@@DeathTollRacing I love the ratio's and the shifter feel & throw. I didn't realize they made PTO's for those. Very cool. I am trying to source one to put behind a 300hd I6 for a project
I like the tool joke where you can buy the special tool of a friend. Special tools might be cheaper if your friends are part fish when it comes to beer intake. I have been planning to rebuild my Nissan D21 hardbody 2.4L KA24E and 5 speed manual. It’s got 350k and it is all original and 55 mph top speed (45 mph happy speed) it is about that time. It is a family truck from my wife’s side and I daily it 3 miles round trip 6 days a week. She’s told me no V8 swap like I did in my last little truck it was a S10 with a SBC383 swap. Really like how you go in to the trans rebuild
Thanks! Those are cool little trucks. Especially with the 5 speed. Yeah, Shane is great for that because he can't drink due to health issues. So he's a really cheap one LOL. As for my trans video, I didn't want to clutter it with too much information like all the others I found. It just makes it seem harder than it really is. These are not bad to rebuild at all. But having a friend around really is nice.
I believe the gear ratio's are different between the 2. The PTO I have is specific to the gas zf6 and won't fit the diesel zf6 and vise versa is my understanding, but haven't compared the 2 to confirm.
Hello! Help me figure out the calculation of revolutions on the power take-off gear. Gearbox ZF s5-42 (5.72). In order to choose the right KOM and hydraulic pump, I need to know the number of revolutions that the power take-off gear makes. It is located on the intermediate shaft. It has 45 teeth on a gear ratio of 5.72 and 43 teeth on a gear ratio of 4.65. Do I understand correctly that it engages with the primary shaft, with that part of it on which there are 27 teeth on the gear ratio 5.72 and 29 teeth on the gear ratio 4.65? Then at 1000 revolutions of the motor it will have 600 revolutions at the gear ratio of 5.72 and 670 revolutions at the gear ratio of 4.65? or not? Thanks!
your math sounds correct. as far as I know the difference in ratio is specific for gas vs diesel zf's. I would think that you will set up your throttle up to get the proper rpm for your pump. Maybe this was the point since the gas would be at a higher rpm than the diesel. I honestly don't know for though. I've actually never added a pto to anything that didn't already have one, so I've never had to go down the path your on right now.
I had a 1994 F250HD 2wd regular cab 300-6 ZF heavy duty 5 speed and 4.10 axle ratio. Clutch slave failed and I was dealing with Lyme disease and I wasn’t feeling good enough to fix it,,, and I had to sell it 😥😥😥😥!! I’d love to find another one but with 4wd. Oh I miss that truck.
Oh yes. That is a fantastic setup. 300’s are one of my favorites and yet I don’t have one. Sorry to hear about you dealing with Lyme disease. That is something that many people don’t realize how much that can set you back.
Be nice to know if you’re able to install the input shaft seal from the outside rather than breaking the case in half to drive it from the inside. I’ve gotta do mine. Don’t feel like splitting the case if I don’t have to.
I did that a while ago, but I’m pretty sure you can get to that if you take the bearing retainer off. (The part the throw out slides on). When you assemble it you put it together from the other side, but I think it can be done from the front.
@@DeathTollRacing looks like the bearing shaft won’t come out from the outside for me to access the seal. Just dropped the transmission, and it looks like I’m going to have tear the trans apart to replace that seal.
Hopefully I didn't miss this, i watched the vid twice haha. What are you using for a speedometer in your '87? The tail housing looked like it had the provision for the speedo cable drive, but I didn't notice any drive gear on the output shaft? Was this case from a '91 later truck? I'm in the process of swapping a C6 for a ZF5 in a 2wd '88 truck. I cannot located any '90 or older cases that would have the mechanical speedo on the tail housing. Looking at parts break downs and replacement parts the output shaft is the same number for all 2wd ZF's s542s and s547s. Do you remember anything on the shaft though looked like it could have held a speedo drive gear???? Thanks for the vid, now I have no doubts about pulling one of these open!
