lol they think they know things but don't , owned same 2 dodge cummins for the last 25 years and both have same berrings but the 98 doesn't have front ABS like the 02 so no hole drives me nuts lol , so I bought lifetime ones and just change out them and axle u joints and brakes every 4 years or so .@@Tomsfoolery.
I see you too have worked on this specific issue. 1 damned time I did that shit. 1 time. It wont see the tonenring. Random ABS activation ensues. Codes will be c0265/c0222c0232, erratic speed sensor, abs unit not reading right, just all sorts of whack shit. If you did PACK THE TONE RING WITH GREASE... Well That sucks, its a right pain to clean out But before you buy new sensors and abs units and bearings and shit Clear every last tiny memory of the grease out of there. There is no exit hole for the carb clean or grease to come out. So you've done funked your ish all the way up? Clear the rest of the day. Gather the trinity of old toothbrushes, carb cleaner and light the shrine to mechanical gods, the sulfide used gear oil attracts the spirits of old mechanics, they will cheer you on by spite and ebentually when youve busted enough knuckles and gotten carb cleaner innall the cuts several times, you might be judged as worthy to re-install the bearing WITHOUT GREASING THE TONE RING, and youll be dialed. Freshly red faced from the irritation that comes only from scewin yourself over on a repair. It is the way. Go forth and warn the younguns if you see them about to make the same mistake. It is our penance. 😂
@@TheCaperfishI think you're missing his point. He wants to see how you guys think the grease is actually getting to the bearing. Because it's not. That sensor hole doesn't get you access to the bearings, just the tone ring. Which doesn't need grease - there is no benefit to having grease in that area, but there are negatives...
You are missing the point , You can actually see the inner and outer berrings on each side of the tone ring if you look in hole on an angle lol stop it , they are right there in same cavity , the only seals are on the outsides of the assembly
all 32 of was with thumbs up google (dodge ram unit bearing cut away view ) and hit images you will find what you have been missing lol took me all of 10 seconds
It most definitely does and will push the old grease out of the seal if you keep pumping. That's actually how I do it until the dirty discolored grease is gone.
You really shouldn't put grease on a tone ring. Chevy has had issues in the past with failing wheel bearing seals allowing grease to get all over the tone ring, causing ABS faults. The repair is to clean the tone ring with solvent and blow it out with compressed air. I've had to do this dozens of times.
lol the tone ring is full of grease from factory lol its not gona affect anything , the grease will move off the ring and get into bearings when wheel spins and heats up a bit , stop the foolishness
The tone ring runs on the outer face of the bearing not inside, do not add grease to the tone ring, the grease will attract dirt and dirt is Farris, this will change the voltage generated and the ecm/abs module uses the voltage to know how fast the wheel is moving, all critical systems in a vehicle use this information directly or indirectly.
the tone ring is literally touching the bearing cages it sits in-between them , how would dirt ever get on the tone ring , the tone ring is covered in the same grease as the berrings from the factory
@@TheCaperfish the tone ring does not sit in between the bearing races, hub bearings use conical bearings that are in a sealed housing, the tone ring sits on the outside face of the seal cover, there is no such thing as a “wet” tone ring in a hub bearing.
@@TheCaperfish you do not know what you are talking about, google could be your friend to not look ignorant so please do your research before posting comments that you have no knowledge of.
The reason they are sealed is that contrary to popular belief you can over lubricate bearings and shorten bearing life, which most tend to do, also excessive preloaded that constantly seems to be applied also shortens bearing life, take those 2 out of the equation and sealed wheel bearing life is wayyyyy beyond what was achieved with traditional serviced bearings !
The sensor measures the gaps between the reluctor ring and it measures the time in between each Gap in that reluctor ring so if there's no Gap in The Reluctor ring you're going to get a ABS code and light.
If you filled the gaps with metal, you would be correct. Grease is not magnetic so you’re incredibly wrong. This isn’t something I just thought up. I have been doing this for 191,000 miles. Never an ABS issue.
I have a 04 ram with this exactly set up and you guys want to know what happened after doing this?? My bearing last almost 160k miles no kidding, in fact after installed free hub spindles the bearings were in good condition I just replace them to have locking hubs and get rid off of the lousy doge 4x4 system
@@TheCaperfish good to know. But in a lightrail train situation, the grease captures metallic dust from the rails and steel tires, that does cause issues. The car situation… I can see how that would be different.
