Its Electric - Camp Wood Stove by Bio Lite
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Trying out the Bio Lite Wood burning Camp stove that generates Electricity from heat to charge your devices... cooking, charging and boiling.
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Thanks for the video, Andy, really appreciate your input on this. I bought one (a Biolite 2) almost 3 years ago(?) around when this model first came out. Thought I'd share my experience with you. I have used it several times while camping/picnicking with family and friends. I have cooked hot dogs, brats, steak, chicken on the grill attachment, and heated up water for dehydrated food, making coffee, etc. The only thing is that there was a learning curve for me. I used it a few times to get the hang of how much to load the stove, how to use the fan settings, how much twigs, wood chunks, or pellets, etc. to use effectively for the cooking or heating I was doing. Some of that info is in the instruction book (a very small print booklet with lots of pages), however, they do have videos now that explain the lights, the fan use, and the overheating which shuts the unit down so that it doesn't overheat and destroy the electrical part. One still has to experiment with different biomass to get the hang of cooking on it though, but once you do it works great. It is heavy as you said ( I think between 2 and 2 1/2 lbs with grill), so for me, it's not for hiking unless I'm doing an overnighter or short weekend that I want to grill - so that is a personal choice.
Open fires are frowned upon where I do a lot of my hiking so this stove (which is okay to use) or obviously another type of stove has to come along, however - the charger on this works perfect for my phone, tablet, and chargeable headlamp, hammock lights, etc. and so I don't have to take a power pack or worry about energy use. That makes it a great choice for those occasions.
Now it permanently resides in my car boot (when not in use) with a pound of wood pellets and a small bag of split wood chunks and is magically produced anytime I want to boil water, gril/cook some food, or even have an open fire and I really hadn't planned on doing that sort of thing when I left home.
Sorry, this might be too long for a 'comment', but I thought I would share what I've learned from using this as you have shared so much knowledge/information for your subscribers like myself. ATB stay safe.
I had no idea this even existed until you mentioned it in another video. Really impressive.
I love Biolite stuff. This stove is a melding of our oldest and newest technologies, in a nice useful little package.
I got one of these last Year Andy, (minus the Grill) and tested it a couple of times during normal family camping, and I got over 1 hours burn on pellets about 3 quarters full. Very quick to boil a pan of water too. These are very efficient and clean, well worth the money. Nice review!
That is one of the most effective camp things I’ve seen yet. Love the electric generation from just doing normal camping stuff. Genius.
Thank you for showing that. Oh and that generator would be supreme on a camping wood stove.
Ingenious device The noise though..... I go to the woods to escape the sounds of the city.
Thanks, Andy. I came across this idea - a fan driven stove - a few years ago. It was developed for use in regions that had to use open, smoky fires indoors. The smoke from the traditional indoor cooking fires caused respiratory diseases. This method makes the wood pyrolyse and produce combustible gas that burns much more efficiently with much less of the nasty, carcinogenic smoke. So yes, you can heat hotdogs on a fire in your garden (taking five minutes?), but if you need to cook food INSIDE your (one room?) home taking hours, plus heating water for washing and cooking, that's a totally different prospect! Respect to the inventors! It looks like the system that generated electricity for the electric fan now also charges a battery and provides a 5V USB output.
I started owning BioLite products with the Campstove2 which you just reviewed and was almost disappointed with it until I tried using wood pellets.
Normal twigs or small wood pieces make refuelling the stove a constant demand in your attention and difficult to cook with.
Using wood pellets by filling the stove with pellets to about 10-20mm below the heat probe and lighting it on top REALLY solved all problems as you now get a maintenance free fire which burns almost 100% with very little ash and residue for about 45-50 mins.
This is perfect for cooking or looking away from it for a couple of minutes without the fire dying.
But if you are cooking for groups then the Basecamp stove is truly awesome.
We fed our family of 5 for 2 weeks using both stoves and the basecamp one comfortably runs off wood.
It really benefits from a small grate to prevent coals chocking up the burn chamber.
We use this as our portable bbq and are cooking in 5 mins compared to charcoal bbq’s which have to cool down.
