I'm Done With Ford.
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- Опубліковано 3 кві 2024
- Today I talk about why I am considering selling my Ford Bronco Raptor!
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Consumer reports has listed Ford as a DO NOT BUY because their reliability has gone down so bad.
Consumer reports is not a good place to get recommendations for vehicles or electronics
@@user-zg5ch8nw8j Do you have a citation that provides evidence as to why CR is "not a good place..."?
Just to be concise Jack, after all, certain models not all Fords were listed by CR. I'm sure that's what you meant. Likewise, CR also listed the '23 Toyota Tundra as a not recommended. For those who use CR during their buying process that's great; in 45 yrs of buying I've never used CR.
@@cwqrpportable I've never used CR either, but the 3.5 in the Tundra's have issues. Not surprising that it is on the list.
Roflmao, it ford NEVER had reliability to BEGIN with.
Buy it once, buy toyota.
FORD = found on road DEAD
Ford only cares about quantity, not quality.
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That’s most car companies
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Its all companies at this point lol over priced and cheaply built
My ownership over the last 25 years has been one. A 1999 Honda Accord that is still going strong. It paid for itself many years ago and is still giving back, I love this car.
Not everyone wants to drive a tin can Zero Performance 0 personality with Antiquated Electronics. Pedestrian econo boxes are for pedestrian people.
My first vehicle was a 2002 Accord. Same gen as yours. Except for the automatic transmissions, they're bulletproof.
@@just4ivaylo92 and attention proof
@@ubeuonly bwaha
@@just4ivaylo92 Good to hear. The auto box in mine is still fine but the car has the 4cyl, not the 6 cyl. I do a drain (about 3.5 qts) and top back up every summer.
If you have never owned a BMW with a little age on it, you better BRACE FOR IMPACT when it comes to maintenance cost on that Grenadier. I love that vehicle except for the BMW turbo engine.
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the engine that's in the Grenadier is the B58, BMW's most reliable engine yet and responds to mods very well with tons of easy torque
Im currently in the buyback process with ford. My 23 f150 raptor has been plagued with issues. I’ve been extremely patient with them my truck has spent so much time in the shop just for it to come out worse than when it went in. After my 2019 gen 2 raptor I stayed away from ford until I missed a raptor enough. I wanted to move on to a superduty but after my recent experience with ford dealers , and customer service. I’m done with Ford. To your note with the issues under 10k my truck was towed into the dealer at 298 miles 🫠 12 spark plugs were replaced and the trans and part of the engine were tore down. 🤦🏻♂️
There's a reason manufacturers have warranties...happens with EVERY manufacturer
@@andybales7318 I have friends who work at Ford as service techs and the new Ecoboosts V6 have became really good no trouble platform. They at first had some problems but now they are a no issue. They work at the biggest Ford dealship in our state and one is the shop foreman and he has seen it all. He tells me the Ecoboost V6's are now doing great with no issues as of late.
@@andybales7318your right and unfortunately it’s now happen to Honda and Toyota too not as much but when these manufacturers figure it out it will get worse
@@luisvilla799 as vehicles become more high tech every year, this will continue...I've has no issues with Ford, as my 03 Ranger runs great..original transmission, engine...my 2020 Ford SUV no issues as well....many reasons for "poor" quality of vehicles, including the way people maintain & drive their vehicles...most I see daily abuse their vehicles, which is quite obvious watching people drive
@@andybales7318 yeah that year for ford Mazda was a damn good year for those small trucks Toyota too
as a long time Ford customer (4 mustangs, 4 F150's, 2 Rangers, 1 explorer sport, 1 bronco badlands, 1 F-250) i can honestly say i have had pretty good luck. i have never had engine or drive train issues on any of these vehicles, i have never had paint chip off like other brands, no major rust issues, i have had many of these for 8+ years >100,000 miles and only replaced tires. Many brands have switched interior components to cheap plastic. the only ding i will give Ford is dealer markups but they are not alone, they all are doing it. in my mind there is no vehicle worth the price of house!! I plan on retiring and downsizing to a mid size truck, i have honestly looked at the Toyota Tacoma, but they also are crazy priced. i may just go with a Ranger Raptor! lol
You're definitely the exception not the rule..
