Bear Creek Arsenal 22Lr upper

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  • @pewsandbrews
    @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +34

    Another quick tip on the light strikes!!!!! After a little closer inspection, it seemed the firing pin wasn't coming out very far. I believe there was some machining debris or a burr on the inside of the firing pin channel. Remove the firing pin and run a 5/32 drill bit down in and just turn it by hand a few times. ( not in a drill! ) After testing on a couple fired cases, it's defiantly putting a larger dent on the rim.

    • @DieuEtMonDroit230
      @DieuEtMonDroit230 2 роки тому +3

      You won't see a penny of it, LOL, but BCA owes you hundreds of dollars for armory services, consultation, and DIY instructions.

  • @OneofMyTurns
    @OneofMyTurns Місяць тому +1

    BCA now has a 22LR bolt that they call a Gen 2 so I’m guessing they made some improvements on it.

  • @basementkid5372
    @basementkid5372 2 роки тому +13

    Mine was working great out of the box... zero problems and great accuracy with aguila and auto-match. Out of the first 300 rounds I had 2 duds that jammed while chambering which is kind of what you get with bulk ammo. Not one single light strike, no problems to eject or anything like this at all.

  • @JettBlast
    @JettBlast Рік тому +1

    I just built a PSA Lower and BCA 300-Blackout here. I am currently getting it setup for hunting the way I like it. your channel as several others points out the value for the investment in these great firearms thank you for the content you make. I have put together many PSA built lower receivers with BCA uppers, and they have been awesome! BCA is making great stuff and rifles that people are looking for in so many calibers, like he said the items are a great price! And they have great customer service they get it fixed and back in a week or less! I have people refer to Anderson AR-15s as "Poverty Ponys" and turn their noses up at PSA or Bear Creek so they can brag about what expensive things they have. Then later they can't outshoot the competition shooters at the range that are using standard ammo and standard firearms who are just having fun and socializing with other shooters I really enjoy seeing the Barney Fifes who have all the high-speed holster and gear and a stack of gun publications who talk a big game but when the old pros leave them in the dust! Milspec is, more than most people will ever need most people can't outperform their firearm.

  • @granddad-mv5ef
    @granddad-mv5ef 2 роки тому +4

    So glad your channel came up on my feed. I have had EXACTLY the same problems (with the same upper). Except when I had a round fire when not completely in the chamber, some of the case came out the bottom and the bullet went only four inches into the barrel. Fortunately, I decided to push a cleaning rod down the barrel and pushed the bullet out. So far, after a warranty return (8 rounds) and a second range trip (10 rounds) and it locked open again, I found the ejector to be the cause for the bolt not closing. BCA is very willing to take it back again for warranty service, but since I have read the email they sent you, not sure that is the best solution. BTW, the next magazine is loaded with Stingers.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому

      Some have had good luck, I've had mediocre luck, and some could never get them to run right. Seems like a crap shoot .

  • @paulm1062
    @paulm1062 2 роки тому +3

    Your video and follow up video. Have been helpful. I am on the 3rd 22LR upper from them. The first had exterior damage that was stovepiping every third shot after my friend that I had a round go off that was not in the chamber it went right back to them the second one extractor would not work at all you drop the bolt and pull it back and around would still be sitting in the chamber the only thing that would kick it out it's just from the force of the round going off . Polishing the feed ramp I could see it was cracked halfway through.
    There wasn't anything I can do with that. So back it went.
    On all the uppers I have been attaching them to it Bear Creek Arsenal lower I've noticed that all the uppers have a lot of shake between the upper and lower I had to put a accuwedge in the back side and an o-ring on the front to help tighten it up you can still feel a little wobble I was a machinist and I like everything precision.
    The third one seems like the ejector system is working! It was kicking snap caps out without a problem. I cycled the upper 500 times by hand without much oil just to see if there were any spots that was hitting or scratching on. I cleaned those spots up with some Emery cloth to smooth them out.
    Then I put flitz polish on it everything on the bolt system and inside upper.
    Then run it another five hundred times to smooth everything out.
    I use a.diamond file to round off any of the edges. On the feed ramp.
    I polished the feed ramp with flitz to a nice mirror finish.
    Then use a bead hone on the chamber.
    I use Lucas Gun oil on all the bolt parts reattached my scope and accessories. Ready for the range.
    I sure hope this time it works.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm going to disassemble mine and polish the crap out of everything. It's close to working right, so a little more attention should get it running the way it should.

