GoPro Hero 12 vs Hero 11 - Honest Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 16 гру 2024

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  • @GoPro
    @GoPro Рік тому +63

    Phillip, You’ve had quite the journey with HERO12 Black so far! While we understand you got the camera fair + square from a retailer, they mistakenly put it on shelf early. HERO12 goes on sale at retailers worldwide + preorders start shipping tomorrow, September 13. This means official firmware STILL isn’t available. Our teams are constantly working to fine-tune firmware up until on-shelf day + beyond. We encourage you to update your HERO12 to the latest firmware when it becomes available on the Quik app later today. Since we don’t know what firmware you have, you should first factory reset your camera to make sure the production firmware loads correctly. This will help with your comparison + future reviews 👍

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +11

      It's great to finally hear from you guys, it would be great if you could drop me an email and we could talk a little more, I have a few questions that I'd like answered to help me with my upcoming reviews. Yes, retailer human error + UA-camr go together like peas and carrots, I couldn't resist. I will of course follow your instructions and factory reset the camera before I do the official update via the Quik app to bring my audience and the UA-cam community the most authentic GoPro videos possible to help, educate and inspire. Thanks for getting in touch 🤜🏻🤛🏻

    • @cdjxwubcyex
      @cdjxwubcyex Рік тому +12

      @@PhillipSkraba I have noticed that after "getting in touch" many reviewers starts to praise these cameras, like there's no tomorrow...

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +3

      I like sticking to be open and honest, even when I work with other companies similar in size to GoPro, I am honest in my reviews. I believe this type of honesty helps companies grow, allows them to improve their products and if they listen, gains them a ton of respect from the community as well as loyalty.

    • @EspenJohan
      @EspenJohan Рік тому +7

      @GoPro what would have been smart is to send the camera for testing to smaller channels as well. It would make everything more believable. Many of the larger channels have lost all their credibility. They don't even use the cameras. Those of us who actually engage in outdoor activities are the ones you have to focus on. Just a little tip from a fan of GoPro

    • @ItzSKYVlogs
      @ItzSKYVlogs Рік тому +1

      Yooo that’s pretty dope that you guys reached out to P!!! You guys are some reals one! 😎🥷

  • @rodneyrobbie
    @rodneyrobbie Рік тому +43

    The 11 looks better hand down! Very clear & crispy! Not sure what the settings on both camera’s are set on, but yeah just my opinion from your footage!

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +5

      Both had the same settings, but later on hdr and flat profiles. The hdr vs natural ofcourse makes the Hero 11 sharper and more contrasty.

    • @Flyer2303
      @Flyer2303 Рік тому +1

      Was the lense clean? Looks odd. Could be a dodgy firmware too of course. 😉

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      @@Flyer2303 I think it was, but I can't be 100%. It was when I started filming, that's certain.

    • @abekislevitz
      @abekislevitz Рік тому +2

      HDR automatically sets the ISO so during lowlight, HDR generally will have softer details due to needing to crank the iso higher for the dual exposures.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      @@abekislevitz I'm really enjoying hdr, I was playing with it more today, and whilst it does the iPhone sun-bed look on my face when it's getting a little too much sun as apposed to the shadow areas it generally does a superb job. The amount of detail it retains in the highlights is wild compared to the standard profile, and therefore really has its uses if taken advantage of in the right situations.
      Thanks for dropping by Abe, it's an honour. I've been buying GoPros since the late 00's, it's fascinating to think you've had an input on no doubt all of them.

  • @AlrotaMusic
    @AlrotaMusic Рік тому +1

    13:52 Had both of them the same hypersmooth settings? To me the GoPro 11 just worked so much better there. Not sure if it's due to HDR mode then?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      It's possible, I will be updating my asap and trying out all the stabilisation settings in a dedicated video soon.

  • @rasmushag
    @rasmushag Рік тому +16

    is it only me or does the 11 look a little bit better outside?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      I’d say the same looking at the first shots in natural vs natural.

    • @rasmushag
      @rasmushag Рік тому +1

      i have a gopro hero 9, should i buy the 11, 12 or wait until a new gopro comes out? @@PhillipSkraba

  • @armando.visuals
    @armando.visuals Рік тому +6

    🙋HDR doesn't work when light is constantly changing in my experience. HDR works best when the scene between the shadows and highlights have more contrast. Which is why in 05:12 the 12 looks better and the in 05:39 the 11 looks better. So it all depends what situation you use it for. But the 12 having HDR is of course a good thing.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +2

      Yes, that's very true. Some situations make hdr look really bad, and it's our creative choice when we choose to use it. If you're using it in a professional way, you'll know that and use it to your advantage. I think it's a good thing too, we now have an extra choice.

  • @DJPREZ
    @DJPREZ Рік тому +2

    I currently have a hero 9 and I’m looking to upgrade.. what would be the best option? GH12 or A4?? Thanks!

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Both are excellent options, and I’d say both are on par with each other. If you need hdr, GoPro has it, if you prefer a simple menu system and native quick release system DJI has it. I’ll be putting them against each other in the next few days, you can see what happens.