@@matthewdorsett9446 agreed , the amount of metal dust would play a part in your situation , here though if there is that much wear metal in the grease to cause a problem that would mean the bearing is toast anyway , it would of fell off truck first if they were wore that bad lol
The bad thing about this on 4x4 SuperDuty... the axle rides on a little needle bearing inside.. So even though this keeps the main bearings alive, the little needle bearing goes bad and then wears a groove around the outer shafts. I don't know if they have changed it since then, but that's how it is on my 2002 F350
@@mattbrown9484 Yes.. but the Ford SD still has a similar "hub" style main bearing like this, for the wheel. but like I said: if you do this "trick" to a SD, you still have the pesky little needle bearing that free spins around the shaft-- that likes to fail. In other words: if you do this on a SD and ignore the needle bearing, it's not gonna turn out well for your 4x4 shafts.
@@oregonfordguy9812 My wheels are noisy.. I'm sure my needle bearings have eaten half way through the shaft by now. lol.. I wouldn't expect any less at 240k miles.
Thank you to all the people that informed others not to do this, that speed sensor relies on reading the tone ring inside the hole he put the grease into, which won't work to well with all that grease in there. This will affect your abs and throw codes, and good luck getting that grease out without having to replace the hub.
lol the tone ring was full of grease from the factory , it doesn't matter if hub is 1/4 full 1/2 full or 3/4 full of grease , there will always be the same amount of grease in the few thou gap between the sensor and tone ring , it does not throw codes stop it
It’s a wheel speed sensor that tells the ABS system what rotational speed the tire is spinning. On this truck, each front tire has them and there’s one on the rear differential for the rear tires. Newer trucks have individual ones for each rear tire as well as the fronts.
@Tomsfoolery. I am a professional tech and have been for almost 20 years now.... I really truly hope this is a parody video.. false information like this is what I hate most. when I hear customers say "I did it myself, saw a video online", I know it's going to be a pain to fix. Some of your videos have decent information too that's why I am not sure if you really think that's how a bearing works....
Another "quick tip"...don't try this with your mid-to-late 90's Chevy pickups, as grease piling on this wheel speed sensor can trip the ABS at low speeds. This will inhibit your ability to brake normally.
😂😂😂he obviously doesn’t understand what happens to vehicles in the upper Midwest, that speed sensor will never just wiggle out like that, unless said vehicle is new. But thanks for the tip. Like others have said my truck bearing are sealed the only place that grease is going is everywhere but the bearing
Those sealed hub bearings are designed to be non-serviceable. If you want them to last to at least their advertised lifetime, make sure they are properly installed. Most have a set torque rating for the axle nut. Too loose or too tight and you shorten the life of that hub. Also, make sure the spindle where that hub goes is clean and free of debris/rust to prevent deformation of the hub. Simple, do it right the first time and you won’t have to do it over.
He pulled up that impala wheel hub and I instantly knew it was like the one off of my car, then he says it, a Chevy impala. It's not a bad thing, it's not hard to change on an impala as long as it's not rusted through like any vehicle could get. There are ways to service it though.
Don’t try this, more than likely the sensor will not come out due to the o-ring hanging up on the rust and dirt. Ones you break the sensor then you’re have a problem.
Thanks I wish I had known this 30 years ago. Changing these bearing hubs is a major job pounding and cracking loose those three bolts. I wonder why the mechanics don't do this. It's all part of the Auto parts scam. Thanks
For the love of god people These type of bearings are not the same as what you think lol I even cut one cross section, wish I could post a pic on here to show all you fools , you just keep working on yer bicycles and think ya know what’s goin on ya gearbox
you can see the actually roller bearings when you look in the hole at an angle stop the madness , they are right there lol on both sides of the tone ring foo
I see the misinformation machine is still going strong. This is what happens when there’s no fact checking involved. SEALED bearing. See? It’s right there in the name. Also, do you even know that’s the correct grease?? If you gonna do it wrong, at least do it with the correct supplies. No one likes a halfassed halfasser.
So there are 3 camps here one with people that do it , , one with people that just don't think its a good idea , to add grease to the bearing and this fine its their own opinion and THEN there is another group that think the grease can''t get to the bearing by pumping in that hole , they are Wrong that is a FACT , but are too stupid to realize it and do some research lol ,they come on here and don't have a clue and yapping . . What camp are you in ?