    • @paulm1062
      @paulm1062 2 роки тому +1

      @@pewsandbrews I was able to test last night. 300 rounds 3 stovepipe rounds but during break in period. I added a PSA Match grade trigger. Digital gauge showed 2.5 -2.8 lbs pull. With full power hammer spring.
      Range officer let me send them as fast as possible. Slow or fast it was very smooth. When I saw a stovepipe. I wet down the bolt and rod with Rem oil. Ran great very happy with it now.
      Range officer shot it also.
      He was very impressed with it.
      You don't need to Ream to 5.56 or change the bolt.
      How is yours doing now?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      @@paulm1062 It's doing ok....I still get a couple stovepipes here and there, but it's functioning much better. I did go out and do a comparison with a full strength hammer spring that I may post real quick. It's only 2 mags with each lower so not a big test. I did it mainly to test the reaming I did on the firing pin channel to try and fix the light strikes.

    • @paulm1062
      @paulm1062 2 роки тому

      @@pewsandbrews
      I ran another test.
      That ran smoothly.
      Only problems were a few bad pieces of ammo.
      I bought a few more magazines. When BCA had them on sale.
      Better price than anyone else.
      Total of 13 now. Fast double taps.
      Emptying them quickly. Ejector is holding the spent cases.
      Till they are kicked out. Like they should. I am using the McFadden speed Loader to fill the CMMG magazines. Just changing the adapter. I can load magazines for my Walther hammerli tac r1 22lr.
      Change adapter and load the Marlin 7000 magazines.
      Boyd's blue thumbhole on the action. ( My daughters favorite)
      Love there stocks.
      Changing adapte again to load for Smith and Wesson Model 41
      But yet another for Ruger 10/22 custom. Great Loader makes it fun to reload.
      Any new changes with yours?

  • @salazarroy21
    @salazarroy21 2 роки тому +2

    Enjoy your Channel I am a Bear Creek Arsenal upper fan pretty solid for the price one thing though I learned that you got to go in before you shoot your gun for the first time and polish the ramp and polish the slide areas and a light oil the tend to come fairly dry which can lead to fire an issues I noticed after I did that I had no problems whatsoever and cci anmo works great with this 22 Upper

  • @johnfowler6189
    @johnfowler6189 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks, great video. I'm having all of the same problems you're having with regards FTF, FTE and DOOB. Like you said, don't think the problems will ever be totally resolved and primarily the root cause is really bad bolt/ receiver design. All you have to do is take a look at the design of the CMMG bcg( which is very very reliable) and you'll see the difference immediately.
    It's a real shame because the BCA barrel is very accurate. I guess at this price point that's the best BCA can do.

  • @vanthof9852
    @vanthof9852 2 роки тому +3

    The bolt face on mine was not milled properly. The area milled out for the case head had about a 1/64 to 1/32" 'lip' on the face where the mill bit hadn't gone all the way to the top and sides of the indent for the case head.
    This resulted in rounds not being seated properly in the bolt and not extracting because the extractor couldn't snap over the case rim. When I manually cycled the action,, about 70% of the rounds would not extract. The ones that did extract barely made it out of the receiver.
    On the range, I also had about 25% light strikes, but I had put in a weaker hammer spring. I've switched that out.
    I took a chance and with a diamond coated fine point Dremel bit I carefully ground away the lip.
    Then I cold blued the steel tominimize corrosion.
    Now rounds come flying out like they are supposed to.
    I still need to test my mods to the bolt face and hammer spring on the range, but I have high hopes this fixed the extraction issue.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      Great info! Thanks for sharing. Seems like a poor bolt design, along with bad quality control. I'm almost thinking about seeing if I can retro fit a CMMG bolt into this upper, or have the barrel chamber reamed to 5.56 so the Cmmg bolt would work. At least I'd be able to take advantage of the 1 in 16 twist barrel.

    • @vanthof9852
      @vanthof9852 2 роки тому +1

      Interesting idea on reaming to .556, just as long as it stays dedicated to the CMMG carrier :-)
      I think this upper will be a lot of fun. Especially for my wife. Now I just need to find more .22LR ammo

  • @bugkillintxn
    @bugkillintxn Рік тому +2

    I just ordered that upper and a few magazines for it. I've already thought about putting an Allen wrench in the pistol grip storage hogue grip

  • @jamescdean9010
    @jamescdean9010 17 днів тому +1

    I have the BCA .22wmr. Great upper!

  • @theelwhastrummer7166
    @theelwhastrummer7166 2 роки тому +2

    I have a cmmg adaptor, and it works flawlessly. I cleaned it thoroughly before I used it, and I run it wet.
    I'm gonna order up a BCA .22 LR upper next week. I have 2 BCA uppers already, and although they overcharged me for them, they have worked fine. I cleaned them thoroughly before I used them, and I run them wet.

