The CAA has DESTROYED the UK Drone Industry?

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  • @tonydoyle4903
    @tonydoyle4903 Місяць тому +6

    I feel flattered. I am one of the 706 OA holders who has just been audited by CAA, in a process involving having to re-submit the same information when the first submission was questioned by the auditor.

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому +3

      Well, that seems like a perfectly backwards way to audit 🙄. We need to get you a protected species certificate too!

    • @pdfp24
      @pdfp24 Місяць тому +1

      My organisation is one of the 706 and we were audited too,both desktop and in person at one of our operations. Surprisingly it was very straight forward and relatively painless.

  • @Guide504
    @Guide504 Місяць тому +5

    When you over regulate and are unreasonable people just start to ignore the regulator.

    • @JayStoneCreative
      @JayStoneCreative Місяць тому +2

      seeing it happen waaaay to often. Lots of crowd flyovers etc by cowboy drone ops. No repercussions from it either

  • @sUASNews
    @sUASNews Місяць тому +3

    I used to fully support the CAA having only has positive experiences with my crewed stuff. But year after year their innovation and regulations have become tied up in red tape and nonsense. I am glad you mentioned the vanity projects, Future Flight needs shutting down. Let the future sort itself out, Now Flight matters.

  • @RobR386
    @RobR386 Місяць тому +6

    I just fly and enjoy it, don't do anything stupid, check for any airspace restrictions beforehand, if all is good, just send it 😀

  • @FPVSteve
    @FPVSteve Місяць тому +3

    Spent £1250 on the DJI FPV when it came out, have performed 18 flights with it. The CAA killed the hobby for me - one I had been involved in before the CAA knew what it was.

    • @jamesi100
      @jamesi100 Місяць тому +1

      me too went from flying rc helecopters for over 30 years to a 65g foam p51 toy it`s just not worth the trouble at the moment

  • @PBob-le4qc
    @PBob-le4qc Місяць тому +12

    The last time a flew was when the Mini 2 came out, I did think about getting a drone again but the constant rule changes and tighter regulations I don't think it's worth the investment

    • @chriscole3624
      @chriscole3624 Місяць тому +4

      Same boat. I renew the operator ID every year, but feel it's too much hassle to actually fly my drone these days. Absolutely sucked any enjoyment out of it when your constantly on edge for fear of breaking a rule, being reported or hassled. I'd love one of the newer drones, but I'm not going to spend more money on a hobby that's being demonised.

    • @lindsayheyes925
      @lindsayheyes925 Місяць тому +2

      Every time I think of taking my drone on holiday I check the airspace and find so much National Trust, English Heritage, Forestry Commission or SSSI land that it's not worth packing it. I've videoed all the scenic stuff where I live, so I've gone from rising at 5 a.m. twice a week to get good footage to flying maybe once a month. It is utterly dispiriting that the only people having fun with drones now are the "auditors" and Ukrainians.

    • @raygeary1698
      @raygeary1698 Місяць тому

      Stop mine for same reason

  • @gmivisualsjason3729
    @gmivisualsjason3729 Місяць тому +20

    They don't wany hobbiests in the sky at all.

    • @ReallyVirtual
      @ReallyVirtual Місяць тому +4

      I agree. Between the CAA rules and local by-laws, there are very few places that one can legally fly. Your choice is over the sea, or if you own some land in the country over that. My last flight was in 2019. Loved it, but the new rule changes at that time meant that there were literally no legal places I could fly a Mavic Air in the Uk. I tended to find that where the CAA let me fly, the local by-laws prevented it.

    • @YUDNSAY
      @YUDNSAY Місяць тому

      Nailed.

  • @AirborneInsightsUK
    @AirborneInsightsUK Місяць тому +2

    At 22:28 about document revisions - in your OA application you need to ensure that your Ops Manual document revision history properly & correctly records all revisions - which is standard good practice. If you don't, you can get into re-review loops before your OM is approved. The CAA's ex-RAF top brass would not have been happy with aircraft safety related documents (safety cases, release-to-service, aircrew manuals, quick reference cards, operating data manuals, etc.) that don't have complete & correct revision histories.

  • @PhantomandtheDrone
    @PhantomandtheDrone Місяць тому +2

    Isn't this what the CAA really want though? The OA holder being large companies who just employ GVC holders to fly under them.