    • @DJPREZ
      @DJPREZ Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba thanks for the response! I appreciate that! And yes.. all those points you mentions is what makes it so complicated to choose! Can’t wait to see your next video! 🫡

  • @lapuraneta509
    @lapuraneta509 Рік тому +3

    Hello I enjoy ur videos. Quick question was the hero 12 lens dirty it looks like a smoky film not clearlike the hero 11.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      It’s possible I touched it, it’s almost 30c out here, so hot and sweaty. As real as it gets, rarely is a GoPro lens crystal clear 😂

    • @pjazzz353
      @pjazzz353 5 місяців тому

      I see the same

  • @fromia1
    @fromia1 Рік тому +4

    The worst criticism I hear for the Action 4 is the micro jitters from the stabilization.
    Would be interested to hear if there is a difference between RS and RS+, and if there is a difference compared to Hypersmooth 6.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      I will be testing that pretty soon too. However I don’t notice any in my Action 4.

    • @maryetdave
      @maryetdave Рік тому

      Heard that there is a DJI update that just came out to help with the jitters

  • @iamralpgonzales
    @iamralpgonzales Рік тому +9

    I waited for hero 12 before I buy a Gopro but I think the difference on the 11 is not that a big deal (for me) - better to buy the 11. but great review Philip! cheers!

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      If it’s between the two, I’d go with the Hero 12, it has all the options and more minus the GPS.

    • @octny
      @octny Рік тому

      no GPS is a big minus! many people use it even just to take photos when travelling in remote places, to view them later on a map!@@PhillipSkraba

  • @LookatBowen
    @LookatBowen Рік тому +5

    Hero 11 looked better in most of your video review. HDR in hero 12 looks good. Get rid of the gym membership, buy a concept 2 rowing machine. Sorted! Great video as per usual. Action 4 for me. I'm still on the GoPro Hero 7, so I think that will be awesome upgrade

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Lol gym membership doesn’t work. Hero 7 to Hero 12 is an awesome upgrade 🔥

  • @simonlynch1412
    @simonlynch1412 Рік тому +2

    I think the 11 looked better in most of them shots and what happened to the stabilisation as it didn't work at all ? You say let us be the judge as you have not seen it yet but now you have I would like to hear your opinion.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Well, I had stabilisation on oldschool stabe, no horizon lock. Once you turn on horizon lock, stabilisation takes on a completely different look. I will be testing all the different stabilisation modes as soon as the Max Lens Mod 2.0 arrives that I ordered.

    • @simonlynch1412
      @simonlynch1412 Рік тому

      But surely now you have seen the footage you can’t say the 12 was better than the 11. By the way I have never owned a GoPro before so I am not anti GoPro and intend buying the 12 but I am disappointed with the 12 in this review

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I would say in natural profile, they are the same...but, there is an option for hdr, there is an option for Log footage, there is live view in record, there is time code, there is a new easy UI, there is an easy menu, the battery is a little better and it has a few more bells and whistles. Did you see Apple added a usb-c this year, a titanium body and apart from that, eh. We can't strive for huge steps every year.

  • @DimmanExploring
    @DimmanExploring Рік тому +1

    i got the new gopro 12 but i cant get the gopro update the lastest firmware did you got any issue?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      You can’t yet, it won’t come out till tomorrow. I have a GoPro “special” firmware update 📛

    • @DimmanExploring
      @DimmanExploring Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba aha thank you i was getting crazy all day hahahaha then i though only big Yter can use it ,but i wanted to be 100%, thank yoi for the reply

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      @AbroadWithJimmy yeah, tomorrow it will be usable.

  • @ephemeralmoments
    @ephemeralmoments Рік тому +3

    Nice first testing! I can't stop wondering if you happened to touch the lens of your GP12 somewhere during the review. It might also somehing else, but to me the lens seems not to be perfectly clean. When filming against the light the contrast considerably drops on GP12 and the dark areas become too bright... Regarding the battery, it would be nice to have a test under exactly the same conditions. HDR on GP12 probably needs a little bit more power. On the other hand GPS should be switched off on the GP11 (if not already done). Looking forward to more comparisons.

    • @dbsranchr
      @dbsranchr Рік тому

      That’s what I thought too.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      It is very possible. Hot and sweaty 30c here today, but I guess that makes it an even more authentic test, as I think most GoPros are dirty. More comparisons on their way 🤘🏻

    • @dbsranchr
      @dbsranchr Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba it’s been a brutal summer here too. Thanks for the review!!

  • @gurahamu4718
    @gurahamu4718 Рік тому +4

    I think had GoPro called this the 11+ (a bit like the 3+ all those years ago), I don't think there'd be as much negativity. My GoPro 7 black recently failed (power button and leaky seal) and after looking around and researching, I went with the OA4 for my specific use cases. Liking it so far, but I think GoPros are pretty good too. I'm more surprised how little GP12 coverage there is relative to other launches, but seems the odd embargo and perhaps not seeding as many units accounts for that? Sure, if you have a 10 or 11, maybe not a need to upgrade, but I have no idea how many people upgrade action cams annually.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Annually is crazy, every 3-4 years sure. I buy them or get them for reviews, that’s all. The OA4 is excellent!

  • @RetroBusker
    @RetroBusker Рік тому +1

    Can u shoot hdr with 4k60 lock horizen with and without max lens mod 2

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I will be testing that tomorrow when the Max Lens Mod 2.0 arrives 🔥

  • @divyeshpatil7857
    @divyeshpatil7857 Рік тому +1

    I am going to buy GoPro 11 ..uts really heating problem? Please suggest

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I’d go with the Hero 12 if you have a choice.

