Correction: This bike doesn't have a 6 axis IMU but it does have wheelie control. Seems I got confused with the Africa Twin! I also neglected to mention the 20L fuel tank, good for around 200 miles or so! Thanks for watching!
I exchanged my XADV and love it. The NT is sublime. I do 100 miles a day commute with my wife on the back and could not be happier. Tour Sport mode is epic. Urban mode for town. Easy to filter and very comfortable. Black with the voyager pack.
Actually this bike looks very nice in black. I rode the DCT version a week ago. Just like you said, very comfortable and nice to ride. I didn't find the throttle to be jerky. The suspension was nice. Will upload the video soon. Keep up bro.
The most honest review I've seen thankyou. As an FJR man, I was almost tempted by this, but soon realised I'd probably miss my electronic adjustable windshield, suspension and shaft drive 🤔
Having done a fair bit of touring, I am really tired of lubing the chain every 500 miles or so. That's like once every day or two if you're doing long distance touring. So, I agree this bike should have been designed with a shaft drive. It would be worth the extra weight and cost. I also will seriously miss the frunk feature of my NC750 X
@@RobertLeeLewisThe2nd I couldn't agree more. I've just got back from a 5000 mile trip to Norway. The FJR never missed a beat and no need to worry about chain maintenance.
Wish manufacturers would fit long front fenders to these touring aimed bikes,they don't look daft on these type of bikes and help to keep the rider cleaner and dryer and also make cleaning easier! Also a shaft drive would of been nice!
It’s a puzzle that it’s not offered here, but I guess Honda America is chasing Africa Twin and Goldwing sales. This is almost an ST1300 replacement? Probably the perfect application for this engine though?
I rode the manual (black) with QS for a whole day while my 500x was in for a service. I really liked it. Really really liked it - so much so that it is a serious contender instead of the Africa Twin that I have my heart set on.
Exactly the same here. Thinking of Africa Twin after my CB500X and I'm trying desperately to avoid the vortex that inevitably leads to the GS. Still not convinced about the AT to be honest, and if the NT had shaft drive I may be able to finally end the calling of the GS!
@@paulyflyer8154 thankfully I have done the GS/GSA thing. They are expensive, ugly (IMHO) and as ubiquitous now as washing machines or fridges - and they are not as reliable or as well built as you might think. These days I will take the AT every time.
Nice Review Dan. I am not the biggest fan of big touring bikes but I do like the look of the NT1100. Love the engine sound. I do agree that the switch gear needs backlighting. Surely that can be a thing by everyone now right so can be the phone connectivity, wirless connection has been around for a little while so that would be a benefit rather than using a cable :)
My cheap Kymco Agility 300 scooter has wireless connection thru bluetooth (as standard)and Noodoe App on my android phone. Surely Honda is up to the challenge. Bet they have it on 2023 model.
The main issue which many reviewers have mentioned about the V Strom 1050 was the windshield. They all complained about the fact that the rider must dismount for making the windshield adjustments. But when it comes abut a Honda it doesn't seem to be an issue at all, even though the windshield adjustment is more difficult to be done at the NT....
Very good review Dan. Covered a lot of good detail omitted by others. As a shorter rider I appreciate your focus on seat height and ergonomics. Would have liked to see how well you flat footed with both feet down. I'm in the market for this type and size of bike. But here in the States the NT1100 is not available. Nevertheless, I'm interested in your preferences on the following bikes on my short list: Ignoring price, looks, and electronic features (which vary among bikes), which of the following bikes do you prefer, and your order of preference, based on overall riding experience and fun factor: Triumph Tiger 900 GT Triumph Tiger Sport 660 Honda NT1100 Suzuki GSX S1000 GT Ducati Multistrada V2S Thanks
@@brothersoulshine The Tiger 850 Sport is a slightly de-tuned lower spec version of the 900, so if I go in that direction, I'll go for the more up-spec 900 GT. I rode the F800 GT a few years ago and didn't like it - too vibey, too far leaned forward. I may have mistakenly assumed the F750GS would be similar.
@@Englishbikerdan They have always been solid and reliable. So are my 1990s Trophys. As to fun; my Ural is fun. My Ducatis and Moto Guzzis bring something to the party. My BMWs plough a different furrow and are to be given credit for it. I am not saying that Hondas are poor bikes; far from it, but if you look at the Japanese brands it is as though they have almost given up on trying to move things on and are content on putting their older designs in new clothes. If it brings them commercial success in the long term then all credit to them, but I am reminded a little of the demise of the British bike industry which had a similar philosophy albeit out of lack of resources. (Suzuki now?)
