True Beginner: Basic Sandpaper Sharpening

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  • Learn the cheapest and simplest beginner method for sharpening.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 360

  • @kchek
    @kchek 4 роки тому +64

    How about a video where ya take nate to go shopping for tools as a beginner. Say $100 worth :)

  • @2dividedby3equals666
    @2dividedby3equals666 4 роки тому +87

    I'm loving these videos with Nate. It's really interesting to see as he learns and get actual results. Thanks you both for the awesome video!!

  • @iakkatz128
    @iakkatz128 4 роки тому +81

    In over 40 yrs. of woodworking this was one of the easiest and best understood sharpening lesson I've seen. Love how you simplify the most convoluted (to some) paths. Keep them coming.

  • @RodrigoFernandez-td9uk
    @RodrigoFernandez-td9uk Рік тому +6

    Last Saturday my wife found 16 (sixteen) dresses for a few cents. She was so happy that she didn't notice that I was using the glass coffee table as flat surface for sharpening my plane.

  • @SQWEKERZ
    @SQWEKERZ 4 роки тому +20

    "I won't touch it again for the rest of the video"
    LIES! DAMNED LIES!

  • @danielparrott4286
    @danielparrott4286 4 роки тому +28

    Am I the only one who would love these more than once a month?! I have found these two so far in this series to be EXTREMELY useful and super helpful.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  4 роки тому +7

      Share these on social. If we get more views, we'll do more!

    • @james123oo
      @james123oo 3 роки тому +1

      Me 3

  • @Freakcent
    @Freakcent 4 роки тому +32

    Kudos for Nate for acting so natural, while it was scripted!! :)
    P.S. You lied! at 0:49

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  4 роки тому

      What makes you say that?

    • @kshatriya1414
      @kshatriya1414 4 роки тому +2

      Rex Krueger *murdering vibes intensifies*

    • @drstefankrank
      @drstefankrank 4 роки тому +8

      @@RexKrueger You said you are not going to touch it any more, but you did later. Only to illustrate, not to work at it, but still touched. :)

    • @AB-nv5ti
      @AB-nv5ti 4 роки тому +3

      I noticed that too. I knew someone would say something. After all, this is the internet. Lol!

    • @octavmandru9219
      @octavmandru9219 4 роки тому

      Nope, the blade had fresh mint flavored rust on. Check a few frames before

  • @davidgagnon2849
    @davidgagnon2849 4 роки тому +2

    With all the talk of grits on the front end of the video, I had to pause the video, go to the kitchen, and cook up a mess of grits. Mmmmmmmmm.

  • @rallen7660
    @rallen7660 4 роки тому +8

    I've read that original article for "Scary Sharp" and it's hilarious. Same techniques as what Rex shows, but maybe as written by Tim Allen.

  • @cliffordduhh45
    @cliffordduhh45 4 роки тому +18

    I’m just about to start this exact process this weekend for the first time. Looking forward to this, Rex!

  • @bigbearnelson
    @bigbearnelson 4 роки тому +9

    I've gone through so much sandpaper trying to fix cheap plane irons and chisels but getting curled shavings on oak end grain is more than worth it. I'm glad you made a video on this!

  • @joeseabert8391
    @joeseabert8391 4 роки тому +5

    Very good information. When you do the video for the stones, make sure to cover dressing the stone. I have several stones and some I even got from my grandfather. They are all messed up and really not flat.

  • @jllaine
    @jllaine 4 роки тому +5

    "This would cut cleanly through an artery?" (bwahaha). can't wait for the next guest appearance!

  • @greenpedal370
    @greenpedal370 4 роки тому +1

    Starting with a sheet of glass or MDF and wet and dry is the best way to learn the basis without messing up stones. Additionally I would bin the jig. Learn to do it freehand from the start, that's what cheap chisels are for.

  • @MrPhucktard
    @MrPhucktard 3 роки тому +5

    Excellent instruction video for this newbie. You are not the first one I've seen say "I glued the sandpaper...," but so far nobody ever says what glue they used and how to get it off the glass when the sandpaper wears out and needs to be changed. Can you give us a hint?

  • @davidgagnon2849
    @davidgagnon2849 4 роки тому +6

    I hope this series with Nate continues. No one else is making teaching videos like this, and they are very effective. Kudos to you, Rex!

  • @PurdueJHanna
    @PurdueJHanna 4 роки тому +2

    I just grabbed a 10 sheet (9" x 11") pack of wet / dry 220, 500, 1000, & 1200 grit paper at Harbor Freight for 4 bucks. I hope it's good enough to try this method.