    • @redneckswitwheels
      @redneckswitwheels 2 роки тому +1

      hey how did u make out? i am considering buying this upper

  • @isaiahkramer3610
    @isaiahkramer3610 2 роки тому +3

    I had an issue with the CMMG 22 kit. It took about 50 to 75 round to break it in. Wasn't happy in the beginning with all the jams. But now it's working great and couldn't be happier.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      My CMMG ran great right away, I've put a couple hundred through this and have had issues on every mag I've run. We'll see how it goes when I do their break in. I might have gotten a really tight one.

  • @billspen
    @billspen 2 роки тому +3

    Have the same problem with my 7" 22lr receiver from BCA. Just got this a couple of days ago. I'm a left hand shooter and experienced the ignition of a round by an second round just like you did. Unfortunately I got a face full of dust and some pitting on my face (thank God I had safety glasses on). First range session was ugly. Second was better with CCI Mini-Mag ammo. I think it could be the magazines causing the fed problems thus causing the ejection problems. Saw a youtube video of some guy that pushed forward on bottom of mag to get no issues. Anyhow, thanks for the review and good luck.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      It's a little un nerving when stuff like that happens. Fortunately you had your glasses on! After looking at the video closer, I think the hammer might have set off a loaded stovepiped round as well as a cambered round.

    • @backwoodsmaineiac8897
      @backwoodsmaineiac8897 2 роки тому +3

      Had that happen with my colt mag fed ar9....scared me shitless as a lefty as the primer of one popped out and hit my lip. I keep the mangled shells in my ammo can as a reminder to be safe.

  • @larryratliff2215
    @larryratliff2215 10 місяців тому

    Great info and through breakdown of the Bear Creek 22LR, I plan on purchasing one and will follow your plan ( lighter Trigger Spring, polish ramp, rod and extractor). But great break down.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  10 місяців тому

      Someone else mentioned to leave the bolt catch off the lower to give the hammer a little more travel and prevent light strikes. Haven't tried it, but he claims it worked for him.

  • @TheLoneRanger745
    @TheLoneRanger745 2 роки тому +2

    I think you're right about the trigger hammer weight and blow back cycling problem. Polish job.. sounds good. I've done alot of research on changing my AR-15 into the .22 and there are alot of problems ,. I chose to just buy a hole new rifle by Tippmann Arms 16" elite , it's a REAL(exact) AR -22lr w/16;1 barrel , light hammer weight trigger, BCG, the hole thing is engineered to work right , and I didn't want to f up my 5.56 , I'm sure you'll get this thing working right , there's also a company called REDI MAG that makes an adapter for S&W mags (easier to load) and it's supposed to have a bolt hold open design with a better seal so less blow back debris gets into the bolt slide bore area and trigger mechanism.

  • @millerm155
    @millerm155 2 роки тому +3

    Looking forward to your follow up on the BCA 22LR upper. I ordered one a few days ago and it is on the FEDEX truck of delivery on Monday.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      I'm going to try and get out next week, so it shouldn't be too long till I update .

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      Posted the follow up

    • @millerm155
      @millerm155 2 роки тому +2

      @@pewsandbrews Thanks for braving the cold weather to get the follow up done. I am feeling a lot better after viewing it and picked up some gun lube yesterday based on your results. FedEx is supposed to deliver tomorrow. I will let you know how my 22LR upper performs.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      @@millerm155 Please do!...I'd like to know what results others are having.

    • @millerm155
      @millerm155 2 роки тому +2

      @@pewsandbrews FedEx arrived and I was soon on the range after lubing as you were told by BCA. Got 100 rounds thru it before the rain started. Lots of problems. First the rounds would not feed and I had to push the bolt forward. That cleared up in about 30 rounds and I was shooting some 20 year old ammo. The last 50 were shot with ammo I purchased yesterday, Remington Thunderbolt. I kept having ejection problems. Shoot 5 rds and a stovepipe. Shoot 15 rds and a stove pipe. Seemed to be getting better toward the end and the rain came and that ended todays shooting. Cleaned and lubricated the upper and it was not very dirty. I will be back at it tomorrow and will let you know.

  • @Theshark203
    @Theshark203 Рік тому +2

    I just got the cmmg but went ahead and made it a dedicated 22lr with their 22lr collar and barrel. Have to say very well worth it!! Just got a big raccoon with it that was attacking my barn cats over their food. Very accurate and reliable!! Definitely could overlap impacts with a proper magnified scope and bench rest!!!