  • @michaelgiordano
    @michaelgiordano Рік тому +5

    HDR mode looks good in this. I'm interested in seeing the lens mod. Battery life claims seem very exaggerated. Also, I'm going to keep saying there is zero reason the 11 can't have live preview. If it can stream to social media and record internally at the same time then it has all the capability, GoPro is just gatekeeping this feature to entice and upgrade to the 12. It's too bad GoPro doesn't offer some type of software upgrade for the 11 with the purchase of the new lens mod.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      The hdr looks great, and believe me, I was pissed from the Hero 8 and up that GoPro didn’t have live view record.

  • @AnthonyDiPalma
    @AnthonyDiPalma Рік тому +1

    Great video. Thank you. What bag are you wearing?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Ahhhh thanks! The Wandrd 3L sling, it’s absolutely fantastic!

  • @Patrickunterwegs
    @Patrickunterwegs 10 місяців тому

    Great comparison. I still have one question which GoPro couldn't or didn't want to answer. For me I like to film im Flat or future then in GP-Log. For me it seemed that GP-Log also includes some HDR-features, because the background was not burned out in the parking garage at 8:21 before you started to run. The silver car in the background was with Hero12 very good to see, but with Hero11 completely burned out. Do you have an info/feeling about if HDR is also part of GP-Log?

  • @piotr.wozniak
    @piotr.wozniak Рік тому +1

    Kurcze nie zauwazyles ale miales oplackowany obiektyw podczas krecenia 12tka. Eh

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Bylo 28/30 dzisiaj w Lodzi, bardzo mozliwe, tak zwany - real life test.

  • @KamilZabost
    @KamilZabost Рік тому +1

    Dlaczego obraz z kamery która była na rigu po lewej umieściłeś w kadrze po prawej? 2:48 haha, kurde jaki zonk, nie wiedziałem co się dzieje na początku...

  • @hmmme3
    @hmmme3 Рік тому +1

    I bought the 11 on sale a couple of weeks ago not knowing the 12 was about to release. I live on an island and thought we wouldn’t see the 12 any time soon so I was content. Today I went to the store and saw they had the 12 in stock and I couldn’t pass it up! Luckily I was still in my return window for the 11.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Oh no way!! You lucky soul!! You'll love it, hdr will come in handy for some nice island shots 🔥

    • @EhCloserLook
      @EhCloserLook Рік тому

      I did something similar… I bought the 11 before I left the USA for a long trip. That said, IDT I’m going to return it (in the near future) in order to get the 12. What do you guys think?

  • @xXadambXx
    @xXadambXx Рік тому +1

    maybe it's too much of a request, but I'm curious about the comparison between gplog and gopro lab wide on in hero 11. for professionals, gopro lab can be set like a timecode (TCAL). supposedly you can change it yourself LOGB = logbase, offset only from hero 11. the question is whether this is all they introduced, maybe all these new things in hero 12 are proven experiments on gopro lab (I ignore the bluetooth connection). I see that in darker conditions the camera does not try to brighten the image so much, but rather maintains a fast shutter speed, they even changed the basic speed to maybe 1/50-60s, whereas in Hero 11 it is definitely 1/30 at settings 25/ 30 fps is better because I locked it at >1/100, where the stabilization still works.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      I think little has changed, smoke and mirrors really. As I keep saying, the Max Lens Mod 2.0 is where the real magic happens.

  • @ItzSKYVlogs
    @ItzSKYVlogs Рік тому +1

    I get mine tomorrow at a gopro event here in the Netherlands. Can’t wait to do a review! 🥷😎

  • @bomatravels
    @bomatravels Рік тому +1

    Honestly i dont see a noticeable difference 😅
    Firmware update!
    I have hero 10 and got action4 last week.
    Thanks for the video 🙏🏻

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Well, I think the hdr, GP-Log and Max Lens Mod 2.0 will make a big difference. The Action 4 is an excellent camera, it's a good choice.

  • @mikkel1470
    @mikkel1470 6 місяців тому

    I NEED SOME HELP. I am going to buy 11 or 12. and honestly, i dont think that i have so much use for the upgrade.
    i am going to use the gopro when hiking, fishing and maby freediving. The problem i have is that i dont really know how much i am going to use log and HDR. And when it comes to the wide camera stuff, i mean that not alot of people have 4k or 5k monitors, so am i going to have use for the upgrade from 11 to 12 camera quality? I dont really care about the prize difference, just think that i can get a tripod with the 11 and still be under the prize of the 12. If someone can give me some answer, then i would be very happy

  • @hoineenietjij3331
    @hoineenietjij3331 Рік тому +6

    I was really waiting for the 12 for my first GoPro. But when I heard that they removed the GPS I was kinda confused. For me it looked like a nice feature so I think I am going with the 11.

    • @juthair
      @juthair Рік тому +1

      O mesmo aconteceu comigo já comprei minha 11 😢

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +3

      The GPS has made a lot of people sad, but I’ve never used it, much like 99% of people, so personally I’m okay with that. I do understand it might be a pain for some, and I guess GoPro will have a workaround like a GPS remote like DJI.