  • @lindsayheyes925
    @lindsayheyes925 Місяць тому +1

    What worries me is that it looks as if the CAA doesn't really care - and complacency is contagious, so it will spread to operators and flyers.

  • @MrSupergumpi
    @MrSupergumpi Місяць тому +6

    The reality is the CAA has become overbearing. The reality is a simple drone code for hobby users is ALL that is needed and sub 500g should be exempt of regulation for hobbyists. Simple competancy exams for sub 20kg and of course full UAS exams for commercial. The simple fact is the CAA are a bloated boys club with a hatred for drones with a wish to sell off the 400ft airspace to the highest bidder is clear!

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Місяць тому +1

      I would argue that you shouldn’t need full exams for commercial either. It should depend on what you want to do. If it is just commercial photography, flying similarly to how an amateur hobbyist photographer could then maybe at most an online course like the A2 CofC. Most commercial drone work is just using it as a flying camera.
      If it is large agricultural or delivery drones or flying outside of what a hobbyist would do then yeah they should need extra qualifications. For inspection type jobs though it should be up to the employer, if a power company wants to hire a drone pilot to inspect power lines then it should be up to the power company which qualifications they require outside of base CAA ones since it is their power lines.

  • @MrMikeydrum
    @MrMikeydrum Місяць тому +1

    if you think like the CAA, just remove 250g and make a 125g, move the goal posts.

  • @MJF510
    @MJF510 Місяць тому +1

    Saw this coming years ago, when the CAA cannot get there own rules together we have no hope of this ever being an enjoyable hobby again.

  • @OzzySafa
    @OzzySafa Місяць тому +4

    What have we learnt from this.. The CAA do not proof read. (hopefully well have an updated document) Do not report any incidents as its used against the industry.. The system is flawed...

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Місяць тому +1

      The best option would be to only report when you absolutely have to, which for drone pilots would be almost none of the time. The reports may not come from the pilots themselves though, they could come from police or from other people involved.

  • @WhirlyBloke
    @WhirlyBloke Місяць тому +2

    The irony is they'll pick up any small discrepancies in the amendments table in my OM and send it back for change and resubmission, but they can't do it with their own documents. Utterly bizarre and unprofessional. But I keep on going with the other 705.

  • @JayStoneCreative
    @JayStoneCreative Місяць тому +2

    Thing is, 99% of problems within the drone industry come from those who think they are above the "law", fly without PLI, permissions, over crowds etc. And when caught, literally nothing is ever done. This is the bigger issue, no deterrent for those who break the rules, so why do people even bother to follow them if they all get away with it. Its a real shame as i expect those in this comment thread are all sensible etc.

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  26 днів тому +1

      I think the level of enforcement is increasing and we are seeing more cases go through the courts of the worst drone users. The upcoming fixed penalty fines will also bring a more instant and easy way to fine poor behaviour. I predict that will change things.

    • @adcraziness1501
      @adcraziness1501 24 дні тому

      I think the problem is commercial drone delivery services want recreational flyers out of the skies so they can move in with their unsustainable services. We can obey rules till we are blue in the face, it won't stop what is happening.

  • @Shadowspawn66
    @Shadowspawn66 Місяць тому +2

    Could it also be people who had been yearly renewing PFCO-based OAs but now have to re-train to GVC?

  • @conorstewart2214
    @conorstewart2214 Місяць тому +3

    It would be good to get clarification on what they class as a serious incident. Even just looking at the numbers, only 5 serious incidents, that is practically none. How many people do you think are likely to get injured by golf balls? Or hit by cyclists or scooters on footpaths?

  • @CalmBiker
    @CalmBiker Місяць тому +6

    The CAA have a responsibility to grow drone use? With all of the constant changing of rules it's put me off. I still fly an original Mini (with the expectation that they will at some point tell me I can't for... ...reasons). I would love a more modern drone but I am not going to replace the Mini because the hobby just seems too much hassle. I'm already at the point where I only fly half a dozen times a year.

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому +2

      It is part of their mandate to support the industry side of drones to grow. Which then relates to the stats we analysed in the show in terms of Operational Authorisation holders. Sadly, they seem unable to focus much else than future flight and delivery drones.