Unless you have tapered roller bearings which you would be showing the bearings and the bearing race themselves You're not lubricating anything The tone rings are completely outside on purpose they have to be on the outside they can't have anything on them they must be clean and dry they make an electromagnetic field with that magnet putting anything else can actually fuck up the signal and make the vehicle go stupid or just start yelling low tire like my grandmother's 2002 Buick century that was before the days of TPMS Like I said unless you're taking tapered roller bearings apart cleaning them checking them and putting them back and you're packing them with new grease you're not doing anything All the other bearings out there that you buy at a major parts store for most cars and even some pickup trucks even Jeeps are sealed units there's no zerk fitting AKA Grease nipple for a grease gun there's nothing that you can do
Jesus Christ..... Don't do this people. Or actually do. And then bring your truck to me and I will replace your unit bearings when they inevitably go to shit a couple weeks later.
a sensor ring being greased will do nothing for you except problems eventually. Like premature sensor wear. No one recommends this. It also looks like a bolt on hub. They should not require replacement gor a long time.
wrong , the tone ring is full of grease from the factory and the inner and outer bearing sit right next to it how would grease cause sensor wear anyway ? lol 'They should not require replacement gor a long time." LOL you obviously never had a dodge with aftermarket Chinese unit berrings before
You do know this is a sealed bearing right and you cannot add grease to it unless you tore the bearing apart but then how are you going to put it back together this is 25 years of being a diesel mechanic and 5 years of it was being an auto mechanic and working on diesel trucks working on medium duty trucks light duty trucks and cars this is funny whoever believes this also believes in the tooth fairy thanks for sharing this
You should work a few more years then it is the same cavity on those style bearings , the tone ring and bearings share , grease WIll get to the bearings
Bs. The bearing are sealed double rollers, and that grease is not getting into the bearing ....just filling the notches in the tone ring. Who thinks the tone ring is part of the roller system ?
That doesn't grease any bearings. It doesn't grease any seals. You're just getting grease on the reluctant ring That sends information to the p c m telling it that the wheel is spinning
Buddy are a mechanic but in my knowledge all bearing are sealed on both side even u put bearing separate and hub sperate u understand so please ? one u showing hub is press on bearing on hub most of them are sealed
Well it may help stop the Abs speed sensor whatever ring from rusting maybe but that grease in an open area will be a dirt and sand magnet that might not be good and as well that is still a sealed bearing so you may as well grease your big toe because it's still not going to touch that bearing. 😊
its not a sealed berring it is open on inside , just the exterior is sealed , you have no understating how this type of unit berring is designed , there will be no dirt getting in there
The bearings have seals on inside also; so grease is not likely to get into the rollers,however, if hole is filled with heavy oil it will eventually weep past that seal and mix with the factory grease and keep it soft and flowing.
That grease is doing nothing for the bearing but it is gumming up the tone ring and speed sensor area. The bearing has a seal back there. The grease is outside the seal.
How are you going to get grease inside of a bearing that's already sealed unless you drill a hole in the bearing housing is the only way quit lying people
Are you lubricating the bearing or making a shield of grease to protect the bearing for a short while? To me it’s still sealed and applying there doesn’t grease past the shields but I can see it as being a barrier from water and dirt. I have never tried this cause I can’t even grease a sealed wheel bearing assembly off the car without removing the metal shield’s and bending them. I feel centrifugal force from bearings pushes the grease outward and can’t see how the grease applied on surface would make into the bearings. I would be concerned the sensor would mis read after all that grease becomes contaminated. I’m not hating brother and good video just trying to understand.
It is the same cavity the grease will reach the bearing , if you look in abs hole the tone ring is full of grease , I add some every time I have rotors off especially if it’s an aftermarket bearing cause they cheap out on the grease and imo there isn’t enough in there when new , it WILL NOT. Affect yer abs reading or cause a code or light
@Tomsfoolery. Did it on a brand new 2024 ridgeline (not a truck I'm very aware 😂) but I removed the wheel speed sensor and no grease... so I don't believe you in the slightest. Also per honda they say absolutely nowhere that I have found to add grease anywhere. Now that could be different between manufacturers but last I remember the speed sensor needs to read the tone ring and it might be difficult with grease in the way
If the tone ring is encased or enclosed with the bearing it is totally fine to do, I've been doing it for years. you don't want to go overboard and you want to use the correct type of grease but if you remove the abs sensor and look down in that hole and see grease then it will be completely fine to add a little more. I like to give it a quite a few pumps then before I put the sensor back in I will use q-tips and spin the hub and clean off the tone ring so the sensor has a clean clear reading.
The only issue I was thinking about is the sensor not reading correctly. But hey, if it reads grease as air space then have at it. I just figured the grease would read as a solid surface and affect the pulse from the ring. Not saying I can't be wrong. That's why I said "I don't know if you should".
you can see the actually roller bearings when you look in the hole at an angle stop the madness , they are right there lol on both sides of the tone ring
I’ve been working on cars for many years. It’s a good idea to clean these areas as you can get ABS codes from corrosion but I’m not sure that you wouldn’t get intermittent ABS codes from overgreasing spot that supposed to be somewhat dry
the tone ring was full of grease from the factory , it doesn't matter if hub is 1/4 full 1/2 full or 3/4 full of grease , there will always be the same amount of grease in the few thou gap between the sensor and tone ring , it does not throw codes
I've been doing this ever since trucks started having anti lock brakes. I thought everyone knew this trick.