    • @T4nkcommander
      @T4nkcommander Рік тому +4

      Good choice. The 12 is just a software updated 11 without the GPS. I am convinced the 11 remains the best action camera on the market. You won't regret it!

    • @sebastienmeunier1643
      @sebastienmeunier1643 Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba This 1% claim by GoPro is such a load of crap!!! They are only counting people using the GPS stickers in the Quik app... Seriously, how retarded do you have to be to edit videos using that horrible crappy app?!? People who use the GPS telemetry use third-party software and edit their videos on a real computer, which GoPro cannot include in their stats! And if they hadn't murdered the Dashware software when they bought it I guarantee you more people would be using the GPS telemetry.
      Even if you don't want to use the GPS to add gauges in your videos, I still use the GPS to make sure all my cameras are set to the correct date and time (using the GoPro Labs firmware) and I LOVE that my photos are geotagged.
      Concerning a new remote that could include GPS, this is also a major fukken pain in the ass because I already have the Remote and I don't feel like getting a new one just to get GPS, which was included in previous cameras. Right now I own 11 GoPro cameras so if I wanna go race karts with friends we can all have our own GoPro and we can all get our own GPS telemetry. With the Hero 12 I would need to buy a separate remote for every single GoPro camera in order to get GPS data (assuming they do come out with a GPS remote)... You can quickly see how that doesn't make any frickin sense and why I'm so pissed that they removed the GPS.

    • @hoineenietjij3331
      @hoineenietjij3331 Рік тому +1

      @@T4nkcommander Yes i totally agree. They just removed the GPS that you can also disable on the 11, so they could claim better battery life and less overheating. Pretty weird selution to a problem and almost looks like a downgrade to me. Personally i want to use the gopro to film my karting races so the GPS feature is something i would like to have.

  • @Kenflyer
    @Kenflyer Рік тому +2

    Fantastic comparison!
    Can you overexpose GP-Log like SLog-3 or not?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Nah, I’d probably keep it clean, I don’t think this sensor will handle overexposure too well.

  • @thieudtcvlogs6312
    @thieudtcvlogs6312 Рік тому +1

    Ủa sao xem bền cam 12 lại hơi hơi bị mơ và tối vậy,,rất khó hiểu

  • @yathaloka-866
    @yathaloka-866 Рік тому +2

    Good gopro in every time gopro hero 7 black, hero 9 black hero 11 black

  • @AlrotaMusic
    @AlrotaMusic Рік тому +1

    5:45 "Maybe that's something they'll add in a firmware upgrade" - That firmware update takes a year and is called GoPro 13 😂

  • @watarchives
    @watarchives Рік тому

    Hi, question. At 12:41 did you turn on the HDR here?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      That right there is the flat profile on the Hero 11 and the natural profile on the Hero 12.

    • @watarchives
      @watarchives Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba thank you so much, with this answer you convinced me to go with Hero 12 instead of 11. I appreciate you 🙏

  • @unclewillie7921
    @unclewillie7921 Рік тому

    Thanks Phil I just went and bought one please do all the tests that you can the let us know what the capabilities are thank you

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Trust me, working hard to keep testing these. Congratulations on the purchase!

  • @TravelingwithAndrew
    @TravelingwithAndrew Рік тому

    Thank you for great comparison. Just wish to see LOG vs HDR to see who gets the best DR.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      GP-Log vs HDR on the Hero 12, I'll be doing that too.

  • @YouTubeshortsandreelsface
    @YouTubeshortsandreelsface Рік тому +1

    Which one i buy for my travel vlogs
    I dont have any experience of gopro and dji action 4
    Suggest me which camera i should have to buy

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I’d probably still go with the Action 4, I know it’s reliable.

  • @rickparkinmoto
    @rickparkinmoto Рік тому +1

    The 12 does seem like an overall improvement, albeit evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but from your footage it appears to suffer from considerably worse lens flare when the light is behind you @7:16. I've got one on order anyway. I've already got the 11 so now I'll be able to have one both front and back on my motorcycle (the 11 with the GPS on the front).

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Now that sounds like a solid setup. The Hero 12 will be great as you'll be able to have live view whilst you're recording now, big deal for mounting.

  • @regislaveuve
    @regislaveuve Рік тому +1

    Hi, thanks for your video.
    You used HDR on gopro hero 12 during the test ?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Sure, if you watched it, you’d know 😂

  • @jackpjk
    @jackpjk Рік тому

    So the HDR in the Hero 12 is not BT.2020 in a HDR profile like PQ or HLG? Is it rendered in SDR (Rec.709) and simply given more dynamic range by blending frames and/or tone mapping differences? And are we able to apply GoPro's various colors profiles to their HDR mode, and is it 8 or 10 bit?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I believe it's a couple of rendered shots at different iso's to give us a hdr shot.

    • @jackpjk
      @jackpjk Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba Okay cool, thanks!

  • @allanruiz9252
    @allanruiz9252 Рік тому

    Hello! Great work!
    For diving, short photos and filming, in your opinion, 11 or 12?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Thank You! I'd go with the Hero 12, it's new, it's got a load more pro options, it's clearly the winner.