    • @CalmBiker
      @CalmBiker Місяць тому

      @@Geeksvana I wonder if delivery drones are even viable yet. Lots of tech companies talking it up like they did with delivery robots on the ground but I suspect it's more about increasing their share price with hype than actually achieving it.

  • @BarrytheFish-d9c
    @BarrytheFish-d9c Місяць тому +3

    I quitted, any fun left was sucked dry

  • @AirborneInsightsUK
    @AirborneInsightsUK Місяць тому +1

    I have a Specific Category UKPDRA01 Operational Authorisation, but with the Open Category A2 CoC and ability to use 250g aircraft instead, I am not sure I would have gone beyond the A2 CoC to the GVC, paid for the OA and bought a Mavic 3E.

  • @adithompson199
    @adithompson199 Місяць тому +2

    If the CAA is so slack on this type of reporting, what are they like with reporting on all other aircraft's i.e. commercial aircraft!

  • @DP-Ops
    @DP-Ops Місяць тому +2

    Wow 706 GVC OA’s. The amount of drone law experts on the groups I’d have thought it was 706 million 🤷

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому

      I think all of those people were at Woodstock, too? 😂. I am probably showing my age and making an extremely out of date reference...

  • @westoncraig
    @westoncraig Місяць тому +1

    not flown for a few years now but have drones knocking about. Don't think i'll bother getting back into it now, seems like so much hassle

  • @Colin6712
    @Colin6712 Місяць тому +2

    What do you think about the USA banning DJI drones

  • @Guide504
    @Guide504 Місяць тому +1

    You either enjoy attending courses or actually running a business.
    I would make the point reporting will almost certainly be the govt agency pilots (police, fire e.t.c.)

  • @Feverstockphoto
    @Feverstockphoto Місяць тому +2

    You could do a freedom of information request for a list of specific information that you want, then compare.
    Is it a farse or a fudge or a bowl of mixed fruit with 110% apple? You do the math! 🙃🙂👍

    • @sUASNews
      @sUASNews Місяць тому +1

      It will be outside of the FOIA system. The CAA is facing a couple of drone FOIA legal interventions, they are not covering themselves in glory.

  • @december974
    @december974 Місяць тому +1

    Already got rid of mine too much red tape

  • @mattkingaby
    @mattkingaby Місяць тому

    There are a multitude of document build softwares out there that will automatically assign a new document number if anything has been changed.

  • @sUASNews
    @sUASNews Місяць тому +1

    AAIB accident and incident reporting needs a good look at, I know a man working on it.

  • @onemandrone
    @onemandrone Місяць тому +2

    My CAA PfCO number was 3515 I had enough because when the mini drones came out, I started to loose my work.

  • @amaglite
    @amaglite Місяць тому +1

    can anyone explain what i need for bvlos please , flown all drones in dji rane currently a mini 4 pro but looking at another inspire 3 for bvlos thanks.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Місяць тому +2

      I believe at this point there is nothing you can do to legally fly BVLOS. There have been proposals to allow BVLOS in certain situations where it has been planned and approved beforehand like for railway inspections but they are just proposals at this stage.
      So I may be wrong but just now I don’t think there is any way to fly BVLOS legally.
      Edit: what do you do where you have been able to fly all DJI’s drones? Do you just mean their consumer ones?

    • @eyeup
      @eyeup Місяць тому

      If I could step in here. BVLOS with visual observers (where the RP can't see the drone, but a visual observer located remotely can), is achievable in the Specific Category. You need an Operational risk Assessment in place, approved by the CAA and you will be subject to the higher levels of oversight this brings. Start by gaining a GVC and move on from there. It's not an easy route, but is possible. Forget "true" BVLOS, where nobody involved in the flight can see the UA, particularly with an Inspire.

  • @nickcastings1568
    @nickcastings1568 Місяць тому +3

    Haven’t flown my mavic for 2 years now, and a year and a half since I renewed my licence, even when I find somewhere to fly, too many jobsworths come and tell me I can’t fly!

  • @Tattvadarzin.
    @Tattvadarzin. Місяць тому +2

    I no longer fly my RC aircraft because of the CAA. I am not a multirotor flyer but proper aircraft

  • @YUDNSAY
    @YUDNSAY Місяць тому +2

    Wouldn't do to be seeing things 'they' don't want you to.....just sayin'....