I'm using a gps speedometer in that truck. If you get really desperate, Dakota digital makes a gps speed sender and a cable driver to run your existing speedometer. It may be cheaper in the long run. www.dakotadigital.com I put a cable driver part of that on another project. Heres the link to it; ua-cam.com/video/qgigtqBmwS4/v-deo.html
I have a zf5 and it’s stuck on one gear. I read that someone pulled off the main case and moved the shifter forks to the neutral position. Can you make a video of how to do that?
I don’t have one of these not in a truck right now. I’m trying to think why that would happen. 🤔 🤔🤔🤔. Im guessing it’s the lockout plate possibly broke, but I don’t know if that would make it stuck in gear or if it would just shift terrible
@@DeathTollRacing That's awesome! Thank you so much for following though on this. I have been looking for one for a minute now. I tried the Chelsea web site but all those specs are very confusing.
If I may ask one more question? Can you tell me the teeth count on the gear that contacts the counter shaft in the transmission. Have conflicting numbers, one is 34 and the other is 36.
They should have made a steel skeleton cage around the gear sets to alleviate the use of ra ratchet strap and add to the overall strength of the transmission!
Okay, so if your plate doesn't slide around, then someone may have put the wrong bolts in it. They should be a shoulder bolt, so the bolt tightens up on it's shoulder and not on the plate itself when you assemble it. They have a bigger shoulder than the threads. I hope that makes sense.
You can use a variety of methods as long as you blow it out real good afterwards. Parts washers are mineral spirits, or you can do it outside with a degreaser (engine cleaner) and a pressure washer. Once it’s degreased you can use an aluminum brightener to etch it and look like new again. Below is a link to the one I use. www.amazon.com/dp/B01M5CNZYU/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_glt_fabc_T19N12F0RAWP1CDG9H2C?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&linkCode=ml2&tag=deathtollraci-20
Funny. Around here it's the opposite. Especially on the coastal side of the state, which is where my truck and the transmission we just rebuilt came from. Maybe it's a Canadian thing? They were both Canadian Ford plant trucks.
I assume you’re talking about the end play between the bearings. We just assembled it with the same shims. If you’re not changing case parts, it should all go back the same. That was a really good catch on your part. When assembled there should be no noticeable end play and you shouldn’t have to squeeze it together. I think I may update this video with a new one with a more detailed one. It’s been decently popular. I want to convert that tow truck to 4x4 and will probably build a new zf for it again.
Short answer is yes, but the main shaft is different, and obviously the tail housing is different. If you don’t have access to a 4x4 version maybe look into a divorced np205 from a 70’s f250
@@DeathTollRacing ok thank u that’s looking like the route I will have to take hopefully I can have better luck finding the 205 divorced t case Easier than the 4x4 trans
Lots of these utube vids cleaning engines and Greesed up parts strait into the water table. Be carefull you don't get ya fine in the post after watching your video. Lol.
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ZF5 is my favorite transmission, never had to pull one apart though. Cool to see
When you look at the quality of ZF's from the inside, you can see why they are so well received. Very well built transmissions.
@@DeathTollRacing I love the ratio's and the shifter feel & throw. I didn't realize they made PTO's for those. Very cool. I am trying to source one to put behind a 300hd I6 for a project
The trans or the pto?
@@DeathTollRacing just the trans, if I remember right they made them with the BB housing and SB housing so I would need a SB housing
Ill keep watching for one here. I need another bbf one. I think there's 3 versions sbf bbf and diesel.
I like the tool joke where you can buy the special tool of a friend. Special tools might be cheaper if your friends are part fish when it comes to beer intake. I have been planning to rebuild my Nissan D21 hardbody 2.4L KA24E and 5 speed manual. It’s got 350k and it is all original and 55 mph top speed (45 mph happy speed) it is about that time. It is a family truck from my wife’s side and I daily it 3 miles round trip 6 days a week. She’s told me no V8 swap like I did in my last little truck it was a S10 with a SBC383 swap. Really like how you go in to the trans rebuild
Thanks! Those are cool little trucks. Especially with the 5 speed. Yeah, Shane is great for that because he can't drink due to health issues. So he's a really cheap one LOL. As for my trans video, I didn't want to clutter it with too much information like all the others I found. It just makes it seem harder than it really is. These are not bad to rebuild at all. But having a friend around really is nice.
