Armored Core Lore: The Spirit Of Motherwill
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- It will have been the first real challenge for any Lynx, a giant that roamed the land and filled the sky with its missiles. The Spirit of Motherwill may have been the stepping stone for strayed, but for others it was an icon that showed the true might of corporations.
One interesting tidbit is how in the intro cutscene we can see fighter jets take off from Motherwill's hangers. Imagine the Motherwill deploying them during the Hard Mode version of the mission when Strayed gets close instead of Champion-Champs just being there for some bizarre reason.
I mean not only would that be very cool and maybe kill the frame-rate. But it would be more lore friendly and the decks or wings of Motherwill should be filled with more normals and Mts to keep in line with how much fire power this armsfort really had within it.
Like he said, it probably wasn't done in-game due to framerate issues even if it would've been amazing.
My guess is this also applies to other arms forts.
Late to the party but I agree with this. SoM was designed similarly to an aircraft carrier. It's only main weapons were the cannons which isn't an issue once you're in close range.
In the intro, WG had some trouble not because of the arms fort itself but because there's just an overwhelming amount of normals and MTs. Something we don't deal with in the game but there is enough to put some pressure on the player.
Obviously it's due to engine limitations but I'd like to imagine it's probably because of numerous attacks on the arms fort as well, whittling down their numbers and capable forces to a more manageable size
That's admittedly why I'm a tad miffed that Armored Core 6 didn't at least try to go for semi-open world. Imagine having Arms Fort enemies as field bosses for the player to gradually match up to, or serve as bases(bonfire checkpoints). There is so much intuitive gameplay to be had, unless of course the mission based system maintains steps they learned from Elden Ring.
Serene Haze: :"VOB depleted. Purging! Those cannons will rip you to shreds. Focus on evading their-"
Killdozer: *Yiaaaargh!*
What would kill me is if he somehow defies all logic and actually take down the arms fort
Ah Killdozer. Not the best AC to have chasing you around when your trying to study the arms fort, but he's a character all right.
Serene Haze: "Killdozer. An indiscriminate killing machine."
If they ever remaster it, I hope they add even more missiles. I remember playing this mission over and over, because it ended up heating my room incredibly fast during winter.
Ha ha kind cool. But well if there is a remake i hope we get more everything on armsforts.
To me it's from soft at it's finest. When they had a 1st boss that they new people would forget easily otherwise. They jammed it full of subtle character.
Armored Core has THE BEST names for anything I swear
I wonder if there were more Motherwill class Arms Forts walking around. It'd have big implications either way - either BFF didn't commit all their assets during the economic war, or they were too broke to make more than one of it. An improved version without the glaring weakness of structural damage from weapon destruction would probably be impossible for anyone but the player to destroy.
An interesting idea. As although BFF where helps back onto thier feet by GA they became the second largest company in the European region by the time of Armored Core: For Answer. So many they were holding back or maybe the heads at the time where heavy influenced by GA to not make more. Either way if there had been more motherwills i suspect a lot more next pilots would have died and that they would have been quite the force for orca to deal with.
The chanting in it's theme is German: "Wir vergeben neiman. Die welt ist uns gegeben," meaning "We forgive no one, the world is given to us."
That's a pretty easy philosophy to have when you're stomping around in a brick of guns and armor longer than Manhattan Island is wide.
Really! Well colour me pink with surprise.
This was a cool fort and a cool mission, I do kinda wish the mission was more... dynamic. I get it's explained that literally the destruction of guns and missiles would cause catastrophic damage, but I feel they could of added more steps to destroy such a behemoth just considering how big it is
An interesting thing I found out about SOM when looking at a page with size comparissons - it was indeed stated there that the height of the SOM is 600 meters, and White Glint was also depicted next to SOM, as stated there, WG height is 10 meters. However, if you stack those WGs ontop of each other, it will take 29 WGs in total to reach the top of SOM, meaning that Motherwill might be shorter than 600 meters
Oh facts. I love facts.
One of my favourite Arms Fort design from FA! It's the kind of bulky design, coupled with sensible lore bit (that it's an outdated craft built by a now defunct corporation) that made it truly memorable. In certain fashion you could say this old hog of a machine served as the stepping stone for the Strayed. Kind of intriguing, as the new White Glint (Old Anatolia's Mercenary) also solidified their reputation through the brutal dismantalling of BFF as well.