Seems like a more sensible, less shouty version of the BMW S100XR, the front does look a bit too XADV, a bit snakey, but overall o think it looks great 👌🏻, that engine is superb fun too
Top review. Nice bike but I'd still go for the CRF1100. Hats off to Honda though for their New Touring approach, i'm sure the next one will be even more impressive 😎
@@Englishbikerdan Absolutely agree. Was looking to trade my 1200GS, but the change over was ridiculous. Was a honda man before the GS. Not keen on the accelerator comment and a few other small things you mention would annoy me. But I still really appreciate your honesty and relaxed sytle in this review. Cheers
Nice video I love the blacked out visor look u suit it very well I have got one for my helmet now and it's great riding along being hidden away from the outside wold it just gives you a bit of a break from everyone and everything! 👍😀
The CBF1000 was a sports tourer 17 years ago with 100hp and 100Nm of torque at about the same weight, and a seat height were you can get your feet flat on the ground. For reference at release it was just over £5K. Progress, eh? I don’t know why bike manufacturers don’t look again at belt drive. Chain drive on this style of bike just feels wrong, it seems shaft drive is now deemed to be too expensive/heavy, but a belt is as cheap as a chain, usually lasts longer and has the least driveline lash of any drive mechanism. Ultimately it will sell as it is a Honda but I couldn’t never get off, walk away, look back and think “that’s a great looking bike”. It resembles a scooter.
I've never ridden the old CBF1000 but like I always say, don't live in the spec sheet. I'd be willing to bet the NT handles much better than the old CBF.
@@Englishbikerdan you’d be surprised how well the CBF handles. It’s more likely that the brakes are a little firmer and extra gizmos like traction control, quick shifter etc. are definitely signs of progress, but that balances with euro emissions regs making it harder for manufacturers to make cleaner engines whilst maintaining power levels and fuelling. Taking into account inflation the CBF would cost £8K now…
I have the CBF 1000 it's a fantastic all rounder that is deceptively quick and with full luggage can make a great tourer..... The price of this bike is to high... It should be 10k max.. we just get rinsed in the uk
Basically an Africa Twin Adventure Sport with luggage and more plastic... I'll pass. Good review though! I absolutely love my AT! If anyone is in the market for a touring bike, this would certainly be worth looking into. My Africa Twin is an amazing bike when riding two-up. It took my wife a little while to get used to being so high up when riding pillion, but now that she's used to it she loves how smooth the bike rides. I'm sure this bike rides the same when taking a passenger just as you said.
@@alanbarnes2920 Hi Alan, I got invited to their off-road centre opening but I think that was just coincidental timing. However, I really appreciate the effort. And now I have a name at Potski who I can bother about some Yamaha press bikes. Fingers crossed!
I'm curious about how something like that would stack up in every way against the new GSX-S1000GT. I think from past experience I will always prefer a 4 cylinder to a twin, but the riding position on the Honda might be better for a taller rider? As far as looks go I'd take the Suzuki every time over that Honda though.
Any thoughts on why Honda didn't adopt the ever-so-popular "frunk" design found in the NC750? (Fuel stored in a cell under the seat, providing lower center of gravity and freeing up space for your helmet in the frunk where the fuel tank is normally located.) And, why didn't we get a shaft drive on a bike this size intended for touring? I'd pay extra not to have to lube the chain after every 10 hours or so of riding! (Yes, chain lubing every 500 miles is recommended. What a pain when touring!)
What do you keep clicking with your left hand? I thought it was DCT almost for a moment. I'm really trying to decide between a NC750X and NT1000 both DCT. I have the NC on already but they release this after. I'm in Asia and worry about squeezing by in traffic with the NT as it's so much wider.
Nice review! I was very interested in this bike when I saw it at the NEC show last December and had a test ride as soon as the local dealer got one. I agree completely about the jerky throttle, particularly in low gears. All reviews I’ve seen of the DCT version don’t mention this, so maybe it’s only an issue with the manual gearbox. For me it was a show stopper. I also found the switch gear very ‘busy’. After an hour and a half riding the bike I was still having to look down to find the indicator switch and also inadvertently selected high beam several times due the edge of my glove rubbing against the switch.
The description settings for power is odd and runs contrary to the XADV? I understand that more "bars lit" means more intervention. As in traction control or ABS or engine braking more segments more intervention. But for "power" in the XADV it would seem more bars lit is greater throttle sensitivity and well,,, more power. In the XADV default modes of sport and gravel the default factory setting has all segments lit which means "most power" not more intervention or less power. XADV 1 segment of power (rain) is less power and 3 segments is more power not more intervention as in the other selections? How strange the approach to this would be different between two similar Honda models with DCT. Hmmmm,,,,,
I think it’s great value but it hasn’t got a fancy IMU (I may be wrong), I sadly found the Multi V2S a lot more desirable..and expensive but I think it was worth the extra.
Can i ask how you found the throttle. I find the fly by wire, after swapping from the 2017 africa twin, to be terrible. Even in touring mode, its way too sensitive which leads to lurching back and forth at times.