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@@DeathTollRacing totally was!
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The powerstroke and idi's have the same bolt pattern as the big block Ford... Same bell housing....
I believe the gear ratio's are different between the 2. The PTO I have is specific to the gas zf6 and won't fit the diesel zf6 and vise versa is my understanding, but haven't compared the 2 to confirm.
Hello! Help me figure out the calculation of revolutions on the power take-off gear. Gearbox ZF s5-42 (5.72). In order to choose the right KOM and hydraulic pump, I need to know the number of revolutions that the power take-off gear makes. It is located on the intermediate shaft. It has 45 teeth on a gear ratio of 5.72 and 43 teeth on a gear ratio of 4.65. Do I understand correctly that it engages with the primary shaft, with that part of it on which there are 27 teeth on the gear ratio 5.72 and 29 teeth on the gear ratio 4.65? Then at 1000 revolutions of the motor it will have 600 revolutions at the gear ratio of 5.72 and 670 revolutions at the gear ratio of 4.65? or not? Thanks!
your math sounds correct. as far as I know the difference in ratio is specific for gas vs diesel zf's. I would think that you will set up your throttle up to get the proper rpm for your pump. Maybe this was the point since the gas would be at a higher rpm than the diesel. I honestly don't know for though. I've actually never added a pto to anything that didn't already have one, so I've never had to go down the path your on right now.
@@DeathTollRacing thanks 👍
Is there any difference between these and the ZF5s found in the 99-2000s Super Dutys?
There are some differences depending on the engine. But as far as how it’s assembled, I believe they should be very similar.
I had a 1994 F250HD 2wd regular cab 300-6 ZF heavy duty 5 speed and 4.10 axle ratio. Clutch slave failed and I was dealing with Lyme disease and I wasn’t feeling good enough to fix it,,, and I had to sell it 😥😥😥😥!! I’d love to find another one but with 4wd. Oh I miss that truck.
Oh yes. That is a fantastic setup. 300’s are one of my favorites and yet I don’t have one. Sorry to hear about you dealing with Lyme disease. That is something that many people don’t realize how much that can set you back.
Be nice to know if you’re able to install the input shaft seal from the outside rather than breaking the case in half to drive it from the inside. I’ve gotta do mine. Don’t feel like splitting the case if I don’t have to.
I did that a while ago, but I’m pretty sure you can get to that if you take the bearing retainer off. (The part the throw out slides on). When you assemble it you put it together from the other side, but I think it can be done from the front.
@@DeathTollRacing looks like the bearing shaft won’t come out from the outside for me to access the seal. Just dropped the transmission, and it looks like I’m going to have tear the trans apart to replace that seal.
Hopefully I didn't miss this, i watched the vid twice haha. What are you using for a speedometer in your '87? The tail housing looked like it had the provision for the speedo cable drive, but I didn't notice any drive gear on the output shaft? Was this case from a '91 later truck? I'm in the process of swapping a C6 for a ZF5 in a 2wd '88 truck. I cannot located any '90 or older cases that would have the mechanical speedo on the tail housing.
Looking at parts break downs and replacement parts the output shaft is the same number for all 2wd ZF's s542s and s547s. Do you remember anything on the shaft though looked like it could have held a speedo drive gear????
Thanks for the vid, now I have no doubts about pulling one of these open!
I'm using a gps speedometer in that truck. If you get really desperate, Dakota digital makes a gps speed sender and a cable driver to run your existing speedometer. It may be cheaper in the long run. www.dakotadigital.com
I put a cable driver part of that on another project. Heres the link to it; ua-cam.com/video/qgigtqBmwS4/v-deo.html
Hola que tipo de aceite lleva está transmisión ????
Automatic transmission fluid.
I have a zf5 and it’s stuck on one gear. I read that someone pulled off the main case and moved the shifter forks to the neutral position. Can you make a video of how to do that?
