How to power an LGB (G scale) train? Analog or Digital?
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2016
- In this video I am comparing two types of power, analog and digital. The analog system will allow you to run one or two trains on the same track in the same direction. The digital system (MTS - Multi Train System) will allow you to run more than one train and also control other things such as points, signals and couplers. I hope this helps a few people.
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Thanks for this helpful video! After 30 years of analog LGBs I am debating going digital and this video was very helpful in understanding all of the components needed.
Thank you :-)
Super clear and easy to understand !!! Thank you !
Thank you :-)
That's very informative - just what I needed to know as I'm thinking of going digital.
Thank you . It's worth doing if you want to run more than one train or have other accessories to control.
I am looking to run two trains at the same time, but I only have the basic 1 amp transformer, so I would need the 5 amp transformer and an MTS controller along with the remote control?, thanks.
One other thing to note about digital systems (regardless of whether they're DCC standard or a proprietary system) is that while they make it easier to control multiple trains on the same track, they actually make it harder to control them automatically. The easiest method of layout automation is to use an automated block control system using magnets on the locomotives, reed switches on the track and electric signals with built in power switches to electrically activate or deactivate blocks as trains run along the layout. You can only do this with analog control, with a digital system you'd have to give that locomotive a new command to start running once its block is activated again. For automated digital control, you would need a computer to track the locations of each locomotive around the layout (Marklin has a unique DCC system that implements this into the main control unit itself, so if you run 3-rail HO you don't need a separate computer) and then send control codes to stop and start them at each signal.
Yep, magnets are probably a great way. I do like the LGB setup, its quite basic, although this is a few years old now. I have seen their new stuff coming out, but it seems a lot more expensive. I suppose its a sign of the times!
Very informative, thank you for taking the time to share this video.
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Very well and nicely done! Informative and certainly demystify’s the cloud between analog and digital systems. Perhaps they can live side-by-side after all! Cheers.
Cheers.
Brilliant most helpful
Glad it helped - Thank you.
Great video. Please make one on how to set up the locomotive on the MTS
If I get time, I will... I have packed everything away at the moment :-)
I have recently just done this. :-) ua-cam.com/video/erRBPZpwjwY/v-deo.html
We're looking to potentially changing our analog setup to a digital one. I'm curious; how does it both control analog and digital? And since it can do that, can it still power signals and lights? Otherwise, great video. Sorry, if I missed the explanation for my question. Also, the sound the analog train makes, is that as loud as it sounds in this video?
hey sorry for the late response. It can power a number of DCC (Digital devices) and will send a pulse down the track to control anything that is analogue. If you have two analogue trains on the same section of track then they will both move when the command is given. With regards to points, signals, there is an add-on kit you need, however from the controller, you can control everything individually. Massoth even do a program which can be run from a laptop and fully automated.
A very informative video . But I assume that locomotives fitted with DCC decoders will not be able to respond to the commands from the MTS and only LGB digital locos can be controlled . Please correct me if am wrong here and thanks
Hello, any loco with a DCC should work. There's not too many brands out there, but yes, if you do not have a DCC you cannot control the functions.
Thanks a lot for the informative video. I will set up something like this in near future. Just a quick question - are you aware of any difference between 55006p vs the 55005p? Thanks once again for the excellent video.
Not sure i'm afraid. I know for a while they did a series version (this was without the P on the end) however at a guess the 06 might be slightly newer than the 05?
@@dylan400d I just got one of these and hoping to set it up very soon. The LGB numbering system tends to get a little confusing. And as you mentioned the 06 might be a newer model. Thanks for this video, it is going to make it easier to get started. Cheers.
@@rw4833 brilliant. Good luck with the setup
This might be a long shot, but any chance you would want to sell all the MTS stuff in this video? Great video by the way!
Hi, thank you for the offer, at the moment, no... however you never know until you ask.
I've searched very long to find a video that show's how the transformer works. Can you make a Video for the connecting the cables and how to programming the train? Sorry for my english.
i've done one here. ua-cam.com/video/erRBPZpwjwY/v-deo.html
Starters should probably use the lgb analogs tho the lgb digitals are quite pricey and not reqlly keeping up with todays technology there are other brands that focus on digital g scale controlling and they make much better stuff which will allow you to do all this and control track branches and all that stuff what im trying to say is look for other brands compatible with lgb trains because it will be of much higher quality
The starter sets are mostly 'DCC ready' which is great for later on. If you only have a small track setup or one or two trains, then you won't necessarily need a DCC setup. It's great to see what the future holds, being able to just control everything from a smartphone is the aim.