Sorry Dan. I part watched on the way to work. I think like you that Honda should have sorted this. You shouldn't really have to be re mapping the throttle on a new bike imo
@@Leroyjenkinsjnr Ah no worries at all, I really appreciate you taking the time to watch it. It sure was really snatchy in power mode 1. On roundabouts it was very bad. Although I've heard from some owners saying there's are fine!
I'm torn between the manual version of one of these or a triumph tiger 900 gt pro. Tiger is better spec, but that Africa twin engine..! Also i like the looks of the honda, but I'd choose the shiny black over this matt grey.
Good review as always but it’s a shame that so-called Touring bikes are being given less bhp than their predecessors. I’ve got a 2007 Honda Blackbird with about 163bhp…..now that’s definitely a decent amount of power to haul a full load.
@@Englishbikerdan i can understand that as bikes technology has progressed in leaps & bounds over the last decade. Maybe your reviews are making me want a more up to date bike. Keep up the good work & ride safely.
Thanks for the review. Pity Australia is not getting Panniers, nor heated grips as standard. Nor are we getting the white colour option. Apart from that it sounds like a worthy replacement for the ST1100 tourer in the Honda line-up.
In Australia it's also AUD 5,000/GBP 3,000 more than the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX and Suzuki GSX-S1000GT. Not going to sell many here in Oz unless they knock at least $5k off the price.
When rumours of a Honda sport tourer were going around I was so hoping this was going to be a traditional sport tourer with the CB1000 engine. As you say, this is an ADV with a road fairing. Also, those panniers look really slim.
@@Englishbikerdan exactly, it’s not what the rumours said it might be unfortunately. If it’s selling well then who am I to argue with Honda though? However the Ninja 1000sx is Kwaks best seller in the UK and I expect to see lots of Suzukis new GT.
Easy comparison of the key features of the selected bikes with links to bikeend.com video reviews. By the way, I dare to recommend the Lone Wolf channel (although it's in Russian - you can watch it with subtitles) - Great reviewer.
Some reviews have been critical of the NT’s “version” of the DCT. Given my needs and wants, I’d be willing to buy the NT, personally untested. But, I rode early versions of the DCT and hated it, rode the latest version and liked it - a lot. So . . . I really want to know if the NT’s DCT is as evolved as the most recent Africa Twin, or NOT.
I believe the AT has the latest iteration of the DCT software, unlike the NT. However, it should still be pretty good. The latest software takes lean angles account and needs input from the 6-axis EMU (which the NT unfortunately doesn't have).
@@Englishbikerdan Great - just the informed opinion I’m looking forward to hearing. I’m really interested in hearing about the difference between the latest Africa Twin’s DCT and the NT’s version. I found early versions had “inappropriate” gear shifts while latest version offers almost eerily intuitive shifting. Looking forward to the review!
Yeah these are the problems with this brand new bike, when comparing it to the africa twin: - no 6 axis IMU - no electronic suspension Further its a bit heavy and bulky for a sports tourer... if you mount the side bags, or buy DCT (or both), it weighs 250-260 kg. Same as a BMW GS. So I went for a better equipped sports tourer from another brand (dont even know if I would be able to buy the NT- availability here in mainland Europe is very limited, same as some other models from Honda...)
If you watch my video you'll see the weight isn't an issue, in fact it never crossed my mind at all during the ride. It doesn't 'need' an IMU either. In fact I thought it had one! :D The problem with many of todays customers is they get so caught up in the spec sheets, that they forget to just go ride a bike and see how it makes them feel. I don't consider the NT to be a sports tourer, I can't see anything in the marketing blurb where Honda think it's one. So I don't think I would compare it to the likes of the Ninja S1000SX or GSX-S1000GT, as to me it's not in the same category. It's kind of created it's own thing, and that seems to be working judging by sales.
Wow, I must really have a generation gap with my own generation; I absolutely adore the looks of it, especially the front. Don't know where I went wrong in life with my taste haha.
I don't think Honda work that way. I would say this bike rides almost as good as the V2, the engine actually has more grunt too. I can't help but feel disappointed by the Multistrada.
So this bike is a pig for a chain drive twin and most wont care as it is a sport tourer BUT Honda is ALSO coming next with a Cafe version of THIS base platform meaning it will get the same low 100hp and also inherit much of the pork I would be surprised if the Cafe version isnt still at least 490 if your lucky heavy lack luster sport bike.....kinda sad if you ask me cause you KNOW it COULD be 130 hp and 425llbs
It’s too cross over for a true st1300 replacement, not enough space in the luggage, the beauty of the st was you could get your full face, gloves , wet weather kit and boots in the other and still have room to spare, that screen just sucks, no shaft either this is the first Honda tourer I won’t get period, I hate to say it with the wing being out of the realm of most pockets I my just sadly have to go bmw
Agree! Would you consider it if it was belt drive? Weight save over shaft and practical/less cost/less maintenance than chain..I don’t know why it’s not on more bikes.