    • @allanruiz9252
      @allanruiz9252 Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba Thanks!
      Here in Brazil I have a gap of +/- USD$100 between GP11 and GP12....😩
      This has made me think a lot, although your opinion had a lot of weight in my decision!

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      I'd go with the Hero 12.

    • @allanruiz9252
      @allanruiz9252 Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba Perfect!
      I just "clicked" the buy button! hahahaha

  • @TheFaithFilledJourney
    @TheFaithFilledJourney Рік тому

    Do you get a lot of sun streaks when filming with the sun behind you or is this just mine?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  11 місяців тому +1

      It’s not something that is abnormal, most of these small cameras will have some kind of wild flare.

  • @TommyDanger5
    @TommyDanger5 Рік тому

    this is odd, but it seems like the GP11 is sharper than the GP12? Noticed that on your face the most. That seems weird to me.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I think they're pretty comparable when it comes to the standard profile.

  • @liquidalloy
    @liquidalloy Рік тому +1

    Great video. I'm sticking with my 10 for a while. These upgrades on the 12 are nice, but i will hold off for the 13 possibly.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      The Hero 10 is great, mind you, the Hero 12 really feels like a good upgrade. I'm sure the Hero 13 will be a monster.

    • @liquidalloy
      @liquidalloy Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba agreed!

  • @kamilhusna94
    @kamilhusna94 Рік тому +1

    Lets go OA4 vs Gopro 12… please cover the low light. And maybe some selfies photography. Love your honest review, subscribed for all the dji vs gopro rivalry series. Hahah. Please make indepth interesting review. Keep em coming.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      I will be dropping the DJI Action vs GoPro Hero 12 soon, thanks 😂

    • @kamilhusna94
      @kamilhusna94 Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba actually i bought the OA4, used so its surprisingly cheap. Waiting for a good comparison to justify trying out the gopro 12. Main usage not for extreme sports, just vlog & a lil photography for me and my wife. As we dont like to bother other people asking to take our photos. I think what bothers me, shadows on face can be quite dark on the oa4.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      That's why I like making videos like these, out there in the streets, like 99% of action camera users do. I'll drop my comparisons in the next coming days.

  • @spirittravels.
    @spirittravels. Рік тому +1

    How is the Hero 10 compared to the 11?

  •  Рік тому +2

    Hi Forest ;) First of all thank you for some semi low light test. I watched your video at my 50 inches TV to see detail differences between both camera and here it is what I spotted:
    1. HDR is amazing if we talk about scenes in 05:16 (we see what is outside in 12, we see nothing in 11) and 11:55. Thats really something.
    2. I was looking at your t-shirt and 11 gave a smooth as baby face look of it. 12 gave as bumpy texturres a bit grundge effect which is acceptable.
    3. Cons of HDR we can see at you face. Its a bit overdraw 13:10 or maybe its just my feeling.
    Anyway it was quite nice compare. I am looking forward for next episods. I bet GP will release better FW which correct some issues.
    At the and to be totally honest - if not HDR I see not much differnces between those devices. Audio is same, overall quality as well. To be honest I am still do not have reason to be shame as a owner of GPH7. Lets see with direct compare test with DJI4.
    Greatings.
    PS: I am still holding like GPU potencial buyers ;)

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Yes, on the face HDR is overkill, especially in bright sunlight. I like the GP-Log, still need to test that a lot more.

  • @Charchit_Goyal
    @Charchit_Goyal Рік тому +8

    Using Dji to shoot a comparison between Gopro 11 and 12. Noicee man 😂

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +4

      I like to live dangerously 😂

    • @simonlynch1412
      @simonlynch1412 Рік тому

      And I’m actually considering buying that now instead of the GoPro is the footage from that looks great.

  • @jpandrews2791
    @jpandrews2791 Рік тому +1

    Hey Phil, when you mentioned auto boost I thought you were talking about your superlative running 🏃‍♂️

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      hahaaha, I run like I'm chasing someone who stole my GoPro!

  • @timmark4190
    @timmark4190 Рік тому +1

    Looks like 12 under exposes a bit when compared to 11 and thus recovering the highlight. 12 has more saturation and contrast

  • @bbofficial6544
    @bbofficial6544 Рік тому

    Facing heating problem in Go Pro 12?

  • @allenmyers8568
    @allenmyers8568 Рік тому +1

    The reason the Hero 11 and Hero 10 don't display live preview while recording is that GoPro was sued on copyright infringement for this technology. I guess they've re-designed it. Whether it is a good as originally intended, I don't know. Whereas DJI has been using its own proprietary preview for several years.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Apparently so, those are the rumours on the street.

    • @maryetdave
      @maryetdave Рік тому

      Per GoPro the 11 should get it in 2024 as an update

  • @T4nkcommander
    @T4nkcommander Рік тому +2

    Yeah, just a software updated 11 without the GPS unit - so you are paying for downgraded hardware. The HDR saves post-processing but better results can be gotten out of the 11 if you are color grading. I'm usually the first to say get the latest GoPro as they are worth it but this is the exception that proves the rule. Shame GoPro won't update the 11 to have some of these features, since the hardware is clearly capable of it.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I think the real difference is the Max Lens Mod 2.0, I’m looking forward to that.