'22 Super Duty and third Ford I've owned. No issues 40,000 miles later.
2010 mustang owner, issue didn’t show up until 120k miles and I think it’s a vac leak or maybe just need to clean throttle body but yeah I’ve had 0 issues prior to that. About to get a Bronco and slightly concerned haha but I’ll just hold off on an extended warranty until I know mine is a sound build. 2024 build and it was built fast! Cutting lightning production is really helping Bronco rn.
@@Gonzo1968I’ve owned three fords and never really had any problems with all of them.
Ford all the way best hands down!
People want FUN but then complain that it's too expensive and unreliable. Then when they see a car that is built for practical transportation, it is too boring.
Ive owned two 90k plus cars from ford neither made it past 7000 miles without massive cost in repairs, No off road btw
I like my boring car ... it's paid up, it works and it only costs me an oil change now and again.
They can keep their FUN car, in the meantime I'll keep stacking dollars in my bank account and I won't have to work until I'm 80.
@@Mr_Spock512I feel that. But you have to live life. You could die tomorrow. That nest egg won’t save you. 🙃 Smell the roses!
@@DanVoels Oh! don't worry ... I've been living life, since I retired I've been travelling all over the world. I now have the time and the money to do so.
If it was about fun theyd probably opt for a manual. Its about bragging rights. Keep up or passings the Jones'
Problems can plague any vehicle at any time. Unless there is a problem with build quality, failures tend to be random. The Fords we have owned have been relatively trouble free including our current F-150 and Bronco.
The numbers don't lie. I'm a ford tech. I don't recommend to friends or family. Period
@@ubeuonly While problems can plague any vehicle truly. As of late, christ Ford has been hit or miss. My 2020 mustang EcoBoost blew up at 7,000 miles and my mom's ford explorer did the same thing at 26k.
@@ubeuonlyOwn a maverick hybrid and a 2017 explorer with the 3.5 duratec, those are both very reliable vehicles. Every brand has lemons occasionally.
But I argue your experience is negatively skewed. Because your job revolves around fixing the 1% of cars that have issues, not the 99% that don't. So it makes those issues seem more common to you.
It's kind of like how every divorce lawyer tells their friends and family marriages are guaranteed to fail, and be terrible, because it's all they see. Whereas some priests are gonna tell people marriages are wonderful, because it's all they see.
@@themidnighttavern6784 you can't deny that your Maverick has way too many recalls and is really not a truck and you also can't deny that you're explorer was one of the lowest rated sport utility vehicles in every measure from reliability to infotainment to features and benefits Period we have a joke amongst the sales and service departments that Sell dreams that turn into our nightmares. But thankfully with social media Ford will never survive because they make a subpar product that does nothing but keep me busy 70% of my day doing recalls ... none of us will recommend our products to friends and family for fear how's the repercussions. This is not a joke and I'm not a brand fanboy all I would have to do is drive and explore compared to other vehicles I know that it was not for me something you didn't do
@@ubeuonly The 2011-19 explorer is generally a reliable SUV. The 3.5 duratec is notorious for lasting 200, 300, even 400,000 miles.
I've had 3 Fords, 2 mustangs, including my current Mach 1 and a Ford Ranger. Had 210k miles on that ranger before I sold it and never had an issue with it. Clutch even lasted almost 200k miles with teaching 4 people how to drive a stick. Mustangs have been great to me so far. Considering getting a maverick next year as well. Would absolutely get a Raptor R if I could afford it, lol.
That’s one of the stupidest things I’ve heard the mavericks are dog shit
The key to long lasting vehicles is maintenance and care…granted some unfortunate things happen but with many performance oriented vehicles they become problematic because people just flog them all the time..
Back during the muscle car era it wasn’t uncommon for an engine to blow up way early …..my dad (75 years old) still has it in his head that modern vehicles are worn out at 100,000 miles ……that was the norm back then when he was in his prime.
Nah the key to longevity is buying a Toyota. There's a reason why Ford is just about to completely go out of business. Pure and utter garbage
@@Jeff-sp7bg I seriously doubt they’ll go out of business
That Bronco is a $30K vehicle loaded up with $60K of options, mostly electric or electronic. If you buy domestic stick to the base or lower trims. The only cars you can trust loaded up with everything are Toyotas
Yes! Buy a Spoyota. 🫡
Yes! I agree.