@@alanbarnes2920 no my mileage per month is 2500- 3200 miles work (mainly) and a bit of recreation , with belt life only 12000-14000 it’s not viable to huge mile munchers like shaft drive users
Just you as you only want a super bike to wheelies with show of with. I ride adventure bikes and tour bike for long rides. One super bike POS low life killed himself doing a wheelie in front of my loaded semi.
If I had a list of the top 100 bikes I would like to own. This ridiculous excuse for a motorcycle would not appear on the list. These will go dusty in dealer showrooms and not sell well in the UK.
@@FourIntoOne well all I can say they can't be selling much of anything else. I haven't found anyone who likes this bike or thinks that a 1100 twin is a good idea. Sounds like a load of Honda marketing department Bull shit to me. Do you know anyone that has bought one ? 🤔
@@Englishbikerdan who says ? Honda ? All marketing hype. When they have a shitter that isn't selling the marketing department goes into hyper drive to create interest. It's the oldest one in the book and works on mugs everytime
@@pggp273 Yes I do know someone who has bought one, I also have seen 3 or 4 around my local route, and the metrics I referred to are not marketing metrics they are the ACTUAL figure of sales etc for dealership (not public) consumption. I also know somebody who is about to PX his Africa twin for one as well. But what do I know.
Correction: This bike doesn't have a 6 axis IMU but it does have wheelie control. Seems I got confused with the Africa Twin! I also neglected to mention the 20L fuel tank, good for around 200 miles or so! Thanks for watching!
I think the wings on the front are an alternative to hand guards which would probably impact the fairing. Not for downforce.
@@DanTube2010 I see my humour escaped you. 😁
Do you know if forza 750 has 6 axis Imu?
I think this bike could be a contender for best all rounder of the year,I love it.✌
I exchanged my XADV and love it. The NT is sublime. I do 100 miles a day commute with my wife on the back and could not be happier. Tour Sport mode is epic. Urban mode for town. Easy to filter and very comfortable. Black with the voyager pack.
Actually this bike looks very nice in black. I rode the DCT version a week ago. Just like you said, very comfortable and nice to ride. I didn't find the throttle to be jerky. The suspension was nice. Will upload the video soon. Keep up bro.
Nice review…….I test rode this bike back in February and now own the NT1100 DCT Black…..absolutely love it !
Nice one Gary! Enjoy your new ride. 👍
The most honest review I've seen thankyou. As an FJR man, I was almost tempted by this, but soon realised I'd probably miss my electronic adjustable windshield, suspension and shaft drive 🤔
Having done a fair bit of touring, I am really tired of lubing the chain every 500 miles or so. That's like once every day or two if you're doing long distance touring. So, I agree this bike should have been designed with a shaft drive. It would be worth the extra weight and cost. I also will seriously miss the frunk feature of my NC750 X
@@RobertLeeLewisThe2nd I couldn't agree more. I've just got back from a 5000 mile trip to Norway. The FJR never missed a beat and no need to worry about chain maintenance.
Wish manufacturers would fit long front fenders to these touring aimed bikes,they don't look daft on these type of bikes and help to keep the rider cleaner and dryer and also make cleaning easier!
Also a shaft drive would of been nice!
I agree about the longer front fender.
I love the look of this bike. I love Hondas. Not available in the US though, which is so frustrating
It’s a puzzle that it’s not offered here, but I guess Honda America is chasing Africa Twin and Goldwing sales. This is almost an ST1300 replacement? Probably the perfect application for this engine though?
@@jamescoll130 yeah. i am puzzled too. it a good old fashion sports tourer
I rode the manual (black) with QS for a whole day while my 500x was in for a service. I really liked it. Really really liked it - so much so that it is a serious contender instead of the Africa Twin that I have my heart set on.
Exactly the same here. Thinking of Africa Twin after my CB500X and I'm trying desperately to avoid the vortex that inevitably leads to the GS. Still not convinced about the AT to be honest, and if the NT had shaft drive I may be able to finally end the calling of the GS!
@@paulyflyer8154 thankfully I have done the GS/GSA thing. They are expensive, ugly (IMHO) and as ubiquitous now as washing machines or fridges - and they are not as reliable or as well built as you might think. These days I will take the AT every time.
Nice Review Dan. I am not the biggest fan of big touring bikes but I do like the look of the NT1100. Love the engine sound. I do agree that the switch gear needs backlighting. Surely that can be a thing by everyone now right so can be the phone connectivity, wirless connection has been around for a little while so that would be a benefit rather than using a cable :)
My cheap Kymco Agility 300 scooter has wireless connection thru bluetooth (as standard)and Noodoe App on my android phone. Surely Honda is up to the challenge. Bet they have it on 2023 model.
