Honestly, as an Englishman I think it's time to admit URC is head and shoulders above the premiership in every way. Prem has some great games but the skill level and competitive nature plus the SA teams of URC is incredible.
I don't mean to open up a portal to hell and throw everything good in the world into it, but is there any appetite in English rugby for prem clubs to join an expanded URC?
Must agree 💯..the pace and intensity that game was played..gheezzz u gotta b 110% fit..I was on the edge off my seat😂..u can't take nothing away from both teams
Weatern Province and Stormers have always played this way (except for Toeties era). Even our schoolboys play this way. It is a very South African way. Have any of you even watched any ameteur era games?!
Vrystaat, now the Cheetahs has always played expansive also, just under Rassie period that it got tighter. The days of Helgard Muller and Brendan Venter et all, they always had a beautiful brand of rugby. And yes, UA-cam any of the school boy games, it's a fine example of silky play and beautiful running game.
Stormers/Western Prov have always played like this, or sought to play this way...going back to year dot (and have always had the best supporter base/crowd attendance even in Super rugby... we'd be upset if they played a different way). Gonna be a tough game against Munster tho ,with their top guys back from injury
@@rossdkelly Coach Dobson related the story of a guy who took lifts into town for that week because he wanted to go watch the semi final against Connacht.
People seem to forget that the 2010s under Allister Coetzee, Rassie Erasmus, Jacques Nienaber, Robbie Fleck were the anomoly. The 99 Men in Black Stormers had Paulse, Rossouw and Monty lighting things up. The 80s had the Du Plessis brothers. WP/Stormers are running teams by heritage, that's how rugby is played "op die landjie". Dobbo is taking us back to roots
Even if the Stormers win a second time, it's okay because the growth this competition has gained has been immense, enough so to make it the second best club comp in the world, and it's only going to go up.
great chat. but un-south african Stormers is a wrong take. some would argue thats actually the Real South Africa, SA been playing expansive rugby for years, more years than they been playing conservatively.
"Un-South African Stormers". All the SA teams have always (well, not really always) played running Rugby. The point I'm getting at is that the SA teams don't play like the Springboks, and that hasn't even been true of the Boks for the past couple of years. They've been using their backline a lot more.
A Certain Cork man who plays # 6 for Munster and likes a fight will have that video of Dweba saying “we are going to F€ck them up” playing in that dresser room and he’ll be smiling
This is the thing right, SA teams get labelled this forward bashing rugby but watch our Varsity Cup and you will shit yourself because they playing Kiwi rugby. When the lads go up to Currie cup our game changes.
Buddy we only get that crap from them when we beat them at their own game. Watch the URC closely kicking and the forward game is very prominent even more so than us a few years ago to be honest.
@@andrewwarren3566 I think it was a disgrace that the Stormers game was shown in the afternoon. Children could have been watching. Most of those tries were filthy.
@@andrewwarren3566 even so I agree with you and I do believe we play to our strengths and the North compliment our game bud. Just my opinion to be honest but the whole rhetoric that SA play this dumb crash ball game clearly don't watch our youth.
You guys need to get your stats in order! Un-South African Stormers? Number of tries scored for the top 5 teams Leinster 91, Bulls 81, Stormers 78, Ulster 76, Glasgow 73. You need to watch more SA rugby at club level
It wasn't at the RDS it was the Aviva. Also, stop going on about disrespect to the URC. The teams were well matched, Leinster lost by 1 point. If it was a cricket score you might have a point!
As a Dubliner i'm good with 2 Of 4 international Irish clubs being in finals this year, Hopefully Ulster will get back to their unstoppable best and Connacht are getting up there with the other 3 Provinces ,And as a 4 Province Ireland team we'll stay competible against the rest of the worlds rugby teams.
Two incredible finals coming. If we win both , ie Mun & Lein, it will be a massive boost for Ireland, lose and I’ll scream into a pillow and then eat it.