  • @JanSzymonGoowacz
    @JanSzymonGoowacz 4 роки тому +3

    By years sharpen on sandpapier i spend so many cash on this that would be enough for no one set of stones. In the end I boght „like a Tormek” grainder by RecordPawer brand and adlast I have time for job, not only sharp ;)
    Sandpaper is for 30 cents. To scharp chisel nead no less then 10 piece (from 150-4000) often paper is cut and tattered, add 2-3 more piece. Is 4$ 10 chisels, 5 planes, few knives, axes etc... 80$. Grainder cost me 180$. Stone will survive 1-3 years. Never more sandpapier sharpening ;)

  • @heylookitssmitty4463
    @heylookitssmitty4463 4 роки тому +7

    Get home from work...
    Get changed for work around the house...
    Oh Hell, new Rex video...
    Work around the house can wait...

  • @XavierDesroches
    @XavierDesroches 3 роки тому +1

    I can't find the "next video in a month" in the total beginner's playlist. Is it the one like sharpening for cheapskate?
    Edit: Found it. The title is "Fast freehand sharpening: no jigs, no guides, no sandpaper."

  • @ericburres2875
    @ericburres2875 4 роки тому +4

    Absolutely terrific education with a great relaxed style and sense of humor. I'm hooked. (Darn, now I gotta get rid of that burr!) Keep up the stellar work.

  • @kpn3nc
    @kpn3nc 4 роки тому +1

    Instead of going and spending the 12 or 15 bucks what one could do is visit their local auto body shop (especially if you've ever had a vehicle worked on by the shop) and ask them to buy a couple 1000 and 1500 sheets (they usually have 12x12s, so you could get a few squares out of the one sheet) and they might sell them to you at cost, which is about a dollar per sheet considering the fact that they go through so many. Or if you're friendly with the painter he might just give you a sheet or two. They also only use the paper for one car usually, so they toss them after they're done. you could ask him to fish them out of the trash.

  • @vane5736
    @vane5736 4 роки тому +1

    Help guys. I have a flea market plane iron. I flattened the back and used a honing guide on some 150 grit sandpaper to prepare the iron for honing. I was doing that and used two sheets of sand paper and for the life of me can't get a burr on the back. I thought ok maybe I just can't see it but after running it on my 400 grit water stone for a few minutes, still no burr. They take off material but there is no burr on the back and the iron doesn't feel any sharper.

  • @screamsofthedead
    @screamsofthedead 4 роки тому +6

    Rex, you're a really good teacher! This was very well explained and easy to understand.

  • @thendaman
    @thendaman 4 роки тому +1

    Rex, have you looked at Brent Beach's sharpening method? (www3.telus.net/BrentBeach/Sharpen/index.html). I'm completely new and haven't used anything else, but I like the idea of it, the main difference to what you've done here is that you add shims every time you go up a level of grit so that you're honing a very small area at very fine grits (and it does increase the bevel angle slightly near the tip).

  • @silva69ers
    @silva69ers 4 роки тому +1

    Can you Please make dovetail cutting guide similar to the Katz mosus? I can't justify the $75 to buy the Katz mosus piece of plastic and ship to Australia

  • @tatoghe
    @tatoghe 8 місяців тому +1

    Hello Rex, what do you use to glue the sandpaper to that glass? It obviously has to be something that comes off easily without a residue, otherwise you'd have to buy a new piece of glass each time you change the sandpaper too, isn't it right?

  • @Mr986Willis
    @Mr986Willis 2 роки тому +1

    I disagree about the economics of the scary sharp system I've been using the same strips of abrasive for about 6 months. I've sharpened all my chissels and plane irons repeatedly. Now I spent a little more and bought the abrasives from the UK company that uses the scary sharp brand name I think the main difference is that it sticks to the glass better and I use the 2 wheeled honing guide they recommend using that in conjunction with honing oil and only ever pulling the blade backwards the abrasive lasts a long time.
    To sharpen with water stones or oil stones you will also need a diamond stone to flatten the surface of the stone periodically do these methods are pretty expensive.

  • @agamingskipper1121
    @agamingskipper1121 3 роки тому +3

    Is this series still going, was inspired to get into woodworking from Rex's videos.

  • @joelwaite7965
    @joelwaite7965 4 роки тому +3

    Rex, I had a question about some of your earlier videos. I was watching your videos about planes trying to find the best budget plane but I don’t see a conclusion to that, so my question is what would your budget recommendation be? I’m just starting out in woodworking and loving your videos so far thank you for all the great content!