You can say this about any brand. My Ram 2500 is a pile but my F250 and Fusion have had zero issues.
I had in the last 5 years a 2010 f150, 2013 E350, 2015 Explorer (all lower mileage cars)... no issues with them (the E350 needed a new transmission at 180k miles though) . I also had a VW 2011 Passat, a VW 2008 Beetle, 2015 Q5, 2013 A4 and a 2013 Volvo C70 Convertible... a lot of issues with all of them (under 60k miles) . Our new 2023 VW Taos was already twice in the shop in the last 8 months. All car manufacturers have problems.
My next one will be either a new 2023/24 4Runner TRD Pro or a 2020 Ford Raptor with low miles. I
you had me at cam phasers. My 2018 raptor went through 2 sets by 35k miles...and the 3rd set (supposedly the "new" phaser that fixed the issue) had just started rattling when i traded it in. No more eco turds for me ever.
Had a 98 ranger that went 190k miles, an 89 ranger that went 280k miles, a 2018 Raptor that had zero issues until a distracted driver T-boned me w/ 45k miles on the truck walked away my current DD is a ‘20 Raptor & it just hit 69k miles ZERO issues & I just changed the stock brakes out
😂😂😂why would a vehicle with 45k miles have issues...people need to start expecting more from there vehicles
@@Jeremya74 it shouldn’t, and it didn’t….BUT some do! So worth mentioning that my 2018 didn’t
GX550 Overtrail. Tows 9,000#. Throw a rack on top for extra gear storage and go. Skip the roof top tent. I have one and it’s a PITA with my 15 month old. Get a tow behind overland camper trailer (single axle or dual) and send it. You have a base camp with the trailer and can take the vehicle exploring on the more difficult sections.
Hello Ben. Congratulations on the new addition to the family. What if you make videos for recommendations for what's best for Overland and Off Road? Thank you for all the time you put into reviewing all the vehicles out there.
My family has always been a ford fam. It was all my dad bought in the 70s and 80s and when I was in college in the late 90s I bought a 96 ford probe and drove that for 15 yrs and put 260k miles (I think they had a Mazda engine though). It was a great car w no problems and still drove well when I traded it in. However, that was a long time ago and I am not familiar w them now. My coworker seems to love them though as she had a mustang (which was totaled because of a crash) and she recently bought an Escape and really enjoys it. Might be the model sometimes
My advice as a former Rocky Mountain region resident who has spent over a half-century 4-wheeling there: For hardcore 4-wheeling or overlanding, buy a used 4WD that is in good condition. Then you don't feel the financial pain and worry if you scratch it or dent it. I would also stick to major manufacturers--Big Three, Toyota, Nissan. You don't want to be broken down in an exotic vehicle in the Rocky Mountain backcountry where the nearest dealer is 250 miles away, and the local parts house isn't going to stock even basic parts for it. Your Land Cruiser is probably better able to withstand the rigors of overlanding better than most any of the current crop of 4WDs. My favorite 4WD of all time was my '98 XJ Cherokee that bought used and drove for almost 20 years. I sold it when I moved a few years ago--I wished that I'd kept it, but I was offered an excellent price for it. I still have another Jeep that just turned 19 years old--still running well. Another favorite was a '73 Chevy square body 4WD pickup that was in the family for 28 years--sort of rusty, but still running well when I sold it after all those years of hard off-road and farm use.
Good, objective, first hand experience from an experienced person
I was going to purchase a late model Xj Cherokee when I sat down I felt like my belly was going to hit the steering wheel and then when I tried to move it back it was back. So I passed, I am bummed because I was so excited at the chance to buy one. I am 6'2"
Exactly what I’m doing with a 2005 v8 4Runner with just over 150k miles. Doing the timing belt and water pump and she will make it to a quarter million and beyond with no problem even as it turns 20 years old this year. A small lift, 33’s, and some armor make this thing as capable as some of the new rigs coming out, but I don’t have to worry about dinks, scratches, dents, value loss, expensive engine repairs (Toyota parts are cheap and labor is free if you have tools, time and some beer 😅)
@@voltaire372 I purchased a 2007 Lexus GX470, it has 205K miles on it, still a Mall Princess.