Another thing I'm still curious about: since BFF is essentially gone by the point of ACFA, which group is still operating SoM? I assume they would be former BFF combatants that's now essentially gone independent right?
Oh i like that. The same corporation being used as the way to raise our heroes status, makes you think someone had it out for them. And to answer your question BBF is still operating in acfa, as anatolia's mercenary only took out the leadership with his attack on White Lance leading to the corporation through nationalistic centripetal force to regain their once lost assets and become the second largest company in the European region. This was also helped by GA who would acquire a large portion of BFF during this time.
@@armoredcorelore I see, so I suppose I got the wrong impression. I thought BFF suffered the same fate as Ray Leonard and Akvavit, so I just assumed they crumbled after their headcourter got take out.
@@soyekinthehideaway6763 I admit so did i before i went down the rabbit hole of AC history.
Just thinking, maybe the reason why the small gun and big canon are the weak spot because the amunition rail.
Destroy the fully loaded canon -> the ammo explode and created chain reaction -> blowing up the amunition storage -> explode from inside cause the cooling to fail.
Something like this was also happen in Transformers: Fall of Cybertron that Decepticon destroy the amunition rail to blow up a canon
I follow that logic.
Honestly after facing the strider from AC6 and after seeing all these types of arms-fort, I would love to face more of these arm fort like boss in future AC games cause to me, you are basically facing against literally a walking fortress that even the top merc wouldn’t dare to destroy them until Raven or Linux did the impossible and I all for it
Me too. Hopefully AC7 will give us more armsforts.
thank you for this. i mean really, thank you.
and thank you for your support.
I feel like SOM is sort of the ideal parallel to Orbital Lasers in Scifi.
Like, if an Orbital Laser is judgement from the heavens, then SOM is the domination of the world from within the bounds of said world.
It is essentially a massive tank capable of carrying and launching its own air support while also featuring main guns that would likely be more than capable of assaulting offshore vessels from the coast.
It is and its a shame the Som we see in the game is very much watered down, the arms-fort should be filled to the brim with normals and air support. A lynx should feel like they are attacking a full stocked military base not like half of the base was on shore leave and poor fred, bob and joe where left in charge as a skeleton crew.
My only gripe is that he didn't go into more detail about the sprit class arms fort in ACVD but nevertheless I enjoy learning more about one of my treasured childhood games
I'll make a note and try to go into more detail when i get to ACVD.
The sheer numbers of troopers destroyed by White Glint before you got there is crazy. There was barely any Normals left by the time you fight it.
A resupply issue? That would be a neat idea as to why Motherwill is so empty. However i think strayed battle with motherwill would been just like White Glints, after all i don't think GA and BFF would have one of their prized War machine lacking in numbers.
@@armoredcorelore Though BFF and GA could have also seen that farther investment in Motherwill would be a loss, and what was actually needed was a full retrofit. Especially, now that its weakness was public knowledge. So, wasn't worth resupplying.
There is also some issue with we don't get a good feel of the time line. In the fight we do see that not all missile launchers are back in operation. Is that a lack of supplies or are repairs taking that long?
However, if we are being totally honest you are probably right, and the technology for having that many Normals on screen just wasn't worth it.
@@slowjamsliver7006 Oh i like this. Its these conversations that make the old ac brain tick.
Both of these are very good reasons for the lack of normals as we know there is time line conflicts within the series.
Like the sea of blood battle in AC4 where Armored Core 4 establishes that the battle between Anatolia's Mercenary and the Aldra Original Sherring in "Sea of Blood" took place shortly before the Lynx War whereas Armored Core: A New Order of "NEXT" considers it a part of the conflict.
But yes putting aside the lore hat for a second. It is very unlikely that the ps3 or xbox360 could handle that many on the screen, i know the ps3 stuttered on the mission defend the anti satellite cannons.
@@armoredcorelore Yeah, but no one likes admitting to limitations, and certainly not me.
So, my head cannon is they White Glint did a lot of work before we got there, and they for at least one of those reasons there were very few Normals active in our fight against Motherwill.
Though now that I think about it there would also have to been internal damage already. Odds are they were also short crew, and pilots from the battle with White Glint. It is possible they lost enough crew and pilots that there weren't enough trained pilots to name the Normals. Odds are that they missiles and guns were more important especially since they probably weren't only going to fight Nexts. Normals are good but if the enemy never gets to you that is even better.