  • @georgesweap7
    @georgesweap7 4 роки тому +4

    Nice tutorial on sharpening! Can’t wait until next month on sharpening with stones!

  • @MabruBlack
    @MabruBlack 4 роки тому +3

    I really like these videos with Nate! So much information that’s really well explained for newbies and it’s so helpful... I hope that once this quarantine mess is over you both can make more videos together!

  • @REAP3RVIKING
    @REAP3RVIKING 4 роки тому +2

    Hello Rex I had a question, how long does it take to get the burr on each grit, I tried for like 20 minutes on the first of the fine grits and I never really felt it

  • @DrIngo1980
    @DrIngo1980 4 роки тому +2

    Damn. I watched a bunch (let's say 100, but I honestly do not remember the number) of videos about sharpening chisels, plane blades or kitchen knives so far in my life. But this was really the first one that drove home the important points in a well thought out manner.
    Thank you!
    I really like your style and your videos!
    So, thank you. And thank you Nate for sitting in and playing the clueless new woodworker!
    Speaking of Nate, Rex, you really should start and honor him in your video descriptions as well! He is kinda missing in this video's description. It's not fair to him to not mention his name in the video description as your co-star (or whatever nomenclature you'd prefer) now, is it?
    Anyway, love the video nonetheless. Great job!

  • @danliebster9894
    @danliebster9894 3 роки тому +1

    Did you change the angle between grinding and honing? This was not mentioned in the video.

  • @alecfrancis2084
    @alecfrancis2084 4 роки тому +2

    THANKYOU! For the first time ever I’ve managed to take beautiful full with shavings! Took me a few goes to get it but I got there!

  • @ejk8491
    @ejk8491 4 роки тому +4

    Once the paper is glued down, how do you remove it so as to reuse the glass?

    • @septegram
      @septegram 4 роки тому +1

      Had the same question.

    • @SymbiosisDenizen
      @SymbiosisDenizen 4 роки тому +2

      I just scrap the glue off with a razor blade...super 77 or similar spray adhesive seem to have no problem. Also alcohol/acetone works well too

    • @BohumirZamecnik
      @BohumirZamecnik 4 роки тому

      Yes, that's also my question. I tried once to use a spray glue on glass and it was very hard to get the sandpaper off (with acetone, toluene, IPA, thin knife). Since then I put the paper on the workbench, hold it by hand and use no water, which is all bad... Maybe I should find a different glue or possibly use some thin double sided tape.

    • @aussiewanderer6304
      @aussiewanderer6304 4 роки тому

      I've seen people use hot glue gun glue, but not sure how it goes with glass.

    • @andrewpowell9518
      @andrewpowell9518 4 роки тому

      If you don’t want to glue you can also clamp it down.

  • @toddtremeer7057
    @toddtremeer7057 3 роки тому +2

    Great video showing basic sharpening without demanding we spend a fortune in grinding tools and stones. I'm learning new stuff every day as I've been watching your videos this past month.

  • @animalivaganti360
    @animalivaganti360 4 роки тому +9

    When I read the title I said "oh no, another video about sand paper". I saw the video anyway and I can say that's a very good video about sharpening

  • @wm005
    @wm005 4 роки тому +2

    This is a great addition to your video channel. You have really stepped up your game...

  • @AaronTWas
    @AaronTWas 4 роки тому +1

    For those looking to not jump into the fray of over-priced sharpening systems from using sandpaper - In Paul Sellers recent March 11 blog post he discusses the very inexpensive Chinese diamond stones he switched to from his more expensive EZE-Lap stones. He makes a good case for them, saying that they are going strong after a months use - which is more like a year for the hobbyist woodworker. Also, there are multiple comments on the post from other folks saying that they have been using the same stones for years, and they are still going strong. You could put together a system of 3 of these stones for around $15. It hasn’t arrived yet, but I broke down after reading it and ordered a 1500 grit one on Aliexpress to compliment my Trend combination stone - which is 300/1000 (and I did not purchase until I could get it deeply discounted). I was going to wait until I could get the extra fine DMT Stone, but I’ll see how this one does glued to a piece of plywood. It was less than $5 shipped. Pretty sure they are unbranded - on Aliexpress the description is
    “1 piece Grit Professional Thin Diamond Knife Sharpening Whetstones Polishing Knife Sharpener Plate Grinding Disc Abrasive Stones”
    A mouthful to be sure, but maybe this could help someone else take their sharpening game up a notch from sandpaper without breaking the bank. I probably wouldn’t bat an eye at the suggestion of these stones Otherwise, but when someone like Paul Sellers says that he switched to them and they are doing well for him, then I at least go, “hmmm?”. Thank you for the great content Rex!