I have a 2021 Ranger overland build and it great. I been to Moab and done Hells Revenge with a stock Tremor and sliders. If your wife doesnt want to do any major rock crawling a Ranger will do everything you would want. It also tows a good amount plenty for an offroad squaredrop which is my future family overland rig. They have been building amazing overland builds out of Rangers in Australia for years! I cant speak on the new one but a 5th Gen Tremor is a great overland platform from Ford.
It is 2.6 miles from the dealership to my shop. By the time i got there, my first Maverick was dumping the transmission cooler fluid, with about 5 miles on it. The second one was better, but had what seems like thousands of recalls. Real or not, my perception was i better not get too far from the house. Im back in the 03, and it just works. I may just skip the new truck thing.
Why not F250? Payload, off-road, haul, safety, ect. Something that’s meant for working hard is surprisingly good off-road and the regular 6.7 diesel is chef’s kiss.
I agree with your over-landing assessment, Grenadier or GX550. Having a ‘17 Tacoma TRD Pro basically stock with only an added electronic front locker I would also look at the new Tacoma’s either TRD Pro or Trailhunter. As long as your daughter is young the rear seat should be fine. But seeing the Grenadier has front and rear lockers I would go with that Bad Boy.
agree 100% a change has to be done , i personally think the gx overtrail can be the way to go
I was down in St Augustine Fla. for the month of March. I watched people drive down the beach every day from my beach chair. The most Jeep Wranglers I've ever seen in one place, followed by Toyota Tacoma's, a lot of the Broncos too. Mixed pickups after that.
F350 Tremor 7.3l Gas, Carli lift and a 4Wheel camper and your good to go for overlanding.
My first Ford was a 2017 Mustang 3.7 V-6. It was a fun car. It made 300 ponies and would give you 32mpg on highway and 22 around town. Too bad Ford did away with that motor. I bought into the hype and traded it for a 2020 Mustang GT Kona Blue black accent. That 5.0 threw a check engine light at about 7,500 miles for something related to fuel pressure. I never liked the plastic oil pan on that car and traded it for a Charger Scat.
I own a 2017 ford mustang convertible with 3.7 love that car 300 hp and great on fuel for a sports car. Had alot of v 8 muscle cars this is my favorite
@@bradhewitt6779 In my opinion, the 3.7 was more nimble and fun to drive over the 5.0.
We have had 2 ford in our life. An 2006 F250 6.0 (2017-2021) and a 2021 Expedtion max (2021-) the expedition had more issues than the f250 did
Lol, this video is just your mental gymnastics and justification to get a Grenadier. I've done this too, totally justified it, just had some financial obligations that got in the way. Now I'm trying to talk myself into the opposite direction with a Ranger Raptor. We'll see how that goes, still have a real soft spot for the Ineos but the low cost ownership experience with the Ford is one that I keep coming back to as I'm just not sure how costly the maintenance will be with the Ineos long term.
Exactly! Happy wife, happy life.......
Ineos Grenadier has only been out for 2 years. Need to wait until 5 - 6 yeas for the "problems" to arise (no matter who manufactured it) or you could get burned.
First-time Ford owner on a '24 Everglades. Put in 3K miles so far, wind noise can get to you on a long drive, and there is not enough cargo room. I'm crossing my fingers, hoping it will hold during the warranty phase.
Every manufacturer has their duds and their gems!
I think of the Toyota Tacoma / Forerunner, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Honda Civic and the Ford F150 XLT!
You add fifty thousand dollars of buttons, wiring, chips and crap - you’re gonna have problems! Keep a vehicle simple, maintain it, enjoy driving it a long time…
I have a 2.7L Bronco Badlands and haven't had any mechanical issues so far. I picked the 2.7L because it is rated high on reliability for the Ford engine lineup, I guess time will tell though. I will note that my center console does the same thing as yours where it jiggles, but it doesn't bother me. As long as the Bronco takes me off-road to remote places and back without major issues then I'm fine.
As for suggestions, keep the LC as a Daily/Backup Go-Rig, two is one and one is none.