I would rather have the cable, actually, so that my phone stays charged. It wouldn’t last long on wireless, with GPS on…
The main issue which many reviewers have mentioned about the V Strom 1050 was the windshield. They all complained about the fact that the rider must dismount for making the windshield adjustments. But when it comes abut a Honda it doesn't seem to be an issue at all, even though the windshield adjustment is more difficult to be done at the NT....
I mention this about the NT in this very video. The issue with the VStrom is that it could have been so easily fixed to be able to do it on the bike.
Very good review Dan. Covered a lot of good detail omitted by others. As a shorter rider I appreciate your focus on seat height and ergonomics. Would have liked to see how well you flat footed with both feet down. I'm in the market for this type and size of bike. But here in the States the NT1100 is not available. Nevertheless, I'm interested in your preferences on the following bikes on my short list:
Ignoring price, looks, and electronic features (which vary among bikes), which of the following bikes do you prefer, and your order of preference, based on overall riding experience and fun factor:
Triumph Tiger 900 GT
Triumph Tiger Sport 660
Honda NT1100
Suzuki GSX S1000 GT
Ducati Multistrada V2S
Thanks
Have you already ruled out the Tiger 850 Sport and the BMW F750GS?
@@brothersoulshine The Tiger 850 Sport is a slightly de-tuned lower spec version of the 900, so if I go in that direction, I'll go for the more up-spec 900 GT. I rode the F800 GT a few years ago and didn't like it - too vibey, too far leaned forward. I may have mistakenly assumed the F750GS would be similar.
I'm late to the party, but now own this beauty! I love it....... erm..... so there!!
I am now trying to choose between a Honda NT 1100 and V Strom 1050 (2024), what are your opinions?
I think the colour grey perfectly sums up the bike and Honda's attitude to bikes at the moment.
Solid, reliable and fun? 🤔
@@Englishbikerdan They have always been solid and reliable. So are my 1990s Trophys. As to fun; my Ural is fun. My Ducatis and Moto Guzzis bring something to the party. My BMWs plough a different furrow and are to be given credit for it. I am not saying that Hondas are poor bikes; far from it, but if you look at the Japanese brands it is as though they have almost given up on trying to move things on and are content on putting their older designs in new clothes. If it brings them commercial success in the long term then all credit to them, but I am reminded a little of the demise of the British bike industry which had a similar philosophy albeit out of lack of resources. (Suzuki now?)
Looks of it are certainly my cup of tea! ❤️
Seems like a more sensible, less shouty version of the BMW S100XR, the front does look a bit too XADV, a bit snakey, but overall o think it looks great 👌🏻, that engine is superb fun too
Top review. Nice bike but I'd still go for the CRF1100. Hats off to Honda though for their New Touring approach, i'm sure the next one will be even more impressive 😎
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Would you say this bike is suitable for someone who is 5'5?
Great review, thank you.
Been pondering my next GT bike, you just un-sold me. Will keep looking. appreciate it, thx.
I would always recommend you ride something and decide for yourself. All my vids are my opinion.
@@Englishbikerdan Absolutely agree. Was looking to trade my 1200GS, but the change over was ridiculous. Was a honda man before the GS. Not keen on the accelerator comment and a few other small things you mention would annoy me. But I still really appreciate your honesty and relaxed sytle in this review. Cheers
Nice video I love the blacked out visor look u suit it very well I have got one for my helmet now and it's great riding along being hidden away from the outside wold it just gives you a bit of a break from everyone and everything! 👍😀
Absolutely, makes you feel anonymous!
is it stable until top speed?
The CBF1000 was a sports tourer 17 years ago with 100hp and 100Nm of torque at about the same weight, and a seat height were you can get your feet flat on the ground. For reference at release it was just over £5K. Progress, eh? I don’t know why bike manufacturers don’t look again at belt drive. Chain drive on this style of bike just feels wrong, it seems shaft drive is now deemed to be too expensive/heavy, but a belt is as cheap as a chain, usually lasts longer and has the least driveline lash of any drive mechanism. Ultimately it will sell as it is a Honda but I couldn’t never get off, walk away, look back and think “that’s a great looking bike”. It resembles a scooter.
I've never ridden the old CBF1000 but like I always say, don't live in the spec sheet. I'd be willing to bet the NT handles much better than the old CBF.
@@Englishbikerdan you’d be surprised how well the CBF handles. It’s more likely that the brakes are a little firmer and extra gizmos like traction control, quick shifter etc. are definitely signs of progress, but that balances with euro emissions regs making it harder for manufacturers to make cleaner engines whilst maintaining power levels and fuelling. Taking into account inflation the CBF would cost £8K now…
I have the CBF 1000 it's a fantastic all rounder that is deceptively quick and with full luggage can make a great tourer..... The price of this bike is to high... It should be 10k max.. we just get rinsed in the uk
Great review Dan. I'm interested but can't get a test ride.
