed Loy more races with Hooters sponsorship in the ARCA series in 1993. Loy's Cup escapades in 1993 were actually with the family-run team, not Tri-Star. He made one start with Tri-Star at the end of 1993 at Phoenix, with the #68 Country Time livery and everything, but the season finale at Atlanta was back with his own family team, the #37, where he's shown here crashing out. He was actually involved in the famous Stanley Smith-Jimmy Horton wreck at Talladega in 1993 in which Smith suffered a basilar skull fracture and Horton flew over the wall. You can see Allen, Jr. spinning at the bottom of the track. Bob Brooks wanted Loy Allen, Jr. in the car simply because Loy was already under contract with Hooters and Brooks didn't want to deal with another business transaction type deal in the wake of the tragic deaths of his son and friends/coworkers. Keep in mind, at the time, there was no Craftsman Truck Series (that would begin in 1995) and there wasn't a whole lot of difference between the back of the Cup pack and the middle of the Busch Series pack at the time. A lot of teams opted to try to make and run Cup races for the bigger purse and get a foothold that way instead of toiling in the Busch Series for smaller purses. This was Tri-Star's strategy first with Derrike Cope, then Bobby Hamilton and Country Time, then with Loy Allen, Jr. and Hooters. Unfortunately, Tri-Star didn't have the most money in the world, and also keep in mind most of the tracks Loy saw on the Cup tour in 1994 were his first time seeing them. He had already raced at Daytona, Atlanta, and Michigan in the ARCA series, sites of his three Cup poles, before. The tougher tracks he debuted at, like Darlington and the short tracks, resulted in DNQ for Loy due to those factors plus reduced field sizes at short tracks that were still in effect at that time. Loy was (and probably still is) a very personable and thus a good interview. I've talked to a couple guys who used to crew in the sport and they said Loy would answer your question and then some. That no doubt helped him land Hooters and later Health Source as sponsors. All in all, it was really not good timing for Loy to be in the Cup series. A couple of years later, who knows, he could have gotten some seasoning in the Trucks, then Busch, then been in Cup solidly with a decent ride by, say, 1998. It might have turned out differently, but we'll never know.
Derrike Cope never drove for TriStar. Hamilton was their first full time effort. At the time Mark Smith was a pretty well known engine builder in the garage and TriStar supplied engines to many teams. That included Loy’s Cup efforts in 1993.
@@mwdiphone you're right Cope never drove for Tri-Star. He did have a connection to their 1991 Bobby Hamiton team in that Tri-Star bought the equipment of Cope's defunct team owned by Jim Tesla. Also, Mark Smith and Dave Fuge, who were the primary figures at Tri Star, had worked with Cope At Tesla's team.
Loy's a good guy. I went to school with his sister., drive by their old home place every day on the way to town. Sure wish he could've made it in the series.
@@psychlops924 I haven't seen him in a good while, but I could probably get a message to him if need be. I've got some friends that race that can probably locate him faster than I can.
@@mikenonya6382 I really don't know. My cousin knows him alot better than me, but I've told him to help me try and loctate him, you know to get him the message. If I hear anything I'll add to this comment for sure.
Black Flag my dad worked on Loy Allen's ARCA car and can be seen in the victory lane interview. When I was 14 years old I helped them put the decals on the CUP car that Loy ran in the 1993 the Naturally Fresh 37 car. The team which was only about 5 guys tried to talk Loy's dad into running for the full ARCA season to get him more seat time since all they ran at the time was the big tracks. But they decide to wanted to just jump to Cup at least would have been better off at least running Busch. He never ran any Busch races before just jumping to Cup. The cars they had were came from Robert Yates and were some of the old Davey Allen cars.
Right. Not sure if it's the same in NASCAR but in normal racing if you focus too much on having a fast qualifying car, it compromises your race because you won't have a very good race car. Once you add in fuel and stuff to the equation it affects your balance which will affect race pace and drivability. The fact that he qualified 2mph faster and was losing the rear in the races suggests to me that this is what happened and why he couldn't carry it on to the race. The car was setup to be a good qualifying car but not a good race car.
The #37 car he drove for 5 races in 1993 was owned by Loy's father not Tri-Star Motorsports. Naturally Fresh (the sponsor of the #37) is owned by Hooters. It's their brand of salad dressing.