It’s better at charging stuff, with a bigger battery and I charge powerbanks with the Basecamp stove. Adding the green egg set of grill grates really helps even out hot spots and cook fantastic tasting food, but I would say the grate is essential for cooking longer than about 40mins. The Basecamp stove fan is also almost silent...
I also bought the BioLite lantern as a work light for dark spaces and phone charger if running low.
All awesome products with multiple uses.
I have this as part of my bug out pack. I like it as it burns well with small sticks and pine cones with little or no smoke (won’t draw attention to my location) and brings water to a boil quickly. The ability to charge my phone, radio or gps is a great plus. I don’t carry the grill with me. Sure I can cook with regular fire pit but there maybe situations that I don’t want the light and smoke being seen. To be able to boil water quickly, eat and move on in less than 30min is my goal. Great video for those that have seen the product on the shelf and decide if it fits with their needs. Thanks
They also now make a pizza dome kit for their larger base camp burner, solar products and a whole slew of lighting options from headlights to table/tent lanterns and string lights. I have one of their rechargeable headlights and it's brilliant! (pun intended!) SUPER bright with several different settings (dimmable, flash, red light). It's also a very light.....light! I don't even know I'm wearing it most times. Great and pretty ingenious products. 👍 Great review Andy! Hope you're keeping safe and ATB from Nova Scotia 🇨🇦 - Darby
That is the maddest thing I have ever seen on the grill front. Brilliant, just brilliant tech for remote location villages and hut dwellers. I agree, imagine that on the side of a hut grill, charge the lights, phones or whatever. Amazing.
A nice bit of kit Andy, thanks for showing it x
I like the looks of this and how it works but the sound of the fan....a no-go for me. Same reason I don’t have a jet-boil type stove either. Nice review Andy!
I know what you mean.. its about the same noise as a gas stove.. good on long trips for quick boils but not so much for chilling in nature
@@kentsurvivalgearreview586 Since I put up with gas stove noise for decades, I could live with this for cooking: modern light doodads would make the battery resevoir much better company than my gas lanterns.
Unnatural sound?
Absolutely genius this product!!! Didn't even know that existed and I am absolutely fascinated with it!
Really enjoyed this Andy, seeing this type of kit was really interesting, don’t think I’d go for one just because of the noise. Thank you for showing it 👍🏻😁
This isn't too bad...especially for an emergency when you dont have place to charge your phone...
Nice intro...nicer than on main channel 🙂
Big thumbs up for reviewing a Biolite product - (I'm amazed its taken you so long!) They're amazing bits of kit supporting a genuine cause for good.
Can I talk up their social responsibility aspect - theres a real issue in developing countries with cooking on open fires - fundamentally (anyone who's gone from a living in a house with a wood burner or multi-fuel stove to an open fire will understand) a closed stove burns so much more efficiently than an open fire ie you need less fuel for the same benefit, but to have a closed stove costs more money up front. Also as noted in another comment they've proved their worth in disaster relief.
Yup, not a lightweight camping bit of kit but good fun for car camping - I have the fire pit and it genuinely works as a BBQ and also the fan unit very much helps reduce the 'smoke in the eyes' effect you often get from normal fire pits!
I’ve been so close so many times to adding the stove to my basket, it’s great to see a full review on it, I’m still not sure as I love my jetboil which does it all apart from the charge bit, that said I do think you should coin the idea about hot tent application, this would fit right in 👍👍
Its definitely a niche I think, has its place but for some a small power bank is enough. I suggested the hot tent thing to them but I don't think marketing were very interested in passing it along.. id make one if I had knowledge, you can buy thermoelectric generators on ebay.
@@kentsurvivalgearreview586 Could you not just slightly modify an existing hot tent stove, (small hole for the heat sensor and a simple method of attachment), and use the actual Biolite battery pack/fan/charger itself? No reason I can think of why that wouldn't work. The only thing is from what I can tell, they don't sell the battery pack/fan/charger unit separately so, you'd end up buying this stove anyway. But still, can't see why it wouldn't be interchangeable with a modified hot tent stove. 🤷♂️ (sounds like a neat project/video idea for an ambitious and creative UA-camr....*hint hint*😉)
I have had one of these for a while now , also have the grill attachment and the coffee maker , works a treat .The abiltiy to generate electricity is fantastic .