Apparently not! Lol!
lol they think they know things but don't , owned same 2 dodge cummins for the last 25 years and both have same berrings but the 98 doesn't have front ABS like the 02 so no hole drives me nuts lol , so I bought lifetime ones and just change out them and axle u joints and brakes every 4 years or so .@@Tomsfoolery.
I just went oh damn didn't know that. Then thought oh yeah I don't have a speed sensor.
Thanks for sharing
I have bought a few of them in the past but none of my older ones have a speed sensor. Now my new one does, so a good tip there.
Sealed unit bearing 😅😂 That tone ring is lubed af.
Generally clean out to bore and spin cleaning most off of and around the tone ring.
Now we found the guy that invented the muffler bearing .
C/S: ABS light on and traction control keeps kicking in after you guys replaced me bearings
Next is “limp mode”, where your trans does not shift out of 2nd gear.
They probably used the wrong bearing or possibly installed it backwards some of them have a magnet on one end
Make sure the ABS wire is plugged into its "electrical" connector and isn't loose, shorting.
You are a fling idiot
I see you too have worked on this specific issue.
1 damned time I did that shit. 1 time.
It wont see the tonenring.
Random ABS activation ensues.
Codes will be c0265/c0222c0232, erratic speed sensor, abs unit not reading right, just all sorts of whack shit.
If you did PACK THE TONE RING WITH GREASE...
Well
That sucks, its a right pain to clean out
But before you buy new sensors and abs units and bearings and shit
Clear every last tiny memory of the grease out of there. There is no exit hole for the carb clean or grease to come out.
So you've done funked your ish all the way up?
Clear the rest of the day.
Gather the trinity of old toothbrushes, carb cleaner and light the shrine to mechanical gods, the sulfide used gear oil attracts the spirits of old mechanics, they will cheer you on by spite and ebentually when youve busted enough knuckles and gotten carb cleaner innall the cuts several times, you might be judged as worthy to re-install the bearing WITHOUT GREASING THE TONE RING, and youll be dialed.
Freshly red faced from the irritation that comes only from scewin yourself over on a repair.
It is the way.
Go forth and warn the younguns if you see them about to make the same mistake. It is our penance. 😂
Please do a part 2 and remove the wheel bearing and show where/how the grease goes into the bearing
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. If grease goes in, it's gotta come out. Also, excessive grease isn't good.
Do things in this order
Google dodge ram unit Bering cross section view
Hit images
And see for yourself
Your not purging whole bearing just adding a bit at a time every year or so to keep it lubed , they don’t come with enough grease in them from factory
@@TheCaperfishI think you're missing his point. He wants to see how you guys think the grease is actually getting to the bearing. Because it's not. That sensor hole doesn't get you access to the bearings, just the tone ring. Which doesn't need grease - there is no benefit to having grease in that area, but there are negatives...
You are missing the point , You can actually see the inner and outer berrings on each side of the tone ring if you look in hole on an angle lol stop it , they are right there in same cavity , the only seals are on the outsides of the assembly
That doesn't go to wheel bearing,bearing is sealed
wrong it is the same cavity
Agreed that is likely a double roller and that hole goes to the outside of the race.
all 32 of was with thumbs up google (dodge ram unit bearing cut away view ) and hit images you will find what you have been missing lol took me all of 10 seconds
It most definitely does and will push the old grease out of the seal if you keep pumping. That's actually how I do it until the dirty discolored grease is gone.
You really shouldn't put grease on a tone ring. Chevy has had issues in the past with failing wheel bearing seals allowing grease to get all over the tone ring, causing ABS faults. The repair is to clean the tone ring with solvent and blow it out with compressed air. I've had to do this dozens of times.
This is a joke video I think…. Nobody can be that stupid.
Common sense would tell you not to pack a speed sensor with grease. Common sense in not common.
I thought the same...shouldn't spray lube either. But good thought though
@@anon556 common sense would tell you the speed sensor is plastic and you can't pack with grease. you obv dont know what a speed sensor is lad
lol the tone ring is full of grease from factory lol its not gona affect anything , the grease will move off the ring and get into bearings when wheel spins and heats up a bit , stop the foolishness
So glad all the comments said what i came here to say… don’t do this!!
Ya don’t know wha yas are missing
So what do you do about the ABS light and the false activation?
that doesn't happen so not a concern , tone ring had grease on it the day it came out of the womb
Read my comment....could not get rid of the bogus ABS horseshit, so I got rid of ABS. A good driver does NOT need ABS.