  • @CSGraves
    @CSGraves 4 роки тому +1

    While I've read woodworkers who viewed sandpaper as a cheap entry-level
    only solution, & detracting its long term cost effectiveness, I find
    that using it dry, clamped down to a flat surface, I can get a lot of
    use out of it, & not have to worry about it getting warped by water
    or being permanently glued to the surface. You can get a variety of
    grits for less than the cost of a single good water stone or diamond
    plate. I've used primarily sandpapers varying from 40 up to 7000 grit to
    reprofile & sharpen everything from a plane iron ( no jig),
    chisels, knives, hatchets, & even a billhook... the latter had a
    steep recurve, so I took a piece of 2x4 and carved a curve along one
    edge, clamped sandpaper to it, & it roughly conformed to the curve,
    allowing a mirror polish all the way up the blade. I'll supplement that
    with a final touch up on a fine ceramic stone, then strop with 0.1 CBN
    emulsion on a paddle strop. I find myself going through the rougher
    grits and finest grits most often, so buying more of each of those
    extends the time you can get out of the overall setup. Supplement with a
    few fancier options, be they arkansas stones, water stones, diamond
    plates, ceramic, what have you, as you can afford them, makes for a
    pretty versatile setup!

  • @rockdog2584
    @rockdog2584 3 роки тому +1

    I happened to be passing by a place that does custom stone countertops...and Lo and Behold!...they had a 'scrap bin' of off-cut pieces of granite that was open to anyone that wanted to dive in and salvage whatever they could use. Came home with several pieces. Granted...they are smooth on just one side. Great thing about them is that they are HEAVY and don't slide around much. I've glued thin foam padding material on the back side and they now STICK to my work surface really well! You could use that rubber/foam kind of kitchen drawer liner material just as well.
    My one suggestion here would be to put a little dish soap in the water that you wet the sandpaper with, or use something like glass cleaner (Windex). It will help keep the sandpaper from clogging up and, thereby, last much longer.

  • @chrismiller100
    @chrismiller100 4 роки тому +5

    I thought this video was going to be about sharpening sandpaper

  • @PaulScott_
    @PaulScott_ 4 роки тому +1

    You don't necessarily have to buy glass - just keep a look out for discarded aquariums for example. Very thick glass at no cost - mine happens to be from my wife's aquarium that reached the end of its life and now one end of it is my sharpening platform. Thanks for the tip of auto sanding paper!!!!!

  • @thethirdman225
    @thethirdman225 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Rex, would you mind doing something about cheap honing stones fro eBay. I’ve been sharpening things for years but I have never sharpened anything on cheap stones. I’m just corious to know if they’re any good or not.

  • @dennisseemann571
    @dennisseemann571 4 роки тому +2

    absolutely the best sharpening lesson I have ever had, the bur discussion has cleared up a lot of questions, thanks for taking the time to explain the mechanics.

  • @ConflictedSwitch
    @ConflictedSwitch 4 роки тому +5

    0:53 I am not going to touch the iron for the rest of the video.
    4:15 :::Grabs the iron and holds it up to the camera:::

    • @lstanczykRC
      @lstanczykRC 4 роки тому

      I love Nate videos. Great dynamic you guys have

  • @tagomago2178
    @tagomago2178 3 роки тому +1

    Superb Video - I could relate to all the questions asked by the bloke on the left, they were all valid and essential from a beginners stance. Much better than just having an expert talking purely from his own point of view. I felt that this approach helped cover all areas; with the explanations being handled perfectly. Made all the difference and nothing was superfluous - Nice work Chaps & Many Thanks

  • @stanconklin9759
    @stanconklin9759 4 роки тому +1

    I have a Stanley 4.5 and a 5. I can’t get them to plane properly. I extend the blade, it just skips over the work piece. Any thoughts?
    Stan

  • @Motown222
    @Motown222 Рік тому +1

    Thank you, Rex! God. Hundreds of sharpening vids 40 minutes long. So frustrating! You told me all I need to know in 10, and man! I appreciate that!!