As for second rig choices:
Toyota Sequoia
Jeep Gladiator
Toyota 4Runner
Nissan Frontier Pro4x
Ford Ranger (I know you said no more Ford but you can get it in the 2.7L now which solves a lot of the 2.3/3.5L problems like water pumps, cam phasers, carbon build up)
My last 3 car purchases were a Civic Hybrid, an Audi A4 and now a Ford Everest I purchased in 2017. I love the Everest and have zero complaints. 2 years ago my wife draded in her Honda Odyssey for a Ford Puma and she's seems to be loving it as well. Both solid and built well.
Good luck 👍🏻🍀 Ben I’m sure that land cruiser will last a long time. I do all the work on my moms 4Runner and its been super reliable and its 19 years old.
1986 F-250 was my last one.
It was a rolling POS the day I drove it off the lot.
Not all bad I have a 2010 MKZ with 240,000 miles and no significant problems at all!
I’ve been a life long Ford guy and have had very good experiences with them all. The reliability issues that some experience with some models seems mostly to be on new designs. They seem to be coming out with so many new designs that I think they just don’t do as much R & D as they should. IMO they have so much good that I will continue to buy.
I have an '06 Mustang GT that I've owned for 15 years and had hardly any issues with. Bought a 2017 Escape which developed noisy wheel bearings over 30k miles. Wheels bearings are pretty cheap, right? >1000 bucks P&L...
All 3 F-150s I had since 2020, multiple issues, the last two (Tremor and STX) were lemons and repurchased by FORD. Have a AT4 3.0 now and so far so good.
Lol
I have an 08 Mustang that originally went about 150K miles with 10+ owners with no maintenance history, with the 4.0 and the automatic.
The only thing good at the time about it was the engine; literally everything else aside from body work was falling apart. Despite driving it for a few years as my first car, it's never broke on me when I needed it most. Threw a few grand in it to get it in good shape again, (primarily brakes, suspension, tires, etc. Transmission was already taken cared of for me.) and it's proven to be a solid car. Almost have 200K on it now, and the engine runs like new. Probably going to keep it until something catastrophic happens.
If I knew Ford had that same kind of reliability today, I'd probably buy another mustang; but a couple family members of mine both have a 2016 F150 and a 2019 Mustang, and they've been nothing but trouble once the F150 hit 100K and the new Mustang hit 50K.
As the saying goes, they aren't built like they used to.
I've jumped my Braptor multiple times and done a bit of crawling. Used most modes. Driven it at highway speeds on and off road. Zero issues whatsoever. Maybe you just have bad luck.
Current Bronco Raptor Owner (20k miles 2022) started making an unidentifiable metallic sound that is getting louder by the day. Ford is bringing a field engineer in to look at it and assist with determining where the sound originates from. Slightly concerning to say the least.
I have a F350 6.7 powerstroke just for towing. My other vehicles are Toyota and Honda. I will never buy an American made car for my daily drivers. I wish it wasn't that way.
I want to point out that he's owned a bunch of high-performance, low numbers cars. So not the typical fords. I think its important to understand that-- I have nothing for or against FoMoCo, but 'special' cars with expensive parts are likely to be less reliable. And comparing anything to a Land Cruiser--- well its going to lose. There should be no argument on which of those cars to use for overlanding-- its the land cruiser, no question. Just slow down offroad and you can still drive it 400k miles.
2013 C-Max going great! Only replaced the hatch lift supports. That was almost as easy as replacing wiper blades.
thanks ben - can i ask if anyone on here has any view on getting the hummer ev suv for driving on the beach? if there is anyone that would know i would think it is this group but cannot find much online on the topic. wondering if its weight (10k lbs!) is too much to make it a pratical choice??
All I can say is Good Luck and I hope you are honest with your evaluations of the vehicles you own in the future.
The black trim @ 7:55 sticking up on the Land Cruiser that maybe didn’t get put back on correctly after the wrap was bothering the crap out of me 😅
Getting it fixed this week
I would dump it esp since you bought the Land Cruiser and are thinking about moving. The Covid era of buying desirable trims of expensive vehicles using them for 6months-1year and flipping them for a small profit or break even is dead imo.