6:01 - how you managed to find his name in the only Winston Cup race he ever started and publish it within hours of his death is beyond me. R.I.P. Bob.
Dude was like the real life version of Kenny Wallace in NASCAR Thunder 2004. Kenny would always qualify on the front row in that game and be out of the top 10 in the first couple of laps lol
Like almost all nascar busts, Loy Allen Jr was rushed up WAY too early. You don’t go from ARCA straight to Cup. That’s not how driver development works. He had the speed, he had the skills, but he never quite had the experience because he came quickly and left quickly, and that’s why he was a bust. I will say, I liked his qualifying efforts, and his Hooter schemes were nice. Chase’s brown and orange one is better though, and Alan’s were the best.
He's almost like the Maverick Vinales (from MotoGP) of Nascar. Fast on every testing and practice + qualifying session but always having lack of pace on the race. Although Vinales has scored himself a few wins and podiums tho
Even though he was a bust. The one thing I'll never forget is his hooters car with the blue stripe and the blue number. That car was one of my favorites
The reason he got that top ten was because of 7 time winning crew chief Chad Knaus (Chad called DW in DW’s final year and well the start of him driving that car was just meme worthy according to Chad he immediately gets in the car and drives into a trash can lol)
If memory serves, Compton got that Top 10 in the 2001 Daytona 500 when 2/3 of the field crashed out. He had qualified in the Top 3 for that race, so as long as he didn’t get caught up in a wreck, which he didn’t, he was probably good for a Top 10. That was Melling Racing’s (famously fast on the RP tracks) last hurrah.
To Mr Brooks credit he stayed in racing by stating the Hooters series later became the Hooters Cup series where a number of drivers moved up to NASCAR and did very well.
You could be the best ARCA prospect there is, and when/if you make it to the Cup Series, and you don't maintain consistent runs, on a regular basis,, all of the success you had in the lower series, gets extinguished with the snap of a finger, and that's the way it is..
Speaking of random Diecasts, I have a Diecast 1:64 of Loy Allen’s 19 Hooters Car from 94 in one of my Drawers filled with other NASCAR Diecasts, along with Gary Bradberry’s 78 Pilot car from 98.
On so many of these busts, I wonder how much of it was a lack of talent and how much was it the team. So many of these races (and wrecks) seem like a car on the razors edge of ultra speed on its own but too far over the edge for running in dirty air
I think in the case of Loy Allen it was he was rushed into Cup and wasn't ready for it. Maybe with more experience i the lower series he would have done better.
Hooters went with Brett bodine because? He made races, kept car clean more than wrecking it, he knew how to bring the car home, he never out drove the car so it would not break anything that didn’t need to break. My opinion.
Loy was 1 of 4 drivers (along with Harry Gant, Jimmy Spencer, and fellow rookie Ward Burton) who both won a Busch Pole Award AND failed to qualify during the 1994 season. No doubt the tire war contributed to that, but it also indicated how competitive Winston Cup had become. Remember, Dale Jarrett won the Mello Yello 500 at Charlotte the week after missing the field at North Wilkesboro. Eventually, 1994 would be eclipsed by the 1997 and 2001 seasons, in which 7 different drivers would both win a pole and DNQ (sometimes more than one of each) in the same season.
I was there at Rockingham the day he had that nasty accident. He was out for a while after that. I remember Loy wanted to do the Busch Series after Hooters went away to hone his skills, but couldn't find a ride. Probably needed more time and a better team.
The one thing I remember about Loy Allen is the time he crashed under caution during the 1994 Daytona ARCA race. I once had a tape of this, but can’t find it.
He was a cup bust, smoked the field for the pole for daytona 500, won multiple cup poles and dominate car several arca races (won at atlanta) though ALOT MORE than most can say!!!! Also added to the beautiful hooter's paint scheme legacy!!!! ALOT OF TODAYS BIGGEST YOUNG PROSPECTS WILL NEVER ACCOMPLISH or achieve WHAT HE DID!!!!!