Nice vid'
Interesting technology. Very useful in certain situations. I bet you were happy when the fan turned off and that whirring noise went away. I was!! 😁
Always seen these on the shelves never seen one work before. Another good review
I scored the whole set up at REI here in the states close out 99 bucks so I jumped on it. I have another one that I have used they are great little stoves I enjoy using it. Thanks for the video and stay safe.
Always wondered about their stoves, thanks for the video 🤙🤙🤙
The sound it makes would drive me bananas.
We love ours. We also have the fire pit and the hanging lanterns by bio lite. We use our stuff while Rving and it sure gets attention from others while being used.
That’s a brilliant set up the addition of the cooking aspect of it would allow bigger or longer pieces of wood to be feed down the longer neck / feeding hole. But the pellets sound like the most logical fuel as you could easily fill a food bag with pellets so all self contained if wood isn’t attainable up on a mountain or in snow , brilliant. Great review again mate great channel.
A hot tent stove with this tech on the side would be incredible
Nice review Andy 👍. A fishing buddy of mine, got one last year. Supper cool gadget. Then pulled it apart, to adapt it to a small wood stove. Working Awesome for the hot tenting, had to make additional branches. So we didn't melt it 🤪
I carry this same stove packed inside the biolite kettlepot and perculator in my backpack, I've carried it all 2,198 miles last season when we hiked Maine to Georgia. I wouldn't recommend packing the grill part, but i don't have any issues with the weight like some ul hikers whine about but yeah i absolutely love packing this thing , cooks charges my camera,Satellite communicator and my headlamp, its awesome 👌 great review by the way, tip use pine cones and the fire vortex is hotter for boiling water for coffee and i highly recommend the percolator accessorie for the kettlepot
I confirm your statements. I also tested wood pellets in this stove and it is a good option, but I would suggest to use hard wood ones, as they last longer (same as in a wood stove or a fireplace). The difference was really huge.
Grill: well, it works, but it remains a small (and bulky!) one :-) Using its lid to control the heat is quite effective. While using the grill, my experience is to refuel it regularly, with a small amount each time, too avoid big flames, as they tend to burn the meat and to bring soot onto it. Hence, a little less wood or pellets will give enough heat but smaller flames. Another way to "control" heat is to observe the grill, as there are different areas, speaking of heat. Typically, the sides are "cooler" :-)
Thank you for this interesting video.
ATB
Great Review. What a useful piece of kit. Thank You.
This is just a peltier unit, you could build one or buy a bit of it off ebay as they're used in electric cool boxes, just need to reverse the current. What they should really build is a unit to stick next to a fire to generate power. Take a look on Ebay you can buy the components off there for a fraction of the price.
Nice video Andy!
Very interesting concept... I like it!
Had one for a few years now..
its pretty amazing..
made much coffee and many breakfasts on it..
Not cheap though or real practical !!
Turn on the fan immediately and it will light right up.
Been wondering what this is like for a while, nice one for the review Andy!
I have the Campstove and Campstove 2. The 2 charges and the other just has the fan. I also have the grill. I love them. I take them instead of my Coleman dual fuel stoves when I’m not over landing. I don’t do bush craft, and I’m not into ultra light backpacking. I don’t like messing with little propane tanks, that’s why I never considered the Jetboil. I’ve had them for about 3 years, and they work great. I’ve even used them to grill at the house. I’m going to get the Fire pit this spring for at the house.
Bought mine for 60 bucks with the grill plate and light pretty happy about the buy.
That's an interesting gadget, a little bit rich for my budget but it's good to see these things put to the test and who better to do it than you Andy. thanks for the demo :)
What an extraordinary device!
Very cool! I can see off grid uses ✨👌
I have a bio light stove like this. Not all the rest of the stuff, just the stove. The ability to charge a device because you cooked supper is great. With dehydrated meals, I need to only boil water. I can keep a headlamp charged, phone up and a spot device for communication in case of emergency.
Great review! I have been reading a lot about these and watched a bunch of reviews and have decided im going to get one of these for my trip next summer to extreme northern Canada. I am going to take a supply of pellets with me for it because it seems like they are a no hassle fuel source for stove and no risk of a leaking fuel container and contaminating stuff it may be stored with.