  • @davidbeese4889
    @davidbeese4889 Місяць тому +2

    Sean can I fly mini 2 se on holiday in Tenerife got flyer ID and operator license. Read that I need easa license does this apply becouse drones under 249g. Hard to find out what’s true

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому +2

      Hi David! You will need to have EASA versions of the Operator and Flyer ID. The UK ones are not valid. If you watch this video, it will guide you through:
      ua-cam.com/video/ahz-NdmEzBc/v-deo.htmlsi=WsJrHyEzbJAwZbi-
      Hope you have a great holiday.

    • @davidbeese4889
      @davidbeese4889 Місяць тому

      @@Geeksvana I’ve looked on one site part 1 is free but takes to weeks to get

    • @davidbeese4889
      @davidbeese4889 Місяць тому

      @@Geeksvana hi Sean passed my easa today on the luxeburg page how do I get my operator ID can not find link

  • @pdfp24
    @pdfp24 Місяць тому +2

    It doesn’t surprise me that the number of OAs has dropped although I’m expecting to see an increase next year now that the PDRA01 system has been somewhat simplified.
    Our operations aren’t covered by PDRA 01 and the hassle of having to tweak and submit the OSC every year,wait,wait and then wait for some more for it to be reviewed before making the changes asked for in the oversight report (which are often frustratingly nit picky) fills me with dread every year!
    There have been several occasions where we very,very nearly didn’t get our OSC signed off and our OA back in time to fly big,financially beneficial jobs which our business needs to survive.

  • @Kefuddle
    @Kefuddle Місяць тому +2

    As a pilot caught up in that ridiculous drone event at Gatwick. It is clear drone operators have to be licenced and regulated. If it were possible to ensure that drones cannot be operated in specific areas and heights then that would be good, but we all know that somebody will hack them and remove the restrictions and upload that hacked firmware to the Web.

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому +2

      As a pilot caught up in the incident, I would expect you to be well read enough to know that there were never any drones at the Gatwick incident. It has been confirmed beyond any doubt. Zero evidence any drone was involved. It changed a lot of things, including how airports react to reports of incursions and verify them before they close any airspace.

    • @johndakin9466
      @johndakin9466 Місяць тому +1

      @@Kefuddle We have Rules & Regulations now that are neither enforced nor enforceable- so what is the point in having them ! The “Rules” fall into the same category as the BBC Tv licence nonsense ! Some pay - many don’t ! I am fed up paying out money to the CAA and Insurance companies- when I am constantly undercut on price by amateurs who have had neither training, qualifications nor insurance! There are the “blue chip” companies who pay “top dollar” - but they are getting fewer and long term customers are now seeking lower prices due to cheaper pricing offered by amateurs in the market place !

    • @Kefuddle
      @Kefuddle Місяць тому

      @@Geeksvana Yes, I heard of all the theories of a cover up for a terrorist event. Except for the photo taken by one of my colleagues of a drone over Lima from the bridge that connects piers 5 and 6.

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому

      @@Kefuddle the only drones operating in the area were police drones. Unless you do not accept the official reports of police and the airport. None of whom found any evidence of a nefarious drone.
      The police drones (and even the police helicppter) were found to be behind the subsequent sightings. In fact, the lights from a crane were even credited.

    • @Kefuddle
      @Kefuddle Місяць тому

      @@Geeksvana Oh for heavens sake. Okay mate. If that is what you want to believe.

  • @GhostWriter_Music
    @GhostWriter_Music Місяць тому +2

    is there any certificate I can get which will allow me to fly a dji air 3 or a mavic 3 pro within a built up residential area, and also closer than 50m to uninvolved people?

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому +1

      Hey! Yes. The A2 CofC will allow you to fly in congested areas with drones weighing a maximum of 2kg. It also allows you to fly in the A1 airspace with sub 500g drones too. Which is a nice extra bonus.

    • @GhostWriter_Music
      @GhostWriter_Music Місяць тому +1

      I thought the a2 cofc didn't allow drones weighing over 500g in residential built up areas, and also though you still had to keep 50m away?

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому

      @GhostWriter_Music yes 50m horizontal as is standard for larger drones but the A2 CofC is for legacy drones upto 2kg. Check the training company websites for the full details. The 500g benefit is for the A1 airspace.