I despise this guy for abandoning the 7. Kulwicki gave them a championship and they couldn't even finish the season to keep the team going. If course it was because of his hard-on for loy Allen jr
Chad chaffin Andy Lally Ed berrier Jeff Fuller Patrick carpentier Mike garvey Chad Blount Terry cook Jack sprague Andy Houston Rich bickle Josh wise Brian Scott Buckshot Jones David Green Jeff Green Hermie Sadler Mike bliss Ron barfield Phil bonifield Rick Wilson Wally dallenbach- great announcer, cup career? Geez....... especially being in a rick Hendrick owned car and crap to show for it
This is kind of gruesome, but I remember years ago getting into a conversation with some other NASCAR fans and the topic was the unpleasant one of who was the active driver who was most likely to get killed in a race, and I said Loy Allen. Because could be fast, but he wasn't as good as he was fast. I turned out to be almost right because his career was pretty much ended by that crash in Rockingham, which, from the descriptions I've read, sounded like almost a basilar skull fracture. He raced a few times after that, but his career was pretty much over.
I remember watching him qualify on the pole for the 1994 Daytona 500 I thought man this guy is fast and that’s all I remember about his career
One thing not mentioned was this was during the same period that Hoosier tires were running in the cup series and they seemed fast for short stints but then dropped off fast.
That's true, but there were a lot of guys who won on Hoosiers. I think Loy was just really talented with running all out (hence the qualifying success) but didn't know how to back it down to 90-95% to make it through a race
So did Loy!
other drivers for Hooters: ⚪️🟠
Loy Allen Jr: ⚪️🔵🟠
Umm??? What??? Other drivers for Hooters prior to Loy Allen Jr were:
1988: #07 Larry Moyer 1987 Pontiac 2+2 (Rookie Contender only made 1 race)
1990: #82 Mark Stahl Auto Bell Car Wash/Hooters Ford (began as a co-sponsor late in the season)
1990 #0-Jim Sauter Masters Inn/Hooters Ford (logo appeared on hood after Mark Stahl DNQed for season finale...Sauter was subbing for Delma Cowart....Cowart's shop was next door to Stahl's so the sponsorship was transferred to the #0 after the #82 DNQ)
1991: #82 Mark Stahl Ford (was supposed to be a full-season sponsorship but the team DNQ'ed for their first 4 races and they moved to the #7 team beginning at Atlanta)
#89-Jim Sauter Evinrude/Hooters Pontiac (after Stahl DNQ'ed at Atlanta, Hooters began their relationship with Alan Kulwicki...however most don't know that it was Sauter who introduced them...Hooters was also on the hood of Sauter's #89 for the race only after the #82 DNQ since they already had experience together the prior race at Atlanta when Sauter drove Delma Cowart's #0....while finalizing the one-race deal in 1991 at Atlanta, Sauter introduced Hooters CEO Bob Brooks to another unsponsored driver, Alan Kulwicki and the rest is history!)
They also sponsored Loy Allen Jr in 5 races in 1993 while driving his family-owned #37 through their Naturally Fresh Salad Dressing line.
Several years later, they would also sponsor #44-Jeff Purvis for Phoenix Racing through their Jack-a-roo Barby-Q Sauce products for a handful of races in James Finch's Chevy.
I'm honestly surprised you hadn't made this one yet. The 1994 Daytona 500 was the first Daytona 500 I ever saw on TV, and as a kid I kinda wondered why he flamed out. Adult me went back and rewatched a lot of races from 1994 not too long ago... and ... well... I wasn't as surprised.
Nobody wanted to draft with him at Daytona, which isn't surprising, nobody wanted to draft with rookies on plate tracks back then.
*Laughs in 2011 Trevor Bayne*
His issues at Daytona were two fold. 1 - The Hoosier tires were lousy that weekend. They were fast for a few laps but that was it. When lead Hoosier driver Geoff Bodine turned the 125 into a tire test, that’s all you needed to know. They were junk. Once Loy had Goodyears on, he lost most of his speed. 2 - I’ve always wondered what the reception to Loy was in the garage area. Here’s a guy that Hooters insisted on taking over a champions ride even though anyone in the garage knew he wasn’t ready. Not to mention that was against Alan’s own wishes. Between that and his allegiance to Hoosier tires, not much reason for Goodyear vets to give him a break.
I only know him for being the Daytona 500 pole sitter during the worst Daytona speedweeks in NASCAR history.
I met him at Pocono and he was really nice, actually showed me his arca hauler
I have a diecast of his #19 Hooters Ford and its one of my originals that still has paint on it! Still, I can't help but think Hoosier tires contributed to those super fast pole speeds, there was a tire war going on in NASCAR around this time. I was always Team Goodyear but I guess Loy's team was Hoosier.