As always a graet revue!
Awesome little device!
The thermal fan is noisy!
Interesting!
Ooh hot tent chimney attachment nice to see
You have my full attention Andy - no competition from Simon today!
haha, :p
Great to have a usb light to shine at your fire 👍
That's brilliant, love it
love these reviews, thanks again!
That little stove is nifty. Would love to see a long term test and review. Great video!!
Had mine for seven years now where’s everybody been mine still going strong
You're 'mixed grill' worked well (that made me chuckle when you said that)
It's really strange you mentioned the tent stove, I wrote to a company a couple of weeks ago that make woodstoves asking them if the tech was available to make a small generator to light a house kitchen with LED's or similar and charge appliances. I haven't had a reply.
oh man id love one of these for my tent stove!
A great review on Electric camp wood stove nice piece of kit like it Andy .
Thanks Andrew
and we have the lighting just love the company
I have a bio stove and had it for about four years but I haven't used it much, it works great and gets hot very fast but I had to keep adding wood very often when the impeller fan is on high, and to charge a phone, it's best to keep feeding it with wood constantly with the fan on high or medium for the phone to charge quicker.
I bought one a while back as I was really excited about the idea of turning twigs into electricity... but after a few practice runs in the garden I eventually decided it was just a gimmick really. Too heavy/bulky for backpacking in practice. If you have perfectly dry wood in the right shape and size it works but using twigs often just seemed to generate smoke, noise (from the fan) and not a lot of heat for cooking or electricity for charging. When it came to an actual backpacking / camping trip I just took a BCB Firedragon stove and a powerbank.
As you say though it might make sense for a long trip in the wilderness where eventually the weight / bulk / cost of powerbanks might exceed that of the biolite stove.
I have had a bio lite since 2014. They work great! If you completely turn the fan off the fire is completely manageable and the battery charges very quickly. I bought mine before they had all the bells and whistles, so I just use a metal camp cup and a cook kit on mine, works perfect!
I heard the generator portion tends to burn out quickly?
It hasn't for me. I use it to top off my phone. You don't need to keep the fan running constantly as Andy does, I only use that when I first light the stove to quickly get it going. If you have really dry fuel you don't even need it.Once you finish cooking remove the generator portion if you want and charge your phone that way. Great for days solar is impossibke, great for cooking.food. I.don't use any of the add on attachments, I have the basic burn pot and generator and cook with my mess kit.
Interesting bit of kit !
I could totally see the biolites for people that live 100% off grid. They still need to charge things. The sound is a bit obnoxious but no more then my svea or coleman white gas stoves. Not like you'd spend hours with your stove running. I've almost bought a few of their products several times since they released them.
These proved vital in hurrican katrina.power and heat through the debris of disaster
a good point Alan, thanks
Nice review, you don’t see these used too often I guess coz of the price tag. The gasification and fan looked good.
The price Tripled...I was going to get one(just the Burner" now it's 150$
Coolest thing I ever saw. There on back order but iam getting one.....
Great review brother!
Thats a very interesting bit of kit Andy I would like to see how it works in a teepee/lavvu there again the fumes would probably be a problem so scrap that 🤣🤣🤣 nice review Andy atvb Jimmy 😎😎👍👍
cheers jimmy, yeah, this wouldn't be too suited haha, a thermoelectric generator on a tent stove would be great though
i got a set a couple years ago basically for free at REI with a sale price/credit card rebate combo. Skeptical at first, but it has proven useful. grilling a steak, boiling water for coffee, all on a handful of twigs. The actual usefulness of the charging system however could use some improvements
I like the concept of this Andy a great idea but it’s probably not practice to carry this about for a trekking camp.All the beest pal stay safe 🏴🏴🏴👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Love the concept, hate the noise unfortunately. I think the whole idea/technology is still relatively new. I’d like to be able to turn the fan off at times but still have it charge the battery. I’m not a fan of the jetboil or gas stoves because of the noise. I know there’s a time and a place for gas obviously but if I’m relaxing in the woods it has to be a standard wood fire. Thanks got the review Andy, you’ve saved me £230. Hehehe 😉
we have the stove and the pia dome bundle base camp kit and love it !! i am a stove junky I want to get this bundle too
Go for it! It’s very useful when car camping to have a 2nd hob.