*NEXT gesturing at Spirit of Motherwill*
"Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power!"
Nexts too op.
"...it is the one who fought off White Glint, it is the one that many Lynx seemed shocked when it fell, and finally it is the Arms Fort that made Strayed an elite mercenary"... and it is also the Arms Fort known by fans as the one with the "Neener-Neener Song". Can't forget that.
It’s back in armored core 6 as be 0309 strider and man, it’s huge
It is pretty cool.
I've always questioned how the hell it was only after White Glint pecked away at Mothwerwill that somehow those massive guns were noticed as a "weakness". That _thing_ is a freaking giant, with a grand majority of its mass going only to its giant legs. Uh, yeah, of course taking out *any* major part of the upper area would cause it crumble into itself. Now how again, did plinking away at some normals aboard the top decks help provide any intel not already known?
In my mind of Canonical lore, AF Cabbracan was destroyed, not Spirit.
BFF realising that to build a another Spirit Class AF of the same size would incredibly expensive, they downsize the design to just above half the Size of the OG variant and Compartmentalised the flight decks and other sections into modules to ease construction and to help with the flaw of magazine detonations.
To further decrease the chances of detonation, the weapons which used explosive propellant where swapped out with railguns (including the 2 main triple turrets on the top central section) and energy weapons (the only exception CWIS and Missiles launchers)
Bulkhead doors and more advance Ammo handling was integrated for the CWIS and Missiles.
A newer smaller reactor with better cooling, protection and power output was installed on the newer smaller variant. Mainly to cope with newer energy consuming weapons
BFF went out of its way to improve Damage control on the Spirit Class AF to make sure fires and other damage could be dealt with fast and efficiently, with better crew training and equipment.
The one seen ACVD was one of the newer smaller ones that the faction who claimed it didn’t install the safety systems which resulted in its demise.
I like it and hey if it makes you happy go with it.
Great video! I love the detail you went into how Motherwill might operate
Thank you for your kind praise.
I love this mission. Unlike with some other stuff that's been talked up in the series, like the silent avalanche in AC4, here you really feel the struggle fighting it. From trying to get close to it to the relentless missile barrages. While it is ultimately not that tough once you have the tactic and an AC set up for it, when I first got this mission I thought it was way too early.
Only thing I wish is that the hard version was set up differently. Maybe have SoM take more hits to fall apart, to let ammo be more of a factor. Could also let more troups launch at some point or come in from the outside, like if they had been called back from a mission to defend the arms fort.
Well i do like the idea of more foes on or coming in to aid the arms-forts as these war machine were not cheap so anything to keep them would have been helpful for the the corporations. Then again maybe if AC6 has arms-forts with the power of new consoles and computers we may get this.
Was kind of surprised learning Verdict day, and essentially AC 5, are connected to 4 and 'For Answer' in continuity after watching multiplayer gameplay against weapons from 'For Answer', including Spirit of Motherwill, and I learned a crashed cradle can be seen in one of Verdict Day's missions. It's kind of depressing knowing humanity just continued going downhill between 4 and 5. Yet, still kind of hopeful since they are alive and fighting to survive? Armored Core always seems to have a mixed message of doom and hope.
So many lives thrown away in the Armored Core universe... and I get to play my part in it.
It puts you in the shoes of a mass-murderer, huh? This is pretty heavy stuff.
You do, sadly in such a universe its this, be one of the many league solider killed or a life of labour and harsh rule by corporations. Harsh really.
Wynne D: AC Lore. Can you hear me? This is Wynne D Fanchon. It's time. Let your viewers know who I am. And try to keep this brief please. No sucking up. My accolades are none of your concern.
I'm not going to give any fancy speeches.
To treasure a life, is that something to laugh at?
Everything is twisted, you, this world, all of it.
For some reason i am hearing Laura Bailey inside my head.😂
I really wish they would re-release all their AC games on pc... I would buy every last one of them again, especially if that means the later games like AC5 and VD getting online support again.
It would make recording them easier too. Still maybe hope for AC6 being ported.
Guess what motherwill is coming back in fires of rubicon but its much more larger probably 16x larger
Have to see it, to believe it.
1) The sheer shock from every step it took must've been so bad that the crew would be alerted to leave the leg modules before it could move, not to mention the damage it would cause to the structure itself. Why GA chose legs ? i dunno but its quite funny.