Been waiting for a video on Loy Allen Jr. for some time and it's well worth the wait.^^
Sometimes, qualifying pace doesn't always translate to race pace...
yeah those small teams would do things like disconnect the alternator belt...then reconnect it on the parade laps...stuff like that was common...race pace was more important to the teams that actually had a chance at winning...
Another case of "It's not where you start, it's where you finish"
His pole at the 500 is an example of How Anyone can get the pole and win at Daytona and dega especially the little Underdogs
Well no, not really. He had a handful of poles that year.
Well he drove he hooiser tires that season. Those tires were fast over one lap but the tires didn't long run race the tires fell off.
to be fair he had some bad luck too...had kulwicki not dies he peobably runs busch for a few years and gets more laps which would have helped him make the transition...plus the fact most of his poles were go or go home meant the emphasis was entirely on making the field....so rave pace was an afterthought.....joe nemechek used to qualify very well too when he was deiving his own car...and usually ran in back because it was all about making the race
One driver that reminds me of him was F1 driver Antonio Pizzonia. He known to do a hot lap in practice or qualifying, but lacked serious race day pace. Mark Weber owned the guy so bad that Jaguar replaced him halfway through the season.
Ah, Loy Allen, Jr. A sad story that began sadly and ended not too much better.
Loy actually was on a short-term deal with Hooters when he won the 1992 ARCA season finale at Atlanta when Hooters big wigs were present (no doubt in town for the 1992 Hooters 500 championship weekend with Alan Kulwicki in contention). That win landed Loy more races with Hooters sponsorship in the ARCA series in 1993.
Loy's Cup escapades in 1993 were actually with the family-run team, not Tri-Star. He made one start with Tri-Star at the end of 1993 at Phoenix, with the #68 Country Time livery and everything, but the season finale at Atlanta was back with his own family team, the #37, where he's shown here crashing out. He was actually involved in the famous Stanley Smith-Jimmy Horton wreck at Talladega in 1993 in which Smith suffered a basilar skull fracture and Horton flew over the wall. You can see Allen, Jr. spinning at the bottom of the track.
Bob Brooks wanted Loy Allen, Jr. in the car simply because Loy was already under contract with Hooters and Brooks didn't want to deal with another business transaction type deal in the wake of the tragic deaths of his son and friends/coworkers.
Keep in mind, at the time, there was no Craftsman Truck Series (that would begin in 1995) and there wasn't a whole lot of difference between the back of the Cup pack and the middle of the Busch Series pack at the time. A lot of teams opted to try to make and run Cup races for the bigger purse and get a foothold that way instead of toiling in the Busch Series for smaller purses. This was Tri-Star's strategy first with Derrike Cope, then Bobby Hamilton and Country Time, then with Loy Allen, Jr. and Hooters. Unfortunately, Tri-Star didn't have the most money in the world, and also keep in mind most of the tracks Loy saw on the Cup tour in 1994 were his first time seeing them. He had already raced at Daytona, Atlanta, and Michigan in the ARCA series, sites of his three Cup poles, before. The tougher tracks he debuted at, like Darlington and the short tracks, resulted in DNQ for Loy due to those factors plus reduced field sizes at short tracks that were still in effect at that time.
Loy was (and probably still is) a very personable and thus a good interview. I've talked to a couple guys who used to crew in the sport and they said Loy would answer your question and then some. That no doubt helped him land Hooters and later Health Source as sponsors.
All in all, it was really not good timing for Loy to be in the Cup series. A couple of years later, who knows, he could have gotten some seasoning in the Trucks, then Busch, then been in Cup solidly with a decent ride by, say, 1998. It might have turned out differently, but we'll never know.
Derrike Cope never drove for TriStar. Hamilton was their first full time effort. At the time Mark Smith was a pretty well known engine builder in the garage and TriStar supplied engines to many teams. That included Loy’s Cup efforts in 1993.
@@mwdiphone you're right Cope never drove for Tri-Star. He did have a connection to their 1991 Bobby Hamiton team in that Tri-Star bought the equipment of Cope's defunct team owned by Jim Tesla. Also, Mark Smith and Dave Fuge, who were the primary figures at Tri Star, had worked with Cope At Tesla's team.