Those 2 finals gonna b epic I can promise ..bt thumbs up to the Irish rugby they really impressed me alot..SA suffered most defeat to them..keep it going..URC gonna b hektik in upcoming years.. stormers fan
Un-South African but at last W Cup they scored second most tries. Yet Sir Clive Woodward critized SA's play. In 4 W Cup finals, and Woodward were involved, Eng only scored 1 try. So how entertaining was their play ?
Why are you using media whore Clive Woodward’s opinion as a base for anything ? Do you really believe he speaks on behalf of England rugby ? Why also why are you comparing the Boks try record at previous RWCs against England ? What has that got anything to do with the Stormers losing to Munster in URC final …nothing .
If you know anything about south african rugby and its history you will know the south, north and central parts of the country plays different styles of rugby. Research a bit more.
Honestly this 2nd team nonsense it silly because here is my opinion. The coach picks his first team for this specific game, doesnt matter who is on the bench because this is his tactic so his starting is his 15. I mean do we just field the entire Ireland team and if they still lose then whats the next excuse. Munster played well and Leinster being exposed, every team loses ones right I mean thats the old cliche. Leinster should get that loss in the beginning of the season.
They were hardly going to field their first XV with the champions cup final this week they took a gamble it didn’t work it nearly did lack of leadership cost them.
Always a great pod of Lad's too listen too. But since Magic Munster has won 5 away on the trot and has never loss to the Stormers; I will put my money on the UN-der-dog Stormers 🔥
All respect to Hamilton but Western Province pioneered the attacking game for the past 100 years. What we are seeing is just Province being Province. South Africa is a ball in a hand nation.
Un-South African? Somebody clearly doesn't understand amazing dynamics of South African rugby, North vs South, Highveld vs Coast. Otherwise, some interesting points but some quite out there 'hottakes' too must be said, such as the team selection being disrespect, a bit of a farcical take tbh.
Stormers will take it sorry Irish Cup will stay if the final was in Ireland against Leinster no way but lucky for us if you get to semi finals put your best team in hope Leinster have learned this
It never will mate.........as long as quota's is a thing it will stay the way it is and maybe even get worse with the expectation of forcing more players of colour in the team
After 2 seasons in the URC, the Stormers are yet to play a Leinster A team. In all the group matches against the Stormers, Leinster have picked B teams, and in the knock outs another team beat Leinster the last 2 years.... Dobson must be the luckiest coach I've ever seen, lol
@OzyMandias. Ozy, here is another perspective. Leinster picks their own team for every match. Just recently Leinster arrived here for a game against the Bulls and received their biggest loss. Why? Because they picked a side and rested most senior players for semi final the next week. It is on record that Dobson did the same in the games leading to the semi's and final. In fact, it is on record in our press that Dobson was sweating some selections to get where we ended up. Yet the Stormers still pulled through. Dobson took over the Stormers a few years back, in total disarray and worked wonders with them with meagre resources. He is not "lucky", in fact very astute and respected in the team.
Could we address these terrible view points. Taking 2 mins to explain so called Un-South African rugby while taking almust 3/4 of your video to explain a match that was more of a rugby world cup final than so called exciting rugby.
“Un-South African” what an insult to home grown Rugby. Anyway, Munster will not see much of the ball. You guys have a lot to learn about hyping Teams based on past performance. Any team that has beat the Stormers has been on tight margins. This coming game Stormers won’t hold back. To call them “un-South African” has a presumption to it that they are good because they don’t play local style. You gentlemen are wrong and know little about local Rugby. A lot of South African coaches and players brought Irish Rugby to the place it is right now. You guys look up to us more than anything. It is parity with us that makes you think you are better. The current style of rugby most Irish teams play was played in South Africa many moons ago. You are only catching up but WE keep evolving.
Honestly, as an Englishman I think it's time to admit URC is head and shoulders above the premiership in every way. Prem has some great games but the skill level and competitive nature plus the SA teams of URC is incredible.