    • @T4nkcommander
      @T4nkcommander Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba That's true - the enhanced FOV is nice. But is is frustrating knowing my 11 could do it, if GoPro just released the firmware update for it.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      It's possible, maybe, I have no idea.

  • @agator88
    @agator88 Рік тому

    Bought your new designed feet. Hoping they come in before my next trip in the 22nd.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Oh you're going to love those, they make life so much easier.

  • @ExcellentfilmsTube
    @ExcellentfilmsTube Рік тому +1

    Your run is simply... epic - like "Chariots od fire" - you're definitely GOing PRO :D

  • @garethaustin1212
    @garethaustin1212 Рік тому +1

    Best video I’ve seen. And based on it I’m about to order the 12! 👌🏻

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Well thanks for that! Glad you picked it up, it's a really nice action camera!

  • @EspenJohan
    @EspenJohan Рік тому +1

    Sorry to say, but I cant see any difference. Yes HDR do something, but upgrading from hero 11. Nope!. I have the Hero 10, works fine. Sometimes. I also have action 4, looks better then hero 12

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      The Action 4 is excellent. I don't think the upgrade is needed from the Hero 11 unless you use this in a professional environment, where you can make use of GP-Log, time codes and hdr here and there. If you're on the Hero 10, sure, that's worth an upgrade.

    • @EspenJohan
      @EspenJohan Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba Truth be told, you are actually one of the few channels on UA-cam that is honest and sincere. And the GoPro Hero 12 seems to be a good camera, but I think many had hoped for more. But possibly next year👍

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Thanks, I take pride in that. I think it's a great camera, with a ton of new options for pros, and sure, maybe next year they'll be ready for a bigger sensor, 8k, fireworks and all that jazz. We'll see.

  • @gggg
    @gggg Рік тому

    If you move your eyes to the center by connecting both images, you can achieve a stereo effect in this video😄

  • @JoJoEnglish
    @JoJoEnglish Рік тому +1

    Nahh not much of a difference for what I need. The DJI Action 4 seems to be the clear winner in this video

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      If you're coming from a Hero 11, yeah, not so much for everyday vlog use.

    • @JoJoEnglish
      @JoJoEnglish Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba Ya if you have an 11, not sure why you would upgrade unless you just do upgrades just because... I'm coming from the Hero 8 and Insta X2, but I'm digging the Action 4 the most out of all of them.

  • @bibinkurian1
    @bibinkurian1 Рік тому

    Hero 11 looks better than 12. Any setting difference??

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Well, if you look at the first shots, it's the same, after that I use hdr and GP-Log on the Hero 12, choices the Hero 11 doesn't have, so it may appear the Hero 11 looks better, but in reality it's the first shot that shows that the standard profile is basically the same.

  • @yasunakaikumi
    @yasunakaikumi Рік тому +1

    OA4 vs GPH12 comparison LFG

  • @paularckless7254
    @paularckless7254 Рік тому +3

    When you used HDR i still thought the Hero 11 on most of the video looked better and when your video got to about 6.31 the Hero 11 footage was far better than the Hero 12, i think in all the videos i have seen so far the Hero 12 is no better and in some footage worse than the Hero 11, i will stick to the Hero 11 and see what the competition brings out.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I think it's basically the same, and for hdr, you'd have to be a hdr fan, which I am not, but it does have it's use, in low light for example, there it works magic.

  • @Bullitain
    @Bullitain Рік тому

    thanks for doing a proper log comparison vs the hero 11, just what I was looking for

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      The Log looks great on the Hero 12, looking forward to using it.

  • @bbofficial6544
    @bbofficial6544 Рік тому

    Go pro 12 vs dji osmo 4 which purchase

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      It's a hard choice, I like both of them.

    • @bbofficial6544
      @bbofficial6544 Рік тому

      Sir please tell me I started you tube for bike vlogging which cemara is best go pro 12 vs DJI 4 please you suggest me sir 🙏🏻

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Both are excellent, you can't go wrong.

  • @ItzSKYVlogs
    @ItzSKYVlogs Рік тому +1

    Ayyywew great review P!

  • @8passdimagfast
    @8passdimagfast Рік тому +1

    Amazing hero 12 buddy

  • @juthair
    @juthair Рік тому +1

    Ninguém conta que tiraram o gps da 12

  • @dman5703
    @dman5703 Рік тому

    Hdr look amazing! The highlights are amazing

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      It really takes care of those highlights, that's true!

  • @BillBilly-hy6px
    @BillBilly-hy6px Рік тому

    I buy gp12 and video resolution is awesome!! And stability.

  • @lyric.kayden
    @lyric.kayden 10 місяців тому

    I don’t own either but looking at buying one of these two. I can definitely say after watching this video and several others that the HERO11 looks much better. I’m being totally unbiased here as I don’t own either but I’m in the market. I don’t even understand DJi Action 4 as every video the HERO11 looks so much better than the DJI Action 4. Trust me I don’t mind $500 for the right one, not a problem but geez I’m totally shocked the more I see. Maybe it’s the perfectionist and knitpicker in me lol. I’m sure for anyone that any of these could would be amazing.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  10 місяців тому +1

      I think it’s the introduction of hdr, but you can turn that off and it looks much more natural. The Hero 12 is by far the better choice in every single way, I’m unbiased too, I own all of them, and the Hero 12 has great improvements over the Hero 11, especially battery life and reliability.