We used the Basecamp for grilling meat and the campstove 2 for the rice and veg with wood pellets.
Family of 5 fed for 2 weeks all meals like this 👍
Looks a brilliant idea and good bit of kit, maybe a few tweaks and it will be spot on.. What do think?
Your thoughts on a wood stove in a camp same as mine ! May get way more power over a way longer time period. Better review than some I watched.
Really cool stuff😀
I treated myself to one of these and also the base camp pizza oven stove.
I was sent a damaged base camp stove by biolite and when I asked to return it and get a replacement the biolite customer service was atrocious. I ended up having to threaten them with trading standards to get them to comply with basic consumer law (replacing something that was damaged on arrival), their last email to me ended with them saying they would send me a replacement but I was never ever to contact them again. Absolutely disgusting!
I brought directly from them happy to pay a bit more to support their charitable works, NEVER AGAIN!
This replacement worked lovely (athough I had to use a leg from the damaged one (which they didn't want back) as the replacement one they sent was missing a leg!).
It worked lovely twice, then about 6mnths later I tried to use it on a camp and the battery had died. There is no way to charge the battery at home (bad design) and I really couldn't cope with dealing with biolite again so that was the best part of £400 wasted
I was gutted especially as I had spent so much on the pizza oven lid too.
So far so good with the biolite2 (which you can charge from home) and grill, although it is very slow to charge things from.
My advice is do not buy direct from biolite and don't waste your money on a base camp stove, with the grill attatchment the biolite2 is plenty, if you want pizza just order one to be delivered.
I've owned this setup for close to 10 years. The charger is not good, better off with a solar charger. The grill works good but if u are burning sticks it's more work then it's worth.Since I went to Jetboil the biolite is a paperweight
Andy, does the cup, that you boiled water in, fit into the grill at the hole where the fuel was added? If so you could cook and heat soup or water at the same time for a complete meal. Really enjoy your videos!
Just for me.. theres somethin to cook on.. and somethin efficient that powers its own fan. I dont really care whether itd charge my phone in the scenario Im thinkin about. I really like the video though. Very informative
Interesting product, its come on since the first edition. I was thinking of a rapid boil system and this would do it without the need for gas canisters and associated waste perhaps.
certainly an efficient burner
What a stove!
I had one of these. Hated the stove, but I have to admit the BBQ attachment was pretty good.
I got a firebox and never regretted the switch. As for the helping 3ed world countries, I strongly suspect that's just marketing
Pretty amazing technology
I wonder if I could cut the same type of holes on the side of a tent stove and just use the power unit on it if it gets it’s power from the heat electrode
Great video, any idea how much these are in £ or $AUD? Thanks 👍
Technology quite amazing....
The charged internal battery - how long will that take to charge phone fully out of interest?
Like yourself, I'm hoping they come up with one for my Winnerwell stove! :)
I rented one of these for a week long back country bicycle trip, August 2018. I was not impressed. Maybe it was because I was over 6000 feet above sea level, and all I had to burn was pine. Nice fire, but hardly any recharge ability. Maybe at a lower altitude and with hard wood, might do better. Good thing I had an Anker Power core battery and solar panel to charge my devices.
Would be good to hear the weights of these items?
Honestly I was thinking this type of thing would be more expensive than it is. Surprisingly affordable considering what you're getting. I did a quick look at their fire pit and that seems like it would be a very neat addition to a vehicle or canoe camp setup where you aren't having to hike very far with the gear as the pit weighs over 19 pounds. Very interesting piece of kit.
@Benghali In Platforms You're right. I was just now watching a review on the fire pit and the fellow just mentioned about it not charging itself unlike the small stove. For me that would be a bit of a deal breaker. In that instance i'd probably go for more of a Winnerwell folding fire pit to save on space and go with the little stove like Andy has here potentially.
