I’d say no imo only because frieza was born with 120 mill power level and trained 4 months to reach blue level then after he died again he trained his mind and was able to match blue full power goku after goku black arc copy vegeta us6 tournament and toppo exhibition. Now he trained ten days in the hyperbolic time chamber and one shotted goku and vegeta in their ultra forms fully healed.
If we're being real, the way they set things up when Beerus was introduced, Frieza should be stronger than him. Heck, Frieza trained for 4 months, and surpassed the Androids, Cell, Buu, Super Saiyan 1-3, SSG, and SSB. 10 years should make him stronger than Beerus. Unfortunately they keep rectonning Beerus' strength to make him an unattainable goal.
Beerus is definitely and will always be stronger than frieza or any villain they come out with and the z fighters because akira toriyama stated he doesn’t have any plans for goku and vegeta to surpass him at all. Beerus would kill frieza if he wanted to
The anime and manga are completely different continuities so your statement on anime goku being weaker than beerus is invalid. MUI anime goku ≠ MUI manga goku. Though in manga yeah they could not handle beerus but frieza definitely surpassed him in feats alone. You have no clue what you are talking about, and don't understand the narrative. also, You are stretching a dumb statement by the oracle fish to prove your horrible argument.
I understand that anime Goku and manga Goku aren't equal I was just trying to say that MUI Goku was supposed to be a power near Beerus and the other Gods. But at the end of the day Beerus is still stronger than Frieza. We'll see soon enough who has a dumb argument. When Frieza's power is confirmed i'll comment again and we'll talk.
@WolfFang Alright but at the end of the day, your argument still isnt valid to this. How many times has Akira Toriyama retconned himself? Its bound to happen so your argument is flawed, since you are talking sbout a writer who does not care about the things he said before. He said in battle of gods that Goku and Vegeta would never surpass beerus, yet in dbs anime, they are well beyond him in terms of scaling. So many guides also backs up that claim, its just much more evidence that Akira Toriyama statements should be taken much less serious as the story progresses but should be taken serious in the moment.
Whole video besides the last 30 seconds are worthless tbh. Whis would only sense Black Frieza when he oneshoted TUI and UE, even if that power was below Beerus’s, it wouldn’t matter as that’s clearly not Frieza’s full power. As Frieza knows of fusion, knows of UI and he let them live, meaning that Frieza thinks he can beat their Fusion, even he’s underestimating that Fusion, he would still be confident he can beat someone at least hundreds of times above Goku or Vegeta. Oracle Fish argument is also mid? Goku and Vegeta becoming Beerus’s biggest rivals doesn’t mean that Frieza cannot rival or surpass Beerus right now. Rivaling is often defined as competing, Frieza doesn’t care about Beerus, he only wants to beat Goku and Vegeta as of now. Beerus isn’t interested in Frieza too, so i don’t know why these two would be rivals. Best scaling for Beerus right now is arguing that same condition that applied to Granolah’s wish would apply to Gas and therefore u can get Beerus>Gas but that’s all
For the NPCS who still believe Gohan is stronger than Goku and Vegeta and the NPCS who think that black Frieza can beat Beerus plz debate me right now, u complete disgrace to the DB community...
Is gohan's potential higher than frieza's?
I’d say no imo only because frieza was born with 120 mill power level and trained 4 months to reach blue level then after he died again he trained his mind and was able to match blue full power goku after goku black arc copy vegeta us6 tournament and toppo exhibition. Now he trained ten days in the hyperbolic time chamber and one shotted goku and vegeta in their ultra forms fully healed.
@@alikacrawford6866 not 10 days its 10 years
@@Mvp_Master_OGhe said ten days in the time chamber
Beerus is probably sleeping when he gets killed by Freeza
If we're being real, the way they set things up when Beerus was introduced, Frieza should be stronger than him. Heck, Frieza trained for 4 months, and surpassed the Androids, Cell, Buu, Super Saiyan 1-3, SSG, and SSB. 10 years should make him stronger than Beerus.
Unfortunately they keep rectonning Beerus' strength to make him an unattainable goal.
Beerus is definitely and will always be stronger than frieza or any villain they come out with and the z fighters because akira toriyama stated he doesn’t have any plans for goku and vegeta to surpass him at all. Beerus would kill frieza if he wanted to
The anime and manga are completely different continuities so your statement on anime goku being weaker than beerus is invalid. MUI anime goku ≠ MUI manga goku. Though in manga yeah they could not handle beerus but frieza definitely surpassed him in feats alone. You have no clue what you are talking about, and don't understand the narrative. also, You are stretching a dumb statement by the oracle fish to prove your horrible argument.
I understand that anime Goku and manga Goku aren't equal I was just trying to say that MUI Goku was supposed to be a power near Beerus and the other Gods. But at the end of the day Beerus is still stronger than Frieza. We'll see soon enough who has a dumb argument. When Frieza's power is confirmed i'll comment again and we'll talk.
@WolfFang Alright but at the end of the day, your argument still isnt valid to this. How many times has Akira Toriyama retconned himself? Its bound to happen so your argument is flawed, since you are talking sbout a writer who does not care about the things he said before. He said in battle of gods that Goku and Vegeta would never surpass beerus, yet in dbs anime, they are well beyond him in terms of scaling. So many guides also backs up that claim, its just much more evidence that Akira Toriyama statements should be taken much less serious as the story progresses but should be taken serious in the moment.
@@innerhollow4554 So do you think Frieza is stronger than Beerus?
Whole video besides the last 30 seconds are worthless tbh.
Whis would only sense Black Frieza when he oneshoted TUI and UE, even if that power was below Beerus’s, it wouldn’t matter as that’s clearly not Frieza’s full power. As Frieza knows of fusion, knows of UI and he let them live, meaning that Frieza thinks he can beat their Fusion, even he’s underestimating that Fusion, he would still be confident he can beat someone at least hundreds of times above Goku or Vegeta.
Oracle Fish argument is also mid?
Goku and Vegeta becoming Beerus’s biggest rivals doesn’t mean that Frieza cannot rival or surpass Beerus right now. Rivaling is often defined as competing, Frieza doesn’t care about Beerus, he only wants to beat Goku and Vegeta as of now. Beerus isn’t interested in Frieza too, so i don’t know why these two would be rivals.
Best scaling for Beerus right now is arguing that same condition that applied to Granolah’s wish would apply to Gas and therefore u can get Beerus>Gas but that’s all
Okay, but at the end of the day do you think Frieza is stronger than Beerus?
@@WolfFang28yep, he's stronger until further notice.
For the NPCS who still believe Gohan is stronger than Goku and Vegeta and the NPCS who think that black Frieza can beat Beerus plz debate me right now, u complete disgrace to the DB community...
Akira toriyama stated beast gohan is now the strongest out ofthe z fighters
@@DespairMisery he didn't. He said "or so they say" that isn't a complete confirmation.
Those who don't believe Beast gohan is the strongest are probably the real NPCs
@@Mvp_Master_OG lmao. Spoken like a true puddlehan fan.
@@TinglyCauliflower thanks