Good video.. comment is to help with algorithm!! Keep up the great 👍 work!
Thanks Ian! 👍
This…actually looks good to my eye. And I have no love for parallel twins.
Basically an Africa Twin Adventure Sport with luggage and more plastic... I'll pass. Good review though! I absolutely love my AT! If anyone is in the market for a touring bike, this would certainly be worth looking into. My Africa Twin is an amazing bike when riding two-up. It took my wife a little while to get used to being so high up when riding pillion, but now that she's used to it she loves how smooth the bike rides. I'm sure this bike rides the same when taking a passenger just as you said.
Yeah exactly that. Although I think the AT is quite plastic fantastic too! My review of the 2022 AT is coming next! 😁
Great review as always how would you compare this to the new tracer 9
Thanks Tony. Sadly Yamaha's are almost impossible to ride for me.
I recently contacted the Yam agency about you getting access to their bikes..any progress Dan..did it help?!
@@alanbarnes2920 Hi Alan, I got invited to their off-road centre opening but I think that was just coincidental timing. However, I really appreciate the effort. And now I have a name at Potski who I can bother about some Yamaha press bikes. Fingers crossed!
I think this cost about the same as the Suzuki gsx1000 gt. Do you think it compares?
Hmm, in some senses yes, but I found the Suzuki to be a more sporty offering.
Yeah around 50 more horsepower with 100cc less and double the cylinders.
I'm curious about how something like that would stack up in every way against the new GSX-S1000GT. I think from past experience I will always prefer a 4 cylinder to a twin, but the riding position on the Honda might be better for a taller rider? As far as looks go I'd take the Suzuki every time over that Honda though.
Suzuki was definitely less comfortable, the NT was bliss for hours.
Any thoughts on why Honda didn't adopt the ever-so-popular "frunk" design found in the NC750? (Fuel stored in a cell under the seat, providing lower center of gravity and freeing up space for your helmet in the frunk where the fuel tank is normally located.)
And, why didn't we get a shaft drive on a bike this size intended for touring? I'd pay extra not to have to lube the chain after every 10 hours or so of riding! (Yes, chain lubing every 500 miles is recommended. What a pain when touring!)
A French guy posted a UA-cam review after 3000kms ride, he haven't needed to lube nor readjust the chain.
it's not a frunk it's a "glove box" and perfect amount of storage for any trip to the shops 😭
@@bangbang93i A glove box that fits a full-face modular helmet along with the gloves.
Clearly the Corolla of the bike world. As innocuous as a cardigan.
What do you keep clicking with your left hand? I thought it was DCT almost for a moment.
I'm really trying to decide between a NC750X and NT1000 both DCT. I have the NC on already but they release this after.
I'm in Asia and worry about squeezing by in traffic with the NT as it's so much wider.
Probably the indicator cancel button!
@@Englishbikerdan Not sure why I didn't even think of that haha, omg.
@@sohantanna625 Haha, I press it constantly. It's like a weird tick I have!
Great review!
Nice review! I was very interested in this bike when I saw it at the NEC show last December and had a test ride as soon as the local dealer got one. I agree completely about the jerky throttle, particularly in low gears. All reviews I’ve seen of the DCT version don’t mention this, so maybe it’s only an issue with the manual gearbox. For me it was a show stopper. I also found the switch gear very ‘busy’. After an hour and a half riding the bike I was still having to look down to find the indicator switch and also inadvertently selected high beam several times due the edge of my glove rubbing against the switch.
What would you prefer this or a V-Strom 1050 DL?
V-Strom. Even the older one tbh.
@@Englishbikerdan That would be my choice too. The 1000 version.
I think it looks awesome
Nice review, any vibes at speed?
It felt reasonable to me vibes wise. Thanks for watching. 👍
The description settings for power is odd and runs contrary to the XADV? I understand that more "bars lit" means more intervention. As in traction control or ABS or engine braking more segments more intervention. But for "power" in the XADV it would seem more bars lit is greater throttle sensitivity and well,,, more power. In the XADV default modes of sport and gravel the default factory setting has all segments lit which means "most power" not more intervention or less power. XADV 1 segment of power (rain) is less power and 3 segments is more power not more intervention as in the other selections? How strange the approach to this would be different between two similar Honda models with DCT. Hmmmm,,,,,
I think it’s great value but it hasn’t got a fancy IMU (I may be wrong), I sadly found the Multi V2S a lot more desirable..and expensive but I think it was worth the extra.
You are correct, see my pinned comment! 😂
I would prefer it with 19' front wheel.
Great review!
That would be called the Africa Twin.