I’ve cycled through so many Fords too. I got a ‘23 Tremor 401 w the expectation to overland. Factory shocks are awful and need upgrading. But the ‘24 Tremor w the 5.0 and a smartcap may work although I don’t think you can option a torsen anymore on a 401 and the 402 package is so much more expensive and eats at your overlanding upgrade budget. Look fwd to seeing what you do..
Two words- “Ranger Raptor “ more payload, more towing, still very capable. Now reliability remains to be seen long term. I am concerned about that with plastic oil pans and transmission pans. I wish Ford had a better reliability record
Nice video. What about using an F150 Raptor as an overlander. Put a rooftop tent up there and have all your drawers and supplies in the bed underneath?
Just because a Land Cruiser from the past documented a lot of miles is no indication that this one will also
You hit the nail right on the head! I was looking at the new Land Cruiser due to its reputation as one of the best big SUV’s out there. Unfortunately the new Land Cruisers have turbo 4 cylinder hybrid ? Turbo is awesome for sports car but a premium off road capable big SUV needs a V8!
I've owned 3 ford vehicles so far, 2 mustang GTs and 1 F150 raptor. With both mustangs they run excellent with little to no issues. I was debating on buying one of the new '23 colorados but decided against it, mainly because their packages are so 'apple' like, concerns with resale value, and the issues they've run into with it so far. So I decided to buy a 2019 ford f150 raptor and I love it, no issues so far. I've definitely heard of the cam phaser issues but apparently the new cam phaser part number fixes it. I do agree with most of what you said though, build quality definitely could be better in certain areas.
Ben , of all vehicles you owned or reviewed , what would you consider to be your favorite?
I know for people that haven’t owned one, it seems like a nuance argument. But after just trading in my Badlands for a ZR2 1500; I completely agree. The bronco in large part is a teenager’s dream vehicle without much functional use to someone who has to pay for it.
i owned a 1993 F -150,with the 300 6 cyl fuel injection, 5 speed manul transmission, i absolutely loved that truck ,reliability was great ,few problems the whole time i had it ,it had over 300 thousand miles on it when i unfortunately sold it ,no way in hell will i buy any new truck ,i currently bought a used 2006 chevy 4X4 with a 5 .3 ,175 thousand miles, still runs beautifully
Would the 5th gen 4Runner work for your overland vehicle? Super reliable and you can get one before they're gone.
I guess it’s a trade off for what he wants-exciting and super fun to drive in the segment, which leads people away from Lexus and Toyota. Just have to factor in additional costs and maintenance for new tech, complex engineering and equipment and how that impacts reliability.
@@highoctaneadventure the gx is fun to drive though maybe the 4runner being under powered can be boring but the new gx is nice
@@octaviodominguez7772I’d still take a 4Runner over the two…it still has that timeless look and on its frame.
At just 80k miles I had to replace my 2021 Ford Rangers' transmission. Ford's estimate was $9k. Eventually fixed with local tranny mechanic for $5.8k. Needless to say extremely disappointed with Ford. I have owned 4 trucks and 8 other cars and NEVER had any issue with a transmission.
Ford has been good to me. I consider myself lucky. Mustangs and Broncos here. Every vehicr has taken me over 100,000 miles. Or maybe i maintain them well?
I totally agree with you. The new lexus Gx overtrail + is the good choice.
It's funny that Lexus is "addressing" the overland market with a $70K+ starting price rig. The GX had so much cred because it used to be a way to get an 8YO+ dirt cheap 4WD 4Runner/Land Cruiser (Prado) chassis that wasn't beat to heck.
I say that about Dodge all the time. I'm done with Dodge. I keep buying them
So, you need an overland vehicle and a BRaptor is not the 1# choice for this. I would agree. As for issues, I have had zero issues. I run a highly modified Badlands, 4' lift, mid-travel suspension, Armour all the way around and I have aftermarket charge pipes, CAI, down pipes, and exhaust. My other vehicles are also Ford, including my GT500, problem-free, Bronco Sport HEL problem-free, heck my 68 GTA Mustang. Problem-free.
All vehicles can have issues, hell my GT350 blew the engine at 2500 miles. Got the upgraded version and I had no more problems until I sold it for my GT500. To say no vehicle will have issues is a pipe dream. So good luck with whatever you decide to do, and most importantly, have fun with it.