  • @kimmonshandtools6849
    @kimmonshandtools6849 4 роки тому +1

    I’m almost ashamed to admit that the accurately cambered iron... has been kicking my butt. I really thought it wouldn’t be much of an issue since I’ve been honing just about everything for decades, even straight razors for the last decade. I put pressure on the outer edges like all the videos show and work my way in and the edge still ends up leaving lines in my work piece. It has gotten a little better but I cant really even see or tell there’s a camber even if I set the bevel with outside pressure and honed with pressure on the outside edges the whole time.. I pretty much still end up with a straight edge and lines in my work. Put a straight edge across it, and it’s still virtually perfectly square with zero camber. I guess I just need to tinker with it and figure it out.

  • @jameshaulenbeek5931
    @jameshaulenbeek5931 4 роки тому +1

    Sand paper is very good for sharpening, but stones are FAR more economical. However, oil and water stones have the problem of also being... consumable.
    While they're a little more money than a typical oil or water stone, ceramic stones and the DMT diamond stones will last a lifetime... for only a little bit more money up front. They also offer the benefit of being able to use them dry, though water can be used to aid in floating off material.
    That said, you can actually contour an oil or water stone to match your perfect smoothing camber...

  • @rockdog2584
    @rockdog2584 3 роки тому +1

    Mr. Krueger?...this was an AWESOME way to show how easy it can be to learn how to use a hand plane. I, myself, have a couple of old planes buried somewhere out in my new garage (I just moved a few months ago) that are probably in need of restoration/tune-up so I can put them to good use. THANK YOU for all of your time and effort into teaching us hosers how to deal with such chores

  • @Sawta
    @Sawta 4 роки тому +1

    This is great! I had a stupid problem early on, but it was easily fixed: When you glue sandpaper to a flattened surface, *ONLY* put glue around the OUTER EDGES; putting glue in the center of the sandpaper will only create ridges for the blade to get caught on, and ruin the paper, and probably mess up the edge you've gotten so far. It sounds obvious now that I made the mistake, but I was on auto-pilot when I was doing this, and assumed getting the sandpaper _super_ secured to the paper was more important; it's not. Overall, it took me about three days to get to the final product, but I can easily shave hair off my arm now! Feels great to finally accomplish some of the basics! :)
    Now onto the much harder task of restoring the hand plane itself. Seriously...there's so much rust on the sole (I think that's the part, the silver part that sits flat on the wood to be planed) is so rusted that the entire thing is basically orange. No silver at all. The cast iron itself is just a bit dusty, but that iron is just...caked...in rust. I can't even tell if it's pitted, but I'm assuming it is. Wish me luck, boys!

  • @a.r.r5673
    @a.r.r5673 4 роки тому +1

    How did you set the angle in the honing guide? How did you determine the projection?
    Thanks! These videos are amazing! I’m waiting for my first set of chisels, saws, and planes to arrive in the mail.

  • @sethmiller1357
    @sethmiller1357 4 роки тому +2

    I find it works well to explain grit progression thus: Imagine you're going to dig a swimming pool sized hole that you need EXACTLY 4 feet deep. What tools would you use to do that job? You might start out with a backhoe because it can move a lot of dirt really quickly. However, it won't have the precision to get you to exactly 4 feet deep. So after the backhoe, you switch to a shovel. It moves dirt more slowly, but allows you more control as you approach 4 feet deep. To get it to that perfect 4 feet deep, you would then switch to a hand trowel to take tiny scoops getting even closer. You might finish with a tablespoon searching for that perfect 4 feet deep.
    Now, you could do the whole thing with a tablespoon, but you'd be crazy to.
    Backhoe = 220 grit
    Shovel = 400 grit
    Hand trowel = 1000 grit.
    Tablespoon = 1500 grit

    • @brunsy1990
      @brunsy1990 3 роки тому +1

      3000 grit baby spoon
      6000 grit a flat splinter

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr 4 роки тому +1

    I wondered when Rex would slice open his pinky finger when pointing out features on the cutting edge. I guess he didn't because no band-aid magically appeared. Also no blood. Good explanation, thanks to the editor/guineapig. PS closed captioning says your web site is "wrecks trigger dot com".

  • @pavelshalman
    @pavelshalman 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Rex much appreciate your videos, thanks. Have a question: what method do you use to attach the sandpaper to the glass? Greets from Austria.

  • @DB-lk5tt
    @DB-lk5tt 4 роки тому +1

    Every week I get to see something interesting about woodworking from Rex. And every Friday night, I’m in the garage working on something new because Rex lit a fire under my...... ..... ..... Bum. Yah, that’s the word we’ll use.