Welcome aboard!
And thank you for supporting Connacht.
Agreed, just feels like more if a spectacle. It has re-ignited my interest in club rugby.
I don't mean to open up a portal to hell and throw everything good in the world into it, but is there any appetite in English rugby for prem clubs to join an expanded URC?
@@inamortz2372 😂
@Chris Brown Isn't that what the Champions and Challenge Cups are in way, English sides already playing games against our teams.
Nice review, the Leinster v Munster was the best club game I've watched this year.
Must agree 💯..the pace and intensity that game was played..gheezzz u gotta b 110% fit..I was on the edge off my seat😂..u can't take nothing away from both teams
As a Leinster fan, I hope Munster wins the URC.
Loving the URC.🏆 Long may it continue. 🏉
Weatern Province and Stormers have always played this way (except for Toeties era). Even our schoolboys play this way. It is a very South African way. Have any of you even watched any ameteur era games?!
I was going to say the same thing, clearly they have very little knowledge of SA rugby
Vrystaat, now the Cheetahs has always played expansive also, just under Rassie period that it got tighter. The days of Helgard Muller and Brendan Venter et all, they always had a beautiful brand of rugby. And yes, UA-cam any of the school boy games, it's a fine example of silky play and beautiful running game.
Stormers/Western Prov have always played like this, or sought to play this way...going back to year dot (and have always had the best supporter base/crowd attendance even in Super rugby... we'd be upset if they played a different way). Gonna be a tough game against Munster tho ,with their top guys back from injury
I agree but they have the biggest crowds because the ticket price is cheap as chips. The quarter final in Dublin tix we’re €75, bloody rip off.
@@RoyBattyLives Cheap as chips to a South African or a European?
@@RoyBattyLives 75 is ridiculous for a URC game. Final maybe but quarter, madness.
@@rossdkelly Coach Dobson related the story of a guy who took lifts into town for that week because he wanted to go watch the semi final against Connacht.
People seem to forget that the 2010s under Allister Coetzee, Rassie Erasmus, Jacques Nienaber, Robbie Fleck were the anomoly. The 99 Men in Black Stormers had Paulse, Rossouw and Monty lighting things up. The 80s had the Du Plessis brothers. WP/Stormers are running teams by heritage, that's how rugby is played "op die landjie". Dobbo is taking us back to roots
2 good teams they deserve to be in the final. I believe that the stormers are going to be up for it. Can't wait!
as a URC fan and not a Stormers fan I thing having a Munster playing in CPT is way bigger for the URC growth is epic honestly.
URD? CPT?
Even if the Stormers win a second time, it's okay because the growth this competition has gained has been immense, enough so to make it the second best club comp in the world, and it's only going to go up.
50 000 tickets sold in three hours. It is going to be insane in the Cape Town Stadium. Two awesome teams, I can't wait.
@@ss2gora0 yip agree totally.
great chat. but un-south african Stormers is a wrong take. some would argue thats actually the Real South Africa, SA been playing expansive rugby for years, more years than they been playing conservatively.
Jake white era changed this.attacking to conservitive
Stormers Here we go Stormers here we go!!!
Lads, ah it was on in the aviva and they closed the top decks
Thank you URC guys for allowing us into this league, this league is so entertaining.
URC final sold out to 55,000 fans in 3 hours....
Just when you thought Irish Rugby was hitting an all time high, Munster go and beat Leinster in Dublin.
Yep because Munster is not an Irish team 👍
@@jonnybyrne989 Eh?
@@jonnybyrne989 i think he meant thats things have gone even higher
Munster are Irish lmao 🤣
oh dear. Are you 12?
"Un-South African Stormers". All the SA teams have always (well, not really always) played running Rugby. The point I'm getting at is that the SA teams don't play like the Springboks, and that hasn't even been true of the Boks for the past couple of years. They've been using their backline a lot more.
That was the best game of club rugby that I have witnessed for many a year.