@@jeffferguson4632 wrong
@@jeffferguson4632bro. Go read. ABS is invaluable.
This is the definition of a UA-cam mechanic🤯😂😂
Lmao, he just put a small circle lf grease on the outer bearing race and made a mess for next time
i always find that a mechanic with a lift telling us this is easy maintenance is the biggest bull shit lie ever told
I can guarantee the abs sensor has been our recently. They dont come out that easy 😂
ikr they usually break
@@xChromerSatanasx yep. And its fucking frustrating innit. Then you have to remove the bearing just to get the rest out 🤣😡
Never😮
The tone ring runs on the outer face of the bearing not inside, do not add grease to the tone ring, the grease will attract dirt and dirt is Farris, this will change the voltage generated and the ecm/abs module uses the voltage to know how fast the wheel is moving, all critical systems in a vehicle use this information directly or indirectly.
the tone ring is literally touching the bearing cages it sits in-between them , how would dirt ever get on the tone ring , the tone ring is covered in the same grease as the berrings from the factory
@@TheCaperfish the tone ring does not sit in between the bearing races, hub bearings use conical bearings that are in a sealed housing, the tone ring sits on the outside face of the seal cover, there is no such thing as a “wet” tone ring in a hub bearing.
@@stephan4490 google dodge unit bearing cross cut view
hit images
reply with an apology
thanks
@@stephan4490 lol they are covered in grease from the factory , the same grease that is on bearings , stop it and do some research
@@TheCaperfish you do not know what you are talking about, google could be your friend to not look ignorant so please do your research before posting comments that you have no knowledge of.
The reason they are sealed is that contrary to popular belief you can over lubricate bearings and shorten bearing life, which most tend to do, also excessive preloaded that constantly seems to be applied also shortens bearing life, take those 2 out of the equation and sealed wheel bearing life is wayyyyy beyond what was achieved with traditional serviced bearings !
I used valve grinding compound. We have lots of salt, it keeps the bearings rust fre and lapped in.
The sensor measures the gaps between the reluctor ring and it measures the time in between each Gap in that reluctor ring so if there's no Gap in The Reluctor ring you're going to get a ABS code and light.
If you filled the gaps with metal, you would be correct. Grease is not magnetic so you’re incredibly wrong. This isn’t something I just thought up. I have been doing this for 191,000 miles. Never an ABS issue.
lol, I hope your not a mechanic for a living greasing the outside of a sealed bearing 😂😂
It is not sealed on the inside just the outside , the roller bearings are right there when you look in the hole
LOL…
Be careful who you let work on your vehicle. 😂
in the history of wiggling out of place has that never worked for me. usually involved a drill and a sheet rock screw to pull out sensor lol.
I have a 04 ram with this exactly set up and you guys want to know what happened after doing this?? My bearing last almost 160k miles no kidding, in fact after installed free hub spindles the bearings were in good condition I just replace them to have locking hubs and get rid off of the lousy doge 4x4 system
Maybe that works on wheel hubs. I work on lightrail trains and I can tell you that grease on THOSE tone wheels is counterproductive.
they are covered in grease from the factory lol it will not affect anything , grease will not block a magnetic signal
@@TheCaperfish good to know. But in a lightrail train situation, the grease captures metallic dust from the rails and steel tires, that does cause issues.
The car situation… I can see how that would be different.
@@matthewdorsett9446 agreed , the amount of metal dust would play a part in your situation , here though if there is that much wear metal in the grease to cause a problem that would mean the bearing is toast anyway , it would of fell off truck first if they were wore that bad lol
If you're a tech in Minnesota, you can wiggle that sensor all day until it breaks off 😊 then pick out the broken pieces & replace the sensor
The bad thing about this on 4x4 SuperDuty... the axle rides on a little needle bearing inside.. So even though this keeps the main bearings alive, the little needle bearing goes bad and then wears a groove around the outer shafts. I don't know if they have changed it since then, but that's how it is on my 2002 F350
correct. I replace both mine every 100k. 99 and 02 sd.
This is a RAM
@@mattbrown9484 Yes.. but the Ford SD still has a similar "hub" style main bearing like this, for the wheel. but like I said: if you do this "trick" to a SD, you still have the pesky little needle bearing that free spins around the shaft-- that likes to fail. In other words: if you do this on a SD and ignore the needle bearing, it's not gonna turn out well for your 4x4 shafts.
@@oregonfordguy9812 My wheels are noisy.. I'm sure my needle bearings have eaten half way through the shaft by now. lol.. I wouldn't expect any less at 240k miles.
@@calholli - true. But the did say wheel bearings.