    • @lyric.kayden
      @lyric.kayden 10 місяців тому

      @@PhillipSkraba sounds awesome, that is what I’m leaning towards myself. Thank you 😊

  • @zl1booker
    @zl1booker Рік тому +1

    Thanks Phillip

  • @11.Pierre
    @11.Pierre Рік тому +2

    Just what I was looking for. Let's see which 1 of these I grab, it's time to toss my old go pro hero 5 lmao

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Oh my gosh, yes it is!! Well, don't toss, just put in on the shelf. The Hero 12, that's the one to go with, no questions asked.

  • @kymmoulds
    @kymmoulds Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the great review and comparison as always Phillip. I'm sticking with my Hero 11 at this stage. Would love to see a review of the Hero 12's bluetooth and wireless GO. That said thanks again for a great and honest review and a BIG thumbs up.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Thanks Kym! I'll be testing the audio shortly, I'm very interested in that subject too.

  • @Krzysiek_w_Tokio
    @Krzysiek_w_Tokio Рік тому

    Nice one! Let's wait for the gp12 update and let the fight between OA4 and GP12 begin 😃

  • @don_rafau
    @don_rafau Рік тому +2

    Najbardziej czekam na porównanie Action4 z Gopro12🤓Mega dobry test, pzdr!

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Niebawem to tez zrobie 🔥

    • @don_rafau
      @don_rafau Рік тому +1

      @@PhillipSkraba mógłbyś przy porównaniu zwrócić uwagę na problem z ostrością w Action4? Wiele osób zgłasza problemy z mocnym rozmyciem na bokach obrazu oraz zbyt dalekie ustawieniu focusa, przez co często przy vlogowaniu twarz jest niewyraźna. Byłbym mega wdzięczny, ponieważ właśnie stoję przed tym ciężkim wyborem (DJI A4 VS GP12) 🙈

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      @don_rafau nie mam tego problemu, ale napewno zrobie close up vlog style dla porownaniu 🤘🏻

    • @rajzabike
      @rajzabike Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba też przyłączam się do tej prośby.

  • @Melo-z4i
    @Melo-z4i Рік тому

    U feel like the cams were switched around like the first 10min hero11 was looking very sharp n crisp then afterwards it was hero 12

  • @ia6980
    @ia6980 Рік тому

    I ordered 12, cuz lost my 11, but why 12 is much darker in most of your comparisons? Thats a big no for me, image looks much darker!

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      That really depends on what profile you’re using. It’s the same on the first natural shots, I wouldn’t say it differs.

  • @goyetus
    @goyetus Рік тому

    Maybe is firmware .... but im dissapointed. Hero 11 video has better image clarity , lower grain in low light, and better in general...... It seems the "battery fix" to 12 comes with a big cost. In PC, there are a few codecs and not "magic" as Go Pro says..... Hope im mistake.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      I think it's all down to use case scenario. The Hero 12 is not a huge update from the Hero 11, BUT, it is an excellent camera, with a few more choices that make a difference to pros. If you're coming from the Hero 10 or lower, sure, it's worth the jump up.

    • @goyetus
      @goyetus Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba THANKS a lot for the video. I Will upgrade from Hero 8. Will see Next days... you are the first!!!

  • @darmasutha2777
    @darmasutha2777 Рік тому

    Thanks, just canceled my 12 pre-orders and going to buy the 11 😂

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I guess it really depends on your use case scenario, if it's vlogging, the Hero 11 is more than enough. If you want choices as you're filming more ambitious projects with it, GP-Log will come in handy, as will live view record.

  • @merryanncabajes
    @merryanncabajes Рік тому

    After reading all the comments. I couldn't decide now which one is better to purchase. 😂 I added to cart the 11 and 12,. Let's see the final decision. 🤭

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Tell me about it!! The comments really do not help in choosing lol.

    • @merryanncabajes
      @merryanncabajes Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba I just checked out my GoPro Hero 12. 🥰

  • @BobAquatic
    @BobAquatic Рік тому

    12 seems like it has more pink in the skin tones. Great test dude

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      It does seem to go into a slightly cooler tone, yes. Thanks!

  • @liquidalloy
    @liquidalloy Рік тому +1

    HDR making a huge difference, all that is needed in the new Gopro is a larger image sensor

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +2

      HDR makes a massive difference here.

    • @liquidalloy
      @liquidalloy Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba I'm impressed with how nice it works. Great video btw

  • @thevijayraj34
    @thevijayraj34 Рік тому

    Why 11 looks clearer than 12 ?

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Where?

    • @thevijayraj34
      @thevijayraj34 Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba especially when there is sun behind you.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      It really depends, I think they're identical until I start switching up options on the Hero 12.

  • @somaticHuman
    @somaticHuman Рік тому

    Something is wrong with the lenses on Go Pro 12. The glare of the sun behind you makes me think that there are cheap plastic lenses with low transparency.

  • @justpovbusnotalking
    @justpovbusnotalking Рік тому +1

    clearly the stabilisation is better/smoother on gopro 12

  • @rogerking5197
    @rogerking5197 Рік тому

    It Stays clear at all times you see it for Yourself

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Still identical, except when I turn on other Hero 12 features.