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому +1

      I ended up doing the same thing and getting a cmmg collar and barrel. Works great, I use it for steel challenge competition.

    • @thomasd2695
      @thomasd2695 Рік тому

      Barn cats are essential, glad you got it.

  • @patrickorear4987
    @patrickorear4987 Рік тому +1

    Great video! I hope you keep making videos and grow your channel.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому

      Thanks! Been doing a lot of competitions lately so I haven't posted in a while, but more content is coming. Working on getting a good camera set up to film while shooting the matches.

  • @HoppersLab
    @HoppersLab 2 роки тому +1

    I just shot mine for the first time today, had the same problems, i would have a stove pipe and a good round chambered, thinking that the empty shell is staying in and it is pushing the next round in the chamber then turning and jamming. The last mag i ran, i held the mag to the rear and it ran with no problems, next time i get a chance to get to the range i will try pushing the mag in different directions.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking of trying a couple different lowers for that reason. Maybe there's enough variation in how the mag sits in different lowers that it might function better with one lower over another.

    • @HoppersLab
      @HoppersLab 2 роки тому

      @@pewsandbrews Mine still does this, even tried a couple of Black dog 32 rd magazines with metal feed lips, also getting light primer strikes, I will be sending it back in to get looked at. Hope they can fix it.

    • @HoppersLab
      @HoppersLab 2 роки тому +1

      @@pewsandbrews I sent my upper back in for warranty, they told me the chamber was out of spec, so they replaced the whole upper. i have the new one and waiting to go try it...

  • @Chingus696
    @Chingus696 Місяць тому

    I feel heavy oiling on the rod turns the 22 sludge into sludge lube and that made the action more reliable. If it starts to get dry I start to have problems. A squirt of oil and I’m back in business!

  • @loupuleff571
    @loupuleff571 2 роки тому +1

    i just ordered one of these so glad i saw this review i would ask you if you tried different types of ammo obviously with 22 ammo some run good and some not but i will try the bca break in process. i also just bough the 22 mag upper and a 350 legend upper the 22mag ran perfect but the 350 had some feed issues but i think i found the problem it had some burrs on top of the feed ramps that the bolt was hanging up on as well as the ammo so i cleaned that up and will try it again asap i will say that with all you hear about the bca upper issues you would think they would just have taken five minutes to clean up those burrs not to mention the cost of shipping back and forth to repair if i wasn't able to do it myself. thanks for the review !!

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому

      Tried Thunderbolt, norma, aqulia, herters, cci ar22. same problems with all. some were slightly better, but hard to say it was the ammo when my CMMG conversion ran perfect with the same stuff.

  • @gregwright392
    @gregwright392 Рік тому

    Having continued FTE and FTF from light primer strikes. Trying to get it resolved, but may be screwed as I no longer have my proof of purchase for warranty! Continuing to try and resolve the issue. We'll see. Accuracy was good when it woks.

  • @TheMcDannells
    @TheMcDannells 7 місяців тому

    Great video, any update on the upper after putting more rounds down range? Did the feed and firing issues get better? I’m looking for an inexpensive 22LR upper and this certainly fits the bill but not if reliability is bad. Thanks!

  • @williambilse
    @williambilse 2 роки тому

    I have one of these and my biggest issue is a failure to reset the hammer. 1200+ fps ammo seems to fix that, but standard velocity is a no-go. My primer strike marks seem very light. I have never had a failure to fire caused by the light strikes. I will check the firing pin and see if it is poking out like it should. I'm surprised BCA does not publish their break in procedure for these and include a copy in the box. It was news to me. Great vid, thanks for posting it.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому

      Thank you. Yeah, you would think if this many people are having issues, they would at least post the break in, or put it on a small card the in the box.

    • @jimmyhaley727
      @jimmyhaley727 Рік тому

      .22s need super clean/ramp polishing and lots of oil,, and CCis

  • @robertribitharrison666
    @robertribitharrison666 2 роки тому +3

    love the BCA 22lr side charge uppers. own a few. For the money they can not be beat. i have ran close to 300 rounds with not many issues. great video to see. sorry to see your not having the best luck with 1. try a different upgraded firing pin.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +5

      Thank you. Unfortunately I've had nothing but issues. I might look into an upgraded firing pin if one is offered by someone, but I just feel it's not something you should have to do in order for a new gun to function reliably. Upgrading triggers for better pull, barrels for accuracy, or better optics I can understand, but reliability should always be there right off the bat.