Loy's a good guy. I went to school with his sister., drive by their old home place every day on the way to town. Sure wish he could've made it in the series.
@@psychlops924 I haven't seen him in a good while, but I could probably get a message to him if need be. I've got some friends that race that can probably locate him faster than I can.
What is Loy doing now?
@@mikenonya6382 I really don't know. My cousin knows him alot better than me, but I've told him to help me try and loctate him, you know to get him the message. If I hear anything I'll add to this comment for sure.
@@mikenonya6382 pilots his families business King Air.
@@leegodbold5677 I live in Balto. Md and had neighbors named Godbold from N.C. back in the early 60s
"By the age of 26 he was driving in the arca series. This video really highlights the change in preferred driver age.
Black Flag my dad worked on Loy Allen's ARCA car and can be seen in the victory lane interview. When I was 14 years old I helped them put the decals on the CUP car that Loy ran in the 1993 the Naturally Fresh 37 car. The team which was only about 5 guys tried to talk Loy's dad into running for the full ARCA season to get him more seat time since all they ran at the time was the big tracks. But they decide to wanted to just jump to Cup at least would have been better off at least running Busch. He never ran any Busch races before just jumping to Cup. The cars they had were came from Robert Yates and were some of the old Davey Allen cars.
Just because you do really good during qualifying, doesn't mean you're going to do good during the race
I keep learning that in iRacing.
qualify for show, race for dough.
Right. Not sure if it's the same in NASCAR but in normal racing if you focus too much on having a fast qualifying car, it compromises your race because you won't have a very good race car. Once you add in fuel and stuff to the equation it affects your balance which will affect race pace and drivability. The fact that he qualified 2mph faster and was losing the rear in the races suggests to me that this is what happened and why he couldn't carry it on to the race. The car was setup to be a good qualifying car but not a good race car.
4:35 That sweet sweet nostalgia of NASCAR 98 music ❤
Edit: andddd 8:57 Eli "Voice Of" Gold
The 90's was definitely the mustache era in NASCAR. It seems like every driver from a bust to a champion had one back then.
Even Jeff Gordon in 1993 had one 😂
The #37 car he drove for 5 races in 1993 was owned by Loy's father not Tri-Star Motorsports. Naturally Fresh (the sponsor of the #37) is owned by Hooters. It's their brand of salad dressing.
The nascar 98 music in the background completes this
I swear you make videos about so many under rated drivers and I love it
6:01 - how you managed to find his name in the only Winston Cup race he ever started and publish it within hours of his death is beyond me. R.I.P. Bob.
Dude was like the real life version of Kenny Wallace in NASCAR Thunder 2004. Kenny would always qualify on the front row in that game and be out of the top 10 in the first couple of laps lol
Like almost all nascar busts, Loy Allen Jr was rushed up WAY too early. You don’t go from ARCA straight to Cup. That’s not how driver development works. He had the speed, he had the skills, but he never quite had the experience because he came quickly and left quickly, and that’s why he was a bust.
I will say, I liked his qualifying efforts, and his Hooter schemes were nice. Chase’s brown and orange one is better though, and Alan’s were the best.
Listening to you playing the music from NASCAR 98 is bringing me back
Right off the bat, Props for using the Nascar 98' Menu music. Brought back good memories.
He's almost like the Maverick Vinales (from MotoGP) of Nascar. Fast on every testing and practice + qualifying session but always having lack of pace on the race. Although Vinales has scored himself a few wins and podiums tho
Even though he was a bust. The one thing I'll never forget is his hooters car with the blue stripe and the blue number. That car was one of my favorites
I’m from the town nearest to his hometown that had a track. We had a small display honoring him in our Applebee’s circa 1994-95.
Can you tackle up Stacy Compton next? The only other Cup Series driver I can think of who has multiple poles, but only one Top 10
The reason he got that top ten was because of 7 time winning crew chief Chad Knaus (Chad called DW in DW’s final year and well the start of him driving that car was just meme worthy according to Chad he immediately gets in the car and drives into a trash can lol)
How about chad chaffin..... he was awful unless it was a truck. He did win in the truck series but tanks in Busch and cup
@@Denverbroncos87 Didn't he drive for Bobby Hamilton?