    • @eyeup
      @eyeup Місяць тому

      If you want to get closer than 50m to uninvolved people in a residential area (i.e. not classed as recreational), and your drone is 500g+ then you are looking at getting a GVC, writing an Operational Risk Assessment, paying the CAA nearly £2k and gaining a reduced clearance OA. Cheaper and easier to fly sub 500g under A2CofC...or just buy a Mini 4 (other sub-250g drones are available).

    • @GhostWriter_Music
      @GhostWriter_Music Місяць тому

      @@eyeup is there a tether available for the mavic pro? or a telephoto lens for the mini 4 that you know of?

  • @noisy_boi_fpv_3920
    @noisy_boi_fpv_3920 Місяць тому +2

    More rules to break awesome

  • @mlatief5865
    @mlatief5865 Місяць тому +1

    I fully registered.
    to use in my garden. hahahah
    too complicated to explore.

  • @ramdonko6661
    @ramdonko6661 Місяць тому +1

    38:45 LOL classic :-)

  • @davefoton7738
    @davefoton7738 Місяць тому

    I'm a geek too. It's zed not zee and it's arithmatic not maths (calculus/trig etc). 😂

  • @BrokenNinja
    @BrokenNinja Місяць тому +4

    Please release regular videos, which are compact and such. Not shorts. Shorts are dumb and live streams require spending too much time looking for specific info etc

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому

      I release a range of different lengths and types. Some topic take a little more time to explain and discuss. It is not compulsory to watch them all (nor would I recommend it 😂)

  • @Dubjaxfilms
    @Dubjaxfilms Місяць тому +6

    What ?
    I have just bought a drone, I haven't even flown it yet, never flown one before.
    80% of what you guys were talking about might just as well been in Chinese, and I don't understand one word of Chinese, which makes this video about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike to me.

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому +3

      😂🤣 love the description. We have videos at all levels of user and therefore detail of information. The deeper dive regulation ones are a little more niche.

    • @rayfielding
      @rayfielding Місяць тому +2

      I can see where you coming from, it’s hard just to jump
      In. I went all the way back to their early posts. Learned about stuff like article 16, found it all really helpful. Yes this is really difficult if you looking for basics.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Місяць тому +2

      Okay? The video isn’t for you then. What’s the problem with that?
      The video is to give people an update and commentary on what the CAA is doing, if you aren’t up to date on the drone regulations and the CAA then it will likely be difficult to follow along with, that should be expected.
      If you have just bought a drone you should start with just learning what the regulations are without worrying about how the regulations are changing or the current state of the drone industry.

  • @ramdonko6661
    @ramdonko6661 Місяць тому

    otherwise, no idea :-)

  • @senseofadventure382
    @senseofadventure382 Місяць тому +2

    The Civil Aviation Authority in the UK.

  • @endah9692
    @endah9692 Місяць тому +3

    I'm in the 🇺🇸,,, what is the CAA ? Thanks

    • @tractor3826
      @tractor3826 Місяць тому +3

      It's the Civil Aviation Authority. The UK equivalent of your FAA.

    • @jwelbyeverard
      @jwelbyeverard Місяць тому

      Civil Aviation Authority

    • @mrngreenthumb
      @mrngreenthumb Місяць тому

      half power.

  • @endah9692
    @endah9692 Місяць тому

    👋

  • @johndakin9466
    @johndakin9466 Місяць тому +4

    The “rules” are not enforced nor enforceable - and are therefore “pointless”. In practice- the “rules” have been relegated to a “Code of Conduct” I originally had a PfCO - which became an OA - but I am not prepared to pay any monies to the CAA for qualifications that in practice are “pointless”. Therefore I continue to carry £5 million Public Liability Insurance . It ends there !

    • @Geeksvana
      @Geeksvana  Місяць тому +3

      Not sure it is wise to advertise that on social media with your name attached. Enforcement has significantly increased as the many people working their way through the court system will tell you.

    • @gabedude68
      @gabedude68 Місяць тому

      @@Geeksvana zero serious injuries. "many" court cases. aren't there more important uses for their resources?

    • @johndakin9466
      @johndakin9466 Місяць тому +1

      @@Geeksvana I comply with the rules 100% such as they are - but as for OA - A2CofC - Operations Manual - created 5 years ago - never opened it or read it since - etc - forget it !