Hi, I doubt you still comment on these videos but I was wondering how you can add lights to the cab of LGB steam engines such as the Stainz or the LGB Mogul, thanks!
2:56 when you think about it those kind of look like washing mashines
lol, yes I suppose they do. I didn't really think of them like that.
Holy shit yes
the analoque one is made by the same factory as the fleischmann ones
Good to know.
With this wireless system, do you have to use both analog power and digital power? Or can you just use one?
No you can just use one. If you want to use both you can, at the same time. If you want to use analouge power you just use 00 on the control pad and off you go. Its intelligent enough to be able to use the digital and analouge power at the same time.
great video but i got a transformer from lgb that has a connection that looks like a light bulb and a track sign, what do those do? i tried connecting it from the wiring on my track but my train just buzzes and stalls. but when i connect the wiring to the train symbol on the transformer, it runs but no lights turn on my train, any help? thanks!!!
This might be a light to show the direction of a set of points. Typically, with MTS systems you need a separate controller which connects to the track and then connects to up to four sets of points. You would need one of these before operating other devices.
How do you know what the channel is for each train?
Usually, when you purchase a decoder they are set to channel 3 (i think - it could be 4). You can then use a programmer to set it to a new channel. With the LGB set you can easily do this.
So with this set up you can only run only one analog loco the rest have to be digital correct
Yes, however, if you were to put two analogue trains on the track both would move in the same direction whereas the digital ones can be controlled independently.
I live in Ireland, where can I buy these items from?
I have purchased a lot of stuff from www.dragon-gscale.co.uk/ . I'm sure he will ship to Ireland as he has shipped all over the world.
Hi, I’m looking to sell an LGB steam locomotive 26841 ... however I do not have the analogue or digital devices shown in your video. How much do you reckon I can sell it for and where is the best place to do it? Many thanks.
Hello, it's sometimes difficult to price locos as it does depend on age, condition, use etc. Keep an eye on eBay to see what similar lots/ auctions go for. You might be lucky with things like Facebook marketplace or Gumtree, but it really does depend on the uptake for your local area. Lastly, are there any local model shops near ? Some might offer a commission sale on your behalf.
@@dylan400d Hi there, thanks for the reply. Luckily I’ve managed to sell it for £395 on eBay... which whilst at first might sound a bit too cheap to give away... I took into consideration that it isn’t boxed and I don’t even know if it fully works on the track! Many thanks.
@@rustinpolaris4074 £395 isn't bad. As you have said, it didn't have a box which would have added a bit more value etc.
Do they has a remote that do the horn and the lights and the un couple car and make announcements
Hello, yes this remote will do it, however you need the additional modules to allow that. In regard to horn and lights if you watch my other video here ua-cam.com/video/Viuc3AXj1p8/v-deo.html this is an example of the Piko B218 with a Massoth decoder. For points, you would need a LGB / Massoth Point decoder.
Hi,what is the pc software for this then please?thanks for three informative video
There's a few different types of software out there for PC, you can use TrainController which is around £110 although thats for the bronze starting software, they do more expensive versions, LGB did do the MTS 6 software and with that you'll need something like this: www.lgb.com/products/details/article/55045/. Its not cheap.
Do you know anybody that put song in a LGB locomotive sd70
i'm not sure; it depends on the decoder you have too. What have you got?
How would you know if your train is analog or Digital.
It depends on when they were bought and the sticker placed on the loco. This site has it pretty much covered. www.allaboutlgb.com/lgb%20decoder%20installation.html . Lots of my trains were from the early 90s and therefore didn't have any form of decoder in. A few later models indeed do have the option to have a decoder plug directly in.
Hi found a lgb 55106 but didn't come with instructions and can't find any on line can you help thanks
i'm not sure sorry. What language are you looking for Also, have you contacted LGB direct?
Is dcc the same as mts?
Yes.
You sound like Peter sam in thomas and frainds
Thank you :-)
Hand held cams sucks
This was taken with an iPhone 4 many years ago - I think it came out well.