    • @colbollinger1110
      @colbollinger1110 2 роки тому +4

      @@pewsandbrews
      BCA has lifetime guarantee on their products; you should contact them. They've always taken care of me.
      Best Regards and God Bless, Col

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +4

      @@colbollinger1110 ​ @Col Bollinger I did contact them and they sent me the break in procedure I showed in the video. I want to run it in a bit more before I think about sending it back. I have purchased a half dozen uppers from them and this is the first one I've had an issue with, but the others were all center fire.

    • @colbollinger1110
      @colbollinger1110 2 роки тому +3

      @@pewsandbrews
      Got ya; yeah, I made the comment, before I got to that part of the video.
      I have lots of their uppers as well, including two of these ar22s.
      The only problem I've had is the out of battery kabooms... which have all been with Aguila brand ammo. They are very waxy and will regularly keep the bolt from fully seating, causing the rim to blow; they also cause bobbled empties with much reduced, but still too much regularity--which causes the kaboom, like you experienced. I have had three (one in my 16" and two in my 10.5"). The lack of a disconnect to mitigate these occurrences, sucks to say the least.
      I love the uppers too much not to shoot them. However, we do not shoot Aguila through them; and they are no longer used for inexperienced/first-time shooters and especially not the kids anymore.
      You might try CCI Mini Mags, Winchester Super X Power Points/Hyper Velocity Hollow Point, and Federal Auto Match.
      They have worked flawlessly through both of my uppers. Hopefully, yours breaks-in and straightens out; they really are too nice and accurate to give up on!
      Best Regards and God Bless, Col

    • @dannyamos4809
      @dannyamos4809 2 роки тому +2

      @@colbollinger1110 I have had two out of battery kabooms on my 16" upper with Aguila cphp in under 150 rounds, it blew the extractor out both times and by some miracle each time I managed to find the pieces and reinstall them. So thanks for the info on Aguila being problematic in these uppers, I typically shoot it with zero issue in my cmmg kit upper.

  • @Steelrunner
    @Steelrunner Рік тому

    Have you tried running it with a buffer in the buffer tube? The way its designed looks to me as though the tiny bit of resistance the buffer and spring would apply forward to the bolt would tighten up any shimmering the end othe bolt may be doing during its cycling... if you look at the S&W M&P15-22 their bolt design is similar (minus the charging design) but their lower is all one polymer peice and where the buffer tube would normally be is all one solid piece, But since it has a solid backstop it would stop any possible overtravel.... This is just something I was wondering if maybe it actually does need the buffer in the tube. It's simple, and I would definitely at least try it. Hope this helps. If not, I hope you find the issue.

  • @mkoic11
    @mkoic11 Рік тому

    I’m in the same boat so far. I’ve tried a dozen different loads (from CCI, Eley, Fiocchi, Winchester, and Aguila) and all of them have FTF fairly often. On 100% of those FTF, when I open the bolt the extractor also is not engaged. I’ll try all of the suggestions from your video and their break in process and see how that goes. My upper came with no instructions and it would have been nice if BCA had included their break in procedure in the box. Or better yet, why don’t they perform that procedure before they ship it?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому

      Seems pretty hit and miss.....some comments say they never had a problem, but a lot more say they have.

    • @mkoic11
      @mkoic11 Рік тому

      @@pewsandbrews did you ever get yours to function perfectly?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому

      Nope

    • @mkoic11
      @mkoic11 Рік тому

      @@pewsandbrews I found a burr at the transition between the main shaft of the firing pin and the actual pin. I took that burr off last night and shot some today, and it was much better with only 6 FTF in 140 rounds. Two of those 6 didn’t fire after I ran them through two more times (total if 3 attempts each), rotated each time so the firing pin could hit a fresh spot, so those seem like duds. The other 4 eventually fired. After shooting this evening, I bought 200 rounds of 1700 fps Aguila ammo. I’m going to clean and lube heavily tonight and hopefully run those through it tomorrow. Maybe the hotter loads will help it wear in better.

  • @innercityprepper
    @innercityprepper 2 роки тому +1

    Like you, I've got (a couple) CMMG conversions and one of these as well. I haven't had the chance to take mine to the range yet but I'll definitely be trying the break-in procedure that you were recommended by BCA. I'll also be mixing up my magazines in case it's a magazine issue.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +2

      When you get out with it, give us an update on how it goes.

    • @innercityprepper
      @innercityprepper 2 роки тому +3

      @@pewsandbrews I did get a chance just once, only got about 150 rounds through it and had maybe... 5 or 6 failures, roughly one failure per magazine. I should note that it was quite cold (15F) and I was shooting suppressed, so there were a lot of factors. I'll have a chance to put far more through it later this spring. Overall though it seems to me like it'll be a decent runner.