@@masoneveridge4078 He back then drove for the same team Bill Elliott won his only championship for
If memory serves, Compton got that Top 10 in the 2001 Daytona 500 when 2/3 of the field crashed out. He had qualified in the Top 3 for that race, so as long as he didn’t get caught up in a wreck, which he didn’t, he was probably good for a Top 10. That was Melling Racing’s (famously fast on the RP tracks) last hurrah.
Loy Allen Was Good Arca Driver From The Early 90s ☺ Thanks For Uploading
To Mr Brooks credit he stayed in racing by stating the Hooters series later became the Hooters Cup series where a number of drivers moved up to NASCAR and did very well.
Love the music from NASCAR 98 on PlayStation
He's career looks like a bad nascar game career mode a lot of poles but no speed for the races 😂
You could be the best ARCA prospect there is, and when/if you make it to the Cup Series, and you don't maintain consistent runs, on a regular basis,, all of the success you had in the lower series, gets extinguished with the snap of a finger, and that's the way it is..
Just asking as I'm not sure, is/was there any mechanical similarities between Cup cars and ARCA cars at the time?
I remember tweeting you this suggestion :)
Speaking of random Diecasts, I have a Diecast 1:64 of Loy Allen’s 19 Hooters Car from 94 in one of my Drawers filled with other NASCAR Diecasts, along with Gary Bradberry’s 78 Pilot car from 98.
I was at that Atlanta fall race and was sitting right at the flag stand and you could hear and feel when he hit the wall very hard hit.
Anyone else notice the nascar 98 music 5 min in
On so many of these busts, I wonder how much of it was a lack of talent and how much was it the team. So many of these races (and wrecks) seem like a car on the razors edge of ultra speed on its own but too far over the edge for running in dirty air
I think in the case of Loy Allen it was he was rushed into Cup and wasn't ready for it. Maybe with more experience i the lower series he would have done better.
Hooters went with Brett bodine because?
He made races, kept car clean more than wrecking it, he knew how to bring the car home, he never out drove the car so it would not break anything that didn’t need to break.
My opinion.
Loving the soundtrack from Nascar 98.
I love the NASCAR Busts Series
Who agrees that Darian should make these videos every once a week?
Hell yeah the Nascar 98 theme
Brett Bodine and Greg Biffle probably had better success with Hooters than Loy Allen.
“Holds up shield”
Loy Allen Jr.’s career in ARCA: Not all that bad. Loy Allen Jr.’s career in NASCAR: Bad as a well aged cup of rotten milk.
7:33 Intro for NASCAR Racing 2 by Papyrus
My friend Ashton has a Loy Allen 19 1/24 car. We actually played with it. He also has a diecast 1/64 of him
i have both of them as well.
Loy was 1 of 4 drivers (along with Harry Gant, Jimmy Spencer, and fellow rookie Ward Burton) who both won a Busch Pole Award AND failed to qualify during the 1994 season. No doubt the tire war contributed to that, but it also indicated how competitive Winston Cup had become. Remember, Dale Jarrett won the Mello Yello 500 at Charlotte the week after missing the field at North Wilkesboro.
Eventually, 1994 would be eclipsed by the 1997 and 2001 seasons, in which 7 different drivers would both win a pole and DNQ (sometimes more than one of each) in the same season.
NASCAR Busts: David Stremme
Interestingly, I have both of his #19 diecasts but not the #27 that you have...it's actually quite rare.
I remember him from the very first nascar game I ever played.
One of the most random Daytona 500 pole winners.
I was there at Rockingham the day he had that nasty accident. He was out for a while after that. I remember Loy wanted to do the Busch Series after Hooters went away to hone his skills, but couldn't find a ride. Probably needed more time and a better team.
I refer to the death of Alan Kulwicki as “The Day The Motors Died”. R.I.P Underbird.
The one thing I remember about Loy Allen is the time he crashed under caution during the 1994 Daytona ARCA race. I once had a tape of this, but can’t find it.
I remember rewatching the 1994 daytona 500 Speedweeks on UA-cam he was fast
7:38 ahead of gordon labonte earnhardt and martin. what a strange driver
RIP Bob Keselowski. Mentioned around the 6 minute mark.
The best part of this video is learning theres a Loy Allen Snr
I raced with loy Allen at wake county speedway left track one night his dad house on fire I was volunteer fireman In garner in 90,s
He was also unconscious in that 1996 race at Rockingham, which is why the car ended up heading so hard into the inside armco.