A Certain Cork man who plays # 6 for Munster and likes a fight will have that video of Dweba saying “we are going to F€ck them up” playing in that dresser room and he’ll be smiling
This is the thing right, SA teams get labelled this forward bashing rugby but watch our Varsity Cup and you will shit yourself because they playing Kiwi rugby. When the lads go up to Currie cup our game changes.
Buddy we only get that crap from them when we beat them at their own game. Watch the URC closely kicking and the forward game is very prominent even more so than us a few years ago to be honest.
@@andrewwarren3566 I think it was a disgrace that the Stormers game was shown in the afternoon. Children could have been watching. Most of those tries were filthy.
@@andrewwarren3566 even so I agree with you and I do believe we play to our strengths and the North compliment our game bud. Just my opinion to be honest but the whole rhetoric that SA play this dumb crash ball game clearly don't watch our youth.
It's not Kiwi rugby though. It's SA rugby. The way we've always played.
The rugby the Boks played under Jake White and Rassie Erasmus is in fact the un-South African rugby.
You guys need to get your stats in order! Un-South African Stormers? Number of tries scored for the top 5 teams Leinster 91, Bulls 81, Stormers 78, Ulster 76, Glasgow 73. You need to watch more SA rugby at club level
Connaght were very competitive.
It wasn't at the RDS it was the Aviva. Also, stop going on about disrespect to the URC. The teams were well matched, Leinster lost by 1 point. If it was a cricket score you might have a point!
As a Dubliner i'm good with 2 Of 4 international Irish clubs being in finals this year, Hopefully Ulster will get back to their unstoppable best and Connacht are getting up there with the other 3 Provinces ,And as a 4 Province Ireland team we'll stay competible against the rest of the worlds rugby teams.
I thought I was going to miss SR 😂
Two incredible finals coming. If we win both , ie Mun & Lein, it will be a massive boost for Ireland, lose and I’ll scream into a pillow and then eat it.
Those 2 finals gonna b epic I can promise ..bt thumbs up to the Irish rugby they really impressed me alot..SA suffered most defeat to them..keep it going..URC gonna b hektik in upcoming years.. stormers fan
Time to choose and narrow it down…are you going feather, down or memory foam ?
@@IverKnackerov just gonna win the Urc ..stormers all the way
How are Kelleher Baird Jenkins Conan VDF Ngatai Henshaw JOB the under14s. Get a grip
Un-South African but at last W Cup they scored second most tries.
Yet Sir Clive Woodward critized SA's play. In 4 W Cup finals, and Woodward were involved, Eng only scored 1 try. So how entertaining was their play ?
Why are you using media whore Clive Woodward’s opinion as a base for anything ? Do you really believe he speaks on behalf of England rugby ? Why also why are you comparing the Boks try record at previous RWCs against England ? What has that got anything to do with the Stormers losing to Munster in URC final …nothing .
All this first team second team nonsense. You play what's in front of you. You get to semis and finals after a season of games not a one off!!
Pull in lads! Got my tickets! 🎉
Un-South African? These guys need to watch more rugby…
Cmon on Stormers!!!
If you know anything about south african rugby and its history you will know the south, north and central parts of the country plays different styles of rugby. Research a bit more.
Honestly this 2nd team nonsense it silly because here is my opinion. The coach picks his first team for this specific game, doesnt matter who is on the bench because this is his tactic so his starting is his 15. I mean do we just field the entire Ireland team and if they still lose then whats the next excuse. Munster played well and Leinster being exposed, every team loses ones right I mean thats the old cliche. Leinster should get that loss in the beginning of the season.
They were hardly going to field their first XV with the champions cup final this week they took a gamble it didn’t work it nearly did lack of leadership cost them.
Lol, URC is the second division for Leinster.
European champions cup is the first division and where all the €€€€ is.
@@RazorMouth well now they have nothing.