Can i ask how you found the throttle. I find the fly by wire, after swapping from the 2017 africa twin, to be terrible. Even in touring mode, its way too sensitive which leads to lurching back and forth at times.
I cover this at length in the video. 👍
Sorry Dan. I part watched on the way to work. I think like you that Honda should have sorted this. You shouldn't really have to be re mapping the throttle on a new bike imo
@@Leroyjenkinsjnr Ah no worries at all, I really appreciate you taking the time to watch it. It sure was really snatchy in power mode 1. On roundabouts it was very bad. Although I've heard from some owners saying there's are fine!
I'm torn between the manual version of one of these or a triumph tiger 900 gt pro. Tiger is better spec, but that Africa twin engine..! Also i like the looks of the honda, but I'd choose the shiny black over this matt grey.
I want one.....wondering if it could replace my VFR1200F? Hmm
Didn't think the nt had lean sensitive abs and traction control
Now that you've said that, I'm not sure either!
Good review as always but it’s a shame that so-called Touring bikes are being given less bhp than their predecessors. I’ve got a 2007 Honda Blackbird with about 163bhp…..now that’s definitely a decent amount of power to haul a full load.
I've ridden the 98 and 99 Bird. This knocks spots of it in terms of handling.
@@Englishbikerdan i can understand that as bikes technology has progressed in leaps & bounds over the last decade. Maybe your reviews are making me want a more up to date bike. Keep up the good work & ride safely.
Thanks for the review. Pity Australia is not getting Panniers, nor heated grips as standard. Nor are we getting the white colour option. Apart from that it sounds like a worthy replacement for the ST1100 tourer in the Honda line-up.
Thanks for watching, shame you won't get all the bells and whistles.
In Australia it's also AUD 5,000/GBP 3,000 more than the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX and Suzuki GSX-S1000GT. Not going to sell many here in Oz unless they knock at least $5k off the price.
At least you'regetting it there. I'm in California and can only look at it from afar. Will the States ever get it? Hmm!
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How tall and heavy are you?
Your look on the ducati... priceless :D
BTW maybe it's time to change those gloves? :)
Hehe, glad someone noticed the face. Gloves are fine, the worn bit is just the touchscreen friendly tips, which offer no protection.
But would you buy one Dan?
Probably not. But there's loads of good bikes I wouldn't buy because I can't buy everything I like! :D
When rumours of a Honda sport tourer were going around I was so hoping this was going to be a traditional sport tourer with the CB1000 engine. As you say, this is an ADV with a road fairing.
Also, those panniers look really slim.
Ah it's not a sporty tourer though. Would be good to see something from Honda in that category as you say! 👍
@@Englishbikerdan exactly, it’s not what the rumours said it might be unfortunately. If it’s selling well then who am I to argue with Honda though? However the Ninja 1000sx is Kwaks best seller in the UK and I expect to see lots of Suzukis new GT.
An updated CBF1000 then?
Interesting, maybe - but the roads you tested this bike on aren't really this bikes stamping grounds, are they?
I always look for the more interesting, less congested routes. I'd hate to just sit on motorways.
...is that a full 'qwerty' keyboard on the left bar?
Almost! :D
Yes, that and the very obvious (to me) mistake of it not being back-lit.
100 HP for this bike and 150 for the gsxs1000 gt but realistically does anyone need more power than this bike has?
100-120bhp is about the most I'd want on the road.
"aiemd at the older generation of rider"
I'm 22, dammn hahaha
dct nt1100 for motorway and around town or tracer 9 gt?
Easy comparison of the key features of the selected bikes with links to bikeend.com video reviews. By the way, I dare to recommend the Lone Wolf channel (although it's in Russian - you can watch it with subtitles) - Great reviewer.
Am not interested in grandpa bikes but just like learning what people like about these bikes
Never underestimate grandpa bikers!
Some reviews have been critical of the NT’s “version” of the DCT. Given my needs and wants, I’d be willing to buy the NT, personally untested. But, I rode early versions of the DCT and hated it, rode the latest version and liked it - a lot. So . . . I really want to know if the NT’s DCT is as evolved as the most recent Africa Twin, or NOT.
I believe the AT has the latest iteration of the DCT software, unlike the NT. However, it should still be pretty good. The latest software takes lean angles account and needs input from the 6-axis EMU (which the NT unfortunately doesn't have).
My AT DCT review is coming next week. 👍
@@Englishbikerdan Great - just the informed opinion I’m looking forward to hearing. I’m really interested in hearing about the difference between the latest Africa Twin’s DCT and the NT’s version. I found early versions had “inappropriate” gear shifts while latest version offers almost eerily intuitive shifting. Looking forward to the review!
In rain mode has 3 level preselected for engine power??????
Listen to my comments at this point, as I explain that. :)
Fit a shaft drive to the bike and I might be interested.