@@Shane-Singleton I have the fire pit and from a full charge (without then using it to charge phones etc) it will do multiple BBQ sessions - obviously if you're talking about all night parties it might not last out but a weekend with BBQ Friday and Saturday plus a bit of burning after then fine - you don't have to use the fan but it does really does help keep the smoke down unlike normal fire pits. (Sorry Andy this is different product!)
@@gwydionball4114 For me something like this I would like the added utility to be able to light a fire, get it going, and be able to have the option to charge my battery on my phone up in an emergency. Say if I had forgotten to charge my extended pack, or forgot to bring it, etc. even if the pack on the machine were low or drained.
When we were kids you just put your hotdog on a stick and stuck it in the fire. What's next, campfire microwave?
Professional chef's tent next to sleeping tent complete with convection oven pizza oven sterling silver sink and marble countertop? ☺😏
Yep not going to survive without all this stuff and a supermarket nearby this is just a outdoor cooking program
This technology was developed to help prevent respiratory diseases due to the use of wood burning stoves in developing countries - it looks like they are now using the technology more widely. I applaude this. This has wider issues, glaciers in Northern India are becoming so blanketed in black smoke particles from local villages that they are melting due to warming from the absorption of the sun's IR rays.
I prefer wood stove you can also burn coal in them. I have a mine bbq one :) I think it is better than electric one cause electric too much noise and you might attract predators in the forest some want to keep a low profile.
I think I saw the mark 1 in use for phone charging after New York had a major winter storm and power cuts
🤔 just in case volume/weight and especially money won’t matter this one seams to be a funny gimmick to impress 🤪
not really gimmick. ive seen these bout for a few years not and from wot folk hve told me theyre pretty good things to have
I had no idea this type of thing existed, just seems like black magic
That’s the version 2, I still have version 1!
Pelliter device...
It's the Peltier effect, in this case a temperature difference between the probe in the heat of the flame and the outside produces a voltage and a large current. This is just like a thermocouple, but the thermocouple produces only a very small current (but still a voltage), certainly not enough to charge a battery or power a USB output.
I think it would be around $500 in Aus? Great idea.
You said you’d like to see the power component for a tent stove. They make one of these also 👍
do they really? Ive not seen it on their website, whats it called?
Interesting but to much tech. i will stick with my firebox stove. Thank you Andy for taking the time to review this.
My brother has one. We started cooking at the same time. I had a standard charcoal grill. I finished cooking first and we ate what was cooked on my grill. His bio grill didnt cook his meat thoroughly enough after several hours. He gave up and threw it on my grill
These stoves were originally developed for the parts of the 3rd World that have to cook indoors on wood burning stoves. They have a high incidence of CO poisoning in those countries and needed a stove that burned the scarce fuel without producing as much CO so it would be safer and would require less fuel gathering. The people in these areas have cellphone service around them and rely on it for communication and news, but they didn't have electricity to charge the phones. They would have to walk many miles to get to a village that had electricity and then wait as their phone charged before walking back. Since these stoves had to generate their own electricity to run the fan it was the perfect way to also charge a cellphone, so they built in the USB port. The ones donated to these people are much bigger, I think, for preparing large family meals and they charge multiple phones as well. I thought they were very cool when I first heard of them and still do.
Has anyone tried putting that power unit on other stoves or building something similar in to something to use when hot tenting? Would be an interesting alternative to solar panels on shorter darker days but I can't really find much info on how the power generation works.
Great video! I’m in the market for a good knife, what type of knife are you using? Especially when your cutting small pieces of wood, any suggestions on a knife? Thanks
I use a condor bushlore, personally I love it, its done everything I need it too
If the unit lasts it lookz like it might be a good unit .
The USB ports ha e been changed recently. Does the stove and the fire pit attachment have the new USB port or an adapter ??
It would be valuable to know just how much electric power and so on is storeable in the battery in this system...and how well the system holds a charge. As it stands, a good few basic needs are catered for in the marketing package. A good light over a cook pot/frypan is always useful in the hours of darkness or twilight. The pot looks quite fine with silicon insulated handles and the ability to do a Ramen noodle package or to boil water for a pouch-cooked meal. In hot and humid weather, I like to run a USB compatible fan in a two-person tent and it is much nicer if it can run 'all night' or near enough to that for natural cooling to take over.