    • @DieuEtMonDroit230
      @DieuEtMonDroit230 2 роки тому

      @@innercityprepper Now that its been a while has it performed well?

    • @innercityprepper
      @innercityprepper 2 роки тому +2

      @@DieuEtMonDroit230 Actually I did, just recently. I was using alternating magazines, subsonic and standard velocity I actually had zero failures of any type, even with the subsonics (CCI "Subsonic" not the "Quiet" branded ones). This was with no additional cleaning or lube since the last range trip. I ended up putting about another 150 through it, and it performed very well this time! I was once again shooting suppressed.
      Thanks for tagging me, I'm glad to share my experience.

  • @thomasd2695
    @thomasd2695 Рік тому +1

    That CMMG mag isn't the best piece of equipment either (for a dedicated 22lr upper). On mine, the follower started getting stuck 3rd time at the range after loading 12 rounds. I bought the s&w mp 15-22 25-round mags with arcatch22 stick on shims, and it made a ton of difference on how the BCA upper cycled and fed rounds. They seem to be better quality magazines. Thanks for the video, too! Stay safe.

    • @rilesmattix5217
      @rilesmattix5217 Рік тому

      Dude you gotta clean you mag

    • @thomasd2695
      @thomasd2695 Рік тому

      @@rilesmattix5217 I cleaned it and added a few drops of oil after

  • @misterflannery3192
    @misterflannery3192 Рік тому +1

    Hi there I like the way you think especially about the Brew. Did you ever say at the end 1/2 28?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому

      1/2 -28? Muzzle brake thread pitch?

    • @misterflannery3192
      @misterflannery3192 Рік тому

      @@pewsandbrews
      The pitch.
      I wanted know how it runs Suppresed, if there any drawbacks this system vs. AR platform

  • @johnanon658
    @johnanon658 2 роки тому

    Is the barrel proprietary , or could it be changed w any other dedicated 22lr barrel?
    ETA, i see is proprietary af. That barrel profile is absurd, i guess it just cause blanks come think and the are trying to cut down on machine time(costs)

  • @Oldman899
    @Oldman899 2 роки тому +1

    Great informational video, cmmg alternative, Use gun grease on that bolt rod, don’t run it dry. Thank you.

  • @duro845
    @duro845 2 роки тому +2

    BCA isn't reassuring my faith purchasing would be a good idea

  • @AJKammerer
    @AJKammerer Рік тому

    I have the shorter "bufferless" .22lr upper from BCA. Mine has run like a sewing machine with any kind of ammo I've thrown at it.

  • @johnanon658
    @johnanon658 2 роки тому

    SW MP22 and, i believe, black dog, magazines have a feature that will iperate the rifles bolt catch, FYI

  • @garyxoom7714
    @garyxoom7714 2 роки тому +2

    Your mileage may vary. My experience shows that BCA has some work to do on this product. I sent mine back for the reasons listed below, but because I missed their 30 day window, they would only issue store credit, no refund. And because of these issues, I will not accept a replacement.
    1) Approx 40% failure to fire using Remington Thunderbolt ammo. After FTF in BCA upper, all rounds fired successfully in a Ruger 10/22.
    2) Approx 5% of ammo fired out of battery using Aguila Interceptor ammo, resulting in the shooter getting a face full of hot gas. This was slow fire from a bench rest during sight-in. No such issues firing the same ammo in a Ruger 10/22.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      Yep....same for me, all the ammo I used in this video was the same as my CMMG vid that had no problems at all.

    • @garyxoom7714
      @garyxoom7714 2 роки тому +1

      @@pewsandbrews Since I've had good luck with my CMMG 22LR AR conversion, I decided to build my own dedicated upper using a CMMG bolt and barrel kit. It's more money, but you get what you pay for.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому

      @@garyxoom7714 Yep. did a review on the CMMG and love it. No problems at all with any of the 5 different ammo's I ran through it. I have an ar set up just for the CMMG kit.

    • @garyxoom7714
      @garyxoom7714 2 роки тому +1

      @@pewsandbrews I've now run several hundred rounds thru the dedicated upper I built using the CMMG bolt and barrel kit. Running Black Dog Machine magazines because they fit more snugly in the mag well and don't wiggle as much as the CMMG mags. Used American Eagle high velocity, Aguila Interceptor hyper-velocity, Aguila Super Extra high velocity, CCI Stinger hyper velocity, CCI Mini Mag high velocity, CCI standard velocity and Gem Tech subsonic rounds. All the groups were decent. The Gem Techs shot the best group, but shot really low, followed by the American Eagle. Not a single hiccup today, but I didn't shoot any of that crap Remington bulk ammo either. Also, this upper build doesn't play well with my DPMS lower, but works fine on my Del-ton and Anderson lowers.