Thank you to all the people that informed others not to do this, that speed sensor relies on reading the tone ring inside the hole he put the grease into, which won't work to well with all that grease in there. This will affect your abs and throw codes, and good luck getting that grease out without having to replace the hub.
lol the tone ring was full of grease from the factory , it doesn't matter if hub is 1/4 full 1/2 full or 3/4 full of grease , there will always be the same amount of grease in the few thou gap between the sensor and tone ring , it does not throw codes stop it
To get those out in the north east you have to break em.. they never just pry out, they snap off😂
This video is a joke right
Thought that was an abs sensor..
It’s a wheel speed sensor that tells the ABS system what rotational speed the tire is spinning. On this truck, each front tire has them and there’s one on the rear differential for the rear tires. Newer trucks have individual ones for each rear tire as well as the fronts.
@Tomsfoolery. I am a professional tech and have been for almost 20 years now.... I really truly hope this is a parody video.. false information like this is what I hate most. when I hear customers say "I did it myself, saw a video online", I know it's going to be a pain to fix. Some of your videos have decent information too that's why I am not sure if you really think that's how a bearing works....
Another "quick tip"...don't try this with your mid-to-late 90's Chevy pickups, as grease piling on this wheel speed sensor can trip the ABS at low speeds. This will inhibit your ability to brake normally.
😂😂😂he obviously doesn’t understand what happens to vehicles in the upper Midwest, that speed sensor will never just wiggle out like that, unless said vehicle is new. But thanks for the tip.
Like others have said my truck bearing are sealed the only place that grease is going is everywhere but the bearing
Plz dont post videos like this.. its pointless.. the bearings r sealed units.... ur just globbin ur tone ring...
Those sealed hub bearings are designed to be non-serviceable. If you want them to last to at least their advertised lifetime, make sure they are properly installed. Most have a set torque rating for the axle nut. Too loose or too tight and you shorten the life of that hub. Also, make sure the spindle where that hub goes is clean and free of debris/rust to prevent deformation of the hub. Simple, do it right the first time and you won’t have to do it over.
He pulled up that impala wheel hub and I instantly knew it was like the one off of my car, then he says it, a Chevy impala. It's not a bad thing, it's not hard to change on an impala as long as it's not rusted through like any vehicle could get. There are ways to service it though.
because removing, cleaning inspecting and repacking axle bearings just worked to well. We can't be trusted with that these days.
This has got to be a satirical video. How in the hell could you possibly? Nevermind, im not surprised by people doong anything like this anymore.
False,do not do this, doesn't do a thing,the hub's are sealed,sealed!! Hub's wear out, replace. Death wish.
Don’t try this, more than likely the sensor will not come out due to the o-ring hanging up on the rust and dirt. Ones you break the sensor then you’re have a problem.
I did this once and my friend called me a moron ... guess who wheel bearing went and who's is still going at 260k
I prefer to replace the whole strut assembly, everything is new and won't have any come backs.
Shit
I just replaced 3 out of on my subaru...
If i knew this idve greased tgem 1x a year
this doesnt lube the bearing but it MIGHT help keep water from washing the grease out.
Your speed sensor reads the tone ring, putting grease in there will F up the traction control because it can’t read the wheel speed.
Thanks I wish I had known this 30 years ago. Changing these bearing hubs is a major job pounding and cracking loose those three bolts.
I wonder why the mechanics don't do this. It's all part of the Auto parts scam. Thanks
When cleaning is outta the question, grease the f*#k outta it. Got it
Umm ok lol. So that's not a sealed bearing on the other side of tone ting. Right lol lol you just made a dirt collector
Here is why folk have no faith in mechanics. He also forgot the bluetooth dust shield mod.
Tell someone this if you want to get sued for an accident caused by a failed VSC system.
This message to you from your friendly auto dealer service department.
That not how that works.. you greased the tone ring not the bearing
wrong it is the same cavity
@@TheCaperfishtell me you’ve never worked on cars without telling me. The bearing is sealed and is not accessible from the tome ring port.
For the love of god people These type of bearings are not the same as what you think lol I even cut one cross section, wish I could post a pic on here to show all you fools , you just keep working on yer bicycles and think ya know what’s goin on ya gearbox
you can see the actually roller bearings when you look in the hole at an angle stop the madness , they are right there lol on both sides of the tone ring foo
Crickets now eh
good
You definitely dont live in upstate Ny you ain't pulling a speed censor out unless its brand new
Gotta watch how u do that bc the greese could mess with the speed sensor. Not ALL the time but sum times it can
Does Ford have those speed sensors I have an expedition 1998 just curious
Do you have any advice on doing the rear bearings that share the single wss? Thanks.