A 4 foot lift? that's a sick monster truck!
I have had nissans for the last ten years for personal use and I have had no no problems at all, what a weird thing, because I have all American automakers for me business. 😮
My 2018 Ford rafter has 125,000 miles on it, and it’s cost me about as much to maintain as my Toyota Tacoma with 250,000 miles on it. The raptor definitely scares me, but so far it’s been well taken care of and I haven’t had many issues.
Every brand has issues only difference is the severity and frequency. I’ve owned/driven vehicles from half a dozen brands by this point and theres been issues with all of them so brand quality means nothing nowadays especially as modern vehicles are drivable laptops. I find lack of maintenance, the amount of technology in vehicles, someone YouTubing how to video to fix something and brand loyalty are the biggest contributing factors to reliability.
Landcruiser never disappoints. Mine has 350k miles and still purring like a kitten! For overlanding I'd get the new GX if I were you. It has HP and 9k tow ability.
All other things being equal Fords just tend to drive better than other brands. Reliability and built quality are issues, but Chevy and Dodge aren’t any better and Toyota isn’t perfect either.
2013 Tacoma.. dealership time for repairs is zero. 2019 f450 limited has had 75 days+ at dealer for repair
Taco is first the look I heard, heard it doesn’t pull like it should. However, I seen the manual version so I’m SOLD
Those interior pieces flexing aren't really bad, if they made them anymore rigid, they'd snap in no time.
I bought a 2023 bronco 2.7 it's been perfect so far. I park it next to my Ford fusion over 200k miles and it has never broken down. Everything thing works on the car . It's amazing
The 2.7 and 3.5 mainly have the cam phaser issue. It’s well known that it’s far FAR more rare to see on the 3.0. Not sure why but that’s literally the overall consensus everywhere and from the Ford Techs themselves.
I bought a new 2003 F150 from Ed Kenley Ford and I loved it until the ECM stopped sending spark to the #2 cylinder while I was on leave in Washington State. The ECM was replaced by a dealership there but the truck had significant engine problems since. Ed Kenley at that time had a terrible Service Department that caused me to NEVER own another Ford pos product again!
Since then, all I hear is how horrible Fords are and how they have treated their customers.
Idk our 2016 Mustangs is a pile of junk after 8 years.
Control arm knocks, sway bar end link rattles, panel gaps and bumper sag, a fuel tank leak, EVAP leak, water pump, AC compressor and condenser, and had to get the door repainted because a weld seem broke.
Complete junk.
Buying a new RAV4 as a daily for my wife and letting this thing sit.
I drive Super Duty's diesel for 25 years! I trade out at 150K miles and have never had anything fail at all. Do maintenance on them as required and that's it! I work these trucks and they perform very well. Perhaps I've been lucky. I think driver input matters as well on any brand. For you...keep the jeep sell the Bronco and enjoy!
Did you have any issues with the TRX? Rhetorical question.
Sorry Ben but all the auto makers have gone down in reliability since COVID. While all of them have raised prices that fueled inflation. Yes we had supply chain problems but after a while that became just a excuse. Ford should have slowed production and addressed the issues. Instead they made cars and trucks and parked them on race tracks and other places until they got the part. They also rushed the Bronco onto the market. I should know I experienced the new FORD customer relation program!!. I now own a Nissan Titan after trading in a 2023 F150 that was less than a year old.
I worked with Ford in the 80's and quit when the computer junk came out. Throughout the years people that I worked with they always say that its a job and the quality has drastically diminished over the years. The only good engine they produced was the 302 (5.0) and others built off that. The best bullet proof was the inline 6 300 cid that are still used today. Dont trust any brand, now that the internet is there do your own research and make your own educated decision. take care
You helped me make a decision on buying a f150 tremor. I think you should take a second look at one of those and pair it with a four wheel camper.
Your welcome 😊
Totally agree 👍 2018 F150 2.7EB, had to replace the transmission at 90k miles! (10 spd)
10-speeds shift a f*ck of a lot; why they went beyond 7 or 8 who knows....