    • @lanejohnson7656
      @lanejohnson7656 Рік тому

      @@garyxoom7714 I realize this is an old post. However I find it amazing you tried running total garbage rimfire ammo thru a semi auto rifle and dogged the upper for your lack of effort. Then proceed to build something different and use quality ammo in it to obviously prove some kind of BS..
      Thunderbolt isn’t exactly known for its reliability, and damn sure not in a semi auto. Granted your built upper might be able to shoot it, but reality is the BCA would have probably ran fine with better quality ammo. I don’t own one, but I know my 10/22 was a very finicky eater stock and didn’t like any ammo dumped loose in a box or thunderbolt even packed neat in the plastic holder of 50rnd boxes. After I threw in a KIDD bolt and spring my 10/22 chews up anything I throw at it, yet you can tell it still doesn’t necessarily like thunderbolt..
      Anyways. I just find it hilarious you dog on a product when you fed it total garbage, then turned around and bragged something else you fed a prime rib.. lol

  • @johnshepherd8687
    @johnshepherd8687 2 роки тому +1

    Mine performed very well right up to the point where it fired out of battery and either blew out or blew up the firing pin. Not happy at all.

  • @dandenick6280
    @dandenick6280 Місяць тому

    what mags are you using?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Місяць тому

      Was using the standard cmmg mags, but have since gotten black dog stainless lip mags. Haven't bothered with this gun since I made the video though. Thought it might make a cheepo .22 for Steel challenge, but way too unreliable for any kind of competition.

  • @claudiodominguez.
    @claudiodominguez. Рік тому

    They shoot fine when aiming at Bud Light cans.

  • @nospam3409
    @nospam3409 2 роки тому +1

    I'm considering their 10.5" 22 upper. Let us know how it runs when you get it back out to the range again.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      The follow up is posted. Link at the end of this video

    • @paulm1062
      @paulm1062 2 роки тому

      My 10.5 running well now ran about 300 rounds last night. 3 stovepipe. But in the break in period.
      Range officer let me shoot .
      As fast as I possibly could.
      Very happy with it now !!!

  • @DieuEtMonDroit230
    @DieuEtMonDroit230 2 роки тому +1

    1) You said "it really isn't a bad upper". That is being very tolerant. From you and others experienced, it is bad upper.
    2) I appreciate your effort to make it work. You could have just sent it back, but this vid was very valuable to us.
    3) Those BC break-in suggestions/instructions are BS!!. They essentially want the buyer to wet polish their BCG and upper for them! Even of all that effort actually works, they should be doing the polishing for us.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      I guess my thought was more " it has everything you might want in a 22lr upper at a good price " , but, not so much....lol

    • @DieuEtMonDroit230
      @DieuEtMonDroit230 2 роки тому

      @@pewsandbrews Did you continue to use it? Has it ever performed well?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      @@DieuEtMonDroit230 I do steel challenge and I wouldn't use it for that. I've kinda shelved it for now, but I've heard black dog mags make it run better, I've ordered one, so we'll see.

  • @KarlDergrosse-yd6nd
    @KarlDergrosse-yd6nd Рік тому

    What brand magazine did you use?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому

      cmmg.....have some black dog metal lip ones I'll try at some point

  • @phillovaglio7613
    @phillovaglio7613 Рік тому

    they fixed the non supported chamber design that caused the case to bulge or rupture(not very safe) I sent my upper back to BCA and got back the new version.

  • @011CJ
    @011CJ 2 роки тому

    I fire manly steel 7.62x39 so I have a heavy hammer I'm curious to c if it may put holes in the rim or caus other problems .it would b nice it I did not need to change springs .just uppers .

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      I think the biggest problem might be ejection with a real heavy hammer. The little 22's might not have enough energy to cycle the bolt.

    • @011CJ
      @011CJ 2 роки тому

      @@pewsandbrews ya I was starting to think about that side of things . So in your opinion is the cmmg bolt using a 5.56 upper better then the bca 22 upper?

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому

      @@011CJ As far as reliability, yes. I haven't done accuracy testing with the BCA cause I can't get it to run reliably. The CMMG had no problems with any of the 5 different kinds of ammo I used, and was pretty accurate.