  • @chrisfrombelgium946
    @chrisfrombelgium946 Рік тому +1

    HDR looks great.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      It does a good job in certain circumstances.

  • @emsenjansgasten
    @emsenjansgasten Рік тому

    15:40 lets hope Dji brings update,you prob mean the Go Pro

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Yeah, you know me, tired, sweaty, don't know my foot from my arse at the moment lol.

  • @Hfdsyi0pnvcx
    @Hfdsyi0pnvcx Рік тому +1

    Спасибо за видео bro.

  • @n0.-
    @n0.- Рік тому

    Imo hyperview is WAYYY too distorted. I prefer the 8:7 shape. On my Hero11 I love using the 8:7 feature
    Also I hope somebody tears down this camera to confirm whether the GPS has been removed or just disabled in software.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I think that would be a waste of a camera lol. The distortion is wild, yep, I much prefer the straight lines on the Action 4.

    • @n0.-
      @n0.- Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkrabaI don't think it would be a waste bc of FPV pilots removing screen, battery, etc from GoPro to make it lighter for FPV drones

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Well, they have the Bones, I think that's what they use a lot. I think.

  • @brokeforever
    @brokeforever Рік тому +1

    Is it just me or does the 11 look way better? The 12 has that oversharpened over processed look similar to Action 4. 11 looks much better in terms of the overall video quality.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      I see it the other way. The Action 4 is way more natural, I’ll drop the Action 4 comparison soon.

    • @brokeforever
      @brokeforever Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba from what I’ve seen on UA-cam the colors are more natural on action 4 but I don’t like the sharpening it has especially in bushes and shrubs it looks fine in a city environment with straight lines but in nature the sharpening looks unnatural to me. And I’ve seen GoPro 11 looking a little smoother and more natural in that environment but different videos have different settings so I could be wrong but this is based on what I’ve seen in multiple comparison videos.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      The Action 4 does seem more natural than the Hero 11, but we'll see, once I get to play with them a little more side by side all will be revealed. A few more days and I'll be on top of this.

  • @TableTennisWithChampions
    @TableTennisWithChampions Рік тому

    Interestingly, Hero 11 footage looked better and crisper in almost all the cases! 🤔

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Well, I'd say in the first comparisons it looked pretty much the same. In hdr, sure, as hdr will look less crisp, in GP-Log, same thing, it'll be flatter than flat. So in reality, it's the same, but with a ton more when it comes to choices and options.

    • @TableTennisWithChampions
      @TableTennisWithChampions Рік тому

      ​@@PhillipSkraba I will take your word for it. Amazing video!
      1 more question, when are you releasing the video comparing Max Lens 1.0 vs Max Lens 2.0 ? Really excited for that comparison.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      I ordered that via Amazon US to Poland, to it should be here on Wednesday Thursday, as I saw it was sent yesterday. As soon as I get it I'll be on that.

  • @legendfpv
    @legendfpv Рік тому +1

    You messed up the footage with the 12 😬, that's not how it looks. Check your settings again

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому +1

      Nope, it’s fine, and that’s how it looks.

  • @edselharrison
    @edselharrison Рік тому

    In HDR, it seems the only improvement is in the highlights, they're not as blown out. The shadows seem to be better on the 11. Meh...

  • @los_kiros
    @los_kiros Рік тому

    In your running test (Audio in camera part) looks like GoPro 11 has much more better stabilization :DDD

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Well, I'll be doing a dedicated stabilisation video, where I turn on horizon lock, but I'm waiting for the Max Lens Mod 2.0.

  • @nftcollectibles
    @nftcollectibles Рік тому +1

    GoPro 11 look better i think

  • @recharged0
    @recharged0 Рік тому +4

    the eleventh GoPro takes better pictures than the twelfth Gopro

  • @stefpix
    @stefpix Рік тому

    71% vs 68% is not double battery life. It sounds negligible. And the Hero 12 probably had a brand new battery, and the Hero 11 not, so the difference is moot,. I have the 10 and the 11, I barely see a difference in the real world. I do not need GPS often, but it is nice to have to geotag places. Probably the Hero 10 is the best deal among the action cameras.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      I am really liking the Hero 12, but yeah, it's not double battery life, not with how I'm using it at the moment.

    • @stefpix
      @stefpix Рік тому

      @@PhillipSkraba how would you rate the battery life difference at 5K 60fps between the 12 and the 10 or 11? In the end all these GoPros are good enough

  • @matlarasta
    @matlarasta Рік тому

    Go pro 11 is better, no flare better grading and better shadows .

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      Not so sure about that looking through the footage, they seem very similar in natural mode.

  • @rk71happyworld48
    @rk71happyworld48 Рік тому +1

    Go Pro 12 HERO OFFICIAL THE KING:::::👍

  • @RandumbTech
    @RandumbTech Рік тому +1

    The HDR actually looks really good! The audio sounds much better on the 12 as well. Looks like a decent upgrade, even from the 11.

    • @PhillipSkraba
      @PhillipSkraba  Рік тому

      It kind of looks like an iPhone on my face when it gets a little too sunny/overexposed, but through windows it does a fantastic job.

  • @LightingUpTheAbyss
    @LightingUpTheAbyss Рік тому

    Will stick with my 11 till the 13