2) The upside-down turrets must've been held in place by god almighty otherwise they would simply rip themselves from the structure, meaning it requires more steel to be able to hold them compared to the normal topside turrets, which means more weight for the launchpads, which would require more material for its attachment joint to be sturdy, which means even more weight- ok i'll stop there.
3) Why cannons for its main battery? They could've just used cruise missile or something because that is a lot of weight plus how in the world is it even reloaded THAt fast, also the maintenance when the barrels are spent does it just mail order new cannon barrels?
Motherwill looks cool tho I still love it, plus the lag it caused to my PS3 is unforgettable 😂
Honestly you make poor motherwill sound like a walking engineering nightmare, still I think there is a page on the legs of Motherwill in one of the 4 armored core book so might have to go look at that now you mention GA legs.
You forgot the fact that the Spirit-Class was mass produced. You can find their wrecks (sometimes multiple if I recall) in the background on some levels, including the final battle with J.
If I recall you have to take a different route from destroying Motherwill to get the actual canon ending, and I'm not sure if her destruction is detailed elsewhere, so it might be that she was never actually destroyed. Might just be that she was abandoned at some point, which would explain why so much of her hull is intact in Verdict Day.
Here's a fun fact: If the mission goes on for about 25 minutes, Motherwill will escape the combat zone and you will fail the mission!
Neat mind you i don't think i could wait that long.
There seems to have been plans for a sequel to FA in some way. Why would they foreshadow a stronger, more power Motherwill in the books if they were never going to use it.
What would an upgraded and newly built spirit of motherwill replacement look like?
It could probably be even larger than the original. However, in terms of the design, we have no idea.
Personally i think the supposed Motherwill in ACVD was going in the right way for upgrading it. Removing all the cannons to replace with energy weapons mean less ammo to light up. It could have become a craft focused on energy weapons and missiles but that's not really GA'S Style.
I think that they may have had some plans for a 3rd chapter but sales and popular trends forced them to scrap the idea and reboot into Armored Core V? Just a theory.
It's pretty poorly designed, but that kind of sloppy work is expected of them.
Thanks Omer, I'll keep that in mind.
Such an amazing fight. Still my favorite arms for to be honest.
Its is quite the fight and I'm sure many lynx have fallen to the mighty will of this war machine. I know i did first time playing.
I've been looking forward to this one
I hope you enjoy it.
@@armoredcorelore I did =^_^=
I look forward to more!
You can equip dual blades on a quad legs for the forward blade charge strike. Aim for the core of mother will, do it right and you instantly kill Mother will.
Have to give it a try during my free time with acfa.
I find that hilarious. Imagine the reaction of the world to Strayed just straight up killing SoMW like that, instead of the intended plan!
Ahh the Spirit of Motherwill or more commonly referred to as the "Power of America." 😂
Well Best friends forever was best pals with GA America.
Armored Core Next are so OP that this game was breeze.. even this mission was easy
Can you do a vid on legendary Mercenaries? I remember as a kid that 8 or 9 back was the greatest merc.
Are we talking as they are ranked by collard? As number 9 in arfa is White Glint which i already covered and number 8 is Wong Shao-Lung, who is on my very long and growing list of subjects to cover. Or does your question relate to another game in the series?
@@armoredcorelore i remember a Core that was “9Ball”. I think it was from Armored Core 2 I believe.
@@TheStrategist314 Oh i see now. Yes nine ball will get thier own video.
You've no idea how happy it makes me that you do ACFA. It makes me so happy... like seriously...
Thank you, it is always encouraging to hear these video are making people happy.
@@armoredcorelore you're welcome, you've earned the praise. This game means a lot to me, so seeing someone finally cover it... it makes me feel good.
Do answerer next
Is Armored Core V a sequel to For Answer?
Oh you ask the question. Currently there is evidence for both sides as well we have J, the cradles and the orca flags point to links along with others but well to be honest its never been confirmed yet. I maybe missing sometime however as i get the two fifth gen books i have translated i hope to find something of an answer.
And Souls fans say that Armored Cores lore isn't deep and rich...
Surprised people still remember this series.
It is called "Spilit of Motherwill". Fake lore channel.
0:07 that's the name right there in the game
Ha ha well dam i guess i must not have used my sound track of acfa to get the spelling of mother will correct.