  • @assnapkined9295
    @assnapkined9295 3 роки тому +1

    Wait so for the honing phase, what do you set the projection angle for, do you set it differently than the setup phase? I would think you would want a slightly more dramatic angle on the very tip of the bevel, no?

  • @Kivlor
    @Kivlor 2 роки тому +1

    19:46 thanks for this video. I'm not sold on the "scary sharp" talk either, and I'd love to get a grinder later, but this sounds like a decent and thrifty way to keep my tools sharp until I do. Exactly what I was looking for.

  • @philipgrasso2590
    @philipgrasso2590 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video Rex. Quick question though, do you put anything on the plane/iron/chisel to help prevent future rust after you have it in good working order? My tools are usually just left hanging in my garage and I can go weeks without using them.

    • @TheBearGrylz
      @TheBearGrylz 4 роки тому +1

      Philip Grasso I love WD 40 silicone spray. It’s awesome. Prevents rust. And a honed blade w that coating put on after just slides through wood.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  4 роки тому +2

      A touch of oil (any kind) works great.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic, Rex! Thanks a lot! 😃
    BTW, I just had my first experience with a plane today... And it was a spoke shave!
    I bought it for really cheap from Banggood and it looks to work pretty nicely! 😃

  • @morganahoff2242
    @morganahoff2242 3 роки тому +1

    17:23 Lots of good info in this video. But Rex forgot to tell Nate, after putting all that work into sharpening the iron...never put a plane down on it's blade; always lay it on its side to prevent damaging the sharpened edge.

  • @LopingCSF
    @LopingCSF 3 роки тому +1

    So... were these not popular enough to continue? :(
    Either way, thanks for the two you've got up. I just bought my first hand plane and it's a cheapie. I need to learn everything you taught here and in the previous video. One more thing, should you choose to continue this series, that I need to learn, is truing up the sole of my cheap plane. Out of the box it's burred and less than flat :(

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  3 роки тому +2

      Covid happened, so I'm not letting people in my house right now. We'll do more when we're all vaccinated.

    • @LopingCSF
      @LopingCSF 3 роки тому

      @@RexKrueger Hooray. As for what I mentioned about truing up the sole of my plane, I just found your vid on fixing the cheap amazon plane. It appears to have precisely what I was looking for.
      Thanks again for these vids. While I'm not (at this point) setting out to be a hand tool wood worker, a cheap hand plane that I can get set up properly is a heck of a lot less expensive than a jointer and planer. I appreciate the education.

  • @zoochdjz
    @zoochdjz 4 роки тому +1

    Woodworking is expensive, and starting out it’s frustrating buying real expensive tools or jigs and you can’t use em like the videos when you learned how, so it’s nice y’all made such an in depth video explaining a real cheap way to sharpen these blades!

  • @JonWilsonPhysics
    @JonWilsonPhysics 4 роки тому +1

    Rex, I just took my first ever shavings with a plane! Got a Craftsman plane from a flea market a few days ago, and today I cleaned it up and sharpened it, then took some shavings from a bit of scrap 2x2. It worked! Now I need to get a bunch of 2x4s and build my low Roman bench.

  • @chefmike69
    @chefmike69 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video you can get the 3M automotive sandpaper at Walmart for like three bucks a pack that stuff is good too. Awesome videos Rex

  • @735rob
    @735rob 4 роки тому +1

    I don't want to be that guy but... Rex 0:54 "I am gonna hand it to Nate, I am not gonna touch it for the rest of the video" Me 4:14 "WHAT ARE YOU DOING???"

  • @bradleybarth9939
    @bradleybarth9939 4 роки тому +1

    I have greatly enjoyed watching these videos. I am a once a month for 6 month woodworker/beer brewer. I live in Wisconsin and with an insulated but un-heated garage I only have a few months where it is comfortable to do wood working. Beer brewing is done in the basement. With all of the videos on planes, chisels, saws and other metal items, how do you go about protecting them when they are unused for a period of time? I think that would be a great video idea to cover.

  • @stephenaubuchon2442
    @stephenaubuchon2442 4 роки тому +1

    Rex, again, you have produced an entertaining and educational video. Thank you for all you do!
    I do have one question. How do I determine how far my plane iron or chisel needs to stick out from the honing guide? I got one, but mine does not come with a convenient chart like yours did. I can just lay it on the stone or sandpaper and eyeball it, but I'd like a way to be more precise, preferably without letting my inner engineer out of the hole I keep him in. He's always trying to measure accurately a calculate exact angles. That never turns out well!
    Thanks!