Even Toyota recall the new 10speed AT, it's too complicated to use for heavy duty trucks......
Reliability is killing Ford. My transmission went out twice (6F35 I think). I had to put the car in the shop for 4 months each time because Ford wouldn’t approve a new one. Each time it had to be repaired. BTW the car had less than 79K miles when I got rid of it and bought a Toyota.
Interesting video as I’m am seriously considering selling my GX and getting Bronco Raptor. The center console lid on my $70k new 5 year old Gx has done that same wobbly creaking since it was 6 months old. Even Lexus build quality is less than it used to be.
You are a car guy, you will own more Fords. Trust me. Thanks for the videos.
We own 5 eco boosts with 2 near 200000 miles basically no problems.. and never had a cam phaser issue good trucks good quality you just have to take care of them like every thing else
Sorry man. I am too. 2022 Roush f150 - $90k of absolute trash. I’m really angry that I traded an awesome 6.2 Sierra Denali - It was a 2019 and didn’t have the updated interior. Huge mistake on my part.
Anything with a super charger will have a significant higher risk of failure.
At the beginning of this video you said you've had good experience with The Ford you've had first one died in 6 months and every other 1 you've had issues.How's that a good experience?I'm a little confused
I've seen a lot of gladiators turned into great overlanding vehicles. Jeep capability, has a hitch for pulling anything, and a willys will have upgrades tires, axels, skid plates etc. You can throw tents, grills, or anything else in the bed. Also 2023's still on lots have heavy discounts
200 series Land Cruiser is very reliable in its segment but it’s still pretty expensive to maintain at points. Gotta do the timing belt and water pump and idler pulley every 90k and they go through brakes. It’s not that often but it’s very expensive maintenance. Not to mention air suspension
I'll keep my 24 year old Toyota 4Runner going before I buy a new vehicle from any manufacturer....including Toyota. I still love the way that old 4Runner looks, and it keeps going and going...still cheaper to maintain it than get a new vehicle.
Is an Ineos Grenadier in your future for the overlanding? As I type this, you mention it... :)
21+ have revised phasers. The old ones have been updated to new pn but dealers have old supply and still using the old outdated ones. A good parts guy can figure this out.
At Ford Quality is job.............15 or 16. And, that's quite sad. I've bought Fords since 1986, and I've seen all those little nit-picky 1st and 2nd year problems get worse as the years go by. Like you, I'm now second guessing brand loyality. With that said, if you and your wife are looking to start overlanding there's nothing wrong with owning 3 Land Cruisers. 😀
All manufacturers pretty much use the same outside suppliers and lots of defective parts that causes millions of recalls across the board. Build quality on my Escape is a B+ and best paint job I have owned. And DON'T buy 1st year vehicles and expect perfection.
Ben is a youtuber, he loves, he hates, he buys, he sells, he has to make money.
You asked what I think? At 80 years of age; I think that you should SAVE what you are spending on vehicles of any kind. You may wish like myself that you did not WASTE so much on DEPRECIATERS. Really enjoy your reviews Ben.😎
You would not be saying this if you had kept the Shelby's!
Prove me wrong... [wink]
Stay classy my friend.
11 mustangs, six supercharged. 6 F150’s and 1 Ranger. Only had two problems ever, but since 2020 I won’t even buy one. Too many horror stories. Switched to Jeep which won’t be any better, but I trade every year so it doesn’t matter. Was looking at Toyota but the new Tacoma’s are breaking left and right. Whole automotive world has gone to hell.
The only Ford I have owned that was basically bullit proof were my Gen 1 Raptors. Everything else has been absolute JUNK.
I have 2019 Raptor, no issues ever, just annual service. Kinda seems your never happy with all the vehicles you get.
The manual transmission combined with how great the cargo area is for taking dogs makes the badlands bronco seem ideal. But I’m no stranger to how crappy fords can be! Ridiculous that they’re allowed to build such flimsy vehicles!
Remember back when "made in USA" badge was something to be proud of? Quality be damned, gotta please those almighty stockholders. People act concerned about the cheap Chinese brands coming stateside and yet they may not even be a step down compared w/ the rolling crapp sold by the domestic Big 2.3 or their toxic dealer networks.
Lazy union workers and poor ops management