Always a great pod of Lad's too listen too. But since Magic Munster has won 5 away on the trot and has never loss to the Stormers; I will put my money on the UN-der-dog Stormers 🔥
Tickets sold out immediately. Had no chance 😞
All respect to Hamilton but Western Province pioneered the attacking game for the past 100 years. What we are seeing is just Province being Province. South Africa is a ball in a hand nation.
If you bring all the saffas back to SA the 4 SA teams would be right up there in both comps
Un-South African? Somebody clearly doesn't understand amazing dynamics of South African rugby, North vs South, Highveld vs Coast.
Otherwise, some interesting points but some quite out there 'hottakes' too must be said, such as the team selection being disrespect, a bit of a farcical take tbh.
😂Relax ,,Was meant as compliment ,,remember SA teams are only now hetting back to out real game again and people know us as conservitive
Excellent thanks, and graham O'rowntree very funny. Brought a smile to my face, yes were would we Irish without brilliant English coaches.
London Irish to join the URC 🤐
Imagine
Incoming English shield with Wasps and Worcester!
Yes!
Could do with another team full of Irish prospects
this isnt a bad idea...
Stormers will take it sorry Irish Cup will stay if the final was in Ireland against Leinster no way but lucky for us if you get to semi finals put your best team in hope Leinster have learned this
Is it disrespectful for the competition, he asks, he obviously did not take his meds this morning.
Frawley miss was shocking
It was a good game of rugby from Munster but far from the best club game ever lol... You should get out more👍
Question: When do you guys think South African teams will return to merit based selection?
It never will mate.........as long as quota's is a thing it will stay the way it is and maybe even get worse with the expectation of forcing more players of colour in the team
Leinster 2nd team would beat most teams and they deserved their run-out
Trur they whip other teams
a commentator on the game who doesn't watch any game more than once? really?
After 2 seasons in the URC, the Stormers are yet to play a Leinster A team. In all the group matches against the Stormers, Leinster have picked B teams, and in the knock outs another team beat Leinster the last 2 years.... Dobson must be the luckiest coach I've ever seen, lol
They don't make it to the big boy game
@OzyMandias. Ozy, here is another perspective. Leinster picks their own team for every match. Just recently Leinster arrived here for a game against the Bulls and received their biggest loss. Why? Because they picked a side and rested most senior players for semi final the next week. It is on record that Dobson did the same in the games leading to the semi's and final. In fact, it is on record in our press that Dobson was sweating some selections to get where we ended up. Yet the Stormers still pulled through. Dobson took over the Stormers a few years back, in total disarray and worked wonders with them with meagre resources. He is not "lucky", in fact very astute and respected in the team.
Could we address these terrible view points. Taking 2 mins to explain so called Un-South African rugby while taking almust 3/4 of your video to explain a match that was more of a rugby world cup final than so called exciting rugby.
Dweba gonna be eating his words when we F him up SUAF
I would love to see you tell that man to his face 🤣 I have met him twice and honestly I wouldn't even for a million pounds
@@andrewwarren3566 all Dweba is good for is pulling faces and keeping the bench warm😂
@@andrewwarren3566 I’d tell him and then have my face smashed in haha
@finnanfitzgerald1402 I don't think he deserves to be capped to be honest but man he is a big piece of meat!!! I was shocked when I met the man.
@@hoggiegaming1749 lol 🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️
“Un-South African” what an insult to home grown Rugby. Anyway, Munster will not see much of the ball. You guys have a lot to learn about hyping Teams based on past performance. Any team that has beat the Stormers has been on tight margins. This coming game Stormers won’t hold back. To call them “un-South African” has a presumption to it that they are good because they don’t play local style. You gentlemen are wrong and know little about local Rugby. A lot of South African coaches and players brought Irish Rugby to the place it is right now. You guys look up to us more than anything. It is parity with us that makes you think you are better. The current style of rugby most Irish teams play was played in South Africa many moons ago. You are only catching up but WE keep evolving.