I don’t have one of these not in a truck right now. I’m trying to think why that would happen. 🤔 🤔🤔🤔. Im guessing it’s the lockout plate possibly broke, but I don’t know if that would make it stuck in gear or if it would just shift terrible
learning how to fix a truck I don't even own yet
Lol. I’ve been there!
I want a small block one
They are out there. Really good transmission for sure.
Dude! I need that PTO! LOL for my wrecker. Or at least the numbers off of it!
We moved since. I’ll try and find it.
@@DeathTollRacing Perfect, I would appreciate that very much. Thanks
@@earlwest6005 Dana 440XUEDX-W5XK. that is the pto part that adapts a pump to the transmission. The pump on mine has no visible number.
@@DeathTollRacing That's awesome! Thank you so much for following though on this. I have been looking for one for a minute now. I tried the Chelsea web site but all those specs are very confusing.
If I may ask one more question? Can you tell me the teeth count on the gear that contacts the counter shaft in the transmission. Have conflicting numbers, one is 34 and the other is 36.
They should have made a steel skeleton cage around the gear sets to alleviate the use of ra ratchet strap and add to the overall strength of the transmission!
I agree! They do make a tool for that I've heard, but unless you are doing a bunch of them, I don't think it's justifiable.
the tools are plastic and about 300.00 each... just molds that hold the gears in place stupid expensive
What do you mean my the plate should be loose and floating? Mine gets tight and then one of the shift forks don’t move.
Okay, so if your plate doesn't slide around, then someone may have put the wrong bolts in it. They should be a shoulder bolt, so the bolt tightens up on it's shoulder and not on the plate itself when you assemble it. They have a bigger shoulder than the threads. I hope that makes sense.
What would be the best solution to wash the transmission out with?
You can use a variety of methods as long as you blow it out real good afterwards. Parts washers are mineral spirits, or you can do it outside with a degreaser (engine cleaner) and a pressure washer. Once it’s degreased you can use an aluminum brightener to etch it and look like new again. Below is a link to the one I use.
www.amazon.com/dp/B01M5CNZYU/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_glt_fabc_T19N12F0RAWP1CDG9H2C?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&linkCode=ml2&tag=deathtollraci-20
Any secrets to getting the shift rods to go down into there holes mine won’t budge?
Did you remove the detent springs and balls? Watch around 2:30 or so I talk about them. They are under the little freeze plugs on top.
My housing is not on, I’m talking about the 3 shift rods in the 3 holes in the bottom or the trans where the plate is.
I can’t think of a reason that would be. Weird.
Just like number one doesn't say whether it's a standard or automatic be descriptive if you want my attention and thumbs up
How's the reception under that bridge?
I’m surprised to see a 2wd in a wrecker. They normally have a 4wd with a parking break tail housing.
Funny. Around here it's the opposite. Especially on the coastal side of the state, which is where my truck and the transmission we just rebuilt came from. Maybe it's a Canadian thing? They were both Canadian Ford plant trucks.
I didn’t see you set load tolerance with dial indicator.
I assume you’re talking about the end play between the bearings. We just assembled it with the same shims. If you’re not changing case parts, it should all go back the same. That was a really good catch on your part. When assembled there should be no noticeable end play and you shouldn’t have to squeeze it together. I think I may update this video with a new one with a more detailed one. It’s been decently popular. I want to convert that tow truck to 4x4 and will probably build a new zf for it again.
Can a 2wd zf4 trans be converted to a 4wd transmission
Short answer is yes, but the main shaft is different, and obviously the tail housing is different. If you don’t have access to a 4x4 version maybe look into a divorced np205 from a 70’s f250
@@DeathTollRacing ok thank u that’s looking like the route I will have to take hopefully I can have better luck finding the 205 divorced t case Easier than the 4x4 trans
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Guy is on speed?
That would have made it go even faster!
2 hour video
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Yeah, it’s a lot
Lots of these utube vids cleaning engines and Greesed up parts strait into the water table. Be carefull you don't get ya fine in the post after watching your video. Lol.
Great point!
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