Sounds like my dads friend, when he alone he’s fast but when he races and somebody passes him he just follows them and just sets there
The background music can be found in Nascar '98 on PlayStation haha
He was only knew about his Daytona 500 pole...
More weird was him earned 3 poles and in the same time a bunch of DNQs
He was a cup bust, smoked the field for the pole for daytona 500, won multiple cup poles and dominate car several arca races (won at atlanta) though ALOT MORE than most can say!!!! Also added to the beautiful hooter's paint scheme legacy!!!! ALOT OF TODAYS BIGGEST YOUNG PROSPECTS WILL NEVER ACCOMPLISH or achieve WHAT HE DID!!!!!
I run 90s nascar mods in nr2003. Besides the cup90 1994 carset i didn't even know he was in the others lol. Great video though.
I cant wait until "NASCAR Busts: Jake Paul" comes out in like 10 years
I Have His 19 Car from 1994 As A Diecast Along With His 37 from 1993 (you probably never knew that one existed as a diecast)
Thats my cousin lol. I mean at least he made it to Nascar 🤷🏻 technically from Wake Forest though
Not sure why but I remember that crash with Wally Dallenbach lol
I despise this guy for abandoning the 7. Kulwicki gave them a championship and they couldn't even finish the season to keep the team going. If course it was because of his hard-on for loy Allen jr
Met loy not long ago and saw his private jet, great guy
Hooters..."Loy Allen is the future of Hooters in Nascar!"
Also Hooters...."Let's sign up with Tristar Motorsports."
Makes Sense
Lest not forget Loy was injured badly at Rockingham in 1996 as well
Bro the nostalgia from the song sings nascar 98
It is NASCAR 98!
@@acmodelmaster1944 yessssir
Was just thinking about if you did this
Loy's paint scheme from 1993 stuck around in 1994 with Rodney Orr.
Until Orr died.
I’ve only heard of him because of his Daytona 500 pole and nothing else.
Love how we are conveniently forgetting the fact that TriStar Motorsports was complete garbage
Make sure your clips are all around the same audio levels
And what about Buckshot Jones? Could You do a video about him?
Noted Qualifying Merchant Loy Allen Jr.
How many Hooters Busts have we seen after Kulwicki? Hooters may have jumped the shark in 1993.
NASCAR Busts: Johnny Sauter (Cup Series)
Chad chaffin
Andy Lally
Ed berrier
Jeff Fuller
Patrick carpentier
Mike garvey
Chad Blount
Terry cook
Jack sprague
Andy Houston
Rich bickle
Josh wise
Brian Scott
Buckshot Jones
David Green
Jeff Green
Hermie Sadler
Mike bliss
Ron barfield
Phil bonifield
Rick Wilson
Wally dallenbach- great announcer, cup career? Geez....... especially being in a rick Hendrick owned car and crap to show for it
@@Denverbroncos87 he’s done brian Scott
This is kind of gruesome, but I remember years ago getting into a conversation with some other NASCAR fans and the topic was the unpleasant one of who was the active driver who was most likely to get killed in a race, and I said Loy Allen. Because could be fast, but he wasn't as good as he was fast. I turned out to be almost right because his career was pretty much ended by that crash in Rockingham, which, from the descriptions I've read, sounded like almost a basilar skull fracture. He raced a few times after that, but his career was pretty much over.
Would you happen to be the one that commented about a similar topic on Brock Beards video about the ‘94 Speedweeks?
@@ncpunk46 Possibly, but I don't remember. It's probably not a thought too many people had.
If we counted getting the pole as winning he would be a champion
I saw this one coming
That Atlanta hit was brutal
All i remember of him is he kept getting injured in hard wrecks.
I had both the 19 and 27 die cast and that’s all about him I remember
LA was only fast when the Hoosiers were Superior to the Goodyear’s
I met this guy at work lol
He said nobody wanted his autograph :(
anybody else concentrating on whos in the booth during the highlight reels?
So he choaked up whenever there was other drivers on the track but could lay down speed if it was just him on the track
David green and his disastrous cup series career
Looked a little bit like a young Mark Martin
I feel bad for him. Loy got caught up in all the trouble in the wake of Allan's death.