    • @011CJ
      @011CJ 2 роки тому

      @@pewsandbrews I was leaning tords the bca for a tighter bore and improved accuracy but now it seems like a toss up .all my at uppers are 7.62x39 so I need a barrel so it is same cost for both give or take .on the plus side bca comes in a side charge and I have ben looking for another side charging upper but was thinking 6.5

  • @kenhnsy
    @kenhnsy Рік тому

    The troubleshooting logic is great. more...more...

  • @billbeam8069
    @billbeam8069 2 роки тому +1

    Good review

  • @patrickorear4987
    @patrickorear4987 Рік тому

    CCI ammo tends to work best

  • @jcgardner5852
    @jcgardner5852 2 роки тому +1

    Mine took 200 rounds to break in niw runs fine.

  • @bigguy8749
    @bigguy8749 2 роки тому

    What’s the weight on your 22lr upper

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому

      Not sure....I can weigh it if you need to know.

  • @Intoxacajun
    @Intoxacajun Рік тому

    Wow, thats gotta be a bummer to get something and it work so poorly out the box. Think I'll give it an el paso...

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому

      Some people say they have had good luck with them, me and many others....not so much.

  • @konaboss83
    @konaboss83 2 роки тому +2

    I’ll stick with my Tippmanns

  • @rilesmattix5217
    @rilesmattix5217 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for no BS half the other videos are complete simps for the company.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому

      I review stuff as it works for me....it may work great for some people, but mine didn't. The 50/50 good vs bad comments usually mean quality control issues.

  • @johnanon658
    @johnanon658 2 роки тому

    Rod needs be hex or spiral…

  • @raysimmons5984
    @raysimmons5984 2 роки тому

    Is the Lower by BCA???

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому

      No, I've used 2 different ones. Neither BCA. Aero precision and palmetto state.

  • @realghostofwar4179
    @realghostofwar4179 2 роки тому +1

    I just got mine back after they put an out of spec bcg in mine

  • @johnfowler6189
    @johnfowler6189 2 роки тому

    Wish there was an upgrade for the BCG. Current design is total crap

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому +1

      I've been thinking of trying to retro fit a cmmg bolt, but haven't really gotten into it yet. Not sure if it's possible.

    • @johnfowler6189
      @johnfowler6189 2 роки тому +2

      Great minds think alike. Just wondering the same thing. I'd like to put the BCA barrel on a milspec AR-15 receiver (that I just happen to have laying around) buy the collar adapter for the CMMG bolt. Just not sure that BCA barrel is kind of a "standard" 22lr barrel.

    • @mgabriel2636
      @mgabriel2636 2 роки тому +1

      @@johnfowler6189 An oft repeated mantra is never buy new model cars or guns. Let them work the kinks out, unless you like being the beta tester.... I hope they get their engineering, design and production together.

  • @joesashiify
    @joesashiify 2 роки тому

    Better off just getting the CMMG conversion kit. That way you can jump back & forth between 22lr & 223/5.56 whenever you want.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  2 роки тому

      Yep.....I did a review on the CMMG at it ran perfectly with the exact same ammo I used for this video ( same brick of 22's ) I liked the idea of the 1/16 twist although the CMMG proved to be pretty accurate.

  • @glenn9989
    @glenn9989 Рік тому

    WHAT A gravel road that you can’t plow? In Alaska we have tons of gravel roads that are plowed in the winter. If you don’t want to go out in the cold just say so or come up with a more realistic excuse.

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому

      I bow down to your superior plowing skills. Glad you got a chance to let people know how much better you are. BTW if you watch the follow up, I did go out and test it in the cold. So there's that.

  • @HookahbrotherzTv
    @HookahbrotherzTv 6 місяців тому

    Get gas plug brother too much gas escaping simple fix

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  6 місяців тому

      Not sure what you mean by gas plug on a blowback 22 lr? Please explain.

    • @HookahbrotherzTv
      @HookahbrotherzTv 6 місяців тому

      @@pewsandbrews look up 22lr gas plug for AR 15 since it ain't running on the buffer system the gas escaping through the buffer tube that were you buy 12$ gas plug to block that buffer tube it fix mine cycle

  • @lcifermorningstar191
    @lcifermorningstar191 Рік тому

    The message I got from this video is that: This product is pure garbage, and that I should save my money. Thank you.

  • @larrymanning4180
    @larrymanning4180 Рік тому

    buy some better ammo

  • @travonmiller3337
    @travonmiller3337 Рік тому

    These guns are good he just got a trash one

    • @pewsandbrews
      @pewsandbrews  Рік тому +1

      Judging by the comments on here, wasn't just me. I do a review exactly as the firearm worked for me.