WTF!!!! Never... ever...evvvver let this dude touch your vehicle. Completely wrong, unless you want abs problems.
lol the tone ring is covered in grease from the factory , you better give them a call at dodge and tell em it aint gona work
Maybe I could get the bolt out, but the speed sensor is permanently attached😂
I don’t think this guy has ever installed a wheel bearing assembly 😅
You only greased the tone ring. Bearing is sealed. Get ready for abs codes.
I see the misinformation machine is still going strong. This is what happens when there’s no fact checking involved. SEALED bearing. See? It’s right there in the name. Also, do you even know that’s the correct grease?? If you gonna do it wrong, at least do it with the correct supplies. No one likes a halfassed halfasser.
So there are 3 camps here one with people that do it , , one with people that just don't think its a good idea , to add grease to the bearing and this fine its their own opinion and THEN there is another group that think the grease can''t get to the bearing by pumping in that hole , they are Wrong that is a FACT , but are too stupid to realize it and do some research lol ,they come on here and don't have a clue and yapping . . What camp are you in ?
No way that sensor wriggled free that easy. I’m callin BS
Unless you have tapered roller bearings which you would be showing the bearings and the bearing race themselves You're not lubricating anything The tone rings are completely outside on purpose they have to be on the outside they can't have anything on them they must be clean and dry they make an electromagnetic field with that magnet putting anything else can actually fuck up the signal and make the vehicle go stupid or just start yelling low tire like my grandmother's 2002 Buick century that was before the days of TPMS
Like I said unless you're taking tapered roller bearings apart cleaning them checking them and putting them back and you're packing them with new grease you're not doing anything All the other bearings out there that you buy at a major parts store for most cars and even some pickup trucks even Jeeps are sealed units there's no zerk fitting AKA Grease nipple for a grease gun there's nothing that you can do
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lube up your brake rotor surfaces with grease so they don't heat up?
Okay genius where's your dust shield?
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Left the chat 😅🤣😂
Jesus Christ.....
Don't do this people. Or actually do. And then bring your truck to me and I will replace your unit bearings when they inevitably go to shit a couple weeks later.
a sensor ring being greased will do nothing for you except problems eventually. Like premature sensor wear. No one recommends this. It also looks like a bolt on hub. They should not require replacement gor a long time.
wrong , the tone ring is full of grease from the factory and the inner and outer bearing sit right next to it
how would grease cause sensor wear anyway ? lol
'They should not require replacement gor a long time." LOL you obviously never had a dodge with aftermarket Chinese unit berrings before
You do know this is a sealed bearing right and you cannot add grease to it unless you tore the bearing apart but then how are you going to put it back together this is 25 years of being a diesel mechanic and 5 years of it was being an auto mechanic and working on diesel trucks working on medium duty trucks light duty trucks and cars this is funny whoever believes this also believes in the tooth fairy thanks for sharing this
You should work a few more years then it is the same cavity on those style bearings , the tone ring and bearings share , grease WIll get to the bearings
I am skeptical on this one...is a SEALED BEARING?
They are called sealed bearings all you are doing is coating the tone ring
Honestly zero benefit!! Tone ring is a mile away from bearing. Hall-effect sensing needs clean un-obstructed contact!!!
lol you can see the berrings and the tone ring is actually touching the bearing cages of both inner and outer bearing lol
Bs. The bearing are sealed double rollers, and that grease is not getting into the bearing ....just filling the notches in the tone ring. Who thinks the tone ring is part of the roller system ?
if you look in the hole you can actually see the roller bearings so congratulations you are # 192 of people that are incorrect
That doesn't grease any bearings. It doesn't grease any seals. You're just getting grease on the reluctant ring That sends information to the p c m telling it that the wheel is spinning
wrong , the tone ring is full of grease from the factory and the inner and outer bearing sit right next to it
Buddy are a mechanic but in my knowledge all bearing are sealed on both side even u put bearing separate and hub sperate u understand so please ? one u showing hub is press on bearing on hub most of them are sealed
These style are sealed on outer sides the bearings and tone rink are in the same open cavity in the middle
Well it may help stop the Abs speed sensor whatever ring from rusting maybe but that grease in an open area will be a dirt and sand magnet that might not be good and as well that is still a sealed bearing so you may as well grease your big toe because it's still not going to touch that bearing. 😊
its not a sealed berring it is open on inside , just the exterior is sealed , you have no understating how this type of unit berring is designed , there will be no dirt getting in there
Nobody ever says use brake cleaner get yourself a trump lawyer
The bearings have seals on inside also; so grease is not likely to get into the rollers,however, if hole is filled with heavy oil it will eventually weep past that seal and mix with the factory grease and keep it soft and flowing.
no seals on inside just outside of unit assembly
I press the new hub apart and drill a hole and add a grease fitting
That grease is doing nothing for the bearing but it is gumming up the tone ring and speed sensor area. The bearing has a seal back there. The grease is outside the seal.