  • @mkbcoolman
    @mkbcoolman 4 роки тому +1

    I love this video so much. I was very intimidated by sharpening when I first started woodworking, but it's really not that difficult when you get your system down. I use two different setups...sandpaper for grinding and diamond stones w/ strop for honing. For grinding, I have 4 heavy grits of self-adhesive sandpaper stuck to a flat ceramic tile I got from Home Depot for $2. I just went and grabbed a level from the tool dept then went over a couple of tiles until I found one that was dead flat. It's 18" long, so I can take really long strokes when I'm grinding off a new bevel. I also have that roller jig, but I only use it to set a new bevel. I have a Course/Medium/Fine diamond set I bought off of Amazon for honing. Finish it on the strop with some honing compound, and I can shave the hair off my arm. Re-honing takes a minute, as I typically do 15-20 strokes on the medium and fine stones, then give it 10 strokes on the strop and it's back to razor sharp.
    Once I took an old file I found in the bottom of my toolbox that hand't been used in years (extremely hard steel), and decided to see if I could put an edge on it. In 15 minutes, it was razor sharp. I put a handle on it and actually use it a ton. It's still a file, it's just has a chisel edge on it, and I've been really surprised how handy the file part is.

  • @theMrFouldsy
    @theMrFouldsy 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this Video Rex, I just used it to sharpen an old Stanley plane I picked up recently. I never thought I'd be able to get a tool to work so well! Immediately I was able to get paper-thin shavings and beautiful finish on some scrap bits of wood.

  • @hoperules8874
    @hoperules8874 4 роки тому +1

    lolz...got into woodworking and then found out the cost of stones...then one day after having wet sanded a piece of metal attached to my project...got to thinking...

  • @rheanikolishen6432
    @rheanikolishen6432 2 роки тому +1

    I'm retired,love woodworking but mostly wood carving. I watch you every day and learned so much. I can't thank you enough. My chisel and plane are in great shape now

  • @johnmcdougall9766
    @johnmcdougall9766 4 роки тому +1

    I’m going to try this on a couple of old planes I got at a yard sale, when putting the blade back in the plane does the bevel go up or down or does it matter?

  • @ajsiemers
    @ajsiemers 4 роки тому +4

    you touched the iron after you said you wouldn't!

  • @joeh4295
    @joeh4295 4 роки тому +1

    I bought that same honing jig after watching your chisel sharpening video. Great work, thanks!

  • @myteric117
    @myteric117 2 роки тому

    I really enjoy your approach in the videos. So far, I'm only a watcher, but am planning to sharpen some old chisels I have that have seen better days.
    BTW, chromium oxide buffing compound -you said it was chromium and oxygen- that's inaccurate. Chromium oxide is chromium rust, just like iron oxide is iron rust. Oxygen has acted on the metal to (begin to) degrade its structure. Putting chromium oxide into the compound makes the compound have a kind of super-fine 'grit' (like putting grades of sand on paper makes paper have varying 'grit'). Different additives in compounds help with polishing, buffing, even cutting. No, I'm not a chemist or similar, but woodworking isn't the only rabbit hole on youtube.

  • @mypony891
    @mypony891 4 роки тому +1

    Is there a reason you don't use diamond Stone? I figured since you never had to worry about flattening the stone it might be better.

  • @emm_arr
    @emm_arr 4 роки тому

    6.55 or so ... what Rex doesn't say is that this is fairly mindless and enjoyable - the kind of thing you can do in front of a TV or chatting with people. It's a perfectly good way to spend an evening!
    I was lucky enough to find an offset of cut and polished granite on a street one day - from a bathroom or kitchen installation. It's about 18 inches long and a couple of inches wider than a typical place iron. It's perfect for fettling planes and sharpening.

  • @christopherburgess96
    @christopherburgess96 4 роки тому

    Exactly where am I supposed to pick up free leather? :/ Leather hasn't been used to make low end consumer goods for decades! My belts aren't leather, my wallet isn't leather - I don't think anybody in my extended family owns a piece of leather that isn't treasured.

  • @DeDraconis
    @DeDraconis 4 роки тому

    This is probably a silly question. I have a negative association with Chromium, probably due to certain movies and articles that push your anxiety button in order to get clicks. Is that compound something where, if I was working in a poor or unventilated space, that I'd want to wear a mask to use?

  • @jenkins1979
    @jenkins1979 2 роки тому

    Hi Rex,I see the sharpening jig ur using on Amazon but they show 2 dif ones .They are made with 2 separate materials.Which one is like yours?