This is kind of like an upspec nc750.
a "comfort seat" option
can you review the CFMoto 700CL-X Heritage?
I can ask CF Moto. Cheers.
I would buy the Africa Twin….
Yeah these are the problems with this brand new bike, when comparing it to the africa twin:
- no 6 axis IMU
- no electronic suspension
Further its a bit heavy and bulky for a sports tourer... if you mount the side bags, or buy DCT (or both), it weighs 250-260 kg. Same as a BMW GS.
So I went for a better equipped sports tourer from another brand (dont even know if I would be able to buy the NT- availability here in mainland Europe is very limited, same as some other models from Honda...)
If you watch my video you'll see the weight isn't an issue, in fact it never crossed my mind at all during the ride. It doesn't 'need' an IMU either. In fact I thought it had one! :D The problem with many of todays customers is they get so caught up in the spec sheets, that they forget to just go ride a bike and see how it makes them feel. I don't consider the NT to be a sports tourer, I can't see anything in the marketing blurb where Honda think it's one. So I don't think I would compare it to the likes of the Ninja S1000SX or GSX-S1000GT, as to me it's not in the same category. It's kind of created it's own thing, and that seems to be working judging by sales.
I'd be really tempted...if it weren't for the looks
You've heard that before eh? 😂
@@Englishbikerdan don't make me come over there
@@cookiebob_ 😋
@@cookiebob_ Also, that's what she said!
Wow, I must really have a generation gap with my own generation; I absolutely adore the looks of it, especially the front. Don't know where I went wrong in life with my taste haha.
This or the gsxs1000gt?
Suzuki for me.
I think they are about the same price
finally !
CB 1000 F replacement.
So Honda's response to the Ducati Multistrada ... I'll take the Ducati
I don't think Honda work that way. I would say this bike rides almost as good as the V2, the engine actually has more grunt too. I can't help but feel disappointed by the Multistrada.
So this bike is a pig for a chain drive twin and most wont care as it is a sport tourer BUT Honda is ALSO coming next with a Cafe version of THIS base platform meaning it will get the same low 100hp and also inherit much of the pork I would be surprised if the Cafe version isnt still at least 490 if your lucky heavy lack luster sport bike.....kinda sad if you ask me cause you KNOW it COULD be 130 hp and 425llbs
It’s too cross over for a true st1300 replacement, not enough space in the luggage, the beauty of the st was you could get your full face, gloves , wet weather kit and boots in the other and still have room to spare, that screen just sucks, no shaft either this is the first Honda tourer I won’t get period, I hate to say it with the wing being out of the realm of most pockets I my just sadly have to go bmw
Agree! Would you consider it if it was belt drive? Weight save over shaft and practical/less cost/less maintenance than chain..I don’t know why it’s not on more bikes.
@@alanbarnes2920 no my mileage per month is 2500- 3200 miles work (mainly) and a bit of recreation , with belt life only 12000-14000 it’s not viable to huge mile munchers like shaft drive users
Honda. Good engines. Terrible UX.
That redundant dash is weird….
Is it just me or this does bike look very boring?
Not everyone wants a streetfighter or speed look on a bike. Take it as a long road suv with a bit of a v8 grunt and lots of room and comfort.
It's just you.
Just you as you only want a super bike to wheelies with show of with. I ride adventure bikes and tour bike for long rides. One super bike POS low life killed himself doing a wheelie in front of my loaded semi.
Here in the in the US the dealers lobbied honda not import the NT1100. If honda does import to the US if it was belt driven.
Oh what’s the word I for it, let me think hmmm that’s it - average
'Touring bike'? Needs a belt or shaft, I hate chains. Just saying.
It doesn't need either to go touring. 😉
Once you get to this size just buy a car
If I had a list of the top 100 bikes I would like to own. This ridiculous excuse for a motorcycle would not appear on the list. These will go dusty in dealer showrooms and not sell well in the UK.
And yet, they are selling really well!
Whoops. Fail. They are currently Hondas best seller according to the official metrics I have seen at my local (UK) Honda dealer.
@@FourIntoOne well all I can say they can't be selling much of anything else. I haven't found anyone who likes this bike or thinks that a 1100 twin is a good idea. Sounds like a load of Honda marketing department Bull shit to me. Do you know anyone that has bought one ? 🤔
@@Englishbikerdan who says ? Honda ? All marketing hype. When they have a shitter that isn't selling the marketing department goes into hyper drive to create interest. It's the oldest one in the book and works on mugs everytime
@@pggp273 Yes I do know someone who has bought one, I also have seen 3 or 4 around my local route, and the metrics I referred to are not marketing metrics they are the ACTUAL figure of sales etc for dealership (not public) consumption. I also know somebody who is about to PX his Africa twin for one as well. But what do I know.