If you look in the hole you can see the bearings on each side of the tone ring , they are right there , stop it
How are you going to get grease inside of a bearing that's already sealed unless you drill a hole in the bearing housing is the only way quit lying people
It’s the same cavity in those style of bearings, the grease Will get to bearings
Oh my f’ing god no! Please don’t actually do this 😂😅
Are you lubricating the bearing or making a shield of grease to protect the bearing for a short while? To me it’s still sealed and applying there doesn’t grease past the shields but I can see it as being a barrier from water and dirt. I have never tried this cause I can’t even grease a sealed wheel bearing assembly off the car without removing the metal shield’s and bending them. I feel centrifugal force from bearings pushes the grease outward and can’t see how the grease applied on surface would make into the bearings. I would be concerned the sensor would mis read after all that grease becomes contaminated. I’m not hating brother and good video just trying to understand.
It is the same cavity the grease will reach the bearing , if you look in abs hole the tone ring is full of grease , I add some every time I have rotors off especially if it’s an aftermarket bearing cause they cheap out on the grease and imo there isn’t enough in there when new , it WILL NOT. Affect yer abs reading or cause a code or light
How did you keep a straight face thru this whole thing?
Or, maybe the manufacturer should install them thongs known as grease gun fittings!!!!
Chevy/ gmc trucks the speed sensor goes out all the time
You cant do that it will affect the sensor whay bullbshit
I dont think grease is getting into actual bearing surface since its sealed. All your doing is lubricating the tone ring
if you look in the hole you can actually see the roller bearings so congratulations you are # 193 of the people that are incorrect
I don't know if you should be filling in the tone ring like that 🤔
Pull a speed sensor out of a hub assembly and look into the hole. It’s filled with grease.
@Tomsfoolery. Did it on a brand new 2024 ridgeline (not a truck I'm very aware 😂) but I removed the wheel speed sensor and no grease... so I don't believe you in the slightest. Also per honda they say absolutely nowhere that I have found to add grease anywhere. Now that could be different between manufacturers but last I remember the speed sensor needs to read the tone ring and it might be difficult with grease in the way
If the tone ring is encased or enclosed with the bearing it is totally fine to do, I've been doing it for years. you don't want to go overboard and you want to use the correct type of grease but if you remove the abs sensor and look down in that hole and see grease then it will be completely fine to add a little more. I like to give it a quite a few pumps then before I put the sensor back in I will use q-tips and spin the hub and clean off the tone ring so the sensor has a clean clear reading.
The only issue I was thinking about is the sensor not reading correctly. But hey, if it reads grease as air space then have at it. I just figured the grease would read as a solid surface and affect the pulse from the ring. Not saying I can't be wrong. That's why I said "I don't know if you should".
@@Tomsfoolery.so smash it so full of grease that it gets all over the sensor... yeah ok bud.
This guy really needs work! Hope nobody listens
So you are adding grease to an open cavity? Because almost all those bearings are sealed. Does nothing.
there are not sealed on inside just on exterior of hub
Love the lack of real information and the waste of grease. Wheel hub bearings are sealed.
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All this does is attract dirt and grime to the tone ring which could cause the sensor to not read properly.
the tone ring is sealed in same cavity with bearings no dirt can enter
Did this “tip” make it to a customer states video yet???
I sure hope this video is a joke that's not how that works
U putting grease in the tone ring does nothing for the bearing lol some ppl just don’t understand
Wheel bearing are sealed
you can see the actually roller bearings when you look in the hole at an angle stop the madness , they are right there lol on both sides of the tone ring
Hes been on same set for over 25 years. Pay attention.
You’ll get an ABS light flickering this way. DO NOT DO THIS
no you won't been doing it for 25 years on 3 different trucks , stop it , the tone ring and sensor were full of grease from the factory
Thank you my brother I will keep that in my tool y
I’ve been working on cars for many years. It’s a good idea to clean these areas as you can get ABS codes from corrosion but I’m not sure that you wouldn’t get intermittent ABS codes from overgreasing spot that supposed to be somewhat dry
the tone ring was full of grease from the factory , it doesn't matter if hub is 1/4 full 1/2 full or 3/4 full of grease , there will always be the same amount of grease in the few thou gap between the sensor and tone ring , it does not throw codes
Can you drill a hole and put a zerk fitting in?
Ohhh no he just greased a oil bath bearing....
I think you need to remove the bearing and you will see that greese does nothing
I think you need to google Dodge Ram unit berring cross section and hit images