  • @nightcatarts
    @nightcatarts 4 роки тому +1

    Very comprehensive video, really good job.
    I look forward to the oilstone one. I use waterstones because it's just a lot less messy, & am interested in seeing whether there's any real difference (other than waterstones generally wearing down more easily).

  • @budm9982
    @budm9982 8 місяців тому +1

    Old video but its exactly what I needed. Thanks.

  • @ryandkaytv2426
    @ryandkaytv2426 4 роки тому +1

    Hey uncle fester, I haven’t seen you use your table saw since you hurt yourself...are you afraid of it now?

  • @nextlifeonearth
    @nextlifeonearth 4 роки тому +2

    Can you also cover diamond stones? You can get them fairly cheap and in my experience sharpening my home made HSS kitchen knives they can last for years.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  4 роки тому

      I don't own enough of them. I waiting for an affordable set that really lasts.

    • @nextlifeonearth
      @nextlifeonearth 4 роки тому +1

      @@RexKrueger In my limited experience I found that I got a 200 grid one and after a lot of use it's still usable, but is more like a 400 grid one.
      I got this idea since I got two sets once and kept one in the packaging for two years. When I lost the 100 grid somewhere I figured I'd fetch the one from the packaging and then found they were all rougher than the ones I used for all that time.
      They erode a bit, but stay usable.

  • @phrenchphried
    @phrenchphried 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Rex! Is there a way to tell what grit a sharpening stone is?

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  4 роки тому +1

      Good question! I bought all mine used, so i go by touch. My coarse stone feels rough, they then get smoother until my white arkansas stone which feels like a marble counter-top. It's hard to believe that it's a sharpening stone until you use it. Hope that helps!

  • @spokes28
    @spokes28 2 роки тому

    Appreciate your video! I bought a piece of glass and some sandpaper and one of those honing jigs. Want to sharpen a small plane that was my dad’s. Can’t figure out how to use that honing jig, how to set everything.

  • @masterpjd
    @masterpjd 2 роки тому

    ROOKY MISTAKE: never lay a plane edge down on the bench!!! Rex; u explain WHY?

  • @jesusescobar435
    @jesusescobar435 4 роки тому

    With all respect to you video guys, nubbies will be confused,just said the right grit sandpaper number, and lots of fellas will apreciated. And also try to short your footage little.

  • @nalinux
    @nalinux 4 роки тому +1

    I don t remember the name of this guy, but he's always funny :P

  • @MikkosFree
    @MikkosFree 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Rex, any chance we can see you work with coconut lumber? People are saying it's only good for disposable things like scaffolding, but I think a woodworker could figure out a way to make it more useful.

    • @RexKrueger
      @RexKrueger  4 роки тому

      I tend to stick with woods grown near me. I know where they came from and that they are sustainable.

  • @paulbrissett6518
    @paulbrissett6518 3 роки тому +1

    When stropping, am I working the primary bevel or the secondary micro bevel?

    • @jankoodziej877
      @jankoodziej877 3 роки тому

      Leather is soft enough that it seems to me it's both at the same time.

  • @DanT10
    @DanT10 3 роки тому +1

    I did it! Thinner than paper shaving buttery smooth wood. And it is amazing. Rather than sandpaper I bought the sharpal diamond stone 60 bucks for the big one (do not bother with the small one). 320 on one side and 1200 on the other. This is a tool steel terror. The stone does its job well add a strop and you are done. That said. I did and redid the blade. Now on to the true beginner how to plane.
    Rex and Nate Thank you!

    • @adamthewoodworker2571
      @adamthewoodworker2571 3 роки тому +1

      Hey, do you have a link or name for the diamond stone that you bought?

  • @Oscar-xj1xk
    @Oscar-xj1xk 4 роки тому +1

    Did Rex just say that I need to go to Ikea to get a nice flat shelf!?
    What's going on? 😁
    Great video, thank you for sharing!

    • @joejoelesh1197
      @joejoelesh1197 4 роки тому +1

      Well, you could, or you could Cruse by the dumpster of any appointments near a college around the end of a semester.
      LOTS of Ikea crap being thrown out.

  • @TheSuperwrenchGarage
    @TheSuperwrenchGarage 3 роки тому

    This may be a really dumb question, but how do you know 50mm is 25 degrees?

  • @soul13lue
    @soul13lue 3 роки тому

    will the oilstone sharpening video still be coming? Interested in watching that. Thanks for the videos no room for woodworking yet but one can dream.